[us...@httpd] Apache under DOS

2009-07-08 Thread nima chavooshi
Hi
Recently attackers use new attack for DOS apache.for example see
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6601rss .
Is there any solution for prevent this DOS attack?
what solution do you suggest for limit concurrent connection?

thanks for any help or guidance

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[us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread nima chavooshi
Hi
I want to monitor apache status (amount of requests,ram usage,amount of
apache daemons and etc)as real time, Is there any tools that justify these
needs?

thanks for any help or guidance

-- 
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[us...@httpd] apache modules

2009-07-08 Thread nima chavooshi
Hi
I have one question about Apache modules.with loading more modules on
apache, may apache responses with more delay ??

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[us...@httpd] SSI - file not included

2009-07-08 Thread Marc Patermann

Hi,

I tried a simple include with SSI.

In the root directory I added a .htaccess file with
AddType text/html .shtml
AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .html

In index-test.html i added
!--#include virtual=./footer.html --

This works fine.

Now I moved the footer.html to another directory.
!--#include virtual=./foo/footer.html --

This works fine, too.

Now I moved the file again and it stops working.
!--#include virtual=./bar/footer.html --

foo/ and bar/ are both DAV on.
foo/ is accessable without authencitation.
bar/ is basic auth protected (file and ldap).

Can the included file not be placed in an authentictaion protected 
directory or is there something else?



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RE: [us...@httpd] SSI - file not included

2009-07-08 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Marc Patermann [mailto:hans.mo...@ofd-sth.niedersachsen.de] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:07 AM
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [us...@httpd] SSI - file not included
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried a simple include with SSI.
 
 In the root directory I added a .htaccess file with
 AddType text/html .shtml
 AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .html
 
 In index-test.html i added
 !--#include virtual=./footer.html --
 
 This works fine.
 
 Now I moved the footer.html to another directory.
 !--#include virtual=./foo/footer.html --
 
 This works fine, too.
 
 Now I moved the file again and it stops working.
 !--#include virtual=./bar/footer.html --
 
 foo/ and bar/ are both DAV on.
 foo/ is accessable without authencitation.
 bar/ is basic auth protected (file and ldap).
 
 Can the included file not be placed in an authentictaion protected 
 directory ?

Apparently not... Otherwise, it would be a way to circumvent
authentication.

Check what it says in the error_log; that should tell you more than
..stops working..
If there is a 401 Unauthorized then that's the problem.

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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RE: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread Boyle Owen
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_status.html




From: nima chavooshi [mailto:nima0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:51 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring


Hi

I want to monitor apache status (amount of requests,ram
usage,amount of apache daemons and etc)as real time, Is there any tools
that justify these needs?

thanks for any help or guidance


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RE: [us...@httpd] apache modules

2009-07-08 Thread Boyle Owen
If you just load modules but don't actually use them (ie, no directives
in config), then no.



From: nima chavooshi [mailto:nima0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:59 AM
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Subject: [us...@httpd] apache modules


Hi
I have one question about Apache modules.with loading more
modules on apache, may apache responses with more delay ??

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Re: [us...@httpd] apache modules

2009-07-08 Thread André Warnier

nima chavooshi wrote:

Hi
I have one question about Apache modules.with loading more modules on
apache, may apache responses with more delay ??


Re these recent threads :
- [us...@httpd] Apache under DOS
- [us...@httpd] apache monitoring
- [us...@httpd] apache modules

It is always a good idea, indicative of the intelligent and considerate 
poster to a user's support list, to start by reading the available 
on-line documentation.

For example, at http://httpd.apache.org/, one finds links to
Documentation
  Version 2.2
which leads to a page full of information about
  Security Tips
  Authentication, Authorization, and Access Control
  Performance Tuning
  Log Files
  Modules  (see S for mod_Status)
and
  Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Reading this documentation beforehand is also a sign of respect and 
appreciation for the work of the many competent volunteers who have 
spent a lot of their time composing it and making it available.


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Re: [us...@httpd] SSI - file not included

2009-07-08 Thread Marc Patermann

Boyle Owen schrieb:

Can the included file not be placed in an authentictaion protected 
directory ?


Apparently not... Otherwise, it would be a way to circumvent
authentication.

Check what it says in the error_log; that should tell you more than
..stops working..
If there is a 401 Unauthorized then that's the problem.

I can't see any 401 errors in access or error log.
There are only unable to include ./bar/footer.html in parsed file 
/opt/www/index-test.html messages.



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RE: [us...@httpd] SSI - file not included

2009-07-08 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Marc Patermann [mailto:hans.mo...@ofd-sth.niedersachsen.de] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:47 AM
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] SSI - file not included
 
 Boyle Owen schrieb:
 
  Can the included file not be placed in an authentictaion protected 
  directory ?
  
  Apparently not... Otherwise, it would be a way to circumvent
  authentication.
  
  Check what it says in the error_log; that should tell you more than
  ..stops working..
  If there is a 401 Unauthorized then that's the problem.
 I can't see any 401 errors in access or error log.
 There are only unable to include ./bar/footer.html in parsed file 
 /opt/www/index-test.html messages.

Try removing the basic auth from bar - if it then starts working, then
that's the problem.

BTW, if that *is* the problem, then there's no solution; you won't be
able to include protected content.

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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RE: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread Tony Rice (trice)
Be sure to configure it with Extended Status on to get a wealth of info.

 

-Tony

 

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http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_status.html

 





From: nima chavooshi [mailto:nima0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:51 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

Hi

I want to monitor apache status (amount of requests,ram
usage,amount of apache daemons and etc)as real time, Is there any tools
that justify these needs?

thanks for any help or guidance



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RE: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread Morten K. Poulsen
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:57 -0400, Tony Rice (trice) wrote:
 Be sure to configure it with Extended Status on to get a wealth of
 info.

(Obvious self-promotion)

We have a free (as in speech) tool, which might help you get the
information out of mod_status if the server is unresponsive.

http://fabletech.com/ftasv

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Re: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread ricardo figueiredo
Hi,

There is a Perl program to extract information.

The program requests a page created for mod_status and write in a file

Ricardo

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Morten K. Poulsen m...@fabletech.comwrote:

 On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:57 -0400, Tony Rice (trice) wrote:
  Be sure to configure it with Extended Status on to get a wealth of
  info.

 (Obvious self-promotion)

 We have a free (as in speech) tool, which might help you get the
 information out of mod_status if the server is unresponsive.

 http://fabletech.com/ftasv

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Re: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread Morten K. Poulsen
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:12 -0300, ricardo figueiredo wrote:
 There is a Perl program to extract information.
 
 The program requests a page created for mod_status and write in a file

Yes, and it's the requests a page part which can be a problem, if the
server is not responding.

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Re: [us...@httpd] apache monitoring

2009-07-08 Thread ricardo figueiredo
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Morten K. Poulsen m...@fabletech.comwrote:

 On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:12 -0300, ricardo figueiredo wrote:
  There is a Perl program to extract information.
 
  The program requests a page created for mod_status and write in a file

 Yes, and it's the requests a page part which can be a problem, if the
 server is not responding.

It's true 

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Re: [us...@httpd] apache modules

2009-07-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Boyle Owen wrote:
 If you just load modules but don't actually use them (ie, no directives
 in config), then no.

That is not entirely true.  Most register a hook provider to evaluate if
they are the candidate for providing auth, injecting filters or handling
the request.

Those hooks do cost some cycles to evaluate and answer, even if the answer
is always 'no, not this module'.

So you are wise to remove modules that are not used.

Also, some security flaws in the past have exploited only one module
of httpd.  The users who had not loaded or enabled that module were not
affected.  So it is also a courtesy to the next administrator down the
road (or yourself) to simplify the number of modules loaded.

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[us...@httpd] Windows rotatelogs, cmd.exe permission

2009-07-08 Thread Philip J Dicke
Apache 2.2.11
Windows Server 2003 R2 x64

Hello all,
I've searched the archives and only found confirmation of what my problem is,
but no solutions.  I am trying to configure apache httpd in such a way that
logs are rotated on a daily basis, and the server is not shut down when doing
so.  Currently I am using piped output to the rotatelogs.exe process to do so. 
So far so good, right?  Not so fast...
I currently have httpd running as a windows service, logging on as a restricted
user called webserver.  That account is very restricted in the folders that
it can read/execute.  In order to follow the security policy, the webserver
account needs to be configured so that it cannot access cmd.exe.  When httpd
runs on windows and uses piped output to a log file, it creates a named piped
and launches a shell (cmd.exe) to run the executable.  FAIL!
Windows does not seem to have the apachectl graceful command that unix does. 
The only solution that I see is to run apache, where it writes straight to a
log file, write a script that shuts down httpd, moves the log file and restarts
httpd.  I'd rather not do that, as my server gets a lot of traffic during all
hours of the day.  Currently the server is not clustered.

Any solutions? (and don't say move to Linux, I wish I could).


-Phil


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Re: [us...@httpd] Windows rotatelogs, cmd.exe permission

2009-07-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Philip J Dicke wrote:
 I currently have httpd running as a windows service, logging on as a 
 restricted
 user called webserver.  That account is very restricted in the folders that
 it can read/execute.  In order to follow the security policy, the webserver
 account needs to be configured so that it cannot access cmd.exe.  When httpd
 runs on windows and uses piped output to a log file, it creates a named piped
 and launches a shell (cmd.exe) to run the executable.  FAIL!

Ok; please explain how the process initially has rights to invoke cmd.exe
and how these were subtracted after initialization?

 Windows does not seem to have the apachectl graceful command that unix 
 does. 

That's right; every service control command 128 is a graceful today, which
is what the ApacheMonitor taskbar-utility issues when you choose 'restart'.
So does httpd.exe -k restart.  But Windows OS only knows a hard restart,
stop and then restart the parent.

However the child process lives only one iteration, just as in unix.

The new feature I have worked up uses ||realpipe args if you want to
absolutely invoke realpipe without a command shell (on win or unix).  The
syntax |$pipecmd args works as today, sending the pipecmd args to the
command shell.

In 2.3 forward, realpipe will be the default.  In 2.2, pipecmd stays the
default as to not disrupt so many people.  So offering both syntaxes
should help you with an httpd.conf that will make the transition.


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Re: [us...@httpd] Windows rotatelogs, cmd.exe permission

2009-07-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Philip J Dicke wrote:
 Ok; please explain how the process initially has rights to invoke cmd.exe
 and how these were subtracted after initialization?
 Well it works now b/c the webserver user has access to the cmd.exe.  Security
 review revealed that access needs to be removed.

Ok; that's not what your post said... you implied it was restart-related :)

 syntax |$pipecmd args works as today,
 
 AWESOME!!! this is exactly the solution I was looking for!  Just tried it and
 seems to be working.  I will let you know if there any issues.

Huh?  That feature is not implemented yet.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache under DOS

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Zuckerman
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:50 PM, nima chavooshinima0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Recently attackers use new attack for DOS apache.for example see
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6601rss .
 Is there any solution for prevent this DOS attack?
 what solution do you suggest for limit concurrent connection?

 thanks for any help or guidance
 --
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This has been discussed extensively (within the last month), check the archives.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Windows rotatelogs, cmd.exe permission

2009-07-08 Thread Philip J Dicke
This sounds like the solution until the new real pipes solution is
implemented.  Thank you all.

On Wed, Jul  8, 2009 02:59 PM Sander Temme scte...@apache.org wrote:


On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Philip J Dicke wrote:

 Windows does not seem to have the apachectl graceful command that  
 unix does.
 The only solution that I see is to run apache, where it writes  
 straight to a
 log file, write a script that shuts down httpd, moves the log file  
 and restarts
 httpd.


I've had good success using the following approach:

1) move the logfiles(s) to a new name, with a timestamp or whatever
2) Send httpd.exe -n ServiceName -k graceful (wrowe tells us that  
restart and graceful are the same thing on Windows)
3) Wait a second, a minute, an hour or whatever you need to make sure  
the old httpd child has in fact gone away and has stopped writing to  
the open file descriptor of the old logfile.
4) Do what you need to do to the old logfile (compress, explode into  
vhosts, analyze, whatever, it's yours now)

The fact that httpd keeps writing to the old logfile ensures that you  
don't miss any log entries, and the graceful restart ensures  
uninterrupted service.  As wrowe says, the service interface only  
knows to kill the program under consideration entirely, and then start  
it up again.  This is obviously too harsh if you expect to keep  
serving requests, and fortunately not necessary.

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[us...@httpd] Using SetEnvIf on response headers

2009-07-08 Thread Ray Van Dolson
Hi all;

I'm trying to strip out NTLM as an authentication option from response
packets (my Apache is acting as a reverse proxy).  At first I did this
blindly with the Header command:

  Header always unset WWW-Authenticate
  Header always set WWW-Authenticate Basic realm='%{SERVER_NAME}e'
  Header onsuccess unset WWW-Authenticate

However, this has the side effect of setting WWW-Authenticate: Basic ..
on *every* response.  Ideally I'd like to only do the replacement on
response headers that contain WWW-Authenticate: NTLM.  I thought
perhaps I could do this with SetEnvIf:

  SetEnvIfNoCase WWW-Authenticate ^NTLM$ HAS_NTLM
  Header always unset WWW-Authenticate env=HAS_NTLM
  Header always set WWW-Authenticate Basic realm='%{SERVER_NAME}e' 
env=HAS_NTLM

This would work much better except that it appears SetEnfIf* only works
on request headers and not on response headers.

I came across this[1] patch from a few years back that would seem to
address this, but no indication of whether or not it was ever seriously
considered for inclusion in Apache.

Maybe there's an alternate, elegant way to do what I'm wanting?  I
realize I could probalby use an external output filter of some sort,
but that's not an ideal solution in my case (too much overhead).

Any suggestions?

Ray

[1] http://marc.info/?l=apache-httpd-devm=114839705130894w=2

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Re: [us...@httpd] Using SetEnvIf on response headers

2009-07-08 Thread André Warnier

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

Hi all;

I'm trying to strip out NTLM as an authentication option from response
packets (my Apache is acting as a reverse proxy).


By curiosity, what does this achieve ?
If the origin server requires NTLM authentication for a resource, it is 
unlikely to be happy with a Basic authentication coming back from the 
browser.


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Re: [us...@httpd] Using SetEnvIf on response headers

2009-07-08 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 03:35:58PM -0700, André Warnier wrote:
 Ray Van Dolson wrote:
  Hi all;
  
  I'm trying to strip out NTLM as an authentication option from response
  packets (my Apache is acting as a reverse proxy).
 
 By curiosity, what does this achieve ?
 If the origin server requires NTLM authentication for a resource, it is 
 unlikely to be happy with a Basic authentication coming back from the 
 browser.

The server allows both NTLM and Basic (multiple WWW-Authenticate
headers are transmitted).  The client insists on using NTLM if it's
available which doesn't work properly in a reverse proxy setup (at
least as far as I understand it).

If I remove the NTLM header, the client falls back to Basic and all
works correctly.

The client is BIS (Blackberry) so unfortunately I can't change its
behavior. :)

Ray

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RE: [us...@httpd] Reload httpd.conf on Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Vamshikrishna T
Hi,

From your query, I observed that we can reload apache configuration file
without restarting the apache web server on Linux. 
I would like to know, how can we do it?

Thanks in advance.

--Vamshi :)

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I would like to know if it is possible to reload the Apache
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Windows without restarting the Apache, like we do on UNIX/Linux version.
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