Re: [users@httpd] Re: 2 web servers in load balancing

[Alfredo De Luca]

Thanks James. Really appreciated.

I am talking to an mySQL expert now for the best options for what we want
to achieve.

Thanks again


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Dr James Smith  wrote:

>  On 17/03/2015 07:59, Alfredo De Luca wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> Any clue on this?
> On 15/03/2015 9:30 PM, "Alfredo De Luca"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> I ve never done this before so I am asking best practice/info/docs of
>> how to have 2 apache web servers in load balancing.
>>
>> - Which httpd module do I have to load in the http conf?
>>
>  Nothing unless you are using apache load balancer modules as a front end
> ... (mod_proxy_balancer)
>
>  - I was reading that I have to have a web load balancer on top of
>> them? Is it necessary? Can they accept requests from a cisco /F5 load
>>  balancer?
>>
>  I haven't played with F5 load balancers - but use the rival product
> Brocade/SteelApp/StingRay/Zeus
> traffic managers - which I think the F5s do the same thing as (just not as
> user friendly)
> so they should be able to do the job (I know we looked into it when we
> bought the ZTMs)
>
>  - What about persistent connection?
>>
>  ? HTTP is stateless - if you have poorly written backends which require
> requests to go the backend
> you should be able to use sticky sessions - but this is bad as you lose
> resilience (one of the main
> reason for load balancing backends!)
>
>  - Also we''ll have a mySQL server? Any more info about this?
>>
>  Load balancing MySQL can be trickier - easier if mainly RO connections
> (you can round robin requests
> to a large number of clones - or usually slaves to a single master) but
> harder if read/write
> - you can look at mysql cluster or master-master MySQL (galera)
>
> Read write you can use master + multiple slaves - but need to tag a
> process/session/user as
> requiring access to master if a write happens for an unspecified length of
> time!
>
>
>> Thanks in advance
>> --
>> Alfredo
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: 2 web servers in load balancing

[Dr James Smith]

On 17/03/2015 07:59, Alfredo De Luca wrote:


Hi all.
Any clue on this?

On 15/03/2015 9:30 PM, "Alfredo De Luca" > wrote:


Hi all.
I ve never done this before so I am asking best practice/info/docs of
how to have 2 apache web servers in load balancing.

- Which httpd module do I have to load in the http conf?

Nothing unless you are using apache load balancer modules as a front end 
... (mod_proxy_balancer)


- I was reading that I have to have a web load balancer on top of
them? Is it necessary? Can they accept requests from a cisco /F5 load
 balancer?

I haven't played with F5 load balancers - but use the rival product 
Brocade/SteelApp/StingRay/Zeus
traffic managers - which I think the F5s do the same thing as (just not 
as user friendly)
so they should be able to do the job (I know we looked into it when we 
bought the ZTMs)


- What about persistent connection?

? HTTP is stateless - if you have poorly written backends which require 
requests to go the backend
you should be able to use sticky sessions - but this is bad as you lose 
resilience (one of the main

reason for load balancing backends!)


- Also we''ll have a mySQL server? Any more info about this?

Load balancing MySQL can be trickier - easier if mainly RO connections 
(you can round robin requests
to a large number of clones - or usually slaves to a single master) but 
harder if read/write

- you can look at mysql cluster or master-master MySQL (galera)

Read write you can use master + multiple slaves - but need to tag a 
process/session/user as
requiring access to master if a write happens for an unspecified length 
of time!



Thanks in advance
--
Alfredo





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[users@httpd] Re: 2 web servers in load balancing

[Alfredo De Luca]

Hi all.
Any clue on this?
On 15/03/2015 9:30 PM, "Alfredo De Luca"  wrote:

> Hi all.
> I ve never done this before so I am asking best practice/info/docs of
> how to have 2 apache web servers in load balancing.
>
> - Which httpd module do I have to load in the http conf?
> - I was reading that I have to have a web load balancer on top of
> them? Is it necessary? Can they accept requests from a cisco /F5 load
>  balancer?
> - What about persistent connection?
> - Also we''ll have a mySQL server? Any more info about this?
>
> Thanks in advance
> --
> Alfredo
>