Re: [users@httpd] Debian way or standard

2016-04-01 Thread rap 



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From: Nick Kew

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Debian way or standard

On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 13:35 +0200, Yann Ylavic wrote:

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:02 PM, rap <r...@dlc.fi> wrote:
>
> The Debian style for Apache2 configuration is different from the standard
> version. Are there reasons why I shouldn't/couldn't use the standard Apache
> version from apache.org on top of Debian instead of the Debian version
> packages? I'd rather use my time to learn a general version used most often
> in mainframe computers / web hotels etc.

I guess it's as simple as replacing (possibly after saving) the
existing "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" with your own.


That would be more work than building from scratch, as you'd lose
the default config that comes bundled with any installation and
reflects the build (e.g. builtin vs loadable modules).

Debian has its own ideas about packaging.  Some people like it.
Pick one or the other and stick to it!

Advantage of the Debian's package: apt will automate upgrades for you.
Advantage of installing Apache package: you won't find yourself the
wrong side of the documentation gap:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/04/apache_packages_support_vacuum/

--
Nick Kew

Thanks Nick, yes, that article described the problem on the spot. The debian folks claim they make things easier but in fact they do 
quite the opposite when they distract folks from the source and its documentation. I found out this very soon after installing the 
Debian version and aquiring some reading. So its the standard way then. Now I only need good instructions for installation of 
standard binaries or building the whole thing from the scratch. Thanks folks. 



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Re: [users@httpd] Debian way or standard

2016-04-01 Thread Nick Kew 
On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 13:35 +0200, Yann Ylavic wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:02 PM, rap  wrote:
> >
> > The Debian style for Apache2 configuration is different from the standard
> > version. Are there reasons why I shouldn't/couldn't use the standard Apache
> > version from apache.org on top of Debian instead of the Debian version
> > packages? I'd rather use my time to learn a general version used most often
> > in mainframe computers / web hotels etc.
> 
> I guess it's as simple as replacing (possibly after saving) the
> existing "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" with your own.

That would be more work than building from scratch, as you'd lose
the default config that comes bundled with any installation and
reflects the build (e.g. builtin vs loadable modules).

Debian has its own ideas about packaging.  Some people like it.
Pick one or the other and stick to it!

Advantage of the Debian's package: apt will automate upgrades for you.
Advantage of installing Apache package: you won't find yourself the
wrong side of the documentation gap:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/04/apache_packages_support_vacuum/

-- 
Nick Kew


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Re: [users@httpd] Debian way or standard

2016-04-01 Thread Yann Ylavic 
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:02 PM, rap  wrote:
>
> The Debian style for Apache2 configuration is different from the standard
> version. Are there reasons why I shouldn't/couldn't use the standard Apache
> version from apache.org on top of Debian instead of the Debian version
> packages? I'd rather use my time to learn a general version used most often
> in mainframe computers / web hotels etc.

I guess it's as simple as replacing (possibly after saving) the
existing "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" with your own.

Regards,
Yann.

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