Re: Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science)
Hi Andy,
The instructions I always give to my students are go to 
http://jena.apache.org/download/index.cgi
Download the latest version of apache-jena-fuseki-3.17.0.zip (now this is the 
latest) unzip and so on.

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Add new dataset would not open, neither upload files.

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Thank you so much.
Regards, Neli.


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I had the same issue and just edit the shiro and config file.

Am Do., 18. März 2021 um 20:09 Uhr schrieb Andy Seaborne :

> Neli,
>
> There are several packaging of Fuseki - which one are you referring to?
>
> What does "not work" mean for you and your students?
>
>  > It open on the local host,
>
> do you get the front page?
>
>  Andy
>
> On 18/03/2021 18:02, Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science) wrote:
> > Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My
> students were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and
> it seems to not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open
> on the local host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a
> dataset, etc.
> > Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> > Regards, Neli.
> >
> > Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
> > Professor of Computer Science
> > Department of Computer Science
> > Central Connecticut State University
> > New Britain, CT 06050
> > Phone: (860) 832-2723
> > Fax: (860) 832-2712
> > Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/
> >
>


Re: Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Sentient #6
I had the same issue and just edit the shiro and config file.

Am Do., 18. März 2021 um 20:09 Uhr schrieb Andy Seaborne :

> Neli,
>
> There are several packaging of Fuseki - which one are you referring to?
>
> What does "not work" mean for you and your students?
>
>  > It open on the local host,
>
> do you get the front page?
>
>  Andy
>
> On 18/03/2021 18:02, Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science) wrote:
> > Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My
> students were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and
> it seems to not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open
> on the local host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a
> dataset, etc.
> > Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> > Regards, Neli.
> >
> > Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
> > Professor of Computer Science
> > Department of Computer Science
> > Central Connecticut State University
> > New Britain, CT 06050
> > Phone: (860) 832-2723
> > Fax: (860) 832-2712
> > Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/
> >
>


Re: Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Andy Seaborne

Neli,

There are several packaging of Fuseki - which one are you referring to?

What does "not work" mean for you and your students?

> It open on the local host,

do you get the front page?

Andy

On 18/03/2021 18:02, Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science) wrote:

Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My students 
were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and it seems to 
not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open on the local 
host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a dataset, etc.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards, Neli.

Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
Professor of Computer Science
Department of Computer Science
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain, CT 06050
Phone: (860) 832-2723
Fax: (860) 832-2712
Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/



Re: Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Marc Agate
I am using 3.17 and it works just fine. I had an issue security at first 
and fixed it according to these security settings:


https://jena.apache.org/documentation/fuseki2/fuseki-security.html

Marc

Le 18/03/2021 à 19:02, Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science) a écrit :

Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My students 
were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and it seems to 
not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open on the local 
host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a dataset, etc.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards, Neli.

Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
Professor of Computer Science
Department of Computer Science
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain, CT 06050
Phone: (860) 832-2723
Fax: (860) 832-2712
Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/



Re: Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Dave Iberson-Hurst
I mentioned a similar issue the other day. Could not get browser to talk to the 
server. I downloaded 3.16 and it worked fine. I am currently running 3.12 
without issue. Mac OSx

Dave

On 18/03/2021, 19.03, "Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science)" 
 wrote:

Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My 
students were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and it 
seems to not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open on the 
local host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a dataset, etc.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards, Neli.

Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
Professor of Computer Science
Department of Computer Science
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain, CT 06050
Phone: (860) 832-2723
Fax: (860) 832-2712
Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/



Fuseki v.17 seems not to work

2021-03-18 Thread Zlatareva, Neli (Computer Science)
Hi there, I am using Fuseki for my Linked data engineering class. My students 
were ask to download the latest version 17 (from the website) and it seems to 
not work. I tried it too -- did not work for me either. It open on the local 
host, but doesn't open any windows from there -- can't add a dataset, etc.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards, Neli.

Neli P. Zlatareva, PhD
Professor of Computer Science
Department of Computer Science
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain, CT 06050
Phone: (860) 832-2723
Fax: (860) 832-2712
Web site: cs.ccsu.edu/~neli/


Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Steve Vestal

Never mind earlier response, thanks again!

On 3/18/2021 9:40 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:

Realised I had linked the wrong version, correct link is below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/knudzewbiuqkqvy/SPARQL%20Optimisation%20101%20Tutorial.pptx?dl=0

Apologies for the confusion,

Rob

On 18/03/2021, 14:37, "Rob Vesse"  wrote:

 Steve

 Think I've shared this before on-list, I produced a slide deck a long time 
ago (2014) that covers this topic more focused on ARQ

 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixetdcfesqse893/SPARQL%20Optimization%20101.pptx?dl=0

 Some of the details have changed in the interim (e.g. new optimizations 
added, default order of optimizations changed etc) but a lot of the core 
material is still relevant

 I would also recommend Pavel's talk that Andy linked, as Andy says it 
covers the need for query authors to frame their queries appropriately but it 
also goes into more depth around some of the core low level implementation 
details of SPARQL engines e.g. join types

 Rob

 On 18/03/2021, 14:20, "Andy Seaborne"  wrote:



 On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
 > I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better
 > understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ
 > configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone
 > recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and 
language
 > definition?

 Hi Steve,

 It's a bit "it depends on the query.

 There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the
 fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching working
 efficiently applies.

 
http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov

 Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

  Andy












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Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Steve Vestal

Thanks.  I get a "That didn't work for some reason" error from dropbox.

On 3/18/2021 9:35 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:

Steve

Think I've shared this before on-list, I produced a slide deck a long time ago 
(2014) that covers this topic more focused on ARQ

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixetdcfesqse893/SPARQL%20Optimization%20101.pptx?dl=0

Some of the details have changed in the interim (e.g. new optimizations added, 
default order of optimizations changed etc) but a lot of the core material is 
still relevant

I would also recommend Pavel's talk that Andy linked, as Andy says it covers 
the need for query authors to frame their queries appropriately but it also 
goes into more depth around some of the core low level implementation details 
of SPARQL engines e.g. join types

Rob

On 18/03/2021, 14:20, "Andy Seaborne"  wrote:



 On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
 > I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better
 > understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ
 > configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone
 > recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and language
 > definition?

 Hi Steve,

 It's a bit "it depends on the query.

 There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the
 fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching working
 efficiently applies.

 http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov

 Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

  Andy








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Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Steve Vestal
Thanks.  I'm looking to get smarter in general about formulating 
queries, particularly those with non-trivial graph structure, e.g., more 
than just a shallow tree of properties rooted in one resource, maybe 
dags, maybe with cycles.  I am open to post-processing query results.  
(I do that already, generating and post-processing queries are steps in 
the overall algorithm.)


On 3/18/2021 9:19 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:



On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better 
understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ 
configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone 
recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and 
language definition?


Hi Steve,

It's a bit "it depends on the query.

There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the 
fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching 
working efficiently applies.


http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov 



Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

    Andy




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Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Rob Vesse
Realised I had linked the wrong version, correct link is below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/knudzewbiuqkqvy/SPARQL%20Optimisation%20101%20Tutorial.pptx?dl=0

Apologies for the confusion,

Rob

On 18/03/2021, 14:37, "Rob Vesse"  wrote:

Steve

Think I've shared this before on-list, I produced a slide deck a long time 
ago (2014) that covers this topic more focused on ARQ


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixetdcfesqse893/SPARQL%20Optimization%20101.pptx?dl=0

Some of the details have changed in the interim (e.g. new optimizations 
added, default order of optimizations changed etc) but a lot of the core 
material is still relevant

I would also recommend Pavel's talk that Andy linked, as Andy says it 
covers the need for query authors to frame their queries appropriately but it 
also goes into more depth around some of the core low level implementation 
details of SPARQL engines e.g. join types

Rob

On 18/03/2021, 14:20, "Andy Seaborne"  wrote:



On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
> I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better 
> understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ 
> configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone 
> recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and 
language 
> definition?

Hi Steve,

It's a bit "it depends on the query.

There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the 
fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching working 
efficiently applies.


http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov

Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

 Andy










Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Rob Vesse
Steve

Think I've shared this before on-list, I produced a slide deck a long time ago 
(2014) that covers this topic more focused on ARQ

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixetdcfesqse893/SPARQL%20Optimization%20101.pptx?dl=0

Some of the details have changed in the interim (e.g. new optimizations added, 
default order of optimizations changed etc) but a lot of the core material is 
still relevant

I would also recommend Pavel's talk that Andy linked, as Andy says it covers 
the need for query authors to frame their queries appropriately but it also 
goes into more depth around some of the core low level implementation details 
of SPARQL engines e.g. join types

Rob

On 18/03/2021, 14:20, "Andy Seaborne"  wrote:



On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
> I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better 
> understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ 
> configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone 
> recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and language 
> definition?

Hi Steve,

It's a bit "it depends on the query.

There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the 
fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching working 
efficiently applies.

http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov

Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

 Andy






Re: Suggestions for learning more about SPARQL query performance?

2021-03-18 Thread Andy Seaborne




On 17/03/2021 22:45, Steve Vestal wrote:
I'd like to dig a bit deeper into SPARQL query performance, better 
understand how different query formulations affect that, how ARQ 
configuration parameters might be used to tune that.  Can anyone 
recommend a place to start reading beyond the SPARQL book and language 
definition?


Hi Steve,

It's a bit "it depends on the query.

There was a presentation recently  and while its not about ARQ, the 
fundamental point that getting the basic graph pattern matching working 
efficiently applies.


http://www.lotico.com/index.php/SPARQL_Query_Optimization_with_Pavel_Klinov

Do you have specific queries in mind or is this a general enquiry?

Andy