Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Dong Lin]

Thanks for the KIP. LGTM as well.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Apurva Mehta  wrote:

> Thanks Ismael, this makes sense.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Guozhang Wang  wrote:
>
> > LGTM too.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Makes sense.
> > >
> > > Eno
> > >
> > > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > > >
> > > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > > there
> > > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > > concerns:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major
> version
> > > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will
> support
> > > 0.10
> > > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> > there
> > > is
> > > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> > we'll
> > > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > > enough
> > > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> > the
> > > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen
> before
> > > > June 2017.
> > > >
> > > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- Guozhang
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Apurva Mehta]

Thanks Ismael, this makes sense.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Guozhang Wang  wrote:

> LGTM too.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska 
> wrote:
>
> > Makes sense.
> >
> > Eno
> >
> > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Guozhang Wang]

LGTM too.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska 
wrote:

> Makes sense.
>
> Eno
>
> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>
>


-- 
-- Guozhang

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Eno Thereska]

Makes sense.

Eno

> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> 
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
> 
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
> 
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ismael
> 
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Roger Hoover]

This is great.  Thanks, Ismael.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Grant Henke  wrote:

> Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Henke
> Software Engineer | Cloudera
> gr...@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
>

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Grant Henke]

Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy  wrote:

> Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
>
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
>



-- 
Grant Henke
Software Engineer | Cloudera
gr...@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke

Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11

[Damian Guy]

Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.

On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
>
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
>
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
>
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>