RE: SMS roaming timestamp

2002-05-21 Thread Oded Arbel



When 
roaming, the SMS is first routed to the home SMSC of the roaming user, and then 
if apropriate is sent back to the mobile terminal of the foreign local user. I'm 
not sure if the SMSC of the foreign local user is involved in the 
process.

In the 
two local networks scenario, then its dependant on various conditions - the most 
important of them is of course the technology used in the involved networks : if 
the technologies differ, then both SMSCs are involved, in addition to any sort 
of passthrough mechanism used to transfer messages between the networks. if both 
networks use the same technology, then it's the same situation as with sending 
an SMS to a foreign network. I guess its also depends on the 
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  -Original Message-From: Calvin Boo 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:27 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SMS roaming  
  timestamp
  Appreciate anyone 
  who can help shed some enlightenment on the subject of SMS roaming and 
  timestamp.
  
  Question: 
  
  
  1. If a user 
  travelling to a foreign country has roamed to another host network, and he 
  sends an SMS from his mobile to a local terminal in the host country, where 
  does the SMS get sent to first :
  
  (a) the home SMSC 
  then routed to the host SMSC 
  (b) routed via the 
  host SMSC then fwd to home SMSC
  (c) host SMSC then 
  directly to receiving terminal
  
  2. What then is 
  the timestamp on the SMS arriving at the receiving terminal, if multiple SMSCs 
  are involved?
  
  3. In a separate 
  scenario, if two users on different networks in the same country send each 
  other a message, I guess both network SMSCs will be involved in the routing 
  process. Who affixes the timestamp on the SMS? The 
  sender SMSC or does the receiver SMSC replace the timestamp of the SMS 
  received from sender SMSC.
  
  
  Thanks a million 
  for the help.
  
  Best 
  Regards,
  
  Calvin 
  BooSingapore


RE: SMS roaming timestamp

2002-05-21 Thread Calvin Boo



Thanks 
Oded

We ran 
a simple test to test the last theory and found out that handset time is not 
involved. Looks like SMSCs are the ones fixing the 
timestamp.

Only 
thing to find out next is whether the timestamp comes from originating SMSC or 
gets written over at target SMSC. 

Cheers,
Calvin

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oded 
  ArbelSent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:53 PMTo: Calvin Boo; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: SMS roaming  
  timestamp
  When 
  roaming, the SMS is first routed to the home SMSC of the roaming user, and 
  then if apropriate is sent back to the mobile terminal of the foreign local 
  user. I'm not sure if the SMSC of the foreign local user is involved in the 
  process.
  
  In the two local networks scenario, then its dependant on various 
  conditions - the most important of them is of course the technology used in 
  the involved networks : if the technologies differ, then both SMSCs are 
  involved, in addition to any sort of passthrough mechanism used to transfer 
  messages between the networks. if both networks use the same technology, then 
  it's the same situation as with sending an SMS to a foreign network. I guess 
  its also depends on theroaming 
  agreements between the 
  operators.
  
  In any method, the time stampon 
  the SM is generated in the mobile of the user using the timestampfrom 
  the mobile terminal's internal clock. this may be set by the network itself 
  (some network technologies and mobiles can synchornise themself),but is 
  most often setby the user tothe not so correct time on her watch. 
  another interesting thing to note, is that the SM contains the time zone of 
  the time stamp, which in allhandsets that I've tested is always set to 
  GMT, no matter the location of the 
  mobile.
  
  --Oded Arbelm-Wise Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED](972)-67-340014(972)-9-9581711 
  (ext: 116)
  
  ::.."Everybody's a slave to 
  routine."-- Calvin and 
  Hobbes
  
  
-Original Message-From: Calvin Boo 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 
11:27 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SMS roaming 
 timestamp
Appreciate 
anyone who can help shed some enlightenment on the subject of SMS roaming 
and timestamp.

Question: 


1. If a user 
travelling to a foreign country has roamed to another host network, and he 
sends an SMS from his mobile to a local terminal in the host country, where 
does the SMS get sent to first :

(a) the home 
SMSC then routed to the host SMSC 
(b) routed via 
the host SMSC then fwd to home SMSC
(c) host SMSC 
then directly to receiving terminal

2. What then is 
the timestamp on the SMS arriving at the receiving terminal, if multiple 
SMSCs are involved?

3. In a separate 
scenario, if two users on different networks in the same country send each 
other a message, I guess both network SMSCs will be involved in the routing 
process. Who affixes the timestamp on the SMS? The 
sender SMSC or does the receiver SMSC replace the timestamp of the SMS 
received from sender SMSC.


Thanks a million 
for the help.

Best 
Regards,

Calvin BooSingapore