RE: hidden variable for reply

2001-10-10 Thread Ian Daly

> As far as I know, the only way you can tell that you are
> receiving a reply, is from the mobile number itself. (%s)
> I have heard that each SMS message has a unique id, but I
> don't think Kannel currently has access to it (??)

I think that there's no concept of a message id like in email, but if so
great, something to look at.

> I have thought about ( not implemented ) this sort of reply
> type system before. I can see a way, albeit has problems. If
> you where to keep track of the 'to' mobile number that your
> user send to, along with a record of their id ( say for a web
> reply ) If you then receive an SMS within a certain amount of
> time, from this number you can safely say its a reply and send it
> along to the user, via the id record ( say as a email ).

Only becomes an issue if the transaction has more than one MT and one MO
message really. The way around it I thought about before would be for the
web application to increment some counter starting at 0 to indicate number
of replies (read: inbound messages) received from a given number. But then
how do you know when another transaction has started? Maybe reset that
counter to 0. You're right, food for thought.






SV: hidden variable for reply

2001-10-10 Thread Patrik Stymne

I've heard of a solution where you add a couple of extra digits to the
end of the "from" phone number. The mobile phone uses this extra long
phone number as the "to" number when you reply to the SMS and the
operators' network and the SMSC just ignore the extra digits. Your
application can encode an id (like a magic cookie) in these extra digits
that can be used to identify an reply.

Has anyone else heard about this solution? Supposedly it does at least
work with Nokia SMSC.

/Patrik


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> Ämne: Re: hidden variable for reply
> 
> 
> Hey Ahmad
> 
> I understand where you are coming from with this hidden 
> variable idea.
> 
> As far as I know, the only way you can tell that you are 
> receiving a reply, is from the mobile number itself. (%s)
> I have heard that each SMS message has a unique id, but I
> don't think Kannel currently has access to it (??) 
> 
> I have thought about ( not implemented ) this sort of reply
> type system before. I can see a way, albeit has problems. If 
> you where to keep track of the 'to' mobile number that your
> user send to, along with a record of their id ( say for a web
> reply ) If you then receive an SMS within a certain amount of 
> time, from this number you can safely say its a reply and send it
> along to the user, via the id record ( say as a email ).
> 
> This is not an ideal solution as a few caveats exist with users
> sending SMS to the same person within that time frame. But this
> would work with a small user group. Forget about this if you 
> have large amounts of SMS traffic. Also your sms services handlers
> might be effected as a reply could contain that keyword your 
> bearer is expecting and reply with a say a weather report or the
> score for the footy. ;-)
> 
> Has anyone got this sort of reply via sms center working ?
> 
> Anyway food for thought...
> 
> -Chris B
> 
> 
> Ahmad Munif wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, is it possible to include variable / hidden variable
> > to message that sent from sms gateway to user ?, and if
> > user reply that message that variable still include.
> > and when message reply to sms gateway, sms gateway can identify
> > that variable.
> > 
> > is it possible, let me know plese ?
> > 
> > thanks.
> 
> 
> 




Re: hidden variable for reply

2001-10-09 Thread Chris Blown

Hey Ahmad

I understand where you are coming from with this hidden 
variable idea.

As far as I know, the only way you can tell that you are 
receiving a reply, is from the mobile number itself. (%s)
I have heard that each SMS message has a unique id, but I
don't think Kannel currently has access to it (??) 

I have thought about ( not implemented ) this sort of reply
type system before. I can see a way, albeit has problems. If 
you where to keep track of the 'to' mobile number that your
user send to, along with a record of their id ( say for a web
reply ) If you then receive an SMS within a certain amount of 
time, from this number you can safely say its a reply and send it
along to the user, via the id record ( say as a email ).

This is not an ideal solution as a few caveats exist with users
sending SMS to the same person within that time frame. But this
would work with a small user group. Forget about this if you 
have large amounts of SMS traffic. Also your sms services handlers
might be effected as a reply could contain that keyword your 
bearer is expecting and reply with a say a weather report or the
score for the footy. ;-)

Has anyone got this sort of reply via sms center working ?

Anyway food for thought...

-Chris B


Ahmad Munif wrote:
> 
> Hi, is it possible to include variable / hidden variable
> to message that sent from sms gateway to user ?, and if
> user reply that message that variable still include.
> and when message reply to sms gateway, sms gateway can identify
> that variable.
> 
> is it possible, let me know plese ?
> 
> thanks.




hidden variable

2001-10-09 Thread Ahmad Munif

Hi, is it possible to include variable / hidden variable
to message that sent from sms gateway to user ?, and if
user reply that message that variable still include.
and when message reply to sms gateway, sms gateway can identify
that variable.

is it possible, let me know plese ?


thanks.