RE: "Vote-by-SMS a la "Idol"

[Spyros Sakellariou]

Hi Ryan,

 

It really depends how much traffic you expect to handle.  If you expect
small traffic (i.e. less than 1 SMS per sec) you can just attach a mobile
phone (via serial or USB cable) to the machine running kannel and have your
responders send their messages to the mobile phone's number.  If you expect
more traffic then you should contact a mobile operator and ask them for a
connection to their SMSC (Short Message Service Center) or their SMSC
Gateway.  Usually this is done over the SMPP protocol which is a TCP/IP
protocol. However note that unless the operator has some kind of
sophisticated SMSC or SMSC Router only mobile subscribers of that company
will be able to send their votes, so you will need to make agreements with
all major mobile companies to allow everybody to vote.  In contrast if you
use the phone connection solution any one can send you an SMS to that phone
number.  

 

If you want to increase your traffic using the phone serial/USB connection
solution you can attach more than one phone to your kannel machine and have
your voters send a blank SMS to a different phone depending on how many
different choices they have.

 

In terms of hardware unless you are looking for a lot of traffic a good PC
running linux is more than enough. 

 

 

There are also some other companies that act as SMS Gateways like Clickatell
(www.clickatell.com  ) so you could connect to
them over internet, but I 've never used them so I don't know any details of
how they work.

 

Cheers,

 

Spyros 

  _  

From: Ryan Prior [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:08 AM
To: Azaman Suleiman
Cc: users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: "Vote-by-SMS a la "Idol"

 

Many thanks to all of you for your responses. I am glad that I found Kannel,
and the link to playsms looks very promising as well.
I understand that I'll need to use Kannel to connect to the world of SMS,
and that Kannel can interface with a program such as playsms in order to
build the sort of application that I want. 

What I still don't understand is what exactly I need on the hardware side. I
know that I will need a webserver, but is an internet connection all that I
need to send SMS messages? If not, what additional hardware do I need? Do I
need to pay a telephone company for service? If so, what services? 

Those may seem like basic questions, but being new to the world of telephone
technology, I don't really understand exactly how the gateways and
crossovers work. Again, thanks so much for your help and patience. 

Sincerely,
Ryan

On 10/31/07, Azaman Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yuppz kannel can do that. You can use playsms together with kannel to
do the voting which playsms provided (poll). I have used playsms and
tweak abit for some other application which is not a straight simple
voting. the link   http://playsms.sourceforge.net/
hope that helps.


On 10/31/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm involved in the technology planning of a Battle of the Bands event. We

> are interested in monetizing the event by letting people vote for their
> favourite band via text message and charging a small fee. Is Kannel an
> appropriate technology to allow our server to accept text messages and 
> process them? Has anyone else deployed a similar application? What sort of
> hardware do I need to enable such a setup?
> I'm a relative newbie in this area and don't really know where to begin
from 
> a technology standpoint, so if anybody has any experience that might be
> relevant, please do chip in. :-)
>
> Thanks much,
> Ryan
> Student at the University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire 
>


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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Re: mobile number validation @ kannel.org?

[Steve Kennedy]

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:59:01PM +1100, Iain Dooley wrote:

> hi all, i just had a thought: perhaps we could put the class file and list 
> on the kannel website?
> stipe, what do you think? it is, after all, a very SMS related issue. i 
> think that the only way to really make this worthwhile is for the list to 
> be collaboratively maintained by members all over the world. perhaps we 
> could have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list?

In the UK all mobiles start with 07, however personal numbers also start
070 - but they are being moved out of the 07 range next year I think.


Steve

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RE: international mobile numbering

[Cezary Siwek]

 

Hi All,

I have generated mobile numbering for Poland.
Unfortunately, the list is so long due to completely irregular polish
numbering plan.

The source information comes from Polish Office of Electronic Communications

MNOs:
http://www.bip.uke.gov.pl/_gAllery/48/48/4848.xls

MVNOs:
http://www.bip.uke.gov.pl/_gAllery/48/45/4845.xls


Regards

Cezary Siwek

48,601,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,603,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,605,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,607,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,609,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,691,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,693,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,695,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,697,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,661,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,663,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,665,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,667,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,669,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,721,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,722,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,723,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,725,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,726,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,781,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,782,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,783,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,785,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,885,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,887,6 #Polkomtel (PLUS GSM)
48,600,6 #PTC ERA
48,602,6 #PTC ERA
48,604,6 #PTC ERA
48,606,6 #PTC ERA
48,608,6 #PTC ERA
48,692,6 #PTC ERA
48,694,6 #PTC ERA
48,696,6 #PTC ERA
48,698,6 #PTC ERA
48,660,6 #PTC ERA
48,662,6 #PTC ERA
48,664,6 #PTC ERA
48,6661,5 #PTC ERA
48,6662,5 #PTC ERA
48,6663,5 #PTC ERA
48,6664,5 #PTC ERA
48,6660,5 #PTC ERA
48,668,6 #PTC ERA
48,7283,5 #PTC ERA
48,784,6 #PTC ERA
48,787,6 #PTC ERA
48,788,6 #PTC ERA
48,8811,5 #PTC ERA
48,8818,5 #PTC ERA
48,882,6 #PTC ERA
48,8833,5 #PTC ERA
48,8838,5 #PTC ERA
48,8841,5 #PTC ERA
48,8842,5 #PTC ERA
48,8844,5 #PTC ERA
48,,5 #PTC ERA
48,886,6 #PTC ERA
48,888,6 #PTC ERA
48,889,6 #PTC ERA
48,880,6 #PTC ERA
48,501,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,502,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,503,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,504,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,505,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,506,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,507,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,508,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,509,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,500,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,510,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,511,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,512,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,513,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,514,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,515,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,516,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,517,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,518,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,519,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,789,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,7865,5 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,7866,5 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,7867,5 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,7868,5 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,7869,5 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,780,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,795,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,797,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,798,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,799,6 #PTK CENTERTEL (Orange PL)
48,690,6 #PTK Centertel (NMT450)
48,,5 #Telekomunikacja Kolejowa
48,791,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,792,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,793,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,793,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,796,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,790,6 #P4 Netia Mobile  (Play Mobile)
48,7861,5 #NMI Telecom
48,7862,5 #NMI Telecom
48,7863,5 #NMI Telecom
48,7864,5 #NMI Telecom
48,7860,5 #NMI Telecom
48,7271,5 #NORDISK
48,6665,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,6667,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,6668,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,6669,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,724,6 #reserved - future GSM
48,720,6 #reserved - future GSM
48,7272,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7273,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7274,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7275,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7276,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7277,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7278,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7279,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7270,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7281,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7282,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7284,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7285,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7286,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7287,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7288,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7289,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,7280,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8812,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8813,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8814,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8815,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8816,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8817,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8831,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8832,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8834,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8835,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8836,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8837,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8839,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8830,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8843,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8845,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8846,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8847,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8849,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,8840,5 #reserved - future GSM
48,699,6 #MVNOs
48,729,6 #MVNOs

Re: international mobile numbering

[Rony Ron]

hello,
for SENEGAL its no more:

221,51,5
221,53,5
221,54,5
221,55,5
221,56,5
221,57,5
221,58,5
221,59,5
221,63,5
221,64,5
221,65,5
221,66,5
221,67,5
221,68,5
221,69,5

But now it's:
221,77,7
221,76,7

regards,

On 11/1/07, Iain Dooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> firstly thank you so much to Alejandro Guerrieri, Bernd Mielke and Hanna
> Kreitem for their latest conributions to the mobile number validation
> list.
>
> your changes are now live on:
>
> http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_numbering.txt
>
> Bernd, if you look at Germany there are a couple of questions for you
> there.
>
> if anyone hasn't yet, it would be great if you could look at your own
> country in that list and give me the correct format like:
>
> COUNTRY CODE,AREA CODE,NUM DIGITS
>
> i think it's best if we keep it more general, as in "close enough is good
> enough". for example, for the Australian number format i just have:
>
> 61,4,8
>
> the fact that 0499 123 456 may not be a valid number (yet!) isn't really a
> concern, but i can detect if someone:
>
> 1) types in 0405 xxx xxx i can put it into 61 405 xxx xxx without them
> needing to type in international format, because i know they live in
> australia
>
> 2) types 0405 xxx xx or 0405 xxx  because the numbers are the wrong
> length.
>
> or if someone tried to send a message to a 1999 xxx xxx premium SMS number
> or a landline (hey, people do strange things) then it wouldn't validate.
>
> so keeping this in mind it would be great if everyone could please take a
> look at their country and send me the required format.
>
> cheers
>
> iain
>
>


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Re: international mobile numbering

[nextime]

> if anyone hasn't yet, it would be great if you could look at your own 
> country in that list and give me the correct format like:
> 

As usual, in Italy we have a very confusing system for assing numbers...

Anyway, we have a complete list of numbering plan here:

http://www.comunicazioni.it/binary/min_comunicazioni/tel_fissa_risorse/Assegnati.xls

The first tab of this excell file is the mobile number plan, the second
is for VoIP, and so on.

For mobile, all prefixes start with the number "3" and is lenght is of 3
numbers.

We have all telephony numbers except that those for "special or premium"
services with a total of 9/10 numbers lenght, so, the extension after
prefix can be 6 or 7 long.

For example we have for a "TIM" ( telecom italia mobile ) mobile number:

338 XXX and/or 338 XX

They are both valid.

We need also to care about that landline numbers start with 0, 
so, 331 XXX is a mobile number, 331 XX is also a mobile one, 
but 0331 XX is a landline one.


Also, on some PBX with a "class" of number assigned one can respond with
a more shorter number, so, 0331  is a valid landline number. This
can off course be confusing excpecially when you get the CLI on a ISDN
link where you lose the first 0 for landline CLI, so, if you get from
ISDN a number like 331 XX you can't say for sure if it is landline
0331 or mobile 331, as it can be both true regarding on how numbers are
assigned and get from isdn.

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How to validate destination number length ??

[shehan]

Hi All,
In my project kannel act as ESME client & it is bound to SMPP server. I
want to send sms, those desination number length is 11, through this
connection only. Other lengths should be discarding. How to that in
kannel ??
BR,
Shehan

Re: Small SMS auto-responder project

[Nathan Ferris]

Hi Tracy,

Kannel can certainly help accomplish what you want, but you will have to
set up a some other stuff as well.  The messages that you use Kannel to
send and receive will either have to go through an aggregator or a
modem.  A modem is pretty easy to set up, but has limited message
transmission speed.  If you're expecting a lot of traffic then this may
cause problems for you.  My own application uses Multitech GSM modems in
the USA and we can generally send/receive 12-20 SMS messages per minute
per modem.  An aggregator will be able to handle much higher load, but
they are more expensive and can take some time to get set up.

There are a few online services that may get you up and running more
quickly.  Try Reactee (http://reactee.com/ also see
http://www.textmarks.com), Mobivity (http://www.mobilemarketing.net/),
and Zong (http://www.zong.com/)

Nathan

Tracy R Reed wrote:
> I'm not sure if kannel can help me out here or not since I am new to
> dealing with SMS technology. Here is what we want to do: We are going to
> put up some billboards asking potential clients to text message to a
> certain number and then we will send them a canned reply. That's it.
> Pretty simple. I need an SMS gateway provider and a way to get the
> number. Can anyone recommend one? We are located in San Diego if it
> matters. And will kannel be required to talk to this gateway provider
> or is kannel to be used on a box with its own SS7 link for actually
> sending the messages? This is the part I am most unclear on.
>
>

Re: mobile number validation class

[seik]

Hi Ian,

update for Bulgaria

one more mobile operator to be included, so for Bulgaria the record will be

Bulgaria
359,898,6
359,899,6
359,897,6



-Original Message-
From: Iain Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 Ноември 2007 г.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:mobile number validation class 

> hi all,

> i've written a class in PHP which uses the list at:

> http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_numbering.txt

> to validate a number. there are notes and typical usage up the top of the 
> class file here:

> http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_validation.class.php.txt

> if anyone ports it to other languages feel free to send them through and 
> i'd be happy to host it on my server.

> cheers

> iain

numbering updated

[Iain Dooley]

hi all,

big thanks to everyone for sending in there validation formats! ismail, 
Mihai, Colm, Paul, Rony, Franco and seik, your changes have all been 
included.


i've written back to a couple of others offlist to try and clarify the 
formats a little better.


HUGE thanks to Cezary Siwek for his monster effort on the Polish 
formats... what a list!!


i also got an update from my friend Dietmar in Austria. feel free to 
forward the link and my contact detals onto friends you have in other 
countries that may be interested in contributing.


i'd also love to hear if anyone puts the PHP5 class to use so feel free to 
mail me offlist (especially if you have any problems!)


cheers

iain

Re: mobile number validation class

[Iain Dooley]

Great! thanks, updated the file and incremented the serial number.

thanks for contributing!

iain

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Shantanu Chauhan wrote:


Updated for India.

Regards
Shantanu Chauhan

- Original Message - From: "Trung Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: mobile number validation class



Hi Iain,

Updated list of Vietnam mob numbers.

Cheers,
Charlie

-
Nguyen Hoang Trung
SV Media JSC.
Tel: +84 4 6648306
Fax: +84 4 6648307
H/P: +84 98 3655724
Unit 805, 04 Da Tuong Str.,
Hanoi, Vietnam
www.funlive.vn



-Original Message-
From: Iain Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:58 AM
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: mobile number validation class

hi all,

i've written a class in PHP which uses the list at:

http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_numbering.txt

to validate a number. there are notes and typical usage up the top of the
class file here:

http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_validation.class.php.txt

if anyone ports it to other languages feel free to send them through and 
i'd

be happy to host it on my server.

cheers

iain

Re: mobile number validation class

[Shantanu Chauhan]

Updated for India.

Regards
Shantanu Chauhan

- Original Message - 
From: "Trung Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: mobile number validation class



Hi Iain,

Updated list of Vietnam mob numbers.

Cheers,
Charlie

-
Nguyen Hoang Trung
SV Media JSC.
Tel: +84 4 6648306
Fax: +84 4 6648307
H/P: +84 98 3655724
Unit 805, 04 Da Tuong Str.,
Hanoi, Vietnam
www.funlive.vn



-Original Message-
From: Iain Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:58 AM
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: mobile number validation class

hi all,

i've written a class in PHP which uses the list at:

http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_numbering.txt

to validate a number. there are notes and typical usage up the top of the
class file here:

http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/mobile_validation.class.php.txt

if anyone ports it to other languages feel free to send them through and 
i'd

be happy to host it on my server.

cheers

iain



##
# Parseable List of Internation Mobile Number Formats
# Author: Iain Dooley, Working Software 
# http://www.workingsoftware.com.au

#
# The format of the file is:
#
# - text following # is to be treated as blank space
# - an empty line precedes a country name
# - a country name is followed by any number of lines with comma separated 
formats
# 
# Each format line following a country name has the following fields:

#
# - The first field is the country code. For american territories, a country 
code
#   of +1 xxx is compressed to a single country code 1xxx
#
# - The second field is the allowed mobile prefix
#
# - The third field is the number of digits to expect after the mobile prefix
#
# - A value of 0 represents 'unknown', for example:
#
#   54,76,0
#
#   means a country code of 54, with a mobile prefix of 76 and an unknown number
#   of digits following the prefix. or:
#   
#   54,0,0
#   
#   represents a country code of 54 with unknown mobile prefixes and an unknown

#   number of digits after the prefix
# 
# I want to keep the format reasonably general so that we don't have to update it so 
# frequently. For example, in Australia, 61,4,8 is good enough. We don't need to know 
# that allowable prefixes are 0405,0424,0413 etc.

# NOTES:
# 
# I compiled this list using the following two websites:

#
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_mobile_phone_codes
# http://www.wtng.info/wtng-263-zw.html
#
# i considered the WTNG to be the more definitive source of data. Where I could
# find no data on the WTNG site, but could find dial prefixes on Wikipedia, I
# included the country code with uknown (0) values for the prefix and number of
# digits after the prefix.
# 
# Where I could find no data on either WTNG or Wikipedia, the country has been

# ommitted from the list.
#
# Please feel free to contact me using the form at my website:
#
# http://www.workingsoftware.com.au/?h=Contact
#
# with updates. I would like to collaboratively develop the definitive list! I 
# will make any changes manually and include a revision list within these inital

# comments.
#
# I will also be making public a class for validating an international mobile
# number using this file format in PHP and be putting a link to it in this file.
# If anyone would like to contribute parsing classes/code in other languages 
they
# are welcome to email me the link and I will include it here.
# 
# REVISION HISTORY

#
# 21/9/2007 Dimitris Evmorfopoulos: updated Greek mobile number plan
# 21/9/2007 Bernd:  updated German mobile number plan
# 1/11/2007 Roland Guthauser:   updated Leichtenstein number plan
# 1/11/2007 Alejandro Guerrieri:updated Uruguary and Argentina number plan
# 1/11/2007 Hanna Kreitem:  updated Palestine and Israel
# 1/11/2007 Iain  Dooley:   updated Austrian numbering plan
#   (from 
http://www.rtr.at/en/tk/E129/Austrian%20Numbering%20Plan%202004-05-12.pdf)
##

Afghanistan
93,70,6 #mobile - AWCC (6-digit subscriber numbers)
93,71,7 #reserved: future GSM mobile service as of 9/2007
93,72,7 #reserved: future GSM mobile service as of 9/2007
93,75,7 #mobile - CDMA / WLL (wireless-based local)
93,79,6 #mobile - Roshan (6-digit subscriber numbers)

Albania
355,68,7 #AMC
355,69,7 #Vodafone
#NB: found one source that said mobile is 38 in albania 
(http://www.wtng.info/ccod-35.html#CC355), but wikipedia said 6x 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_mobile_phone_codes) and ABCOMM 
(http://www.abcom-al.com/english/Numeric%20Code.htm) said 68 and 69. I took 
ABCOMM as correct.

Algeria
213,61,6 #NMT and GSM mobile numbers

Andorra
376,3,5 #GSM as of 1998
376,6,5 #assigned March 2003
#NB: There was also this: "Mobile 4x voice mail as of 1998" which I chose 
to ignore as invalid

Angola
244,912,6