Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread s
On 01/15/2010 08:55 AM, Armelius Cameron wrote:
> On Thursday 14 January 2010 21:44:54 Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:11:51 -0700
>>
>> r...@dwf.com wrote:
>>  
>>> What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
>>>
>> Absolutely nothing: That's why I always remove the "rhgb"
>> option from the kernel boot lines in grub.conf :-).
>>  
> I am tempted to do that too. I wish we had something similar with the old
> version (like F8, IIRC)  where you have graphical environment but can also
> display the texts to show what's going on inside a container. Is that not an
> option with Plymouth ?
> Now it seems the choices are pretty graphic, or text only.
>
> AC
>
Using the plymouth details theme will display the boot text.

# plymouth-set-default-theme --list

will list the installed themes

# plymouth-set-default-theme  --rebuild-initrd

to change the theme used

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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Armelius Cameron  wrote:
> On Thursday 14 January 2010 21:44:54 Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:11:51 -0700
>>
>> r...@dwf.com wrote:
>> > What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
>>
>> Absolutely nothing: That's why I always remove the "rhgb"
>> option from the kernel boot lines in grub.conf :-).
>
> I am tempted to do that too. I wish we had something similar with the old
> version (like F8, IIRC)  where you have graphical environment but can also
> display the texts to show what's going on inside a container. Is that not an
> option with Plymouth ?
> Now it seems the choices are pretty graphic, or text only.
>
> AC
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Me too,

CentOS/RHEL still has RHGB.

IHM, The best Plymouth theme was F10 solar.

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Re: Mouse locks up or disappears in FC12 Fresh install

2010-01-17 Thread David Timms
On 17/01/10 09:40, Jim wrote:
> FC12 x86_64/KDE
>
> Mouse freezes or disappear after waking up from Power Management.
I'm not sure if you mean after waking from suspend, or from hibernation ?

> After computer has set for hours.
Is that stayed the same way for hours, or slept for hours ?

Is it a USB or PS/2 mouse ?
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Re: loadavg - system performance

2010-01-17 Thread David Timms
On 17/01/10 13:09, Aldo Foot wrote:
> So, you run 'top' and similar commands to display the load average on
> your system.
> And you find that is showing a 2 and you have only one CPU.
>
> What's your expertise dealing with high CPU demand? tweaks? kernel tricks?
> When do the numbers begin to be meaningful to you? under what circumstances?
You can sort top by processtime (>), then it might highlight a 
particular bad performer.
Try also iotop, incase it higlights a particular app that is always 
writing to disk.

If you have an ageing processor, performing in cpu audio mixing via 
pulseaudio, can consume eg 30-40% cpu with 1 stream, more if you have 
two audio streams at once. It's something to think about.

The second one is non-accelerated video drivers, if you are doing any 3d 
work/effects etc.

For me, if you are browsing the web you migt use flask block/adblock to 
disable loading from certain sites. Some sites are unbelievable - 
multiple flash applets all appealing for attention...

Maybe you could start  runlevel 2 or 3 and see if there is much difference.

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Re: intermittent audio

2010-01-17 Thread David Timms
On 17/01/10 13:21, charles zeitler wrote:
> can someone recommend some steps i can take to narrow
> this down?
Not without you giving some hints as to:
- hardware (eg a smolt public link)
- os
- updatedness.
- application you are trying with
- if run a terminal with tail -f /var/log/messages,
- whether something is indicated when your audio stops/hickups.
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Re: 36 or 64 bit?

2010-01-17 Thread Jean Francois Martinez
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 11:59 +, Andy Blanchard wrote:
> 2010/1/16 Jean Francois Martinez :
> > No it isn't.  In 32 bits mode the processor only has a paltry eight
> > registers and in addition it is limited to a brain damaged stack model
> > for floating point.  In 64 bits  it has sixteen registers and possibly,
> > not sure about it, a healthier floating point model.
> 
> Which is why I wrote: "There are some advantages..."
> 
> > So out of curiosity I converted flac to ogg in both modes and it is 30%
> > faster in 64 bits
> 
> Well, it would be.  That would come under the part about "manipulating
> large chunks of data that can be processed 64 bits at a time instead
> of 32."
> 

I fail to understand how manipulating 16 bit values can benefit of 
64 bits instead of 32.  I still think it is the 16 registers and thus
far less restrictive than "large chunks of data processed 64 bits at a
time"

> But all that is beside the point.  The original query was about
> drivers that were clearly broken in the 64bit version but potentially
> OK in the 32bit version and not whether 64bit was better than 32bit.
> That's why I suggested using the 32bit version as a workaround,
> ideally using a Live CD before re-installating in case it was broken
> as well, and wait for the bugs to be squished.

Ok, but later you told that 64 bits brought nothing for people who had
less than 4Gs of RAM

JF Martinez

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Re: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller

2010-01-17 Thread David Timms
On 17/01/10 15:29, Jamie Bohr wrote:
> 02:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+
> Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
> 02:06.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus
> Controller
> 02:06.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus
> Controller
> 02:06.2 System peripheral: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus
> Accelerator
Did you see if any one has placed info on the device in:
- smolt.org (by looking at your public info), then clicking on your 
device - you get shown a wiki page.
- http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
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Re: how to use koji

2010-01-17 Thread Michal

Patrick and Christoph,
thank You for the help
best regards,
Michal
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Re: Smolt client for Ubuntu

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 11:47 +0530, Jay_Linux wrote:
> Is there a Smolts package available for Debian/Ubuntu ?

You'd probably have better luck on an Ubuntu list. Not to belabour the
obvious, but this list is for Fedora users.

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Re: 36 or 64 bit?

2010-01-17 Thread Andy Blanchard
2010/1/17 Jean Francois Martinez :
> I fail to understand how manipulating 16 bit values can benefit of
> 64 bits instead of 32.  I still think it is the 16 registers and thus
> far less restrictive than "large chunks of data processed 64 bits at a
> time"

Depends on the operation at hand.  If you need to do an XOR across a
block of data then if you can do that in 64bit chunks instead of 32bit
chucks, or even 16bit ones, then 64bit will win hands down.  Also,
many 64bit CPUs also have the capability to load four 16bit or two
32bit values into a 64bit register, then perform an operation on each
value in one step.  Again, a clear advantage for 64bit.

>> But all that is beside the point.  The original query was about
>> drivers that were clearly broken in the 64bit version but potentially
>> OK in the 32bit version and not whether 64bit was better than 32bit.
>> That's why I suggested using the 32bit version as a workaround,
>> ideally using a Live CD before re-installating in case it was broken
>> as well, and wait for the bugs to be squished.
>
> Ok, but later you told that 64 bits brought nothing for people who had
> less than 4Gs of RAM

No, I said that 64bit offered advantages if you have more than 2GB or
RAM, although Alan set the bar much lower - at 960MB or so.  That's
not the same thing as saying that 64bit doesn't offer any advantages
if you have less than 2GB.

Again, for the record, I'm with Alan on this - you should generally
choose 64bit over 32bit every time - but I'd also add the the
following 3 exceptions:
   Your hardware doesn't support it (32bit CPU)
   Your main applications run faster in 32bit mode (per Jerry's post)
   The 64bit version has known issues (like Enrico's drivers)

My original recommendation to Enrico was that if moving to 32bit
sorted out his 64bit driver woes, then he should do that and wait for
the 64bit versions to be fixed.  Unless Enrico has the skill and time
to fire up a debugger and fix the problem himself, then it's better to
be productive in 32bit mode than suffer problems in 64bit mode.

If you look at my original post on this thread, the second paragraph
that seems to resulted in us going off on a tangent is aimed at the
case of a *general purpose PC* - ie. something that spends a lot of
its time idling and waiting for the user to input data, and even then
I said "most of the time".   I specifically excluded situations
involving addressing large amounts of memory (>2GB) or spending a lot
of time processing the kinds of data that see the biggest gains from
64bit from that.

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Re: Installation problem of FC11

2010-01-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Edward S.P. Leong wrote:

> When I install the FC11 with a new machine by using
> "Install or upgrade an existing system"
> or
> "Install system with basic video driver"
> mode...
> Point 1, I can't config the network config ( IP Address ), due to the
> error of network manager...
> Point 2, I can't enter into the text mode to do the installation steps...
> So, would you mind to help ( idea / suggestion ) more ?

It is not really clear what you are doing,
but I would suggest trying a Live CD (I use the KDE Live CD).
If this runs it has a button to install on the hard disk.

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Re: Usb_modeswitch

2010-01-17 Thread Antonio M
2010/1/15 antonio montagnani :
> Robert G. (Doc) Savage ha scritto / said the following    il giorno/on
> 15/01/2010 17:24:
>> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 09:57 +0100, Antonio M wrote:
>>> I have usb_modeswitch-1.0.5-1.fc12.i686 installed, but I see that
>>> 1.0.7 is available on usb_modeswitch website.
>>> How can I submit the request for un update???
>>
>> The 1.0.5 version is still the latest in the FC12 and Rawhide
>> repositories. I note that it is in the Everything section rather than
>> the basic Fedora section. That may mean it is not as actively tracked
>> and maintained as packages in the main Fedora section.
>>
>> If you need a fix or functionality available in a 1.0.7 version now, you
>> can download it from their web site and install it. Otherwise you can
>> submit an update request to Bugzilla and wait for maintainers to
>> respond.
>>
>> --Doc Savage
>>    Fairview Heights, IL
>>
>
> usb_modeswitch got a big modification since 1.0.5 and I think that is
> not working with last udev, as it did in F11.
> I am in contact with Josh at usb_modeswitch site that is also running
> F12 and tonight will carry a test.
> I have already file the request for upgrade at
>  Bug 541686 -  Huawei 1692 is not recognized as a 3G card with standard
> file
>
> I hope that the maintainer can check it
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solved tnx to the help of Josua Dietze at USB_ModeSwitch website.
I disabled this line in /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules
#ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1446",
RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct} -t
option-zerocd"

and now it works even with no usb_modeswitch .
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Re: Smolt client for Ubuntu

2010-01-17 Thread Jay_Linux
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 11:47 +0530, Jay_Linux wrote:
> > Is there a Smolts package available for Debian/Ubuntu ?
>
> You'd probably have better luck on an Ubuntu list. Not to belabour the
> obvious, but this list is for Fedora users.
>
> poc
>
>
Thanks, have done so.

I posted to here because Fedora is the host and developer behind the Smolts
Project/database, and there is a package available for openSUSE and maybe
Mandriva.

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Re: Installation problem of FC11

2010-01-17 Thread Edward S.P. Leong
Timothy Murphy wrote:

>Edward S.P. Leong wrote:
>
>  
>
>>When I install the FC11 with a new machine by using
>>"Install or upgrade an existing system"
>>or
>>"Install system with basic video driver"
>>mode...
>>Point 1, I can't config the network config ( IP Address ), due to the
>>error of network manager...
>>Point 2, I can't enter into the text mode to do the installation steps...
>>So, would you mind to help ( idea / suggestion ) more ?
>>
>>
>
>It is not really clear what you are doing,
>but I would suggest trying a Live CD (I use the KDE Live CD).
>If this runs it has a button to install on the hard disk.
>
Dear You,

Sorry,
1, I want to know how can we install the FC11 in Text mode ?
2, During config the network config ( IP Address ), there is "error of
network management" error message...
So, would you mind to help the problems ?

Thanks !

Edward.
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Re: Mouse locks up or disappears in FC12 Fresh install

2010-01-17 Thread Jim
On 01/17/2010 06:16 AM, David Timms wrote:
> On 17/01/10 09:40, Jim wrote:
>
>> FC12 x86_64/KDE
>>
>> Mouse freezes or disappear after waking up from Power Management.
>>  
> I'm not sure if you mean after waking from suspend, or from hibernation ?
>
>
>> After computer has set for hours.
>>  
> Is that stayed the same way for hours, or slept for hours ?
>
> Is it a USB or PS/2 mouse ?
>
USB mouse.
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shared library corruption after hibernation?

2010-01-17 Thread Andras Simon
After waking up from hibernation (FC12 on an Acer netbook)
NetworkManager insists that networking is disabled, so I try

[r...@pici ~]# service NetworkManager restart
Starting NetworkManager daemon: NetworkManager: error while loading
shared libraries: /lib/libuuid.so.1: invalid ELF header

Looks like networking should be the least of my worries...

[si...@pici ~]$ rpm -qf /lib/libuuid.so.1
rpm: relocation error: /usr/lib/librpmio.so.0: symbol fcntl, version
GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libpthread.so.0 with link time reference

instead of libuuid-2.16.2-5.fc12.i686, but it's not just a problem
with rpm, because

[si...@pici ~]$ file /lib/libuuid.so.1
/lib/libuuid.so.1: symbolic link to `libuuid.so.1.3.0'

[si...@pici ~]$ file /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
/lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0: data

instead of
/lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped

After rebooting, things are back to normal.
Any idea what's going on?

Andras
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Re: Installation problem of FC11

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
Edward S.P. Leong wrote:
>
> Sorry,
> 1, I want to know how can we install the FC11 in Text mode ?
When you boot the DVD you'll see a screen with several options and a
count down.  At that point hit Esc.  You will get a prompt of boot:  At
that point, type "linux text"
> 2, During config the network config ( IP Address ), there is "error of
> network management" error message...
> So, would you mind to help the problems ?




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Re: After Reboot have to hit F1 to continue

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony Messina
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 09:44:35 kevin wrote:
> I noticed that when I upgraded to FC 11, the screen lets me know that I 
> have to hit the F1 key to continue. How can I disable this so it 
> automatically continues?

we'll probably need more details about what it says; why do you need to hit 
F1?

i have an old computer that always asks me to hit F1, not from Fedora, but 
from the BIOS since the internal battery has crapped out.
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Re: Installation problem of FC11

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Edward S.P. Leong wrote:
>   
>> Sorry,
>> 1, I want to know how can we install the FC11 in Text mode ?
>> 
> When you boot the DVD you'll see a screen with several options and a
> count down.  At that point hit Esc.  You will get a prompt of boot:  At
> that point, type "linux text"
>   
But  Please read this to avoid a "surprise".

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/en-US/sect-Release_Notes-Installation_Notes.html#sect-Release_Notes-Installation_Notes-Installation_in_Text_Mode


>> 2, During config the network config ( IP Address ), there is "error of
>> network management" error message...
>> So, would you mind to help the problems ?
>> 
>
>
>   


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Dual Gateways, Dual IPs on the same net

2010-01-17 Thread Mr Gabriel
If I configure a second virtual ip address on a device, will it always 
send packets to the gateway configured, or to it's primary gateway.

For example, two ISPs configured, two firewalls configured, gateway IP's 
192.168.1.1 and .2.  Internal server has IP 192.168.1.100 with gateway 
.1. Incoming packets that have been forwarded from outside, (for 
instance an SSH session), will be returned to .1 for routing back to the 
internet.

If a virtual adapter is configured with ip 192.168.1.101 and a gateway 
of .2 will traffic that is destined to 101, always be returned .2???


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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/17/2010 05:18 AM, s wrote:
> plymouth-set-default-theme --list

  Thats great thank you.

  Where can one find out what each 'theme' is - short of installing,
rebuilding initrd and rebooting - are they documented somewhere - or are
images available on the web ?

  I failed to find the plymouth website.

  Looking in /lib/plymouth (c/o plymouth --get-splash-plugin-path) ..
has the dynamic libraries for each theme, no images to help visualize.

  man plymouth - nothing
  info plymouth - nothing


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Re: Synaptics touchpad switches apps in an undesirable way

2010-01-17 Thread Wendell Nichols
Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 10:22 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>   
>> I've seen people tape a flap of cardboard over the touch pad if they
>> use a mouse.
>> 
>
> That is so tempting...  The simple solutions are often the best.
>
> I've tried reconfiguring mine, but that causes its own problems:
> Sometimes you need to use it, because you don't have the mouse, and you
> really don't want to have to reconfigure things, yet again.  Disabling
> the pad while typing adds annoying delays to your editing if you
> actually do want to want to use the pad.  Disabling tapping doesn't
> disable tapping 100% of the time on my system.  I wish it did, I have
> real buttons on my laptop that don't accidentally trigger, but the pad
> does.
>
> Can we design something worse than the mouse?
> Yes, here's a slow-as-stuck-in-molasses twiddle stick in the middle of
> the keyboard, that's worse than steering the inertia-riddled ship in the
> Asteroids game.
> Can we design something worse than the stick?
> Yes, here's a touch pad.  Sensitive to the movement of a fly, five feet
> away.
> I dread to think what comes next...
>
>   
I solved the mouse stud problem by removing the little rubber knob on 
top, and now it does not intrude on my life :)
I don't want to disable the touchpad, I need it because when sitting in 
an armchair (where I work for many hours a day because I'm recovering 
from back surgery) I just don't have a convenient place for a regular 
mouse.  I basically like the touchpad; I can scroll vertically and 
horizontally and it automatically stops working when I type.  The ONLY 
big problem I have is that if I change applications by clicking on the 
task bar; it scrolls through several apps or desktops as I move from the 
taskbar to the desktop!  It does this because the taskbar accidentally 
pics up a command to scroll.I just need to get the taskbar to stop 
interpreting the mouse scrolling input.  You would thinnk that would be 
a taskbar setting but there appear to be very few settings available for 
it.  Meybe there is an better taskbar widget... I'll look around.
Its such a small thing... and its so annoying that you would expect the 
designer of the task switcher to have considered it... unless they've 
never used a laptop!

Onwards and downwards...
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Re: PPPoE over WLAN

2010-01-17 Thread Valent Turkovic
I also see this issue in Fedora 12. Anybody got PPPoE working in
Fedora 12 over WIFI?

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Andreas Waldenburger
 wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the network at my university requires me to first connect to the WLAN
> and then use PPPoE to actually use the intertubes. Connecting to the
> WLAN itself works flawlessly (*hem*), the PPPoE though is a bit
> troublesome.
>
> I first tried setting this up via the DSL tab in Gnome's NetworkManager,
> but that didn't work. The connection is listed (not very surprisingly)
> under the wired networks, not under the wireless ones. I tried to be
> sneaky and entered my wlan-adapter's MAC address in the "wired" tab,
> but that only made the entry disappear from the network listing
> entirely (in the menu that you see when you left-click the
> notification icon).
>
> I did manage to set up the connection by running pppoe-setup as root.
> And although I did configure it to start at system boot, this doesn't
> happen. So now I have to run ifup as root every time I want to connect
> to the internet. To make things more annoying the WLAN connection
> disconnects somewhat frequently (lousy administration), prompting me do
> do ifdown and ifup each time that happens.
>
> Any way to have this PPPoE connection up automatically, preferably via
> NetworkManager? Any help is much appreciated.
>
> /W
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abrt making no sense

2010-01-17 Thread BeartoothHOS

It alerts me, and shows a bug unreported. I tell it to report. It 
churns through seventy downloads, or so it says. 

When it thinks it's ready, I fill out its question as to what I 
was doing, and tell it to go.

It gives me a box, labelled Report Done, but containing two error 
messages.

One is called Bugzilla, with the rest in red, "Can't login. Check 
Edit->Plugins->Bugzilla and /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf. Ser"

The other is called Logger, and reads "file:///var/log/abrt-
logger"

The first seems to expect me to read its mind, perhaps by going 
to the redhat bugzilla site and hitting Edit. I go, I login, and there is 
no Edit -- nor anything else I can find that makes any sense.

I do edit /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf (That "Ser" makes no 
sense.) I give it my login and password. Next time abrt runs, I get the 
same error again.

Seems to me abrt needs a technical writer who knows English. 
Badly.

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Help with Microsoft 4000 keyboard Zoom key?

2010-01-17 Thread Walter Francis
I have just replaced my ailing Microsoft Natural Elite keyboard which has
surprisingly served me well for about 11 years.. I've replaced it with the
(wired) Microsoft Natural 4000 which all is working fine on except for the
Zoom slider. It'd be handy to be able to map it somehow and so far no luck.
There is also the Microsoft 7000 which is a wireless keyboard which appears to
have the same slider key. It just creates repeated events when held up or
down, nothing really special.

xev does not pick up inputs from it at all, however the program showkey does:

# press up
keycode 418 press
keycode 418 release
# press down
keycode 419 press
keycode 419 release

BTW, as long as I hold the key, it repeats 418/419 press.

I've tried xbindkeys per some results on google, but it won't map anything
>255. I keep reading about "keytouch" but not quite sure how to use it and
seems a bit kludgy, but if that's the best solution I can try it again.

I've been googling and can't find anything that seems to help so far, any help
would be appreciated!

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Re: PPPoE over WLAN

2010-01-17 Thread Valent Turkovic
I posted this as a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556284

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Valent Turkovic
 wrote:
> I also see this issue in Fedora 12. Anybody got PPPoE working in
> Fedora 12 over WIFI?
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Andreas Waldenburger
>  wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> the network at my university requires me to first connect to the WLAN
>> and then use PPPoE to actually use the intertubes. Connecting to the
>> WLAN itself works flawlessly (*hem*), the PPPoE though is a bit
>> troublesome.
>>
>> I first tried setting this up via the DSL tab in Gnome's NetworkManager,
>> but that didn't work. The connection is listed (not very surprisingly)
>> under the wired networks, not under the wireless ones. I tried to be
>> sneaky and entered my wlan-adapter's MAC address in the "wired" tab,
>> but that only made the entry disappear from the network listing
>> entirely (in the menu that you see when you left-click the
>> notification icon).
>>
>> I did manage to set up the connection by running pppoe-setup as root.
>> And although I did configure it to start at system boot, this doesn't
>> happen. So now I have to run ifup as root every time I want to connect
>> to the internet. To make things more annoying the WLAN connection
>> disconnects somewhat frequently (lousy administration), prompting me do
>> do ifdown and ifup each time that happens.
>>
>> Any way to have this PPPoE connection up automatically, preferably via
>> NetworkManager? Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>> /W
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Re: abrt making no sense

2010-01-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:44:11 + (UTC), BeartoothHOS wrote:

> 
>   It alerts me, and shows a bug unreported. I tell it to report. It 
> churns through seventy downloads, or so it says. 
> 
>   When it thinks it's ready, I fill out its question as to what I 
> was doing, and tell it to go.
> 
>   It gives me a box, labelled Report Done, but containing two error 
> messages.
> 
>   One is called Bugzilla, with the rest in red, "Can't login. Check 
> Edit->Plugins->Bugzilla and /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf. Ser"

Weird.

1. Start ABRT (in "Applications > System Tools" menu).
2. Open "Edit > Plugins" menu dialog.
3. Scroll down to "Reporter plugins".
4. Click on the "Bugzilla … Reports bugs to bugzilla" entry.
5. Click "Configure plugin" button at the bottom of the dialog.
6. Enter your bugzilla login (email addr) and password.

That's how to configure it for bugzilla.redhat.com
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Re: Fedora 11 64bit Installtion on a New computer

2010-01-17 Thread Andrew Jamison
Hello,
 I have Fedora 12 installed on this machine and it works wonderfully cept
 for the ATI drivers which i understand is not a Fedora issue it is a AMD
 issue. However I tried to install Fedora 11 64bit on a secondary drive
 to allow for me to use the things that require 3d support such as games.

 When i go to install Fedora 11 the computer shows the grub menu on the
 DVD and proceeds to try and load the installer however during the intial
 loading of Anaconda i get an error message saying that it was unable to
 configure X so dumping to the text installer.

 Now if this installer would still install all the packages the graphical
 one would i could then dabble with a custom corg.conf to get the display
 working, however this seems to only install 183 packages which I assume
 are the bare bones packages needed to boot into a Kernel. It also fails
 to configure or even detect my network card in this fashion as well.

 My Hardware is as follows I have added the newegg links to the items so
 you can get full specs if you think that will help:

 2x Powercolor AX4650 1gb Radeon Graphics cards -
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131166

 AMD Athlon 620 x4 CPU -
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

 ASUS M4A78 PLUS motherboard -
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131381

 1TB Samsung F1 SATA HDD -
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102

 4gb of DDR2 1066 Kingston Ram -
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104098

 As mentioned this exact setup works with Fedora 12 just fine the only
 difference is the HDD for that is a Seagate not a samsung. Any ideas on
 how to get this to work? Is it hopeless to try?

 thanks,
 Andrew Jamison
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Re: Synaptics touchpad switches apps in an undesirable way [Fixed]

2010-01-17 Thread Wendell Nichols


Wendell Nichols wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 10:22 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I've seen people tape a flap of cardboard over the touch pad if they
>>> use a mouse.
>>> 
>>>   
>> That is so tempting...  The simple solutions are often the best.
>>
>> I've tried reconfiguring mine, but that causes its own problems:
>> Sometimes you need to use it, because you don't have the mouse, and you
>> really don't want to have to reconfigure things, yet again.  Disabling
>> the pad while typing adds annoying delays to your editing if you
>> actually do want to want to use the pad.  Disabling tapping doesn't
>> disable tapping 100% of the time on my system.  I wish it did, I have
>> real buttons on my laptop that don't accidentally trigger, but the pad
>> does.
>>
>> Can we design something worse than the mouse?
>> Yes, here's a slow-as-stuck-in-molasses twiddle stick in the middle of
>> the keyboard, that's worse than steering the inertia-riddled ship in the
>> Asteroids game.
>> Can we design something worse than the stick?
>> Yes, here's a touch pad.  Sensitive to the movement of a fly, five feet
>> away.
>> I dread to think what comes next...
>>
>>   
>> 
> I solved the mouse stud problem by removing the little rubber knob on 
> top, and now it does not intrude on my life :)
> I don't want to disable the touchpad, I need it because when sitting in 
> an armchair (where I work for many hours a day because I'm recovering 
> from back surgery) I just don't have a convenient place for a regular 
> mouse.  I basically like the touchpad; I can scroll vertically and 
> horizontally and it automatically stops working when I type.  The ONLY 
> big problem I have is that if I change applications by clicking on the 
> task bar; it scrolls through several apps or desktops as I move from the 
> taskbar to the desktop!  It does this because the taskbar accidentally 
> pics up a command to scroll.I just need to get the taskbar to stop 
> interpreting the mouse scrolling input.  You would thinnk that would be 
> a taskbar setting but there appear to be very few settings available for 
> it.  Meybe there is an better taskbar widget... I'll look around.
> Its such a small thing... and its so annoying that you would expect the 
> designer of the task switcher to have considered it... unless they've 
> never used a laptop!
>
> Onwards and downwards...
> wcn
>
>   
More on this:  I've noticed that if I change the setting of "desktop 
appearance" (right click on desktop and choose settings) from "Desktop" 
to "Folder view" it stops this scrolling behavior!  Now the annoying 
behaviour  only happens if the cursor is squarely on the taskbar, which 
happens but not nearly so often as on the desktop.  I think I can call 
this issue fixed, but I also think kde should have a setting for this.  
It would be even better if you could tall KDE that if the touchpad is 
enabled to disable scrolling desktops... but I'm probably getting 
carried away:)
Well back to work
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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sunday 17 January 2010 08:23 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 01/17/2010 05:18 AM, s wrote:
>> plymouth-set-default-theme --list
>

Isn't that the same as hitting ESC during the boot process?

>Thats great thank you.
>
>Where can one find out what each 'theme' is - short of installing,
> rebuilding initrd and rebooting - are they documented somewhere - or are
> images available on the web ?
>

Even better, try searching for youtube videos. The phoronix channel in 
particular. ;)

>   thanks
>
>   gene/

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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/17/2010 12:25 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

>>> plymouth-set-default-theme --list
>>
> 
> Isn't that the same as hitting ESC during the boot process?

  No - it just gives a list of currently installed plugin names.


> Even better, try searching for youtube videos. The phoronix channel in 
> particular. ;)

  Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ?
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Remote display problem

2010-01-17 Thread Karl-Olov Serrander
Hi !

I have 2 Fedora12 machines (a and b), when logged in after doing
"ssh -Y u...@b" from a and try to start xterm on b to be displayed
on a, I get "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0"

Both machines are on my local 192.168.0.0 net.

Default Fedora 12 ssh config files.

Any hints ?

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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sunday 17 January 2010 09:30 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 01/17/2010 12:25 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
 plymouth-set-default-theme --list
>>>
>>
>> Isn't that the same as hitting ESC during the boot process?
>

Oops sorry shouldn't reply when I am sleepy, I meant isn't the details 
plugin the same as hitting ESC while booting?

>No - it just gives a list of currently installed plugin names.
>
>
>> Even better, try searching for youtube videos. The phoronix channel in
>> particular. ;)
>
>Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ?

That is very true. But I guess like most apps in linux, the developers 
are not always interested in providing good documentation.

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Brasero headache

2010-01-17 Thread Les
Hi, everyone,
Brasero seems to have taken over all the shortcuts on my system.  I
don't often use the cd or dvd roms, but generally use the nautilus built
in cd writer to create the disk images.  Now Brasero has consumed all
the shortcuts, and I cannot get it to play nice with my DVD (it never
has).  How do I get back to the original Nautilus default cd/dvd writer
to create my image.  I don't seem to be able to locate it as "cd/dvd
writer" or "dvd*".

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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/17/2010 01:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

>>Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ?
> 
> That is very true. But I guess like most apps in linux, the developers 
> are not always interested in providing good documentation.
> 


  I dont agree - it is true for a subset - NetworkManager, Dbus,
plymouth spring to mind .. not sure whats common among these ...

  Many - no definitely most - apps are quite well documented (gcc,
sendmail, apache, squid, iptables, ssh[d], ksh, xterm, gdm (ok well some
docs anyway), named etc etc etc).


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Re: Rant time: F12 rocks !

2010-01-17 Thread Richard England

On 01/15/2010 11:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

Time for my monthly diatribe on how impressed I am with OSS/ Linux/
Fedora/ F12.

[rant]
Linux rocks !  F12 absolutely rocks !

I can't believe how great everything works these days.  Its friggin
amazing that all this great software is free and constantly being
improved.  New kernels, new Qt releases, new KDE releases, updates to my
favorite apps (evolution, OO suite, digiKam, etc.), it never stops.  F13
and its goodies are only 5 months away !

OS rules !

Kudos to the teams that make this happen.  You have no idea how much I
and others appreciate your work.
[/rant]

Out.

LG


   


Hear him!  Hear him!


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Re: Brasero headache

2010-01-17 Thread H. Willstrand
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Les  wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>        Brasero seems to have taken over all the shortcuts on my system.  I
> don't often use the cd or dvd roms, but generally use the nautilus built
> in cd writer to create the disk images.  Now Brasero has consumed all
> the shortcuts, and I cannot get it to play nice with my DVD (it never
> has).  How do I get back to the original Nautilus default cd/dvd writer
> to create my image.  I don't seem to be able to locate it as "cd/dvd
> writer" or "dvd*".
>

System->Preferences->File management->Media
Change the settings.

//HW

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> Les H
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fc11 - blank screen at boot after mobo upgrade

2010-01-17 Thread Tod Thomas
I had an old Epox mobo running with an old Athlon XP chip so I decided
to upgrade.  Before I made this decision I decided to upgrade from fc10
to fc11 using yum.  Upgrade went well, rebooted, everything fine.

After upgrading my Mobo and CPU to an Asus m4a78-em and a sempron 2.7GHz
AM3 chip I booted up.  All my drives are recognized, the grub prompt
comes up (I'm dual booting with windows XP on a smaller drive) and life
seems good until the screen goes blank.  After booting couple of times I
tried using noapic to no avail.  Once more I tried but removed quiet
from the grub kernel line.  This time I see stuff happening but the text
flies by so fast I can't read it, but at least I see the system trying
to boot.

I always upgrade using yum, never had a real problem I couldn't work
out.  I'm using stock LVM, never had a problem there either.  I wonder
if its grub but I didn't want to start messing around until I got a
little advice.  Also, I am dual booting windows on a separate drive.


Any ideas?


Thanks - Tod

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Broken SpamAssassin in Fedora 12?

2010-01-17 Thread Casartello, Thomas
I may have hit an odd bug when upgrading to Fedora 12 with the version
Fedora 12 includes.

 

I'm getting an odd message involving the Bayesian statistical system. Here
is the output I am getting:

 

 

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "db_readable" on an undefined value

at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm line

302.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "db_readable" on an undefined value

at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm line

302.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612,  line 124.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612,  line 124.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612,  line 139.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "tie_db_readonly" on an undefined

value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm

line 612,  line 367.

plugin: eval failed: Can't call method "untie_db" on an undefined value at

/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Bayes.pm line

375.

 

I inquired about this on the Spamassassin listserv. I just figured I'd
mention it on here because it was introduced immediately after upgrading to
F12.

 

 

Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.

Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator

Information Technology

Wilson 105A

Westfield State College

(413) 572-8245

 

Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT)

 



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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread suvayu ali
2010/1/17 Mail Lists :
> On 01/17/2010 01:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>>>    Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ?
>>
>> That is very true. But I guess like most apps in linux, the developers
>> are not always interested in providing good documentation.
>>
>
>
>  I dont agree - it is true for a subset - NetworkManager, Dbus,
> plymouth spring to mind .. not sure whats common among these ...
>
>  Many - no definitely most - apps are quite well documented (gcc,
> sendmail, apache, squid, iptables, ssh[d], ksh, xterm, gdm (ok well some
> docs anyway), named etc etc etc).
>

I should have been more specific :-p, what I meant was most of the
newer, especially the GUI apps. Like the ones you pointed out, or the
subject of this thread, plymouth and some more like those. As for the
standard GNU/Linux command line tools, they are very definitely well
documented through man pages and info manuals. However best part about
linux is probably the variety of community documentation available all
over the Internet. :)

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Re: F12 - partition damaged after hibernation on SDHC card

2010-01-17 Thread jaivuk
I opened new bug for my problem:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556304

I also find similar bug, but it was for F11 - 523358, however my behaviour
is slightly different because my hibernation was never finished.

I did also two additional actions, but without positive results:
- I put my swap file into logical volume located on luks partition, so it
does not have random password anymore.
- I increased swap size to 1.5GB but and I checked that no swap was used
before hibernation - no luck.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Stefano Cavallari <
stef...@cavallari.cjb.net> wrote:
>
> > In final I have this setup on the new SDHC card:
> > /dev/mmcblk0p1 - 7200k - luks/lvm/ext4 mounted to /var
> > /dev/mmcblk0p2 -  768k - encrypted swap initialised with /dev/urandom
> those are MB, right?
>
Yes, sorry, sizes were in MB not kb.


>
> what is your crypttab / fstab? Could be a misconfiguration.
>
I placed them into bug report. I don't think I have misconfiguration because
system is working really fine (apart for hibernation).

> Corruption should not happen at all. Does hibernate work without
encryption?
I did not tried that yet, I just tried swap over luks over lvm and
corruption happened as well.


> >Also is it possible to hibernate to file these days?
> Don't know. I think the kernel is capable but the initrd not. Just
> speculation
> though.


I actually find how to do swap file as a regular file by reading "man
mkswap", however I'm still not sure hibernation supports it.
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Re: F12 failing with KVM switches

2010-01-17 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:20:45 +, BeartoothHOS wrote:

> I normally run four PCs behind a KVM switch. The same ones worked fine
> for years, with several Fedora releases, and three or four switches as
> those wore out.
> 
>   Sometime since I installed F12, I began seeing a nasty trick. Any
> one machine works fine, so long as you stay on it; but if you switch
> around for just a few minutes, you'll find it frozen -- not seeing
> keyboard nor mouse, not recoverable by anything less than the reset
> button -- when you come back.
> 
>   I've tried changing keyboard and mouse. I even bought a new KVM
> switch.
> 
>   In case it's relevant, F12 has also been having a lot more
> trouble with my HP w2207h 1680x1050 LCD monitor than any of the last
> several releases.

Filed today as  Bug 556307 on Redhat bugzilla.
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vbetool at 100% after un-suspend from RAM

2010-01-17 Thread Gene Smith
When I suspend to ram and power back on "vbetool" is running at 100% on 
one CPU of 3 and it continues running indefinitely. Killing it destroys 
the display. This is not a laptop but an ATI based motherboard. 
Subsequent logout or suspend cause a reboot. I am running with kernel 
param "nomodeset" as generally required for ATI video. This happens with 
kde (w/ and wo/ powerdevil) and gnome.

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Re: fc11 - blank screen at boot after mobo upgrade

2010-01-17 Thread Stefano Cavallari
On Sunday 17 January 2010 19:07:31 Tod Thomas wrote:
> I had an old Epox mobo running with an old Athlon XP chip so I decided
> to upgrade.  Before I made this decision I decided to upgrade from fc10
> to fc11 using yum.  Upgrade went well, rebooted, everything fine.
> 
> After upgrading my Mobo and CPU to an Asus m4a78-em and a sempron 2.7GHz
> AM3 chip I booted up.  All my drives are recognized, the grub prompt
> comes up (I'm dual booting with windows XP on a smaller drive) and life
> seems good until the screen goes blank.  After booting couple of times I
> tried using noapic to no avail.  Once more I tried but removed quiet
> from the grub kernel line.  This time I see stuff happening but the text
> flies by so fast I can't read it, but at least I see the system trying
> to boot.
> 
> I always upgrade using yum, never had a real problem I couldn't work
> out.  I'm using stock LVM, never had a problem there either.  I wonder
> if its grub but I didn't want to start messing around until I got a
> little advice.  Also, I am dual booting windows on a separate drive.
>
> 
> Any ideas?
I'd try "nomodeset" (and no "quiet").
If it does not work maybe you can see some boot messages.

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LiveUSB memory mystery

2010-01-17 Thread Steven Stern
Here's the mystery. I'm running F12 from a 4GB USB key with a 2.5GB
persistent overlay on a machine with 2GB of memory.

Top shows

Mem:   2060824k total,  1912924k used,   147900k free,89556k buffers
Swap:  4112376k total,  276k used,  4112100k free,  1478628k cached

Where is it finding 4GB of swap?
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Re: abrt making no sense

2010-01-17 Thread Peter Larsen
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 16:44 +, BeartoothHOS wrote:

>   It alerts me, and shows a bug unreported. I tell it to report. It 
> churns through seventy downloads, or so it says. 


It's getting debug information necessary for any developer to respond to
your issue.


>   When it thinks it's ready, I fill out its question as to what I 
> was doing, and tell it to go.



That's the most important part. Without you explaining what you were
doing the developer will be very much in the dark on where to look. In
essence, a developer wants to replicate your problem and your
description is key to do that.


>   One is called Bugzilla, with the rest in red, "Can't login. Check 
> Edit->Plugins->Bugzilla and /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf. Ser"



This means you have not registered with bugzilla. What's going on is,
that abrt is creating a bug-report on your behalf. It will look for
existing bugs and add your information to it if it finds it, or it will
create a new issue if that's needed. But you need to be registered - and
the very first time abrt ran, you were asked for your credentials. You
need to goto buzilla.redhat.com and register for an account. Add that to
the abrt preferences, and go back and resend your information, so YOUR
PROBLEM can become a task for a developer.


>   The other is called Logger, and reads "file:///var/log/abrt-
> logger"



That's where it stored the information it wants to send to buzilla and
it's also where it stores the error it received from bugzilla. Look in
the file and see if it doesn't tell you more details about why it cannot
login.


>   The first seems to expect me to read its mind, perhaps by going 
> to the redhat bugzilla site and hitting Edit. I go, I login, and there is 
> no Edit -- nor anything else I can find that makes any sense.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com
It's a database front-end. You can run "reports" where you search for
existing reports, or see/manage the reports you've created. You can
actually do quite a bit, but you need to either create a bug or work on
an existing one. Bugzilla does take a while to get used to though - no
arguing there.


>   I do edit /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf (That "Ser" makes no 
> sense.) I give it my login and password. Next time abrt runs, I get the 
> same error again.


If you open abrt (Automatic Bug Report Tool - see it in your "System
Tools" menu and choose plugins, then find "bugzilla" and hit configure,
you may find it easier to manage. Make sure case and username are
spelled exactly the same. And make sure it's the same address (as above)
that is used by bugzilla.


>   Seems to me abrt needs a technical writer who knows English. 
> Badly.


I'm sure the project would appreciate your help; ABRT is an application
like any others; use bugzilla to suggest your language changes.

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Re: Rant time: F12 rocks !

2010-01-17 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 14:45 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:18:50 -0700
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
> 
> > I can't believe how great everything works these days.
> 
> You must happen to have a video card that works :-).

Well... search my posts or bugzilla and you'll see that I've had my fair
share of video issue both historically and recently.  But after some
playing around and a few of the bugs affecting me did get fixed, things
are pretty good on that front.  

> Actually, I also think f12 is one of the best releases,
> but I also guess it may be another 18 months or so before
> X recovers from all the redesign and starts working
> reliably again :-(.

I have to agree a bit there.  But then again this is Fedora, the cutting
edge release.  We have to expect a bit of that sort of thing, not that I
am giving the developers free reign to ship alpha grade updates. 

I think we've made incredible progress since F8 or so.  KDE4 used to be
terrible and now I find it pretty polished.

The thing that I'm finding is that Linux apps are starting to pass their
Windows equivalents.  In particular, I'm finding OO to be making some
pretty good progress these days. 

Note that I didn't say things were perfect.  I've got issues with sound
myself.   But the rate of improvement is incredible and if things keep
going as they have been, Linux is going to be THE OS to be running, bar
none, regardless of price, being open source, etc. 


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Re: LiveUSB memory mystery

2010-01-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 15:22:07 -0500,
  Steven Stern  wrote:
> Here's the mystery. I'm running F12 from a 4GB USB key with a 2.5GB
> persistent overlay on a machine with 2GB of memory.
> 
> Top shows
> 
> Mem:   2060824k total,  1912924k used,   147900k free,89556k buffers
> Swap:  4112376k total,  276k used,  4112100k free,  1478628k cached
> 
> Where is it finding 4GB of swap?

Maybe an existing swap partition on the hard drive is being used?
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WAV files in Evolution

2010-01-17 Thread Greg Woods
I am looking for a good, fast, clean way to play WAV files in Evolution.
I get these from Asterisk when I have a phone message.

If I click on the Play button that Evolution shows me, nothing happens.
If I click on the little arrow, I get a menu that lets me use Amarok or
Kaffeine to play the message. This works, but using a huge, slow GUI
application just to play a 10 second audio-only phone message is like
killing a fly with a pile driver. I can save the WAV file and play it
with a command like "play msg0001.WAV" and that works fine. What I would
like is to find a way to get Evolution to do this by default when I
click the Play button. I have been all through the Preferences menus in
Evolution and the various System -> Preferences GNOME menus, but I can't
find anywhere that I can change this.

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Re: LiveUSB memory mystery

2010-01-17 Thread jaivuk
>
>
> > Where is it finding 4GB of swap?
>
> Do

cat /proc/swaps

and you will see...
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Re: After Reboot have to hit F1 to continue

2010-01-17 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/18 Anthony Messina :
> we'll probably need more details about what it says; why do you need to hit
> F1?
>

This was solved in a second post he made to the list. He has a Dell,
it was a BIOS issue :-)

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Re: Pdf plugin for firefox-3.5.6

2010-01-17 Thread david walcroft
On 01/15/2010 08:04 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 01/14/2010 04:51 PM, david walcroft wrote:
>> On 01/14/2010 02:05 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>>> On 01/13/2010 10:32 PM, david walcroft wrote:
 On 01/14/2010 01:10 PM, david walcroft wrote:
> Where do I find a pdf plugin for firefox-3.5.6-x86_64.
> I tried looking at Adobe with no luck.The internet
> didn't provide much luck either
>
> Thanks david

 I found an Adobe Reader .bin file,how do I install it
>>>
>>> Is it a shell script containing an encoded binary file at the end of it?
>>>If so, use it as input to your shell.
>>>
>>> (ie:  "sh<   in.file" )
>>>
>>> where "sh: is the appropriate shell
>>>
>> I tried your suggestion but received this
>>
>> [da...@reddwarf rpm]$ bash "<  AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
>> bash:<  AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin: No such file or directory.
>> There is a .bin file in this dir 'AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin'
>> What am I doing wrong.
>
> Get rid of the "'s  I put them in so you could see the text you should
> type.  You are using them to quote the first option to BASH which is
> *NOT* what I intended...
>
> bash<  AdbeRdr9.3-1_486linux_enu.bin
>
> should be sufficient (note:  no "'s)
>
> BTW, This RPM is now available from Adobe's repo as of today.  Why no
> just configure it and let yum do the heavy lifting
>
>> Thanks david
>
>
Hi
I downloaded the .rpm,thanks for the info but It requires 16 lib 
dependencies most of which are not available via yum. I tried the bash
setup but this what I get:

[da...@reddwarf ~]$ cd rpm
[da...@reddwarf rpm]$ bash < AdbeRdr9.3-1_486linux_enu.bin
bash: AdbeRdr9.3-1_486linux_enu.bin: No such file or directory
[da...@reddwarf rpm]$ ls -l AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin
-rw-rw-r--. 1 david david 45406336 2010-01-14 12:50 
AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin
[da...@reddwarf rpm]$ sudo bash < AdbeRdr9.3-1_486linux_enu.bin
bash: AdbeRdr9.3-1_486linux_enu.bin: No such file or directory.

This the dependencies for the .rpm

[da...@reddwarf rpm]$ sudo rpm -Uvh AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libatk-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libglib-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgobject-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgthread-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libidn.so.11 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libpango-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libpangox-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
libXt.so.6 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
[da...@reddwarf rpm]$ sudo yum install libatk
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
No package libatk available.
Nothing to do

Am I ever going to get this file installed.

Thanks for your help
david
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Re: Pdf plugin for firefox-3.5.6

2010-01-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi David,

On Sunday 17 January 2010 02:06 PM, david walcroft wrote:
> This the dependencies for the .rpm
>
> [da...@reddwarf rpm]$ sudo rpm -Uvh AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
>   libatk-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libglib-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgobject-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgthread-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libidn.so.11 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libpango-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libpangox-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
>   libXt.so.6 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-9.3-1.i486
> [da...@reddwarf rpm]$ sudo yum install libatk
> Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> No package libatk available.
> Nothing to do

All those dependencies are available in the repos. You just need to look 
properly. Whenever you are trying to resolve dependencies manually, try 
like this:

> # yum whatprovides */libatk-1.0.so.0
> atk-1.25.2-2.fc11.i586 : Interfaces for accessibility support
> Repo: fedora
> Matched from:
> Filename: /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0
>
> atk-1.25.2-2.fc11.x86_64 : Interfaces for accessibility support
> Repo: fedora
> Matched from:
> Filename: /usr/lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0

You don't even have to go through that hassle if the rpm is packaged 
properly, just doing this should get it installed:

$ yum localinstall AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.rpm

> Am I ever going to get this file installed.

In the next 5 minutes after you read this. ;)

> Thanks for your help
>  david

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Re: F12 - partition damaged after hibernation on SDHC card

2010-01-17 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 19:31 +, jaivuk wrote:
> I actually find how to do swap file as a regular file by reading "man
> mkswap", however I'm still not sure hibernation supports it.

A kernel line parameter (in grub.conf) or a setting in the initrd file
specifies where to read to un-hibernate.  If you've created a new swap
since the initrd was created, you need to recreate the initrd or specify
the swap file/partition to use on the kernel line.

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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Tim
Suvayu Ali: 
>> I guess like most apps in linux, the developers are not always
>> interested in providing good documentation. 

Mail Lists 
> I dont agree - it is true for a subset - NetworkManager, Dbus,
> plymouth spring to mind .. not sure whats common among these ...
> 
>   Many - no definitely most - apps are quite well documented (gcc,
> sendmail, apache, squid, iptables, ssh[d], ksh, xterm, gdm (ok well some
> docs anyway), named etc etc etc).

You'll notice a common trend of graphical apps with poor documentation,
based on the belief that they're self-evident, versus console apps that
(much more obviously) need documentation.

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Re: WAV files in Evolution

2010-01-17 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 14:00 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:
> I am looking for a good, fast, clean way to play WAV files in
> Evolution.

Near the top of the plugins list, on my Evolution, is an item for
playing audio files in-line.  Try it.

Also, on my Evolution, all the open-with applications I've set up to
deal with audio appear with the message.  So if I put a small
application into the list, that's an option as well.  You can put
command line entries into the open-with list using Nautilus (probably
other methods, too).

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Re: WAV files in Evolution

2010-01-17 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 14:00 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:
> I am looking for a good, fast, clean way to play WAV files in
> Evolution.

Near the top of the plugins list, on my Evolution, is an item for
playing audio files in-line.  Try it.

Addendum:  Setting that up is accessed via the "plugins" menu item next
to the "preferences" menu entry.  I don't mean from within a message.

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Re: abrt making no sense

2010-01-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 17:52 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: 
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:44:11 + (UTC), BeartoothHOS wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It alerts me, and shows a bug unreported. I tell it to report. It 
> > churns through seventy downloads, or so it says. 
> > 
> > When it thinks it's ready, I fill out its question as to what I 
> > was doing, and tell it to go.
> > 
> > It gives me a box, labelled Report Done, but containing two error 
> > messages.
> > 
> > One is called Bugzilla, with the rest in red, "Can't login. Check 
> > Edit->Plugins->Bugzilla and /etc/abrt/plugins/Bugzilla.conf. Ser"
> 
> Weird.
> 
> 1. Start ABRT (in "Applications > System Tools" menu).
> 2. Open "Edit > Plugins" menu dialog.
> 3. Scroll down to "Reporter plugins".
> 4. Click on the "Bugzilla … Reports bugs to bugzilla" entry.
> 5. Click "Configure plugin" button at the bottom of the dialog.
> 6. Enter your bugzilla login (email addr) and password.
> 
> That's how to configure it for bugzilla.redhat.com

When the error pops up in a live abrt episode, there's a button in the
middle of the popup that allows you to put in your Bugzilla login info.
It took me a minute to realize that it was there and had to be clicked,
though.

(Sorry, I'm not in a position to reproduce that and describe it any
better.  All my machines have the Bugzilla login configured.)

> 

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Re: Pdf plugin for firefox-3.5.6

2010-01-17 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 14:18 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> Hi David,
> You don't even have to go through that hassle if the rpm is packaged 
> properly, just doing this should get it installed:
> 
> $ yum localinstall AdbeRdr9.3-1_i486linux_enu.rpm

You also need to pass --nogpgcheck to make yum actually install the
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Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?

2010-01-17 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/17/2010 05:30 PM, Tim wrote:

> You'll notice a common trend of graphical apps with poor documentation,
> based on the belief that they're self-evident, versus console apps that
> (much more obviously) need documentation.
> 

 Possibly possibly not - DBUS is not graphical however ... not is
NetworkManager - nm-applet yes ... but NM itself is a server daemon ...
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Re: intermittent audio

2010-01-17 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt
shall  be the whole  of the Law.


i have just rebooted, and audio is working...
(before i couldn't get past the output test..)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:42 AM, David Timms  wrote:
> On 17/01/10 13:21, charles zeitler wrote:
>> can someone recommend some steps i can take to narrow
>> this down?
> Not without you giving some hints as to:
> - hardware (eg a smolt public link)

m-board = GA-MA790XT-UD4P
sound = SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)

(how do i set up a smolt link?)

> - os

fedora 12

> - updatedness.

current ( as of yesterday )

> - application you are trying with

kaffeine, kplayer, vlc...

> - if run a terminal with tail -f /var/log/messages,

i see:


Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: ratelimit.c: 813 events suppressed
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:
snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally large:
6377097072356599516 bytes (326791809566
 ms).
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: Most likely
this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'. Please report this
issue to the ALSA de
velopers.
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: Hooks PCM
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   stream
 : PLAYBACK
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   access
 : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   format   : S16_LE
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   subformat: STD
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   channels : 2
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   rate : 44100
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   exact rate
 : 44100 (44100/1)
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   msbits   : 16
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 88192
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 44096
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 09
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : ENABLE
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   avail_min: 87487
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:
stop_threshold   : 6205960286516543488
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   boundary
 : 6205960286516543488
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: Slave:
Hardware PCM card 1 'HDA ATI HDMI' device 3 subdevice 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   stream
 : PLAYBACK
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   access
 : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   format   : S16_LE
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   subformat: STD
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   channels : 2
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   rate : 44100
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   exact rate
 : 44100 (44100/1)
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   msbits   : 16
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 88192
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 44096
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 09
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : ENABLE
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   avail_min: 87487
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:
stop_threshold   : 6205960286516543488
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   boundary
 : 6205960286516543488
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   appl_ptr : 182096
Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:   hw_ptr   : 88199

and :

Jan 16 16:40:27 localhost pulseaudio[3295]: alsa-util.c:
snd_pcm_delay() returned a v

Re: Mouse locks up or disappears in FC12 Fresh install

2010-01-17 Thread Jim



On 01/17/2010 10:10 AM, Jim wrote:
>  On 01/17/2010 06:16 AM, David Timms wrote:
>>  On 17/01/10 09:40, Jim wrote:
>>>  FC12 x86_64/KDE
>>>
>>>  Mouse freezes or disappear after waking up from Power Management.
>>  I'm not sure if you mean after waking from suspend, or from
>>  hibernation ?
>>
>>>  After computer has set for hours.
>>  Is that stayed the same way for hours, or slept for hours ?
>>
>>  Is it a USB or PS/2 mouse ?
>  USB mouse.


This problem occurs with a USB or PS/2 mouse.

When the screen goes black after about 15 minutes , if I just move the
mouse around with out clicking any switches, I can wake the display up
,but mouse is not visible

And if I right click on Desktop and window opens, the mouse will move up
or down in Window  , but the mouse pointer is not visible

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start application after log gnome desktop

2010-01-17 Thread L
hi,

I have an application at /home/users/bin/email.sh, I want this app
started in background  after I log into gnome desktop. Where to add
this?

best

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Re: start application after log gnome desktop

2010-01-17 Thread Adel ESSAFI
system->preference->personel->session



2010/1/18 L 

> hi,
>
> I have an application at /home/users/bin/email.sh, I want this app
> started in background  after I log into gnome desktop. Where to add
> this?
>
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Re: start application after log gnome desktop

2010-01-17 Thread Adel ESSAFI
system->preference->personel->session

2010/1/18 Adel ESSAFI 

>
> system->preference->personel->session
>
>
>
> 2010/1/18 L 
>
> hi,
>>
>> I have an application at /home/users/bin/email.sh, I want this app
>> started in background  after I log into gnome desktop. Where to add
>> this?
>>
>> best
>>
>> L
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F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Barry Yu
Would appreciate any input that can enable me in F12 to make use of wi-fi 
printer HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m, when connected with usb cable it works fine 
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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
Barry Yu wrote:
> Would appreciate any input that can enable me in F12 to make use of
> wi-fi printer HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m, when connected with usb
> cable it works fine but can't setup the wireless connection.
I don't know if my experience with my HP PSC 2510 would be any help.

But, it has 3 connections possible.  USB, wired network, or Wifi.  The
documentation on the printer indicated the default IP address on the
wired connection.  I connected the printer to my system ethernet to
ethernet and pointed my browser at it with http://192.168.1.1/  (I'm
guessing at the IP address).  Then I simply used the web admin interface
to configure the wifi stuff...including WEP.

So, the printer ended up with an IP address and was pingable from
anywhere on my LAN.

I then used the tools from hplip package to create the needed devices in
F12.


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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Barry Yu writes:

Would appreciate any input that can enable me in F12 to make use of wi-fi 
printer HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m, when connected with usb cable it works 
fine but can't setup the wireless connection.


A quick Google search found a manual for this printer. Which, I'm sure you 
also have. After you direct your attention to page 5 of this manual, you 
will discover that this printer does not like standard 802.11 networks, but 
it really wants a wireless router that supports some mutation called a "WiFi 
Protected Setup". Basically, a wi-fi router that, in addition to supporting 
ordinary wi-fi clients, the router also features a magical button that you 
press first, the press a matching magical button on this printer's display, 
and the printer established a connection to the router. It's all in your 
manual.


So, unless your wi-fi router has this magical button, you're somewhat boned. 
But, according to the following pages in the manual, it's possible to get 
this router working with a standard wi-fi router, but you must configure it 
through a USB connection using the supplied Windows software. I haven't 
tried, but I'm rather skeptical that there's a Linux equivalent for this 
setup software. So, you're still boned.


And, in either case, it's not clear what the printer would look like over 
wi-fi. Hopefully, it would look like a CUPS or an lpr host, and once you 
reconfigure your wi-fi router to turn off client isolation, you should be 
able to set it up like any other CUPS or an lpr-hosted printer.




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Re: start application after log gnome desktop

2010-01-17 Thread L
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Adel ESSAFI  wrote:
>
> system->preference->personel->session
>
> 2010/1/18 Adel ESSAFI 
>>
>> system->preference->personel->session

thanks, with your hint, I figure out it is

system -> preferences -> startup applications

in Fedora 12

>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/18 L 
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I have an application at /home/users/bin/email.sh, I want this app
>>> started in background  after I log into gnome desktop. Where to add
>>> this?
>>>
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Re: After Reboot have to hit F1 to continue

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony Messina
On Sunday 17 January 2010 15:58:41 Chris Smart wrote:
> 2010/1/18 Anthony Messina :
> > we'll probably need more details about what it says; why do you need to
> > hit F1?
> 
> This was solved in a second post he made to the list. He has a Dell,
> it was a BIOS issue :-)

right.  thanks.  this was a simple issue of receiving mail from *both* lists, 
the fedoraproject one  and the redhat one.  i thread everything and saw no 
more posts to the current thread, until...  way down the list were the 
messages from the other list.  i have the same thing on an old dell where the 
internal battery is crap and it feels the need to sit there so i know about 
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Re: WAV files in Evolution

2010-01-17 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:06 +1030, Tim wrote: 
> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 14:00 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:
> > I am looking for a good, fast, clean way to play WAV files in
> > Evolution.
> 
> Near the top of the plugins list, on my Evolution, is an item for
> playing audio files in-line.  Try it.

I found this in Edit -> Plugins, but it's already checked. This appears
to control whether or not the Play, Stop, Pause buttons appear with the
WAV attachment. The problem is that when I click the Play button,
nothing (visible or audible) happens. If I uncheck it and restart
Evolution, then the Play-Stop-Pause buttons do not appear any more.

I also tried adding a custom command in Nautilus, but I'm  not certain
how to go about doing that (I do not normally use Nautilus much). I
tried using "play", "play %s", and "play -" as custom commands under
Edit -> Preferences -> Media -> Music Player, but it doesn't alter the
behavior of the Play button in Evolution for those WAV attachments.

I forgot to mention that this is with F12.

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Re: WAV files in Evolution

2010-01-17 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 22:27 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:

> I found this in Edit -> Plugins, but it's already checked. This appears
> to control whether or not the Play, Stop, Pause buttons appear with the
> WAV attachment. The problem is that when I click the Play button,
> nothing (visible or audible) happens.

A little more on this: I started evolution in a terminal window, and
when I click the Play button, it says:

** Message: don't know how to handle audio/ms-gsm, rate=(int)8000, 
channels=(int)1, codec_data=(buffer)4001

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redirection puzzle

2010-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

I have a terminal program running on the far end of a bluetooth serial 
circuit that is capable of handling the reception, or sending, of a file via 
the zmodem protocol.

Unforch, the linux version of sz seems to fall short in 2 respects.

1.  I am only seeing two **B00 in the received string, I was under the 
impression there should be ***B00 etc, am I right|wrong?

FWIW, if I fire up minicom, no characters are gobbled up from what I type on 
this end.  And conversely, no characters are lost by minicom of those I type 
on the other end.

2. The man page for sz ignores any references to the proper redirection of 
the desired path, and while I can get it to attempt a send according to the 
traffic monitor in blueman-manager, in fact I see traffic going both ways in 
the blueman-manager status line, but nothing is actually transmitted to the 
other end, and in 30 seconds or so, sz reports:

Retry 0: Timeout on pathname

Transfer incomplete

This in spite of the fact that I gave it an -C10 -b filename on the 
invocation.

So what is the proper "<>>" way to make sz use /dev/rfcomm0 for all transfer 
I/O?  Man bash gives no examples for redirection of stdout and stdin 
simultainiously(sp?)

Thanks all

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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Barry Yu

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Greshko" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus 
B209a-m


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Here is my steps finally make it;
Use the HP setup CD under XP setup the wireless printing, so the printer 
joint the wireless network and obtained IP address.
In Fedora, System->Administration->Printing, add the network printer, in the 
Host box entered the IP address of wireless printer and then click the 
"Find" button to detect the printer.
Thanks for your advice and hint

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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
Barry Yu wrote:
>
> Here is my steps finally make it;
> Use the HP setup CD under XP setup the wireless printing, so the printer 
> joint the wireless network and obtained IP address.
>   
Too bad there wasn't a way to do it without using Windows.  :-(

This'll remind me to download printer manuals before I buy a new one... 
> In Fedora, System->Administration->Printing, add the network printer, in the 
> Host box entered the IP address of wireless printer and then click the 
> "Find" button to detect the printer.
> Thanks for your advice and hint
>
>   


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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Jatin K
On 01/18/2010 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Barry Yu wrote:
>
>> Here is my steps finally make it;
>> Use the HP setup CD under XP setup the wireless printing, so the printer
>> joint the wireless network and obtained IP address.
>>
>>  
why obtain IP automatically ..???  just configure static IP in printer


why  use windows ??? if you have a gate 8-)


> Too bad there wasn't a way to do it without using Windows.  :-(
>
> This'll remind me to download printer manuals before I buy a new one...
>
>> In Fedora, System->Administration->Printing, add the network printer, in the
>> Host box entered the IP address of wireless printer and then click the
>> "Find" button to detect the printer.
>> Thanks for your advice and hint
>>
>>
>>  
>
>
why o

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Re: F12 how to make wireless printer work - HP Photosmart Plus B209a-m

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
Jatin K wrote:
> On 01/18/2010 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>   
>> Barry Yu wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Here is my steps finally make it;
>>> Use the HP setup CD under XP setup the wireless printing, so the printer
>>> joint the wireless network and obtained IP address.
>>>
>>>  
>>>   
> why obtain IP automatically ..???  just configure static IP in printer
>
>
> why  use windows ??? if you have a gate 8-)
>   
This isn't my printer...and I didn't download the manuals.  However, Sam
did research and came to that conclusion.

So, if you have specific information to add please do.   Since the OP
has his printer up and running I think it is done so maybe he doesn't
care any more.




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