[solved] Re: F12 nouveau problem?
On 02/03/2010 07:38 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 02/02/2010 07:16 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: > having a *little* problem with nouveau and NVIDIA FX5200 (princeton > display, 1280x1024): Under F12, it works OK - but when rebooting to > WinXP, the screen is not centered, but shifted a little bit to the left > (a small black vertical bar remains rightside). After auto tuning the > display in WinXP, and after rebooting to F12, there is the inverse > effect (small black vertical bar on the left side). Same here. The drivers from Nvidia and from the open source community use slightly different settings for screen position. Yes, it's annoying. I'm sure that could be changed with ModeLines in xorg.conf, but that wouldn't help for KMS. Maybe the developers of the open source drivers only use DVI and don't care, or they don't use Windows and never noticed the problem. > By running my screen with kmod-nvidia-173xx from rpmfusion, I get rid > from these problems. Sure, then you use Nvidia's driver with both operating systems. They use the same settings for screen position of course. Nvidia's downloadable driver for Windows allows you to shift the screen. That's the easiest solution of you use this drivers. Hi Andreas, thx for this hint: I'll install the most recent Nvidia driver in XP and check that together with the F12 nouveau driver. Regards Joachim Backes If you use the Nvidia driver that comes with Windows then I don't know if it's possible to modify the screen position. Greetings, Andreas Hi Andreas, After installing 175.16_geforce_winxp_32bit_international_whql.exe I got rid of the screen position problem (horizontal shift OK). F12 and XP screen positions now are the same. Regards -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
*Kevin, He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT outdated. If there they **outdated the developers will mention about this in the main website. He will check then he will decided. * -- Best Wishes, Waleed Harbi Dream | Do | Be On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Waleed Harbi wrote: > > *Here they are: > > http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 > > That link: > * only talks about PDFs. There are many other e-book formats. > * is completely outdated, e.g. it lists Kpdf (which has been replaced by > Okular since Fedora 9) and it claims Okular is not ready for production use > (which was true back in 2006 when it was written, but not anymore now). > >Kevin Kofler > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 nouveau problem?
On 02/02/2010 07:16 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: > having a *little* problem with nouveau and NVIDIA FX5200 (princeton > display, 1280x1024): Under F12, it works OK - but when rebooting to > WinXP, the screen is not centered, but shifted a little bit to the left > (a small black vertical bar remains rightside). After auto tuning the > display in WinXP, and after rebooting to F12, there is the inverse > effect (small black vertical bar on the left side). Same here. The drivers from Nvidia and from the open source community use slightly different settings for screen position. Yes, it's annoying. I'm sure that could be changed with ModeLines in xorg.conf, but that wouldn't help for KMS. Maybe the developers of the open source drivers only use DVI and don't care, or they don't use Windows and never noticed the problem. > By running my screen with kmod-nvidia-173xx from rpmfusion, I get rid > from these problems. Sure, then you use Nvidia's driver with both operating systems. They use the same settings for screen position of course. Nvidia's downloadable driver for Windows allows you to shift the screen. That's the easiest solution of you use this drivers. Hi Andreas, thx for this hint: I'll install the most recent Nvidia driver in XP and check that together with the F12 nouveau driver. Regards Joachim Backes If you use the Nvidia driver that comes with Windows then I don't know if it's possible to modify the screen position. Greetings, Andreas -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
2010/2/3 Oliver Ruebenacker : > Hello, > <--SNIP--> > I definitely see a need that PDF fulfills. The free software > community should either fully support it or come up with an > alternative. Actually, there is one. It's called ODF (open document format; see [1]). And it is in use already [2]. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Worldwide_adoption > > Take care > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist > Systems Biology Linker at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/sybil) > Turning Knowledge Data into Models > Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling > http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org > -- -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla [Making Progress]
Aaron Konstam wrote: > What I saw under F11 was icons for all the Fedora machines on the LAN > including the one I am on and I would expect to be able to open the icon > and login to the machine. You can do that using Places-> Connect to > Server but then yo need to know in advance the machines name or ip > address. Using Places->Network seems easier. > OK I got an F11 system up and running. And I now see what you want. On the F11 system I bring up "Places->Network" and indeed there are icons labeled "f11" and "f12". Clicking on the "f12" icon brings up a login dialog which then results in an sftp connection. Now. The reason you see this on F11 and not F12 is that F11 is sending out MDNS query broadcasts and F12 is responding. *However*, F12 is not sending out MDNS queries. I thought this was due to the file /etc/sysconfig/network contained "NOZEROCONF=yes" but changing it to "no" has had not effect. So, need to figure out how to get F12 to send MDNS queries. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 02/02/2010 09:21 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? > There are several in the Fedora repos. You may want to use yumex and do a search on ebook or book reader... Ebook Viewer LRF viewer calbre FBReader I am sure I missed a couple, but this should get you started... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Nouveau to provide 3d support for older cards very soon
The following article has information about Nouveau getting working 3d support for older cards (up to some nv20s) very soon: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk1NA Since I have some scrounged machines that came with nv20s, I am very pleased by this. This will make testing the games spin easier. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SPAM] bug/feature in host/nslookup command - queries wrong server
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:19:13 +1030 Tim wrote: > Alternatively, you can > use the dig command to query specific servers. Yea, but you can't understand anything dig prints to stdout, so using it to do queries is hopeless :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless adapter stops working after update
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 23:55 +0100, Peter Lesterhuis wrote: > I reinstalled fedora 12 ... and the card starts working again. > But after installing updates an rebooting it stops working. > Any clues would be wellcome. Give the list some logs to look at... -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SPAM] bug/feature in host/nslookup command - queries wrong server
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:57 +, Duncan Berriman wrote: > I have noticed that fedora 10 appears to ignore the server option when > using host or nslookup if the host in question is not available. Have you checked the man file for any syntax changes to the command? I notice Fedora 9 behaves the way you describe. Alternatively, you can use the dig command to query specific servers. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:13 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > NV does not feel that in the Linux market they would make more money, > sell more hardware, with Open Source drivers than they do with the > drivers they provide. They feel that the closed source drivers > suffice, and they provide those. It's not an unusual attitude with drives and Windows, either. We sold you a card with drivers, it worked (never mind how good or bad it worked), and we released a few updates, and we've abandoned that card for newer models. If you don't like it, buy another card. Rinse, lather, repeat. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:56 +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > E.g. "I need to take the blue inhaler as I need it, the green and > brown ones twice a day, the yellow pills in the morning, the pink ones > at night and two of the brown ones with lunch.. now, what have I > forgotten?" :-) Pity the poor pharmacist who has to help a customer configure their reminders, as well as the usual advice about taking their medication... -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
Hello, On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >> That NIH insists on using Adobe Reader is indeed disturbing. But >> then, what is the alternative to Adobe Reader, if free software >> apparently does not support the latest PDF? > > Paper, as they have used in the past? A set of regular PDFs, one per form > (and the fancy JavaScript-loaded crap as an alternative for the people who > can't figure it out)? There are plenty of alternatives which wouldn't lock > users into proprietary software. You should not give those bureaucrats a > free pass for this! (That you have to deal with it is one thing, but that > you then defend their unreasonable choice doesn't make sense.) We all hate bureaucracy. But I do appreciate a form that tells you if you forgot to fill out something, or takes care of boring tasks like copying or adding. I wish the tax forms were like this, and not like they are (e.g. "if line 5 is greater than line 4, subtract line 4 form line 5 and enter the result in line 6. Enter zero in line 6 otherwise" etc.) Instead, the US Revenue Service gives you a list of private tax software, and when I try one, I discover after hours of work that they don't support form 1046-S. I definitely see a need that PDF fulfills. The free software community should either fully support it or come up with an alternative. Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist Systems Biology Linker at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/sybil) Turning Knowledge Data into Models Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
On 02/02/2010 02:08 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Andras Simon wrote: >> On 2/2/10, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>> Andras Simon wrote: All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: >>> Defaults are sometimes surprising. >>> Let's have a look at >>>cat /proc/mount >> >> I think you're onto something... >> >> /dev/sda5 /home ext4 rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 >> >> I definitely don't want relatime there. Would something like >> >> ext4defaults,atime >> >> in fstab get rid of this? > > There is a norelatime option, but it could be not enough. > > I had this kind of problem some time ago and Kevin Fenzi told me > how to do it: > > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121542196521553&w=2 > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121545811619620&w=2 Try adding "strictatime" to the fstab options. This permits overriding any kernel defaults (e.g. ext4 defaulting to "relatime"). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only - -occurs there and then - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: e100 error
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:30 -0800, Les wrote: > The only thing changing in my system is the adding of the PCI based > video card. How can that affect the hardware setup of the NIC card? If the PCI busses share an IRQ, things can get pernickity. Try a different slot, or re-arranging the order of cards in slots. I used to strike that kind of thing all the time. Though in more recent years, with all-on-the-motherboard peripherals, I haven't had to put in several cards, any more. > Moreover, why is the renaming taking place at all to begin with? Mac > addresses are supposed to be unique. There have been cards known to have duplicate MACs, though I don't recall who and how far spread it was. And I didn't see your message mentioning how the MAC changed. > The reason I am doing this is to eliminate video streaking on the > subject computer which occurs with the built in intel chipset. Hmm, hardware fault, or software driving problem? A hardware fault could be having several effects, only some of which would be immediately obvious. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: key logger
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:15:49 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 02/01/2010 07:47 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> Is there a standard keylogger for F12? I've found lkl and uberkey on >> the web, but I'd prefer to stay within F12. Thanks! > > I brewed up a keylogger (well, command line logger) for bash. It uses > the syslog mechanism (logging at "local5.info" level). I built it for > CentOS 5.4 (source and binary RPMs), but I suppose I could cobble it > together for F12's bash if you're in dire need. > -- - > Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - > AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - > - - > C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - > -- Thanks! I need to log all X server keyboard events, not just bash. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Brother MFC210C Printer Install
Jim writes: FC12-X86_64/Kde There are no Linux drivers for this printer other than the ones from Brother, but they are i386.rpm drivers and I need to install on a X86_64 Fedora12. What other 32 bit rpms would I need to install to get the i386.rpm drivers to work on a X86_64 box ? Whatever ones rpm tells you it needs, when you try to install the rpm. Of course, you must be certain that the Brother's frankenrpm even works on Fedora. Old habits of clueless vendors die hard, and they're probably providing RPMs for RHEL only, that would be my guess. You'll be much better off returning this beast, and replacing it with something that works out of the box with Linux. It's not like there's a shortage of printers that are supported by CUPS. pgpsD3fi6qHd3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Brother MFC210C Printer Install
FC12-X86_64/Kde There are no Linux drivers for this printer other than the ones from Brother, but they are i386.rpm drivers and I need to install on a X86_64 Fedora12. What other 32 bit rpms would I need to install to get the i386.rpm drivers to work on a X86_64 box ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blacklisting Nouveau
Personally, I consider ATI to be nothing more than scrap metal waiting > for a rubbish bin, and you couldn't pay me enough money to ditch nVidia > for ATI. > Agreed For my needs Nvidia works fairly well, the others do not. Roger PS Usability of 3D drivers is what we need and when Nouveau fills that need it will replace the others wit little to no effort. R -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A "sound" observation
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> First of all I don't know why you use "we". I don't think you >> speak for the "Fedora Project". (OK, I'm very sure you don't speak for >> the Fedora Project) I discount most of what you say. >> > > I am a Fedora KDE packager, so I say "we" when I speak of the KDE SIG in > particular or Fedora packagers in general. (In this case, it was about how > KDE is set up in Fedora, so I obviously meant "we" as in the Fedora KDE > packagers. And yes, I'm one of the decision-makers in KDE SIG.) > That's nice. Yet, you are still only "one" of the many. I sure hope that when you use "we" you have consulted with the others in your collective to insure you are speaking for everyone. You certainly didn't ask when you stated that "we" didn't have the time to help an F9 user with an issue he had. Nor did you see fit to explain the context of "we". >> Second, I know that within the Fedora KDE release pulseaudio is >> installed by default. But, unlike GNOME one can easily dispense with >> pulseaudio with KDE installed from the start. >> > > PulseAudio is getting more and more integrated in KDE as well. See e.g.: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE_PulseAudio_Integration > Yet, it can still be ripped out nicely in KDE. >> Third, sound worked just fine on my VM's prior to an update. >> > > That's because you installed from the F12 KDE spin which had a packaging > mistake which made Phonon not use PulseAudio. As a result, Phonon would grab > the sound device directly and prevent PulseAudio from grabbing it. The > update you complain about is probably the one which fixed that issue. > (Phonon does use PulseAudio now in F12 + updates.) > It seems I may have not been clear in my original message and left it to open to interpretation. Yet I didn't say my original install was from the KDE spin. The original install was from the Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso and customized to include both GNOME and KDE. And sound worked just fine. At some point, when I wasn't paying attention, sound died. FWIW, a Ubuntu VM running pulseaudio 0.9.19 works just fine. Going to be interesting to see what happens when Ubuntu updates to 0.9.21. >> IMHO, pulseaudio is a work in progress. >> > > Almost all software is. That doesn't mean it's not already usable now. > > It is, for me, unusable if "updates" break things that used to work. -- Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Issues
On 02/02/2010 12:58 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 2 February 2010 20:32, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > >> libprojectM.so.2 is needed by package >> ultrastardx-1.1.1-1.7.20090411.fc11.i586 >> > http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rpmfusion/free/fedora/11/x86_64/ultrastardx-1.1.1-1.7.20090411.fc11.x86_64.html > > >> + This has been around for some time, and is a reoccurring theme. >> > Possibly - but that particular one is an RPMFusion problem, not a > Fedora problem, so doesn't belong in your list ;o) > > -- > Sam > Thanks for letting me know, I removed ultrastardx -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Waleed Harbi wrote: > *Here they are: > http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 That link: * only talks about PDFs. There are many other e-book formats. * is completely outdated, e.g. it lists Kpdf (which has been replaced by Okular since Fedora 9) and it claims Okular is not ready for production use (which was true back in 2006 when it was written, but not anymore now). Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? Okular can read some of the formats. But unfortunately most of them are DRM- encumbered and cannot be read with anything in Fedora. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Then it is a matter of one yum install. This example will probably cover > most common players: > > yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 > xmms-mp3 xine-lib-extras-freeworld is also a common one (e.g. KDE's Phonon uses xine- lib by default, a few other apps do too). Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A "sound" observation
Ed Greshko wrote: > First of all I don't know why you use "we". I don't think you > speak for the "Fedora Project". (OK, I'm very sure you don't speak for > the Fedora Project) I discount most of what you say. I am a Fedora KDE packager, so I say "we" when I speak of the KDE SIG in particular or Fedora packagers in general. (In this case, it was about how KDE is set up in Fedora, so I obviously meant "we" as in the Fedora KDE packagers. And yes, I'm one of the decision-makers in KDE SIG.) > Second, I know that within the Fedora KDE release pulseaudio is > installed by default. But, unlike GNOME one can easily dispense with > pulseaudio with KDE installed from the start. PulseAudio is getting more and more integrated in KDE as well. See e.g.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE_PulseAudio_Integration > Third, sound worked just fine on my VM's prior to an update. That's because you installed from the F12 KDE spin which had a packaging mistake which made Phonon not use PulseAudio. As a result, Phonon would grab the sound device directly and prevent PulseAudio from grabbing it. The update you complain about is probably the one which fixed that issue. (Phonon does use PulseAudio now in F12 + updates.) > Others have had their issues with pulse audio even without VMware. Not all of those are PulseAudio's fault. Sure, PulseAudio also has bugs, but most of the issues are caused either by broken applications or by broken ALSA drivers. Many of those issues have already been fixed. PulseAudio itself also gets many bugfixes. > IMHO, pulseaudio is a work in progress. Almost all software is. That doesn't mean it's not already usable now. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blacklisting Nouveau
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:58:53 +1100, Roger wrote: > > The original topic was to move nouveau out of the way so users can do > what they need to do without jumping through hoops as I and many others > had to do. That's not going to happen. The people that want to make drivers not included in Fedora work, need to make that happen. You should be taking that up on the rpm fusion lists, not here. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 15:02:38 -0800, "Arne Chr. Jorgensen" wrote: > > My question: what on earth was so terrible wrong with the driver under F10 ? > What was the nature of that error ? The landscape for linux graphics drivers has been changing over the last couple of years. Fedora has been following that change and support for graphics cards that used to work suffered as part of that. There are still some big changes coming. So I expect things to still be rocky at times, but when things work they should be better than ever. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
problem_with _nvidia_driver
Hi all, I recently buy an HP PC and I tried to install F12. I manage to do that only with the basic resolution 800x600 and as I saw this is a problem of the nVidia card (the model is GeFore G210 HDMI ). I follow the instructions that I found from the above sites: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html#nvidia_driver_versions http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia but the display resolution did not work. As I understand I am not the only one that had the particuillar problem. Can anyone help with that? Thanks Panos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system-config-display
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Paul Campbell wrote:
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction
> to start looking at this problem ?
>
> sudo system-config-display /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 376, in
> dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig,
> rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
> File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py", line 665,
> in __init__
>
> self.xml.get_widget("secondMonitorLabel").set_text(monitor_list[1].modelname)
> TypeError: GtkLabel.set_text() argument 1 must be string, not None
>
>
> man system-config-display
> No manual entry for system-config-display
>
> I can't find any documentation
Use either "sudo system-config-display -h" or "sudo
system-config-display --help".
By the way, this utility's response to invalid user input should not
generate a crash. Please file a bug report.
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Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > That NIH insists on using Adobe Reader is indeed disturbing. But > then, what is the alternative to Adobe Reader, if free software > apparently does not support the latest PDF? Paper, as they have used in the past? A set of regular PDFs, one per form (and the fancy JavaScript-loaded crap as an alternative for the people who can't figure it out)? There are plenty of alternatives which wouldn't lock users into proprietary software. You should not give those bureaucrats a free pass for this! (That you have to deal with it is one thing, but that you then defend their unreasonable choice doesn't make sense.) Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 and 11 KDE - No Sound
Chris Ross wrote: > Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI > Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL > device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No > output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell > PulseAudio to look for audio hardware? Do you have something running in the background which may be monopolizing your sound hardware? ALL sound-using apps MUST go through PulseAudio for things to work properly. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
hi, Been reading your dialogue regarding the subject. Having a laptop, HP 6715b, which became a *nightmare* under F10-x86_64. I have managed a lot of crappy stuff, but that was hell until the very end. A quick test of F11-686, F13-rawhide, and did install F12-x86_64, with some hesitation. I am surprised: - no flicker on screen, no lock up ( so far ), and it is running 10-25 degrees C cooler ! Fans have never been as silent ! My question: what on earth was so terrible wrong with the driver under F10 ? What was the nature of that error ? ( It did not run this nice under F11 or F13, while then I used 686. ) I am puzzled //ARNE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blacklisting Nouveau
Because the only other free driver is nv. And the consensus (at least for Fedora) is that Nouveau has passed up nv and should be the default driver. Ahem! Fedora is the creator of superb cutting edge software and I am a zealot. The Fedora user base has the problems, quite a different thing. I sincerely can't wait for Fedora to have a truly competent video driver, they will in the near future, but it's not here and now. This conversation has been attempting to raise the free and not free discussion for some time, done to death. The original topic was to move nouveau out of the way so users can do what they need to do without jumping through hoops as I and many others had to do. The discussion surrounds a driver's ability with 3D and other apps, please don't change the subject. Please, when Nouveau can expertly drive Blender and Varicad, let me know and I'll be among the first to move. I need both apps so please keep me informed of progress. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
Tim wrote: > Very easy to say, not so easy to do for some people. And even when you > have a few shops to visit, the same thing applies: > > They carry new cards, and only a few in stock. Ordering in as they > need. The don't sell old cards. You are going to get nowhere going to > a shop asking to buy a card made 18 months ago, because you need one > that old so you can have working drivers for it. The supported chipsets may be 18 months old, but the cards with them are still produced, as really cheap low-end cards with passive cooling. (Fedora 12 now supports the HD 2xxx/3xxx (r6xx) and HD 4xxx (r7xx) cards, see mesa- dri-drivers-experimental for 3D support.) Now to be fair I don't know how things are in Australia, but here in Austria (note to the geography- challenged readers: that's pretty much on the other side of the planet!) there are plenty of places selling them, several of which have stores in Vienna where I could just pick them up, no shipping. Is there really nothing older than the not-yet-supported HD 5xxx (r8xx) series being sold Down Under? Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
wireless adapter stops working after update
Some time ago the on-board wireless card of my laptop broke down. After some googling I bought a new wireless usb-device (Asus WL-167g USB WLAN adapter). Iwas said to be working out of the box. And it did. But after the first updates it stopped working. Booting the previous kernel does not help. Somehow I can't believe that the wireless card isn't supported anymore in the latest kernel. I reinstalled fedora 12 ... and the card starts working again. But after installing updates an rebooting it stops working. Any clues would be wellcome. Peter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
system-config-display
Can someone point me in the right direction
to start looking at this problem ?
sudo system-config-display /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 376, in
dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig,
rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py", line 665,
in __init__
self.xml.get_widget("secondMonitorLabel").set_text(monitor_list[1].modelname)
TypeError: GtkLabel.set_text() argument 1 must be string, not None
man system-config-display
No manual entry for system-config-display
I can't find any documentation
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Re: ext4 defaults and access time
On 2/2/10, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > There is a norelatime option, but it could be not enough. > > I had this kind of problem some time ago and Kevin Fenzi told me > how to do it: > > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121542196521553&w=2 > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121545811619620&w=2 Thanks! But those instructions mention /proc/sys/fs/default_relatime which doesn't exist here. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
Andras Simon wrote: > On 2/2/10, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> Andras Simon wrote: >>> All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. >>> Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: >> Defaults are sometimes surprising. >> Let's have a look at >> cat /proc/mount > > I think you're onto something... > > /dev/sda5 /home ext4 rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 > > I definitely don't want relatime there. Would something like > > ext4defaults,atime > > in fstab get rid of this? There is a norelatime option, but it could be not enough. I had this kind of problem some time ago and Kevin Fenzi told me how to do it: http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121542196521553&w=2 http://marc.info/?l=fedora-devel-list&m=121545811619620&w=2 Bye. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 20:54 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: > All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. > Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: > > [si...@pici uffi]$ date > Tue Feb 2 20:48:22 CET 2010 > [si...@pici uffi]$ cat clsql-uffi-loader.lisp > /dev/null > [si...@pici uffi]$ ls -lu clsql-uffi-loader.lisp > -rw-rw-r--. 1 simon simon 2995 2010-02-02 16:24 clsql-uffi-loader.lisp > > Can it be some caching issue? If so, is there a way to force ls -lu to > show the last access time, independently of whether that involves > physical access? The last access time is the last access time is the last access time. IOW there's no concept of a "physical" access time different from what ls is showing you. Caching between RAM and the physical medium is completely transparent at this level. (I note that the file mode above includes a "." so it appears to have extended attributes, if that helps at all). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? Which format? I'm given to understand that the Amazon Kindle, the B&N whatever, and the Apple iPaid tablet each use either a different format or different DRM crap embedded. Based on reports from people who have one or the other, not personal experience. I saw a reference to a program which claimed to let you buy from the Apple $tore (iTunes, iCrap?) running on Fedora. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
Andras Simon wrote: > On 2/2/10, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> Andras Simon wrote: >>> All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. >>> Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: >> Defaults are sometimes surprising. >> Let's have a look at >> cat /proc/mount > > I think you're onto something... > > /dev/sda5 /home ext4 rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 > > I definitely don't want relatime there. Would something like > > ext4defaults,atime > > in fstab get rid of this? Yes, except you don't need to include "defaults". That's just a placeholder for the case where no other options are specified since the fstab syntax requires _something_ there. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul)
Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:46 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> I understand that creating a bugzilla entry is the only way developers >>> can hear of a problem. But over and over I file a bugzilla and get no >>> response. >>> >>> On 12/08/09 I filed a bugzilla about a problem that in both Gnome and >>> Nautilus executing Places->Network reveals Windows machines on the LAN >>> but not fedora machines. This worked correctly on F11 but not on f12. >>> >>> It has been 2 months , almost, since the bugzilla and I have seen no >>> response. It is really frustrating. What is one supposed do? I have go >>> real response to this problem from the list either. >>> >> It is true that you've no gotten a response on this list as well. >> >> I currently don't have an F11 system up and running...but will try to >> get one up this week. But, I do have a question. When you open >> "Places--->Network" you'd normally see "Windows Network" and under that >> you'd find any Workgroups or Domains that have advertised their >> existence. Yes? >> >> So, what would you expect to see under "Places--->Network" with regards >> to other Fedora or Linux systems? NFS shares? FTP servers? SSHD >> servers? Or do you just expect that their existence will be noted? I >> just want to understand what you see as working correctly. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> > > Well that is a little mysterious. Under the windows network you see the > various shaes ADMIN$ C$ print$. One expects to be able to login to any > of those shares. Although I admit I have yet to make that work. No > passwd I try works. > > What I saw under F11 was icons for all the Fedora machines on the LAN > including the one I am on and I would expect to be able to open the icon > and login to the machine. You can do that using Places-> Connect to > Server but then yo need to know in advance the machines name or ip > address. Using Places->Network seems easier. I have to say that I don't see any Fedora machines on FC9, 10, 11, or 12 here, nor would I expect to unless they were running SAMBA shares or whatever has replaced that tech (haven't had to put a windows machine up here in several years). -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?
Jim wrote: > On 02/01/2010 02:19 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jim wrote: >> >> Well, wish I could be more help but this is past my expertise. The >> only thing I can think of is to check the drive for errors... >> >> To check the status: >> >> smartctl --attributes --log=selftest --quietmode=errorsonly /dev/sdc >> >> To run a test: >> >> smartctl --test=long /dev/sdc >> >> I believe it is attribute 5 that shows remapped sectors. This should >> ideally be 0 but a small number is sometimes acceptable. >> >> Richard >> > # smartctl --attributes --log=selftest --quietmode=errorsonly /dev/sdc > smartctl 5.39 2009-12-09 r2995 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-9 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net > > /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x0c0b:0xb157 (0x000)] > Smartctl: please specify device type with the -d option. > There is the heart of the problem, the USB bridge in the enclosure is of unknown type, and isn't giving proper access to the device. At this point I would probably spend a few bucks on a new enclosure (I have a bad ration of time to money), but since it invites you to specify the device type with -d, what results did you get when you provided the device type? A PATA drive is usually seen with either 'ata' or 'sat' device types, but if those fail you could try 'scsi' just for grins. I'm guessing that you will need a command line option at kernel boot time to make this work, I can't remember the details since I haven't used it in several years. You can force use of libata if you want, but you need to try some things and report the results, not just "didn't work" but some actual error messages. > > # smartctl --test=long /dev/sdc > smartctl 5.39 2009-12-09 r2995 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-9 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net > > /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x0c0b:0xb157 (0x000)] > Smartctl: please specify device type with the -d option. > > > The USB bridge ,unknown > I don't know what they are talking about, and using the -d option and > device type. > > -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 32bit support on 64bit Linux
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > There is a single yum target, that will bring in all (or most) of the > 32bit > libraries > and things that are needed to run 32bit applications on 64bit Fedora. > > It is also possible to install just the specific 32-bit libraries that > you need. That's what I did when I built ZooLib for 32-bit under > 64-bit Fedora. (http://www.zoolib.org/) > > If you're building a 32-bit program from source, just try to build it > before installing any 32-bit libraries. The link will fail because it > can't find a bunch of stuff. Try to figure out what 32-bit yum > packages satisfy just the first few complaints, then install the > packages and try again. > > After a few rounds of this you'll have pretty close to just the bare > minimum of libraries needed for that one program. > > If you have a binary executable, and not the source, then ry running > it. It won't run because it can't find a bunch of libraries. Install > the first two or three libraries that it complains about, then Lather, > Rinse, Repeat. > I have to ask, do you find it's valuable to do all this work to save a MB or two? Don't take that as a criticism, I just don't see any reason to spend the time minimizing anymore. I find the single package to be a great time saver, although I don run a 32 bit system in a VM which is useful for doing 32 bit stuff. > In general a runtime library named libfoo.so will have a yum package > called libfoo.i386 or some such, and a development library named > something like libfoo-dev.i386. You only need the "-dev" libraries if > you're developing from source - these include the header files, that > aren't needed for runtime support. > > I'll send you my bill in the mail. > > Don Quixote -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul)
Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:46 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I currently don't have an F11 system up and running...but will try to >> get one up this week. But, I do have a question. When you open >> "Places--->Network" you'd normally see "Windows Network" and under that >> you'd find any Workgroups or Domains that have advertised their >> existence. Yes? >> >> So, what would you expect to see under "Places--->Network" with regards >> to other Fedora or Linux systems? NFS shares? FTP servers? SSHD >> servers? Or do you just expect that their existence will be noted? I >> just want to understand what you see as working correctly. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> > > Well that is a little mysterious. Under the windows network you see the > various shaes ADMIN$ C$ print$. One expects to be able to login to any > of those shares. Although I admit I have yet to make that work. No > passwd I try works. > I see. Well, that is another thing. > What I saw under F11 was icons for all the Fedora machines on the LAN > including the one I am on and I would expect to be able to open the icon > and login to the machine. You can do that using Places-> Connect to > Server but then yo need to know in advance the machines name or ip > address. Using Places->Network seems easier. > OK But, I'm still not clear on one thing and I just like to make sure When you say you can see the "icons for all the Fedora machines on the LAN" you are saying you see them directly in the "Places->Network" window and not "Places->Network->Windows Network". And, when you say "login" do you mean actually login and get a shell prompt or login and see files/folders that have been exported/shared? -- As well look for a needle in a bottle of hay. -- Miguel de Cervantes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> AFAIK, nVidia is locked up in closed source licences and non-disclosure >> agreements, and that is the only reason why they don't provide specs and >> open source drivers. It appears nVidia has good will, but legal issues are >> a showstopper. > > That's bullshit. There are repeated public statements from NVidia that they > don't see any market or demand for "open source" (Free Software) drivers and > that therefore they don't care. Don't delude yourself! > You have totally confused supporting the Linux market with Open Source. The fact that you have taken an oath of whatever the software equivalent of celibacy is, and refuse to use anything you can't compile yourself is religion, not finance, and frankly many users have chosen the closed source working drivers to Open Source drivers which don't. NV does not feel that in the Linux market they would make more money, sell more hardware, with Open Source drivers than they do with the drivers they provide. They feel that the closed source drivers suffice, and they provide those. To claim that any support other than doing things your way "doesn't count" doesn't really contribute to user satisfaction. >> And the fact that they provide support next to none (of their closed >> source drivers) demonstrates that they *do* care about Linux market, and >> do take the community support seriously. > > I disagree. Providing proprietary drivers is NOT providing support to Free > Software or GNU/Linux. (In fact it's worse than doing nothing because some > people who would otherwise help the Nouveau project are content with using > the proprietary crap.) > Supporting Open Source is not the same thing as supporting Linux users. They are different approaches to selling hardware. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Issues
On 2 February 2010 20:32, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > libprojectM.so.2 is needed by package > ultrastardx-1.1.1-1.7.20090411.fc11.i586 http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rpmfusion/free/fedora/11/x86_64/ultrastardx-1.1.1-1.7.20090411.fc11.x86_64.html > + This has been around for some time, and is a reoccurring theme. Possibly - but that particular one is an RPMFusion problem, not a Fedora problem, so doesn't belong in your list ;o) -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
On 2/2/10, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Andras Simon wrote: >> All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. >> Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: > > Defaults are sometimes surprising. > Let's have a look at > cat /proc/mount I think you're onto something... /dev/sda5 /home ext4 rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 I definitely don't want relatime there. Would something like ext4defaults,atime in fstab get rid of this? Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 Issues
Updates: libmrpt-hwdrivers.so.0.7 is needed by package mrpt-monoslam-0.7.1-0.1.20090818svn1148.fc11.i586 libmrpt-core.so.0.7 is needed by package mrpt-monoslam-0.7.1-0.1.20090818svn1148.fc11.i586 libprojectM.so.2 is needed by package ultrastardx-1.1.1-1.7.20090411.fc11.i586 + This has been around for some time, and is a reoccurring theme. Firefox: + Does not display certain forum-based, forum member added images ([img]http://...[/img]). This is known to work ok with F9, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows IE/FF but not with F-10/11. Screensaver: Activating: Activate screensaver when computer is idle. Lock screen when screensaver is active. + Causes the GUI to lockout completely. Local and remote access is denied and system is totally inactive (no disk activity). + Forced power down/up is required. + Leaving both unchecked works fine. Bootup: + Cannot get proper higher screen resolution w/ Intel-945GC graphics chip unless one adds 'nomodset' to the boot kernel line. Max resolution is 1024.768, but using nomodset allows 1600x1200. FWIW, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
On 2/2/2010 1:38 PM, patrick.mor...@hp.com wrote: > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: > >>> Incidentally, that may also answer your other question about how to >>> disable local shadow file passwords. >> >> Any suggestions for migrating accounts from /etc/shadow into the LDAP >> database? I tried this LdapImport perl script but it threw a bunch of >> errors and ultimately failed: > > At the time I did the initial import here, I put together a really ugly > shell script that used a few cuts, greps and/or seds against the passwd > and shadow files to build an LDIF, and then dumped it in with an > ldapmodify command. > > It's actually easier than it sounds once you're familiar with the > posixAccount schema and which passwd attribute maps to which LDAP > attribute. This seems like something basically everyone would need when starting with LDAP. Is there a more standard way to do it? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: ext4 defaults and access time
Andras Simon wrote: > All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. > Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: Defaults are sometimes surprising. Let's have a look at cat /proc/mount -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
Hi Sean! On Tue, 02 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: > >> Any suggestions for migrating accounts from /etc/shadow into the LDAP > >> database? I tried this LdapImport perl script but it threw a bunch of > >> errors and ultimately failed: > > > > At the time I did the initial import here, I put together a really ugly > > shell script that used a few cuts, greps and/or seds against the passwd > > and shadow files to build an LDIF, and then dumped it in with an > > ldapmodify command. > > > > It's actually easier than it sounds once you're familiar with the > > posixAccount schema and which passwd attribute maps to which LDAP > > attribute. > > I only have eight or ten users who need accounts initially, we may > just have them enter their passwords by hand... > > Incidentally I did try the openldap migrate_all_online.sh script that > is recommended here: > > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:MigrateToLDAP > > But it failed with a SASL error. I suppose that might be due to my > not having ssl setup? If you got a SASL error, chances are it used the ldap[add|modify] from OpenLDAP (which is generally what you'll get if you don't specifiy a full path), If you can find where it's calling it, add "-x" to the parameters, or point it at the ldap[add|modify] provided with 389. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
>> Any suggestions for migrating accounts from /etc/shadow into the LDAP >> database? I tried this LdapImport perl script but it threw a bunch of >> errors and ultimately failed: > > At the time I did the initial import here, I put together a really ugly > shell script that used a few cuts, greps and/or seds against the passwd > and shadow files to build an LDIF, and then dumped it in with an > ldapmodify command. > > It's actually easier than it sounds once you're familiar with the > posixAccount schema and which passwd attribute maps to which LDAP > attribute. I only have eight or ten users who need accounts initially, we may just have them enter their passwords by hand... Incidentally I did try the openldap migrate_all_online.sh script that is recommended here: http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:MigrateToLDAP But it failed with a SASL error. I suppose that might be due to my not having ssl setup? -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Smartctl and SATA drives
Hi Jim, On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:16:36 -0500 Jim wrote: > FC12-x86_64/KDE > > Can you test SATA hard drives using Smartctl ? Yes, see `man smartctl` for details. > What test do you run to determine if if you have a defective drive ? I tend to monitor the "Reallocated_Sector_Ct", "Current_Pending_Sector" and "Offline_Uncorrectable" lines of `smartctl -a /dev/sda`, after running tests using "-t conveyance" for new drives, then "-t long" every week or so. You might want to configure smartd as well (see /etc/smartd.conf). F -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ext4 defaults and access time
All my partitions are ext4 and mounted with ext4 defaults from fstab. Still, sometimes it's as if noatime was used: [si...@pici uffi]$ date Tue Feb 2 20:48:22 CET 2010 [si...@pici uffi]$ cat clsql-uffi-loader.lisp > /dev/null [si...@pici uffi]$ ls -lu clsql-uffi-loader.lisp -rw-rw-r--. 1 simon simon 2995 2010-02-02 16:24 clsql-uffi-loader.lisp Can it be some caching issue? If so, is there a way to force ls -lu to show the last access time, independently of whether that involves physical access? Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video >> card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the >> computer storeassuming it has the latest and greatest video card >> from whatever manufacturer. Weird. > > "whatever manufacturer except Intel" whose desktop/laptop class GMA chips > (i.e. all except the GMA 500 / Poulsbo) all just work, even the current > latest one. > > But other than that, yes, we're saying that and it's not weird at all, it's > just how things are. Drivers don't magically appear instantly. > >> When I bought my laptop, I didn't worry about video. > > And that was your mistake. > >> It was all supposed to "just work". > > If you expect that, you need to check what hardware you're buying. > >> The good news is that now GoogleEarth runs with the stock radeon driver, >> but I can't tell you exactly when that happened because there was no big >> fanfare about it when it happened. > > Assuming it's an r5xx series card (it can't be r6xx or higher because you > said the Catalyst driver doesn't support it anymore), Fedora 9 updates / > Fedora 10. It was added in this update: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2008-July/011954.html > which says "adds r500 support" spelled out black on white in the update > notes. > > If it's an r3xx or r4xx, even earlier. Please tell us the exact model ID. > I give you a free suggestion, which developers will promptly shout down as "admitting our video support sucks," and that is to put a 2nd entry in grub.conf, label it stable graphics mode, and do whatever is needed to get the kernel to leave the video the hell alone and use vesa. I don't want to run 3D, or fancy graphics, or play games, I want to have working X, and not have it crash all the time, get kernel panics, or have to do boot time editing by hand to get X or run in runlevel 3. Current Linux video works better and better on fewer and fewer cards, and it's not just Fedora. Time to give the user an out. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: > > Incidentally, that may also answer your other question about how to > > disable local shadow file passwords. > > Any suggestions for migrating accounts from /etc/shadow into the LDAP > database? I tried this LdapImport perl script but it threw a bunch of > errors and ultimately failed: At the time I did the initial import here, I put together a really ugly shell script that used a few cuts, greps and/or seds against the passwd and shadow files to build an LDIF, and then dumped it in with an ldapmodify command. It's actually easier than it sounds once you're familiar with the posixAccount schema and which passwd attribute maps to which LDAP attribute. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +, > Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the >> latest&greatest >> in available hardware (btw, this can make sense if you don't want your >> machine >> to be obsolete by tomorrow). So when I get to choose a graphics card for my >> new shiny desktop machine, which of the two do you recommend to work better >> in >> Fedora? >> >> (1) ATI Radeon HD 5970, or >> (2) nVidia Quadro FX 5800 > > (3) Don't buy either if you are planning on using 3d graphics in Fedora right > now. > (4) Buy a second inexpensive card for use in Fedora. Or reuse one of the many > cards you have sitting around after replacing your video card every year. > Agree, buy a cheap totally unaccelerated card which you can run with the vesa driver. Video in Fedora will get better, or it will become so little used no one will care. When/if decent video support returns you can get a supported card. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
e100 error
Hi, everyone, I have one older IBM system running F11. I am trying to upgrade the video card. I bought a PNY version NVIDIA GE Force 5200 PCI board to use. When I plug it in and connect the video, the system boots and goes through the full F11 bar display, the screen goes blank and after a few seconds I get an error message: e100:eth0 NIC Link is up 100Mbps full duplex ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE):eth0: link becomes ready which flashes for a few more seconds, then becomes stable with an underscore cursor beneath it. when I attempted to Google it, All I found were references to F12 (which this machine refuses to run anyway, I'm hoping for F13 to fix that). It appears though that hitting return when you see this message in F12 will let the machine proceed. Not so, when I hit return, the cursor moves down one line but nothing further happens. The changes recommended have to do with setting some options in some of the bootscripts. Here is one thread discussing the issue: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 However, this doesn't seem to fit. The only thing changing in my system is the adding of the PCI based video card. How can that affect the hardware setup of the NIC card? Moreover, why is the renaming taking place at all to begin with? Mac addresses are supposed to be unique. Is there a manufacturer or subset of manufacturers who are not following the rules, or have the number of cards exceeded the number of available addresses? But these questions detract from my base question:: How do I get my system to work properly with the new card? The reason I am doing this is to eliminate video streaking on the subject computer which occurs with the built in intel chipset. Regards, Les H -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
Brian Mury wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at >> home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently. > > I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm curious > if you are using kernel or user space mode setting, and what you have in > your xorg.conf (if anything). > > My experience is: > > KMS: 3D works but is slow, 2D is so slow it is unusable (can't even > watch a low-def youtube video, for example). > > UMS: 2D and 3D both work at expected speeds (XAA is a bit faster than > the default EXA), but 3D often completely locks up the computer - can't > even SSH to it. > Let me jump in here and say that it is worth learning to use the watchdog timer feature, it gives you a clean shutdown if there is even a glimmer of life left in the kernel. Even when the usual sysreq magic doesn't work. I have a program I can put on a site somewhere, but it's so simple you can probably write it as fast as a download, a few lines does the job. Works for me. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
> Incidentally, that may also answer your other question about how to > disable local shadow file passwords. Any suggestions for migrating accounts from /etc/shadow into the LDAP database? I tried this LdapImport perl script but it threw a bunch of errors and ultimately failed: http://wiki.babel.com.au/index.php?area=Linux_Projects&page=LdapImport -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Blacklisting Nouveau
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> Though maybe smarter packaging by the rpm fusion people could
>> make using the proprietary nVidia drivers more newbie friendly.
> Definitely, as there is a whole lot of room for improvements (at least
> as far as I can see from my point as long term contributor to RPM Fusion
> and old maintainer of those packages back in 2006 or something). It just
> needs people that are willing to work on those improvements, which is
> something RPM Fusion lacks.
Personally, I just want to say that I'm pretty happy with the way RPM
Fusion's nvidia driver works. There've been a few problems I've had,
but none to speak of since switching to akmod-nvidia.
Blacklisting nouveau is relatively easy to do wrt adding a line to
grub. In our environment, I have a script that puppet uses to take
care of this (see below). It would be nice if the open source drivers
worked perfectly, but I'm a pragmatic user.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# black-nouveau.pl
#
# PURPOSE: Perform the necessary steps to blacklist the nouveau kernel
mod and allow the nvidia driver to work.
#
# Flag, represents whether or not any changes were made.
$update = false;
# The output which will be written out if necessary.
$output = "";
# The file that will be operated on.
$data_file="/boot/grub/grub.conf";
# Open the file, read in its lines, and close it..
open(DAT, $data_file) || die("Could not open file.");
@file_lines=;
close(DAT);
# For each line in the file...
foreach $line (@file_lines)
{
# If the file huas a root= line, but no nouveau...
if (($line =~ /root=/) and not ($line =~ /rdblacklist=nouveau/))
{
# Append the blacklist line, and set the udpate flag.
$line =~ s/(^.*$)/\1 rdblacklist=nouveau/;
$update = true;
}
# Add the line to the output.
$output .= $line;
}
# If there is an update...
if ($update eq true)
{
# Open thhe file, overwrite it, and close it.
open (DAT, ">".$data_file);
print DAT $output;
close(DAT);
}
# Run dracut.
system('dracut -f /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)');
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Smartctl and SATA drives
FC12-x86_64/KDE Can you test SATA hard drives using Smartctl ? What test do you run to determine if if you have a defective drive ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 16:08:09 AnneMarie Robinson wrote: > Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? You need a plugin appropriate for the player of your choice. They are all basically available in rpmfusion free and nonfree repositories, which you should enable ( http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration ). Then it is a matter of one yum install. This example will probably cover most common players: yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3 xmms-mp3 You can find more detailed instructions on http://www.fedorafaq.org/#mp3 HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help with... F9
--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 18:55 -0800, > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > As far as updates: If an app or utility or > library works just fine, > > no problems--they usually do from the initial > install--why be > > concerned over the latest update? But I see it > all the time. It > > must be some kind of complusive-obsessive disorder > variant. I have a > > friend, a retired career computer admin, programmer, > you name it, who > > has this disorder. It is impossible for him not > to constantly keep > > his system fully updated even if what is being updated > is rarely if > > ever needed or even used. > > It is next to impossible to avoid if you install a new > piece of > software, though. It'll depend on other more recent > files, then you > have to update those, and further, dependencies. > Which can be quite > pain when installing one new thing involves hundreds of > megs up updates. > It can be easier to just periodically keep things up to > date, to head > off that sort of thing. I was referring to unsupported versions. I have no problems with updating, per se. I'm just not fanatical about it. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 and 11 KDE - No Sound
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:39:54PM +, Chris Ross wrote: > On 02/02/2010 02:35 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Chris Ross wrote: > > > >> Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI > >> Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL > >> device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No > >> output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell > >> PulseAudio to look for audio hardware? > >> > > pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it > > back in touch with reality... > > > > try rebooting or restarting your session? > > > > > > I have done. Many times. It doesn't help. > Also have troubles getting sound working in F12 KDE. With the earlier F12 kernels I did not have sound problems. But with 2.9.31 kernels mplayer for examples stops after .1 second and I do not hear anything (from the start). (can't test older kernels anymore...) I installed the rawhide/F13 kernel 2.9.33 rc6 and mplayer continues to 'play' but I still do not hear anything. PLaying around with kmix or alsamix does not help. Then for so,e reason I killed the pulseaudio process and restarted it manually form a Kconsole. Guess what! I suddenly do get real sound! Playing youtubes with firefox still had problems (no sound and hanging movie) but after restarting firefox this problem got resolverd too! -Marcel -- == Marcel J.E. MolMESA Consulting B.V. ===-ph. +31-(0)6-54724868 P.O. Box 112 ===-mar...@mesa.nl 2630 AC Nootdorp __ www.mesa.nl ---U_n_i_x__I_n_t_e_r_n_e_t The Netherlands They couldn't think of a number, Linux user 1148 -- counter.li.org so they gave me a name! -- Rupert Hine -- www.ruperthine.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help with... F9
--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Tuesday 02 February 2010 02:55:17 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > As far as updates: If an app or utility or > library works just fine, no > > problems--they usually do from the initial > install--why be concerned over > > the latest update? But I see it all the > time. It must be some kind of > > complusive-obsessive disorder > variant. I have a friend, a retired career > > computer admin, programmer, you name it, who has > this disorder. It is > > impossible for him not to constantly keep his > system fully updated even if > > what is being updated is rarely if ever needed > or even used. > > I would call this "the geek disorder"... In a > geek-encouraging bleeding edge > distro like Fedora, I expect most of the people to behave > like this. Myself > included. :-) Sad. I understand there's no cure, and those so afflicted live quiet lives of desperation constantly waiting for updates. ;-) > Also, frequent updating occasionally provides not just > bugfixes, but also > enhanced functionality of certain components. Which comes > as a nice surprise, > especially if it was something you were missing so badly... > It's a nice > feeling when you see improvement in a working system (as > opposed to installing > a later version of the whole distro). Basically, we're > having a great time > updating software to latest&greatest! That's why we run > Fedora! ;-) You've misunderstood. My comments about updates referred to unsupported versions like F9. Just because it is no longer supported, doesn't mean it's broken and useless, and must be thrown away and replace with something new. However, I do understand the need of updating new releases. That's why when I do upgrade, I usually wait a few weeks, sometimes longer, after the initial debut. By then most, if not all, of the more nasty problems have been fixed. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 nouveau problem?
Joachim Backes wrote: > having a *little* problem with nouveau and NVIDIA FX5200 (princeton > display, 1280x1024): Under F12, it works OK - but when rebooting to > WinXP, the screen is not centered, but shifted a little bit to the left > (a small black vertical bar remains rightside). After auto tuning the > display in WinXP, and after rebooting to F12, there is the inverse > effect (small black vertical bar on the left side). Same here. The drivers from Nvidia and from the open source community use slightly different settings for screen position. Yes, it's annoying. I'm sure that could be changed with ModeLines in xorg.conf, but that wouldn't help for KMS. Maybe the developers of the open source drivers only use DVI and don't care, or they don't use Windows and never noticed the problem. > By running my screen with kmod-nvidia-173xx from rpmfusion, I get rid > from these problems. Sure, then you use Nvidia's driver with both operating systems. They use the same settings for screen position of course. Nvidia's downloadable driver for Windows allows you to shift the screen. That's the easiest solution of you use this drivers. If you use the Nvidia driver that comes with Windows then I don't know if it's possible to modify the screen position. Greetings, Andreas -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Kofler
>>> wrote:
Not really. It's a perfect example of bureaucracy gone mad. :-/
>>> Why, how would you have done it?
>> Requiring only one form? Normal, non-bureaucrat people hate filling out
>> forms, the less there is to fill out, the better! And if the forms cannot be
>> filled out by a human without software assistance, something is really,
>> really wrong! Not to mention the reliance on proprietary software, which is
>> totally inappropriate for a government office.
[...]
> That NIH insists on using Adobe Reader is indeed disturbing. But
> then, what is the alternative to Adobe Reader, if free software
> apparently does not support the latest PDF?
PDF itself is proprietary, that is the format. It is "open" in the
sense that it is published, and freely (somewhat) licensed, but it
is not public domain. I don't know of a free alternative to PDF which
is as useful.
Mike
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Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
> /etc/security/access is definitely an option, as would be putting them > all in a group and using "AllowGroups [your group]" in the sshd_config, > among other possibilities. > > Doing something group-based is typically pretty easy to manage. Thanks for the info, the sshd_config file may be the way to go. We already use cfengine so it would be fairly easy to implement and push out to all our servers. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Fedora 12 and 11 KDE - No Sound
On 02/02/2010 02:35 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Chris Ross wrote: > >> Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI >> Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL >> device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No >> output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell >> PulseAudio to look for audio hardware? >> > pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it > back in touch with reality... > > try rebooting or restarting your session? > > I have done. Many times. It doesn't help. Chris R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:13 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: > > kalarm (remind/tkremind, etc) could be set up to do quite a bit of what > > you are looking for. > > > > I use kalarm to schedule everything from paying taxes to feeding the > > fish. It works very well. > > Maemo has a nice library for alarms. libalarm. One of the things I was hoping to include in the back-end was an abstraction of different platform's alarm services. Looking around there are already quite a few and it would be nice to remove some of the complexity of dealing with those from developers wanting to port to a new platform. Cheers, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:11 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > http://www.callingallinovators.com http://www.callingallinnovators.com/ :-) > Yes, I was just stating that the global pharmacy arena with regards to > open source is dull. Gotcha, yep - seemed that way to me. > > > > That would be great! It's been a while since I've done anything > > involving a GUI but I've started having a play with the Maemo 5 SDK at > > home. > > Just hit me up on IM, maemo-developers, or whatever communication you > want to use, I'll be around. Thanks! I'm going to start work on the library back-end in the next week or two - as I mentioned, I'd like to make this easily portable to different environments but Maemo is my preferred GUI target and Fedora my preferred development environment. I will keep you posted as to how I'm getting on. Cheers, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: key logger
On 02/01/2010 07:47 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > Is there a standard keylogger for F12? I've found lkl and uberkey on the > web, but I'd prefer to stay within F12. Thanks! I brewed up a keylogger (well, command line logger) for bash. It uses the syslog mechanism (logging at "local5.info" level). I built it for CentOS 5.4 (source and binary RPMs), but I suppose I could cobble it together for F12's bash if you're in dire need. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Actually, I hadn't even heard of it! But now you got me interested!:) > http://www.callingallinovators.com > *http://www.callingallinnovators.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar server for fedora!
On 02/02/2010 03:50 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: > Does anybody know whether there is a calendar server packaged in Fedora 12+. > SOmething that talks CALDAV would be ideal. There is a "noarch" RPM here for DAViCal: http://www.davical.org/ It does depend on a SQL server to store event data. I've never used it, so don't take this as an endorsement. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed.- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
Frank Cox wrote: > kalarm (remind/tkremind, etc) could be set up to do quite a bit of what > you are looking for. > > I use kalarm to schedule everything from paying taxes to feeding the > fish. It works very well. Maemo has a nice library for alarms. libalarm. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
> #2 > a.there is also a setting in /etc/ldap.conf called pam_groupdn. This > lets you define an LDAP object with multiple membe attributes to > control who can login. I find it easy to use > b. SSH can be told to only accept logins from a posix group (same deal > just handled at a different part of the stack) One other question came to mind, and that was users with ssh keys. How will migrating to LDAP-only authentication affect them? Is there a way to continue allowing these users to use their keys for logins? -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:30 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> >> Interested in that $50k contest Nokia announced yesterday? :) > > Actually, I hadn't even heard of it! But now you got me interested! :) http://www.callingallinovators.com > > I've owned all the N-series tablets since the 800 - my 900 arrived the > other week and although it does have some rough edges I'm really pretty > happy with it (certainly, it feels a lot less "beta" than the > "professional", proprietary tool that I previously used for managing RAW > files from my cameras!). This is my first N-series tablet, but I've owned many Nokia devices over the years. > > Sorry if I wasn't clear - I'm not looking to create a pharmacy app (in > fact, there seemed already to be some medical records / stores type apps > floating around although they are not my interest here so did not look > to see if they are any good). > > This is purely for individuals to track their own medication. > > E.g. "I need to take the blue inhaler as I need it, the green and brown > ones twice a day, the yellow pills in the morning, the pink ones at > night and two of the brown ones with lunch.. now, what have I > forgotten?" :-) > > The idea'd be that you enter the drugs you're taking and the schedule > you take them on (ideally with a database that knows common pack/blister > strip sizes and regimes) and the app issues reminders, asks for > acknowledgment that you've taken the dose etc. > > I can see lots of potential for additional functionality - pretty graphs > spring instantly to mind but also reminding when you need to order new > supplies, checking off packs at the end of the day/week/month to make > sure nothing got skipped etc. Yes, I was just stating that the global pharmacy arena with regards to open source is dull. > > That would be great! It's been a while since I've done anything > involving a GUI but I've started having a play with the Maemo 5 SDK at > home. Just hit me up on IM, maemo-developers, or whatever communication you want to use, I'll be around. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:56 +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > The idea'd be that you enter the drugs you're taking and the schedule > you take them on (ideally with a database that knows common > pack/blister > strip sizes and regimes) and the app issues reminders, asks for > acknowledgment that you've taken the dose etc. kalarm (remind/tkremind, etc) could be set up to do quite a bit of what you are looking for. I use kalarm to schedule everything from paying taxes to feeding the fish. It works very well. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:30 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > I'd also loge to hear from anyone who might like to collaborate on this > > kind of project. > > Interested in that $50k contest Nokia announced yesterday? :) Actually, I hadn't even heard of it! But now you got me interested! :) I've owned all the N-series tablets since the 800 - my 900 arrived the other week and although it does have some rough edges I'm really pretty happy with it (certainly, it feels a lot less "beta" than the "professional", proprietary tool that I previously used for managing RAW files from my cameras!). > Seeing as I work in healthcare (pharmacy) myself, I have not seen any > promising open source or free applications of any value. There are so > many legal requirements, certifications, and databases that cost money > to obtain that it prohibits any open source pharmacy application from > coming into fruition, as you have found out. Sorry if I wasn't clear - I'm not looking to create a pharmacy app (in fact, there seemed already to be some medical records / stores type apps floating around although they are not my interest here so did not look to see if they are any good). This is purely for individuals to track their own medication. E.g. "I need to take the blue inhaler as I need it, the green and brown ones twice a day, the yellow pills in the morning, the pink ones at night and two of the brown ones with lunch.. now, what have I forgotten?" :-) The idea'd be that you enter the drugs you're taking and the schedule you take them on (ideally with a database that knows common pack/blister strip sizes and regimes) and the app issues reminders, asks for acknowledgment that you've taken the dose etc. I can see lots of potential for additional functionality - pretty graphs spring instantly to mind but also reminding when you need to order new supplies, checking off packs at the end of the day/week/month to make sure nothing got skipped etc. > If you want to create a Maemo app, I'd be interested in collaboration. > I've got two small packages in Fremantle already. This project should > not interfere with my no-compete clause. That would be great! It's been a while since I've done anything involving a GUI but I've started having a play with the Maemo 5 SDK at home. Cheers, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 09:21 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? I use and highly recommend fbreader. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:59 -0500, Ralph Blach wrote: > I agree this is a good endevour, and if you start it, I will participate. Great! I'll keep you posted as to how I get on. > But, IMHO, pills are the worst medication delivery method possible. > They depend on a person to take on every day, an iffy proposal for even the > most dedicated at best. That's very true and I certainly hope that we start to see some real applications of technology to help ease the burden on people who are dependent on some sort of medication in their lives. In the meantime though I think tools that help individuals to manage things better are definitely a good stop-gap. > A much better way to deliver medicine would be to have method, that be > put into the body, dispense the medicine and then disolve. Actually for some types of drugs this sort of delivery system is already available. Not quite something that dissolves in the body (rather, they're usually an oil-based or solid carrier that disperses very slowly through tissues) but depot injections offer some of these advantages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injection_%28medicine%29#Depot_injection Downside is that they are only available for quite limited ranges of drugs at this time and are not suited if there is a likelihood that the drug regime or dosing will need to be adjusted. I agree that new technology should hold some promise in this area. Cheers, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > I'd also loge to hear from anyone who might like to collaborate on this > kind of project. Interested in that $50k contest Nokia announced yesterday? :) Seeing as I work in healthcare (pharmacy) myself, I have not seen any promising open source or free applications of any value. There are so many legal requirements, certifications, and databases that cost money to obtain that it prohibits any open source pharmacy application from coming into fruition, as you have found out. If you want to create a Maemo app, I'd be interested in collaboration. I've got two small packages in Fremantle already. This project should not interfere with my no-compete clause. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
On 02/02/2010 16:08, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: > Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mp3+decoder+fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Sean Carolan wrote: > Wow, fast reply Muzzol! > >>> 2. If there are some users who only need access to a small number of >>> servers, how would you handle that situation? >> modify /etc/security/limits.conf to your needs > > What about /etc/security/access? Do you think this is the best way to > accomplish this? Assume that I have several hundred servers, but need > to grant temporary access to a developer on a few machines to look at > some log files. It seems like overkill to change a file on all > servers just to allow him access to one (or a few) servers. > >> i always create users in a default generic group, but that has nothing >> to do with your error. >>> id: cannot find name for group ID 5001 >> you probably have nsswitch.conf missconfigured. > > I assigned the gid on the LDAP server but it does not exist on the > client machine. I have a script to be able to create private groups > on all servers, was just curious how other people dealt with this > situation. I may create a generic "operators" group for new users who > need access to these systems, as you mentioned. > -- > 389 users mailing list > 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users > #2 a.there is also a setting in /etc/ldap.conf called pam_groupdn. This lets you define an LDAP object with multiple membe attributes to control who can login. I find it easy to use b. SSH can be told to only accept logins from a posix group (same deal just handled at a different part of the stack) -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open source medication adherence tools?
Brian, I agree this is a good endevour, and if you start it, I will participate. But, IMHO, pills are the worst medication delivery method possible. They depend on a person to take on every day, an iffy proposal for even the most dedicated at best. A much better way to deliver medicine would be to have method, that be put into the body, dispense the medicine and then disolve. Chip Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm looking for any open source software designed to help patients with > medication adherence (that is, sticking to and tracking a regular regime > of medications). > > I've searched around a fair bit but haven't yet come up with much; > there's some cool R-based statistical tools for analysing adherence > studies and a lot of freeware (no source) stuff that covers the kind of > reminder/patient help tool that I'm looking for but not much in the open > space for that kind of need. > > I'm interested in creating something to fill this gap - I have to admit > that my ideal target would be a Maemo application for Nokia's N-series > Linux tablets/phones but I think it makes sense to structure something > like this in a way that makes it portable to a wide range of desktop > environments and devices without too much effort. > > I'd be really interested to hear of anything that already exists in this > area - one thing I'm looking for is data to "seed" an embedded database > of common medications, pack sizes, dose schedules etc. All this > information is freely available but the versions that already exist in > electronic format that I've found all have cost and licensing conditions > that would be problematic. > > I'd also loge to hear from anyone who might like to collaborate on this > kind of project. > > Regards, > Bryn. > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 09:21 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? fbreader is one, though I've had some issues with it. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
*Here they are: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 *-- Best Wishes, Waleed Harbi Dream | Do | Be On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? > -- > === > positron router malfunction > === > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mahjongg gone missing?
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 23:43 +, N James Bridge wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 09:55 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 11:01 +, N James Bridge wrote: > > > > > > A trivial point perhaps, but mahjongg (one of the gnome-games package) > > > > > has disappeared off the games menu. > > > WorksForMe. Try yum reinstall gnome-games-extra. > > -- > > Matthew Saltzman > > I just have and it doesn't work. All the other games work, but mahjongg > is no longer in the menu and if I try to run it from a terminal I get > this: > > (mahjongg:2863): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strncasecmp: assertion `s2 != > NULL' failed > > 10 times over and then > > ** (mahjongg:2863): WARNING **: Too few tiles in map map > Segmentation fault > > The obvious interpretation of this is that it can't find something, but > I don't see how anything could get lost and not be restored by a fresh > installation. > > Are there any configuration files hidden away somewhere? There must be, > actually, since you select the tile face and the layout. But I can't > find them. Here's what's in the package: $ rpm -ql gnome-games-extra | grep mahjongg /etc/gconf/schemas/mahjongg.schemas /usr/bin/mahjongg /usr/share/applications/gnome-mahjongg.desktop /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/games /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/games/mahjongg.map /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/pixmaps /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/pixmaps/postmodern.svg /usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/pixmaps/smooth.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/gnome-mahjongg.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/gnome-mahjongg.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/gnome-mahjongg.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/gnome-mahjongg.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-mahjongg.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/gnome-mahjongg.svg /usr/share/man/man6/mahjongg.6.gz /var/lib/games/mahjongg.bridges.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.cloud.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.confounding.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.difficult.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.dragon.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.easy.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.pyramid.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.tictactoe.scores /var/lib/games/mahjongg.ziggurat.scores Your perdonal config settings are in .gconf/apps/mahjongg/%gconf.xml (found with 'find ~ -name \*mahjongg\*'). Not so hard... -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
program to read electronic books
It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on Fedora. What is is name? -- === positron router malfunction === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul)
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:46 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I understand that creating a bugzilla entry is the only way developers > > can hear of a problem. But over and over I file a bugzilla and get no > > response. > > > > On 12/08/09 I filed a bugzilla about a problem that in both Gnome and > > Nautilus executing Places->Network reveals Windows machines on the LAN > > but not fedora machines. This worked correctly on F11 but not on f12. > > > > It has been 2 months , almost, since the bugzilla and I have seen no > > response. It is really frustrating. What is one supposed do? I have go > > real response to this problem from the list either. > > > It is true that you've no gotten a response on this list as well. > > I currently don't have an F11 system up and running...but will try to > get one up this week. But, I do have a question. When you open > "Places--->Network" you'd normally see "Windows Network" and under that > you'd find any Workgroups or Domains that have advertised their > existence. Yes? > > So, what would you expect to see under "Places--->Network" with regards > to other Fedora or Linux systems? NFS shares? FTP servers? SSHD > servers? Or do you just expect that their existence will be noted? I > just want to understand what you see as working correctly. > > Thanks > > > Well that is a little mysterious. Under the windows network you see the various shaes ADMIN$ C$ print$. One expects to be able to login to any of those shares. Although I admit I have yet to make that work. No passwd I try works. What I saw under F11 was icons for all the Fedora machines on the LAN including the one I am on and I would expect to be able to open the icon and login to the machine. You can do that using Places-> Connect to Server but then yo need to know in advance the machines name or ip address. Using Places->Network seems easier. -- === Time is but the stream I go a-fishing in. -- Henry David Thoreau === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul)
Aaron Konstam wrote: > I understand that creating a bugzilla entry is the only way developers > can hear of a problem. But over and over I file a bugzilla and get no > response. > > On 12/08/09 I filed a bugzilla about a problem that in both Gnome and > Nautilus executing Places->Network reveals Windows machines on the LAN > but not fedora machines. This worked correctly on F11 but not on f12. > > It has been 2 months , almost, since the bugzilla and I have seen no > response. It is really frustrating. What is one supposed do? I have go > real response to this problem from the list either. > It is true that you've no gotten a response on this list as well. I currently don't have an F11 system up and running...but will try to get one up this week. But, I do have a question. When you open "Places--->Network" you'd normally see "Windows Network" and under that you'd find any Workgroups or Domains that have advertised their existence. Yes? So, what would you expect to see under "Places--->Network" with regards to other Fedora or Linux systems? NFS shares? FTP servers? SSHD servers? Or do you just expect that their existence will be noted? I just want to understand what you see as working correctly. Thanks -- The reason they're called wisdom teeth is that the experience makes you wise. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul) CORRECTION
I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT IS IS BUGZILLA BUG # 545535 On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 08:35 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I understand that creating a bugzilla entry is the only way developers > can hear of a problem. But over and over I file a bugzilla and get no > response. > > On 12/08/09 I filed a bugzilla about a problem that in both Gnome and > Nautilus executing Places->Network reveals Windows machines on the LAN > but not fedora machines. This worked correctly on F11 but not on f12. > > It has been 2 months , almost, since the bugzilla and I have seen no > response. It is really frustrating. What is one supposed do? I have go > real response to this problem from the list either. > -- -- === After the game the king and the pawn go in the same box. -- Italian proverb === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 and 11 KDE - No Sound
Chris Ross wrote: > Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI > Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL > device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No > output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell > PulseAudio to look for audio hardware? pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it back in touch with reality... try rebooting or restarting your session? -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
What driives me crazy about bugzilla(att: Rahul)
I understand that creating a bugzilla entry is the only way developers can hear of a problem. But over and over I file a bugzilla and get no response. On 12/08/09 I filed a bugzilla about a problem that in both Gnome and Nautilus executing Places->Network reveals Windows machines on the LAN but not fedora machines. This worked correctly on F11 but not on f12. It has been 2 months , almost, since the bugzilla and I have seen no response. It is really frustrating. What is one supposed do? I have go real response to this problem from the list either. -- === Progress might have been all right once, but it's gone on too long. -- Ogden Nash === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A "sound" observation
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> At this moment pulseaudio seems more of a PITA than anything and kind of >> crazy that a desktop environment would tie itself to it. >> > > We also default to PulseAudio in KDE, this is not just a GNOME thing, > PulseAudio is the default in Fedora in general. > > Your problems seem to be due to proprietary software (VMware) not supporting > PulseAudio properly. They're probably doing strange things to the ALSA API. > This is not a Fedora problem. > First of all I don't know why you use "we". I don't think you speak for the "Fedora Project". (OK, I'm very sure you don't speak for the Fedora Project) I discount most of what you say. Second, I know that within the Fedora KDE release pulseaudio is installed by default. But, unlike GNOME one can easily dispense with pulseaudio with KDE installed from the start. Third, sound worked just fine on my VM's prior to an update. Others have had their issues with pulse audio even without VMware. IMHO, pulseaudio is a work in progress. Last, but not least, these are my observations. I don't/didn't suggest it was any particular entities problem. Yet, I have come to the conclusion that life without pulseaudio is my preferred path. And, since GNOME seems (unless I can keep it from pulling in PA) to have requirements for pulseaudio life is better off without GNOME. Again, these are my observations and my conclusions. As time goes on, I will revisit them. -- Yow! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
Hello, On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Kofler >> wrote: >>> Not really. It's a perfect example of bureaucracy gone mad. :-/ >> >> Why, how would you have done it? > > Requiring only one form? Normal, non-bureaucrat people hate filling out > forms, the less there is to fill out, the better! And if the forms cannot be > filled out by a human without software assistance, something is really, > really wrong! Not to mention the reliance on proprietary software, which is > totally inappropriate for a government office. This NIH grant application consists of forms about several separate aspects: the research plan, the time line, the budget etc. Usually, several people - researchers and administrators - work together to fill out the forms. Some of these forms are only needed or used in particular circumstances, for example, if one of the researchers need to document their visa status, or if a project depends on specific support from elsewhere. Merging all forms into one flat form does not seem very helpful to me. Software is in principle not necessary to fill out the forms, but it helps. It copies values from one place to another and checks whether what you entered makes sense. Without software support, you would have more work and higher chances of submitting an incorrect application. People have done such applications on paper in the past, though now NIH insists electronic submission. That NIH insists on using Adobe Reader is indeed disturbing. But then, what is the alternative to Adobe Reader, if free software apparently does not support the latest PDF? Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist Systems Biology Linker at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/sybil) Turning Knowledge Data into Models Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication
Wow, fast reply Muzzol! >> 2. If there are some users who only need access to a small number of >> servers, how would you handle that situation? > modify /etc/security/limits.conf to your needs What about /etc/security/access? Do you think this is the best way to accomplish this? Assume that I have several hundred servers, but need to grant temporary access to a developer on a few machines to look at some log files. It seems like overkill to change a file on all servers just to allow him access to one (or a few) servers. > i always create users in a default generic group, but that has nothing > to do with your error. >> id: cannot find name for group ID 5001 > you probably have nsswitch.conf missconfigured. I assigned the gid on the LDAP server but it does not exist on the client machine. I have a script to be able to create private groups on all servers, was just curious how other people dealt with this situation. I may create a generic "operators" group for new users who need access to these systems, as you mentioned. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
