Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Kari Somby]

On maanantai, 1. maaliskuuta 2010 04:45:34 Barry Yu wrote:
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:03 -0800
> From: Barry Yu 
> To:   kari.so...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users
> 
> 
> On 02/28/2010 10:53 AM, Kari Somby wrote:
> >  On sunnuntai, 28. helmikuuta 2010 18:30:06 Barry Yu wrote:
> >>  Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to
> >>  GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE,
> >>  won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel
> >>  2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any
> >>  fix available or have to wait for f13
> >  
> >  Hi
> >  Could you add some more info.
> >  - When does it "freeze" (if not sure, just some explanation what
> >  happens) - Your system processor
> >  - output of #df
> >  - your /etc/grub.conf -file info
> >  - output of command #ls -la /boot/
> >  
> >  Kapi
> 
> During the startup, when I chose the top line (updated kernel version)
> on the grub menu and then hit return, the round thing at center begins
> the progress indication of booting into login window, then then window
> is black out in text mode the frozen with the cursor blinking,
> completely locked up.
> The processor is Intel Core2Duo E6750 2.66Ghz
> Out put of #df;
> [r...@cts-home1 ~]# df
> Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda1052055064   6565172  42845596  14% /
> tmpfs  2021732   340   2021392   1% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda8   303344 44371243312  16% /boot
> /dev/sdb1732572000 599620656 132951344  82%
> /media/EXT_700_Data_NTFS
> /dev/sdc197676 575901492 400858508  59%
> /media/EXT_1T_Data_NTFS_BAK
> 
> Output of /etc/grub.conf
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> #  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> #  root (hd0,7)
> #  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda10
> #  initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=2
> timeout=-1
> splashimage=(hd0,7)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE)
>  root (hd0,7)
>  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
>  initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE)
>  root (hd0,7)
>  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
>  initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> title Windows
>  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
>  chainloader +1
> ~
> ~
> Output of ls -la /boot/;
> [r...@cts-home1 ~]# ls -la /boot/
> total 33626
> dr-xr-xr-x  5 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:36 .
> dr-xr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 2010-02-28 18:17 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   103729 2010-02-19 11:22
> config-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   103728 2010-01-18 12:19
> config-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 1024 2010-01-28 22:28 efi
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:38 grub
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 12109220 2010-02-27 08:38
> initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 12030120 2010-01-28 23:10
> initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> drwx--  2 root root12288 2010-01-28 21:08 lost+found
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488800 2010-02-19 11:22
> System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488919 2010-01-18 12:19
> System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461664 2010-02-19 11:22
> vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461952 2010-01-18 12:19
> vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE

Sorry. Just noticed that you propably don't have nvidia (because you don't 
have option rdblacklist=nouveau in grub.conf).


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Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Kari Somby]

On maanantai, 1. maaliskuuta 2010 04:45:34 Barry Yu wrote:
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:03 -0800
> From: Barry Yu 
> To:   kari.so...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users
> 
> 
> On 02/28/2010 10:53 AM, Kari Somby wrote:
> >  On sunnuntai, 28. helmikuuta 2010 18:30:06 Barry Yu wrote:
> >>  Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to
> >>  GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE,
> >>  won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel
> >>  2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any
> >>  fix available or have to wait for f13
> >  
> >  Hi
> >  Could you add some more info.
> >  - When does it "freeze" (if not sure, just some explanation what
> >  happens) - Your system processor
> >  - output of #df
> >  - your /etc/grub.conf -file info
> >  - output of command #ls -la /boot/
> >  
> >  Kapi
> 
> During the startup, when I chose the top line (updated kernel version)
> on the grub menu and then hit return, the round thing at center begins
> the progress indication of booting into login window, then then window
> is black out in text mode the frozen with the cursor blinking,
> completely locked up.
> The processor is Intel Core2Duo E6750 2.66Ghz
> Out put of #df;
> [r...@cts-home1 ~]# df
> Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda1052055064   6565172  42845596  14% /
> tmpfs  2021732   340   2021392   1% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda8   303344 44371243312  16% /boot
> /dev/sdb1732572000 599620656 132951344  82%
> /media/EXT_700_Data_NTFS
> /dev/sdc197676 575901492 400858508  59%
> /media/EXT_1T_Data_NTFS_BAK
> 
> Output of /etc/grub.conf
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> #  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> #  root (hd0,7)
> #  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda10
> #  initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=2
> timeout=-1
> splashimage=(hd0,7)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE)
>  root (hd0,7)
>  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
>  initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE)
>  root (hd0,7)
>  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
>  initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> title Windows
>  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
>  chainloader +1
> ~
> ~
> Output of ls -la /boot/;
> [r...@cts-home1 ~]# ls -la /boot/
> total 33626
> dr-xr-xr-x  5 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:36 .
> dr-xr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 2010-02-28 18:17 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   103729 2010-02-19 11:22
> config-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   103728 2010-01-18 12:19
> config-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 1024 2010-01-28 22:28 efi
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:38 grub
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 12109220 2010-02-27 08:38
> initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 12030120 2010-01-28 23:10
> initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> drwx--  2 root root12288 2010-01-28 21:08 lost+found
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488800 2010-02-19 11:22
> System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488919 2010-01-18 12:19
> System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461664 2010-02-19 11:22
> vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461952 2010-01-18 12:19
> vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE

Oh, I forgot.
Do you have nvidia card and if you do, have you set your display driver to 
nvidia instead of nouveau?
In that case you need updated nvidia kernel module kmod-
nvidia-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12... (for exampe my system module name is 
kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64-190.53-1.fc12.5.x86_64)
You probably know it, but here's how to check it. Just run rpm -qa|grep nvidia  
as root. I had this problem after updating my kernel.
I solved it by adding either atrpms or rpmfusion repository to yum, because 
fedora don't have nvidia drivers.


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Re: Xorg 1.7.5, Xinerama, and LeftOf screens

[Dan Irwin]

I'm not sure what setup you have, but I can use tools inside gnome to
specify where each display sits (Preferences > Display). Intel
graphics, dell laptop, using inbuilt lcd panel and external 22 inch
lcd over vga. This is using Fedora 12. I imagine most setups don't yet
work this easily in linux.

Cheers,

Dan

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:58 AM, DJ Delorie  wrote:
>
> In case anyone else can benefit from this... I just spent 2-3 days
> hacking on the X server to get a screen to the left of the main screen
> working with Xinerama (no, I can't use Xrandr).  Here's the patch
> (yes, I'll mail it to xorg too).
>
> --- xorg-server-1.7.5/dix/events.c      2010-02-28 20:41:58.0 -0500
> +++ xorg-server-1.7.5.dj/dix/events.c   2010-02-28 20:56:52.0 -0500
> @@ -765,5 +765,5 @@
>     if (pSprite->hotShape)
>        ConfineToShape(pDev, pSprite->hotShape, &new.x, &new.y);
> -    if ((pScreen != pSprite->hotPhys.pScreen) ||
> +    if ((noPanoramiXExtension && (pScreen != pSprite->hotPhys.pScreen)) ||
>        (new.x != pSprite->hotPhys.x) || (new.y != pSprite->hotPhys.y))
>     {
> @@ -1164,6 +1164,6 @@
>        }
>  #endif
> -       pSprite->hotPhys.x = event->root_x;
> -       pSprite->hotPhys.y = event->root_y;
> +       pSprite->hotPhys.x = (signed short)event->root_x;
> +       pSprite->hotPhys.y = (signed short)event->root_y;
>        /* do motion compression, but not if from different devices */
>        if (tail &&
> @@ -1314,5 +1314,5 @@
>        syncEvents.replayDev = (DeviceIntPtr)NULL;
>
> -        w = XYToWindow(replayDev, event->root_x, event->root_y);
> +        w = XYToWindow(replayDev, (signed short)event->root_x, (signed 
> short)event->root_y);
>        for (i = 0; i < replayDev->spriteInfo->sprite->spriteTraceGood; i++)
>        {
> @@ -2821,6 +2821,6 @@
>         }
>
> -        pSprite->hot.x = ev->root_x;
> -        pSprite->hot.y = ev->root_y;
> +        pSprite->hot.x = (signed short)ev->root_x;
> +        pSprite->hot.y = (signed short)ev->root_y;
>         if (pSprite->hot.x < pSprite->physLimits.x1)
>             pSprite->hot.x = pSprite->physLimits.x1;
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pulseaudio: no sound, Fedora 12, what debugging/diagnostic info is needed to solve this problem?

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi;

pulseaudio: no sound, Fedora 12, what debugging/diagnostic info is
needed to solve this problem?

Thanks,
Ken Wolcott
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Re: Looking for advise on a special grub setup.

[Sam Varshavchik]

Steven W. Orr writes:


I just bought a new 1T SATA drive to add to the mix, and here's what I'd like
to do (but I don't understand how to do it).

I want to add the new drive as a third disk so that the system will continue
to boot off of sda. I'm current;y running F10 in 32 bit mode.

After I add the new drive, it will be seen as sdc, and I will want to install
F12 in 64 bit mode on sdc.

Q0: Can I tell the install DVD to install on sdc and to leave sda alone?


Yes.


Q1: Is it possible to have multiple bootable devices? And how do I do this?


Not easily. You have to have a second copy of grub installed on a partition 
on the new drive. Not on the new drive's master boot record, but on the 
first partition. Then, add an entry on your first grub's menu.lst to 
chain-load the second copy of grub. I don't recall the actual grub voodoo to 
do this, have to look it up. Essentially you'll initially boot into your 
first grub menu to boot your existing Fedora install, then select the grub 
menu entry to boot the second copy of grub, which would boot your second 
Fedora install.


I'd be surprised if Anaconda could digest this automatically. What I would 
do is temporary pull sda and sdb, hook up the new sdc, install Fedora on it, 
and tell Anaconda, during the install, to put grub on the partition.


Then, I'd plug the original drives in, boot the original Fedora install, 
then frob its grub menu until I get it to work.



Next, after I'm thrilled to death that sdc is how I want it to be, I want to
make a cutover so that sdc will then become the primary boot device. My
understanding is that the four SATA plugs I have on my motherboard are defined
so that one (currently sda) is considered to be the primary device.

Q2: When I do a cutover, do I have to switch the cables on the new sdc and
what is now sda? Will the new drive end up being referred as sda and the now
current sda become sdc?


Generally, the primary drive that's connected to what's considered the first 
SATA bus on your motherboard becomes sda.



Q3: Is there a grub command I need to run to make the new drive become the
bootable device? Or do I have to then reload from scratch to make it all work?


N/A

Now, for this to have any chance of working, you must use partition labels 
to:


1) Specify the root device when booting the kernel, and

2) Specify your partitions (which includes the swap partition, if any) in 
/etc/fstab


You cannot have direct references to /dev/sdc? in menu.lst or in /etc/fstab, 
because after you swap out the existing drive, the new drive becomes 
/dev/sda. I think that current Anaconda uses labels by default, if not 
you'll have to manually fix it up. Additionally, before the swap, you'll 
have to replace all refernces to (hd2,x) to (hd0,x) in menu.lst, on the new 
drive, in order for grub to figure things out. Note that some of this stuff 
may require manually rerunning /sbin/grub-install.




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Re: Looking for advise on a special grub setup.

[Kevin J. Cummings]

On 02/28/2010 10:03 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> I have two hard drives which look like this:
> 
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda6 9.4G  1.5G  7.5G  16% /
> /dev/sda11 85G   45G   36G  57% /g
> /dev/sda10 30G  6.1G   23G  22% /h
> /dev/sda5  30G   21G  7.6G  74% /home
> /dev/sda8 1.9G   36M  1.8G   2% /tmp
> /dev/sda9 9.3G  4.7G  4.1G  54% /e
> /dev/sda2  31G   19G  9.9G  66% /var
> /dev/sda3  31G  9.4G   20G  33% /usr
> /dev/sdb1 294G  244G   36G  88% /d2
> /dev/sda1 479M   52M  403M  12% /boot
> tmpfs 1.5G  472K  1.5G   1% /dev/shm
> 
> I just bought a new 1T SATA drive to add to the mix, and here's what I'd like
> to do (but I don't understand how to do it).
> 
> I want to add the new drive as a third disk so that the system will continue
> to boot off of sda. I'm current;y running F10 in 32 bit mode.
> 
> After I add the new drive, it will be seen as sdc, and I will want to install
> F12 in 64 bit mode on sdc.
> 
> Q0: Can I tell the install DVD to install on sdc and to leave sda alone?

Yes.

> Q1: Is it possible to have multiple bootable devices? And how do I do this?

You will need to add a grub entry to sda's grub menu to boot F12 from
the sdc disk.  This should be the *only* change you *need* to make to
the sda stuff.

> Next, after I'm thrilled to death that sdc is how I want it to be, I want to
> make a cutover so that sdc will then become the primary boot device. My
> understanding is that the four SATA plugs I have on my motherboard are defined
> so that one (currently sda) is considered to be the primary device.
> 
> Q2: When I do a cutover, do I have to switch the cables on the new sdc and
> what is now sda? Will the new drive end up being referred as sda and the now
> current sda become sdc?

That will depend on your hardware.  On mine I can configure it in my BIOS.

> Q3: Is there a grub command I need to run to make the new drive become the
> bootable device? Or do I have to then reload from scratch to make it all work?

You will need to install grub into the MBR of sdc when you change over.
 That will allow you to see the grub config that you install on *that*
drive (which is different from the one you installed on sda).  You may
need to set that up just before you pull sda from your configuration.

> Thanks :-)

Good Luck, and happy hacking!

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Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Sam Varshavchik]

Barry Yu writes:

During the startup, when I chose the top line (updated kernel version) 
on the grub menu and then hit return, the round thing at center begins 
the progress indication of booting into login window, then then window 
is black out in text mode the frozen with the cursor blinking, 
completely locked up.


If you're saying that it locks up at the conclusion of the boot process, and 
just before you'd normally get the gdm login screen, then try adding 
'nomodeset' boot parameter.


Otherwise, if it locks up before the boot normally finishes, press the 
escape key as soon as you get the progress indication, and see what happens.




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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Kevin Kofler]

Steve Underwood wrote:
> The standard install on x86_64 puts both the x86_64 and i386/i686 versions
> of most libraries on the machine, to maximise compatibility with any 32
> bit executables you may install for yourself.

Actually no, it doesn't, it stopped doing that long ago. You get 32-bit 
stuff only if:
* you install a 32-bit app which drags in the 32-bit libraries it needs, or
* you install the wine metapackage which will also drag in 32-bit WINE (and 
its dependencies) as it's the one you're most likely to need, or
* you changed the setting in yum.conf to make yum pull both versions by 
default.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Real Audio

[Kevin Kofler]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I still thing that RealPlayer11GOLD.bin  is the best program for
> processing audio streams.

It's proprietary software. :-(

Kevin Kofler

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Looking for advise on a special grub setup.

[Steven W. Orr]

I have two hard drives which look like this:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6 9.4G  1.5G  7.5G  16% /
/dev/sda11 85G   45G   36G  57% /g
/dev/sda10 30G  6.1G   23G  22% /h
/dev/sda5  30G   21G  7.6G  74% /home
/dev/sda8 1.9G   36M  1.8G   2% /tmp
/dev/sda9 9.3G  4.7G  4.1G  54% /e
/dev/sda2  31G   19G  9.9G  66% /var
/dev/sda3  31G  9.4G   20G  33% /usr
/dev/sdb1 294G  244G   36G  88% /d2
/dev/sda1 479M   52M  403M  12% /boot
tmpfs 1.5G  472K  1.5G   1% /dev/shm

I just bought a new 1T SATA drive to add to the mix, and here's what I'd like
to do (but I don't understand how to do it).

I want to add the new drive as a third disk so that the system will continue
to boot off of sda. I'm current;y running F10 in 32 bit mode.

After I add the new drive, it will be seen as sdc, and I will want to install
F12 in 64 bit mode on sdc.

Q0: Can I tell the install DVD to install on sdc and to leave sda alone?

Q1: Is it possible to have multiple bootable devices? And how do I do this?

Next, after I'm thrilled to death that sdc is how I want it to be, I want to
make a cutover so that sdc will then become the primary boot device. My
understanding is that the four SATA plugs I have on my motherboard are defined
so that one (currently sda) is considered to be the primary device.

Q2: When I do a cutover, do I have to switch the cables on the new sdc and
what is now sda? Will the new drive end up being referred as sda and the now
current sda become sdc?

Q3: Is there a grub command I need to run to make the new drive become the
bootable device? Or do I have to then reload from scratch to make it all work?

Thanks :-)

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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Kevin Kofler]

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> Currently wine is i686 only, so having that installed would be one way
> you could have ended up with some i686 packages installed.

It's actually both these days, but 64-bit WINE can only run 64-bit 
executables, so the default wine metapackage will drag in both the 32-bit 
and 64-bit versions.

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Fwd: Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Barry Yu]

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot
Date:   Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:03 -0800
From:   Barry Yu 
To: 	kari.so...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users 





On 02/28/2010 10:53 AM, Kari Somby wrote:

 On sunnuntai, 28. helmikuuta 2010 18:30:06 Barry Yu wrote:


 Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to
 GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE,
 won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel
 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any
 fix available or have to wait for f13


 Hi
 Could you add some more info.
 - When does it "freeze" (if not sure, just some explanation what happens)
 - Your system processor
 - output of #df
 - your /etc/grub.conf -file info
 - output of command #ls -la /boot/

 Kapi


During the startup, when I chose the top line (updated kernel version)
on the grub menu and then hit return, the round thing at center begins
the progress indication of booting into login window, then then window
is black out in text mode the frozen with the cursor blinking,
completely locked up.
The processor is Intel Core2Duo E6750 2.66Ghz
Out put of #df;
[r...@cts-home1 ~]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1052055064   6565172  42845596  14% /
tmpfs  2021732   340   2021392   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda8   303344 44371243312  16% /boot
/dev/sdb1732572000 599620656 132951344  82%
/media/EXT_700_Data_NTFS
/dev/sdc197676 575901492 400858508  59%
/media/EXT_1T_Data_NTFS_BAK

Output of /etc/grub.conf
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,7)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda10
#  initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=2
timeout=-1
splashimage=(hd0,7)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE)
root (hd0,7)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE ro
root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE)
root (hd0,7)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE ro
root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
~
~
Output of ls -la /boot/;
[r...@cts-home1 ~]# ls -la /boot/
total 33626
dr-xr-xr-x  5 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:36 .
dr-xr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 2010-02-28 18:17 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   103729 2010-02-19 11:22
config-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   103728 2010-01-18 12:19
config-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 1024 2010-01-28 22:28 efi
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:38 grub
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12109220 2010-02-27 08:38
initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12030120 2010-01-28 23:10
initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
drwx--  2 root root12288 2010-01-28 21:08 lost+found
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488800 2010-02-19 11:22
System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488919 2010-01-18 12:19
System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461664 2010-02-19 11:22
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461952 2010-01-18 12:19
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE




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Re: akonadi startup errors

[Kevin Kofler]

Dave Stevens wrote:
> I got a similar (or perhaps the same) issue and at this address:
> 
> http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Nepomuk_Indexing_Agents_have_been_Disabled
> 
> is a little box of three command line texts that worked for me. Not
> necessarily a permanent fix but I can now use my pop client (kmail) again.

These command-line texts are actually awfully bad advice for most users! 
They solve the problem for users of KDE 4.4 prereleases who were already 
using Nepomuk with an old Virtuoso. But the reason most of you are seeing 
that error message is entirely different: you just have Nepomuk disabled in 
System Settings (under Desktop Search), please enable it there. These 
instructions will NOT solve your problem permanently as they only start 
Nepomuk in the current session (in fact they assume it's already enabled, 
just not working due to the Virtuoso migration which isn't affecting you at 
all).

I'm adding a paragraph to the userbase.kde.org wiki to make this clear. (But 
I've been trying to explain that to Anne Wilson all this time. :-( )

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Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Barry Yu]

On 02/28/2010 10:53 AM, Kari Somby wrote:
> On sunnuntai, 28. helmikuuta 2010 18:30:06 Barry Yu wrote:
>
>> Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to
>> GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE,
>> won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel
>> 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any
>> fix available or have to wait for f13
>>  
> Hi
> Could you add some more info.
> - When does it "freeze" (if not sure, just some explanation what happens)
> - Your system processor
> - output of #df
> - your /etc/grub.conf -file info
> - output of command #ls -la /boot/
>
> Kapi
>
During the startup, when I chose the top line (updated kernel version) 
on the grub menu and then hit return, the round thing at center begins 
the progress indication of booting into login window, then then window 
is black out in text mode the frozen with the cursor blinking, 
completely locked up.
The processor is Intel Core2Duo E6750 2.66Ghz
Out put of #df;
[r...@cts-home1 ~]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1052055064   6565172  42845596  14% /
tmpfs  2021732   340   2021392   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda8   303344 44371243312  16% /boot
/dev/sdb1732572000 599620656 132951344  82% 
/media/EXT_700_Data_NTFS
/dev/sdc197676 575901492 400858508  59% 
/media/EXT_1T_Data_NTFS_BAK

Output of /etc/grub.conf
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,7)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda10
#  initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=2
timeout=-1
splashimage=(hd0,7)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE)
 root (hd0,7)
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE ro 
root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
 initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE)
 root (hd0,7)
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE ro 
root=UUID=53830302-bee4-48dd-88c4-bc7eaae75454  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
 initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
title Windows
 rootnoverify (hd0,0)
 chainloader +1
~
~
Output of ls -la /boot/;
[r...@cts-home1 ~]# ls -la /boot/
total 33626
dr-xr-xr-x  5 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:36 .
dr-xr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 2010-02-28 18:17 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   103729 2010-02-19 11:22 
config-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   103728 2010-01-18 12:19 
config-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 1024 2010-01-28 22:28 efi
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2010-02-28 18:38 grub
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12109220 2010-02-27 08:38 
initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.img
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12030120 2010-01-28 23:10 
initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
drwx--  2 root root12288 2010-01-28 21:08 lost+found
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488800 2010-02-19 11:22 
System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  1488919 2010-01-18 12:19 
System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461664 2010-02-19 11:22 
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3461952 2010-01-18 12:19 
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE



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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Kevin Kofler]

Dave Stevens wrote:
> I don't know how many subscribers there are to this list and in any
> case do not feel comforted to hear that mine may be a corner case. I
> thought at one point that maybe I'd try removing and reinstalling
> akonadi. I saw a humongous list of apps that would be removed for
> dependencies. I'd presumably have to install them all again as well as
> akonadi. I didn't do it. But it pointed out to me the centrality of
> this software to a lot of K work. If it's so central this reinforces
> the case for solid testing.

Removing and reinstalling usually doesn't solve anything anyway, as all the 
settings are in your home directory, not in the package.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Kevin Kofler]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Let me see... System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search -> Basic
> Settings, and there you need to enable Nepomuk Semantik Desktop, and maybe
> Strigi Desktop File Indexer (just check the two checkboxes present).

Actually only the first one is required for Akonadi to be happy, and in fact 
I'd recommend NOT to check the Strigi one (or to disable it again if you 
already enabled it) because that indexes your files in the background and 
can cause quite some CPU and I/O activity which is of no use to you if you 
don't use the resulting indexes.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Kevin Kofler]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> I am yet to see any problem with KMail/akonadi/nepomuk on this fully
> updated F12/64bit/KDE

Same here (except 32-bit as this is an old P4 Northwood). I did get the 
Akonadi warning about Nepomuk being disabled, but that's just a warning, and 
I just enabled Nepomuk in System Settings and then the warning was gone, no 
further issues.

Now as one of the packagers I'm not really the average user. :-) But we've 
had several similar positive reports from "normal" users.

It's quite strange and unfortunate that some users are running into 
problems, but I really don't understand why. :-( Normally it just works!

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Xorg 1.7.5, Xinerama, and LeftOf screens

[DJ Delorie]

In case anyone else can benefit from this... I just spent 2-3 days
hacking on the X server to get a screen to the left of the main screen
working with Xinerama (no, I can't use Xrandr).  Here's the patch
(yes, I'll mail it to xorg too).

--- xorg-server-1.7.5/dix/events.c  2010-02-28 20:41:58.0 -0500
+++ xorg-server-1.7.5.dj/dix/events.c   2010-02-28 20:56:52.0 -0500
@@ -765,5 +765,5 @@
 if (pSprite->hotShape)
ConfineToShape(pDev, pSprite->hotShape, &new.x, &new.y);
-if ((pScreen != pSprite->hotPhys.pScreen) ||
+if ((noPanoramiXExtension && (pScreen != pSprite->hotPhys.pScreen)) ||
(new.x != pSprite->hotPhys.x) || (new.y != pSprite->hotPhys.y))
 {
@@ -1164,6 +1164,6 @@
}
 #endif
-   pSprite->hotPhys.x = event->root_x;
-   pSprite->hotPhys.y = event->root_y;
+   pSprite->hotPhys.x = (signed short)event->root_x;
+   pSprite->hotPhys.y = (signed short)event->root_y;
/* do motion compression, but not if from different devices */
if (tail &&
@@ -1314,5 +1314,5 @@
syncEvents.replayDev = (DeviceIntPtr)NULL;
 
-w = XYToWindow(replayDev, event->root_x, event->root_y);
+w = XYToWindow(replayDev, (signed short)event->root_x, (signed 
short)event->root_y);
for (i = 0; i < replayDev->spriteInfo->sprite->spriteTraceGood; i++)
{
@@ -2821,6 +2821,6 @@
 }
 
-pSprite->hot.x = ev->root_x;
-pSprite->hot.y = ev->root_y;
+pSprite->hot.x = (signed short)ev->root_x;
+pSprite->hot.y = (signed short)ev->root_y;
 if (pSprite->hot.x < pSprite->physLimits.x1)
 pSprite->hot.x = pSprite->physLimits.x1;
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Re: Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:21:29 -0600
Styma, Robert E (Robert) wrote:

> I appreciate any time and help which can be offered.

Getting X to pay attention to a custom setting has
become increasingly difficult. They ignored EDID monitor
info for 20 years, then instantly transitioned to ignoring
user specified settings. I waged a battle several releases
ago documented here:

http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/easy-linux.html

I doubt any of the specific things I found will help, but
perhaps the general technique will work: Look at the xorg
log file for the message that says why it ignored your setting,
then look through the source of the X server and driver for
your video card to see where it prints that message and if
there is some setting you can change in xorg.conf to make
it get farther. Iterate till success or you throw yourself
off a high building :-).

Or if you really want to perform a service for the linux
community, you could travel the incredibly steep learning
curve on EDID and xorg software and provide a new module
for X that lets you plug in custom EDID info to override
the stuff it tries to get from the monitor (shouldn't take more
the 3 or 4 years to come up to speed...)
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Re: NetworkManager 0.8?

[Chris Smart]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Mike Chambers  wrote:
>
> Should be.  But you can d/l it straight from that, just get all the deps
> you need to go with it and your off and running.

Cool. Yep, thanks again.

-c
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Re: NetworkManager 0.8?

[Mike Chambers]

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:06 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mike Chambers  wrote:
> >
> > Yep, koji has it built, just not prolly out to the mirrors yet, but you
> > can download it from below..
> 
> Thanks Mike. So does this mean that 0.8 will be pushed out as part of
> a regular 12 update?

Should be.  But you can d/l it straight from that, just get all the deps
you need to go with it and your off and running.

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Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution

[Styma, Robert E (Robert)]

Hi,
  I've been looking at this for some time in both the
archives of the list and the web in general.  The problem
is that when my Fedora 12 machine is connected though the
KVM (Apex Outlook 8 port) the monitor shows up as "Unknown"
and the resolution is limited to 800x600.

If I plug the monitor directly into the machine, it resolves
just fine and I have the full range of resolutions.

I tried an number of things so far and the one which seemed
most promising was to plug the monitor directly into the 
machine and go to run level 3.  I then ran "xorg -configure"
which created /root/xorg.conf.new (I may be remembering the
syntax of the command incorrectly).  I copied that to
/etc/X11/xorg.conf and uncommented the NoDDC option with the syntax:
Option "NoDDC"  "True"  

Unfortunately the results are unchanged.  The Xorg.0.log appears
to show that the xorg.conf file is being read, but it goes out
and probes the monitor anyway.

http://www.styma.org/xorg.conf

http://www.styma.org/Xorg.0.log

I have put the xorg.conf file and Xorg.0.log out at my web
site in the hope someone can give me a pointer on how to
make X use what I tell it in the xorg.conf file and not
do the probes itself.  Note that my Fedora 6 machine, Redhat 9
machine, sparc 20, and assorted Windows machines work
fine.

I appreciate any time and help which can be offered.

Bob Styma



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Re: NetworkManager 0.8?

[Chris Smart]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mike Chambers  wrote:
>
> Yep, koji has it built, just not prolly out to the mirrors yet, but you
> can download it from below..

Thanks Mike. So does this mean that 0.8 will be pushed out as part of
a regular 12 update?

-c
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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Bill Davidsen]

Alan Cox wrote:
>>> I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
>>> Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
>>> I'm not using that feature).
> 
> The IT8212 is a PATA controller not SATA. I guess they may have wired
> SATA bridges to it.
> 
>> machine I had to get the driver from the mfg web page and compile it
>> myself. But later (I think it was at the Centos/RHEL5 transition) I found
>> that there was a working driver in the system. So, I'd expect that Fedora
>> 12 would have it built in too.
> 
> It does. One thing worth noting is that the chip has two modes. In the
> RAID mode it doesn't support CD-ROM devices but handles basic raid stuff
> itself via its embedded microcontroller. In non-RAID mode it behaves
> exactly like a standard IDE controller. Both modes are supported. RAID 0
> is generally best done using software RAID in Linux, RAID 1 there are
> advantages to doing it either way. Some of the RAID firmwares are a bit
> flakey so if you get a problem boot it with the device in non-RAID mode.
> (if the BIOS won't let you set it then try 'pata_it821x.noraid=1' as a
> boot option.
> 
Thanks, that sounds like a good way to get one of these into JBOD mode when the 
BIOS is a POS (r).

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Re: Setting custom screen resolution

[Bill Davidsen]

Stefano Cavallari wrote:
> On Thursday 25 February 2010 18:17:55 Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> I remember there being a app which helped generate custom parameters for
>> video drivers. I would like to get some custom resolutions:
>> 768x12426
>> 900x14562
>>1024x16568
>>1920x1186
>>1280x791
>>1024x632
>>
>> Does anyone have a low effort way to generate mode lines?
> cvt ?
> 
That's the one I was remembering. Thanks.

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Re: change HDD without Re-installing Fedora 12 ..!!!!

[Bill Davidsen]

gary artim wrote:
> Just uses create a mirror of a system I'm running. May help?! -- gary
> 
This certainly works, but what I was mentioning to the O.P. was that at the 
mkfs 
step, there are options which can improve performance, particularly with ext4 
and TB+ filesystems. But this is perfectly functional, and will allow for the 
resize.

> ## Add the new disk to the system
> this example assumes a /dev/sda and (new) /dev/sdb
> sda has 3 partitions, 1 swap, /boot, /. / and /boot are ext3 fstype.
> 
> ## create new partition on new disk
> 
> parted (you need to set the partition type as gpt)
> mkpart
> ## (model after target disk only larger, note: change the names (labels)
> ##  create 3 partition /, /boot, swap)
> 
> ## make filesystem and copy
> 
> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb3
> mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt
> cd /
> find . -xdev | cpio -pdumv /mnt
> umount /mnt
> 
> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> cd /boot
> find . -xdev | cpio -pdumv /mnt
> umount /mnt
> 
> ## mbr copy
> 
> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1
> 
> ## fix grub
> ## boot fc11 recovery dvd
> ## (need newer grub for gpt partition tables)
> ## assumes your first partition has grub installed on it
> grub
> root (hd0,0)
> setup (hd0)
> exit
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
>> stefan riemens wrote:
>>> I use plain and simple dd from a livecd for this purpose.. Make sure
>>> you get the devices correct though! After dd has finished, you can use
>>> gparted to grow you partitions (or system-config-lvm in case of lvm).
>>> Alternatively, if you want to rearrange your partitions, you could
>>> create a partition table seperately, and then copy individual
>>> partiations over using dd. For that to work however, I suspect you
>>> need to make sure you only have a partition table, rather then
>>> complete filesystems.
>>>
>> You have missed the point of the more complex process I described, a dd copy
>> gets you no better than you had (slowly). By tuning the filesystem options to
>> the intended use a significant improvement in performance can be obtained.
>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> 2010/2/20, Bill Davidsen :
 Jatin K wrote:
> Dear list
>
> I'm using FC 12 x86_64 on my dell vostro 1520 notebook  with 160GB hdd
> installed in it , now I want to upgrade the hdd from 160GB  to 320GB
> 7200 RPM
>
> is it possible to transfer fedora 12 from one hdd to another ?? I dont
> want to re-install it as lots of software and configurations are there
> in old one
>
> is there any  way like ghost ( like in M$ environment ) for Linux or may
> be something like that
>
 If you just want more space, there are several things already mentioned
 which
 will work. If you want to get best performance you will have to manually
 build
 the new layout. If you have some application or data which is taking most 
 of
 the
 space, like MP3, flash clips, pictures or movies, you will get better
 performance putting them in a filesystem tuned to the file size involved,
 and if
 you have a huge number of small files you might consider a filesystem other
 than
 ext4 default, either something else or some of the neat extended options
 which
 can make things faster.

 For "more of the same" there are a number of solutions, read the 
 suggestions
 you
 have and choose.


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Re: NetworkManager 0.8?

[Mike Chambers]

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:24 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Chris Smart  
> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > Is there an official/unofficial F12 repository which has
> > Networkmanager 0.8 installed? My uni wireless is Windows based and
> > doesn't work with 0.7. Apparently this is working in 0.8.
> 
> By "uni" I mean "university"..

Yep, koji has it built, just not prolly out to the mirrors yet, but you
can download it from below..

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=157530

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Re: NetworkManager 0.8?

[Chris Smart]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:
> Greetings,
> Is there an official/unofficial F12 repository which has
> Networkmanager 0.8 installed? My uni wireless is Windows based and
> doesn't work with 0.7. Apparently this is working in 0.8.

By "uni" I mean "university"..

-c
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NetworkManager 0.8?

[Chris Smart]

Greetings,
Is there an official/unofficial F12 repository which has
Networkmanager 0.8 installed? My uni wireless is Windows based and
doesn't work with 0.7. Apparently this is working in 0.8.

I'd rather not have to build it myself, if there's a repo I can add.

Thanks,
-c
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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Iain Davis]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Alan Cox  wrote:
>> > I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
>> > Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
>> > I'm not using that feature).
>
> The IT8212 is a PATA controller not SATA. I guess they may have wired
> SATA bridges to it.

I should have clued in when you said this, but I didn't until I was
messing about in the case (prompted by Roger's comments about drive
searching):

The drive is NOT SATA. I relied on my memory of what I had done to the
hardware a couple of years back...and was completely wrong. I thought
I had put in a SATA drive & controller, but in fact it was this IT8212
PATA controller and the Western Digital WD1600JB (Caviar). A EIDE
drive. I guess I merely dreamed that it was a SATA controller/drive.
:)

So I mis-represented my problem in that respect, my apologies!

So far, I've not resolved the problem, though. I've so far tried
Alan's two suggestions and Roger's:

* I made sure the controller was in IDE mode (I _believe_ it was
before, but the controller's bios seems to default to RAID 0, rather
than what you had set the mode to, so I can't be sure)
* I tried the 'pata_it821x.noraid=1' boot option.
* Disabling any drives besides the DVD-ROM and the Caviar HDD. (Which
the only thing left was the floppy drive).

I'm going more closely examine how I have the hardware put together,
perhaps something will jump out at me.

Oh! One other thing I tried. I had a copy of Slackware 12.x laying
around, and experimentally booted up with slackware and took a look
with cfdisk, and I could see the drive. What I take from that is that
something about my hardware and the Fedora installer isn't playing
nice together and I just have to track down what...

Thanks again to the three of you (Fred, Alan and Roger) for your help.

Iain
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F11: Latest Sagator update blew up.

[Daniel B. Thurman]

FWIW, here is the sagator update problem:

Running Transaction
  Installing :
sagator-core-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch 1/4
Error unpacking rpm package sagator-core-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/sagator: cpio:
lsetfilecon
  Installing :
sagator-selinux-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch  2/4
Error unpacking rpm package sagator-selinux-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/sagator/selinux:
cpio: lsetfilecon
  Installing :
sagator-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch  3/4
  Installing :
sagator-webq-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch 4/4
Error unpacking rpm package sagator-webq-1.2.0-1.fc11.noarch
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/sagator/srv/web:
cpio: lsetfilecon

Installed:
  sagator.noarch
0:1.2.0-1.fc11

Failed:
  sagator-core.noarch 0:1.2.0-1.fc11sagator-selinux.noarch
0:1.2.0-1.fc11  
  sagator-webq.noarch 0:1.2.0-1.fc11  


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Re: openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[Tony Nelson]

On 10-02-28 06:02:44, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for
> openoffice
> 
> cat /etc/redhat-release
> Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
> 
> "rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing
 ...

Not surprising, as no output can ever result from that command.  Try 
again more carefully -- assuming you have already installed OOo via 
yum/rpm.

If you want to install it new, use yum instead of rpm.  rpm only looks 
at your installed packages.

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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Roger]

On 03/01/2010 02:13 AM, Iain Davis wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
> Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
> I'm not using that feature).
>
> The OS on the machine is Windows XP, but I'll be wiping that out and
> replacing it with Fedora 12 Core. However, when I boot from the Fedora
> 12 DVD and run the installer, I reach the point where you select the
> language, U.S. English, click next and it pops up a micro-dialog
> saying its searching for disk drives...which it sits on for a long
> while. Then the dialog goes away...but it doesn't progress to the next
> screen.
>
> I'm currently assuming that it can't find the SATA drive, but I was
> hoping for some help, since I'm not comfortable with how Fedora's
> install process works.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iain
>
Iain
I had that problem and found that it was searching for a floppy drive 
and another drive that had been removed from the system.
I went into the bios  at start up and made sure the floppy and 
drives were set to none except for the drive I wanted to install to.
Install went very fast after that.
Roger
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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 18:05 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: 
> On Saturday 27 February 2010 05:24:32 pm bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM, William Case  wrote:
> > > I am using a *fc12.x86_64 machine.  I just now upgraded several packages
> > > with yum (yumex) and noticed several i686 packages being upgraded as
> > > well.  Is this normal?  Are some packages I have using i686 when I
> > > should have only *.86_64 on my machine?  Should I remove ALL i686
> > > packages or just leave them alone?  I am not overly concerned; just
> > > wondering.
> >
> > as far as i know.. there is no true, only x64 OS from the redhat
> > tree... although i think solaris has an actual tryu 64 bit OS...
> > 
> > the 64 bit OS linux from redhat (fedora/centos/rhel/etc.. ) comes with
> > a combination if i recall...
> 
> No, this is not true in general. The presence of i686 packages on a x86_64 
> system depends on what you have installed, and is not mandatory.
> 
> When F12 came out, I did a clean 64bit install, and had *zero* 32bit 
> packages. 
> I only tainted this with 32bit dependencies for skype, since there is no 
> 64bit 
> version of it (yet). Later on I tainted it again when installing dependencies 
>
> for Wolfram Mathematica package I use.
> 
> If there weren't for closed source software which depends on 32bit libraries, 
> I'd be having a clean 64bit-only system.

It used to be the case that x86_64 ("multilib") installations installed
many i386 libraries by default.  More recent versions (since F10,
maybe?) only install i386 if needed by 32-bit executables.

> 
> A similar situation is probably for centos/rhel as well (although I am not 
> sure).

I think RHEL5 came out before this change in policy, so it shouldn't be
surprising to find i386 libs on RHEL/CentOS multilib installs.  It
should be OK to remove them if they aren't needed to support particular
32-bit executables.

BTW, PPC64 installations *should* have 32-bit libs.  On PPC64, you want
32-bit userland binaries whenever possible (i.e., if you don't need
64-bit ints or pointers), because on PPC there are no additional 64-bit
registers to offset the loss in performance due to 64-bit memory
transfers.

> 
> > leave them alone!!!
> 
> I agree. If you have 32bit packages on a (cleanly installed) 64bit system, 
> then they are there probably because something depends on them. Removing them 
> with yum might give you a hint what app needs them, and could break it if you 
> insist.
> 
> If you have upgraded to F12 from F11 or so, there might be stale 32bit 
> packages which are not needed anymore (like ndiswrapper, or was it 
> nspluginwrapper, or...?). In that case it is probably safe to remove them.
> 
> Yum is your friend. :-)
> 
> Best, :-)
> Marko
> 
> 

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Re: Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

[Marcel Rieux]

Hi Ranjan!

If you ever come up with a suggestion or other info requests, don't
despair if I don't answer. I'm switching provider and might be offline
for a few days.
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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen  wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:08:38AM -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen  wrote:
>>
>> Ooops! Maybe the discussion is not over :)
>>
>> I understand not much of this, so let me try to sum this up in a
>> know-nothing friendly way.
>>
>> They use nvidia multi gpu video cards for routing. Hence, they don't
>> face the interrupts problems so soon.
>>
>
> Uhm, no, they didn't use video cards.
>
> They used normal Asus P6T6 desktop motherboard, which has additional PCI-e 
> slots
> on the Nvidia NF200 PCI Express fanout switch chip (which is connected to the 
> Intel X58 chipset).

As you can see, all this discussion is beyond my very limited competences.

Thanks for your answer.
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Mike Cloaked :

>
>
> Dave Stevens-2 wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am absolutely on Mike's side on this one. I use Kmail exclusively
>> and only after extensive testing, it has the features I want and use
>> and has always been solid. But it HAS TO WORK. Full time, all the
>> time, I live by my mail. I have been able to use the workaround Anne
>> Wilson pointed me to but that is one session only, if I quit kmail and
>> start it again I'm back at square zero. I'm writing this using my
>> webmail client because my system will come to its knees if I fire up
>> kmail. Changing clients is a HUGE pain in the ass and there seem to
>> have been no subsequent updates that have any relevance. Extremely
>> disappointing and I still don't have access to my addressbook, even
>> after trying to follow up on tips presented in other threads.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
> In my case it was a clean f11 installed system that was fully updated.


yes, the same for me, F11, up to date. I use the gnome desktop and  
pretty much only kmail out of the k apps.


  Only
> a month ago was kmail used for the first time in a new user area on that
> machine and no other user on the machine was using kmail, and the way it was
> initiated was that kmail was fired up and a new pop account to a remote mail
> server set up. Address book entries were imported from an ldif file from
> another system, and a few setting changes made, with some additional folders
> set for local storage. That was it. The system was working perfectly until
> the kde update to 4.4 and then a day later the mail went south big time.
> Others have commented that if kmail was running at the time of the update
> this may have mattered - if that is the case then the update was flawed in
> its design.


agreed, surely it's reasonable to expect better performance thatn  
that. If I want to be a beta tester I'll say so.


  The system should have continued to run and when kmail was
> restarted it should have "just worked" - it did not.
>
> It is possible that only one or two people had any problem at all with their
> updates and were running kmail during their update, and maybe the few who
> reported in this forum were the only ones that had any problems at all!
> (Tongue removed from cheek!)

I don't know how many subscribers there are to this list and in any  
case do not feel comforted to hear that mine may be a corner case. I  
thought at one point that maybe I'd try removing and reinstalling  
akonadi. I saw a humongous list of apps that would be removed for  
dependencies. I'd presumably have to install them all again as well as  
akonadi. I didn't do it. But it pointed out to me the centrality of  
this software to a lot of K work. If it's so central this reinforces  
the case for solid testing.

>
> Anyway perhaps someone will find out what happened to the few is us "corner
> cases" id due course.
>
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Mike Cloaked]

Dave Stevens-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> I am absolutely on Mike's side on this one. I use Kmail exclusively  
> and only after extensive testing, it has the features I want and use  
> and has always been solid. But it HAS TO WORK. Full time, all the  
> time, I live by my mail. I have been able to use the workaround Anne  
> Wilson pointed me to but that is one session only, if I quit kmail and  
> start it again I'm back at square zero. I'm writing this using my  
> webmail client because my system will come to its knees if I fire up  
> kmail. Changing clients is a HUGE pain in the ass and there seem to  
> have been no subsequent updates that have any relevance. Extremely  
> disappointing and I still don't have access to my addressbook, even  
> after trying to follow up on tips presented in other threads.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 

In my case it was a clean f11 installed system that was fully updated. Only
a month ago was kmail used for the first time in a new user area on that
machine and no other user on the machine was using kmail, and the way it was
initiated was that kmail was fired up and a new pop account to a remote mail
server set up. Address book entries were imported from an ldif file from
another system, and a few setting changes made, with some additional folders
set for local storage. That was it. The system was working perfectly until
the kde update to 4.4 and then a day later the mail went south big time. 
Others have commented that if kmail was running at the time of the update
this may have mattered - if that is the case then the update was flawed in
its design. The system should have continued to run and when kmail was
restarted it should have "just worked" - it did not.  

It is possible that only one or two people had any problem at all with their
updates and were running kmail during their update, and maybe the few who
reported in this forum were the only ones that had any problems at all!
(Tongue removed from cheek!)

Anyway perhaps someone will find out what happened to the few is us "corner
cases" id due course.

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting John Austin :

> On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 18:25 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> On Saturday 27 February 2010 05:39:26 pm Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> > I am afraid that I have lost patience with this.  As far as my own
>> > view goes - mail is one of the few absolutely essential functions of
>> > any computer system/desktop/laptop/netboook, and any update that
>> > breaks a working mail setup is not excusable.  Any update to email
>> > systems should be very carefully and thoroughly checked in testing
>> > before it goes live - period.
>> >
>> > I have abandoned kmail and it would take a lot to get me back to it
>> > now. I now use Thunderbird exclusively - maybe other people will stay
>> > with kmail if that has been their favourite client up till now and
>> > hope that the problems get solved.  However I now do what Mail-Lists
>> > does and run a dovecot imap server on every machine - and run a filter
>> > to move all incoming mail from the external server (pop) to the local
>> > imap server - and that way if there is a problem with the email client
>> > then I can just switch to another client and still see all the same
>> > mail very simply indeed.  Also some email clients have better specific
>> > features than others and in the even of a serious disaster such as
>> > appears to have happened with the akonadi/nepomuk/kmail fiasco then at
>> > least I can simply close down kmail and open up Thunderbird and I am
>> > back in business - who knows how many people may never return to kmail
>> > after their experiences this week?


I am absolutely on Mike's side on this one. I use Kmail exclusively  
and only after extensive testing, it has the features I want and use  
and has always been solid. But it HAS TO WORK. Full time, all the  
time, I live by my mail. I have been able to use the workaround Anne  
Wilson pointed me to but that is one session only, if I quit kmail and  
start it again I'm back at square zero. I'm writing this using my  
webmail client because my system will come to its knees if I fire up  
kmail. Changing clients is a HUGE pain in the ass and there seem to  
have been no subsequent updates that have any relevance. Extremely  
disappointing and I still don't have access to my addressbook, even  
after trying to follow up on tips presented in other threads.

Dave

>>
>> I am yet to see any problem with KMail/akonadi/nepomuk on this fully updated
>> F12/64bit/KDE. Everything works as expected, and my KMail experience has
>> actually improved since KDE4.4  update came out. It starts faster, is more
>> responsive, and font size choices are more eye-friendly.
>>
>> The fiasco you talk about seems to have hit only a couple of  
>> people. My guess
>> is that this has to do something with your own (customized?)
>> environment/system/mysql/whatever, and you have hit some untested corner-
>> case... In general KMail in KDE4.4 apparently Just Works.
>>
>> This very e-mail is being written in KMail. ;-)
>>
>> Best, :-)
>> Marko
>>
> Hi
>
> There is most definitely a problem somewhere with kmail but appears to
> be non-fatal for me
>
> After a reboot when opening an email file a message saying Akonadi
> is being started followed by a popup about Nepomuk (attached)
>
> After that kmail still seems to view email files OK which is all I use
> it for.
>
> I am using fully update F12
> Linux fuerte 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Feb 19 18:55:03
> UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> KDM and XFCE
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: firefox / rhythmbox sound issues

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sunday 28 February 2010 04:33:02 pm Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Sunday 28 February 2010 16:49, Max Pyziur wrote:
> > I've noticed that when I have firefox open (haven't checked this w/ other
> > browsers) and have watched/listened to a file with sound, I can't later
> > open rhythmbox and listen to a sound file or podcast.
> > 
> > Is this a configuration issue where both apps can be open and used at
> > least alternately, if not concurrently?

This should be a non-issue if you are running pulseaudio. Is something not 
working on that end?
 
> I think that, that is a flash issue, where when you've finished listening
> to something, flash insists on hanging on to /dev/dsp, thus stopping other
> sound apps from playing.
> 
[snip]
> 
> The problem is that most soundcards are only able to play sound from one
> app at a time, unless you have an audigy2 soundblaster card which is
> capable of hardware mixing, and dealing with multiple audio streams.
> Saying that though, dmix is supposed to be able to deal with multiple
> sound apps on other cards. I think that flash may be the exception.

This is one of the reasons pulseaudio exists. You don't need audigy2 hardware 
mixing, pulseaudio is doing the same thing in software if there is no hardware 
support. And there should be no exceptions, even flash plays concurrently with 
other apps here on my F12.

That said, I've never actually used rhythmbox. But did use xmms, amarok, kscd, 
mplayer, firefox&flash, kde system sounds, quake3, skype, ... They all work 
simultaneously (if I want them to), and I can use pavucontrol to adjust the 
volume of each app, and the output device. I have a 5.1 speaker system 
attached to the soundcard, and a bluetooth headset which behaves as a second 
audio sink. It's easy to adjust which app is going to play on what device, 
which microphone will be used for what, and all that stuff...
 
> Leaving flash out of the equation, I have no problems with other apps
> failing to release the soundcard when I stop the app. and I mean just stop
> the app playing, not closing it completely. for example, I can play
> something in realplayer, stop it, then play something with mhwaveedit,
> stop that, and start playing realplayer again with no problems. That's on
> my very old FC2 install, which machine has an Ensoniq (ens1371) soundcard.

On FC2 I guess that is the only thing you can do. But if you want better audio 
experience, I suggest installing a modern Fedora.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

[JayLinux]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,

>  Jay Mistry  wrote:
>> I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
>>
>> Is it possible to have a local cache/ "repository" of all
>> 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
>> 2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
e.g.
>> Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
>> so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
>
> Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
> directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
> /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
>
> For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
> updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.

In addition, there is a yum plugin that may serve the same function:

yum-plugin-local
>
> When this plugin is installed it will automatically copy all downloaded
> packages to a repository on the local file system, and (re)build that
> repository. This means that anything you've downloaded will always exist,
> even if the original repo removes it (and can thus. be
> reinstalled/downgraded/etc.).
>

Have just installed it.

Jay

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Re: Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Kari Somby]

On sunnuntai, 28. helmikuuta 2010 18:30:06 Barry Yu wrote:
> Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to
> GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE,
> won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel
> 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any
> fix available or have to wait for f13

Hi
Could you add some more info.
- When does it "freeze" (if not sure, just some explanation what happens)
- Your system processor
- output of #df
- your /etc/grub.conf -file info
- output of command #ls -la /boot/

Kapi
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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:08:38AM -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen  wrote:
> 
> Ooops! Maybe the discussion is not over :)
> 
> I understand not much of this, so let me try to sum this up in a
> know-nothing friendly way.
> 
> They use nvidia multi gpu video cards for routing. Hence, they don't
> face the interrupts problems so soon.
> 

Uhm, no, they didn't use video cards.

They used normal Asus P6T6 desktop motherboard, which has additional PCI-e slots
on the Nvidia NF200 PCI Express fanout switch chip (which is connected to the 
Intel X58 chipset).

> I suppose this is pretty experimental at this stage, though. How many
> cores are they using? I believe the plans are for 64 in the near
> future.
> 

No, that was not experimental at all. In addition to the normal desktop
motherboard they used Myrinet 10 Gbit PCI-E NICs.

> Now, this is interesting... I believe. Good thing Huang pretends he's
> not after Intel's skin :)
>

10 Gbit throughput, over a single 10 Gbit link, between Linux boxes was
possible already in 2008.

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Re: Preupgrade

[Rick Sewill]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 10:02 -0500, Jim wrote: 
> How safe is it to use Preupgrade from 11 > 12 ?

preupgrade from FC11 to FC12 worked for me with a few caveats.

1) I was using the nv driver in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in FC11.
   I needed to switch to the nouveau driver for FC12.

2) They changed the alsa controls in FC12.
   I had scripts that knew the names of some of the old alsa controls.
   I rather like what they did with the alsa controls in FC12.

3) I got frustrated with mplayer in FC12.

   mplayer insists upon changing the volume.
   mplayer didn't do that in FC11, at least I don't think it did.
   I couldn't figure out how to stop mplayer from doing this.
   There were notes about using a '-volume -1' option.
   The '-volume -1' option didn't work for me.

   mplayer insists upon putting a black band around full screen stuff.
   When I want full screen, I want the video image blown up.
   I don't want the black bands.
   I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the black bands.

   I finally switched from mplayer to vlc.

4) Minor annoyances in FC12.
   I keep getting a selinux error regarding gdb doing a write.
   I found a bugzilla bug for this so I am ignoring it.

   There is a new program, at least new to me, 
   automatic bug reporting tool.
   It appears to want to automate bug reporting.

   What annoys me is it complains gpodder is crashing.
   I don't think gpodder is crashing; gpodder seems to work for me.
   Maybe gpodder is crashing and I don't know it.

   I am using xscreensaver.
   Somehow screensaver got added to my Startup Applications.

Outside of not knowing I had to switch from the nv driver to the 
nouveau driver, I thought the preupgrade went rather smooth.

There was a note about dual booting in the preupgrade notes.
I didn't have to modify my /boot/grub/grub.conf file to boot Windows.
Because of the preupgrade notes, I expected I'd have to.

As always, I do a tar backup of all my disks before doing preupgrade.
I suggest anyone doing an upgrade, of any kind, do a full backup.

My PC is a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, 1 meg ram.

My /boot is on my / partition, not on its own separate partition.
There were notes about making sure the /boot directory had enough space.

As my mileage varied a little, your mileage can vary too.

-Rick



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Re: How to add & enable a repository in F12

[Elliott Chapin]

On 02/28/2010 01:31 PM, JayLinux wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Elliott Chapin  wrote:
>
>
>> On 02/28/2010 12:30 PM, JayLinux wrote:
>>  
>
>>> I would like to install Mondo Rescue (backup utility), available at
>>> ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/. This also includes a
>>> corresponding Fedora 12 repo file
>>> (ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/mondorescue.repo).
>>>
>>> How can I add the mondorescue repository to my existing list of repo's
>>> and enable it so that new packages can be auto-updated when a system
>>> update is run ?
>>> Also, are any additional changes (in any other file(s) ) reqd when I
>>> add the repo file ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
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>> Try just putting it in /etc/yum/repos.d; open the package manager, look
>> for it under System ->  Sources, ...
>>
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>>  
> Thanks, have done so.  Is there a cmd to refresh the package lists for
> the added repo(s).
>
> "yum repolist" shows the list of enabled repo's and their contents in
> brief, but I don't think it refreshes the cache/repository metadata.
>
> Jay
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Just use the update app.

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Re: How to add & enable a repository in F12

[JayLinux]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Elliott Chapin  wrote:

> On 02/28/2010 12:30 PM, JayLinux wrote:

>> I would like to install Mondo Rescue (backup utility), available at
>> ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/. This also includes a
>> corresponding Fedora 12 repo file
>> (ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/mondorescue.repo).
>>
>> How can I add the mondorescue repository to my existing list of repo's
>> and enable it so that new packages can be auto-updated when a system
>> update is run ?
>> Also, are any additional changes (in any other file(s) ) reqd when I
>> add the repo file ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
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> Try just putting it in /etc/yum/repos.d; open the package manager, look
> for it under System -> Sources, ...
>
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Thanks, have done so.  Is there a cmd to refresh the package lists for
the added repo(s).

"yum repolist" shows the list of enabled repo's and their contents in
brief, but I don't think it refreshes the cache/repository metadata.

Jay

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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Iain Davis]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Alan Cox  wrote:
> It does. One thing worth noting is that the chip has two modes. In the
> RAID mode it doesn't support CD-ROM devices but handles basic raid stuff
> itself via its embedded microcontroller. In non-RAID mode it behaves
> exactly like a standard IDE controller. Both modes are supported. RAID 0
> is generally best done using software RAID in Linux, RAID 1 there are
> advantages to doing it either way. Some of the RAID firmwares are a bit
> flakey so if you get a problem boot it with the device in non-RAID mode.
> (if the BIOS won't let you set it then try 'pata_it821x.noraid=1' as a
> boot option.

Hmm. I have a belief that I'm not operating the controller in a RAID
mode, but I will double check. If I don't get anywhere in that
direction, I'll try the boot option you've suggested.

Thanks for your help. :)
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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Alan Cox]

> > I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
> > Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
> > I'm not using that feature).

The IT8212 is a PATA controller not SATA. I guess they may have wired
SATA bridges to it.

> machine I had to get the driver from the mfg web page and compile it
> myself. But later (I think it was at the Centos/RHEL5 transition) I found
> that there was a working driver in the system. So, I'd expect that Fedora
> 12 would have it built in too.

It does. One thing worth noting is that the chip has two modes. In the
RAID mode it doesn't support CD-ROM devices but handles basic raid stuff
itself via its embedded microcontroller. In non-RAID mode it behaves
exactly like a standard IDE controller. Both modes are supported. RAID 0
is generally best done using software RAID in Linux, RAID 1 there are
advantages to doing it either way. Some of the RAID firmwares are a bit
flakey so if you get a problem boot it with the device in non-RAID mode.
(if the BIOS won't let you set it then try 'pata_it821x.noraid=1' as a
boot option.

Alan
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Re: Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[fred smith]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 09:13:43AM -0600, Iain Davis wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
> Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
> I'm not using that feature).
> 
> The OS on the machine is Windows XP, but I'll be wiping that out and
> replacing it with Fedora 12 Core. However, when I boot from the Fedora
> 12 DVD and run the installer, I reach the point where you select the
> language, U.S. English, click next and it pops up a micro-dialog
> saying its searching for disk drives...which it sits on for a long
> while. Then the dialog goes away...but it doesn't progress to the next
> screen.
> 
> I'm currently assuming that it can't find the SATA drive, but I was
> hoping for some help, since I'm not comfortable with how Fedora's
> install process works.

I've got a (now on the shelf due to upgrading) motherboard that uses that
chip as a secondary ide/sata controller. Back when I ran Centos4 on that
machine I had to get the driver from the mfg web page and compile it
myself. But later (I think it was at the Centos/RHEL5 transition) I found
that there was a working driver in the system. So, I'd expect that Fedora
12 would have it built in too.

Now when I say "working", pls note that I wasn't using it as a SATA
controller, but rather PATA, so YMMV.

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Re: How to add & enable a repository in F12

[Elliott Chapin]

On 02/28/2010 12:30 PM, JayLinux wrote:
> I would like to install Mondo Rescue (backup utility), available at
> ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/. This also includes a
> corresponding Fedora 12 repo file
> (ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/mondorescue.repo).
>
> How can I add the mondorescue repository to my existing list of repo's
> and enable it so that new packages can be auto-updated when a system
> update is run ?
> Also, are any additional changes (in any other file(s) ) reqd when I
> add the repo file ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
>
>
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Try just putting it in /etc/yum/repos.d; open the package manager, look 
for it under System -> Sources, ...

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Re: How to add & enable a repository in F12

[Dominic Hopf]

Am Sonntag, den 28.02.2010, 23:00 +0530 schrieb JayLinux:
> I would like to install Mondo Rescue (backup utility), available at
> ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/. This also includes a
> corresponding Fedora 12 repo file
> (ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/mondorescue.repo).
> 
> How can I add the mondorescue repository to my existing list of repo's
> and enable it so that new packages can be auto-updated when a system
> update is run ?
> Also, are any additional changes (in any other file(s) ) reqd when I
> add the repo file ?

Hi Jay,
just download the *.repo file and put it to /etc/yum.repos.d/. Next time
you start yum it should find any file you like to install and also any
update for those. :)

Regards,
Dominic

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How to add & enable a repository in F12

[JayLinux]

I would like to install Mondo Rescue (backup utility), available at
ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/. This also includes a
corresponding Fedora 12 repo file
(ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/fedora/12/mondorescue.repo).

How can I add the mondorescue repository to my existing list of repo's
and enable it so that new packages can be auto-updated when a system
update is run ?
Also, are any additional changes (in any other file(s) ) reqd when I
add the repo file ?

Thanks,

Jay


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fedora on flash drive

[Joerg Bergmann]

I use a 64GB SLC flash drive (SATA2) as the only drive in my
PC (no traditional hd at all). There was ongoing discussion
about specialized flash file systems, but I still use ext4
file systems. Is there any suggestion  for a better format?
Will there be a better format in fedora 13?

Thanks!

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Re: firefox / rhythmbox sound issues

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 28 February 2010 16:49, Max Pyziur wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've noticed that when I have firefox open (haven't checked this w/ other
> browsers) and have watched/listened to a file with sound, I can't later
> open rhythmbox and listen to a sound file or podcast.
>
> Is this a configuration issue where both apps can be open and used at
> least alternately, if not concurrently?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Max Pyziur
> p...@brama.com
>

I think that, that is a flash issue, where when you've finished listening to 
something, flash insists on hanging on to /dev/dsp, thus stopping other sound 
apps from playing.

I'd been listening to the BBC radio with realplayer, stopped realplayer, then 
opened the BBC's iplayer which uses flash in Firefox. Played the BBC stream 
for a bit in Firefox (which is terrible dues to the flash stream requiring 
more bandwidth than my dialup connection can deliver), then stopped the 
iplayer, also closing the tab for it, and tried to start realplayer playing 
again, without success.

I had to close firefox completely before flash would let go of /dev/dsp. Only 
after that would realplayer work again.

Try the line below when you've used flash, and can't get other sound apps to 
play afterwards. It will tell you what is grabbing the soundcard.

/usr/sbin/lsof -n | grep /dev/dsp

The problem is that most soundcards are only able to play sound from one app 
at a time, unless you have an audigy2 soundblaster card which is capable of 
hardware mixing, and dealing with multiple audio streams. Saying that though, 
dmix is supposed to be able to deal with multiple sound apps on other cards. 
I think that flash may be the exception.

Leaving flash out of the equation, I have no problems with other apps failing 
to release the soundcard when I stop the app. and I mean just stop the app 
playing, not closing it completely. for example, I can play something in 
realplayer, stop it, then play something with mhwaveedit, stop that, and 
start playing realplayer again with no problems. That's on my very old FC2 
install, which machine has an Ensoniq (ens1371) soundcard.

Apologies for Sunday afternoon ramble.

Nigel.
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Fedora 12 new updated kernel won't boot

[Barry Yu]

Fedora 12 32bit version, after updated by yum for all, when rebooted to 
GRUB menu, selected the  new kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE, 
won't boot, reboot system back to grub menu and chose previous kernel 
2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE to start f12, still works, is there any 
fix available or have to wait for f13
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Re: general advice for rolling back yum updates?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 10:47 -0500, Mark Andrew Miller wrote:
> Hello, all.
> 
> I recently ran a  on my mythdora server, which updated my myth
> applications from 0.22-1 to 0.22-5.  Now the mythfrontend application
> terminates right after being launched and the log ends with
> 
> 
> 2010-02-28 10:27:10.774 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
> Floating point exception
> 
> I have written to the myth users list, but I thought somebody on this list
> might be able to give me some advice, too.
> 
> Since the previous version of the myth apps ran pretty well for me, I would
> like explore the possibility of going back to that version.  However, I
> don't have any experience rolling back yum updates  If rollbacks require
> some before-the-fact configuration, I probably don't have that :-( 

Try 'yum downgrade '.

poc

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firefox / rhythmbox sound issues

[Max Pyziur]

Greetings,

I've noticed that when I have firefox open (haven't checked this w/ other 
browsers) and have watched/listened to a file with sound, I can't later 
open rhythmbox and listen to a sound file or podcast.

Is this a configuration issue where both apps can be open and used at 
least alternately, if not concurrently?

Thanks.

Max Pyziur
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p.s.
Select output from lshw
description: Motherboard
product: DG965SS
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
version: AAD41678-306
serial: BQSS715001N5
slot: Base Board Chassis Location


 *-multimedia
  description: Audio device
  product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
  vendor: Intel Corporation
  physical id: 1b
  bus info: p...@:00:1b.0
  version: 02
  width: 64 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
  configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
  resources: irq:22 memory:9042-90423fff

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general advice for rolling back yum updates?

[Mark Andrew Miller]

Hello, all.

I recently ran a  on my mythdora server, which updated my myth
applications from 0.22-1 to 0.22-5.  Now the mythfrontend application
terminates right after being launched and the log ends with


2010-02-28 10:27:10.774 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
Floating point exception

I have written to the myth users list, but I thought somebody on this list
might be able to give me some advice, too.

Since the previous version of the myth apps ran pretty well for me, I would
like explore the possibility of going back to that version.  However, I
don't have any experience rolling back yum updates  If rollbacks require
some before-the-fact configuration, I probably don't have that :-( 

Any suggestions?
Mark

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Installing Fedora Core 12 on a system with a IT8212 SATA Controller

[Iain Davis]

Hi.

I have a machine whose only hard drive is a SATA 160GB (Western
Digital). The SATA controller is an ITE IT8212 (a raid controller, but
I'm not using that feature).

The OS on the machine is Windows XP, but I'll be wiping that out and
replacing it with Fedora 12 Core. However, when I boot from the Fedora
12 DVD and run the installer, I reach the point where you select the
language, U.S. English, click next and it pops up a micro-dialog
saying its searching for disk drives...which it sits on for a long
while. Then the dialog goes away...but it doesn't progress to the next
screen.

I'm currently assuming that it can't find the SATA drive, but I was
hoping for some help, since I'm not comfortable with how Fedora's
install process works.

Thanks,

Iain
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Preupgrade

[Jim]

How safe is it to use Preupgrade from 11 > 12 ?
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Futhere firefox crazyness

[Aaron Konstam]

In my Firefox preferences I have When Firefox starts: Show my home page.
and my home page is set to igoogle.

Nevertheless when I open Firefox I consistently get a list of files in
my home directory. Where have I gone wrong?
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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Mail Lists]

On 02/28/2010 07:15 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Apparently 
> version 7 doesn't have this problem anymore (but I didn't check this yet).
> 

   Ah could be .. I'm running 7 too.

   g
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Re: Real Audio

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 04:18 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: 
> On Saturday 27 February 2010 09:45:43 pm AnneMarie Robinson wrote:
> > Thanks for previous help--I can now listen to WBGO & WNYC, but WAMU uses a
> > Real Audio player, and how do I get it to play with either Totem or
> > Rhythmbox?  Thank you.
> 
> I have no idea about Totem and Rhythmbox (you probably need to install 
> gstreamer-plugins-bad and gstreamer-plugins-ugly from rpmfusion), but I do 
> know that mplayer can do it without problems. Just a suggestion. ;-)
> 
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
> 

I still thing that RealPlayer11GOLD.bin  is the best program for
processing audio streams.
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[John Austin]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 12:26 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Sunday 28 February 2010 10:27:25 am John Austin wrote:
> > There is most definitely a problem somewhere with kmail but appears to
> > be non-fatal for me
> > 
> > After a reboot when opening an email file a message saying Akonadi
> > is being started followed by a popup about Nepomuk (attached)
> > 
> > After that kmail still seems to view email files OK which is all I use
> > it for.
> 
> The message about Nepomuk not running is not an error, it is a notification 
> that it isn't running. If you want to get rid of the message, just go to 
> systemsettings and activate Nepomuk.
> 
> Let me see... System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search -> Basic 
> Settings, 
> and there you need to enable Nepomuk Semantik Desktop, and maybe Strigi 
> Desktop File Indexer (just check the two checkboxes present). Click apply, 
> and 
> try to restart KMail to see if the message disappeared.
> 
> Now if Nepomuk refuses to start for some reason, *then* you would actually 
> have a problem. ;-)
> 
> Best, :-)
> Marko
> 
Hi Marko

Many thanks for the info
Ran systemsettings from a terminal and set as suggested and all seems
well!

Seems a pain for an XFCE user to have to set up KDE at such a detailed
level just to run a kmail client on a single email file

Maybe I am not thinking clearly

All I am doing is using Thunar/PCManfm as a file manager and clicking on
an email file to read or print it.

kmail --view file:///home/ja/ja/Holiday_bookings/Bungalow/2nd_reply

I use evolution as my main email client

John



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Re: openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[Kenneth Wolcott]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 05:28, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 03:02 -0800, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>> Hi;
>>
>> openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice
>>
>> cat /etc/redhat-release
>> Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
>>
>> "rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing
>
> All that means is that you don't have it installed.
>
> [...]
>
> You need to use the right name (which is not obvious I'm afraid). Try
>
> yum groupinfo Office/Productivity
>
> or
>
> yum info openoffice.org\*
>
> poc

Thanks, got it!

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Re: openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 03:02 -0800, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice
> 
> cat /etc/redhat-release
> Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
> 
> "rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing

All that means is that you don't have it installed.

[...]

You need to use the right name (which is not obvious I'm afraid). Try

yum groupinfo Office/Productivity

or

yum info openoffice.org\*

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Re: openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi Michael;


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 04:36, M A Young  wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>
>> Hi;
>>
>> openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice
>>
>> cat /etc/redhat-release
>> Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
>>
>> "rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing
>>
>> I downloaded the tar.gz file from openoffice.org, but would prefer to
>> install an rpm
>>
>> Tried to use alien to convert but apparently alien broken
>
> It is unlikely that oo.o 3.2 will be packaged for Fedora 12 since it may
> be seen as too major a jump to make within a release. The are however 3.2
> RPMs for the Fedora 13 development version which should appear in an alpha
> version within the next couple of weeks, so you could try packages from
> that, or just upgrade your whole OS to it. Note that mixing RPMs from
> different Fedora versions can cause problems so I would recommend a fair
> amount of expertise in resolving package conflicts (and in the worst case
> scenario recovering a non-functional or partially functional system
> and/or good backups).

  How about the most current version of OpenOffice that is properly
supported by Fedora 12? :-)

Thanks,
Ken
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Re: openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[M A Young]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:

> Hi;
>
> openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice
>
> cat /etc/redhat-release
> Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
>
> "rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing
>
> I downloaded the tar.gz file from openoffice.org, but would prefer to
> install an rpm
>
> Tried to use alien to convert but apparently alien broken

It is unlikely that oo.o 3.2 will be packaged for Fedora 12 since it may 
be seen as too major a jump to make within a release. The are however 3.2 
RPMs for the Fedora 13 development version which should appear in an alpha 
version within the next couple of weeks, so you could try packages from 
that, or just upgrade your whole OS to it. Note that mixing RPMs from 
different Fedora versions can cause problems so I would recommend a fair 
amount of expertise in resolving package conflicts (and in the worst case 
scenario recovering a non-functional or partially functional system 
and/or good backups).

Michael Young
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sunday 28 February 2010 10:27:25 am John Austin wrote:
> There is most definitely a problem somewhere with kmail but appears to
> be non-fatal for me
> 
> After a reboot when opening an email file a message saying Akonadi
> is being started followed by a popup about Nepomuk (attached)
> 
> After that kmail still seems to view email files OK which is all I use
> it for.

The message about Nepomuk not running is not an error, it is a notification 
that it isn't running. If you want to get rid of the message, just go to 
systemsettings and activate Nepomuk.

Let me see... System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search -> Basic Settings, 
and there you need to enable Nepomuk Semantik Desktop, and maybe Strigi 
Desktop File Indexer (just check the two checkboxes present). Click apply, and 
try to restart KMail to see if the message disappeared.

Now if Nepomuk refuses to start for some reason, *then* you would actually 
have a problem. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sunday 28 February 2010 04:31:55 am Mail Lists wrote:
> On 02/27/2010 10:59 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> >> I run F11 x86_64 and there are *zero* 32 bit libraries on my machine. I
> >> recently installed Mathematica from the Wolfram supplied binary for a
> >> friend. I however did not need to install any 32 bit dependencies. Are
> >> you sure about their dependence on 32 bit libraries?
> > 
> > Umm, well, yes, I needed this specifically:
> >compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686
> > 
> > This package provides libstdc++.so.5 which is needed by Mma 6.0.3. Maybe
> > in
> 
>   Is there a reason you dont install the 64 bit mathematica version - I
> thought it was automatic when you do the install - it detects it and
> installs the 64 bit one as appropriate. Perhaps you kept an old install
> and upgraded your fedora from 32 to 64 ?

Well it *is* the 64bit install of Mma. And yes, the installer did detect the 
arch properly and installed the 64bit version. But for some reason it also 
required the above 32bit library as well. It was a fresh install of both F12 
and Mma.

I haven't looked into it really, but my guess is that there is a bug in either 
Mma 6 or its installer script, so it requires one 32bit piece. Or maybe it was 
a genuine requirement, some piece of code there might have still relied on 
32bit stuff (the front end, some library, package, or whatever...). Apparently 
version 7 doesn't have this problem anymore (but I didn't check this yet).

Best, :-)
Marko




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Re: PolicyKit?

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:54:12 +
John Austin wrote:

> DeviceKit-disks-009-3.fc12.x86_64 : Disk Management Service
> 
> Doesn't answer your question though

Maybe PolicyKit is just the framework, and it had a lot of
other little Kits with the xml? :-).
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Re: firefox flash plugin duplicates!

[Mike Cloaked]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> By the way if you update your flash-plugin via yum using the adobe repo it
> is easy to see if you have the same issue as I had by simply going to
> about:plugins and seeing whether you have more than one entry for the
> flash plugin? I would be interested to know if anyone else sees this, and
> whether or not this also happens if updating the flash plugin by other
> methods like manually updating by downloading the install file?
> 
> In my case it happened on all machines - some running f11 and others f12 -
> but every machine where I install and update flash-plugin by setting the
> adobe-linux-i386.repo file to contain:
> 
> [adobe-linux-i386]
> name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
> baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
> 
> this always happens. This is installable from the rpm at
> http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
> 
> Anyway - anyone else see this issue?
> 

The full instructions/recipe are at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
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Re: firefox flash plugin duplicates!

[Mike Cloaked]

tim-9-3 wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 08:03 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> 
>> Actually I found the answer by fiddling around - after updating the
>> flash-plugin it is important, if not vital, to then go to the firefox
>> profile and delete the pluginreg.dat file with firefox closed down,
>> and then next time you restart firefox the plugin data is correct and
>> does show the up to date flash-plugin
>>  
>> Shame that updating the flash-plugin does not update this
>> automatically!!
> 
> Obvious question:  Had you shutdown and restarted Firefox after updating
> the plugin?
> 
> 

By the way if you update your flash-plugin via yum using the adobe repo it
is easy to see if you have the same issue as I had by simply going to
about:plugins and seeing whether you have more than one entry for the flash
plugin? I would be interested to know if anyone else sees this, and whether
or not this also happens if updating the flash plugin by other methods like
manually updating by downloading the install file?

In my case it happened on all machines - some running f11 and others f12 -
but every machine where I install and update flash-plugin by setting the
adobe-linux-i386.repo file to contain:

[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux

this always happens. This is installable from the rpm at
http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

Anyway - anyone else see this issue?
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Re: firefox flash plugin duplicates!

[Mike Cloaked]

tim-9-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> Obvious question:  Had you shutdown and restarted Firefox after updating
> the plugin?
> 
> 

Indeed I had - many many times!
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openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi;

openoffice 3.2 rpm for fedora; yum search returns nothing for openoffice

cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 12 (Constantine)

"rpm -qa | grep -o open | grep -i office" returns nothing

I downloaded the tar.gz file from openoffice.org, but would prefer to
install an rpm

Tried to use alien to convert but apparently alien broken

Thanks,
Ken Wolcott
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Re: PolicyKit?

[John Austin]

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 18:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> The freedesktop.org web site has masses of documentation on
> PolicyKit explaining in excrutiating detail all sorts of xml
> configuration.
> 
> Meanwhile, no rpm with "polkit" in the name has installed
> any xml files on fedora 12.
> 
> So whats up with that? Did they completely redesign
> PolicyKit and not bother to even add a one line warning
> at the beginning of the docs that everything the docs
> say is now completely wrong?
> 
> Just curious...

I've played with this file to get eSATAp working

/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.policy

Too much xml for me !

yum \
provides /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.policy
...
DeviceKit-disks-009-3.fc12.x86_64 : Disk Management Service

Doesn't answer your question though

John

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NetworkManager doesn't see ra0 (rt3090)

[Colin Brace]

Hi all,

I have F12 installed on an Asus Eee PC that as the Ralink RT3090 chipset,
which is handled by the rt2860 driver. Apparently this is (stil) in staging,
but the Fusion repo has rt2860 and kmod-rt2860 packages, and  I have
installed these under the 2.6.31.12-174.2.19 kernel.

The ra0 interface comes up at boot time. Using system-config-network-gui, I
have configured it to be managed by NetworkManager, but the latter doesn't
see the ra0; it only lists "wired networks".

Any ideas on how to fix this?

-
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

[John Austin]

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 18:25 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: 
> On Saturday 27 February 2010 05:39:26 pm Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > I am afraid that I have lost patience with this.  As far as my own
> > view goes - mail is one of the few absolutely essential functions of
> > any computer system/desktop/laptop/netboook, and any update that
> > breaks a working mail setup is not excusable.  Any update to email
> > systems should be very carefully and thoroughly checked in testing
> > before it goes live - period.
> > 
> > I have abandoned kmail and it would take a lot to get me back to it
> > now. I now use Thunderbird exclusively - maybe other people will stay
> > with kmail if that has been their favourite client up till now and
> > hope that the problems get solved.  However I now do what Mail-Lists
> > does and run a dovecot imap server on every machine - and run a filter
> > to move all incoming mail from the external server (pop) to the local
> > imap server - and that way if there is a problem with the email client
> > then I can just switch to another client and still see all the same
> > mail very simply indeed.  Also some email clients have better specific
> > features than others and in the even of a serious disaster such as
> > appears to have happened with the akonadi/nepomuk/kmail fiasco then at
> > least I can simply close down kmail and open up Thunderbird and I am
> > back in business - who knows how many people may never return to kmail
> > after their experiences this week?
> 
> I am yet to see any problem with KMail/akonadi/nepomuk on this fully updated 
> F12/64bit/KDE. Everything works as expected, and my KMail experience has 
> actually improved since KDE4.4  update came out. It starts faster, is more 
> responsive, and font size choices are more eye-friendly.
> 
> The fiasco you talk about seems to have hit only a couple of people. My guess 
> is that this has to do something with your own (customized?) 
> environment/system/mysql/whatever, and you have hit some untested corner-
> case... In general KMail in KDE4.4 apparently Just Works.
> 
> This very e-mail is being written in KMail. ;-)
> 
> Best, :-)
> Marko
> 
Hi

There is most definitely a problem somewhere with kmail but appears to
be non-fatal for me

After a reboot when opening an email file a message saying Akonadi
is being started followed by a popup about Nepomuk (attached)

After that kmail still seems to view email files OK which is all I use
it for.

I am using fully update F12
Linux fuerte 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Feb 19 18:55:03
UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

KDM and XFCE

John






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Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !

[Suvayu Ali]

On 28/02/10 04:59 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Saturday 27 February 2010 09:21:35 pm Suvayu Ali wrote:
>> On 27/02/10 07:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>> ...
>>> version of it (yet). Later on I tainted it again when installing
>>> dependencies for Wolfram Mathematica package I use.
>>>
>>> If there weren't for closed source software which depends on 32bit
>>> libraries, I'd be having a clean 64bit-only system.
>>
>> I run F11 x86_64 and there are *zero* 32 bit libraries on my machine. I
>> recently installed Mathematica from the Wolfram supplied binary for a
>> friend. I however did not need to install any 32 bit dependencies. Are
>> you sure about their dependence on 32 bit libraries?
>
> Umm, well, yes, I needed this specifically:
>
> compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686
>
> This package provides libstdc++.so.5 which is needed by Mma 6.0.3. Maybe in
> ...
>
> Maybe this can be avoided somehow, but it wasn't obvious to me. Or maybe Mma
> was just looking for the library in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64, which
> would account as a bug, possibly resolved in version 7? I didn't have enough

Thats it! I installed Mathematica 7. Maybe they fixed the issue. AFAIK 
the installer script supposedly supports both architectures.

> Best, :-)
> Marko

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Re: firefox flash plugin duplicates!

[Tim]

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 08:03 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> Actually I found the answer by fiddling around - after updating the
> flash-plugin it is important, if not vital, to then go to the firefox
> profile and delete the pluginreg.dat file with firefox closed down,
> and then next time you restart firefox the plugin data is correct and
> does show the up to date flash-plugin
>  
> Shame that updating the flash-plugin does not update this
> automatically!!

Obvious question:  Had you shutdown and restarted Firefox after updating
the plugin?

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