Fedora 12 guest VMWare -- guest daemon failure

[Michael Eager]

I've created a Fedora 12 VMWare guest on a Fedora 10 system.
VMWare tools appear to build and install correctly, and when
I start/stop them manually, they appear to work.  After starting
them I can resize the VM window to match my screen.

When I reboot the guest, a message is issued saying "guest daemon
failed" and VMware tools shuts down.

There's nothing in boot.log or messages which gives a clue.
In the vmware-tools script, all I can see is that guestd returns
non-zero.

Anyone run into this?

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Re: Fedora 12 guest VMWare -- guest daemon failure

[Michael Eager]

Michael Eager wrote:
> I've created a Fedora 12 VMWare guest on a Fedora 10 system.
> VMWare tools appear to build and install correctly, and when
> I start/stop them manually, they appear to work.  After starting
> them I can resize the VM window to match my screen.
> 
> When I reboot the guest, a message is issued saying "guest daemon
> failed" and VMware tools shuts down.
> 
> There's nothing in boot.log or messages which gives a clue.
> In the vmware-tools script, all I can see is that guestd returns
> non-zero.
> 
> Anyone run into this?

Resolved:  SELinux was causing ldd to fail.  Turned off SELinux.

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F11 - Trac and adding new wiki macros

[Vijay Gill]

Hi,

I have a Fedora 11 server running on which I installed trac for ticket
management. Trac is being used for handling multiple projects and everything
is working fine.

I want to have two macros (PlannedMilestones and WikiTicketCalendar). Where
do the .py files of these macro go so that they get recognised by the wiki
functionality of trac. I tried putting it in various directories related to
trac but no success.

The version of trac is 0.11.something (the latest F11 provides).

The error I always see when viewing a page that uses these macros, is as
following

Error: Failed to load processor PlannedMilestones

No macro or processor named 'PlannedMilestones' found.

Thanks in advance.

Vijay
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Re: Fedora 12 guest VMWare -- guest daemon failure

[Ed Greshko]

Michael Eager wrote:
> Michael Eager wrote:
>   
>> I've created a Fedora 12 VMWare guest on a Fedora 10 system.
>> VMWare tools appear to build and install correctly, and when
>> I start/stop them manually, they appear to work.  After starting
>> them I can resize the VM window to match my screen.
>>
>> When I reboot the guest, a message is issued saying "guest daemon
>> failed" and VMware tools shuts down.
>>
>> There's nothing in boot.log or messages which gives a clue.
>> In the vmware-tools script, all I can see is that guestd returns
>> non-zero.
>>
>> Anyone run into this?
>> 
>
> Resolved:  SELinux was causing ldd to fail.  Turned off SELinux.
>
>   
FWIW, I was running F12 as a guest with SELinux enabled.  Workstation
7.0.1-227600.  No problems.

That version did not officially support F12 guests.

The latest Workstation Beta, e.x.p-240242, fully supports F12 guests.

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Re: KDE Plasmoid regressions?

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Rex Dieter  wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> I didn't ask about this since KDE 4.4.0 because I thought it was just
>> a temporary glitch or something, but now in 4.4.1 I see the same
>> thing, so it makes sense to ask:
>>
>> (1) How do I switch the Digital Clock plasmoid from am/pm mode to 24hr
>> mode? How do I make Monday to be the first day of the week in the
>> calendar?
>
> systemsettings->regional&language

Thanks Rex, that's it! I even found the Imperial/Metric units settings
in another tab, which solves the (2) issue with Fahrenheit/Celsius.
The only thing remaining now is that graph color thing, but that's not
a big deal. :-)

Thanks! :-)
Marko
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Re: FC12, KDE-4, Keyring

[Rex Dieter]

Jim wrote:

> Fedora12/KDE4.4
> 
> Where is the Keyring Password for enabling Wireless in KDE ?

By default, nm-applet is used, and it uses gnome-keyring.  gnome-keyring-
manager used to be the tool of choice here, but I think seahorse is the 
utility of choice now.

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Realtek RTL8191SE

[Andres Felipe Acosta Gil]

Hey guys, i just want to know if there is a linux driver for RTL8191SE and
how to install.

Thanks

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Re: Realtek RTL8191SE

[Aioanei Rares]

On 03/19/2010 02:41 PM, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote:
> Hey guys, i just want to know if there is a linux driver for RTL8191SE 
> and how to install.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
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Re: Realtek RTL8191SE

[Phil Savoie]

On 19/03/2010 06:41, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote:
> Hey guys, i just want to know if there is a linux driver for RTL8191SE
> and how to install.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Regards
> 
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> 


Hi Andreas,

I don't think so but Realtek does:

http://www.realtek.com.tw/

Regards,

Phil
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Re: Charging USB devices with Fedora

[ka1ifq]

"On 04:14:53 am Ambrogio  said"
> Hi all,
> I had 2 different MP3 player that require USB connection to recharging
> it.
> My problem is that I can't be able to charge them.
> USB Connection is good, I can transfer data from and to the devices but
> battery doesn't charge.
> Searching on the web I found something about USB drivers required, or
> about some echo to be done on special files.
> I can't be able to done the job.
> I have two Laptop, one with fedora 10 and one with fedora 12, even if I
> think problem isn't on the version of O.S.
> There is someone that can help me solving the question?
> Bye
>  Ambrogio

Does the cable you are using have all 4 wires? Some cables are made for data 
xfer only. try using the cable you have with a usb charger and see if it 
works. I had a similar problem with a phone and it was the cable I was using.
hth.mike.
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Re: Routing choice under user control per application instance?

[Will Walthall]

I've read everything about this in the shorewall documentation. It was like
a month ago or so, I haven't had the time to setup a network segment to do
testing on.  I think shorewall would make it easier then doing it all at the
iptables level.  I could be wrong though.  I haven't done anything with the
actual iptables, all I've done is set them up via shorewall.

Heres the part of the documentation that discusses having 2 internet
connections and how to route traffic though either of them with shorewall.

http://www.shorewall.net/MultiISP.html
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Re: Realtek RTL8191SE

[Hobbix]

I have an ASUS 1201 that uses that Wifi Card and I had to contact Realtek
and they sent me the binaries to compile and it worked great.

Hobotekk

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil <
pipeaco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys, i just want to know if there is a linux driver for RTL8191SE and
> how to install.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
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Re: Realtek RTL8191SE

[Frank Cox]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 09:17 -0700, Hobbix wrote:
> they sent me the binaries to compile

That's a bit of a contradiction...

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Re: Realtek RTL8191SE

[Gilboa Davara]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 07:41 -0500, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote:
> Hey guys, i just want to know if there is a linux driver for RTL8191SE
> and how to install.
> 

While not the same chipset, my ASUS 1201N uses the RT8192SE which
requires drivers from realtek.com [1] and have yet to be supported by
upstream kernel.org (and as such, by Fedora).
While initially, the drivers were alpha quality at best, the latest
update (March) improved them considerably. Hopefully, it'll be the same
in your case.

- As root, install the kernel-devel, gcc and make packages.
- Download the right driver from realtek [1].
- Unpack the file.
- cd 
- make
- Switch to root. ($ su)
- make install
You should the see the make install a file called rt8191se*.ko
- modprobe rt8191se...ko
- /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
And Hopefully, your wireless should be detected just fine.

Never the less, be advised that these drivers are under heavy
development and that your millage may vary.

- Gilboa
[1]
http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false


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How do KDE gestures work?

[n2xssvv.g02gfr12930]

I'm at a lose to understand KDE gestures. If I enable them on my Laptop,
the touchpad and buttons becomes nigh on useless. So if anyone knows how
KDE gestures are useful, or can be made so, please let me know.
Otherwise I'd not recommend them.

JB
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Re: How do KDE gestures work?

[Andre Goree]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:38:24 -0400, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930  
 wrote:

>
> I'm at a lose to understand KDE gestures. If I enable them on my Laptop,
> the touchpad and buttons becomes nigh on useless. So if anyone knows how
> KDE gestures are useful, or can be made so, please let me know.
> Otherwise I'd not recommend them.
>
> JB


They "worked" for me when I tried setting them up to be used in  
Konqueror.  They also caused issues with focus (regarding windows), among  
other flaky things.  My advice:  don't use them.  They don't seem mature  
enough yet (the norm with KDE).


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Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

I have a little script to start fetchmail, which is activated in
rc.local.  It runs perfectly when started from a root login; but it
fails when started from rc.local.

Here is the info:
=== Scripts Start ===
$ more rc.local fetchmail-start 
::
rc.local
::
#!/bin/sh
#
# This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
# You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
# want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.

# Fork a script that will start fetchmail for jonrysh in a few seconds
/etc/rc.d/fetchmail-start

touch /var/lock/subsys/local
::
fetchmail-start
::
#!/bin/sh
#
# Start fetchmail for jonrysh

su jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'

=== Messages Start ===
Fetchmail emits the following error message and fails:
fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied

What's happening?  How can it be fixed?

Thanks - jon


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Re: Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Steven Stern]

On 03/19/2010 02:52 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I have a little script to start fetchmail, which is activated in
> rc.local.  It runs perfectly when started from a root login; but it
> fails when started from rc.local.
> 
> Here is the info:
> === Scripts Start ===
> $ more rc.local fetchmail-start 
> ::
> rc.local
> ::
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
> # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
> # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.
> 
> # Fork a script that will start fetchmail for jonrysh in a few seconds
> /etc/rc.d/fetchmail-start
> 
> touch /var/lock/subsys/local
> ::
> fetchmail-start
> ::
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # Start fetchmail for jonrysh
> 
> su jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'
> 
> === Messages Start ===
> Fetchmail emits the following error message and fails:
> fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied
> 
> What's happening?  How can it be fixed?
> 
> Thanks - jon
> 
> 

The perms on /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc need to be 600, with ownership
given to johrysh:johnrysh

You could also start it without the su by adding it to your own crontab:

  @reboot sleep 30 & fetchmail

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Re: Mail Server

[Bill Davidsen]

William Mungwiro wrote:
> Hi All, im running Fedora 10 and i want to configure the sending of 
> email both internal and external. can anybody email me the instructions 
> on how to do it at
> mungwirowill...@gmail.com  as soon as 
> possible.
> 
I run sendmail and dovecot myself, if you wish to accept mail from off-machine 
edit sendmail.mc in /etc/mail and then run make. You definitely want 
spamassassin running, too.

They all have man pages, although default is useful for many people.

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rpm --rebuild: what does it do?

[Stuart McGraw]

Hello all,

The man page for "rpm --rebuild", with rather excessive 
terseness, says:

> [...] use --rebuilddb to rebuild the database indices
> from the installed package headers.

I want to backup the "rpm database".  Presumably I
do not need to backup the "database indices" since
they are recreated by rpm --rebuild.

Can some translate "rpm database" and "database indices"
into filenames?  Thanks.

[P.S., I quickly scanned the Max RPM book, especially
chapters 6 and 7 and did not find an answer there though
it is a long book and I may have missed it.] 
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Re: btrfs supported in Fedora 12?

[Bill Davidsen]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> How to enable btrfs in Fedora 12? I tried typing icantbelieveitsnotbtr
> as boot option but still in anaconda installed I get no option to
> choose btrfs in for partitions. Searching fedora wiki for btrfs shows
> it only in Fedora 11 release notes... is btrfs even supported in
> Fedora 12?
> 
> Who can I enable and install Fedora 12 on btrfs partition via LiveCD/USB?
> 
May I say, in all honesty, DON'T DO THAT! If you take a look at the kernel 
mailing list you will see that btrfs is still a work in progress two kernel 
versions later. I highly suggest waiting for FC13 and upgrading to a somewhat 
more stable btrfs kernel, then trying on something other than root.

I've been playing with it on a 2.6.33-ck1 kernel, and while it hasn't lost my 
data, I haven't stopped running a backup often, and the performance is spotty 
at 
times.

I think it's in the 2.6.32 kernel. Good for testing, a little bit from 
production. I'm not timid, but you should really try before you buy.

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Re: KDE Plasmoid regressions?

[Antonio Olivares]

> > Don't think you are missing anything :(, I noticed too
> that Display settings are no longer there when I want the
> screen to blank, I had it setup to 2 minutes, and now it
> takes a while to blank by itself :(, somehow defaults came
> back?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> check you standy/suspend options with xset -q after that
> 
> try system settings -> Advanced -> Power Management:
> 
> In general settings :
> check Let PowerDevil manage screen powersaving
> select "Perfomance" in the option when AC adaptor is
> plugged in
> 
> In edit profiles:
> select Performance after that select screen tab
> there activate Enable display power management
> and change standby and/or suspend time options
> 
> regards,
> 
> Gabriel
> -- 


Thank you very much Gabriel.  Now it is behaving like I had it :)

Regards,

Antonio

[oliva...@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Mar 3 04:57:21 
UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux



  
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Re: rpm --rebuild: what does it do?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 14:03 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: 
> Hello all,
> 
> The man page for "rpm --rebuild", with rather excessive 
> terseness, says:
> 
> > [...] use --rebuilddb to rebuild the database indices
> > from the installed package headers.
> 
> I want to backup the "rpm database".  Presumably I
> do not need to backup the "database indices" since
> they are recreated by rpm --rebuild.
> 
> Can some translate "rpm database" and "database indices"
> into filenames?  Thanks.
> 
> [P.S., I quickly scanned the Max RPM book, especially
> chapters 6 and 7 and did not find an answer there though
> it is a long book and I may have missed it.] 

I thought the answer was simple. The rpm databases are named:
/var/lib/rpm/__db.00x where x =1,2,3,4

However I notice there are other files called:
/var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.2702/__db.00x where x=1,2,3

I  have never seen them before but they seem to be  related to rpm
--rebuilddb
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Re: Rolling Release Model(s), Fedora Discussion

[Mike McCarty]

Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Dear friends, 
> 
> This is indeed an interesting topic and I am not completely sure which
> side I am on. Perhaps a hybrid but more on the side of the rolling
> release model after thinking about it for the reasons listed below.
> 
> A rolling release has the advantage that once I set up someone who is
> not that much into linux, his system never gets out of date as long as
> he/she does stable updates whenever needed. I think this is a major
> benefit of the rolling release schedule. Otherwise, this will

It has a major disadvantage to the support team, of not being
able to "retire" a release from support.

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Re: Rolling Release Model(s), Fedora Discussion

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:37:25 -0600
Mike McCarty wrote:

> It has a major disadvantage to the support team, of not being
> able to "retire" a release from support.

And how does someone describe their software that currently
says something like "Works on fedora 12 or later"? :-).

Maybe "Works on fedora if you have updated since Nov 10, 2009"
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Re: Rolling Release Model(s), Fedora Discussion

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:43:44 -0400 Tom Horsley 
wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:37:25 -0600
> Mike McCarty wrote:
> 
> > It has a major disadvantage to the support team, of not being
> > able to "retire" a release from support.
> 
> And how does someone describe their software that currently
> says something like "Works on fedora 12 or later"? :-).
> 
> Maybe "Works on fedora if you have updated since Nov 10, 2009"

But if that capability is being provided by some other rpm (under a
different name), the rpm update could replace this one with the new
one. For a while, the new could work with the old command, with a
notice/warning to change your habits, and then the old could go away
completely in the next 6 months, let us say?

Of course, if the capability is not being provided, and there are
current users, I am not so comfortable with taking it out of Fedora. 

Btw, I also was wondering if kernel updates could be split into two
parts: one requiring a reboot and the other not. Would bring us back to
those old *nix uptimes. Of course, it would be better if stuff was
picked up and installed pertaining to the hardware on an user's
machine, that would certainly cut down critical updates quite a bit at
an individual level, perhaps?

All this is utopian, maybe...

Ranjan

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Re: Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:02 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> On 03/19/2010 02:52 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > I have a little script to start fetchmail, which is activated in
> > rc.local.  It runs perfectly when started from a root login; but it
> > fails when started from rc.local.
> > 
> > Here is the info:
> > === Scripts Start ===
> > $ more rc.local fetchmail-start 
> > ::
> > rc.local
> > ::
> > #!/bin/sh
> > #
> > # This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
> > # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
> > # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.
> > 
> > # Fork a script that will start fetchmail for jonrysh in a few 
> > seconds
> > /etc/rc.d/fetchmail-start
> > 
> > touch /var/lock/subsys/local
> > ::
> > fetchmail-start
> > ::
> > #!/bin/sh
> > #
> > # Start fetchmail for jonrysh
> > 
> > su jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'
> > 
> > === Messages Start ===
> > Fetchmail emits the following error message and fails:
> > fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied
> > 
> > What's happening?  How can it be fixed?

> The perms on /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc need to be 600, with ownership
> given to jonrysh:jonrysh

Everything is as you recommend.  Note that the scheme works when invoked
from a command window running a shell as root, but not from the init
script.

> You could also start it without the su by adding it to your own crontab:
>   @reboot sleep 30 & fetchmail

Thanks, I'll try this.  But I'd still like to know what's the reason for
the permission failure when running out of rc.local .  SELinux issues?

Thanks - jon

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Re: Rolling Release Model(s), Fedora Discussion

[Konstantin Svist]

On 03/19/2010 02:04 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
> But if that capability is being provided by some other rpm (under a
> different name), the rpm update could replace this one with the new
> one. For a while, the new could work with the old command, with a
> notice/warning to change your habits, and then the old could go away
> completely in the next 6 months, let us say?
>   

I'm pretty sure yum already does this for packages which are superseded
by others.
I'm *guessing* the main problem is what to do if user didn't run yum
update for a year and his package A was replaced with B, but then B
replaced with C half a year later.
Yum repos would then need to keep a very long list of updates so that
the user can migrate to B then to C properly -- or quite possibly mess
up her system migrating to C directly (because A->C is not officially
supported)


> Btw, I also was wondering if kernel updates could be split into two
> parts: one requiring a reboot and the other not. Would bring us back to
> those old *nix uptimes. Of course, it would be better if stuff was
> picked up and installed pertaining to the hardware on an user's
> machine, that would certainly cut down critical updates quite a bit at
> an individual level, perhaps?
>   

I'm pretty sure all kernel updates require a reboot. I've heard of live
kernel patching, but not sure if I'd trust it all that much.
Complaining about "those old *nix uptimes" is pointless in terms of
average user. It's only servers that actually NEED those uptimes -- and
guess what, you CAN keep Fedora running for a very long time... I have
some FC4 server still chugging away.
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Re: Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 14:08 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:02 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> > On 03/19/2010 02:52 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > I have a little script to start fetchmail, which is activated in
> > > rc.local.  It runs perfectly when started from a root login; but it
> > > fails when started from rc.local.
> > > 
> > > Here is the info:
> > > === Scripts Start ===
> > > $ more rc.local fetchmail-start 
> > > ::
> > > rc.local
> > > ::
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > #
> > > # This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
> > > # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
> > > # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.
> > > 
> > > # Fork a script that will start fetchmail for jonrysh in a few 
> > > seconds
> > > /etc/rc.d/fetchmail-start
> > > 
> > > touch /var/lock/subsys/local
> > > ::
> > > fetchmail-start
> > > ::
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > #
> > > # Start fetchmail for jonrysh
> > > 
> > > su jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'
> > > 
> > > === Messages Start ===
> > > Fetchmail emits the following error message and fails:
> > > fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied
> > > 
> > > What's happening?  How can it be fixed?
> 
> > The perms on /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc need to be 600, with ownership
> > given to jonrysh:jonrysh
> 
> Everything is as you recommend.  Note that the scheme works when invoked
> from a command window running a shell as root, but not from the init
> script.
> 
> > You could also start it without the su by adding it to your own crontab:
> >   @reboot sleep 30 & fetchmail
> 
> Thanks, I'll try this.  But I'd still like to know what's the reason for
> the permission failure when running out of rc.local .  SELinux issues?
> 

this works for me (in rc.local)...

/bin/su - craig -c '/usr/bin/fetchmail' &

Craig


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Re: How do KDE gestures work?

[n2xssvv.g02gfr12930]

On 03/19/2010 05:55 PM, Andre Goree wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:38:24 -0400, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930  
>  wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm at a lose to understand KDE gestures. If I enable them on my Laptop,
>> the touchpad and buttons becomes nigh on useless. So if anyone knows how
>> KDE gestures are useful, or can be made so, please let me know.
>> Otherwise I'd not recommend them.
>>
>> JB
> 
> 
> They "worked" for me when I tried setting them up to be used in  
> Konqueror.  They also caused issues with focus (regarding windows), among  
> other flaky things.  My advice:  don't use them.  They don't seem mature  
> enough yet (the norm with KDE).
> 
> 

Thanks for that. Nice to know it's not just me. Apparently there are
folks out there using KDE 4, (well 4.4.1 with the latest update), after
hearing about all those folks deserting KDE.

JB
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Fedora12 keyboard choice setting is not respected.

[Leslie S Satenstein]

Living in Canada and working bilingually, my keyboard is Canada French ca(fr).  
It is not USA.

I run Fedora12 in English, but the keyboard is the one I mentioned.  Here is 
the problem that recently started to occur.

When I chose my logon, Gnome shows USA as the keyboard.  If I do not change it, 
then the USA keyboard will take precedence over my logged in Gnome settings. 
Furthermore, if I go to System-->preferences-->keyboard, it shows Canada as 
default, and USA as behind it.  Even though I click on Canada, I cannot get rid 
of  the USA settings until I delete it.

If I log out and return, the problem returns.

What can I do to correct this aggravating annoyance?  My problem never occurred 
with earlier Fedora versions (example F4 to F12 pre-February)

Is the USA default forced because I chose English as my basic language.  It was 
no problem in the past, why is it one now?
 



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Re: Fedora12 keyboard choice setting is not respected.

[David Timms]

On 20/03/10 09:02, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> When I chose my logon, Gnome shows USA as the keyboard. If I do not
> change it, then the USA keyboard will take precedence over my logged in
> Gnome settings. Furthermore, if I go to System-->preferences-->keyboard,
...
> It was no problem in the past, why is it one now?
Can you list what locale info is in your grub boot kernel lines, eg:
   LANG=en_AU
   SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
   KEYBOARDTYPE=pc
   KEYTABLE=us
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Re: Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 14:39 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 14:08 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:02 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> > > On 03/19/2010 02:52 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > > I have a little script to start fetchmail, which is activated in
> > > > rc.local.  It runs perfectly when started from a root login; but it
> > > > fails when started from rc.local.
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the info:
> > > > === Scripts Start ===
> > > > $ more rc.local fetchmail-start 
> > > > ::
> > > > rc.local
> > > > ::
> > > > #!/bin/sh
> > > > #
> > > > # This script will be executed *after* all the other init 
> > > > scripts.
> > > > # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
> > > > # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > # Fork a script that will start fetchmail for jonrysh in a few 
> > > > seconds
> > > > /etc/rc.d/fetchmail-start
> > > > 
> > > > touch /var/lock/subsys/local
> > > > ::
> > > > fetchmail-start
> > > > ::
> > > > #!/bin/sh
> > > > #
> > > > # Start fetchmail for jonrysh
> > > > 
> > > > su jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'
> > > > 
> > > > === Messages Start ===
> > > > Fetchmail emits the following error message and fails:
> > > > fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied
> > > > 
> > > > What's happening?  How can it be fixed?
> > 
> > > The perms on /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc need to be 600, with ownership
> > > given to jonrysh:jonrysh
> > 
> > Everything is as you recommend.  Note that the scheme works when invoked
> > from a command window running a shell as root, but not from the init
> > script.
> > 
> > > You could also start it without the su by adding it to your own crontab:
> > >   @reboot sleep 30 & fetchmail
> > 
> > Thanks, I'll try this.  But I'd still like to know what's the reason for
> > the permission failure when running out of rc.local .  SELinux issues?
> > 
> 
> this works for me (in rc.local)...
> 
> /bin/su - craig -c '/usr/bin/fetchmail' &

I tried it, and now things are worse than before.  The startup script
now reads:
#!/bin/sh
#
# Start fetchmail for jonrysh

su - jonrysh -c 'sleep 5; fetchmail'

Now there's an additional error in boot.log:
...
Starting atd:  [
OK  ]
Error opening display!
fetchmail: open: /home/jonrysh/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied

The display did actually start OK after a short delay.  It's a mystery
to me.

Thanks to all - jon




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Re: Charging USB devices with Fedora

[R. G. Newbury]

> "On 04:14:53 am Ambrogio  said"
>> >  Hi all,
>> >  I had 2 different MP3 player that require USB connection to recharging
>> >  it.
>> >  My problem is that I can't be able to charge them.
>> >  USB Connection is good, I can transfer data from and to the devices but
>> >  battery doesn't charge.
>> >  Searching on the web I found something about USB drivers required, or
>> >  about some echo to be done on special files.
>> >  I can't be able to done the job.
>> >  I have two Laptop, one with fedora 10 and one with fedora 12, even if I
>> >  think problem isn't on the version of O.S.
>> >  There is someone that can help me solving the question?
>> >  Bye
>> >Ambrogio
> Does the cable you are using have all 4 wires? Some cables are made for data
> xfer only. try using the cable you have with a usb charger and see if it
> works. I had a similar problem with a phone and it was the cable I was using.
> hth.mike.

Also check for the charging capability with your laptop plugged in an 
charging it's own battery. Some computers will not send a full charging 
current to the port, when running on battery power. The current draw 
while charging is generally way more than the amount USB allows for 
operating a peripheral when the computer is on battery power.
G.

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Re: Troubles starting fetchmail from init scripts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:02 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> You could also start it without the su by adding it to your own
> crontab:
> 
>   @reboot sleep 5 && fetchmail

This works fine, and looks like the "right" way to do it.  
No need to mess with the startup scripts.

Thanks again - jon


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Re: rpm --rebuild: what does it do?

[Stuart McGraw]

On 03/19/2010 02:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 14:03 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> The man page for "rpm --rebuild", with rather excessive 
>> terseness, says:
>> 
>> > [...] use --rebuilddb to rebuild the database indices
>> > from the installed package headers.
>> 
>> I want to backup the "rpm database".  Presumably I
>> do not need to backup the "database indices" since
>> they are recreated by rpm --rebuild.
>> 
>> Can some translate "rpm database" and "database indices"
>> into filenames?  Thanks.
>> 
>> [P.S., I quickly scanned the Max RPM book, especially
>> chapters 6 and 7 and did not find an answer there though
>> it is a long book and I may have missed it.] 
> 
> I thought the answer was simple. The rpm databases are named:
> /var/lib/rpm/__db.00x where x =1,2,3,4
> 
> However I notice there are other files called:
> /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.2702/__db.00x where x=1,2,3
> 
> I  have never seen them before but they seem to be  related to rpm
> --rebuilddb

I think those are left over from a failed/interrupted/partial
rebuild.  When I do a rebuild with -vv here, the last command
shown is "D: removing directory /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.9081"

I did an experiment (actually quite a few but what they 
led to was):

mkdir /tmp/foo

rm /tmp/foo/*
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --initdb
cp -p /var/lib/rpm/__db* /tmp/foo
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --rebuilddb
# All the files in /var/lib/rpm/ are now in /tmp/foo/ but are smaller.
# The __db* files now have current time, not time they had in /var/lib/rpm/.
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --verify coreutils
# 

rm /tmp/foo/*
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --initdb
cp -p /var/lib/rpm/Packages /tmp/foo
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --rebuilddb
# Above comand takes long time.  Sizes of files in /tmp/foo/ now same
# or close to size of files in /var/lib/rpm/.  Time of Packages file
# unchanged from /var/lib/rpm/.
rpm --dbpath /tmp/foo --verify coreutils
# 

>From this is seems like /var/lib/rpm/Packages is *the* 
database.  But I would still appreciate confirmation 
from someone.
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How to remove non-Fedora kernels?

[Antonio Olivares]

Dear fellow Fedora users,

Is thare a way one can remove non Fedora kernels manually, i.e, remove 

/boot/vmlinux-2.?

and 

/usr/src/linux-2.???
or 
/lib/modules/2.6./.


I have compiled two kernels and none of them work as well as Fedora kernel, I 
can't compile modules against them.  

I have compiled 2.6.33.1 kernel from kernel.org, I get bootsplash but booting 
takes longer than Fedora 2.6.32-9 kernel :(,, it has bigger intramfs? see here:

[r...@localhost boot]# ls -l
total 156274
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   103728 2010-01-18 14:19 
config-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   103723 2009-12-21 00:19 
config-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   106746 2010-03-02 23:11 
config-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 1024 2009-11-20 18:53 efi
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 1024 2010-03-19 18:47 grub
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 11355779 2010-01-23 15:58 
initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 11344187 2009-12-27 15:47 
initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 12415536 2010-03-12 18:02 
initramfs-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 95700934 2010-03-19 18:36 initramfs-2.6.33.1.img
-rw---. 1 root root  3560588 2010-01-23 13:21 initrd-2.6.30.img
drwx--. 2 root root12288 2009-11-20 18:38 lost+found
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   25 2010-03-19 18:34 System.map -> 
/boot/System.map-2.6.33.1
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root  1381544 2010-01-23 13:21 System.map-2.6.30
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  1488919 2010-01-18 14:19 
System.map-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  1488752 2009-12-21 00:19 
System.map-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  1669067 2010-03-02 23:11 
System.map-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  1634525 2010-03-19 18:34 System.map-2.6.33.1
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   22 2010-03-19 18:34 vmlinuz -> 
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33.1
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root  3424848 2010-01-23 13:21 vmlinuz-2.6.30
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  3461952 2010-01-18 14:19 
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE 
  
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  3461728 2009-12-21 00:19 
vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE  
  
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  3645024 2010-03-02 23:11 
vmlinuz-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE   
  
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  3628736 2010-03-19 18:34 vmlinuz-2.6.33.1


Thanks in Advance,

Antonio


  
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Re: How to remove non-Fedora kernels?

[Peter Boy]

Am Freitag, den 19.03.2010, 20:41 -0700 schrieb Antonio Olivares:
> Is thare a way one can remove non Fedora kernels manually, i.e, remove 
> 
> /boot/vmlinux-2.?
> 
> and 
> 
> /usr/src/linux-2.???
> or 
> /lib/modules/2.6./.


I used just to delete the files using a terminal as root, provided you
didn't install them using rpm (rm -f /boot/vmlinux-2.??? and all related
files as initrd-2.???, config-2.???. System.map-2.???, etc). And you
have to adjust /boot/grub/menu.lst by remobing the lines no longer
valid.

Or do I miss something?

Peter



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Sorbet on Fedora's future

[Marcel Rieux]

For a while, I've been arguing with very knowledgeable people here
that there are way too many bugs in Fedora, bugs that either hinder a
pleasant user experience or plainly break systems to the point that
one wonders if he's not being hacked. And, for a non-geek like me, get
rid of them before new ones add to the heap, is just impossible.

Developers might not be aware of some bugs I'm experiencing because
they're manifestly hardware related(1), while some others can't have
escaped their attention(2).

(1) The only option available in my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P's BIOS
offering only options for entering passwords, for exemple.

(2) For instance, "New File" entering the clipboard every time a new
file is created.

Some bugs reports, even filed by Red Hat employees, have been
outstanding for so long that most users certainly feel it's no use
filling reports and following the outcome... unless one wants to make
a full time job arguing with geeks on what is worthy bug and what is
not.

In Linux Weekly News, Mr Sorbet... err, make this Corbet, has written
a nonetheless delightful article on the matter of what is causing this
avalanche of bugs in so-called "stable" Fedora releases. To me, the
sorbet of the whole article pretty much freezes down to this:

"(...) the system which Fedora has in place for the review of proposed
updates - Bodhi - is often circumvented by updates which go straight
out to users. The testing and voting which is supposed to happen in
Bodhi is, in fact, not happening much of the time, and the quality of
the distribution is suffering as a result. So some Fedora developers
are looking for ways to beef up the system."

https://lwn.net/Articles/377389/

And rightly so, since not breaking stable releases is the most
fundamental Fedora rule, as expressed here in the Stable release
update vision:

"The update repositories for stable releases of the Fedora
distribution should provide our users with a consistent and high
quality stream of updates."

This, and more very important stuff, under "Vision Statement" at this URL:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision

If this is the Fedora's game, I'm wishing to play. Otherwise, I'll
move to Ubuntu or, as security is important to me, CentOS or
Scientific Linux, soon as RHEL 6 is released.

So, one might ask, what will the contribution of non-geeks to Fedora
be? Well, as I said, I have a problem with my mobo. I also can't get
sound through HDMI to my TV. A recent update has made playing DVDs
impossible... except with Kplayer! (not KMplayer) Etc.

So, if there was a place where I could report those bugs without
registering to 10,000 different bugzillas and dealing with
don't-give-a-shit geeks, I certainly would fill them and would be more
than interested in trying packages in update-testing to see if the fix
works. But I'm certainly not interested in enabling update-testing
just to see if new stuff i don't need works, and possibly break my
system.

If my problems do not concern Fedora/Red Hat developers directly, they
can address the bug to software developers upstream. If bugs take
years to be fixed, maybe they can suggest another software... or
desktop environment be used by default on Fedora. You know, Fedora/Red
Hat certainly has the clout to wake up developers. OTOH, if Red Hat
relies on disgruntled users to fill reports on bugs that never get
fixed, users won't be the only ones to suffer.

As for users/developers who feel more "adventurous", Rawhide does
provide enough of a stampede experience, I would think. That's the
rolling distribution that some are asking for, though, even in this
case. I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea to permit new updates
only every Sunday. But I don't have a solid opinion on this.
Developers are better placed to make an informed decision on this
matter.

Then, as suggested by Matthew Garrett, before a package is moved from
Bohdi to update testing, it should receive the signatures, or "karma",
or whatever, of 3 developers. Developers know each other. If somebody
doesn't do a good job, nobody will want to sign for him. If somebody
always output a clean job, others will almost sign eyes closed.
Signatures put pressure on developers: they know that if their
software always has problems, nobody will sign for them.

Of course, certain projects are more obscure than others, their
software is not as common as, say, a word processor. But the same goes
for the kernel development and, as far as I know, everything bears 3
signatures.

What I wrote here might be in part ill founded. When you're not a
developer, you can't comment with insight. It's an outsider's view,
but a very clear fact remains: whether it's only a rant or a
fullfledged case study, users must be allowed to express their POV
freely and it should be taken into consideration.

Chasing users away with "Why don't you fill (no-use) bug reports?" or
"You don't like it? The code is there, modify it!", the way it is
typically done on Debian and Slackwar