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Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:23:48PM -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: As a matter of fact, as Fedora is mainly financed by Red Hat as a test bench for RHEL. Fedora is more than a test bench for RHEL. I can hardly see how Fedora could stand as a completely separate entity. Legally, Fedora (the trademark) is owned by Red Hat, and the Fedora Project Board is given the authority to manage it. Red Hat is also the largest (but by no means the only) Fedora sponsor. http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors I suppose you'll agree that logos of sponsors do not equate to statutes. The Fedora EMEA As an NPR, Fedora Europe/Middle-East/Africa might have statutes, but it doesn't give Fedora any. CentOS and Scientific Linux are separate entities from Red Hat, not Fedora. Maybe this should be made clearer so that developers understand what kind of project they're involved in. There are advantages working for a major Linux distribution such as Red Hat. Are there enough, I don't know. This is a question I raise in the case study I'm about to submit. Unless you receive a paycheck directly from Red Hat as an employee, you are not working for a major Linux distribution when you contribute to Fedora. You are contributing to Fedora OK. So, you're not working for Fedora, you're contributing work to Fedora. Call it the way you want, it might soon prove difficult to find work contributors. People who contribute applications to Apple's iPhone receive 80¢ per download. If the application is downloaded 1,250,000 times, they make a million. A rare occurence, no doubt, but some developers probably make ~$50,000/year. Whatever the case may be, there's a certain rule that is clearly established. Either you play the game, or you don't but, depending on your capacities as a programmer, you may ambition to earn your life this way, right from the onset. Then, if company X wants to employ you, they'll have to pay accordingly. Google is already playing this game and will play it more when their netbook with ChromeOS is introduced on the market. Soon, Intel/Nokia will join the bandwagon and even Shuttleworth, with his tiny billion, is also at it with Ubuntu One. This will give these companies an occasion to see how developers are appreciated in the real world. The developers' names will be more closely identified to the product than is presently the case in the free software world. (And all of this might eventually prove to work better with the BSD license than the GPL license, but that's another story.) So with a system where the management is calling the shots -- I'll pay you or I won't -- as presently is the case at Red Hat, the least you can say is that developers might not flood to the gates. Developers' job is easy fairly easy to evaluate. You find or you don't find the button; you click it, it works or it doesn't. But what about management? How can developers evaluate management? When a software company such as Red Hat, has been in business for some time, there should be enough money to pay a fair amount to developers. I'm not saying that RH is doing everything wrong but, how is this evaluated at the right now? Sometimes, management gets lazy and, if they can keep the money to themselves, why would they give developers their fair share? As I noted earlier, a certtain former CEO certainly didn't give the developers what they deserved. How can developers be confident that this is not still happening, though to a lesser degree? Though Red Hat is doing fine now, I believe it would be better off questioning its development model before problems arise. By then, it's usually too late to fix them. That's not how business work. It's not time to discuss this here but I certainly believe that developers' contribution should be more fully acknowledged, and I mean this not only in an abstract manner. For the unrest to cease -- because there is some unrest -- the relation between development and management will have to evolve, just to make sure that it's impossible from now on for a CEO and his wife to run away with hundreds of millions $, leaving developers sixpence none the richer(1). (1) Of course, this is now impossible, but a sense of balance must still be established. What are you proposing, exactly? As I said, It's not time to discuss this here. Not yet. If all of Red Hat thinks there's no problem, it's definitely no use for me to work alone and try to come up with solutions, right? Mainly that the solution is the part that will need the most work and that, tomorrow, we'll have incredibly nice weather, here. (10° C higher than past record temperature.) So, I'll certainly take a bike ride instead of writing and see if anybody here can figure out what I'm talking about, I mean enough to show some support, come up with something. You know, contribute. Sorry I can't
Re: Problem with virt-manager
Hi, Only problem is that when XP does the reset after the first part of the install, I get Booting from Hard Disk... A disk read error occurred. Any ideas on this? I'm using the default settings for everything. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/66135 That would explain it. Any ideas on how to pass -hdc into virt-manager? I have my virtual image on /dev/sdc1 (which replaces my usual /home/paul/Documents directory) TTFN Paul -- Biggles was quietly reading his favourite book when Algy burst through the door. Distracted for a moment, Biggles surveyed what had happened and turned a page. Algy old man he said, clearing his throat, use the handle next time... - Taken from Biggles combs his Hair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:)
Hi Don, I finally got straight on what you wanted for strace. I have attached a gzipped copy, but I don't know if it will go through the list, and I lost track of who wanted it. If it doesen't go through let me know and I will send it direct. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Thanks for the file. Actually I wasn't able to find direct root cause for your problem, so I would ask you to paste the output of following commands: $ stat /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox $ ldd -r /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox Thanks, David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM, R. G. Newbury newb...@mandamus.org wrote: From what I have read, you cannot port an existing win instance into a virtual. Not entirely true, for a while I had my original XP partition booting in VirtualBox using a raw partition VMDK[1]. I used separate hardware profiles so I could boot XP natively or in virtual without issue. Richard [1] http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On 04/03/2010 07:22 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Hmm. That I did not know. I'll try rmmod'ing the kvm modules and checking what happens. Virtualbox does not load any modules AFAICT. It just runs as a service against internal kernel structures...which I had always assumed were accessed through the kvm modules. Incorrect. VirtualBox requires a third party kernel module that is not in the Linux kernel and is the primary reason why it is not in the official Fedora repo. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Windows partition?
On 04/01/2010 10:14 AM, Paul wrote: Hi, I've been trying to install XP using qemu for almost 24 hours now. I have one specific task that I need XP for (Winforms design). I can't get Visual C# 2005 to work under Wine or Crossover Office so I need to get something working. I have a shed load of space on a secondary drive, so I was thinking of making a 20Gb partition on it (as FAT32), booting from an XP disc and installing onto there. I don't know if it will be a problem installing to a secondary drive rather than primary, so advise is needed here. Is it safe to do this or am I going to trash things by doing it? I have Windows XP running under Virtualbox on my laptop (no virtualization assist on the chip), as well as on my desktop. I have used both KVM as well as Virtualbox (as I do present Virtualization on the Desktop) to several Boston area user groups. My primary need for running Windows was so that my wife could run RealPlayer superpass. While there is a Linux native Realplayer, the authentication requires MSIE, and the most recent realplayer that works under WINE or Crossover Office is version 8). In my case, sound is mandatory, and I have had success with both Virtualbox (64-bit) and KVM. There are very few reasons you need to run Windows native. If you do not have virtualization enabled on your mother board, then I would strongly suggest that you try Virtualbox. If you do have virtualization support both in the CPU and the BIOS, then KVM is an excellent option. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On 04/02/2010 01:46 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Hi I am sorry if it has been asked before, but could not come up with the search terms to look it and I have not seen discussed on the WIKIs I am totally noob to virtualization and I was planning to start learning myself. I have a dual boot system (FC12, Win2k SP4). My question is ,If I want to convert it to a virtualized system, FC12 as the host system, win2k as a guest OS, do I have to reformat my HD, reinstall FC12, and then install win2k, or can I just install yum install the virtual parts for kvm and have it start as a guest the already isntalled win2k ? Most of your questions have been answered. Neither KVM nor Virtualbox will run windows installed in an existing partition (AFAIK), BUT you can do a PtoV on your Windows 2K system. Probably the best way to do this is to download the VMWare PtoV tool http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/. This generates a VMWare vmdk file, but both KVM (QEMU) and Virtualbox have tools to convert this to native formats. Also, note that Virtualbox has instructions on how to convert physical to virtual on their web site, but I would recommend the free VMWare tool. The way virtual machine managers work is that they create a container file that represent a virtual hard drive. This file sits somewhere on your Linux file system. For my laptop, I have them on a 160GB USB drive. Once you have Win2K installed under KVM or Virtualbox, you can free up that partition to use for your Linux system. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Cups not advertising printers
I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On 04/02/2010 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: AFAIK VBox doesn't use the KVM module. In fact you have to unload it to run VBox. I've never had to unload the KVM module to run Virtualbox. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:)
Hi Don, I finally got straight on what you wanted for strace. I have attached a gzipped copy, but I don't know if it will go through the list, and I lost track of who wanted it. If it doesen't go through let me know and I will send it direct. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Thanks for the file. Actually I wasn't able to find direct root cause for your problem, so I would ask you to paste the output of following commands: $ stat /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox $ ldd -r /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox I removed VirtualBox but it didn't change anything. I wonder if having Google-Chrome could have any effect? I don't think so. I can't understand why I am the only one having this problem. I found some other messages with the couldn't load XPCOM message on google, but they were last year and there was no solution I could see. I see nothing strange in those outputs. Which add-ons do you have installed?. Are all them compatible with current Firefox version?. All up to date? Maybe something got corrupted when you updated firefox and xulrunner?. What's the output of following commands?: $ package-cleanup --problems $ package-cleanup --orphans $ package-cleanup --leaves I would like to avoid removing and installing again firefox and xulrunner, but maybe as last option it would work :-? Regards, David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On 10-04-03 09:54:40, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/03/2010 07:22 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Hmm. That I did not know. I'll try rmmod'ing the kvm modules and checking what happens. Virtualbox does not load any modules AFAICT. It just runs as a service against internal kernel structures...which I had always assumed were accessed through the kvm modules. Incorrect. VirtualBox requires a third party kernel module that is not in the Linux kernel and is the primary reason why it is not in the official Fedora repo. Furthermore, you might need to look at RPMFusion Bugzilla – Bug 1083 VirutalBox-OSE-kmod. Error inserting vboxnetflt and vboxnetadp modules[1]. [1] https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1083 -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 02:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: OK. So, you're not working for Fedora, you're contributing work to Fedora. Call it the way you want, it might soon prove difficult to find work contributors. People who contribute applications to Apple's iPhone receive 80¢ per download. If the application is downloaded 1,250,000 times, they make a million. A rare occurence, no doubt, but some developers probably make ~$50,000/year. Whatever the case may be, there's a certain rule that is clearly established. Either you play the game, or you don't but, depending on your capacities as a programmer, you may ambition to earn your life this way, right from the onset. Then, if company X wants to employ you, they'll have to pay accordingly. Google is already playing this game and will play it more when their netbook with ChromeOS is introduced on the market. Soon, Intel/Nokia will join the bandwagon and even Shuttleworth, with his tiny billion, is also at it with Ubuntu One. This will give these companies an occasion to see how developers are appreciated in the real world. The developers' names will be more closely identified to the product than is presently the case in the free software world. (And all of this might eventually prove to work better with the BSD license than the GPL license, but that's another story.) So with a system where the management is calling the shots -- I'll pay you or I won't -- as presently is the case at Red Hat, the least you can say is that developers might not flood to the gates. Developers' job is easy fairly easy to evaluate. You find or you don't find the button; you click it, it works or it doesn't. But what about management? How can developers evaluate management? When a software company such as Red Hat, has been in business for some time, there should be enough money to pay a fair amount to developers. I'm not saying that RH is doing everything wrong but, how is this evaluated at the right now? Sometimes, management gets lazy and, if they can keep the money to themselves, why would they give developers their fair share? As I noted earlier, a certtain former CEO certainly didn't give the developers what they deserved. How can developers be confident that this is not still happening, though to a lesser degree? Though Red Hat is doing fine now, I believe it would be better off questioning its development model before problems arise. By then, it's usually too late to fix them. That's not how business work. There is no point to a having a discussion with someone that doesn't understand what they are talking about. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Cups not advertising printers
Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? Never mind - something in the morning update fixed it. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Cups not advertising printers
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 10:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? other than a firewall, there's nothing that would prevent cups server from advertising shared printers except cups configuration itself. is cups listening? on what ip addresses? netstat -an|grep 631 Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
David Bartmess wrote: On 4/2/2010 2:06 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Javier Perez wrote: do I have to reformat my HD, reinstall FC12, and then install win2k, or can I just install yum install the virtual parts for kvm and have it start as a guest the already isntalled win2k ? I'm on F12, and I've tried to install kvm via yum, but yum says no matching packages... Is this a F13 thing? sudo yum install kvm returns nothing... yum install qemu\* -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 10:28 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: On 04/02/2010 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: AFAIK VBox doesn't use the KVM module. In fact you have to unload it to run VBox. I've never had to unload the KVM module to run Virtualbox. This is what I get when I try to start a VM: VirtualBox can't operate in VMX root mode. Please disable the KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot (VERR_VMX_IN_VMX_ROOT_MODE). Whereupon I do: sudo modprobe -r kvm_intel and everything works (no kernel recompile or reboot necessary). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On 3 April 2010 09:01, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 02:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: Though Red Hat is doing fine now, I believe it would be better off questioning its development model before problems arise. By then, it's usually too late to fix them. That's not how business work. There is no point to a having a discussion with someone that doesn't understand what they are talking about. I believe its not a discussion if one or more parties have already made up their mind. ;) FWIW, AFAIK the kernel project and all of GNU also work through contributors. ;) Craig -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 09:52 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: On 3 April 2010 09:01, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 02:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: Though Red Hat is doing fine now, I believe it would be better off questioning its development model before problems arise. By then, it's usually too late to fix them. That's not how business work. There is no point to a having a discussion with someone that doesn't understand what they are talking about. I believe its not a discussion if one or more parties have already made up their mind. ;) FWIW, AFAIK the kernel project and all of GNU also work through contributors. ;) GNU obviously is volunteer but I think that it's commonly reported now that the majority of code being written for the Linux kernel is by corporate paid people. http://www.osnews.com/story/22786/75_of_Linux_Code_Written_by_Paid_Developers Is this the 'kernel project' you are speaking about? Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Will Fedora PowerPC support?
Dear Fellow Fedora users, In light of all the postings, there is one that has not been discussed: http://www.osnews.com/story/23071/GNU_Linux_Distros_Silently_Drop_PowerPC Apparently PowerPC support is silently going away, even for Fedora 13, since there was no announcement and checking on Craig's link to 75% of the code from kernel is paid, I saw this and sent it as a heads up. Hope Fedora lets it PowerPC users know about this. Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
Hello All, I have a vt6656 WiFi adapter that needs a separate driver to work in Linux. The driver is neither in native Fedora repos, nor in rpmfusion (at least I don't know how to search for it, so I think it's not there). So whenever I do a 'yum update' and get a new kernel, I have to compile a new kernel module as well. Currently, I first reboot to a new kernel, then compile a module and then do another reboot just to check everything is loading properly on bootup. How do I compile my driver for a new kernel _before_ actually booting into that new kernel, so that I could be prepared with the new kernel module already on first reboot? -- Best regards, Andrew -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 23:04 +0400, Andrew Junev wrote: Hello All, I have a vt6656 WiFi adapter that needs a separate driver to work in Linux. The driver is neither in native Fedora repos, nor in rpmfusion (at least I don't know how to search for it, so I think it's not there). So whenever I do a 'yum update' and get a new kernel, I have to compile a new kernel module as well. Currently, I first reboot to a new kernel, then compile a module and then do another reboot just to check everything is loading properly on bootup. How do I compile my driver for a new kernel _before_ actually booting into that new kernel, so that I could be prepared with the new kernel module already on first reboot? unless something radically changed in the kernel, you could probably just copy the module from /lib/modules/kernel-x to /lib/modules/kernel-y or you could use Matt Domsch's dkms Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
On 3 April 2010 20:04, Andrew Junev a...@a-j.ru wrote: I have a vt6656 WiFi adapter that needs a separate driver to work in Linux. The driver is neither in native Fedora repos, nor in rpmfusion (at least I don't know how to search for it, so I think it's not there). So whenever I do a 'yum update' and get a new kernel, I have to compile a new kernel module as well. Currently, I first reboot to a new kernel, then compile a module and then do another reboot just to check everything is loading properly on bootup. How do I compile my driver for a new kernel _before_ actually booting into that new kernel, so that I could be prepared with the new kernel module already on first reboot? My advice is to investigate whether you can package it to work with DKMS: http://linux.dell.com/dkms/ http://linux.dell.com/dkms/manpage.html You can write infrastructure yourself, you can probably use akmods, but I have done exactly what you require for other kernel modules using DKMS as the infrastructure. FWIW, DKMS doesn't normally pre-build the module, it builds it on first boot into the kernel - so it's not exactly what you want. -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Junev a...@a-j.ru wrote: Hello All, I have a vt6656 WiFi adapter that needs a separate driver to work in Linux. The driver is neither in native Fedora repos, nor in rpmfusion (at least I don't know how to search for it, so I think it's not there). So whenever I do a 'yum update' and get a new kernel, I have to compile a new kernel module as well. Currently, I first reboot to a new kernel, then compile a module and then do another reboot just to check everything is loading properly on bootup. How do I compile my driver for a new kernel _before_ actually booting into that new kernel, so that I could be prepared with the new kernel module already on first reboot? Depending on your source tree there are a few different ways. Most kernel module sources will use 'uname -r' to find the path to the kernel source tree. You may need to set a variable explicitly. For example, I grabbed a vt6656 build from git and saw in the mk.sh script: KDIR=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build You can try passing the kernel version you want to build instead of running uname. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Will Fedora PowerPC support?
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Fellow Fedora users, In light of all the postings, there is one that has not been discussed: http://www.osnews.com/story/23071/GNU_Linux_Distros_Silently_Drop_PowerPC Apparently PowerPC support is silently going away, even for Fedora 13, since there was no announcement and checking on Craig's link to 75% of the code from kernel is paid, I saw this and sent it as a heads up. Hope Fedora lets it PowerPC users know about this. The death knell may have started when Apple moved their systems to Intel processors. It's a community based OS (not Fedora specifically, but the Linux/GNU community at large). If there are no cheap systems to develop code it's hard to get the critical mass to push a distro. RHEL5.5 is available for IBM Power though. I will be installing it on a p550 sometime soon. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Login errors after network change
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: . perhaps there was an issue with the original F12 release that would have gotten fixed if you update to current. System is completely up to date at this point... Yes, there is a mechanism to cache credentials - I am not knowledgeable about this but I think it's about a five minute cache. Believe it or not, it appears to be related to using a VNC session versus logging in directly on the console. I can't say for sure yet, but the VNC logins had been failing and the VMWare console (which is effectively a local console) worked fine. If all else fails, you can get a virtual console, su to root (su -) and then run the tool without any need to get credentials. But I wouldn't know what the command is to launch packagekit (or whatever it is called). That's the thing.. I opened local terminal session and su'd to root, but on running the app it complained that I was a *privileged* user. I'll have some time to look at it tonight and hope to resolve soon.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedra usb ip drivers
hi im clive we are a internet ip software phone company we are currently working on a set of ip usb phone divers for the red hat operating system, we are enquiring weather,their were any drivers for the fedora operating system and if so could you please contact us. thanks clive Clive Coleman Sales Marketing Manager Netwide Communications Eastmoor House Moortown Leeds Ls81ad Tele: 07776492707 fax: 08720220291 Email: netw...@hotmail.com _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On Saturday 03 April 2010 10:08 AM, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 09:52 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: On 3 April 2010 09:01, Craig Whitecraigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 02:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: Though Red Hat is doing fine now, I believe it would be better off questioning its development model before problems arise. By then, it's usually too late to fix them. That's not how business work. There is no point to a having a discussion with someone that doesn't understand what they are talking about. I believe its not a discussion if one or more parties have already made up their mind. ;) FWIW, AFAIK the kernel project and all of GNU also work through contributors. ;) GNU obviously is volunteer but I think that it's commonly reported now that the majority of code being written for the Linux kernel is by corporate paid people. http://www.osnews.com/story/22786/75_of_Linux_Code_Written_by_Paid_Developers Is this the 'kernel project' you are speaking about? Yes I was, but I guess when it started out it was primarily volunteers contributing? Craig -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Capturing verbose exit codes
Hi, Whenever some job is sent to the background and it finishes, it displays a message on the shell with the exit code. Something like this; [1]- Doneemacs [2]+ Terminated gedit I understand that I can get the exit code with $? but is there some way I can get the associated message (Done/Terminated/Sementation Fault...) with the exit code? I want to use this in shell function/scripts to notify me whether any of my submitted jobs succeeded or failed, and if they failed then with what exit code. Thanks for any insights. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Cups not advertising printers
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 10:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? If by works locally you mean i works on the LAN the server is in but not on another LAN containing the clients that is standard behavior for cups. To use cups to serve printers to clients in a different LAN in the /etc/cups/client.conf file you need to have a line: ServerName 70.238.70.20 where in this case 70.238.70.20 is the address of the server. Note: 70.238.70.25 is not address of my cups server. -- === Distrust all those who love you extremely upon a very slight acquaintance and without any visible reason. -- Lord Chesterfield === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 13:40 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: I believe its not a discussion if one or more parties have already made up their mind. ;) FWIW, AFAIK the kernel project and all of GNU also work through contributors. ;) GNU obviously is volunteer but I think that it's commonly reported now that the majority of code being written for the Linux kernel is by corporate paid people. http://www.osnews.com/story/22786/75_of_Linux_Code_Written_by_Paid_Developers Is this the 'kernel project' you are speaking about? Yes I was, but I guess when it started out it was primarily volunteers contributing? if you mean the original kernel, it was written by Linus Torvalds ;-) Red Hat and others have employed people to work on the kernel for many years now. Nothing new here except that as kernel development became more organized and the sheer length of the code has increased dramatically, it became a place where the casual participant became less relevant. In essence, it becomes really difficult to calculate the amount of corporate contribution to any of the projects code base because all of the code contributions come from people who get their paychecks from somewhere. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Capturing verbose exit codes
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 01:53:40PM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: Whenever some job is sent to the background and it finishes, it displays a message on the shell with the exit code. ... ... I understand that I can get the exit code with $? but is there some way I can get the associated message (Done/Terminated/Sementation Fault...) with the exit code? Unfortunately, every exit code is a function of the individual program that last ran, or the shellscript itself. Do a man on the various commands; you'll find a wide range of exit codes. About the only thing you can really count on--usually--is that an exit code of zero means everything was OK. Cheers, -- -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
Hello Kwan, Saturday, April 3, 2010, 11:57:04 PM, you wrote: How do I compile my driver for a new kernel _before_ actually booting into that new kernel, so that I could be prepared with the new kernel module already on first reboot? Depending on your source tree there are a few different ways. Most kernel module sources will use 'uname -r' to find the path to the kernel source tree. You may need to set a variable explicitly. For example, I grabbed a vt6656 build from git and saw in the mk.sh script: KDIR=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build You can try passing the kernel version you want to build instead of running uname. Ok, I see. So there's no common method to do this, right? It may differ from module to module... Initially I thought that's a really simple task... And now it doesn't seem to be like that, especially for those who use multiple custom kernel modules... Ok, thanks a lot! I'll try it first, while starting to read about DKMS... Anyway, I'm curious to do it the right way. -- Best regards, Andrew -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Capturing verbose exit codes
On 03Apr2010 17:07, Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com wrote: | On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 01:53:40PM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: | Whenever some job is sent to the background and it finishes, it displays | a message on the shell with the exit code. ... | ... | I understand that I can get the exit code with $? but is there some way | I can get the associated message (Done/Terminated/Sementation Fault...) | with the exit code? | | Unfortunately, every exit code is a function of the individual program | that last ran, or the shellscript itself. Do a man on the various | commands; you'll find a wide range of exit codes. About the only thing | you can really count on--usually--is that an exit code of zero means | everything was OK. However, in the context of Suvayu's query (getting the _shell_'s job control messages) the codes are universal, since the shell's knowledge is as non-specific as you describe. So the shell can report Terminated and Segmentation Fault reliably and Done versus failed because the wait status has distinct information. So he should be able to check done versus failed ($? == 0 versus nonzero), and he may find the shell returns negative values for terminated by signal N. Core dumps may not be exposed by the shell. Suvayu: try this: sleep 3600 kill -9 $!; wait; echo \$?=$? and repeat with various kill numbers. See if you get anything useful. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Network Planning Constraint Of The Month: You can't send bits over a non-existant link. - Valdis Kletnieks val...@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
dell e6500 lost fn-f8 key with 2.6.32 kernels
In the 2.6.32 kernels, I've seemed to have lost the ability to use the fn-f8 key to togle external displays. Using xev I see that KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x581, root 0x15a, subw 0x582, time 869383, (55,45), root:(93,132), state 0x50, keycode 33 (keysym 0x70, p), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (70) p XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (70) p XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x581, root 0x15a, subw 0x582, time 869531, (55,45), root:(93,132), state 0x50, keycode 33 (keysym 0x70, p), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (70) p XFilterEvent returns: False This works just fine with the 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64, but not with any of the 2.6.32 kernels. Any hints? Thanks. -- Brian Millett - [ Delenn (re: Japanese stone garden), The Gathering] On my world, there are books, thousands of pages, about the power of one mind to change the Universe. But none say it as clearly as this. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?
Gee, I almost missed this one! On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Thomas Cameron thomas.came...@camerontech.com wrote: I must confess that I'm not very strong on opinions; I'm better on facts. Then you should probably try finding some. The drivel below is complete fantasy. 2006. Microsoft sends a letter to Red Hat pretending that the Linux kernel infringes 235 of their patents and that they'll have to pay royalties. Wrong. Red Hat answers: Yeah, no problem! Send the patent list. Somehow, it seems that Microsoft lost the list. Red Hat, who was eager to pay, never received it. So wrong as to be laughable. Red Hat has maintained all along that there is nothing to pay, that Microsoft has never actually provided evidence of any infringement. Red Hat made crystal clear that it did not enter into any patent agreement with Microsoft when it did the cross-certification work last year around running Windows as a guest on on RHEL and running RHEL as a guest on Windows. See Q5 at http://www.redhat.com/promo/svvp/ (...) Seriously - next time you pump this crap onto the list, please check your facts. So, Thomas Cameron thinks I really meant Red Hat was waiting for Microsoft's patent infringement list with a check book in hand? Interesting... Red Hat is no place for Olympia Academy style pranksters, just for brain dead serious people, right? Google, you better beware! Thanks for the insight! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Capturing verbose exit codes
On Saturday 03 April 2010 04:22 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 03Apr2010 17:07, Dave Ihnatdih...@dminet.com wrote: | On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 01:53:40PM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: | Whenever some job is sent to the background and it finishes, it displays | a message on the shell with the exit code. ... | ... | I understand that I can get the exit code with $? but is there some way | I can get the associated message (Done/Terminated/Sementation Fault...) | with the exit code? | | Unfortunately, every exit code is a function of the individual program | that last ran, or the shellscript itself. Do a man on the various | commands; you'll find a wide range of exit codes. About the only thing | you can really count on--usually--is that an exit code of zero means | everything was OK. However, in the context of Suvayu's query (getting the _shell_'s job control messages) the codes are universal, since the shell's knowledge is as non-specific as you describe. So the shell can report Terminated and Segmentation Fault reliably and Done versus failed because the wait status has distinct information. So he should be able to check done versus failed ($? == 0 versus nonzero), and he may find the shell returns negative values for terminated by signal N. Core dumps may not be exposed by the shell. Suvayu: try this: sleep 3600 kill -9 $!; wait; echo \$?=$? and repeat with various kill numbers. See if you get anything useful. Thank you Cameron for the hints! With some more thinking and some help from my roomie, I found something useful to work with. Substituting `n' below gives me quite a bit to experiment with. :) $ sleep 3600 $ pid=$! ;kill -n $pid;wait $pid;echo $pid exited with $? Cheers, Thanks a lot. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On 04/03/2010 12:52 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM, R. G. Newburynewb...@mandamus.org wrote: ?From what I have read, you cannot port an existing win instance into a virtual. Not entirely true, for a while I had my original XP partition booting in VirtualBox using a raw partition VMDK[1]. I used separate hardware profiles so I could boot XP natively or in virtual without issue. well I guess I could quibble that I used the words 'port ...into a virtual', but that IS really cool: fooling VBox into believing an actual harddrive partition is a VMDK image! Kudos are due!. Is the magic posted anywhere? 'Cause there are probably lots of people who could benefit or who would be interested. Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Cups not advertising printers
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 10:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? If by works locally you mean i works on the LAN the server is in but not on another LAN containing the clients that is standard behavior for cups. Actually, locally meant only on the loopback interface, get get much more local than that. To use cups to serve printers to clients in a different LAN in the /etc/cups/client.conf file you need to have a line: ServerName 70.238.70.20 Not doing anything that fancy. Good tip, tho, I filed it in my list of things I might someday need to configure a system. where in this case 70.238.70.20 is the address of the server. Note: 70.238.70.25 is not address of my cups server. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Cups not advertising printers
Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 10:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm installing a new print server, and it's not serving. I've configured the printer, it works locally, but even though I checked share the ipp packets are only sent locally. My existing servers are on FC6, and work fine (private net) but the administrative tools for FC12 are totally different. Interestingly, when I try to add a printer, the client doesn't show any network printers and when I try to explicitly look on the server I get a message: It is not possible to get a list of queues from `ps3.tmr.com' Obtaining a list of queues is a CUPS extension to IPP. Network printers do not support it. Firewall is open, sharing enabled, what security enhancement do I have to disable this time? other than a firewall, there's nothing that would prevent cups server from advertising shared printers except cups configuration itself. is cups listening? on what ip addresses? netstat -an|grep 631 Listening yes, advertising, no. After update and a reboot, the cupsd.conf was rewritten, my two lines telling it to listen on Localhost and the IP of the external NIC (tweo LISTEN entries in netstat) replaced with one *:631 line in the config file, and instead of listening one two IPs it now listens and advertised on *;631 (or 0.0.0.0:631 to netstat). Thank you for the thoughts, I am saving them in case I see this again, but I tried a boot off a Live-CD (CF13) and changed the Localhost to * and reloaded, and that worked as well. About 40% of the tips I save in my notes are things that didn't solve the problem I had at the moment, but were useful against problems I can expect to have in the future. THANKS, ALL! -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to compile kernel module for a new kernel before reboot?
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 08:21:34PM +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: FWIW, DKMS doesn't normally pre-build the module, it builds it on first boot into the kernel - so it's not exactly what you want. There is now a kernel install-time hook, such that when a new kernel is installed, DKMS can build its modules for that kernel. You don't have to wait for a reboot for the dkms_autoinstaller service to do it then. Thanks for the plugs. -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Capturing verbose exit codes
On 03Apr2010 18:06, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: | On Saturday 03 April 2010 04:22 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: | So the shell can report Terminated and Segmentation Fault reliably and | Done versus failed because the wait status has distinct information. | So he should be able to check done versus failed ($? == 0 versus | nonzero), and he may find the shell returns negative values for | terminated by signal N. Core dumps may not be exposed by the shell. | | Suvayu: try this: | | sleep 3600 | kill -9 $!; wait; echo \$?=$? | | and repeat with various kill numbers. See if you get anything useful. | | | Thank you Cameron for the hints! With some more thinking and some help | from my roomie, I found something useful to work with. Substituting `n' | below gives me quite a bit to experiment with. :) | | $ sleep 3600 | $ pid=$! ;kill -n $pid;wait $pid;echo $pid exited with $? You should also read man 2 wait and likewise for wait3, wait4 and waitpid (possibly man 3 blah for some of these, and they may all show up on the same manpage). That will give you an idea of what information the shell gets to know after a process exits. And to get an idea of what you may expect on UNIX systems in general as opposed to linux in particular, use 3p instead of 2 and 3 above; that will get you the corresponding POSIX manual on most linux systems. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Besides, it's good to force C programmers to use the toolbox occasionally. :-) - Larry Wall in 1991may31.181659.28...@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 22:05 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: Kudos are due! Sorry, I just can't let this go by: kudos *is* due (look it up). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:)
-- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:30:31 +0200 From: David Garc?a Granda dgra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:) To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: p2j7e5980ea1004030730zf2b9a61ep6b6aa670c22f5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Don, I finally got straight on what you wanted for strace. I have attached a gzipped copy, but I don't know if it will go through the list, and I lost track of who wanted it. If it doesen't go through let me know and I will send it direct. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Thanks for the file. Actually I wasn't able to find direct root cause for your problem, so I would ask you to paste the output of following commands: $ stat /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox $ ldd -r /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.9/firefox I removed VirtualBox but it didn't change anything. I wonder if having Google-Chrome could have any effect? I don't think so. I can't understand why I am the only one having this problem. I found some other messages with the couldn't load XPCOM message on google, but they were last year and there was no solution I could see. I see nothing strange in those outputs. Which add-ons do you have installed?. Are all them compatible with current Firefox version?. All up to date? The only add-on is addblock-plus Since I erased firefox and re-installed it, I am not sure it is still there. Since I can't run firefox, I am not real sure. I looked up the extensions in the profiles in ~/.mozilla and all I see is addblock Maybe something got corrupted when you updated firefox and xulrunner?. What's the output of following commands?: $ package-cleanup --problems $ package-cleanup --orphans $ package-cleanup --leaves output attached- problems said no problems found I would like to avoid removing and installing again firefox and xulrunner, but maybe as last option it would work :-? I have tried RI firefox with no success. I will try xulrunner When I removed xulrunner, Yum removed firefox again so i have to go reinstall it. Regards, David Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit RealPlayer-11.0.2.1744-20091006.i586 adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch autoten-4.4-0.fc12.noarch flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386 goffice04-0.4.3-5.fc11.i586 kernel-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.19.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686 kernel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.27.38-170.2.113.fc10.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 kernel-devel-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.i586 kernel-devel-2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i586 kernel-devel-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.31.12-174.2.19.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686 kernel-devel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686 libdhcp4client-4.0.0-37.fc10.i386 libdvdcss-1.2.10-1.i386 libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586 livna-release-1-1.noarch msttcore-fonts-2.0-3.noarch picasa-3.0.5744-02.i386 wine-doors-0.1.3-1.noarch Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-143.i686 compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686 djvulibre-libs-3.5.21-3.fc12.i686 empathy-libs-2.28.2-2.fc12.i686 gpac-libs-0.4.6-0.4.cvs20090919.fc12.i686 imlib2-1.4.2-5.fc12.i686 libXevie-1.0.2-7.fc12.i686 libbtctl-0.11.1-3.fc12.i686 libdhcp4client-4.0.0-37.fc10.i386 libdvdcss-1.2.10-1.i386 liberation-mono-fonts-1.05.1.20090721-2.fc12.noarch liberation-sans-fonts-1.05.1.20090721-2.fc12.noarch liberation-serif-fonts-1.05.1.20090721-2.fc12.noarch libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.110.22.p23-3.fc12.noarch libgdiplus-devel-2.4.2-3.fc12.i686 libproxy-mozjs-0.2.3-12.fc12.i686 libpst-0.6.44-1.fc12.i686 libpurple-2.6.6-2.fc12.i686 libsane-hpaio-3.10.2-2.fc12.i686 libsexy-0.1.11-13.fc12.i686 libtelepathy-0.3.3-3.fc12.i686 libtextcat-2.2-10.fc12.i686 libunicapgtk-0.9.8-1.fc12.i686 libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586 libwiimote-0.4-9.fc12.i686 lzma-libs-4.32.7-3.fc12.i686 xen-libs-3.4.2-1.fc12.i686 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:)
I would like to avoid removing and installing again firefox and xulrunner, but maybe as last option it would work :-? Regards, David After removing and re-installing xulrunner (which removed and re-installed firefox again ), I ran firefox from a terminal and got back a little bit more info than before. firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-plugin-config: line 73: 3364 Segmentation fault $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config -f /dev/null 21 Couldn't load XPCOM. the lines near line 73 are: # Set-up installed plugins if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config -f /dev/null 21 else $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config $* fi As usual, that doesn't help me at all. Any ideas? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox not running : unable to load XPCOM (was Re:)
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 22:20 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Don, That actually helps a lot. :) On Saturday 03 April 2010 09:49 PM, Don Vogt wrote: I would like to avoid removing and installing again firefox and xulrunner, but maybe as last option it would work :-? Regards, David After removing and re-installing xulrunner (which removed and re-installed firefox again ), I ran firefox from a terminal and got back a little bit more info than before. firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-plugin-config: line 73: 3364 Segmentation fault $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config -f /dev/null 21 Couldn't load XPCOM. the lines near line 73 are: # Set-up installed plugins if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config -f /dev/null 21 else $WRAPPER_LIB_DIR/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config $* fi 'nspluginwrapper' usually should be avoided unless you can't absolutely do without it. Since you mentioned you don't have any add-ons other than Adblock Plus installed and you are on a 32 bit system, I would presume you don't need nspluginwrapper. As a confirmatory step could you check whether you have nspluginwrapper installed using the following command? $ yum list installed nspluginwrapper If that lists it as installed, I would suggest removing it. To remove try this, (as root) # yum remove nspluginwrapper As usual, that doesn't help me at all. Any ideas? Hopefully this will solve your problems. :) probably but to be honest, I haven't been tracking this problem but generally, you can just nuke the file, ~/.mozilla/firefox/YOUR_SALTED_PROFILE/pluginreg.dat and it will be rebuilt on the next Firefox startup. and more to the point, you can temporarily move your whole ~/.mozilla folder to another name and it will be created again which is a very quick way to test if something in your .mozilla/firefox directory is causing a problem. Don't nuke this folder unless you are prepared to lose your bookmarks, passwords, etc. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
