Re: [OT] List Mail From Address
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 23:16 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Hey Mr/Ms list coordinator, > > Is it possible to get the list mail to bear the return address of the > mail list instead of the address of the person who sent the mail to the > list? > > I've subscribed to several other lists that work that way. It makes it > so much easier to sort out all the list email from all my normal email. > I waste a lot of time trying to sort out the Fedora list mail from my > normal mail that I could be using to help answer list questions. The Reply-To header points back to the list, not to the sender, and is trivially easy to filter on. What's the problem? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need help to get my parallel port working.
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 23:03 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > I've reinstalled F8 on my old MSI mb. I've got the printer working > again. Now I'm going to set up all the rest of the services that I > want before I try to upgrade from F8 to F9. Note that neither of these is supported, hence will not receive even critical bug and security updates. If you want to use Fedora, be prepared to stay current (i.e. F11 or F12, soon F12 or F13). If you want long-term stability, a different distro might suit you better, e.g. RHEL or Centos. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Strange issue with ceasing IO operations
I'm having an issue with my server. After successful installation of F12 the system works normally for a while and then seems like all IO operations cease. I am not able to access anything from the disk so only the cached commands work. The CPU utilization is very low while load average is through the roof along with IOWAIT pegged at close to 100%. There is no disk activity at all. There are no errors anywhere. Everything seems to be in order. I think this is related to the software RAID I setup on the system. I have four 1 TB Western Digital Green drives configured using BIOS configuration into RAID10. I'm just not sure what the heck is going on. I'm not sure this is motherboard/CPU/memory related because I tried it with two different computers and the only thing that I moved between them were the drives. Any ideas how I could troubleshoot this further? -- Thank you, Ziemowit Pierzycki -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] List Mail From Address
On 04/27/2010 11:16 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Hey Mr/Ms list coordinator, > > Is it possible to get the list mail to bear the return address of the > mail list instead of the address of the person who sent the mail to the > list? > > I've subscribed to several other lists that work that way. It makes it > so much easier to sort out all the list email from all my normal email. > I waste a lot of time trying to sort out the Fedora list mail from my > normal mail that I could be using to help answer list questions. > > > What is so hard about sorting on the "To" address or "Reply-To"? Don't you think, if this was such a problem it wouldn't have been addressed long ago? -- Alas, I am dying beyond my means. -- Oscar Wilde [as he sipped champagne on his deathbed] Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade??
On 04/27/2010 03:19 AM, Beartooth wrote: > Since it's late April, with F13 due next month, I presume that > preupgrade must working, or about to start working, no? But I've seen > precious few posts here about it -- and in view of the things ordinary > updates seem to've been breaking lately, I'm a little spooky. > > Any word on it? > I've been testing and have had problems with Fedora 13 x86-64. It installs ok but produces an error message regarding faulty code in a .py file which persists even after upgrading python after fresh install from iso. This code fault can appear with no apps running, not even screen saver and after a full upgrade to a working system. Do not update or upgrade xorg-X11-anything as it stops the system from completing boot at "loading atd". I'm still trying to determine which of the xorg-X11 components is at fault. I believe that it's something to do with xorg-X11-server-common but have insufficient proof. I stayed with nouveau and did not attempt nvidia installation. Do not use PackageKit for upgrade, install or update it takes longer (around 5-6 hours) to upgrade than yum (2-3 hours) and is disappointingly lax with progress information. Stopping it kills the system necessitating reinstall. PackageKit will sit for hours after download completion with nill indication of what is happening, it looks like it's stopped or finished. This is dangerous as any attempt to do anything kills the system requiring reinstall. You need some 6 hours to spare. Use to see visually that it's using between 20 and 100 percent cpu time, 40 percent memory, nil swap nil network movement. Sometimes it will sit for an hour or more using 10-20 percent cpu time, nothing else - do not touch anything during this process it will kill the system. With packagekit you can deselect unwanted components but it will install them anyway. For instance, xorg-X11 drivers for about 20 video cards, Bluetooth, a dozen foreign language fonts catalan, chinese, indian, malay, tibetan, etc. Printer selection system still does not work well. For some reason Fedora still does not provide a method to connect to usb printers since F10. Its limited to network, serial, etc. Golly who uses serial printers these days. You will have to manually install the relevant PPD for your printer and using the serial selections point it to the ppd file by redirecting the device URI to usb:// what-ever-your-printer-is. Yum and yumex, both no problems. Multiple vertex selection in Blender is still very poor with nouveau but the 3d has improved significantly. Open Office, Scribus, Gimp all work seamlessly. Gutenprint and Gimp-print work if the above is completed. Due to having to reinstall so many times I have not tried other apps. These are my findings, they may not be general. The question: Why don't I report this through bugzilla. 1. I have to register while using the system a reinstall kills that registration and I can't reregister or log in under the same details. 2. bugzilla has rejected several of my reports because I cannot include appropriate debug information so I no longer bother. I use the apps, I 'm not technical expert. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[OT] List Mail From Address
Hey Mr/Ms list coordinator, Is it possible to get the list mail to bear the return address of the mail list instead of the address of the person who sent the mail to the list? I've subscribed to several other lists that work that way. It makes it so much easier to sort out all the list email from all my normal email. I waste a lot of time trying to sort out the Fedora list mail from my normal mail that I could be using to help answer list questions. Mark LaPierre -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need help to get my parallel port working.
Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 04/17/2010 08:30 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> I can not get my parallel port to connect to my printer. The printer >> was working with F8. Then I upgraded to F10. The printer has not >> worked since. >> >> Now I have F12 32 bit installed. I've tried everything I can think of >> including messing with the CMOS settings from Yes PNP OS to No PNP OS. >> >> When I first started trying to diagnose this problem I used the >> System/Administration tools to debug the printer problems. Several >> problems, such as incorrect file ownership, were found and corrected. >> Now I get no further issues when I print but I also get nothing coming >> from the printer. The printing queue says that the job is "Processing" >> but askes, "Is the printer connected?" Remember, this is the same >> printer, and same cable that was working with F8. Only the software has >> been changed to confuse the innocent. >> >> I've uninstalled the printer driver and cups, rebooted the machine, >> reinstalled cups. Downloaded a current copy of the Linux driver from >> the printer manufacturer and installed the driver. No joy. :-( >> >> I've spent a couple of days poking around the internet looking for help >> with this issue. I've found a lot of people having problems getting >> their parallel printers working with F12 that had worked with previous >> versions of Fedora but none of those posts have helped. >> >> Here is the results of the poking around that I've done. >> >> lspci -v >> 01:08.0 Parallel controller: NetMos Technology PCI 9865 Multi-I/O >> Controller (prog-if 03 [IEEE1284]) >> Subsystem: Device a000:2000 >> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 >> I/O ports at bc00 [size=8] >> I/O ports at b480 [size=8] >> Memory at f8efe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] >> Memory at f8efd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] >> Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 >> >> modprobe -c >> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc >> options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=3 >> >> lsmod | grep parport >> parport_pc 17509 1 >> parport27256 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc >> >> >> The ball's in your court now Y'all. Does anyone have any ideas how I >> can further diagnose the problem and get the printer singing again? >> >> Mark >> >> > > I bought a new parallel cable. No joy. > I bought a USB to parallel cable. The printer now makes noise but it's > not happy printing noise. Still no joy > Hey all, F8 will not install on my new XFX 750a SLI nFORCE motherboard. The SATA port driver doesn't seem to work correctly. I can nether intall F8 on it nor can I install F8 on my original MSI motherboard, then transfer the HD to the XFX mb. It just will not read from the SATA DVD or HD after the initial boot record is read. I've reinstalled F8 on my old MSI mb. I've got the printer working again. Now I'm going to set up all the rest of the services that I want before I try to upgrade from F8 to F9. Then I'm going to get everything working again. Then I'll install the new XFX mb, which I know works with F9, and try to get that system to work with my printer. I suppose if all that fails I'll just buy a new SATA IDE interface card, if such a thing exists, and just keep the old MSI mb. Again, I'll keep you all updated on my efforts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: on updated f12 system, wireless suddenly vanishes
On 04/27/2010 10:22 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > a bit of a mystery here ... after wireless has worked just fine on > this laptop for months on end, i show up at a friend's place after > work, fire up the laptop, expect to connect to his wireless same as > usual and ... nothing. > > check the network settings thru network manager and not only is > wireless not active, the setting is greyed out so i can't even select > it to activate it. how odd. > > "ifconfig -a" shows a wlan0 interface, but it's not up. then > there's iwconfig: > > wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated > Tx-Power=off > Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > If "ifconfig" without the -a doesn't show the interface then... > > if i try to scan with that interface: > > # iwlist wlan0 scan > wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down > Is not unusual. The same thing happens here. But, all I have to do is us the NM applet and check "Enable Wireless". And all is back to normal. > # > > and > > # ifconfig wlan0 up > SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 > # > > time to start googling, of course, but all of this came on suddenly > and for no apparent reason. thoughts? > > My minor thoughts are above. My system is a desktop with a wireless embedded on the motherboard that I don't normally use. I suppose the question is...what is your HW and is the driver loaded? -- Q: How many Zen masters does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master stays out of the way. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
on updated f12 system, wireless suddenly vanishes
a bit of a mystery here ... after wireless has worked just fine on this laptop for months on end, i show up at a friend's place after work, fire up the laptop, expect to connect to his wireless same as usual and ... nothing. check the network settings thru network manager and not only is wireless not active, the setting is greyed out so i can't even select it to activate it. how odd. "ifconfig -a" shows a wlan0 interface, but it's not up. then there's iwconfig: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=off Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off if i try to scan with that interface: # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down # and # ifconfig wlan0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 # time to start googling, of course, but all of this came on suddenly and for no apparent reason. thoughts? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12 crash
Filippo, If you don't mind can you please send the configuration files. In the meantime, I passed my Z800 to the IT technicians, they diagnosed a hardware problem and changed the system board. Not sure if I want to install fedora; thinking of changing to red hat as it seems more stable. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Fil-ShinyMetal wrote: > Nermin, > After the very first update of my FC12_64 I've got the same problem on a > couple of Z800, and seems related to the video hardware. > My Z800s has 3 disks, 1 for the boot and 2 1 TB in software raid1 and a > runnlevel 3, so I can log in normally. > A startx does a 2 seconds of heavy work on the disks then reboots and no > more disks are visible, so a poweroff is the only thing I can do. > However, using the kernel found in the installation dvd my Z800s runs fine. > The nomodeset solution proposed in the fedora12 bug lists and the bios > update from HP doesn't solved the problem for me. > I'm still looking for a solution, even if the systems are running fine. > If you are still interested, I will file you the detailed description of > my Z800s configuration ( tomorrow I will be in office ) > > Filippo > > > Skype shinymetal-skype > Questa e-mail, ed i suoi eventuali allegati, contengono informazioni > confidenziali e riservate. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore > siete pregati di eliminare sia questa e-mail che gli eventuali allegati > dalla vostra casella e avvisare il mittente. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 14:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:15:39 -0400 > Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > connects > > at boot > > I still have to disable it in f13 to get my static IP address > to work correctly at boot time. > AIUI, you should be able to edit the connection from nm-applet, check "connect automatically", select "manual" in the "IPv4" tab and fill in your data. If not, you should report the bug in Red Hat's bugzilla or GNOME's, or discuss your experience on the NetworkManager list at gnome.org. I have it running on a server with no problem, but I think I may have configured it in system-config-network or at install time. It is set to be "controlled by NM", "activated on start", static IP. The network service is off and the NetworkManager service is on. Starts up and connects just fine for me. /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 contains: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none DNS1=XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX GATEWAY=192.168.10.3 HWADDR=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX IPADDR=192.168.10.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet PREFIX=24 NAME="System eth0" UUID= -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 04/27/2010 02:39 AM, David Bartmess wrote: > On 4/26/2010 10:29 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: >> >> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it >> now three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot >> of the newly installed system, I get the login screen. The first time >> when I installed, I used a password that I always use as a default, >> at least I thought, I wasn't 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out >> the quotes and type in the default password that I always use. >> "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. >> >> Okay, another 6 hours of installation, this time I write down the >> password that I typed in for root. Another reboot without the live CD >> to the clean install, and I get the login screen. I type "root" and >> the written down password. Same thing "Authentication Failed". >> >> That night I start another 6 hours of a clean install and this time I >> use the word "password" for the requested password. I know that I can >> not mess that up. >> >> The next day I come in to a clean install from the Live CD and I get >> the login screen. I type "root" and "password". "Authentication >> Failed" >> >> If I wanted an operating system that all it does is display >> "Authentication Failed", I'd be in business. I was hoping it would do >> more than that. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Nathan Woodruff >> > > You're not doing anything wrong. Fedora Gnome doesn't allow root > access from the signon screen. You have to sign in using a user id > other than root, and then su - to get to the root login. > During the installation it asks for a root password. After installation and rebooting it asks you to provide a user name and password. Complete this information with your own username and a suitable password then it will display the log in screen where you enter your own username and password to start the system as a user. To get root from a terminal is quite another process. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade??
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: >> > The question is will F13 resize /boot on an upgrade or will the 500Mb > /boot appear only if you do a fresh install? I really don't want to > have to re-install to get the bigger /boot. > Doesn't look like it made it into this version, at least not yet: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F13_bugs#Preupgrade_doesn.27t_work_with_default-sized_.2Fboot_partition -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade??
On 04/26/2010 04:59 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:31:05AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > >> On 04/26/2010 10:19 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> >>> Since it's late April, with F13 due next month, I presume that >>> preupgrade must working, or about to start working, no? But I've seen >>> precious few posts here about it -- and in view of the things ordinary >>> updates seem to've been breaking lately, I'm a little spooky. >>> >>> Any word on it? >>> >>> >> I used it once to upgrade a system and it worked fine. However, to make >> it work I had to remove almost everything from /boot because the default >> size of 200Mb is too small to work with preupgrade. If your /boot is >> 200Mb I would suggest upgrading via dvd rather than preupgrade. >> > Right, that's been a sort of painful transition, which is one reason > why preupgrade isn't as "official" as it should someday be. > > Now Fedora by default installs a 500 MB /boot, which should be > sufficient for the foreseeable future. (Admittedly in free software, > things change rapidly so the horizon of "foreseeable" isn't as long as > you might find in crustier realms.) ;-) > > The question is will F13 resize /boot on an upgrade or will the 500Mb /boot appear only if you do a fresh install? I really don't want to have to re-install to get the bigger /boot. Paolo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade??
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:31:05AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > On 04/26/2010 10:19 AM, Beartooth wrote: > > Since it's late April, with F13 due next month, I presume that > > preupgrade must working, or about to start working, no? But I've seen > > precious few posts here about it -- and in view of the things ordinary > > updates seem to've been breaking lately, I'm a little spooky. > > > > Any word on it? > > > I used it once to upgrade a system and it worked fine. However, to make > it work I had to remove almost everything from /boot because the default > size of 200Mb is too small to work with preupgrade. If your /boot is > 200Mb I would suggest upgrading via dvd rather than preupgrade. Right, that's been a sort of painful transition, which is one reason why preupgrade isn't as "official" as it should someday be. Now Fedora by default installs a 500 MB /boot, which should be sufficient for the foreseeable future. (Admittedly in free software, things change rapidly so the horizon of "foreseeable" isn't as long as you might find in crustier realms.) ;-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 03:24:54PM +0200, Gergely Buday wrote: > Hi there, > > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? You can make a network interface available on boot by marking it as available to all users. I do this with my laptop for the open wireless in my home, so I can make sure that even if I'm not logged in, as long as it's on I'm able to SSH it to it from elsewhere in the house. There's good documentation available here for NM: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 01:42:40PM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 26 April 2010 11:40 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:15:39 -0400 > > Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > >> connects > >> at boot > > > > I still have to disable it in f13 to get my static IP address > > to work correctly at boot time. > > I get a static IP within my local network behind the router with NM > without any fiddling. I am even connected to the network on boot (I m > presuming being able to use yum in runlevel 3 is proof to that). > > Is that what you mean? I have a static IP working fine with NetworkManager. Run system-config-network or edit the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or the appropriate file for the interface) by hand, and add: NM_CONTROLLED=no to the file. That means NetworkManager will not try to fiddle with it. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora Community Gaming
A suggestion was made to have game sessions for the community playing games available in Fedora. A pilot project has been started and the first session will be this Friday (or Saturday depending on timezone). For background you can find the original request at: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/ticket/18 A wiki page for this project is at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Gaming The first session will start this Friday at 9pm EDT (0100 UTC Saturday). We will be playing bzflag and attempting to use Fedora Talk (x2010) as a social channel, as chatting socially by typing, while playing bzflag seems hard to do. bzflag is a pretty light, chaotic game that allows for easy dropping in and out. The session will last at least 2 hours, but will go longer if people actually show up and want to keep playing. games1.wolff.to will be set up as a private server, but you will just be able to connect without any special password. Before we start playing we will be using the #fedora-games IRC channel to communicate in case there are problems. If you think it's likely you'll show up you can add you name in the wiki so we know how many people to expect. The week after we will be running a Wesnoth session, using the in game chat for socializing. That's a much different game and will probably appeal to a different group of people. After that, it depends on the response both a of players and people willing to sponsor games. At least initially we want to try a lot of different stuff. The first two being at the same time has to do with my schedule. I would hope that other people run game sessions at different times in order to be more accessible to other people. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On 04/27/2010 06:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:42:40 -0700 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > >> Is that what you mean? >> > Yep. I had no network operating when I installed f13 > beta till I disabled NM and enabled network again. Just > errors with any attempt to access the network. I didn't > pay much attention to why, I just assumed it was still > busted. Everything works fine with network. > Well, I just installed an F13 system as a VM. Using NM with static address and no problems at all. FWIW, I only had a "problem" when I once forgot and assigned a static address that was in the range to be doled out by my DHCP server. Not a good idea to have 2 systems with the same IP on a LAN. :-) Anyway, if you have time you may want to go back and find out what the issue was. Or, you may end up bad mouthing NM for no reason...or at least the wrong reason. Kind of like what happens with some folks and selinux. :-) :-) -- Fun Facts, #14: In table tennis, whoever gets 21 points first wins. That's how it once was in baseball -- whoever got 21 runs first won. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 12-KVM-Windows 7
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:25:36 -0400 > Jim wrote: > >> Installing Windows 7 in KVM and Fedora 12 , would win 7 be slower in virt. >> >> Good or Bad Ideal ? > > Don't know about Windows 7, but my XP virtual machine runs faster > on my fedora box as a KVM than my real windows XP box runs (of course > the real Windows XP box is on slower hardware :-). > > The only thing that seems slower is disk I/O, and that is probably > because I mostly use a network filesystem for everything. I suspect > the redhat virtio drivers and an LVM backed disk image would even > make disk I/O almost as good as real hardware. That's been my experience. Unfortunately, Win7 seems to hit the disk quite a bit more than Linux so the slowdown is magnified. A Google query for "windows 7 disk activity" will show thousands of hits and steps to minimize the disk access. You might even go as far as isolating the Win7 systems to their own disks if possible otherwise it will kill throughput to the other instances. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: recent network breakage on f12?
users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > From: wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) > > I'm seeing several of my laptops fail to get a dhcp lease after the > April-23 yum update for f12. The server sees the dhcp request and > issues the correct IP address, but the client never seems to act upon > it. Both eth0 and wlan0 never have IPv4 addresses assigned. Strangely > IPv6 addresses do get assigned correctly (bith link-local and global) so > it isn't a case of the ethernet or wlan being down. Those requests do > go out and the reply gets acted upon. > > Both NetowrkManager and dhclient were updated within the last two days. > I wonder if something is broken there. Are other folks seeing the same > breakage? I'm seeing network - and bluetooth - breakage. I did a 'yum update' on Saturday, and I've been unable to connect to the internet using bluetooth since. Connecting my phone also no longer shows up in the Mobile Broadband section of NetworkManager. It's now also prompting me for the root password when I change the CPU speed setting. All very strange. From my log when I try to connect to my Nokia phone with PANU: Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) starting connection 'Honami - PANU' Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: (00:26:69:63:4E:0A): device state change: 3 -> 4 (reason 0) Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: (00:26:69:63:4E:0A): device state change: 4 -> 5 (reason 0) Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki bluetoothd[1139]: link_key_request (sba=00:15:83:07:CD:17, dba=00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki bluetoothd[1139]: bnep0 connected Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A bnep0/bluetooth) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. Will connect via PAN. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: (00:26:69:63:4E:0A): device state change: 5 -> 7 (reason 0) Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (bnep0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds) Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: dhclient started with pid 3344 Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 4 of 5 (IP6 Configure Get) scheduled... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 4 of 5 (IP6 Configure Get) started... Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation (00:26:69:63:4E:0A) Stage 4 of 5 (IP6 Configure Get) complete. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.1.1 Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Copyright 2004-2010 Internet Systems Consortium. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: All rights reserved. Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/ Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Listening on LPF/bnep0/00:15:83:07:cd:17 Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Sending on LPF/bnep0/00:15:83:07:cd:17 Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: Sending on Socket/fallback Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: DHCPDISCOVER on bnep0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 Apr 26 22:22:59 Sonozaki NetworkManager: (bnep0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit Apr 26 22:23:01 Sonozaki avahi-daemon[887]: Registering new address record for fe80::215:83ff:fe07:cd17 on bnep0.*. Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: DHCPDISCOVER on bnep0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19 Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.66.1 Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: DHCPREQUEST on bnep0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: DHCPACK from 192.168.66.1 Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki dhclient[3344]: bound to 192.168.66.2 -- renewal in 1375 seconds. Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki NetworkManager: (bnep0): DHCPv4 state changed preinit -> bound Apr 26 22:23:07 Sonozaki NetworkManager: Activation
Re: Fedora 12-KVM-Windows 7
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:25:36 -0400 Jim wrote: > Installing Windows 7 in KVM and Fedora 12 , would win 7 be slower in virt. > > Good or Bad Ideal ? Don't know about Windows 7, but my XP virtual machine runs faster on my fedora box as a KVM than my real windows XP box runs (of course the real Windows XP box is on slower hardware :-). The only thing that seems slower is disk I/O, and that is probably because I mostly use a network filesystem for everything. I suspect the redhat virtio drivers and an LVM backed disk image would even make disk I/O almost as good as real hardware. The one thing you won't get is fancy graphics (at least not until spice shows up in the release or you manually install some of the experimental spice support). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:42:40 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Is that what you mean? Yep. I had no network operating when I installed f13 beta till I disabled NM and enabled network again. Just errors with any attempt to access the network. I didn't pay much attention to why, I just assumed it was still busted. Everything works fine with network. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 12-KVM-Windows 7
Fedora 12/Kde Installing Windows 7 in KVM and Fedora 12 , would win 7 be slower in virt. Good or Bad Ideal ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
Thanks your suggestion worked smoothly On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Suvayu Ali > wrote: > On Monday 26 April 2010 02:18 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 17:09 -0400, Henry Wyatt wrote: > >> I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see > >> libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla > >> plugins directory. > > > > mv sourcefile destination > > > > The mv command can be used to move and/or rename files. Type "man mv" > > without the quote marks to see all of the options and ways that mv can > > be used. > > > > Another point, to move to the mozilla plugins directory you will need > root privileges. So first open a terminal and switch to root and then > move the file like this, > > $ su > Password: > # mv /path/to/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ > > I would however recommend you try the packaged rpm for 64 bit flash > posted on fedoraforum. Someone posted a link to the thread a few days back. > > GL > > -- > Suvayu > > Open source is the future. It sets us free. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 26 April 2010 02:18 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 17:09 -0400, Henry Wyatt wrote: >>> I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see >>> libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla >>> plugins directory. >> >> mv sourcefile destination >> >> The mv command can be used to move and/or rename files. Type "man mv" >> without the quote marks to see all of the options and ways that mv can >> be used. >> > > Another point, to move to the mozilla plugins directory you will need > root privileges. So first open a terminal and switch to root and then > move the file like this, > I generally prefer to install the plugins in my home directory. It survives updates better and you can update them via Firefox mechanisms. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Broadcast support for 'nc'
I can't help but notice with my FC12 system, that the 'nc' command doesn't support the '-b' (broadcast) option. Other Linux distributions have supported that option for *years*. Why doesn't Fedora? -- Marcus Leech Principal Investigator Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium http://www.sbrac.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
On 04/27/2010 12:09 AM, Henry Wyatt wrote: Downloaded and extracted flashplayer for F12 64 bit Firefox, I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla plugins directory. -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. mv libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
On Monday 26 April 2010 02:18 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 17:09 -0400, Henry Wyatt wrote: >> I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see >> libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla >> plugins directory. > > mv sourcefile destination > > The mv command can be used to move and/or rename files. Type "man mv" > without the quote marks to see all of the options and ways that mv can > be used. > Another point, to move to the mozilla plugins directory you will need root privileges. So first open a terminal and switch to root and then move the file like this, $ su Password: # mv /path/to/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ I would however recommend you try the packaged rpm for 64 bit flash posted on fedoraforum. Someone posted a link to the thread a few days back. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 17:09 -0400, Henry Wyatt wrote: > I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see > libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla > plugins directory. mv sourcefile destination The mv command can be used to move and/or rename files. Type "man mv" without the quote marks to see all of the options and ways that mv can be used. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adobe Flash Player X86_64
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is mine... On 04/26/2010 02:09 PM, Henry Wyatt wrote: Downloaded and extracted flashplayer for F12 64 bit Firefox, I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla plugins directory. -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Adobe Flash Player X86_64
Downloaded and extracted flashplayer for F12 64 bit Firefox, I go to terminal and cd directory to my downloads dir and see libflashplayer.so file, but I do not know how to move it to mozilla plugins directory. -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Make aspell work right??
On Monday 26 April 2010 01:00 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:50:13 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> On Monday 26 April 2010 09:25 AM, Beartooth wrote: > >>> rpm -qa aspell* >>> aspell-0.60.6-7.fc12.i686 >>> aspell-en-6.0-11.fc12.i686 >>> >>> So the second one must be a dictionary? Is there a better? >> >> Since you already have the dictionary installed, I would guess its a >> setup problem somewhere. I use aspell from emacs (flyspell-mode) and it >> works fine. In my home I have these 2 files, >> >> $ ls .aspell* >> .aspell.en.prepl .aspell.en.pws > > In /home/btth, that command finds "no such file." So I told the > search function to search the whole filesystem; it found nothing, either. > > After a lot of fiddling, I told it to search the whole > filesystem, including hidden and backup, for anything with a name > containing "spell"; it found hundreds and hundreds -- but the only two > executables, for aspell and hunspell, are both in /usr/bin. There are > also four shell scripts there, and one in /etc/mc > > All this is Geek to me. You could try putting those files in your home area and then try using aspell. So something like this should be work, $ echo "personal_repl-1.1 en 0" > ~/.aspell.en.prepl $ echo "personal_ws-1.1 en 62" > ~/.aspell.en.pws Then try using aspell from any of your editors (emacs, vim, nano...) or try using it directly like so, $ aspell check Hope this will help. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Monday 26 April 2010 11:40 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:15:39 -0400 > Matthew Saltzman wrote: > >> connects >> at boot > > I still have to disable it in f13 to get my static IP address > to work correctly at boot time. I get a static IP within my local network behind the router with NM without any fiddling. I am even connected to the network on boot (I m presuming being able to use yum in runlevel 3 is proof to that). Is that what you mean? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] Entire password not checked
Aaron Mills wrote: > Hi All, > > I have an FDS and 389 instance set up with a number of users, and password > policy requiring minimum password length, some numbers, and some other > characters. > > This all works well for mandating secure passwords. However, whenever users > authenticate via LDAP the server appears to check only the first 8 characters > of their passwords. For example if a user has a password of "foobar1234!" > they can still login with "foobar12" or "foobar12bazbaz" I've tested this > with unix client logins (via PAM) and directly via the ldapsearch command. > Both exhibit the same behavior. > > Goo diligence hasn't really turned up anything, though it could be I'm > missing the obvious. Has anyone run into this problem before? Is this > possibly an issue with they way i'm storing passwords? > How are you storing passwords? What platform? What version of 389-ds-base? > -Aaron > > -- > 389 users mailing list > 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users > -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
[389-users] Entire password not checked
Hi All, I have an FDS and 389 instance set up with a number of users, and password policy requiring minimum password length, some numbers, and some other characters. This all works well for mandating secure passwords. However, whenever users authenticate via LDAP the server appears to check only the first 8 characters of their passwords. For example if a user has a password of "foobar1234!" they can still login with "foobar12" or "foobar12bazbaz" I've tested this with unix client logins (via PAM) and directly via the ldapsearch command. Both exhibit the same behavior. Goo diligence hasn't really turned up anything, though it could be I'm missing the obvious. Has anyone run into this problem before? Is this possibly an issue with they way i'm storing passwords? -Aaron -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Startx crash after update
Great, thank, I'll try tomorrow. F Skype shinymetal-skype -- From: "Brian Millett" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:16 PM To: "Community support for Fedora users" Subject: Re: Startx crash after update > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Startx crash after update
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 21:42 +0200, Fil-ShinyMetal wrote: > Hi there, > I will describe shortly my situation. > 2 Z800 HP server, 6 GBytes of ram with 1 80 GB sata for the os and 2 > sata 1TB in software raid1. > The graphic board is an Nvidia Quadro FX380 > I have other servers ( FC10 ) that mirrors locally the update and > everything publicly available repositories. > > The installation went smoothly with FC12_64. > After the installation I arranged to boot in text mode, no graphic ( I > do this for all my servers, so nothing strange ). > I got the first troubles when I did the updates : doing a startx, both > the Z800s rebooted, and unbelievably the discs were no more > accessible : the only way to recover from that was to cycle the > power ! > Quick investigation, and I discovered that with the installation > kernel ( 2.31.5 ) X starts well. > Googling around, I discovered the solutions proposed in the > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common but none of them worked for > me. > I've not yet tried the Nvidia driver for time reasons, maybe tomorrow > I will do, but I suspect the problem is not there. > As a last bit, I did the installation and update with 32bit FC12, with > the same results. > > Any idea about this? > Regards > > Filippo > > Skype shinymetal-skype I had to add the following to the boot kernel line in grub: iommu=soft -- Brian Millett - [ Garibaldi (to Amis), "The Long Dark"] "You were about to accuse the Centauri Ambassador of being in league with the devil. Which might not be far from the truth." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Make aspell work right??
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:50:13 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 26 April 2010 09:25 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> rpm -qa aspell* >> aspell-0.60.6-7.fc12.i686 >> aspell-en-6.0-11.fc12.i686 >> >> So the second one must be a dictionary? Is there a better? > > Since you already have the dictionary installed, I would guess its a > setup problem somewhere. I use aspell from emacs (flyspell-mode) and it > works fine. In my home I have these 2 files, > > $ ls .aspell* > .aspell.en.prepl .aspell.en.pws In /home/btth, that command finds "no such file." So I told the search function to search the whole filesystem; it found nothing, either. After a lot of fiddling, I told it to search the whole filesystem, including hidden and backup, for anything with a name containing "spell"; it found hundreds and hundreds -- but the only two executables, for aspell and hunspell, are both in /usr/bin. There are also four shell scripts there, and one in /etc/mc All this is Geek to me. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Startx crash after update
Hi there, I will describe shortly my situation. 2 Z800 HP server, 6 GBytes of ram with 1 80 GB sata for the os and 2 sata 1TB in software raid1. The graphic board is an Nvidia Quadro FX380 I have other servers ( FC10 ) that mirrors locally the update and everything publicly available repositories. The installation went smoothly with FC12_64. After the installation I arranged to boot in text mode, no graphic ( I do this for all my servers, so nothing strange ). I got the first troubles when I did the updates : doing a startx, both the Z800s rebooted, and unbelievably the discs were no more accessible : the only way to recover from that was to cycle the power ! Quick investigation, and I discovered that with the installation kernel ( 2.31.5 ) X starts well. Googling around, I discovered the solutions proposed in the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common but none of them worked for me. I've not yet tried the Nvidia driver for time reasons, maybe tomorrow I will do, but I suspect the problem is not there. As a last bit, I did the installation and update with 32bit FC12, with the same results. Any idea about this? Regards Filippo Skype shinymetal-skype-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Acer Aspire AS7540-1408 a decent fedora (13) laptop?
> > i am once again in the market for a newer fedora laptop, and this > one seems like a decent bargain (open box discount): > > http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6051933&CatId=4965 > > mostly i'm paying a few extra bucks for the 1600x900 display, but > does anyone see any fatal flaws in this system from a fedora > perspective? > > minimally, i want: > > * 64-bit processor with H/W virt support > * at least 3GB RAM (4 would have been better but, eh ...) > * HDMI port > * 802.11 b/g/n > > so this *seems* to fit the bill -- does anyone see any show-stoppers? > thanks. One note...I'm currently using F12 on an Acer Aspire 5100...the only thing that doesn't work as I'd like is the audio subsystem...specifically, the microphone input. When I attempt to record anything, I can hear myself, but the recording software doesn't actually record anything. Hopefully, F13 on the hardware you note, above, has better support. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: site-update-subscr...@bubbanfriends.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
David Bartmess writes: > I'll second that with HP laptops. I have a HP Pavilion ZV5000 that works > flawlessly with Wifi and everything. I've probably got the the Compaq branded version -- V5000Z. You can't go too wrong with the HP or Compaq laptops. Lets face it, HP and Compaq's are dirt cheap, mostly straight reference designs. It means that you can easily get replacement parts scavanged from a large number of other HP/Compaq machines (which is rare for laptops). It also means that there are fewer curve balls the laptop designs throw at Linux. All the important things work well enough. The crunchy parts are the same as for other laptops. Wifi with the "odd" features is a bit lacking. The builtin Broadcomm adaptor is an a/b/g but the linux drivers only know how to run it on b/g. The frambuffer is a stock ATI laptop Radeon, but it really only works in 2D with some 3D done in software. Sleep-to-ram and sleep-to-disk work with some versions of the kernel, but not others. Again, this is fairly normal for most hardware. As soon as SSD drops in price a bit I'll update my old PATA-disk laptop with one that uses SATA and can take the Intel SSD's. I'll get whatever AMD 15" laptop is current then. Usually it is cheaper to get the configure-yourself low-end with the upgraded CPU and then put more dram and a better disk in yourself. -wolfggang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 04/26/2010 12:54 PM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user account. > > Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? Yes, use the method detailed below by Steve Berg Once you are logged in to the console (in text mode, using root), use the useradd tool to create a user for yourself. You should then be able to login in to the gui using it. BTW, the last install I did (F13 Beta, yesterday, from a live image) rebooted after installation, and the first thing it asked me was to create a user account before it put up the graphical login screen. > Nathan Woodruff > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to > a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. > Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the > installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login > restriction can be disabled if you desire. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 04/26/2010 01:12 PM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. What about Ctrl-Alt-F2? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
Trying to disregard top-posting, it's still funny how your post is way shorter than your (bi-lingual) signature. Way to go. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
Hi, normally i leave it off on my servers, even without the link you did. On the clients, is nice for the wireless. Fil Skype shinymetal-skype Questo messaggio di posta elettronica contiene informazioni di carattere confidenziale rivolte esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato. E' vietato l'uso, la diffusione, distribuzione o riproduzione da parte di ogni altra persona. Nel caso aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, siete pregati di segnalarlo immediatamente al mittente e distruggere quanto ricevuto (compresi i file allegati) senza farne copia. Confidentially notice. This e-mail transmission may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. Please do not read it if you are not the intended recipient(s). Any use, distribution, reproduction or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original trasmission and its attachments without reading or saving it for any matter. -- From: "Gergely Buday" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:24 PM To: Subject: NetworkManager, is it important? > Hi there, > > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? > > Cheers > > - Gergely > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:15:39 -0400 Matthew Saltzman wrote: > connects > at boot I still have to disable it in f13 to get my static IP address to work correctly at boot time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] disable SSL at startup
Thomas Cameron wrote: > Howdy - > > Posting this to the list just because Google searches didn't tell me. > Very possible I was asking the wrong question, but here's what I was > searching for. > > How do you disable SSL at startup for Fedora Directory Server (389)? > > In /etc/dirsrv/slapd-[hostname]/dse.ldif, change the line: > > nsslapd-security: on > > to: > > nsslapd-security: off > > Back story: I was messing about with SSL certificates and I did > something wrong. Not sure what yet, but since my cert was borked, > after I installed it, 389 wouldn't start. Since the LDAP server > wouldn't start, the admin server wouldn't allow me to log in. I was > kind of screwed. > > Once I set the LDAP server to start without SSL, I was able to log in > and now I can (hopefully) figure out what I did wrong with the > certificate. > > The error I was getting was: > > /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-e510/errors:[24/Apr/2010:18:12:30 -0500] - SSL > alert: CERT_VerifyCertificateNow: verify certificate failed for cert > e510 server-cert of family cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config (Netscape > Portable Runtime error -8179 - Peer's Certificate issuer is not > recognized.) > How did you generate the server cert 'e510 server-cert' ? Did you import the CA cert of the CA that issued this cert? > -- > 389 users mailing list > 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users > -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 09:33 -0500, Dale Dellutri wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Gergely Buday wrote: > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? > I have F12 running on my personal laptop (Dell D630) and my work desktop. I think that NM is appropriate and useful on my laptop but not my desktop. When I use my laptop at home, I connect to my home network via WiFi, and sometimes I used a wired connection. I've used both wired and wireless connections elsewhere. So far, NM has correctly connected in all these situations, using DHCP. You need NetworkManager if you connect to wireless networks that authenticate with WPA. The old-style network scripts don't handle that case. It can be handled using wpa_supplicant manually, but it is far less convenient. My work desktop, however, has a wired connection with a fixed IP address. In this case, NM is not useful. So I did (as root): service NetworkManager off chkconfig NetworkManager off Then I modified /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, and I created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 (for a special route we need at work), and then chkconfig network on service network start I think that I could have also use config tools in Gnome to do the same thing, but the above worked for me. The usefulness of NM depends on your network setup. If you're one of those that turned NM off in the early days of its development, when it only did user-based connections should be aware that it now handles system-wide connection options, works with mobile broadband, manages DSL connections, starts and stops your VPNs, connects at boot, allows editing connections, and in F13 will even have a CLI. It's pretty clear that the old network scripts are deprecated and NM is the future of Linux networking, at least for Fedora and Red Hat. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Epiphany slow to load some sites ?!?
Hi; Epiphany, which used to be my fastest browser, has slowed right down when loading some sites. About 50% of them. I filed a bug a couple of months ago. The report back was that "Can't fix. An Adobe Flash problem." Is this then the final answer for me? Can I no longer use epiphany? Is there a new Flash package I can download from Adobe Systems Incorporated? I didn't see one. Can anyone expand on what is happening to Epiphany. The Gnome mail list and forum are useless. -- Regards Bill Fedora 12, Gnome 2.28 Evo.2.28, Emacs 23.1.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: f12 gnome turn off bluetooth command
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Natxo Asenjo wrote: > hi, > > with F12 the bluetooth applet has a new option: turn (on|off), which > is a great thing to have. Considering that many laptop users have a > bluetooth device, is there a gconf option or something to have it > start turned off to save battery? We can alwasy turn it manually on if > we need it. > > I have been searching with the gconf-editor but couldn't find > anything. Any hints appreciated. to answer my own question, here is what I have done: in /etc/rc.local I have included this line: /sbin/rfkill block bluetooth so the bluetooth sender is not active. I can turn it on from the bluetooth applet if I need it as a normal user. -- natxo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On Monday 26 April 2010 18:12:54 Nathan Woodruff wrote: > > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. That should be Ctrl-Alt-F2. That said, by default after the Fedora installation is complete and the system is rebooted, it offers a welcome screen where you should setup at least one regular user account, time&date, etc. You should do that and log in as a regular user. If at any time during regular work the system needs root password, you will be asked to provide it, and you will never actually need to log into X as root. Logging as root is generally considered a Bad Idea, and should be avoided unless you really know what you are doing. The general rule of thumb: if you know what you are doing and still want to log into X as root, you are probably expert enough to find information on how to enable that and modify the system yourself. If you are not expert enough to do that, the wise advice is just don't even try to do it, you are likely to screw something up. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Installing Fedora 12
Thanks, That worked. I'm sure I can take it from here. Nathan Woodruff -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of suvayu ali Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:21 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 On 26 April 2010 10:12, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > At the login screen it displays "Other..." pressing ctl-f1 displays a blue > ... > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. > I believe all of those are the wrong shortcuts. Try Ctrl+Alt+(any Fn key except for F1 or F7). That should get you to a tty/X where X is the Fn key used. Now you can login as root and use "useradd -m" to add a regular user with a home directory. You can also try the option -D to set the user settings to defaults. > Nathan Woodruff > -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade??
On 04/26/2010 10:19 AM, Beartooth wrote: > Since it's late April, with F13 due next month, I presume that > preupgrade must working, or about to start working, no? But I've seen > precious few posts here about it -- and in view of the things ordinary > updates seem to've been breaking lately, I'm a little spooky. > > Any word on it? > I used it once to upgrade a system and it worked fine. However, to make it work I had to remove almost everything from /boot because the default size of 200Mb is too small to work with preupgrade. If your /boot is 200Mb I would suggest upgrading via dvd rather than preupgrade. Paolo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 26 April 2010 10:12, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > At the login screen it displays "Other..." pressing ctl-f1 displays a blue > ... > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. > I believe all of those are the wrong shortcuts. Try Ctrl+Alt+(any Fn key except for F1 or F7). That should get you to a tty/X where X is the Fn key used. Now you can login as root and use "useradd -m" to add a regular user with a home directory. You can also try the option -D to set the user settings to defaults. > Nathan Woodruff > -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
sorry, ctl-alt-f1 ??? On 04/26/2010 10:12 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > Ah... No > > At the login screen it displays "Other..." pressing ctl-f1 displays a blue > box underneath it saying "Choose another Account" and nothing else. The only > other key that does anything is the "Enter" key and that takes me back to > where I was entering root as a user id. > > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. > > I last installed Fedora 9 on this box, many years ago and I didn't seem to > have any problems until one of the hard drives went bad. > > Is there anything else I can try? > > Nathan Woodruff > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jack craig > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:00 PM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > > sure, just do the ctl-f1, login as root, use the user_add cli to create > your non-root user. > > On 04/26/2010 09:54 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > >> I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user >> > account. > >> Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? >> >> Nathan Woodruff >> >> -Original Message- >> From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM >> To: Community support for Fedora users >> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 >> >> >> >> >>> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now >>> three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the >>> newly >>> installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I >>> > installed, > >>> I >>> used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I >>> wasn't >>> 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default >>> password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Nathan Woodruff >>> >>> >> By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to >> a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. >> Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the >> installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login >> restriction can be disabled if you desire. >> >> >> > -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Preupgrade??
Since it's late April, with F13 due next month, I presume that preupgrade must working, or about to start working, no? But I've seen precious few posts here about it -- and in view of the things ordinary updates seem to've been breaking lately, I'm a little spooky. Any word on it? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 04/26/2010 09:00 AM, Edmon Begoli wrote: > I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, > so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives > (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more > convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more > details if needed) You might want to reconsider that. The requirement for internal SATA connectors includes a life rating of just 50 insertions. Wearing out the connector on the motherboard would be a Very Bad Thing (tm). My Lenovo laptop came with a warning about repeatedly swapping disks, and a bit of digging turned up that 50 insertion spec. (FYI, the rating for eSATA connectors is 5000 insertions.) -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 4/26/10, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > Ah... No > > At the login screen it displays "Other..." pressing ctl-f1 displays a blue > box underneath it saying "Choose another Account" and nothing else. The only > other key that does anything is the "Enter" key and that takes me back to > where I was entering root as a user id. > > Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. > > I last installed Fedora 9 on this box, many years ago and I didn't seem to > have any problems until one of the hard drives went bad. > > Is there anything else I can try? > > Nathan Woodruff > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jack craig > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:00 PM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > > sure, just do the ctl-f1, login as root, use the user_add cli to create > your non-root user. > > On 04/26/2010 09:54 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: >> I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user > account. >> >> Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? >> >> Nathan Woodruff >> >> -Original Message- >> From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM >> To: Community support for Fedora users >> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 >> >> >> >>> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now >>> three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the >>> newly >>> installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I > installed, >>> I >>> used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I >>> wasn't >>> 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default >>> password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Nathan Woodruff >>> >> By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to >> a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. >> Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the >> installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login >> restriction can be disabled if you desire. >> >> > > -- > Jack Craig > Software Engineer > 831.461.7100 x120 > www.extraview.com HI I use CTRL-ALT-FX where x is between 2 and 6 My GUI is on F1 YMMV Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 04/26/2010 10:02 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 26 April 2010 07:51, Dale Dellutri wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Edmon Begoli wrote: >> >>> I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. >>> >>> I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for >>> development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. >>> >>> So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, >>> so I want to >>> ask community of Fedora users: >>> >>> what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine >>> with the best Fedora experience. >>> >>> I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, >>> so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives >>> (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more >>> convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more >>> details if needed) >>> >> Your only stated requirements are price, the ability to do development, >> and the ability to swap disks. Given those requirements, I'd get a >> refurbished Dell laptop from Dell at: >>http://www.dfsdirectsales.com >> You can get a laptop with no operating system. Disk removal/replacement is >> fairly easy on the Dell D-series laptops, just a screw or two. You'll >> probably >> want to buy a second carrier. Or, I guess you could boot from USB dirves. >> >> I got my current Dell D630 that way, on which I've installed F12. The >> wireless, >> as well as everything lese, works well. >> >> This is just one suggestion. Just about any laptop would work. Just make >> sure that the NetworkManager can handle the wireless card and that disk >> removal is easy. >> >> > I have used a Thinkpad SL series with Fedora 12 with no problems. > NetworkManager plays wonderfully nice too. :) I think it cost about > CAD 800 but probably there was some kind of a savings deal. > > >> -- >> Dale Dellutri >> > There is one thing I would like to add to this thread. I have 5 laptops here on my desk all fried because of High end Nvidia cards. Airflow is one thing not really good with laptops and these new Nvidia cards get very hot. I have seen amd cpu cooked not because the cpu is overheated but because the video card in the laptops are heating up the cpu beyond it's tolerances and thus el cookedoe goes the cpu. What ever laptop you get make sure airflow comes from the back not bottom. If it is bottom then invest into a Laptop fan plate to place the laptop on. At least the unit will have a chance with airflow. I would not buy one for these reasons They are like bic lighters, disposable These are just my thoughts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Installing Fedora 12
Ah... No At the login screen it displays "Other..." pressing ctl-f1 displays a blue box underneath it saying "Choose another Account" and nothing else. The only other key that does anything is the "Enter" key and that takes me back to where I was entering root as a user id. Pressing Alt f2 does absolutely nothing. I last installed Fedora 9 on this box, many years ago and I didn't seem to have any problems until one of the hard drives went bad. Is there anything else I can try? Nathan Woodruff -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jack craig Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 sure, just do the ctl-f1, login as root, use the user_add cli to create your non-root user. On 04/26/2010 09:54 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user account. > > Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? > > Nathan Woodruff > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > > > >> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now >> three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the >> newly >> installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, >> I >> used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I >> wasn't >> 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default >> password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Nathan Woodruff >> > By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to > a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. > Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the > installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login > restriction can be disabled if you desire. > > -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 04/26/2010 08:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 26 April 2010 07:51, Dale Dellutri wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Edmon Begoli wrote: >> >>> I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. >>> >>> I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for >>> development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. >>> >>> So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, >>> so I want to >>> ask community of Fedora users: >>> >>> what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine >>> with the best Fedora experience. >>> >>> I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, >>> so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives >>> (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more >>> convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more >>> details if needed) >>> >> Your only stated requirements are price, the ability to do development, >> and the ability to swap disks. Given those requirements, I'd get a >> refurbished Dell laptop from Dell at: >>http://www.dfsdirectsales.com >> You can get a laptop with no operating system. Disk removal/replacement is >> fairly easy on the Dell D-series laptops, just a screw or two. You'll >> probably >> want to buy a second carrier. Or, I guess you could boot from USB dirves. >> >> I got my current Dell D630 that way, on which I've installed F12. The >> wireless, >> as well as everything lese, works well. >> >> This is just one suggestion. Just about any laptop would work. Just make >> sure that the NetworkManager can handle the wireless card and that disk >> removal is easy. >> >> > I have used a Thinkpad SL series with Fedora 12 with no problems. > NetworkManager plays wonderfully nice too. :) I think it cost about > CAD 800 but probably there was some kind of a savings deal. > > >> -- >> Dale Dellutri >> > Thinkpads are among my favs, but on that budget he'd rather get a new HP or Dell. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 26 April 2010 07:51, Dale Dellutri wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Edmon Begoli wrote: >> >> I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. >> >> I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for >> development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. >> >> So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, >> so I want to >> ask community of Fedora users: >> >> what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine >> with the best Fedora experience. >> >> I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, >> so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives >> (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more >> convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more >> details if needed) > > Your only stated requirements are price, the ability to do development, > and the ability to swap disks. Given those requirements, I'd get a > refurbished Dell laptop from Dell at: > http://www.dfsdirectsales.com > You can get a laptop with no operating system. Disk removal/replacement is > fairly easy on the Dell D-series laptops, just a screw or two. You'll > probably > want to buy a second carrier. Or, I guess you could boot from USB dirves. > > I got my current Dell D630 that way, on which I've installed F12. The > wireless, > as well as everything lese, works well. > > This is just one suggestion. Just about any laptop would work. Just make > sure that the NetworkManager can handle the wireless card and that disk > removal is easy. > I have used a Thinkpad SL series with Fedora 12 with no problems. NetworkManager plays wonderfully nice too. :) I think it cost about CAD 800 but probably there was some kind of a savings deal. > -- > Dale Dellutri -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
sure, just do the ctl-f1, login as root, use the user_add cli to create your non-root user. On 04/26/2010 09:54 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: > I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user account. > > Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? > > Nathan Woodruff > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > > > >> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now >> three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the >> newly >> installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, >> I >> used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I >> wasn't >> 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default >> password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Nathan Woodruff >> > By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to > a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. > Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the > installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login > restriction can be disabled if you desire. > > -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Installing Fedora 12
I seem to believe that it never gave me the option to create a user account. Can I do it now with out another 6 hour install? Nathan Woodruff -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Steve Berg Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:37 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Installing Fedora 12 > I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now > three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the > newly > installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, > I > used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I > wasn't > 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default > password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Nathan Woodruff By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login restriction can be disabled if you desire. -- * Stephen Berg * * sb...@mississippi.com * * Sinners can repent, * * But stupid is forever. * -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Make aspell work right??
On Monday 26 April 2010 09:25 AM, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:16:08 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > > >> Aren't you allowed to use rpm query? If so try, $ rpm -qa aspell* > > rpm -qa aspell* > aspell-0.60.6-7.fc12.i686 > aspell-en-6.0-11.fc12.i686 > > So the second one must be a dictionary? Is there a better? Since you already have the dictionary installed, I would guess its a setup problem somewhere. I use aspell from emacs (flyspell-mode) and it works fine. In my home I have these 2 files, $ ls .aspell* .aspell.en.prepl .aspell.en.pws The .pws file is my personal dictionary whereas the .prepl file looks like this, $ cat .aspell.en.prepl personal_repl-1.1 en 0 $ head -1 .aspell.en.pws personal_ws-1.1 en 62 You could try that, maybe thats what you are missing. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
> I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now > three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the > newly > installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, > I > used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I > wasn't > 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default > password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Nathan Woodruff By default these days X does not allow root login. If you switch over to a terminal console (e.g. Alt-F2) and try that it should work just fine. Did you try to create a user account and login with that during the installation? Once you get the install finish the root/GUI login restriction can be disabled if you desire. -- * Stephen Berg * * sb...@mississippi.com * * Sinners can repent, * * But stupid is forever. * -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Fedora 12
On 4/26/2010 10:29 AM, Nathan Woodruff wrote: I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the newly installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, I used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I wasn't 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. Okay, another 6 hours of installation, this time I write down the password that I typed in for root. Another reboot without the live CD to the clean install, and I get the login screen. I type "root" and the written down password. Same thing "Authentication Failed". That night I start another 6 hours of a clean install and this time I use the word "password" for the requested password. I know that I can not mess that up. The next day I come in to a clean install from the Live CD and I get the login screen. I type "root" and "password". "Authentication Failed" If I wanted an operating system that all it does is display "Authentication Failed", I'd be in business. I was hoping it would do more than that. What am I doing wrong? Nathan Woodruff You're not doing anything wrong. Fedora Gnome doesn't allow root access from the signon screen. You have to sign in using a user id other than root, and then su - to get to the root login. -- "Dingo" Dave Bartmess Broomfield, CO. USA http://edingo.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Installing Fedora 12
I've downloaded the Fedora 12 desktop edition and I've installed it now three times on a U2 server of ours. Every time after the reboot of the newly installed system, I get the login screen. The first time when I installed, I used a password that I always use as a default, at least I thought, I wasn't 100% sure. I typed in "root" with out the quotes and type in the default password that I always use. "Authentication Failed" and doesn't log on. Okay, another 6 hours of installation, this time I write down the password that I typed in for root. Another reboot without the live CD to the clean install, and I get the login screen. I type "root" and the written down password. Same thing "Authentication Failed". That night I start another 6 hours of a clean install and this time I use the word "password" for the requested password. I know that I can not mess that up. The next day I come in to a clean install from the Live CD and I get the login screen. I type "root" and "password". "Authentication Failed".. If I wanted an operating system that all it does is display "Authentication Failed", I'd be in business. I was hoping it would do more than that. What am I doing wrong? Nathan Woodruff -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Make aspell work right??
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:16:08 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > Aren't you allowed to use rpm query? If so try, $ rpm -qa aspell* rpm -qa aspell* aspell-0.60.6-7.fc12.i686 aspell-en-6.0-11.fc12.i686 So the second one must be a dictionary? Is there a better? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Upcoming Fedora IRC Classroom Sessions - 2010-04-26
The Fedora IRC Classroom has been quiet of late, but thats about to change! We have a number of great classes coming up: Date and Time (UTC) Class topic and Instructor 27 April, 2010 at 19:00 UTC How to make life awesome for journalists - Joe Brockmeier 29 April, 2010 at 01:00 UTC How to test Fedora Updates - Kevin Fenzi 30 April, 2010 at 12:30 UTC (6:00 PM IST)A Short Tutorial On i18n Through gettext - Naveen Kumar 03 May, 2010 at 13:30 UTC (7:00 PM IST) Introductory workshop on GNU Autotools - Siddhesh Poyarekar 10 May, 2010 at 01:00 UTCLearn about exciting Fedora 13 Features - Kevin Fenzi See the classroom page ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom ) for more details and information on how to attend classes on IRC, or sign up to teach one! Hope to see everyone there. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EVGA GTX 295 not working
On 04/26/2010 07:27 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 26 April 2010 06:46, badmagic wrote: > >> Hi all (figured out the problem), >> >> I've had trouble installing Fedora for the last few releases. I don't >> have it installed at the moment so I can't offer much help BUT as I'm >> certain my prob relates to my EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Edition graphics card >> and these are quite common cards, I'm sure the fix is quite widely known. >> >> Everything installs/boots okay until I get to the bit where I need to >> log in. I get the GDM graphical login screen but the mouse and keyboard >> seem to stop working. If I change to terminal view (Ctrl Alt F2 for >> memory) I can still type DMESG shows problems with the graphics card - >> can't remember specifics. >> >> I tried changing the xorg.conf to settings I know worked under other >> distros/BSD/Solaris (using xorg) to no avail. >> >> Is this a known problem? Is there a fix? Is there some GRUB switch I can >> throw in there that'll work - I tried some to no avail. >> >> > I am not sure but your card is probably not supported by the open > source nouveau drivers. Have you tried using the proprietary drivers > packaged by rpmfusion [http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia]? If not you > could give that a shot. I would go about it like this, > > 1. Boot to runlevel 3 > 2. use yum to install rpmfusion free and non-free repo > 3. now use yum to install the nvidia proprietary drivers > 4. reboot > > >> My specs are as follows: >> >> ASUS P5Q Deluxe motherboard >> 4GB Kingston (compatible with mobo) RAM >> EVGA GTX 295 co-op edition graphics card >> Corsair HX 1000W (more than enough) >> >> > Nice rig ;) > > >> That's about all >> >> > GL > > >> Regards, >> Steve Laurie >> > You must also blacklist nouveau in the grub config There is a complete write up in the above RPMFUSION HOWTO -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
kde and konsole odds
Hi all, I know this ml it's not kde related, by since I use it on Fedora... ;) I use a lot ssh with kconsole to login into my servers in office. Usually I use something like: konsole --title="JBlade" --profile Remote -e ssh r...@jblade.network.com and it works by command line (I see the string "JBlade" on the title of the new window) But if I bind the command to an entry inside the kickoff menu I lose the property title; instead I see something like ":". Can someone help me, pls? Thanks Alessandro -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Edmon Begoli wrote: > I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. > > I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for > development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. > > So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, > so I want to > ask community of Fedora users: > > what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine > with the best Fedora experience. > > I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, > so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives > (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more > convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more > details if needed) > Your only stated requirements are price, the ability to do development, and the ability to swap disks. Given those requirements, I'd get a refurbished Dell laptop from Dell at: http://www.dfsdirectsales.com You can get a laptop with no operating system. Disk removal/replacement is fairly easy on the Dell D-series laptops, just a screw or two. You'll probably want to buy a second carrier. Or, I guess you could boot from USB dirves. I got my current Dell D630 that way, on which I've installed F12. The wireless, as well as everything lese, works well. This is just one suggestion. Just about any laptop would work. Just make sure that the NetworkManager can handle the wireless card and that disk removal is easy. -- Dale Dellutri -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 4/26/2010 8:08 AM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > On 04/26/2010 05:00 PM, Edmon Begoli wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. >> >> I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for >> development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. >> >> So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, >> so I want to >> ask community of Fedora users: >> >> what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine >> with the best Fedora experience. >> >> I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, >> so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives >> (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more >> convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more >> details if needed) >> >> Thank you, >> Edmon >> >> > I've had good experiences with HP laptops, they have products for any > pocket and (at least for me) work satisfactorily. > I'll second that with HP laptops. I have a HP Pavilion ZV5000 that works flawlessly with Wifi and everything. -- "Dingo" Dave Bartmess Broomfield, CO. USA http://edingo.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Gergely Buday wrote: > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? > I have F12 running on my personal laptop (Dell D630) and my work desktop. I think that NM is appropriate and useful on my laptop but not my desktop. When I use my laptop at home, I connect to my home network via WiFi, and sometimes I used a wired connection. I've used both wired and wireless connections elsewhere. So far, NM has correctly connected in all these situations, using DHCP. My work desktop, however, has a wired connection with a fixed IP address. In this case, NM is not useful. So I did (as root): service NetworkManager off chkconfig NetworkManager off Then I modified /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, and I created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 (for a special route we need at work), and then chkconfig network on service network start I think that I could have also use config tools in Gnome to do the same thing, but the above worked for me. The usefulness of NM depends on your network setup. -- Dale Dellutri -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EVGA GTX 295 not working
On 26 April 2010 06:46, badmagic wrote: > Hi all (figured out the problem), > > I've had trouble installing Fedora for the last few releases. I don't > have it installed at the moment so I can't offer much help BUT as I'm > certain my prob relates to my EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Edition graphics card > and these are quite common cards, I'm sure the fix is quite widely known. > > Everything installs/boots okay until I get to the bit where I need to > log in. I get the GDM graphical login screen but the mouse and keyboard > seem to stop working. If I change to terminal view (Ctrl Alt F2 for > memory) I can still type DMESG shows problems with the graphics card - > can't remember specifics. > > I tried changing the xorg.conf to settings I know worked under other > distros/BSD/Solaris (using xorg) to no avail. > > Is this a known problem? Is there a fix? Is there some GRUB switch I can > throw in there that'll work - I tried some to no avail. > I am not sure but your card is probably not supported by the open source nouveau drivers. Have you tried using the proprietary drivers packaged by rpmfusion [http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia]? If not you could give that a shot. I would go about it like this, 1. Boot to runlevel 3 2. use yum to install rpmfusion free and non-free repo 3. now use yum to install the nvidia proprietary drivers 4. reboot > My specs are as follows: > > ASUS P5Q Deluxe motherboard > 4GB Kingston (compatible with mobo) RAM > EVGA GTX 295 co-op edition graphics card > Corsair HX 1000W (more than enough) > Nice rig ;) > That's about all > GL > Regards, > Steve Laurie -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
On 04/26/2010 05:00 PM, Edmon Begoli wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. > > I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for > development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. > > So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, > so I want to > ask community of Fedora users: > > what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine > with the best Fedora experience. > > I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, > so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives > (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more > convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more > details if needed) > > Thank you, > Edmon > I've had good experiences with HP laptops, they have products for any pocket and (at least for me) work satisfactorily. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Best Laptop Experience with Fedora
Hi, I am thinking of buying a Laptop to run Fedora 12/13/ ... on it. I am member of the Fedora project and I want to have a laptop only for development and testing of the code, packages and new releases on it. So far I had mixed luck with wireless cards/drivers and video cards, so I want to ask community of Fedora users: what Laptop in below $600 or $700 would they recommend as the machine with the best Fedora experience. I am also looking for the easy hard drive swap in and out solution, so that I can swap complete distros by swapping hard drives (I have dual boots and USB but I find hard drive swapping more convenient for what I am doing. I can explain my motivation in more details if needed) Thank you, Edmon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Postings
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 23:41 +1000, Badmagic wrote: > Am I supposed to receive my own postings because I posted yesterday > and didn't receive a copy? > > I don't know if it was successful and I just haven't received a reply > yet or if it didn't actually get posted. Can anyone tell me if they're > receiving this email? > > It was a question about my EVGA GTX 295 graphics card not working with > Fedora 11 and 12. > > Regards, > Steve Laurie > > > -- > Sent from my iPhone Usually you can get an post acknowledgement. I think it might depend on your mailing list settings. Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = We are governed not by armies and police but by ideas. -- Mona Caird, 1892 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Postings
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:41:03 +1000 Badmagic wrote: > Am I supposed to receive my own postings because I posted yesterday > and didn't receive a copy? The easiest way to tell is to visit http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/ and see if your posting made it into the archives. Getting your own posting back may depend on your mail system. I know gmail "helpfully" doesn't return my mail (so I signed up for two gmail addresses and use one just to post and a different one just to read :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
EVGA GTX 295 not working
Hi all (figured out the problem), I've had trouble installing Fedora for the last few releases. I don't have it installed at the moment so I can't offer much help BUT as I'm certain my prob relates to my EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Edition graphics card and these are quite common cards, I'm sure the fix is quite widely known. Everything installs/boots okay until I get to the bit where I need to log in. I get the GDM graphical login screen but the mouse and keyboard seem to stop working. If I change to terminal view (Ctrl Alt F2 for memory) I can still type DMESG shows problems with the graphics card - can't remember specifics. I tried changing the xorg.conf to settings I know worked under other distros/BSD/Solaris (using xorg) to no avail. Is this a known problem? Is there a fix? Is there some GRUB switch I can throw in there that'll work - I tried some to no avail. My specs are as follows: ASUS P5Q Deluxe motherboard 4GB Kingston (compatible with mobo) RAM EVGA GTX 295 co-op edition graphics card Corsair HX 1000W (more than enough) That's about all Regards, Steve Laurie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Postings
Am I supposed to receive my own postings because I posted yesterday and didn't receive a copy? I don't know if it was successful and I just haven't received a reply yet or if it didn't actually get posted. Can anyone tell me if they're receiving this email? It was a question about my EVGA GTX 295 graphics card not working with Fedora 11 and 12. Regards, Steve Laurie -- Sent from my iPhone -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Gergely Buday wrote: > Hi there, > > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? That may work but you kind of did things the hard way. A more appropriate method would have been (as root): service NetworkManager stop chkconfig NetworkManager off chkconfig network on service network start Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NetworkManager, is it important?
On 04/26/2010 04:24 PM, Gergely Buday wrote: > Hi there, > > yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could > not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed > NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to > /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With > NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting > network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my > users cannot manage. > > What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances > do I need it _really_ ? > > Cheers > > - Gergely > This subject started lots of heated discussions; I, for one, agree with the old *nix way of getting a working connection, but others like NM. So, your mileage may vary. As for the Firefox thing, a Google search will show you an easy way of getting it to work without NetworkManager; other than that no, I don't really think you'll be missing anything as the only practical use of NM for me is when having a laptop. Just my 2 cents. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
NetworkManager, is it important?
Hi there, yesterday I configured my fedora 12 box. With NetworkManager I could not make it to have network after boot. At last I removed NetworkManager and createad an S07network link in /etc/rc5.d to /etc/init.d/network. It worked - good old Unix wisdom. With NetworkManager there was even the problem that after manually starting network Firefox switched to offline mode - an annoying problem that my users cannot manage. What do I miss if I do not have NetworkManager? In what circumstances do I need it _really_ ? Cheers - Gergely -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: recent network breakage on f12?
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 05:23:04PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > I'm seeing several of my laptops fail to get a dhcp lease after the > April-23 yum update for f12. The server sees the dhcp request and > issues the correct IP address, but the client never seems to act upon > it. Both eth0 and wlan0 never have IPv4 addresses assigned. Strangely > IPv6 addresses do get assigned correctly (bith link-local and global) so > it isn't a case of the ethernet or wlan being down. Those requests do > go out and the reply gets acted upon. > > Both NetowrkManager and dhclient were updated within the last two days. > I wonder if something is broken there. Are other folks seeing the same > breakage? I've got the reverse problem - NM is trying to dhcp for my statically configured adderesses. Again. However setting NM_CONTROLLED=no seems to be working. Oddly, it did manage to get my v6 connection working. -- Dave - Nobody believed that I could build a space station here. So I built it anyway. It sank into the vortex. So I built another one. It sank into the vortex. The third station burned down, fell over then sank into the vortex. The fourth station just vanished. And the fifth station, THAT stayed! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SyncMaster XL2370
2010/4/26 > Hi, > > I've Fedora 11 installed and a new SyncMaster XL2370. Unfortunately the > maximum screen resolution I can choose so far is 1280 x 720 instead of > 1920x1080 :-( > Any ideas how I could change this? > > Regards > > >uname -all > Linux mws14 2.6.30.10-105.2.4.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jan 19 22:46:59 UTC > 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > -- > > Driver used ? My be the VESA generic driver ? Graphic Card ? Cable used to connect the monitor, DVI or D-SUB/VGA ? -- Alessandro Brezzi -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
SyncMaster XL2370
Hi, I've Fedora 11 installed and a new SyncMaster XL2370. Unfortunately the maximum screen resolution I can choose so far is 1280 x 720 instead of 1920x1080 :-( Any ideas how I could change this? Regards >uname -all Linux mws14 2.6.30.10-105.2.4.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jan 19 22:46:59 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: USB power-off
Hi there Check the USB connector for bad or bend connectors. Could be a short circiut in the system power. rw - Original Message - From: "Antonio M" To: "Community support for Fedora users" Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:39 PM Subject: USB power-off >I am using Fedora 12 (and 13) installed on an external USB hard disk. > Sometimes the disk powers off and Fedora stalls until power is restored... > Is it a bug in the kernel??? > > -- > Antonio Montagnani > Skype : amontag52 > SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
