Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 17:19 -0700, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote:

> # kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12 in single user mode
> $ ls -lZ /dev
> crw---. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 agpgart
> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 block
> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 bsg
>
> 
> # kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12 in single user mode
> $ ls -lZ /dev
> crw-rw. root audio   system_u:object_r:sound_device_t:s0 adsp
> crw---. root video   system_u:object_r:agp_device_t:s0 agpgart
> crw-rw. root audio   system_u:object_r:sound_device_t:s0 audio
> drwxr-xr-x. root rootsystem_u:object_r:device_t:s0block

While not having the answer to your query, I might pose the obvious
questions:

Are you booting the other kernel on the same installation?

It's just a kernel version change in your grub.conf file between the two
of them?

You're not booting to a second installation, where you copied all the
files across, and copied /dev as files?

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Re: Question about this user list

2010-05-21 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 14:18 -0500, David A. Paredes Rios wrote:
> fedora 13 release is in 4 days so the questions are going to be valid
> here :D

Quite probably, and certainly in a few days time.  ;-)

> im must asking because i wrote aquestion here but nothings answer
> me :(..

I saw a question from you a few days back, but questions about Fedora 13
RC3 were, and probably still are, more likely to get an answer on the
test list.  A lot of people on this list won't be using the pre-release
candidates, and faults need fixing before something leaves the testing
phase.  I don't use it, so I can't answer that query.

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ralink rt3070 802.x driver, ifconfig, arp

2010-05-21 Thread aw...@centurytel.net

I am seeing some odd behavior on my new wireless interface.

The ra0 wireless network interface seems to be forwarding ARPs from the
wireless devices (which I can see and capture on RA0), but the kernel
apparently does not seem to be recognizing them as arptables does not
increment the packet count.

Also, two device interfaces, eth0 and ra0 calculate two different
broadcast addresses even when given the exact same netmask and ip
address? (as reported by ifconfig). Are these computed by the kernel or
the driver?

Anyone seen something similar in the past?

Thank You

Fred Farleigh




Fedora 12 x86_64, up to date.

RALink Technologies rt3070 USB wireless driver;

rt3070-2.1.1.0-3.fc12.1 (updated May18, 2010 from RPMFusion)
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Re: Updating

2010-05-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik

terry writes:

do I need pinyin engine and open phrasedb for chinese since I use 
English. and how do i keep the updater from offering it.


Remove the older versions of these packages which you already have 
installed.


You are prompted to update to newer versions of any packages you have 
installed. Remove the existing packages, and you won't be harassed to update 
them.




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Updating

2010-05-21 Thread terry
do I need pinyin engine and open phrasedb for chinese since I use 
English. and how do i keep the updater from offering it.
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Re: how to print via a usb to parallel cable

2010-05-21 Thread g
please excuse delay in replying.

Simon Tierney wrote:


> not all printers give feedback to describe what they are.
> It worked OK when connected to a regular parallel port on another Fedora 
> system -perhaps I should have looked for a specific linux driver on the 
> Samsung site, I'll try that now

if that did not work, see below.

> I am using the system-config-printer GUI -is there another way I could try?

check this site for drivers for your printer;

  http://www.driverguide.com/

find exact via;

  http://www.google.com/search?q=SCX+4216F+site%3Adriverguide.com

for other sites;

  http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=SCX+4216F

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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Karl-Michael Schneider
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:
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# kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12 in single user mode
$ ls -lZ /dev
crw---. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 agpgart
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 block
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 bsg
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 bus
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 char
crw---. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 console
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 cpu
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 cpu_dma_latency
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 disk
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 dm-0
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 dm-1
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 dri
crw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 fb
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 fb0
crw-rw-rw-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 full
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 fw0
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 hpet
crw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 hvc0
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 input
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 kmsg
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop0
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop1
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop2
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop3
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop4
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop5
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop6
brw-rw. root disk system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 loop7
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 mapper
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 mcelog
crw-r-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 mem
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 network_latency
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 network_throughput
crw-rw-rw-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 null
crw-r-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 nvram
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 oldmem
crw-r-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 port
crw-rw-rw-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 ptmx
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:devpts_t:s0pts
crw-rw-rw-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 random
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 raw
lrwxrwxrwx. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 root ->
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
lrwxrwxrwx. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 rtc -> rtc0
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 rtc0
lrwxrwxrwx. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 scd0 -> sr0
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sda
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sda1
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sda2
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sda3
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sg0
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sg1
drwxrwxrwt. root root system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t:s0 shm
crw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 snapshot
brw-rw. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 sr0
crw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 systty
crw-rw-rw-. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty0
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty1
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty10
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty11
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty12
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty13
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty14
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty15
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty16
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty17
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty18
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty19
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty2
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty20
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty21
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty22
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tty23
crw--w. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled

Select on ipcv5 messages queues

2010-05-21 Thread Ralph Blach
Can select be used on system 5 ipv v5 me3ssage queues on linux.
This is implemented on AIX and would be good implement Linux.

the mq_ system can use select although that is not the standard.( linux only)


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Re: rdiff-backup error, F12

2010-05-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Steven Stern wrote:
> When starting rdiff-backup:
>
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/SetConnections.py:148:
> DeprecationWarning: os.popen2 is deprecated.  Use the subprocess module.
>   stdin, stdout = os.popen2(remote_cmd)

This was reported as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/528940 and is fixed
in rawhide.  It wasn't deemed important enough to warrant pushing an
update to stable releases, as it is only cosmetic.

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rdiff-backup error, F12

2010-05-21 Thread Steven Stern
When starting rdiff-backup:

/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/SetConnections.py:148:
DeprecationWarning: os.popen2 is deprecated.  Use the subprocess module.
  stdin, stdout = os.popen2(remote_cmd)


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Re: Rendering chart from bootchart

2010-05-21 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 21 May 2010 10:47 AM, Mike Park wrote:
>> And the java application supplied with bootchart generates
>> the following error.
>>
>>> $ java -jar /usr/share/java/bootchart.jar
>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
>>> org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>> org.apache.commons.cli.ParseException
>>> � � � �at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
>>> � � � �at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>> � � � �at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
>>> � � � �at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:319)
>>> � � � �at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
>>> � � � �at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:264)
>>> � � � �at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:332)
>>> Could not find the main class: org.bootchart.Main. Program will exit.
>>
>> What seems to be wrong?
>
> Yeah, actually, you want to just run the provided /usr/bin/bootchart
> script since that sets up the config properly:
>
> [emp...@bart:~]$ bootchart
> Parsing /var/log/bootchart.tgz
> Wrote image: ./bootchart.png
>
> ...trying to launch it from just the .jar itself results in that error
> you mentioned. I haven't explored any other way to generate my
> bootchart, but running the script definitely works for me.
>

Thanks a lot Mike! This works like a charm now. :)

>
> --Mike

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Re: GRUB Hard Disk Error

2010-05-21 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Jozsi Vadkan wrote:

> I want to install a Debian on them. RAID1.
[...]
> How can I install grub to these two pendrives, so that if one of the
> pendrives die, it would still be a bootable system?

You have to install grub on each one of them separately.

Insert the pen drives in one order and install grub, then remove them
and install them in different order and install again.

Each one of them should think to be the first hard disk as
regards to booting.

It looks like you have both your pen drives thinking they are the
second disk (maybe because you have a real hard disk which is
using the first position).

Sorry for not giving your specific commands to try.

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Re: SELinux error booting backup f12

2010-05-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 05/21/2010 02:56 PM, jackson byers wrote:
> [by...@f12 ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.32.11-99.fc12.i686.PAE
> 
> login SElinux error trying to boot my backup copy of f12.
> Main f12 on external usb at /media/rootusb7, ext4.
> Backup f12copy on external usb at /media/rootusb8, ext3.
> Both use same /boot on internal hdisk, sdb8.
> 
> I think i got the changes correct,
> UUID change in fstab, and in grub.conf new stanza.
> system booted ok, X came up,
> but login as user gives error msg something close to:
> 
> " could not connect to session bus: An SELinux policy
> prevents ..sender from sending this message to
> this recipient (rejected message had sender "(unset)"
> interface "org...desktop.DBus"...member..error
> name...)"
> 
> I didn't write it down legibly enough to repeat all of it here.
> I had to hit the power button and reboot into my main f12.
> 
> I know zilch about SELinux, took the defaults on install.
> The man page talks about
>  label...relabel... restorcon,   none of which I understand
> 
> The gui shows
> enforcing
> enforcing
> targeted
> 
> I suppose I could try to disable selinux on this backup copy.
> does "selinux=0" on the kernel line suffice?
> Frowned on, I suppose,
> but for something mostly not to be used, maybe ok?
> 
> pointers? advice?
> 
> Jack
You can boot with selinux=0 or enforcing=0.  enforcing=0 means that
SELinux will block nothing, but maintain the labeling.
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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Re: Question about this user list

2010-05-21 Thread David A. Paredes Rios
Thanks for the answer, and well fedora 13 release is in 4 days so the
questions are going to be valid  here :D, im must asking because i wrote
aquestion here but nothings answer me :(..

Well thanks again.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 13:45:37 -0500,
>  "David A. Paredes Rios"  wrote:
> > Hello guys,
> > Please anyone can tell me if this list is just for users of FEDORA12 or
> the
> > user that already have FEDORA13 can post questions here too?
>
> Well technically F13 hasn't been released yet and questions specific to
> it should be on the test list. But the line is kind of fuzzy and it might
> make sense to ask something here instead depending on the question.
>



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Re: Question about this user list

2010-05-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 13:45:37 -0500,
  "David A. Paredes Rios"  wrote:
> Hello guys,
> Please anyone can tell me if this list is just for users of FEDORA12 or the
> user that already have FEDORA13 can post questions here too?

Well technically F13 hasn't been released yet and questions specific to
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make sense to ask something here instead depending on the question.
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SELinux error booting backup f12

2010-05-21 Thread jackson byers
[by...@f12 ~]$ uname -r
2.6.32.11-99.fc12.i686.PAE

login SElinux error trying to boot my backup copy of f12.
Main f12 on external usb at /media/rootusb7, ext4.
Backup f12copy on external usb at /media/rootusb8, ext3.
Both use same /boot on internal hdisk, sdb8.

I think i got the changes correct,
UUID change in fstab, and in grub.conf new stanza.
system booted ok, X came up,
but login as user gives error msg something close to:

" could not connect to session bus: An SELinux policy
prevents ..sender from sending this message to
this recipient (rejected message had sender "(unset)"
interface "org...desktop.DBus"...member..error
name...)"

I didn't write it down legibly enough to repeat all of it here.
I had to hit the power button and reboot into my main f12.

I know zilch about SELinux, took the defaults on install.
The man page talks about
 label...relabel... restorcon,   none of which I understand

The gui shows
enforcing
enforcing
targeted

I suppose I could try to disable selinux on this backup copy.
does "selinux=0" on the kernel line suffice?
Frowned on, I suppose,
but for something mostly not to be used, maybe ok?

pointers? advice?

Jack
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Question about this user list

2010-05-21 Thread David A. Paredes Rios
Hello guys,
Please anyone can tell me if this list is just for users of FEDORA12 or the
user that already have FEDORA13 can post questions here too?

Thanks guys.

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Thunderbird Account Settings problem

2010-05-21 Thread Jim
Fc12

I'm having problem of setting up email account.

If I use the Thunderbird Wizard it wants me to type in  Email Address 
and Password,

Then goes out somewhere (I'm Assuming to Medicom to get settings) and 
comes back and gives me a default of IMAP server instead of a POP3 
server and I can't change it.

I called Mediacom and they assure me it's not their problem.
Does anyone have any Ideals ?
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Re: Fedora-12 boot fails at "Starting udev:"

2010-05-21 Thread Mike Park
> PS: Mike, it would be good if you could share how you got the chart
> rendering to work. Maybe the OP can try too?

Sure, but I'll answer it in your original post, so we can keep this
thread about the booting problem, possibly due to udev.
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Re: Rendering chart from bootchart

2010-05-21 Thread Mike Park
> And the java application supplied with bootchart generates
> the following error.
>
>> $ java -jar /usr/share/java/bootchart.jar
>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
>> org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>> org.apache.commons.cli.ParseException
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
>>        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>        at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:319)
>>        at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:264)
>>        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:332)
>> Could not find the main class: org.bootchart.Main. Program will exit.
>
> What seems to be wrong?

Yeah, actually, you want to just run the provided /usr/bin/bootchart
script since that sets up the config properly:

[emp...@bart:~]$ bootchart
Parsing /var/log/bootchart.tgz
Wrote image: ./bootchart.png

...trying to launch it from just the .jar itself results in that error
you mentioned. I haven't explored any other way to generate my
bootchart, but running the script definitely works for me.


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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Karl-Michael Schneider
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 05/21/2010 03:03 AM, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote:
>> I did some more debugging: booted both kernels in single user mode,
>> then listed the security contexts in /dev:
>>
>> kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12:
>> $ ls -Zd /dev
>> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:device_t:s0    /dev
>> files in /dev are labeled according to
>> /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts
>>
>> kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12:
>> $ ls -Zd /dev
>> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0    /dev
>> all files /dev are unlabeled_t
>>
>> But
>> $ fixfiles check /dev
>> prints nothing.
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Karl-Michael Schneider
>>  wrote:
>>> I cannot boot any 2.6.32.* kernel, right after udev is started I see
>>> console messages like
>>>
>>> ln: creating symbolic link "/dev/fd": Permission denied
>>>
>>> and then booting is very slow and mounting the local file systems
>>> fails. I believe it is a problem with SELinux because when I add
>>> enforcing=0 to the kernel parameters in grub, it boots with no
>>> problems, although I see many console messages like
>>>
>>> udev-work[678]: setfilecon /dev/fd failed: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> I also have a 2.6.31.12-174.2.22 kernel installed which I can boot and
>>> which doesn't have this problem. But every newer kernel that I
>>> installed does not boot when SELinux is enforcing.
>>>
>>> I relabeled the filesystem, but it didn't help.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what I can try next?
>>>
> What file system is /dev?
>
> What does
> # restorecon -R -v /dev
> do?
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkv2bsMACgkQrlYvE4MpobMYeACdF7Oxmc0rxiGoYsFVT1A8J3ub
> VXkAnjChY769Hqt5JJEFksRGvvwQcETd
> =OPJ1
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>

/dev is ext3 on an LVM. The entry from /etc/fstab is

/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /   ext3defaults1 1

restorecon -R -v /dev does nothing (no output, file contexts are not
changed). That is despite the fact all the rules for /dev exist in
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts.
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voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
hi list

I have tried empathy with F10 sucessufully.

However, in F12 I could not communicate with voice with my google contacts.
There is a short ring and then it stops.

do you have any experience with this?

regards
Adel

ps: the version is Empathy 2.28.2

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GRUB Hard Disk Error

2010-05-21 Thread Jozsi Vadkan
I've got two pendrives.

I want to install a Debian on them. RAID1.

Ok...

...

After I installed it in RAID1, it works perfectly, ok! :)

When I pull out one of the pendrive [good pendrive], it still boots up,
hurrah :)

But: ...

When I pull out the other pendrive [i plug in the first one i tried] it
say's:

GRUB hard disk error

What can I do?

I already tried:
grub-install /dev/sdc <-that's the pendrive name [bios -> hard drive
emulation=hard drive, not auto]

or:
# grub
find /boot/grub/stage1
hd0,0
hd1,0

root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)

etc.

What's the solution? Please help me:\

I can't just dd the first 512 Byte of the "good pendrive", because the
uuid is stored there. [needed for the sraid..]

It gets to the grub, so it's not a ""boot-order problem""

How can I install grub to these two pendrives, so that if one of the
pendrives die, it would still be a bootable system?

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Alan Cox  wrote:

> On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
> Tim 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising
> wrote:
> > > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I
> needed a a 2000 BIOS
> > > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with
> 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> > > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10
> Gigs
> > 
> > To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the
> RAM, and drive size
> > are probably going to be a big problem, too.
> > 
> > I've got servers with similar specs, and they run
> fine.  But a for a
> > workstation generating a video display, low specced
> computers get a bit
> > painfully slow.
> 
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are
> several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some
> of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
> 
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Or LXDE (http://www.lxde.org/).

B
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 21/05/10 08:59, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
>
> yum install claws-mail
>
> Mogens
>
and Carroll Grigsby wrote:

Bob: Try yum install claws-mail. -- cmg
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Ok, that got it right away, I was asking for the wrong thing.

Getting smtp configured took a little longer, I have a Wildblue
address but they use the gmail servers with SSL. No trouble setting
up T-bird many times but Claws has some different options. I finally
pushed the right buttons. Now to experiment with it, set up filters,
etc.

Thanks.

Bob


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Re: Best backup option

2010-05-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/19/2010 02:19 AM, Christof Damian wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 03:06, Genes MailLists  wrote:
>> On 05/18/2010 06:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

>>>
>>> Here's my script to backup to an external USB drive
>>>
>>
>>  I'd suggest rdiff-backup (steven you may want to look into this).
>>
>>  It uses rsync library but adds ability to roll back as far back as
>> you'd like. The backup tree is browsable (just as an rsync backup would be).
> 
> rdiff-backup is brilliant. It gives you the browseable backup, so you
> can copy from the last backup directly. But it also keeps a history of
> the increments for as long back as you have space.
> 
> It is also pretty efficient if you use it over the network and I use
> it to make backups of remote servers.
> 
> Christof

I'm on my 2nd day of rdiff-backup and it seems to be working well.

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 21 May 2010 06:32 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... 
>> :-\
>
> Claws-mail-plugins-vcalendar does ical. Never tried it with Google as I
> prefer to own my private data.
>
> And the geolocation plugin is worth trying out - not because its
> particularly useful yet however.
>

Thanks Alan, I tried it out. Seems there is some basic support to google 
calendar. I'll try it out, right now I am using thunderbird with lightning.

> Alan

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Alan Cox
> Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... 
> :-\

Claws-mail-plugins-vcalendar does ical. Never tried it with Google as I
prefer to own my private data.

And the geolocation plugin is worth trying out - not because its
particularly useful yet however.

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Re: Fedora-12 boot fails at "Starting udev:"

2010-05-21 Thread suvayu ali
On 19 May 2010 13:28, Mike Park  wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:08 AM, William Perkins  wrote:
>>
>> I am having a boot problem on my work station with any of the
>> Fedora-12 update kernels.  The hardware appears to lock up with
>> no response possible from the keyboard.  They all fail by hanging
>> at the "Starting udev:" line during the boot process.
>
> It might seem hung, but try waiting a few minutes. For me, my boot
> time went from ~30sec -> 3min 30sec after a kernel update (I don't
> remember which one). But yeah, I think udev is the culprit... I just
> haven't had time lately to track down what's going on w/ it.
>
> Here's a bootchart I just ran today (3:33):
> http://imagebin.ca/view/xpnUEhhG.html
>

I had an almost similar issue and I ran bootchart, but I never got the
bootchart java chart rendering to work. I even posted to the list with
no response. :(

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/097670.html

Eventually the delay went away with a newer kernel. (it took many months though)

PS: Mike, it would be good if you could share how you got the chart
rendering to work. Maybe the OP can try too?
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread suvayu ali
On 21 May 2010 04:41, Alan Cox  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
> Tim  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
>> > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
>> > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
>> > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
>>
>> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
>> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
>>
>> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
>> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
>> painfully slow.
>
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
>
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
>

Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... :-\

> Alan

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:54:25 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

> On 21/05/10 07:41, Alan Cox wrote:
> > XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
> 
> > Is there an rpm for claws? I haven't had much luck with google.
> > I see a lot of plug-ins but not the claws app. itself? Yum doesn't
> > provide anything.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> 

Bob: Try yum install claws-mail.
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 05/21/2010 02:54 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
...
>>   Yum doesn't
>>  provide anything.

yum install claws-mail

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 21/05/10 07:41, Alan Cox wrote:
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
>
>
>
> Alan
>

> Is there an rpm for claws? I haven't had much luck with google. I
> see a lot of plug-ins but not the claws app. itself? Yum doesn't
> provide anything.
>
> Bob
>
>

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Re: xorg-x11-devel

2010-05-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Scott Sibley wrote:

> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Kevin J. Cummings <
> cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/20/2010 07:42 PM, Scott Sibley wrote:
>> > I'm not finding this package (xorg-x11-devel) on Fedora 12 through yum.
>> > Did it get renamed?
>>
>> xorg-x11-server-devel
>> xorg-x11-proto-devel
>>
> 
> I have both of those. I'm trying to compile Cinelerra and it's saying I
> needs the x11 devel package. It appears I have all the xorg headers, so
> maybe Cinelerra's just outdated?

xorg split up the libraries quite awhile back, anyway, you can start with
libX11-devel

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Re: Burning DVD Videos

2010-05-21 Thread Mike Martin
On 21 May 2010 01:33, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 13:14 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 12:47 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> > I'm sure MythTV on a spare box can do all this as well, there's
>> > something to be said for special-purpose boxes in this sort of
>> > situation. I'm open to persuasion however.
>>
>> MythTV is a large hairball to swallow. By far and away the most
>> difficult home project I have ever done. Is it worth it? Yes,
>> definitely. But only if you are going to use the DVR functionality it
>> offers. Using MythTV just as a media player is definitely overkill.
>
> I doubt I'd use the PVR funcionality, so that's worth knowing.
>
> poc
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People may also like to look at my GUI app for doing all this sort of
stuff. I get about 13 hours on a DVD, admittedly not too bothered
about HD etc

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 05/21/2010 07:41 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>>> it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
>>> or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
>>> Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
>>
>> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
>> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
>>
>> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
>> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
>> painfully slow.
>
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
>
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Adding a SATA card and an Intel solid-state drive will probably work 
wonders too.

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
Tim  wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
> > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
> > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
> 
> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
> 
> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
> painfully slow.

You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.

XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Alan
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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 05/21/2010 03:03 AM, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote:
> I did some more debugging: booted both kernels in single user mode,
> then listed the security contexts in /dev:
> 
> kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12:
> $ ls -Zd /dev
> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:device_t:s0/dev
> files in /dev are labeled according to
> /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts
> 
> kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12:
> $ ls -Zd /dev
> drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0/dev
> all files /dev are unlabeled_t
> 
> But
> $ fixfiles check /dev
> prints nothing.
> 
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Karl-Michael Schneider
>  wrote:
>> I cannot boot any 2.6.32.* kernel, right after udev is started I see
>> console messages like
>>
>> ln: creating symbolic link "/dev/fd": Permission denied
>>
>> and then booting is very slow and mounting the local file systems
>> fails. I believe it is a problem with SELinux because when I add
>> enforcing=0 to the kernel parameters in grub, it boots with no
>> problems, although I see many console messages like
>>
>> udev-work[678]: setfilecon /dev/fd failed: Operation not supported
>>
>> I also have a 2.6.31.12-174.2.22 kernel installed which I can boot and
>> which doesn't have this problem. But every newer kernel that I
>> installed does not boot when SELinux is enforcing.
>>
>> I relabeled the filesystem, but it didn't help.
>>
>> Any ideas what I can try next?
>>
What file system is /dev?

What does
# restorecon -R -v /dev
do?


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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
> it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
> or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs

To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
are probably going to be a big problem, too.

I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
painfully slow.

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Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12)

2010-05-21 Thread Karl-Michael Schneider
I did some more debugging: booted both kernels in single user mode,
then listed the security contexts in /dev:

kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12:
$ ls -Zd /dev
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:device_t:s0/dev
files in /dev are labeled according to
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts

kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12:
$ ls -Zd /dev
drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0/dev
all files /dev are unlabeled_t

But
$ fixfiles check /dev
prints nothing.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Karl-Michael Schneider
 wrote:
> I cannot boot any 2.6.32.* kernel, right after udev is started I see
> console messages like
>
> ln: creating symbolic link "/dev/fd": Permission denied
>
> and then booting is very slow and mounting the local file systems
> fails. I believe it is a problem with SELinux because when I add
> enforcing=0 to the kernel parameters in grub, it boots with no
> problems, although I see many console messages like
>
> udev-work[678]: setfilecon /dev/fd failed: Operation not supported
>
> I also have a 2.6.31.12-174.2.22 kernel installed which I can boot and
> which doesn't have this problem. But every newer kernel that I
> installed does not boot when SELinux is enforcing.
>
> I relabeled the filesystem, but it didn't help.
>
> Any ideas what I can try next?
>
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