Re: FC13 and kqemu again
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:48 +0200, William John Murray wrote: Unfortunately it doesn't fix the boot problem. yes, the kvm is made, but the VM's still refuse to boot. Clearly I am the only person seeing this boot failure as otherwise theere would be load screams. Does anyone else see the VM look up gPXE before grub gets called? That also is new and may be releated my failure? Bill Well! I tried again - and booted just fine. Now mw VM's are back. I don't know what was wrong, but I'm happy! -- Bill Murray ATLAS STFC RAL at: Bat 161 1-14, CERN, 1211 Meyrin, Geneve 23, Switzerland Tel:- CERN +41 22 7673028or RAL +44 (0)1235 446256 -- Scanned by iCritical. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand
On 02/06/10 03:55, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly. (At least I think so.) How can it be changed? Appearance Preferences-Theme-Customize Theme allows changing the default cursor but not others. Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is busy. Thanks - jon I belive it was an upstream Gnome choice iirc? Have you checked to see if the functionality has since been inbuilt to the main app. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: RPMs in FC13 with wrong or missing release
On 01/06/10 23:24, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: --snip-- I filed a bug report against evolution-remove-duplicates in the Fedora bugzilla. But maybe it should be in the Evolution Bugzilla. Who *is* responsible for this? you filed the bug they will get it. But there might be nothing they can do about it. http://people.gnome.org/~carlosg/stuff/evolution/ Has the functionality been built in to the main app? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:50 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On 02/06/10 03:55, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly. (At least I think so.) How can it be changed? Appearance Preferences-Theme-Customize Theme allows changing the default cursor but not others. Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is busy. Thanks - jon I belive it was an upstream Gnome choice iirc? Have you checked to see if the functionality has since been inbuilt to the main app. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System settings-Computer administration-Keyboard and mouse-Mouse-Cursor theme. It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text file. -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Pain is a thing of the mind. The mind can be controlled. -- Spock, Operation -- Annihilate! stardate 3287.2 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand
On 02/06/10 08:52, kalinix wrote: --snip-- It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System settings-Computer administration-Keyboard and mouse-Mouse-Cursor theme. It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text file. You can do: (but you might end up with something uglier) yum info */cursor-theme* should give you a list of alternates. yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse) Installed Packages Name : dmz-cursor-themes Arch : noarch Version: 0.4 Release: 3.fc13 Size : 6.2 M Repo : installed From repo : anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386 Summary: X cursors themes URL: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themes.php?skin=7 License: CC-BY-SA Description: An X cursors theme by Jakub Steiner used by OpenSUSE. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand
On 02/06/10 08:56, Frank Murphy wrote: yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse) Bad idea of mine, want to remove 200 pkgs. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Network Manager, WPA, available to all users
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:37 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: I have a desktop with wireless, due to some cabling difficulties. I'm trying to switch from Network to NetworkManager because we're moving our wireless from WEP to WPA-PSK. Using Network Manager, I can configure a connection with a static IP address and things seem fine. BUT, I want this connection established at boot time and I don't want to have to manually enter the WPA-PSK password. So, I used EDIT CONNECTIONS to edit the connection and checked Available to all users. When I click Apply, the Auto has disappeared from the list of wireless connections. Clicking on the network from the list shown my nm-applet seems to create an Auto that uses DHCP and has forgotten the password. How do I configure a WPA-PSK wireless connection that (1) is remembered and (2) available whether or not I'm logged in? -- -- Steve You don't have to move away from network in the first place. You can use wpa_supplicant with network. You just need to make sure it's started before network. -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = We are all worms. But I do believe I am a glowworm. -- Winston Churchill -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:56 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On 02/06/10 08:52, kalinix wrote: --snip-- It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System settings-Computer administration-Keyboard and mouse-Mouse-Cursor theme. It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text file. You can do: (but you might end up with something uglier) yum info */cursor-theme* should give you a list of alternates. yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse) Installed Packages Name : dmz-cursor-themes Arch : noarch Version: 0.4 Release: 3.fc13 Size : 6.2 M Repo : installed From repo : anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386 Summary: X cursors themes URL: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themes.php?skin=7 License: CC-BY-SA Description: An X cursors theme by Jakub Steiner used by OpenSUSE. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora Hehe, found it: for system-wide is in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme mine reads: [Icon Theme] Inherits=dmz-aa which is that ugly little black hand As I changed it to dmz, I found 'cursorTheme=dmz' in .kde/share/config/kcminputrc (I'm a KDE user) I knew it has to be a file :D -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = If I am elected, the concrete barriers around the WHITE HOUSE will be replaced by tasteful foam replicas of ANN MARGARET! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
SOLVED Re: Ugly little hand DMZ-Icons
On 02/06/10 09:32, kalinix wrote: -snip-- Hehe, found it: for system-wide is in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme mine reads: [Icon Theme] Inherits=dmz-aa Changed the heading slightly for digest\archive readers. Found it, works also in XFCE. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Saving VLC snapshots
Can someone tell me how to tame VLC so that snapshots are always saved to a specific folder? Currently it seems to use a random destination. Please cc me with any answer, as I don't seem to be getting the list messages even though my mailman page says that receiving is enabled. Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ntpd problems FC13
Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com wrote: This is done by adding the -x argument to: /etc/sysconfig/ntpd [...] With -x in /etc/sysconfig/ntpd, the ntpd startup script will first run ntpdate against a clock in /etc/ntp/step-tickers, if any, or from the general pool if not. That's no longer true for Fedora. Since Feb 29 2008 there's a ntpdate service for this purpose. Newer hardware has WAY better clocks than when ntp was written, and thus the default removal of the initial ntpdate run. Not an argument. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Saving VLC snapshots
On 06/02/2010 07:14 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone tell me how to tame VLC so that snapshots are always saved to a specific folder? Currently it seems to use a random destination. Please cc me with any answer, as I don't seem to be getting the list messages even though my mailman page says that receiving is enabled. In Preferences--Video Settings do you have a directory specified for Video Snapshots? -- Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi: The Force can have a strong influence on a weak mind. 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
This is Fedora 13 with the KDE desktop and all the latest updates: When I click on a pdf link in Firefox, I get a message saying the helper application doesn't exist and to change that in preferences. In Firefox preferences in the Applications tab, the helper app is set to Okular. If I download a pdf, as opposed to clicking on the link, and then right-click and select open with Okular, it works fine. In KDE settings, the file association for pdf's is also set to Okular Is there another place this has to be set?? -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Saving VLC snapshots
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 12:42:29 Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/02/2010 07:14 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone tell me how to tame VLC so that snapshots are always saved to a specific folder? Currently it seems to use a random destination. Please cc me with any answer, as I don't seem to be getting the list messages even though my mailman page says that receiving is enabled. In Preferences--Video Settings do you have a directory specified for Video Snapshots? I didn't - I thought I had gone through all the Preferences settings, but I missed that. Thanks for that. And thanks for the cc - I didn't get the list one, or any other list posts :-) Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problem booting F13 kernel
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 09:51 +0530, Jayakrishnan M wrote: Craig, On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 23:20 +0100, dexter wrote: On 1 June 2010 16:59, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 11:46 +0530, Jayakrishnan M wrote: snip Well that looks nearly sane from here, but I would move the initrd line in the F13 section to match how it is with F12 i.e before the boot and savedefault lines. If still no joy I would try re-generating initrd with dracut in /root and compare the two with lsinitrd.. indeed that is all it took Of course my other issue was only remotely related - the onboard nVidia just is so poorly supported by KMS and jumpy and unusable so I stuck in a video card and it's working much better Thanks Craig Good to know that you got it working. Did you check the difference between the two ramdisks? My guess is that the one you got while installing didn't have required disk controller drivers. since what fixed it was moving the 'initramfs' command above 'savedefault boot' lines, that the problem was that it was trying to boot without the initramfs at all. I think that there is a bug in grubby or whatever process installs the kernel on F13 which seemed to have the boot commands out of sequence. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: NMI error with kernel 2.6.33.5-112.fc13.i686.PAE
On 06/01/2010 04:50 PM, Steven Stern wrote: When using the latest kernel, 2.6.33.5-112.fc13.i686.PAE, my machine crashes with the message Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason a0 on CPU 0. You have some hardware problem, likely on the PCI Dazed and confused, but trying to continue And then it sits for a while and quietly digs itself a hole in the ground. I've dropped back to kernel 2.6.33.4-95.fc13.i686.PAE to see if the problem goes away. One possible source of this is that (see other message), I'm now using Network Manager to manage the wireless card and have changed from WEP to WPA. Googling indicates that this message is often associated with an Atheros wireless card. Anyone else having this issue? Since I've dropped back to 2.6.33.4-95.fc13.i686.PAE, it appears that the problem has gone away. Should I file a bugzilla on this? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand (and annoying progress animation...)
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:55:19 -0700 From: Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net To: Fedora List fedora-l...@redhat.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5 Subject: Ugly little hand The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly. (At least I think so.) How can it be changed? Appearance Preferences-Theme-Customize Theme allows changing the default cursor but not others. Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is busy. Well, you can switch back to Bluecurve (as I did). Just edit: /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme and replace Inherits=dmz-aa with Inherits=Bluecurve Be sure you have bluecurve-cursor-theme installed (yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme). Restart X. That's all. I would love to get rid of it completely. I changed my mouse pointer theme to Oxygen Black in KDE's System Settings. That worked fine except in Firefox and Google Chrome. There I still have the ugly hand. I even changed /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme to read as follows: [Icon Theme] Inherits=Oxygen_Black After logging out and logging back in, I still have that ugly hand. What I would also love to get rid of is the little animation that takes place by the cursor when it is waiting for something to complete. I looked through the mouse pointer themes in System Settings for one that did not have that animation, or just some way to shut it off, all to no avail... Yes, I have Launch Feedback set to No Busy Cursor. Anyway, any wisdom you can give me is greatly appreciated. Steven P. Ulrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand (and annoying progress animation...)
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:52 -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: I changed my mouse pointer theme to Oxygen Black in KDE's System Settings. That worked fine except in Firefox and Google Chrome. These are both Gnome apps, so you need to configure the Gnome settings. Try gnome-control-center. You might also take a look at GTK+ Appearance under Settings-Appearance. I'm hazy on the details, but this may require the gtk-qt-engine theme engine (http://code.google.com/p/gtk-qt-engine/). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server 1.2.6 Alpha 4
The 389 team is pleased to announce the availability of Alpha 4 of version 1.2.6. This release contains a new replication session API, auto DN index upgrade, and several bug fixes. ***We need your help! Please help us test this software.*** It is an Alpha release, so it may have a few glitches, but it has been tested for regressions and for new feature bugs. The Fedora system strongly encourages packages to be in Testing until verified and pushed to Stable. If we don't get any feedback while the packages are in Testing, the packages will remain in limbo, or get pushed to Stable. The more testing we get, the faster we can release these packages to Stable. See the Release Notes for information about how to provide testing feedback (or just send an email to 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org). The packages that need testing are: * 389-ds-base-1.2.6.a4 - 389-ds-base * 389-admin-1.1.11.a4 - 389-admin There are some new console/java packages too, and there is a new version of the 389-ds meta package - 1.2.1 * Release Notes - http://port389.org/wiki/Release_Notes * Install_Guide - http://port389.org/wiki/Install_Guide * Download - http://port389.org/wiki/Download === New features === * Replication Session Hooks - http://port389.org/wiki/Replication_Session_Hooks * Upgrade to new DN format - http://port389.org/wiki/Upgrade_to_New_DN_Format === Bugs Fixed === This release contains a couple of bug fixes. The complete list of bugs fixed is found at the link below. Note that bugs marked as MODIFIED have been fixed but are still in testing. * Tracking bug for 1.2.6 release - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=543590hide_resolved=0 -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Relabeling all audio files on a server
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 13:27 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: 1 - any mass rename opens you to disaster One fly in the ointment might be renaming one file to the same name as an already existing file. Here there be tigers ;-) I did pull out the directory name to prevent renaming that, and additional checks could be added to prevent the unlikely duplicate name. In general operations of this type are not safe, people do them because they are convenient. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
I have in the past, complained of hanging yum updates and over time, I finally realized that there are such things as bad mirrors, and for some reason or another, causes yum to hang indefinately. One would think that yum can detect hangs and move on to the next mirror to pick up the slack, but this is not the case, or so I am led to believe... Yes, I can add the bad mirror(s) to the fastestmirror.conf in Yum's pluginconf.d directory, but then again, why isn't it that these bad mirrors are being removed for misbehaving? For those who do manage mirror lists, the specific mirror in question is: web-ster.com Kind regards, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
Valent Turkovic wrote: In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his releases were rock solid so far. Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/ The vote that counts is how many sites browser sniff and reject anything but IE or Firefox? As a Seamonkey user I can tell you too damn many! And for some things webkit and Gecko are not /quite/ the same. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problem with awk
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 17:08 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
Hello,
I have a little proble with awk
here I have a file which contain data like this
101663.dat
1 122837.920343696
1 121875.899726134
1 8011.13164749145
1 24955.1102952732
when I execute
awk'BEGIN { }
echo $2
END { print Fin }
' testclean
I got this outpout
1 122837.920343696
1 121875.899726134
1 8011.13164749145
1 24955.1102952732
while I am expecting to get
122837.920343696
121875.899726134
8011.13164749145
24955.1102952732
without 1 at the beginning of the line. Can you help please.
gawk '{print $2}' filename
will do what you want.
If he's using spaces rather than tabs to delimit the fields, an additional
(g)awk option will be needed:
gawk -F \t '{print $2}' filename
Dave
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Re: problem with awk
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Dave Ulrick wrote:
Looks like a field separator (FS) problem. The field separator is used by
'awk' to divide a line into fields. The default 'awk' field separator is
\t (tab) but your fields are separated by spaces. Try adding this inside
the BEGIN {} block:
FS = ;
This would give you a script like this:
awk 'BEGIN { FS = ; }
echo $2
END { print Fin }
' testclean
Alternatively, you may specify the field separator as an 'awk' option:
awk -F 'your script' testclean
Oops! I zoomed in on the field separator issue without noticing that the
rest of your script isn't quite correct. Here's a one-liner that should
solve your stated problem:
awk -F \t '{print $2}' filename
This command will print the second tab-delimited field of every record of
a file.
Dave
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Re: ssh into kvm-clients
so, this had not been a solution :-( i would like to give the bridge-solution a try, but don't know how to set up a bridge in F13. is there an easy way to set it up or do i have to edit ifcfg-br0 by hand? i tried from http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-fedora-11-server , but virt-manager was not able to startup the guest, because br0 was not able to get up for him (even if ifconfig says it is...) Am Montag, den 31.05.2010, 22:33 +0200 schrieb brizly vaan van Ulciputz: Am Montag, den 31.05.2010, 10:48 -0600 schrieb Phil Meyer: I think that the rule set qemu uses is called DNAT by default, so we add: -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp -d IP --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination VMIP For each VM. At the end i would like to connect to the kvm-guests by their openvpn-ip (as all other openvpn-clients, too, by enabling client-to-client, no matter if it's an kvm-client, real host, or remote notebook...). So i would use this rule [on the kvm-host] IP as the IP in OpenVPN? -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp -d openVpnIp --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination VMIP and that works? crazy, i will give it a try, just too late for today. Hopefully, this is enough of a pointer to be of some help. if that works, you make my day :-) _ Luck up brizly -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work anymore. (F13)
Hi;
I have two of these which worked fine in older releases
[r...@localhost ~]# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 04b8:0002 Seiko Epson Corp. ISD Smart Cable for Mac
[r...@localhost ~]# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 05ab:0002 In-System Design Parallel Port
I downloaded kernel 2.6.34 from kernel.org.
I cannot find the checkbox in 'make xconfig'
Has support for these been removed?
I have an HP lasejet 3p which is now a room-warmer/paperweight.
Any help appreciated.
Mick M
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Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote: So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for you. long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely listed as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing then, I re-booted the machine for a different reason, and then opened Firefox and clicked on a pdf and a dialog popped up asking me what I would like to do, offering Okular as the default and a check box to make that permanent, which I did, and now, it works fine maybe my machine felt you breathing down its neck ;-) I've been futzing with this for months, never wanting to take the time to really nail it down... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problem with awk
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:44 -0500, Dave Ulrick wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Dave Ulrick wrote:
Looks like a field separator (FS) problem. The field separator is used by
'awk' to divide a line into fields. The default 'awk' field separator is
\t (tab) but your fields are separated by spaces. Try adding this inside
the BEGIN {} block:
FS = ;
This would give you a script like this:
awk'BEGIN { FS = ; }
echo $2
END { print Fin }
' testclean
Alternatively, you may specify the field separator as an 'awk' option:
awk -F 'your script' testclean
Oops! I zoomed in on the field separator issue without noticing that the
rest of your script isn't quite correct. Here's a one-liner that should
solve your stated problem:
awk -F \t '{print $2}' filename
This command will print the second tab-delimited field of every record of
a file.
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I don't know that the FS should be declared in the BEGIN processing what
about
awk -F '{ print $2}' file
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Re: Relabeling all audio files on a server
Not that incredibly difficult, but when I do it, if I have space, I create a tarball of the directories of files to rename. Then: find -type f dir | \ while read OLDFILE do NEWFILE=`convert_file $OLDFILE` if [ ! -f $NEWFILE ] then mv $OLDFILE $NEWFILE fi done create an appropriate convert_file shell function. If it's just a matter of translating characters, pretty easy to do from the command line. Heck, the shell function can be created from the command line and used. Beware my typos :) On 06/02/2010 01:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 13:27 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: 1 - any mass rename opens you to disaster One fly in the ointment might be renaming one file to the same name as an already existing file. Here there be tigers ;-) I did pull out the directory name to prevent renaming that, and additional checks could be added to prevent the unlikely duplicate name. In general operations of this type are not safe, people do them because they are convenient. ;-) -- Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution. Let us not make it a blank paper by construction. --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Wilson Nicholas, 1803 There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -- Ed Howdershelt (Author) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and larger one.
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 19:20:45 -0400, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Now, does anyone know if/how I can enable encryption on my disk partitions without havinig to use LVM? Yes you can do that at install time. If you use a custom install you can choose which file systems (and other kinds of block devices) get encrypted. I use encryption on top of raid without lvm for my stuff. If you have an existing system you don't want to reinstall, then it is going to be a pain to do. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
screen res problem
Hi all, I've been using Fedora since the FC7 release a long time ago. This past weekend, I upgraded to F13 from F11 (I know, I skipped one). The upgrade went generally well, except for one problem: It won't detect my monitor. In monitors, I am seeing only Unknown Monitor and the highest res offered is 1024x768, making everything gigantic. My monitor is one I've used throughout the last several releases of Fedora. It is a I-INC iH252 HDMI 24 inch diag. I am using standard input, no hi def or anything fancy. Another thing I've noticed is that during the upgrade (it was an upgrade, not a wipe clean and install new), Gnome was installed as the desktop rather than KDE. Now, I don't claim to know the difference between the 2. But, I've always used KDE. In SystemAdminadd/remove software, I have tried installing KDE and removing Gnome to no avail. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance *** I'm not dead, yet! *** Dave Ocame, WS1ETI Awards Chair The SETILeague, Inc www.setileague.org Stony Creek Observatory FN31og -72.834 longitude 41.272 latitude Member: The SETILeague, Inc., The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and, The International Trumpet Guild -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh into kvm-clients
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:50:03 +0200 brizly vaan van Ulciputz wrote: or do i have to edit ifcfg-br0 by hand? That's the way I've always done it. Just move all the ipaddr and wot-not into the br0 file and tell the eth0 file it is part of the bridge by adding BRIDGE=br0. I don't know if NetworkManager can deal with bridges. I always turn it off and turn network on. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:16:11 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: but then again, why isn't it that these bad mirrors are being removed for misbehaving? Often it isn't actually the mirror, it is some router on the path from the mirror to your computer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problem with awk
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:41 -0500, Dave Ulrick wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 17:08 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
Hello,
I have a little proble with awk
here I have a file which contain data like this
101663.dat
1 122837.920343696
1 121875.899726134
1 8011.13164749145
1 24955.1102952732
when I execute
awk'BEGIN { }
echo $2
END { print Fin }
' testclean
I got this outpout
1 122837.920343696
1 121875.899726134
1 8011.13164749145
1 24955.1102952732
while I am expecting to get
122837.920343696
121875.899726134
8011.13164749145
24955.1102952732
without 1 at the beginning of the line. Can you help please.
gawk '{print $2}' filename
will do what you want.
If he's using spaces rather than tabs to delimit the fields, an additional
(g)awk option will be needed:
gawk -F \t '{print $2}' filename
Now I am confused.The awk (or gawk)line I gave will do what he wants if
he uses spaces. Your change causes tab to be the separator looked for
which is not what he said he wants.
The BEGIN and END feature in awk is for doing special things outside the
awk loop like producing headers and trailers which are not needed here.
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Re: F13: Evolution icons - configurable?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:41 +0100, John Horne wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded to Fedora 13, and am finding the evolution mail client icons a bit awkward. I use KDE for the desktop. I found this image on the 'net of basically what it use to look like: http://www.backuphowto.info/files/images/howto/2007/linux-screw-10-total-4-unread-evolution.png Personally I preferred the old icons, is there any way re-install them? If not, then: 1) I used to have both icons and text on the taskbar (as in the picture). Now I only have the icons. Anyway I can get both back again? 2) The icons are a bit small. Anyway to increase their size? 3) The icons are quite close together, and over to the left of the application window. As seen in the picture, the icons used to be spread along the top. Anyway to spread out the icons a bit? Okay, it seems all 3 above are related. My work PC is still running F11 (until Friday), and I had a look at its Evolution settings today. Using 'gconf-editor' these 2 were set: /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_icons_size large-toolbar /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style both Now, just by stopping/starting Evolution I could change these settings, and see the effect. If I changed the toolbar style to 'icons' and used a 'small-toolbar', then I get pretty much exactly what I have under F13. (In fact the only difference seems to be the icon for 'delete message'.) If I changed it back to a style of 'both' - that is, icons and text, and a large toolbar, then the icons are more spread out, presumably because they have to cater for the text underneath as well now. It all appears as I want it. So, at home with F13, I set both of these using gconf-editor - to use a large toolbar with both icons and text. I restarted Evolution, and nothing changed. I logged out and in; no change. I rebooted the machine; no change. Gconf-editor (and gconftool-2) shows that these values have been set. I can also seem them in my ~/.gconf/... xml file. But for some reason Evolution (and others?) is ignoring them. I'll play a bit more with this, but this seems like a bug to me. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bash History How to?
Frank Murphy wrote: I would like to prevent .bash_history being created for root. And when sudo invoked by user. Have tried: export HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth but nothing seems to be added to .bashrc this has come abote as I seem to have /tmp/.bash_history which may not be good :( You can add [ -f $HISTFILE ] rm $HISTFILE to your .bashrc. Or just the rm command if you're more trusting than I... -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Relabeling all audio files on a server
On 05/30/2010 04:21 PM, Leonard Adjei wrote:
I have a server which houses thousands of audio tracks and materials.
Recently I started using a web application which seems to have a ew
problems with the naming convention used by default.
For example it has a problem with apostrophe signs ('), I want to be
able to create a script which goes to through the folder and all
files and folders under it and renames all the tracks by deleting
every entry of the apostrophe where it encounters them.
E.g. This ain't no game = This aint no game
Mr Brown's Last supper = Mr Browns Last supper
and like that. I want the apostrophe sign to be deleted but everything
else stays the same.
Any suggestions on doing this would really be appreciated. Thanks.
Other suggestions are good, but ...
When using find on files and directories where unknown characters may
be, learn to use -print0
This uses a NULL terminated string, as apposed to a white-space
terminated string, which is the default.
For instance:
$ find /my_dir -type f \( -name \*wav -o -name \*WAV \) -print0 | xargs
--null command
That way you can be sure that 'command' will work upon those file names
regardless of character composition.
Good Luck!
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Re: F13: Evolution icons - configurable?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 12:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:41 +0100, John Horne wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded to Fedora 13, and am finding the evolution mail client icons a bit awkward. I use KDE for the desktop. I found this image on the 'net of basically what it use to look like: http://www.backuphowto.info/files/images/howto/2007/linux-screw-10-total-4-unread-evolution.png Personally I preferred the old icons, is there any way re-install them? My specific nit is that the icons for Delete and Junk look almost identical, causing a lot of visual confusion. I would agree. The F11 'delete' icon is a large red cross, completely different from the 'junk' icon, whereas all the other icons are the same as I see under F13. However, with text underneath the icons, they do get spread out a bit more. (Although getting F13 to use icons with text is proving difficult!) John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:07, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his releases were rock solid so far. Can someone confirm that Chromium now runs flash and java correctly? One reason I switched to Chrome from Chromium some time back is because of these issues. Flash runs as fine as on Firefox here on F13 x86_64. I just can't make it run JNLP files properly, though, it opens them with gedit instead of javaws (probably something related to MIME-type handling). Anyone experiencing this? Test URL: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorialJWS/ui/PasswordStore.jnlp Regards, Andre -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:28 -0700, David Ocame wrote: Any help would be much appreciated. The first thing you need to do when asking for help is not to hijack threads. Instead of composing a new message to the list you just replied to an existing one and changed the Subject. Don't do this. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Installing Flash
Hello: I have just installed Fedora 13 and like it. However, there is one program that I would like to install but as yet have not discovered a way to do so. I would like to install the Flash player on my machine. Does anyone know how to do this? Thank you in advance, Rob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
On 2 June 2010 22:34, David Ocame doc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks for not providing any help. Fuck off prick! When you've quite finished with the rude words, you might also want to check out the list guidelines in full: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines This is particularly relevant: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Be_Courteous Yes, I realise I also didn't answer you, but I did actually assist you in conducting yourself in an appropriate manner so that others might want to help you. -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Flash
Around 10:31pm on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 (UK time), Robert Posey scrawled: Hello: I have just installed Fedora 13 and like it. However, there is one program that I would like to install but as yet have not discovered a way to do so. I would like to install the Flash player on my machine. Does anyone know how to do this? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash Steve -- (o www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 22:50:31 up 16 days, 1:58, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.05, 0.03 pgprF49x3SAOp.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Flash
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:31 -0700, Robert Posey wrote: Hello: I have just installed Fedora 13 and like it. However, there is one program that I would like to install but as yet have not discovered a way to do so. I would like to install the Flash player on my machine. Does anyone know how to do this? Kind of left off an important part of your info, which is which version of Fedora did you install, 32bit or 64bit? If 64, below is where you can get a flash.repo to put in your /etc/yum.repos/ dir. Otherwise, check out the adobe website for flash and you can get it there. 64bit http://www.dfm.uninsubria.it/compiz/fusion-testing/flashplayer.x86_64/flash.repo -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best lil town on Earth! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
On 06/02/2010 01:46 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:16:11 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: but then again, why isn't it that these bad mirrors are being removed for misbehaving? Often it isn't actually the mirror, it is some router on the path from the mirror to your computer. You mean a router outside my DSL router? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Flash
On 06/02/2010 02:51 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:31 -0700, Robert Posey wrote: Hello: I have just installed Fedora 13 and like it. However, there is one program that I would like to install but as yet have not discovered a way to do so. I would like to install the Flash player on my machine. Does anyone know how to do this? Kind of left off an important part of your info, which is which version of Fedora did you install, 32bit or 64bit? If 64, below is where you can get a flash.repo to put in your /etc/yum.repos/ dir. Otherwise, check out the adobe website for flash and you can get it there. 64bit http://www.dfm.uninsubria.it/compiz/fusion-testing/flashplayer.x86_64/flash.repo Sir: Thank you for your reply. I have installed the 32bit version. Rob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
On 02/06/10 22:56, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 06/02/2010 01:46 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:16:11 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: but then again, why isn't it that these bad mirrors are being removed for misbehaving? Often it isn't actually the mirror, it is some router on the path from the mirror to your computer. You mean a router outside my DSL router? Yep, somewhere between the mirror and your house. Do a hop count. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] Multi Master Replication + SSL
Stephen Agar wrote: That was my thought as well, so what configuration(s) should I check/change to ensure that it connects to port 636 as it's supposed to? http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/dir-server/8.1/admin/Managing_Replication-Configuring_Single_Master_Replication.html#smrepl-replagmt my urls for referrals are both: ldaps://other.server:636/dc=blah,dc=blah my replication agreements both have this: supplier: this.server:636 consumer: this.server:389 in the connection tab i have these selected: - use tls/ssl (tls/ssl encryption with ldaps) - simple authentication the documentation states that the consumer will always show port 389 there..but why? Where does the documentation say that? I believe the documentation says that the supplier will always show 389, but the consumer should show the actual port it is connecting to. thanks, stephen On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: Stephen Agar wrote: I have 2 389 servers that I want to configure in a Multi Master setup(I tried mmr.pl http://mmr.pl http://mmr.pl, but had to make modifications to allow it to connect via LDAPS, so thought that may be my issue, results below are from scratch following the detailed howto from 389 and redhat). I have port 389 totally disabled on my two servers. I have configured them as such: - server A: SSL, Multi Master Replica, agreement serverb - supplier=servera:636, consumer:servera:389 - server B: SSL, Multi Master Replica, agreement servera - supplier=serverb:636, consumer:serverb:389 My errors logs tell me: [02/Jun/2010:11:51:23 -0500] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send bind reques t for id [cn=repman,cn=config] mech [SIMPLE]: error 91 (Can't connect to the LDA P server) -5961 (TCP connection reset by peer.) 115 (Operation now in progress) Doing a packet capture on the loopback interface, I see it trying to connect to itself on port 389. So I try enabling port 389 and get: [02/Jun/2010:13:00:42 -0500] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send bind request for id [cn=repman,cn=config] mech [SIMPLE]: error 81 (Can't contact LDAP server) -5938 (Encountered end of file.) 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) Is the server trying to do starttls via port 389 instead of LDAPS via port 636? I'm stuck and looking for any advice. Looks like it is attempting to use LDAPS to port 389. Thanks! -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
Daniel B. Thurman writes: One would think that yum can detect hangs and move on to the next mirror to pick up the slack, but this is not the case, or so I am led to believe... It's been my consistent experience that yum waits about 30 seconds or so, before giving up and going to the next mirror. pgpW1AWK4ZaBS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problems with fetchmail
Ok why not look into the man pages for fetchmail, I know there is an option which can direct mails to smtp servers (not sure how postfix works). Mails end up in the directory /var/spool/mail/yourname which is where mail clients pick up the mails for you. I am assuming that you have a mail and the server is trying to append a new mail. I am used to sendmail but I am sure if you check the man pages for fetchmail options you should get all the help you need. You could also post the log here. Oluwagbenga Shobowale -Original Message- From: Mats u...@comhem.se Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:45:29 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Problems with fetchmail Oluwagbenga, I followed your tips (thank you) and found that a file called my_name.lock was created in /var/spool/mail when I fetched my mail. Then in the logfile access denied to that file. I have not solved the problem yet but it feels that I'm on my way. Thank you. /Mats tis 2010-06-01 klockan 21:15 + skrev Oluwagbenga Shobowale: I think your log files should give an insight to where the mails are and what is happening .. Please check maillog assuming it is configured in syslog. Oluwagbenga Shobowale -Original Message- From: Mats u...@comhem.se Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:40:22 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Problems with fetchmail Hello, I will try to keep this both informative and short. I have installed mutt and fetchmail under fedora 13. I have also changed from sendmail to postfix and it works perfect sending mail with mutt. When I use fetchmail -a to get my mail I can see that it fetch the mails but they don't show up in mutt. The folder in mutt is set to /var/spool/mail/user but it seems to be empty. I have no .procmailrc file (not in /etc and not in /home/user). My .fetchmailrc looks something like this: poll my.isp proto POP3 user me_at_isp there with password secret is my_login_name here And it's chmod 600 (obviously because it starts as normal). As I said, I wonder in what folder he puts the mail? /Mats -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
twin display f12
twin display on fedora 12 Hello friend I have HP pavilion dv4 laptop and fedora 12 is installed on that. I would like to display the laptop screen on other monitor. I do not have NVIDIA graphics card. Can anybody help me setting the laptop display on the external monitor. thanks and regards Simran -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing Flash
On 06/02/2010 02:50 PM, Steve Searle wrote: Around 10:31pm on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 (UK time), Robert Posey scrawled: Hello: I have just installed Fedora 13 and like it. However, there is one program that I would like to install but as yet have not discovered a way to do so. I would like to install the Flash player on my machine. Does anyone know how to do this? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash Steve Thank you for your reply. I have installed the 32bit version of Fedora 13. Rob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:34 -0700, David Ocame wrote: Thanks for not providing any help. Fuck off prick! Way to go in convincing people to help you. Did you actually *read* the list guidelines? Or are you one of those Superior Beings that normal rules don't apply to? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
On 06/03/2010 06:43 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:34 -0700, David Ocame wrote: Thanks for not providing any help. Fuck off prick! Way to go in convincing people to help you. Did you actually *read* the list guidelines? Or are you one of those Superior Beings that normal rules don't apply to? Of course he is a Superior Being. Don't you realize this he is... Dave Ocame, WS1ETI Awards Chair The SETILeague, Inc Stony Creek Observatory FN31og -72.834 longitude 41.272 latitude Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and, The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and, The Planetary Society -- Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level. -- Quentin Crisp 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
Of course he is a Superior Being. Don't you realize this he is... Dave Ocame, WS1ETI Awards Chair The SETILeague, Inc Stony Creek Observatory FN31og -72.834 longitude 41.272 latitude Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and, The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and, The Planetary Society I doubt his porcupine personality is suited for more than exploring the stars. Gawd forbid he actually encounters any real intelligence out there... they keep those observatories way out in the sticks for more than one reason! :-D -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 06:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Of course he is a Superior Being. Don't you realize this he is... Dave Ocame, WS1ETI So in the immortal words of Ralph Cramden: To the moon, Alice! -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problems with fetchmail
Yes, Oluwagbenga, sendmail is a good thing. I installed postfix because I thought it should be easier and more safe (I'm used to it on freebsd). Now I have switched back and it worked perfect as I wanted it. I'm not used to sendmail in fedora, in freebsd it's more just out of the box. I had to install sendmail-cf but then it was easy to configure and just do make and restart it. Thanks again from me. ons 2010-06-02 klockan 22:23 + skrev Oluwagbenga Shobowale: Ok why not look into the man pages for fetchmail, I know there is an option which can direct mails to smtp servers (not sure how postfix works). Mails end up in the directory /var/spool/mail/yourname which is where mail clients pick up the mails for you. I am assuming that you have a mail and the server is trying to append a new mail. I am used to sendmail but I am sure if you check the man pages for fetchmail options you should get all the help you need. You could also post the log here. Oluwagbenga Shobowale -Original Message- From: Mats u...@comhem.se Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:45:29 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Problems with fetchmail Oluwagbenga, I followed your tips (thank you) and found that a file called my_name.lock was created in /var/spool/mail when I fetched my mail. Then in the logfile access denied to that file. I have not solved the problem yet but it feels that I'm on my way. Thank you. /Mats tis 2010-06-01 klockan 21:15 + skrev Oluwagbenga Shobowale: I think your log files should give an insight to where the mails are and what is happening .. Please check maillog assuming it is configured in syslog. Oluwagbenga Shobowale -Original Message- From: Mats u...@comhem.se Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:40:22 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Problems with fetchmail Hello, I will try to keep this both informative and short. I have installed mutt and fetchmail under fedora 13. I have also changed from sendmail to postfix and it works perfect sending mail with mutt. When I use fetchmail -a to get my mail I can see that it fetch the mails but they don't show up in mutt. The folder in mutt is set to /var/spool/mail/user but it seems to be empty. I have no .procmailrc file (not in /etc and not in /home/user). My .fetchmailrc looks something like this: poll my.isp proto POP3 user me_at_isp there with password secret is my_login_name here And it's chmod 600 (obviously because it starts as normal). As I said, I wonder in what folder he puts the mail? /Mats -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
Claude Jones wrote: On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote: So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for you. long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely listed as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :( I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
Rex Dieter wrote: Claude Jones wrote: On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote: So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for you. long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely listed as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :( I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions. I take it back, I had a local pref set in ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list that was getting in the way. How about you? -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work anymore. (F13)
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:54 -0700, Mick M. wrote: Any help appreciated Since you say any help, if you cannot overcome this problem, or wish to avoid similar problems in the future, I reckon that parallel to network adaptors, rather than parallel to USB, are far more useful. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to stable. There are more, I didn't look at every update. Released straight to stable: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12 Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12 Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable without people other than the packager testing it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
humor Uh, dude. I'm an amateur astronomer and truly enjoy exploring the stars. . No need to insult us stargazers :) /humor This is an individual not suited to have any interaction with humans On 06/02/2010 06:05 PM, jack craig wrote: Of course he is a Superior Being. Don't you realize this he is... Dave Ocame, WS1ETI Awards Chair The SETILeague, Inc Stony Creek Observatory FN31og -72.834 longitude 41.272 latitude Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and, The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and, The Planetary Society I doubt his porcupine personality is suited for more than exploring the stars. Gawd forbid he actually encounters any real intelligence out there... they keep those observatories way out in the sticks for more than one reason! :-D -- Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution. Let us not make it a blank paper by construction. --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Wilson Nicholas, 1803 There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -- Ed Howdershelt (Author) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ugly little hand [Solved]
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 19:55 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly. (At least I think so.) How can it be changed? Appearance Preferences-Theme-Customize Theme allows changing the default cursor but not others. I was confused because only one cursor-theme was installed, namely dmz-cursor-theme (the default), which made gnome cursor control System-Preferences-Appearance-Customize Theme-Pointer seem not to be good for anything. As soon as I loaded some other themes, namely: bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2.5.fc12.noarch moblin-cursor-theme-0.3.2.noarch oxygen-cursor-themes-4.4.3.1.fc13.1.noarch this choice box became very useful. Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is busy. This may be better too. Haven't been able to check so far. Thanks to all - jon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
fnfx trouble on Toshiba
Hello, I have very recently migrated to Fedora from Windows. I have installed it on my Toshiba L505-S5971 laptop. I installed fnfx after reading about it in some forum. That went fine. Now with every boot I get the following message. Starting fnfxd: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.33.5-112.fc13.i686/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device FnFX Daemon v0.3 (c) 2003, 2004 Timo Hoenig thoe...@nouse.net fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys. Please make sure that your kernel has enabled the Toshiba option in the ACPI section. For more information read the documentation and/or http://fnfx.sf.net/index.php?section=doc#kernel. Currently, the hotkeys are not working. Also, I guess, there is not control over the CPU fan. It is being used heavily and all the time. It makes noise. Can someone help me with this? How should I go about this? Thanks -Yogesh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
On 06/02/2010 08:31 PM, Mike Fedyk wrote: Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to stable. There are more, I didn't look at every update. Released straight to stable: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12 Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12 Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable without people other than the packager testing it? I can't speak for the specific packages above, but I will sometimes push a package stable to Fedora N-1 that is identical to a package in Fedora N if the package in Fedora N got sufficient Karma. Maybe that's what happened here? -- Stephen Gallagher RHCE 804006346421761 Delivering value year after year. Red Hat ranks #1 in value among software vendors. http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
Mike Fedyk writes: Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12 Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable without people other than the packager testing it? Maybe because nobody is aware that something's waiting for some karma out there? I see that openssh was pushed to stable recently. I might've been willing to grab it from testing and give it whirl, but I'm not sure how I would've known about it. Whatever this errata fixed, it obviously didn't affect me, so I was not aware of the open bug, and a pending errata. It's just a hunch, but here's what I think happens most of the time: someone files a bug, the maintainer picks it up, fixes the bug, pushes the package to testing. So, you've really got just the bug reporter who's interested in the errata, and is even aware of a package. And most of the time it's an ordinary user who is not even aware of the underlying infrastructure. A canned message gets appended to the Bugzilla entry, saying something to the effect that a package was pushed somewhere. The bug reporter may not be aware of the fact that there's some kind of a mechanism to rate the pending update. The bug reporter is most likely waiting until he gets a popup from Packagekit, telling him that an update is ready. I had someone file a bug against my small, obscure package. It was an enhancement. I finally got around to coding it, tarring it up (I'm my own upstream), then grabbing it with my maintainer hat, building it, and pushing it to testing. So, how long should I wait for some karma? In the past, I've waited two weeks before requesting a push to stable. Is there a policy document somewhere that lays down the law, on this? pgpG6PXGibfoR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: twin display f12
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:01 AM, pankaj singh simranj...@gmail.com wrote: twin display on fedora 12 Hello friend I have HP pavilion dv4 laptop and fedora 12 is installed on that. I would like to display the laptop screen on other monitor. I do not have NVIDIA graphics card. Can anybody help me setting the laptop display on the external monitor. In most cases it is just the matter of plugging in the other monitor and starting the gnome-display-properties program (System Preferences Monitors or Screens) and turning on the other monitor through it. Be sure that the physical monitor is turned on too. -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.in -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
On 06/02/2010 03:20 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Daniel B. Thurman writes: One would think that yum can detect hangs and move on to the next mirror to pick up the slack, but this is not the case, or so I am led to believe... It's been my consistent experience that yum waits about 30 seconds or so, before giving up and going to the next mirror. Yes, that is true for a behaving mirror, but in my case, and on F12, it hangs a very long time (I went away for 30 minutes... came back, and no go!) So... it was strange. Seems that the hang in that mirror in question had a firm grip on the connection and would not time out at all OR yum thinks somehow the connection is still live even though there is no activity whatsoever. I had to ^C the yum connection to break yum, blacklist the offending mirror and try again. This time it worked. Strange. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable browser. I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the number that actually counts. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: netinst images: What's the point?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I'm not sure what's wrong, I just know it never asks me to initialize a network connection unless I specify askmethod, then it does it in the non-graphical part of the setup. I just pulled the x86 iso down (only had x64) and whipped up a vm in esxi w/ an emulated E1000 nic and it asked me to initialize the nic once I hit the gui before the package selection step. What kind of nic do you have? Maybe a bug wrt your hardware only? I'll try booting the image in Virtualbox and see if it prompts me for nic init. Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any 3rd party drivers. One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful. Thanks, Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: netinst images: What's the point?
On 06/03/2010 09:01 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any 3rd party drivers. One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful. Yeah. File a bug report against Anaconda and followup on it. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/02/2010 11:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable browser. I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the number that actually counts. Rahul Whilst above is true - the vast majority of linux users may very well be or will be using chrome even if they are not the majority of chrome users. Obviously because Linux is not the majority of desktop os' users either - tho it is becoming the dominant server os (see top 500 list for example how it is dominated by linux). So of course we are not the dominant browser users either .. so what. Chrome is the up and comer and will overtake firefox in due time imho. It is way, way, way better than firefox in a large number of important ways. It is young still but in a short time has gained enormous momentum. And it is not just windows users switching. However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I recall). At present chrome is eating mostly IE users and safari users ... and linux firefox users. I actually no longer know anyone using firefox on linux (not saying there are none) but everyone I know using linux - regardless of distro is using google-chrome and holding firefox just-in-case something has stupidly checked for IE/FF. Everyone I know used to use firefox on linux - and that has changed .. ok not 70 MM but quite a large number! We should be advancing chrome (or chromium) - it is in our best interest - to work on either chromium or with google to include google-chrome in fedora. Google has switched their desktops to linux or mac (users choice) - now theres a few more chrome users on linux .. ;-) gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and larger one.
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Hi gang! I installed F13 on my eeepc 901 on Friday. Since I changed the partitioing scheme, I backed up the whole thing onto a USB HD first so I could restore my home directory afterwards (in fact I also kept dd images of /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in case I decided to put F12 back on it later.) first small problem: I wanted /dev/sda (4 gig SSD) to contain /boot and /. I wanted /dev/sdb (16gig SSD) to contain swap and /home. I DID NOT want LVM. I DID want encrypted filesystems. But when I tell Anaconda to partition without LVM and without VG, it disables encrypted partition option. Is there any way to regain that feature? I'm a little late to the conversation but just to offer another option. I actually did want LVM on my EEEPC 701. I only have a 4GB main SSD as well and I also have a 4GB SD card it it. On my original install of F12 I found the SSD to be rather slow so since I don't keep anything important on it I decided to experiment with an LVM striped volume. I end up wasting a little space for two reasons. One I need a /boot that's not in LVM, and two, although both are considered 4GB storage devices, they are not exactly the same size. Anyway, I used gparted from System Rescue CD on a flash drive to setup my partitions since anaconda can be rather limiting, especially prior to the F13 version. Then I use the custom disk layout option and manually set everything up. I find a noticeable reduction in program load times with the LVM stripe and if eithe drive goes bad, no problem. Like I said I don't keep anything important on it. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I recall). You are just making my point for me. Chrome and Chromium aren't the same thing. If enough users using spot's repo provide feedback then picking it up over Firefox might make sense. Not otherwise. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 12:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I recall). You are just making my point for me. Chrome and Chromium aren't the same thing. If enough users using spot's repo provide feedback then picking it up over Firefox might make sense. Not otherwise. Rahul I dont understand your point. I am encouraging us and to advance chrome and/or chromium - either or both of working with google to allow fedora to distribute it - or/and advancing spots repo so it can be in regular f14 or sooner. If that is your point great. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 09:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: I dont understand your point. I am encouraging us and to advance chrome and/or chromium - either or both of working with google to allow fedora to distribute it - or/and advancing spots repo so it can be in regular f14 or sooner. If that is your point great. If the goal is to get Chromium into the official Fedora repo, it would require Google and interested contributors to work together to resolve the issues. Merely adding it as default in a remix before it is ready wouldn't help at all in advancing anything. Quite the opposite. If anyone is interested in fixing the issues, take a look at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 12:26 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: a remix before it is ready wouldn't help at all in advancing anything. Quite the opposite. If anyone is interested in fixing the issues, take a look at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 Rahul Good issues - so how do you propose fedora devs et al can engage to help advance chrome in linux - it is in googles interest and ours. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 10:03 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Good issues - so how do you propose fedora devs et al can engage to help advance chrome in linux - it is in googles interest and ours. The list of issues in that tracker comes from Spot's work with Google. If anyone is interested to help, talk to the Chromium developers and file patches. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
I think few people are aware of the fedora-easy-karma package, let alone the workings of bodhi. If a package does not get negative karma, I think the 2-week-wait / push-to-stable treatment is reasonable. YMMV. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
On 06/03/2010 10:28 AM, Darr wrote: I think few people are aware of the fedora-easy-karma package, let alone the workings of bodhi. If a package does not get negative karma, I think the 2-week-wait / push-to-stable treatment is reasonable. YMMV. With the exception of critical security and bug fixes which needs to be tested but for a shorter period of time. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
Le 03/06/2010 07:04, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : If a package does not get negative karma, I think the 2-week-wait / push-to-stable treatment is reasonable. YMMV. +1 With the exception of critical security and bug fixes which needs to be tested but for a shorter period of time. +1 I also encounter some very bad user experience - A user ask for a new branch / version of a package - I do the job and push it to updates-testing - After a few weeks, no feedback Really frustrated... :( So, I could have left it in testing forever, but I prefer to push it to stable (no bad karma), mainly because I don't want to manage a too long list of packages waiting in testing... Karma is really a great tool, but not enough used... + P.S. an example https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mysql++-3.0.9-4.el5 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: *sigh* I suppose I'll have to. It's always a pain. I prefer to climb one hill at a time. The Radeon driver and related stuff has been changing a lot over the last couple of years. F13 will probably work much better than F11 for your card. A relatively painless way to test this is to use a live image. You can see if there is enough improvement to warrant doing the upgrade before doing it. After tremendous pain, I finally managed to install F13. I'm still getting software rendering. I hate this. Has anyone *ever* used a Radeon HD 3650 AGP with linux? If I want hardware acceleration, do I have to get yet another video card? Is there any reason not to take a sledgehammer to the one I have? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
