Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter
On 08/13/2010 01:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: I mused at the time, what it would feel like for el spammero, to check the archive, and see that there was no outrage, just a bending of his will to ours (somewhat!). However, I feel you've chosen your spammer target unwisely. The particular person whose spam you responded to seems to have some serious mental health issues. As a layman, it seems to me that he suffers, in part, from some sort of paranoia. (A bit of research will show that he feels his neighbors are out to get him..) I am sure that in his mind his message to this list, and other lists, is a sincere cry for help and he would want folks to consider his contributions to linux and not dismiss him. It is good to see that there was no outrage. Yet, this person will probably not be checking the archives since he was unsubscribed, informed of his transgression, and other measure taken to (hopefully) to prevent additional similar postings. Even if he does check the archives I would doubt that the will bending would have any impact what so ever. Certainly no positive affect. Very interesting it turned out at the same time. I enjoy the occasional, brief, wholly OT discussion from time to time. Sometimes they become protracted as physicist wannabees, lawyer wannabees, astronomer wannabees, etc. feel the need to express their knowledge. At those times I wonder if the Fedora lists would be well served to have what OpenSUSE has. When these things pop up...and start to get expansivefolks are pointed to the special OT list where anyone interested can continue to enjoy the topic. All I know is this (and all I care to know) If it is 35C outside and I walk barefoot on the blacktop my feet get burned. If I walk barefoot on white sand beach at BaiShaWan my feet get burned. -- Boy, those Germans have a word for everything. -- Homer Simpson When Flanders Failed 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 22:40 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: A really clear explanation of the basic physics would require an extensive journey through lots of non-trivial material, and there is no way you can explain to a ninth-grader things that puzzled the world's best physicists at the beginning of the Twentieth Century. An argument I often used to make about school... We were expected to grasp, in half an hour, what some theorist had spent their lifetime working out. Not only that, but often from an incompetent teacher. I clearly recall upsetting our advanced maths teacher, one day, when I told him that I could see absolutely no point to what we were doing, that lesson. ;-) I still don't. Other things we learnt, yes, but not that. I don't mind a bit of time wasting when it's entertaining, or otherwise interesting. But not on something that we're supposed to slog our guts out to learn, and having our grades depend on it. If I have succeeded in making just one person productively curious, I think the off-topic bandwidth is justified. Oh I didn't mind the interesting information, and various other interesting diversions that we have from time to time. My comment was more to do with the waste of effort trying to build the ultimate cool computer, for insignificant gain, compared to just building an ordinary cool computer. ;-) Buy the one that looks good, feels sturdy, fits all your bits, can power them well, and has good ventilation. As far as my experience goes, any dark-cased electronics get hotter (temperature-wise) than the ones in pale casings. They absorb more heat from everything, and raise the internal temperature much more. You get the same thing with cars. Yes, black may well be more thermally conductive, but probably not in the direction that you want it to. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter
Tim: At any rate, it's unusual to use the case as the heatsink, unless you're buying one of those expensive silent PCs. It's the fans that do the heat dissipation. g: if you do not want to cremate the cpu, be sure you have a fan or two. Some don't have any, nor need any. They use heatpipes to shift the heat from the CPU, to massive heatsinks (the whole side of the case, with thick metal) that can absorb a lot of heat. The usual tiny CPU heatsinks aren't the world's best radiators. They do need fan forced cooling, at least since about the 386 era. And, even with it, they're not always that brilliant. Put your fingers on some of them, and they're still painfully hot, despite a fan whizzing its heart out. And they're very susceptible to mechanical failure, and clogging with dust. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Low sound Volume
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:32 +0200, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: You need to give some more information on which sound system you are using and which desktop. Did you check the audio settings of your desktop? What does alsamixer tell you? I am using F13 i686 version. Here is my PC spec: MB ASUS M3A78-CM with AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core and 4 MB. So far I had check every thing a push volume up to maximum, and volume still really low. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how do I get openoffice
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 00:27 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice. yum provides openoffice reveals nothing. yum provides *openoffice* buries me in output. I usually get the same effect whenever I want to install a package whose name I do not know. Did you think about using 'search' instead of 'provides'? Another useful tool: man yum :) Regards, Germán. -- Germán A. Racca National Institute for Space Research (INPE) São José dos Campos - SP - Brasil http://skytux.fedorapeople.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: security
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:39:49 +0200, kalinix calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:44 +0200, roland wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:31:04 +0200, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:40 +0200, roland wrote: I would like to give someone a login on my server. But, I would like to limit access to his home dir. With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected. Unless you get slack with permissions, they can't read files owned by someone else unless those files have read permission for other users. Likewise, regarding writing to them. No ordinary user can change system or application files, only their own files. And, as far as restricting them, that may depend on what you mean by logon to your system. You're sharing out a drive, directories, or actually allowing a direct logon where they can run things. Someone who will install a website on the server. So I thought to give him a login and config apache to read the dir in his home dir. He has to upload the files for this site. So I won't him to see only his home dir. So actually he will not run something, just install. chrooted ssh. http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted_ssh_howto_debian It's for debian, but it works ok on fedora too. You don't necessarily need to download patched openssh, as now the openssh fedora ships supports chroot out of the box. I looked it op for Fedora and CentOS, and it is available as well. If this works, that would be great. Will try it this afternoon. I thank you very much. -- Roland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: security
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:30:58 +0200, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:44 +0200, roland wrote: Someone who will install a website on the server. So I thought to give him a login and config apache to read the dir in his home dir. He has to upload the files for this site. So I won't him to see only his home dir. So, if someone else is going to install the serving software, they'll only need to be able to upload files to their workspace, not needing full access to the computer. Though they might, to configure the server. It depends on whether you provide them with an interface for that, or direct access. Moderately risky, more so if you let them install scripts, even more so if it can send emails. But not too hard to secure something like that. You want to learn what the common exploits are, so you can understand securing it, and competently test that you've succeeded. Lots of web hosts around the planet do something similar. Run Apache on some Linux or Unix, give their customers FTP access (or another file transfer scheme) to upload their pages, and use something like CPanel to let them customise their use of the webserver. Of course, if one cannot restrict the access, FTP will be still insecure. So first I will try what 'Kalinix' said, and install chroot. Thanks to you and all the others for your time. -- Roland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue? -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote: On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue? No. Java isn't used. It works fine here with F13, btw. Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13 x64 Dolphin Details displays double-spaced
Hi; I just started to get some folders displaying as double-spaced in dolphin. I always use 'details' as default mode. I have no idea how this happened, it is only on some folders. I can see no difference in these folders from others that display fine. Dolphin - help - about dolphin = version 1.4 using KDE 4.45 The system is fully updated as of just before this post. thanks Mick M. Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first. # find / -name *your base* -exec chown us:us {} \; -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote: On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue? No. Java isn't used. It works fine here with F13, btw. Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps? Does not help :-( Additionally, the same issue with a fresh installed opera. -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: security
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:25 +0200, roland wrote: Of course, if one cannot restrict the access, FTP will be still insecure. So first I will try what 'Kalinix' said, and install chroot. Thanks to you and all the others for your time. -- Roland As a matter of fact, vsftpd can be also chrooted. -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Everything is possible. Pass the word. -- Rita Mae Brown, Six of One -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how do I get openoffice
On 08/13/2010 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice. yum provides openoffice reveals nothing. yum provides *openoffice* buries me in output. I usually get the same effect whenever I want to install a package whose name I do not know. The simplest method is: # yum install @office Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote: On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue? No. Java isn't used. It works fine here with F13, btw. Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps? I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my 2x1.86 Ghz intel box). Kind regards -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
Today I saw a very weird behavior when mount samba shares. On F11, I used to mount samba shares with the following command: mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER Then I was prompted for a password. This way, my password was never printed on the screen. Now on F13, when I tried the same scenario, I got an error message: share mount is write-protected, mounting read-only could not mount share in write protected mode. After I googled around, I found that, in order to solve the problem, i have also to pass the password as an option to mount, like: mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER,passwd=PASSWORD Only thing is, by doing this the password will show up in 'mount' output: //sambaserver/share on /local/mountpoint type cifs (rw,user=USER,passwd=PASSWORD) and is not visible to me only, but to any user on that system that runs mount command. Does anyone knows how to avoid this? Thanks, -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Q: Why should you always serve a Southern Carolina football man soup in a plate? A: 'Cause if you give him a bowl, he'll throw it away. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
kalinix writes: Today I saw a very weird behavior when mount samba shares. On F11, I used to mount samba shares with the following command: mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER Then I was prompted for a password. This way, my password was never printed on the screen. Now on F13, when I tried the same scenario, I got an error message: share mount is write-protected, mounting read-only could not mount share in write protected mode. After I googled around, I found that, in order to solve the problem, i have also to pass the password as an option to mount, like: mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER,passwd=PASSWORD Only thing is, by doing this the password will show up in 'mount' output: //sambaserver/share on /local/mountpoint type cifs (rw,user=USER,passwd=PASSWORD) and is not visible to me only, but to any user on that system that runs mount command. Does anyone knows how to avoid this? Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable or via a credentials file. man mount.cifs -- Nux! www.nux.ro -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Cacti doesn't run on F13 ?
Hi, I've a F13 / PHP 5.3.2 and latest version of cacti. When I want to install cacti, I've the following error in httpd log : PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in /var/www/html/cacti/lib/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 833 Any idea ? BR -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[Way way OT] Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter
On Friday, August 13, 2010 06:42:29 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: Interestingly, the physicist Planck derived that emission spectrum from purely classical considerations of systems of harmonic oscillators. I'm afraid I don't recall the derivation, but it has the curious property that it explains a fundamentally quantum mechanical phenomenon without the use of any quantum mechanics in the derivation. Purely classical! It isn't purely classical. It has the assumption that energy is emitted in discrete amounts, ie. is quantized, rather than being emitted in a continuous (arbitrary) amounts. That was the crucial ingredient in the derivation. Of course, at that time quantum mechanics was not yet formulated, so the derivation was heuristic in nature (rather than being a straightforward consequence of quantum mechanics). But it was definitely not purely classical. Planck's Constant h is found in the function that describes that spectrum, and can be calculated from that derivation. By calculated from that derivation I guess you mean its value determined from that function and some experimental data. There is no theory that could predict the value of h, nor should there be any such theory. Now here is where it gets really bizarre: h bar divided by two is the spin of the electron! That is, when we say that electrons are spin one-half particles, we mean that their angular momentum is h bar divided by two. Spin one particles like photons have an angular momentum of one h bar. The presence of Planck's constant in the magnitude of angular momenta is immaterial. It is purely a consequence of the fact that we are used to measurement units of everyday life scales (meter, second, kilogram), which are obviously not so well adapted to atomic and particle scales. What is really bizarre is the fact that the spin of an electron is half- integer. One needs to rotate an electron by full two circles (720 degrees, or 4\pi radians) to get it back to its initial position. Of course, for an elementary particle the idea of classical rotation doesn't make much sense. But there is *no* classical body around us with such geometric properties, which is why we are so adapted to think that 360 degree turn always brings us back to initial position. And that is why electron spin is so bizarre. :-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0100, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable not feasible, as PASSWD env var is already used. And anyway, by using it I have the same error: [ca...@calin ~]$ sudo mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER mount: block device //sambaserver/share is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: cannot mount block device //sambaserver/share read-only or via a credentials file. man mount.cifs -- Nux! www.nux.ro Now this becomes weirder: [ca...@calin ~]$ man mount.cifs No manual entry for mount.cifs [ca...@calin ~]$ yum search mount.cifs Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security Warning: No matches found for: mount.cifs No Matches found man mount: Mount options for cifs See the options section of the mount.cifs(8) man page (samba-client package must be installed). [ca...@calin ~]$ yum list samba-client Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security Installed Packages samba-client.x86_643.5.4-62.fc13 @updates Any ideea where I could find that man for mount.cifs? :) -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
1. create a file anyware containing your credentials (I used /etc/.smbcreds) mybe use a place that only you can access Formate it like this username=yourusername password=yourpassword 2. run the mount command like this mount -t cifs //server_ip/share /yourmountpoint/ -o credentials=/etc/.smbcreds I use this on fedora 13 with no problems and no password in the mount command output hope it helps On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:07, kalinix calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0100, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable not feasible, as PASSWD env var is already used. And anyway, by using it I have the same error: [ca...@calin ~]$ sudo mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER mount: block device //sambaserver/share is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: cannot mount block device //sambaserver/share read-only or via a credentials file. man mount.cifs -- Nux! www.nux.ro Now this becomes weirder: [ca...@calin ~]$ man mount.cifs No manual entry for mount.cifs [ca...@calin ~]$ yum search mount.cifs Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security Warning: No matches found for: mount.cifs No Matches found man mount: Mount options for cifs See the options section of the mount.cifs(8) man page (samba-client package must be installed). [ca...@calin ~]$ yum list samba-client Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security Installed Packages samba-client.x86_643.5.4-62.fc13 @updates Any ideea where I could find that man for mount.cifs? :) -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- *Eugene Jansen van Rensburg* eMail: eugene...@gmail.com *Quit is NOT an option* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Low sound Volume
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:16 -0400, Luan Pham wrote: I am currently install and using Fedora 13. I just realize sound volume in Fedora is low. After do an intensive search for this problem, and I had learn this had been a going on problem since Fedora release 10. So how I make sound volume in Fedora 13 more louder. -- Luan Pham luanlx.lo...@gmail.com Do you have System-Preferences-Sound on your top panel. If so you can adjust sound volume. Laptops often an additional sound volume control on their keyboard. -- Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
From: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote: On 08/08/2010 12:32 PM, Vincent wrote: Hello, I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it didn't mount. Here is what I did: # mkdir /mnt/floppy # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt/floppy mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist I look in the dev directory the fd0 does not exist. I will appreciate help and thank you in advace Vinny try modprobe floppy first. did, no change. oops.. My apology I recall the previous entry that I was try different dir etc I correct to dev and every thing works fine. thank you very much. vinny I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double clicking the icon. The message appears unable to mount location no media in the drive. By the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line. You can try to access the drive by typing in: cd /mnt/floppy (that is where is shows up on my system) and then ls This should list all of the files readable on the drive. Any idea what else I could be doing wrong? Don't know. Not many folks use floppy disks anymore. You did state that the disks are read/writable under Windows, correct? I'll verify that my disk drive works this evening as I still have one or two around and a computer with a micro-floppy drive. James McKenzie I try $ cd /mnt/floppy $ ls it didn't show any files. I have 2 computer both behaving the same. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find On 08/12/2010 02:00 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello, I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it didn't mount. Here is what I did: # mkdir /mnt/floppy # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt/floppy mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist I look in the dev directory the fd0 does not exist. I will appreciate help and thank you in advace Vinny try modprobe floppy first. did, no change. oops.. My apology I recall the previous entry that I was try different dir etc I correct to dev and every thing works fine. thank you very much. vinny I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double click the icon the message appears unable to mount location no media in the drive , by the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line. Any idea what else I could be doing wrong? I had that problem because I did not have the floppy drive connected when I did the install. As a result, anaconda did not create the /etc/modprobe.d/floppy-pnp.conf file: $ cat floppy-pnp.conf alias pnp:dPNP0700 floppy alias acpi:PNP0700: floppy With that file in place, my floppy drive gets recognized at boot time just fine. I do not have those files is there way to make them? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how do I get openoffice
On Friday, August 13, 2010 08:42:53 am Michael Hennebry did opine: Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice. yum provides openoffice reveals nothing. yum provides *openoffice* buries me in output. I usually get the same effect whenever I want to install a package whose name I do not know. That is because OOo is indeed many packages, and with the dependencies I have no idea if its possible to install just one function. Generally, its all or none, and will probably need the latest Sun/Oracle JRE kit too. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Most rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read. -- Frank Zappa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how do I get openoffice
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 00:27 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice. yum provides openoffice reveals nothing. yum provides *openoffice* buries me in output. I usually get the same effect whenever I want to install a package whose name I do not know. In gewneral the command wshould be: yum provides */prograqm name In this case ther is no program called openoffice. It is called: openoffice.org -- Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[SOLVED] Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
Actually, I discovered that I don't have cifs-utils package installed. Now it works as it supposed to: prompting for a password at the console. TYA -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Accuracy, n.: The vice of being right -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal? For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called ListAvailable so I tried this: # yum list available Listtab and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand it. Is this expected? Yes. If you have installed the bash-completion package, then yum provides an expanded set of completions for its commands. The list of completions for yum list available [tab] are going to come from the repositories, not from the local files in your working directory. If you had a file names ListAvailable in your working dir, what would you want 'yum list available ListAvailable' to do? Per the yum man page, the syntax for the command is: yum list available [glob_exp1] [...] Having it expand a local file makes little sense to me. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million human beings collected together are not under the same moral laws which bind them separately. -- Thomas Jefferson pgpKZvqgwQnrx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:57:48PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote: On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote: Hi, I don't know whether somebody tried the following: I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox, so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit button, firefox begins to loop. Somebody has seen this? Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to displaying a combobox. I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue? No. Java isn't used. It works fine here with F13, btw. Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps? I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my 2x1.86 Ghz intel box). This is a known issue, because the component list is very long and (IIRC) is loaded with a JS. I don't know whether the BZ 3.6 update coming this weekend will help with this issue. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop
Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Sent: Aug 13, 2010 6:55 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:57:48PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my 2x1.86 Ghz intel box). This is a known issue, because the component list is very long and (IIRC) is loaded with a JS. I don't know whether the BZ 3.6 update coming this weekend will help with this issue. Poor design if it is pulling the entire component list for Fedora down at one time. Makes things VERY slow. Javascript or no javascript, it is still going to be slow and over a dial-up connection painfully so. (And I know about poor design for pull down lists, I deal with it on a daily basis...) James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:32 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: What does the DVD/CD media check exactly if booting a Fedora DVD/CD? Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media check, because it could be done after having burned the DVD? You can, but you might strike this problem: The disc checks out fine on one drive, but reads badly on another. So a check checks the disc on that drive, and you may wish to check it reads fine when you use it on another PC. Or you may be happy to forgo re-checking it. If not, is it possible to perform this media check immediately after having burned the DVD (means: can I start the media check from that freshly burned DVD?) Some burning software already does checksum the burnt disc against the master, immediately after burning the disc. I think Brasero does that, I'm sure others do, too. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how do I get openoffice
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice. yum provides openoffice reveals nothing. yum provides *openoffice* buries me in output. I usually get the same effect whenever I want to install a package whose name I do not know. # yum groupinstall Office/Productivity -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup
Reinhard Nappert wrote: Rich, I did some additional tests regarding replicationIds. Let's say, I just have two MM A -- B. I start configuring the replica and agreement on A and assign id 1. Then I do the same for B with the id 2. Everything is fine. Then, I disable on both boxes the replication. Then, I start setting the same thing up, but I start with B and assign 1 as id. A gets 2 as id assigned. Now, the replication fails with the message: Unable to acquire replica: error: duplicate replica ID detected I am pretty sure that it has to do with the RUV entry nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix, because it still shows: dn: nsuniqueid=---, dc=your,dc=suffix objectClass: top objectClass: nsTombstone objectClass: extensibleobject nsds50ruv: {replicageneration} 4c6445e40001 nsds50ruv: {replica 1 ldap://A:389} nsds50ruv: {replica 2 ldap://B:389} nsruvReplicaLastModified: {replica 1 ldap://A:389} nsruvReplicaLastModified: {replica 2 ldap://B:389} My replica configuration objects use the correct ids (1 for B) and (2 for A). All this said, I believe the server should internally delete the RUV entry, once the replica configuration object is deleted. Ok. Please file a bug. -Reinhard -Original Message- From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Reinhard Nappert Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:56 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup One more question: Can I read/modify the nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix object, without being logged in as Directory Manager. If so, what kind of aci's need I to set? Thanks, -Reinhard -Original Message- From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich Megginson Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:41 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup Reinhard Nappert wrote: Actually I tried this. First, I just deleted the attributes nsds50ruv, which was fine, from an ldap operational point of view, but when I wanted to set replication up again, the server complained with an operation error (nds50ruv attribute missing). Right, you cannot just delete the attribute, you have to delete the entire entry. Then I though I just delete the entire entry (nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix). This crashes the ldap server! Why does it not help, if I don't get rid of it? Since the info stays in there, even after replication was disabled, I can not use this entry in order to determine whether the server was already initialized, when I enable replication for a second time. I think, I found a solution to this by using some objects from my internal framework. However, the ldap server should not crash, when I try to delete this entry I think we fixed that crashing bug a while ago. Can you post a stack trace? -Reinhard -Original Message- From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich Megginson Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:44 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup Reinhard Nappert wrote: Thanks Rich. When does the server delete the RUV entry? After I set the server back to standalone, by removing the changelog entry, all agreements and the replica entry, I still see the RUV entry: ldapsearch -D Directory Manager -w password -b dc=your,dc=suffix -x -LLL ((nsuniqueid=*)(objectclass=nsTombstone)) nsds50ruv dn: nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix nsds50ruv: {replicageneration} 4c61bf2e0001 nsds50ruv: {replica 7 ldap://yale:389} nsds50ruv: {replica 6 ldap://mustrum:389} nsds50ruv: {replica 1 ldap://louise:389} 4c62a60c0001 4c62a60c0001 nsds50ruv: {replica 4 ldap://nix:389} 4c61c1720004 4c62c59c0004 nsds50ruv: {replica 3 ldap://yale:389} 4c62a5c50003 4c62a5f10003 nsds50ruv: {replica 2 ldap://mustrum:389} nsds50ruv: {replica 8 ldap://nix:389} 4c62d0290008 4c62efcc0008 nsds50ruv: {replica 5 ldap://louise:389} 4c62d1b90005 4c62d1b90005 I would expect that this would have been deleted by the server. No, but you should be able to manually delete it. It doesn't do anything if you're using replication. If not, this appraoch does not help. Why? -Reinhard -Original Message- From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich
Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said: You can also run sha256sum /dev/cdrom and compare the result with the published checksums. IIRC, you can in some cases get the wrong value with that due to padding (but it has been a while since I tried that, so that may not be a problem now). If you are looking at the master or mirror directory, you could use dd to only read the right number of bytes from the disk and pipe the output to sha256sum. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: kqemu - useful?
Athmane Madjoudj wrote: On 08/11/2010 11:09 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: On a machine with hardware virtual support, currently using qemu-kvm for VMs, is there a use for kqemu at all? And is it still useful to improve support on machines which lack hardware virtual, such as p4 and similar? I was a former user of qemu/kqemu before the merge of QEMU/KVM in F11, according to bug #520284 [1] the upstream said that kqemu is unmaintainable. Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have the latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not worth supporting. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520284 HTH Helps greatly. The hardware we got three years ago which ran fine up through FC9 and which was specified particularly to run Linux now has had xen, kqemu, and older Radeon support removed by the time we got to FC13. Fedora is cutting edge, replace the distro every six months, obviously replace the hardware at that time, too. Time to go in another direction. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal
On 08/13/10 10:32, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, having the following question: What does the DVD/CD media check exactly if booting a Fedora DVD/CD? Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media check, because it could be done after having burned the DVD? If not, is it possible to perform this media check immediately after having burned the DVD (means: can I start the media check from that freshly burned DVD?) Proposal: If not, it would be nice if the media checker would be placed on the DVD for running in normal mode after the DVD has burned - perhaps allowing to check both an i386 and x86_64 install DVD. Kind regards Hi, Thanks to all who answered to my question: I think, checkisomd5 will be the right tool for me (I have only 1 DVD device, so DVD-burner and DVD-reader are the same). Kind regards -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness
Eugene Jansen van Rensburg wrote: 1. create a file anyware containing your credentials (I used /etc/.smbcreds) mybe use a place that only you can access Formate it like this username=yourusername password=yourpassword 2. run the mount command like this mount -t cifs //server_ip/share /yourmountpoint/ -o credentials=/etc/.smbcreds I use this on fedora 13 with no problems and no password in the mount command output hope it helps Vastly, I haven't had the problem but I now have a pointer in my tips file, so when someone asks I can look smart. ;-) Many thanks. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:00:24 -0400, Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote: I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double click the icon the message appears unable to mount location no media in the drive , by the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line. Any idea what else I could be doing wrong? This is due to a decision the kernel team made to balance easy floppy use for old hardware and broken bios that cause long delays when checking for floppy drives that aren't there. Kyle had an idea how to make something that would be better in most cases, but I don't think he has had a chance to implement it yet. More background is in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565693 The email thread beginning with: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2010-April/002394.html Putting the modprobe floppy in rc.local I think will work as a work around. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: kqemu - useful?
On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have the latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not worth supporting Actually, it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained codebase. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Login excursion disables keyboard
Hi Folks, Can anyone else verify the defect i seem to see? my netbook is running fc12. after a recent install, i noted a yellow warning icon on the main login screen. i clicked on that to see what was the issue. upon return to the login screen, i find the CR no longer works (mouse click does). anyone else? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/12/2010 06:45 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/12/2010 07:16 PM, JD wrote: On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote: Normally does not search the current directory - it searches you executable search path for an executable starting with List. Not exactly. If your executable search path includes . (dot) then if you have an executable file in . and it's name starts with the string preceding the tab, then it will be completed with that filename. If there are other files in your search PATH wthat also start with that string, they will be listed as well. Thats why I said normally - the default executable does not include . - you have to add it. There are a lot of users that here will tell you it is a bad idea to include it. If you do include it, then it is a good idea to put it at the end of the search path. Mikkel Right. I don't intend to include '.' in the exec path. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/12/2010 06:20 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: Yes, that was how I discovered this anomaly - it was not expanding for some reason. I was trying to figure it out... what broke sort of thing... and it seemed to happen after an update, but maybe it is not related... I'm not able to reproduce this condition on Fedora 13 patched current as of last night. The behavior you're describing is not expected, no. Ok, thanks for the info on F13! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: security
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com writes: You may also want to consider setting his shell to rbash. See the RESTRICTED SHELL section of the bash man page. Treat rbash as a fun puzzle, not as a security measure. They did block redirects and ./doit file execution, but that is far from enough. With a few minutes pondering this solution popped up. emacs doit insert bash -i without the quotes . doit instant non-restricted shell rbash isn't that insecure, it has its own PATH, and I can't imagine putting anything other than the minimum tools needed in it. In the past I have made a /usr/rbin directory and hard linked only the things absolutely needed. It is not an optimal top security solution, but it's not quite as bad as you imply unless it's set up to be. It is quite useful for keeping newbies from hurting themselves. ;-) See other post for related replies. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 12:53 +0200, Christoph A. wrote: you might want to have a look at my thread flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working within SELinux sandbox although you do not have problems relating SELinux. I read that thread, Christoph. I had searched the list for the plugin before posting. A cursory google search didn't bring anything new up, either. I'm going to try google again later to see if anything new has come up, though. If you have a 64bit system, the following command may help: cp /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins I'm running 32-bit here. I know, it's not exactly ideal to do so on a 4 x 64-bit CPU but performance isn't a major concern at this time. let me know if that fixed the issue for you. Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned in my original post, I was primarily ranting against Adobe there. :-) Joe -- And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surly means that I don't know. -- Kansas, Carry on Wayward Son -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL
Christoph A. wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:03 AM, Joe Klemmer wrote: Upon upgrading to flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 flash movies no longer play. I get either nothing or a black box. Regular flash components don't work either. I know we're using flash at our own risk but, until everything moves to whateverthenextlatestandgreatest will be, we're stuck with it. If I remember right this happened before and I fixed it by going back to the version 9 plugin. Now I have to go hunt the darn thing down again. This message is more about blowing off steam but if someone does know how to get the 10.1 plugin to work it would be a nice bit of news. Hi Joe, you might want to have a look at my thread flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working within SELinux sandbox although you do not have problems relating SELinux. If you have a 64bit system, the following command may help: cp /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins Where did you get a 64bit plugin? There are separate 32 and 64 bit compiles of previous versions, did Adobe finally give us a 64 or can Firefox somehow run the 32 bit object? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 12:25 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Where did you get a 64bit plugin? There are separate 32 and 64 bit compiles of previous versions, did Adobe finally give us a 64 or can Firefox somehow run the 32 bit object? I'm pretty sure all he's doing is linking the 32-bit plugin into the lib64 directory. Doing so fakes out firefox so things work. More or less. -- And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surly means that I don't know. -- Kansas, Carry on Wayward Son -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I'm not able to reproduce this condition on Fedora 13 patched current as of last night. The behavior you're describing is not expected, no. Ok, thanks for the info on F13! I can reproduce this behaviour exactly. I have the bash-completion package installed. Do you? poc Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again. Does not work for me for some reason... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[389-users] Replication from Fedora DS to OpenLDAP
I've been doing some investigation for getting replication between DS and OL working. According to http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:OpenldapIntegration it is possible but not documented. After reading this http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/389-users/2007-September/006162.html it is obviously doable but my question is this : Has anyone accomplished this in a working fashion? And if so, are you willing to share with the list or off list directly to me your experience? Thanks, Wes -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Installing DD-WRT -
Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT? More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to repair damage but no step by step stuff. It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy confidence ... This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding information elsewhere. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. Bob -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:24 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT? More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to repair damage but no step by step stuff. It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy confidence ... This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding information elsewhere. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:24 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT? More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to repair damage but no step by step stuff. It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy confidence ... This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding information elsewhere. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Have you looked here? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:24:25 -0400, Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT? It's been a while (I use OpenWRT for new stuff), but I just followed the instructions on their web pages. It involved using tftp and worked well. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. If you think you might want to do any customization of the firmware (not just the settings), than OpenWRT might be a better choice. I have done OpenWRT trunk builds on Fedora and it works pretty nice. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL
Joe Klemmer klemm...@webtrek.com wrote: Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned in my original post, I was primarily ranting against Adobe there. :-) Rather than rant against Adobe, rant against the web designers that don't use standard files because they are LAZY and 'don't know how to do it that way'. Of course, Flash gives you 'real content'. I dont't think so, but it is a real good way to waste bandwidth. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig -- Have you looked here? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset. What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for someone who has done this. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
Bob Goodwin wrote: On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig -- Have you looked here? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset. What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for someone who has done this. Bob A Hard Reset on a wireless router on DD-WRT means you just cleared your NVRAM settings. Not what is flashed to the CMOS, but what configurations persist on reboot, IE your settings and IP's and everything, which is then set back to default, usually 192.168.100.1 or some such setup. You need to make sure you are wired directly to the router and you will need to change your IP to match the default of the router if you have customized it. ~Seann smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Um, look closely: # yum list available Listtab There is an output redirect, that is, the '' character before the ListTab This should have worked... right? Indeed, I missed that important detail in your output. Sorry for confusing the issue. That does look like a potential bug (or mis-feature ;) in bash-completion on F12. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. -- W.C. Fields pgpg1bLSroFkq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 13/08/10 14:56, Seann wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig -- Have you looked here? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset. What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for someone who has done this. Bob A Hard Reset on a wireless router on DD-WRT means you just cleared your NVRAM settings. Not what is flashed to the CMOS, but what configurations persist on reboot, IE your settings and IP's and everything, which is then set back to default, usually 192.168.100.1 or some such setup. You need to make sure you are wired directly to the router and you will need to change your IP to match the default of the router if you have customized it. ~Seann Ok, that is reassuring. Right now I am suffering from information overload again. Also OpenWrt appears to have a better set of instructions [for someone who doesn't know what he's doing] if I can ever figure out what software I need to download. I'm working at it, will muddle through somehow. Thanks to all. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On Fri August 13 2010, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but... yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I remember correctly) Craig Have you looked here? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset. What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for someone who has done this. The Hard Reset resets the router back to the factory default settings. I've never done it on that router, but on the Linksys routers I've flashed, I have NOT had to hard reset it before upgrading. Only after the initial install. Also, on some Linksys routers, you had to install the mini version first as the router would choke on the full install, but after installing the mini DD-WRT you can proceed to install the full size version. Keep in mind this may only apply to Linksys routers. I don't know a thing about the Netgear. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Selinux beating up on Chromium
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Thursday, June 17, 2010 21:00:41 Jim wrote: FC13/KDE setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/chrome-sandbox net_raw access . For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l 68797c25-9748-4ab8-b020-f63a80f543a7 I just came back from a holiday and had the new google-chrome-beta-6.0.472.33-55501.i386 in an F12 box, and I find that as soon as I start up chrome I am getting what seems to the the same avc: Summary: SELinux is preventing /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox net_raw access . Detailed Description: [chrome-sandbox has a permissive type (chrome_sandbox_t). This access was not denied.] SELinux denied access requested by chrome-sandbox. It is not expected that this access is required by chrome-sandbox and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is causing it to require additional access. Allowing Access: You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Please file a bug report. Additional Information: Source Contextunconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target Contextunconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target ObjectsNone [ capability ] Sourcechrome-sandbox Source Path /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox Port Unknown Host home1.mdc.sapience.com Source RPM Packages google-chrome-beta-6.0.472.33-55501 Target RPM Packages Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.32-118.fc12 Selinux Enabled True Policy Type targeted Enforcing ModeEnforcing Plugin Name catchall Host Name xxx.xxx.xxx.com Platform Linux xxx.xxx.xxx.com 2.6.32.16-150.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Jul 24 05:25:42 UTC 2010 i686 i686 Alert Count 3 First SeenFri 13 Aug 2010 07:50:31 PM BST Last Seen Fri 13 Aug 2010 09:16:47 PM BST Local ID 81e1f781-9dbd-4dbf-926b-b6334a67aac6 Line Numbers Raw Audit Messages node=xxx.xxx.xxx.com type=AVC msg=audit(1281730607.936:35598): avc: denied { net_raw } for pid=32256 comm=chrome-sandbox capability=13 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability node=xxx.xxx.xxx.com type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1281730607.936:35598): arch=4003 syscall=120 success=yes exit=32257 a0=60020011 a1=0 a2=0 a3=0 items=0 ppid=32252 pid=32256 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=76 comm=chrome-sandbox exe=/opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null) Has anyone found a solution yet? Thanks -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
Hi there, Go into your desktop of choice, and right click on the network manager icon, then edit connections and edit the wireless connection you want available in runlevel 3 then tick the box to make available to all users then when you go into runlevel 3 that connection will still be connected in runlevel 3 Martin Airs http://www.airs.me.uk On 08/13/2010 08:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: kqemu - useful?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have the latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not worth supporting Actually, it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained codebase. I think we are saying almost the same thing. The codebase is poorly maintained because the people working on the drivers are not spending time testing changes to see if they break old cards. I assume the developers have the latest because (a) they are adding features using the 3D features, and (b) if they were using the 2-3 year old cards they wouldn't be developing anything, because they would be running in text or VESA mode. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: kqemu - useful?
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have the latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not worth supporting Actually, it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained codebase. I think we are saying almost the same thing. The codebase is poorly maintained because the people working on the drivers are not spending time testing changes to see if they break old cards. I assume the developers have the latest because (a) they are adding features using the 3D features, and (b) if they were using the 2-3 year old cards they wouldn't be developing anything, because they would be running in text or VESA mode. I think you may be confusing your frustrations over kqemu and nouveau with each other.. -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote: On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal? For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called ListAvailable so I tried this: # yum list available Listtab and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand it. Is this expected? In your .bashrc set complete-file ^I^I (that's Control-I twice) I tried it (logged out and back in) and it does not change anything. Same behaviour. It is interesting there are different behaviours: # LTab LabPlot LibraryLocal # cd DeskTab (expanded to Desktop, so it worked) # LTab LabPlot LibraryLocal # ListTab (Beeps everytime a Tab is hit, but no list is given) Dumb question - is there a file List or Listsomething in the current directory? From what you describe, it does not sound like there is... As for running ListTab, do you have a command List or Listsomething in your path? Mikkel Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in the Desktop directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there. It seems that bash-completion does not work on local files that are known to be there, and I tried it on links, and directories (except for Desktop which it did expand) UNLESS it is prefixed with certain commands in front of it, such as: # cd ~/Desktop # ls ListTab ListAvailable So it worked. But these fails: # ListTab # ./ListTab # yum list available ListTab The first one fails because you don't have the current directory in your PATH (and shouldn't, it's vastly safer to type ./ when you mean it). The second fails because the file isn't executable, so it's not a command. The third fails because ListAvailable is not a normal writable file (I don't have a guess what it is, though). Enter ls -ld List* and it will (probably) tell you something useful. If you are expecting files in the Desktop directory to be commands, that's not normally the case. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again. Does not work for me for some reason... Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Vesa Drivers - fedora instalation
David A. Paredes Rios wrote: Hello guys, i have a doubt, there is anyway to install fedora with vesa drivers or generic video drivers as default? Because i have some problems installing my fedora, after install, i have video problems, then someone give me a command or something to install with default vesa drivers, and it works fine, anyone knows how to do it? The last time I looked, there was Install a system with basic video drivers which I believe is what you want. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start That's it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 01:56 PM, Martin Airs wrote: Hi there, Go into your desktop of choice, and right click on the network manager icon, then edit connections and edit the wireless connection you want available in runlevel 3 then tick the box to make available to all users then when you go into runlevel 3 that connection will still be connected in runlevel 3 Martin Airs http://www.airs.me.uk Hi Martin, the OP said single user mode, so there is no desktop. I have already responded to him with exactly I do when in single user mode and need wireless internet in that mode. On 08/13/2010 08:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:30 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I can reproduce this behaviour exactly. I have the bash-completion package installed. Do you? poc Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again. Does not work for me for some reason... Why do you say it doesn't work? The examples you've given so far are not bugs (or rather you haven't given enough detail to say that they *are* bugs). rant Unfortunately bash-completion is *very* poorly documented. There's no info file or man page and the online site is not at all informative. The info file on bash itself only documents the basic completion functions but not how the bash-comnpletion package uses them. The devels seem to think that one should just know how it works because to a large extent it copies some of the functionality of other shells such as zsh. Or you can read the config files. This is hardly acceptable IMHO. /rant The upshot is that while your first two examples (completion of the first word on the line) are clear and are almost certainly not bugs, the third example (redirecting stdout) is mysterious and seems to depend on which specific command you're typing. I asked you to check what happens with ls fooTab but you don't seem to have replied so far. IOW this may or may not be a bug, but without a clear description of what *should* happen it's hard to tell. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start That's it. Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/13/2010 02:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again. Does not work for me for some reason... Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere. Ok, tried it. It does not do anything at all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/13/2010 02:15 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote: On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal? For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called ListAvailable so I tried this: # yum list available Listtab and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand it. Is this expected? In your .bashrc set complete-file ^I^I (that's Control-I twice) I tried it (logged out and back in) and it does not change anything. Same behaviour. It is interesting there are different behaviours: # LTab LabPlot LibraryLocal # cd DeskTab (expanded to Desktop, so it worked) # LTab LabPlot LibraryLocal # ListTab (Beeps everytime a Tab is hit, but no list is given) Dumb question - is there a file List or Listsomething in the current directory? From what you describe, it does not sound like there is... As for running ListTab, do you have a command List or Listsomething in your path? Mikkel Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in the Desktop directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there. It seems that bash-completion does not work on local files that are known to be there, and I tried it on links, and directories (except for Desktop which it did expand) UNLESS it is prefixed with certain commands in front of it, such as: # cd ~/Desktop # ls ListTab ListAvailable So it worked. But these fails: # ListTab # ./ListTab # yum list available ListTab The first one fails because you don't have the current directory in your PATH (and shouldn't, it's vastly safer to type ./ when you mean it). The second fails because the file isn't executable, so it's not a command. The third fails because ListAvailable is not a normal writable file (I don't have a guess what it is, though). Enter ls -ld List* and it will (probably) tell you something useful. ListAvailable is a writable text file: $ ls -ld List* -rw-rw-r--. 1 ME ME 920208 2010-08-12 14:00 ListAvailable If you are expecting files in the Desktop directory to be commands, that's not normally the case. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?! wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 03:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start That's it. Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. poc No it is not. As the OP states - he is in single user mode!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?! wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway. Forgot: ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig wlan0 essid essid key s:asciikey dhclient wlan0 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/13/2010 03:14 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/13/2010 02:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again. Does not work for me for some reason... Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere. Ok, tried it. It does not do anything at all. Completion is user defined. If you define it as Esc, then it is escape. If you define it as TabTab then that's what it is. Be careful is your shell also uses vi mode for command line editing. For example: I use ksh. in my .profile, set -o vi allows me to bring up command history with Esc\pattern which lists the neares command in the history. Now if I press Esc then v i will enter vi edit screen to do extensive changes to the command, In such a case, you do not want Esc to be your filename completion character. Otherwise, Esc is a valid choice for filename completion. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-13 new wireless routers -
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes: Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan. Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi. To be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and highly talented kid living next door. I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, thankfully. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?! wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway. Back that up with a how to then!! Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver. Unless the OP has specified a different driver in /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:38 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?! wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway. Back that up with a how to then!! Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver. Unless the OP has specified a different driver in /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant. wpa_supplicant is for wpa - as its name imples -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-13 new wireless routers -
On 08/13/2010 05:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes: Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan. Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi. To be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and highly talented kid living next door. I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, thankfully. These days, WEP is a way of saying that it is not an open network, not a security measure. It keeps honest people out, at least most of the time... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
oops ok, sorry peace out Martin Airs http://www.airs.me.uk On 08/13/2010 11:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 03:30 PM, Tom H wrote: ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig wlan0 essidessid key s:asciikey dhclient wlan0 Are you so sure?? sudo ifconfig ra0 up sudo iwconfig ra0 essid MYEssID key s:SomeLongText.. sudo dhclient ra0 Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) : SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: bash-completion issues?
On 08/13/2010 03:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ls fooTab Oh, sorry - there was a LOT to read! :/ I tried what you asked: $ ls ListTab ... and it expanded to ListAvailable (or was it ListInstalled) Anyway, it worked. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-13 qnw wireless routers -
Bob Goodwin wrote: This is a current updated f-13 computer connected to our home LAN. I have been using a Buffalo Airstation WLI-TX4-AG300N, essentially an Ethernet wireless adapter to access the system. I recently bought a Netgear WNDR330 dual band N wireless router and am having a lot of trouble getting it to perform as advertised. This is a less than 20 year old typical two story frame house. I would expect the walls to be essentially transparent to RF energy. Normally the distance between the router and the wireless adapter is less than forty feet and there has been no problem operating in the 2.4 gHz band however I find that with equipment located as it has been for several years the new router will not function at that distance in the 5 gHz band. In fact to get any connection at all I have to reduce the distance to about ten feet which pretty well negates the advantage of a wireless system. I decided several years ago that running cables in this house is out of the question. Does anyone have experience with a similar system? I would be interested to know if my observations are typical or if I have an equipment problem. I am considering obtaining a different wireless adapter device to replace the Buffalo unit since it is the only thing unchanged here. Any suggestions or observations will be appreciated. I feel,like I am operating in a vacuum with no one to consult. When Wireless-n was approved I bought a cheap Rosewill AP from Newegg and a USB dongle, and a PCI USB card so I could learn ad hoc networks. I am in an 1895 three story Victorian house, my computer room is on the 2nd floor. I bought this equipment because it was cheap and I could return it. Haven't yet. I work all over the house, on the porch, in the back yard, it's all good. My usual workplace is a recliner in the library, in front of the TV. Get 100Mb or so, not bonding, little of what I do needs speed, but dead reliable. I hope this is similar enough to be useful. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 03:30 PM, Tom H wrote: ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig wlan0 essidessid key s:asciikey dhclient wlan0 Are you so sure?? sudo ifconfig ra0 up sudo iwconfig ra0 essid MYEssID key s:SomeLongText... sudo dhclient ra0 Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) : SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument. I've use this in the past with wep access points. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 03:41 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:38 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: Fc12, X86_64 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 192.168.1.1 Router . Eth0 is not available in this application. service wpa_supplicant start wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router then service network start Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to lead to headaches down the road. I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?! wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway. Back that up with a how to then!! Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver. Unless the OP has specified a different driver in /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant. wpa_supplicant is for wpa - as its name imples Again - not so in this neck of the woods. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me a IP . iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064 works , but it didn't like 's' so I let it out . The key is a Hex key. iwlist wlan0 key, shows a key -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 08:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me a IP . iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064 works , but it didn't like 's' so I let it out . The key is a Hex key. iwlist wlan0 key, shows a key Now it is Connected, but it sure took a long to connect. I was watching the DHCP connection in Router and after about 10 minutes it connected. The ; -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 08:13 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: On 08/13/2010 08:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me a IP . iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064 works , but it didn't like 's' so I let it out . The key is a Hex key. iwlist wlan0 key, shows a key Now it is Connected, but it sure took a long to connect. I was watching the DHCP connection in Router and after about 10 minutes it connected. The ; The; ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig wlan0 dd-wrt key 9856231080 (hex Key) dhclient wlan0 Did the job -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-13 new wireless routers -
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes: Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan. Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi. To be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and highly talented kid living next door. I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, thankfully. Reminds me of the joke about the two hikers preparing for a bear encounter. One hiker is removing his hiking boots and putting on sneakers. The other points out how useless this is because you can't outrun a bear. The first retorts, I don't have to outrun the bear I only have to outrun you. In the same vein, you don't need great security, you just need something better than the school next door. ;-) Personally, I still believe in WPA2-only with CCMP-only and hex passwords pulled from /dev/random. It's not that much more work to set up that way and give the attackers something very substantial to chew on. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ (IPv6-only) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 05:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me a IP . iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064 works , but it didn't like 's' so I let it out . The key is a Hex key. iwlist wlan0 key, shows a key I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless. In short: it NEVER worked. So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine. ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Yum update , Went Bad
FC12, X86_64 Doing a yum update I get this Error message. There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: No module named cElementTree Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jun 4 2010, 18:28:58) [GCC 4.4.3 20100127 (Red Hat 4.4.3-4)] If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to the yum faq at: http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/Faq And I did a locate cElementTree , and; /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.py /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyc /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyo I'm working from a Single User Mode, And the Computer is crashed and I want to Upgrade to to FC13 but yum is causing problems. I do have the network up in Single user mode. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 07:50 PM, JD wrote: I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless. In short: it NEVER worked. So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine. ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up One thing I have run into with WEP is that depending on the settings of the access point, you may have to add the restricted option to the key. This set the security mode. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode
On 08/13/2010 08:50 PM, JD wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote: sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network available in runlevel 3. But the OP wants it in runlevel 1. ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me a IP . iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064 works , but it didn't like 's' so I let it out . The key is a Hex key. iwlist wlan0 key, shows a key I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless. In short: it NEVER worked. So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine. ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up I think the problem is dhclient took so long to get a connection. I was just sitting and watching the Router and after about ten minutes I saw the IP pop up on router for my Wireless Connection. And it is staying connected after one hour in Single User Mode. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yum update , Went Bad
On 08/13/2010 05:53 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: FC12, X86_64 Doing a yum update I get this Error message. There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: No module named cElementTree Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jun 4 2010, 18:28:58) [GCC 4.4.3 20100127 (Red Hat 4.4.3-4)] If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to the yum faq at: http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/Faq And I did a locate cElementTree , and; /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.py /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyc /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyo I'm working from a Single User Mode, And the Computer is crashed and I want to Upgrade to to FC13 but yum is causing problems. I do have the network up in Single user mode. Perhaps your python installation got corrupted??? Assuming your current python version is: 2.6.2-8 Do this: cd /tmp wget -c -ndH http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/12/x86_64/python-2.6.2-8.fc12.x86_64.rpm yum -y install ./python-2.6.2-8.fc12.x86_64.rpm and then retry yum -y update If it is an older version, they you will have to search for it. Oooops! You are in single user mode. Well, now that you know how to bring up the network manually, init 5 and after the desktop comes up login, and if necessary, bring up the net manually (if it did not stay up after doing init 5), and then run sudo yum -y update If that fails with the same reason, you will have to bring up your browser to find the right version. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines