Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

2010-08-13 Thread Ed Greshko
 On 08/13/2010 01:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
 I mused at the time, what it would feel like for el spammero,
 to check the archive, and see that there was no outrage,
 just a bending of his will to ours (somewhat!).

However, I feel you've chosen your spammer target unwisely.  The
particular person whose spam you responded to seems to have some
serious mental health issues.  As a layman, it seems to me that he
suffers, in part, from some sort of paranoia.  (A bit of research will
show that he feels his neighbors are out to get him..)  I am sure that
in his mind his message to this list, and other lists, is a sincere cry
for help and he would want folks to consider his contributions to
linux and not dismiss him.

It is good to see that there was no outrage.  Yet, this person will
probably not be checking the archives since he was unsubscribed,
informed of his transgression, and other measure taken to (hopefully) to
prevent additional similar postings.

Even if he does check the archives I would doubt that the will bending
would have any impact what so ever.  Certainly no positive affect.

 Very interesting it turned out at the same time.

I enjoy the occasional, brief, wholly OT discussion from time to time. 
Sometimes they become protracted as  physicist wannabees, lawyer
wannabees, astronomer wannabees, etc. feel the need to express their
knowledge.  At those times I wonder if the Fedora lists would be well
served to have what OpenSUSE has.  When these things pop up...and start
to get expansivefolks are pointed to the special OT list where
anyone interested can continue to enjoy the topic.

All I know is this (and all I care to know) 

If it is 35C outside and I walk barefoot on the blacktop my feet get
burned.  If I walk barefoot on white sand beach at BaiShaWan my feet get
burned.

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Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

2010-08-13 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 22:40 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
 A really clear explanation of the basic physics would require an
 extensive journey through lots of non-trivial material, and there is
 no way you can explain to a ninth-grader things that puzzled the
 world's best physicists at the beginning of the Twentieth Century.

An argument I often used to make about school...  We were expected to
grasp, in half an hour, what some theorist had spent their lifetime
working out.  Not only that, but often from an incompetent teacher.

I clearly recall upsetting our advanced maths teacher, one day, when I
told him that I could see absolutely no point to what we were doing,
that lesson.  ;-)  I still don't.  Other things we learnt, yes, but not
that.

I don't mind a bit of time wasting when it's entertaining, or otherwise
interesting.  But not on something that we're supposed to slog our guts
out to learn, and having our grades depend on it.

 If I have succeeded in making just one person productively curious, I
 think the off-topic bandwidth is justified.

Oh I didn't mind the interesting information, and various other
interesting diversions that we have from time to time.  My comment was
more to do with the waste of effort trying to build the ultimate cool
computer, for insignificant gain, compared to just building an ordinary
cool computer.  ;-)

Buy the one that looks good, feels sturdy, fits all your bits, can power
them well, and has good ventilation.

As far as my experience goes, any dark-cased electronics get hotter
(temperature-wise) than the ones in pale casings.  They absorb more heat
from everything, and raise the internal temperature much more.  You get
the same thing with cars.  Yes, black may well be more thermally
conductive, but probably not in the direction that you want it to.

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Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

2010-08-13 Thread Tim
Tim:
 At any rate, it's unusual to use the case as the heatsink, unless
 you're buying one of those expensive silent PCs.  It's the fans that
 do the heat dissipation.

g:
 if you do not want to cremate the cpu, be sure you have a fan or two.

Some don't have any, nor need any.  They use heatpipes to shift the heat
from the CPU, to massive heatsinks (the whole side of the case, with
thick metal) that can absorb a lot of heat.

The usual tiny CPU heatsinks aren't the world's best radiators.  They do
need fan forced cooling, at least since about the 386 era.  And, even
with it, they're not always that brilliant.  Put your fingers on some of
them, and they're still painfully hot, despite a fan whizzing its heart
out.  And they're very susceptible to mechanical failure, and clogging
with dust.

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Re: Low sound Volume

2010-08-13 Thread Luan Pham


On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:32 +0200, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote:
 You need to give some more information on which sound system you are
 using and which desktop. Did you check the audio settings of your
 desktop? What does alsamixer tell you? 

I am using F13 i686 version.  Here is my PC spec:

MB ASUS M3A78-CM with AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core and 4 MB.  

So far I had check every thing a push volume up to maximum, and volume
still really low.

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Re: how do I get openoffice

2010-08-13 Thread A. Racca
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 00:27 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.
 
 yum provides openoffice
 reveals nothing.
 yum provides *openoffice*
 buries me in output.
 I usually get the same effect whenever I want
 to install a package whose name I do not know.

Did you think about using 'search' instead of 'provides'?

Another useful tool: man yum :)

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Re: security

2010-08-13 Thread roland
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:39:49 +0200, kalinix  
calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:44 +0200, roland wrote:

 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:31:04 +0200, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
 wrote:

  On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:40 +0200, roland wrote:
  I would like to give someone a login on my server.
  But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
 
  With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this
  person could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected.
 
  Unless you get slack with permissions, they can't read files owned by
  someone else unless those files have read permission for other  
 users.
  Likewise, regarding writing to them.  No ordinary user can change  
 system
  or application files, only their own files.
 
  And, as far as restricting them, that may depend on what you mean by
  logon to your system.  You're sharing out a drive, directories, or
  actually allowing a direct logon where they can run things.
 
 Someone who will install a website on the server. So I thought to give  
 him
 a login and config apache to read the dir in his home dir.
 He has to upload the files for this site. So I won't him to see only his
 home dir.

 So actually he will not run something, just install.


 chrooted ssh.

 http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted_ssh_howto_debian

 It's for debian, but it works ok on fedora too. You don't necessarily
 need to download patched openssh, as now the openssh fedora ships
 supports chroot out of the box.

I looked it op for Fedora and CentOS, and it is available as well.

If this works, that would be great.
Will try it this afternoon.

I thank you very much.


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Re: security

2010-08-13 Thread roland

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:30:58 +0200, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au  
wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:44 +0200, roland wrote:
 Someone who will install a website on the server. So I thought to give
 him a login and config apache to read the dir in his home dir.
 He has to upload the files for this site. So I won't him to see only
 his home dir.

 So, if someone else is going to install the serving software, they'll
 only need to be able to upload files to their workspace, not needing
 full access to the computer.  Though they might, to configure the
 server.  It depends on whether you provide them with an interface for
 that, or direct access.

 Moderately risky, more so if you let them install scripts, even more so
 if it can send emails.  But not too hard to secure something like that.
 You want to learn what the common exploits are, so you can understand
 securing it, and competently test that you've succeeded.

 Lots of web hosts around the planet do something similar.  Run Apache on
 some Linux or Unix, give their customers FTP access (or another file
 transfer scheme) to upload their pages, and use something like CPanel to
 let them customise their use of the webserver.


Of course, if one cannot restrict the access, FTP will be still insecure.
So first I will try what 'Kalinix' said, and install chroot.

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Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi,

I don't know whether somebody tried the following:

I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
button, firefox begins to loop.

Somebody has seen this?

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I don't know whether somebody tried the following:
 
 I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
 so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
 the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
 concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
 button, firefox begins to loop.
 
 Somebody has seen this?

Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
displaying a combobox.
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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I don't know whether somebody tried the following:

 I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
 so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
 the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
 concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
 button, firefox begins to loop.

 Somebody has seen this?
 
 Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
 triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
 displaying a combobox.

I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows
that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13
and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue?

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote:

 On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I don't know whether somebody tried the following:
 
  I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
  so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
  the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
  concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
  button, firefox begins to loop.
 
  Somebody has seen this?
  
  Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
  triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
  displaying a combobox.
 
 I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows
 that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13
 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue?

No. Java isn't used.

It works fine here with F13, btw.
Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps?
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F13 x64 Dolphin Details displays double-spaced

2010-08-13 Thread Mick M.
Hi;
  I just started to get some folders displaying as double-spaced in dolphin.
I always use 'details' as default mode.

I have no idea how this happened, it is only on some folders.
I can see no difference in these folders from others that display fine.

Dolphin - help - about dolphin = version 1.4 using KDE 4.45

The system is fully updated as of just before this post.

thanks

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote:
 
 On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't know whether somebody tried the following:

 I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
 so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
 the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
 concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
 button, firefox begins to loop.

 Somebody has seen this?

 Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
 triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
 displaying a combobox.

 I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows
 that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13
 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue?
 
 No. Java isn't used.
 
 It works fine here with F13, btw.
 Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps?

Does not help :-(

Additionally, the same issue with a fresh installed opera.


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Re: security

2010-08-13 Thread kalinix
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:25 +0200, roland wrote:


 Of course, if one cannot restrict the access, FTP will be still insecure.
 So first I will try what 'Kalinix' said, and install chroot.
 
 Thanks to you and all the others for your time.
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As a matter of fact, vsftpd can be also chrooted.


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Re: how do I get openoffice

2010-08-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 On 08/13/2010 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.

 yum provides openoffice
 reveals nothing.
 yum provides *openoffice*
 buries me in output.
 I usually get the same effect whenever I want
 to install a package whose name I do not know.

The simplest method is:

# yum install @office

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote:
 
 On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't know whether somebody tried the following:

 I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
 so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
 the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
 concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
 button, firefox begins to loop.

 Somebody has seen this?

 Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
 triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
 displaying a combobox.

 I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows
 that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13
 and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue?
 
 No. Java isn't used.
 
 It works fine here with F13, btw.
 Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps?

I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the
component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my
2x1.86 Ghz intel box).

Kind regards

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Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread kalinix
Today I saw a very weird behavior when mount samba shares.
On F11, I used to mount samba shares with the following command:

mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER

Then I was prompted for a password. This way, my password was never
printed on the screen.
Now on F13, when I tried the same scenario, I got an error message: 

share mount is write-protected, mounting read-only
could not mount share in write protected mode.

After I googled around, I found that, in order to solve the problem, i
have also to pass the password as an option to mount, like:

mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o
username=USER,passwd=PASSWORD

Only thing is, by doing this the password will show up in 'mount'
output:

//sambaserver/share on /local/mountpoint type cifs
(rw,user=USER,passwd=PASSWORD)

and is not visible to me only, but to any user on that system that runs
mount command.

Does anyone knows how to avoid this?


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Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread nux
kalinix writes:

 Today I saw a very weird behavior when mount samba shares.
 On F11, I used to mount samba shares with the following command:
 
 mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o username=USER
 
 Then I was prompted for a password. This way, my password was never
 printed on the screen.
 Now on F13, when I tried the same scenario, I got an error message: 
 
 share mount is write-protected, mounting read-only
 could not mount share in write protected mode.
 
 After I googled around, I found that, in order to solve the problem, i
 have also to pass the password as an option to mount, like:
 
 mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o
 username=USER,passwd=PASSWORD
 
 Only thing is, by doing this the password will show up in 'mount'
 output:
 
 //sambaserver/share on /local/mountpoint type cifs
 (rw,user=USER,passwd=PASSWORD)
 
 and is not visible to me only, but to any user on that system that runs
 mount command.
 
 Does anyone knows how to avoid this?

Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable or via a 
credentials file. man mount.cifs

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Cacti doesn't run on F13 ?

2010-08-13 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
  Hi,

I've a F13 / PHP 5.3.2 and latest version of cacti.

When I want to install cacti, I've the following error in httpd log :

PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted 
(tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in 
/var/www/html/cacti/lib/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 833


Any idea ?

BR
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[Way way OT] Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

2010-08-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday, August 13, 2010 06:42:29 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
 Interestingly, the physicist Planck derived that emission spectrum
 from purely classical considerations of systems of harmonic
 oscillators.  I'm afraid I don't recall the derivation, but it has the
 curious property that it explains a fundamentally quantum mechanical
 phenomenon without the use of any quantum mechanics in the derivation.
  Purely classical!

It isn't purely classical. It has the assumption that energy is emitted in 
discrete amounts, ie. is quantized, rather than being emitted in a 
continuous (arbitrary) amounts. That was the crucial ingredient in the 
derivation.

Of course, at that time quantum mechanics was not yet formulated, so the 
derivation was heuristic in nature (rather than being a straightforward 
consequence of quantum mechanics). But it was definitely not purely classical.
 
 Planck's Constant h is found in the function that describes that
 spectrum, and can be calculated from that derivation.

By calculated from that derivation I guess you mean its value determined 
from that function and some experimental data. There is no theory that could 
predict the value of h, nor should there be any such theory.
 
 Now here is where it gets really bizarre: h bar divided by two is the
 spin of the electron!  That is, when we say that electrons are spin
 one-half particles, we mean that their angular momentum is h bar
 divided by two.  Spin one particles like photons have an angular
 momentum of one h bar.

The presence of Planck's constant in the magnitude of angular momenta is 
immaterial. It is purely a consequence of the fact that we are used to 
measurement units of everyday life scales (meter, second, kilogram), which are 
obviously not so well adapted to atomic and particle scales.

What is really bizarre is the fact that the spin of an electron is half-
integer. One needs to rotate an electron by full two circles (720 degrees, 
or 4\pi radians) to get it back to its initial position. Of course, for an 
elementary particle the idea of classical rotation doesn't make much sense. 
But there is *no* classical body around us with such geometric properties, 
which is why we are so adapted to think that 360 degree turn always brings us 
back to initial position. And that is why electron spin is so bizarre. :-)
 
Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread kalinix
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0100, n...@li.nux.ro wrote:

 Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable

not feasible, as PASSWD env var is already used.
And anyway, by using it I have the same error:

[ca...@calin ~]$ sudo mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o
username=USER
mount: block device //sambaserver/share is write-protected, mounting
read-only
mount: cannot mount block device //sambaserver/share read-only

 or via a 
 credentials file. man mount.cifs
 
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Now this becomes weirder:


[ca...@calin ~]$ man mount.cifs
No manual entry for mount.cifs

[ca...@calin ~]$ yum search mount.cifs
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security
Warning: No matches found for: mount.cifs
No Matches found

man mount:

Mount options for cifs
   See  the  options  section  of the mount.cifs(8) man page
(samba-client package
   must be installed).

[ca...@calin ~]$ yum list samba-client
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security
Installed Packages
samba-client.x86_643.5.4-62.fc13
@updates


Any ideea where I could find that man for mount.cifs? :)


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Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread Eugene Jansen van Rensburg
1.  create a file anyware containing your credentials (I used
/etc/.smbcreds) mybe use a place that only you can access
Formate it like this
username=yourusername
password=yourpassword

2.  run the mount command like this
mount -t cifs //server_ip/share /yourmountpoint/ -o
credentials=/etc/.smbcreds

I use this on fedora 13 with no problems and no password in the mount
command output

hope it helps


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:07, kalinix calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0100, n...@li.nux.ro wrote:

  Yes, provide the password via PASSWD environment variable

 not feasible, as PASSWD env var is already used.
 And anyway, by using it I have the same error:

 [ca...@calin ~]$ sudo mount //sambaserver/share /local/mountpoint -o
 username=USER
 mount: block device //sambaserver/share is write-protected, mounting
 read-only
 mount: cannot mount block device //sambaserver/share read-only

  or via a
  credentials file. man mount.cifs
 
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 Now this becomes weirder:


 [ca...@calin ~]$ man mount.cifs
 No manual entry for mount.cifs

 [ca...@calin ~]$ yum search mount.cifs
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security
 Warning: No matches found for: mount.cifs
 No Matches found

 man mount:

 Mount options for cifs
   See  the  options  section  of the mount.cifs(8) man page
 (samba-client package
   must be installed).

 [ca...@calin ~]$ yum list samba-client
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves, security
 Installed Packages
 samba-client.x86_643.5.4-62.fc13
 @updates


 Any ideea where I could find that man for mount.cifs? :)


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Re: Low sound Volume

2010-08-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:16 -0400, Luan Pham wrote: 
 I am currently install and using Fedora 13. I just realize sound volume
 in Fedora is low.  After do an intensive search for this problem, and I
 had learn this had been a going on problem since Fedora release 10.  So
 how I make sound volume in Fedora 13 more louder.
 
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Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find

2010-08-13 Thread Vincent
 From: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find

 Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote:
 On 08/08/2010 12:32 PM, Vincent wrote:
Hello,
I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it
didn't mount.
Here is what I did:
# mkdir /mnt/floppy
   
# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt/floppy
mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
   
I look in the dev directory the fd0 does not exist.
I will appreciate help
and thank you in advace
Vinny
   
   try modprobe floppy first.
   
  did, no change.
  
  oops.. My apology I recall the previous entry that I was try different
  dir etc I correct to dev and every thing works fine.
  thank you very much.
  vinny
  
 I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to
 run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still
 can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double clicking the
 icon. The message appears unable to mount location no media in the
 drive. By the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also
 try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line.
 
 You can try to access the drive by typing in:
 
 cd /mnt/floppy (that is where is shows up on my system)
 
 and then
 
 ls
 
 This should list all of the files readable on the drive.
 
 
 Any idea what else I could be doing wrong?
 
 Don't know.  Not many folks use floppy disks anymore.
 
 You did state that the disks are read/writable under Windows, correct?
 
 I'll verify that my disk drive works this evening as I still have one or two 
 around and a computer with a micro-floppy drive.
 
 James McKenzie
 
I try $ cd /mnt/floppy 
$ ls
it didn't show any files. I have 2 computer both behaving the same.

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Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find

2010-08-13 Thread Vincent
 Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
 On 08/12/2010 02:00 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote:
  Hello,
  I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it
  didn't mount.
  Here is what I did:
  # mkdir /mnt/floppy
 
  # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt/floppy
  mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
 
  I look in the dev directory the fd0 does not exist.
  I will appreciate help
  and thank you in advace
  Vinny
 
  try modprobe floppy first.
 
  did, no change.
 
  oops.. My apology I recall the previous entry that I was try different
  dir etc I correct to dev and every thing works fine.
  thank you very much.
  vinny
 
  I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to
  run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still
  can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double click the
  icon the message appears unable to mount location no media in the
  drive , by the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also
  try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line.
  Any idea what else I could be doing wrong?
 
 I had that problem because I did not have the floppy drive connected
 when I did the install.  As a result, anaconda did not create the
 /etc/modprobe.d/floppy-pnp.conf file:
 
  $ cat floppy-pnp.conf
  alias pnp:dPNP0700 floppy
  alias acpi:PNP0700: floppy
 
 With that file in place, my floppy drive gets recognized at boot time
 just fine.
I do not have those files is there way to make them?

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Re: how do I get openoffice

2010-08-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday, August 13, 2010 08:42:53 am Michael Hennebry did opine:

 Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.
 
 yum provides openoffice
 reveals nothing.
 yum provides *openoffice*
 buries me in output.
 I usually get the same effect whenever I want
 to install a package whose name I do not know.

That is because OOo is indeed many packages, and with the dependencies I 
have no idea if its possible to install just one function.  Generally, its 
all or none, and will probably need the latest Sun/Oracle JRE kit too.

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Re: how do I get openoffice

2010-08-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 00:27 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.
 
 yum provides openoffice
 reveals nothing.
 yum provides *openoffice*
 buries me in output.
 I usually get the same effect whenever I want
 to install a package whose name I do not know.
In gewneral the command wshould be:
yum provides */prograqm name

In this case ther is no program called openoffice. It is called:
openoffice.org


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[SOLVED] Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread kalinix
Actually, I discovered that I don't have cifs-utils package installed.
Now it works as it supposed to: prompting for a password at the console.



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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion is
 not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?

 For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called
 ListAvailable so I tried this:

 # yum list available  Listtab

 and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand
 it.

 Is this expected?

Yes.  If you have installed the bash-completion package, then yum
provides an expanded set of completions for its commands.  The
list of completions for yum list available [tab] are going to come
from the repositories, not from the local files in your working
directory.

If you had a file names ListAvailable in your working dir, what would
you want 'yum list available ListAvailable' to do?  Per the yum man
page, the syntax for the command is:

yum list available [glob_exp1] [...]

Having it expand a local file makes little sense to me.

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:57:48PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
 On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:09 +0200, Joachim wrote:
  
  On 08/13/10 11:32, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:44 +0200, Joachim wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I don't know whether somebody tried the following:
 
  I wanted to change the component in some bugzilla bug by using firefox,
  so I opened the bug on the bugzilla page and pressed the edit button in
  the component line (at the top of the bugzilla window) to modify the
  concerned component. But immediately after having pressed the edit
  button, firefox begins to loop.
 
  Somebody has seen this?
 
  Dunno what you mean with begins to loop. Clicking the edit link
  triggers reloading the list of components from the server prior to
  displaying a combobox.
 
  I have a 2 proc box, and if I press this button, the top command shows
  that 1 proc is fully running with firefox (or opera). I did this in F13
  and F14 alpha, with the same results. Maybe a JAVA issue?
  
  No. Java isn't used.
  
  It works fine here with F13, btw.
  Have you tried yet whether emptying your Firefox cache helps?
 
 I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the
 component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my
 2x1.86 Ghz intel box).

This is a known issue, because the component list is very long and
(IIRC) is loaded with a JS.  I don't know whether the BZ 3.6 update
coming this weekend will help with this issue.

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Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets firefox loop

2010-08-13 Thread James Mckenzie
Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Aug 13, 2010 6:55 AM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Bugzilla problem: trying to edit the concerned component lets 
firefox loop

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:57:48PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
 On 08/13/10 11:57, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  
 I was a bit impatient: I had to wait for more than 1 min, until the
 component pulldown menu appeared. I think this is too long (even on my
 2x1.86 Ghz intel box).

This is a known issue, because the component list is very long and
(IIRC) is loaded with a JS.  I don't know whether the BZ 3.6 update
coming this weekend will help with this issue.

Poor design if it is pulling the entire component list for Fedora down at one 
time.  Makes things VERY slow.  Javascript or no javascript, it is still going 
to be slow and over a dial-up connection painfully so.

(And I know about poor design for pull down lists, I deal with it on a daily 
basis...)

James McKenzie

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Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:32 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
 What does the DVD/CD media check exactly if booting a Fedora DVD/CD?
 Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media check, because it could be
 done after having burned the DVD?

You can, but you might strike this problem:  The disc checks out fine on
one drive, but reads badly on another.

So a check checks the disc on that drive, and you may wish to check it
reads fine when you use it on another PC.  Or you may be happy to forgo
re-checking it.


 If not, is it possible to perform this media check immediately after
 having burned the DVD (means: can I start the media check from that
 freshly burned DVD?)
 
Some burning software already does checksum the burnt disc against the
master, immediately after burning the disc.  I think Brasero does that,
I'm sure others do, too.

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Re: how do I get openoffice

2010-08-13 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Michael Hennebry
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote:
 Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.

 yum provides openoffice
 reveals nothing.
 yum provides *openoffice*
 buries me in output.
 I usually get the same effect whenever I want
 to install a package whose name I do not know.

# yum groupinstall Office/Productivity

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Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup

2010-08-13 Thread Rich Megginson
Reinhard Nappert wrote:
 Rich,

 I did some additional tests regarding replicationIds.

 Let's say, I just have two MM A -- B. I start configuring the replica and 
 agreement on A and assign id 1. Then I do the same for B with the id 2. 
 Everything is fine. Then, I disable on both boxes the replication. Then, I 
 start setting the same thing up, but I start with B and assign 1 as id. A 
 gets 2 as id assigned. Now, the replication fails with the message: Unable 
 to acquire replica: error: duplicate replica ID detected

 I am pretty sure that it has to do with the RUV entry 
 nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix, because 
 it still shows:

 dn: nsuniqueid=---, dc=your,dc=suffix
 objectClass: top
 objectClass: nsTombstone
 objectClass: extensibleobject
 nsds50ruv: {replicageneration} 4c6445e40001
 nsds50ruv: {replica 1 ldap://A:389}
 nsds50ruv: {replica 2 ldap://B:389}
 nsruvReplicaLastModified: {replica 1 ldap://A:389} 
 nsruvReplicaLastModified: {replica 2 ldap://B:389} 

 My replica configuration objects use the correct ids (1 for B) and (2 for A).
 All this said, I believe the server should internally delete the RUV entry, 
 once the replica configuration object is deleted.
   
Ok.  Please file a bug.
 -Reinhard

 -Original Message-
 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
 [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Reinhard 
 Nappert
 Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
 Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup

 One more question:
 Can I read/modify the  
 nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix object, 
 without being logged in as Directory Manager. If so, what kind of aci's 
 need I to set?

 Thanks,
 -Reinhard

 -Original Message-
 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
 [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich Megginson
 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:41 PM
 To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
 Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup

 Reinhard Nappert wrote:
   
 Actually I tried this.

 First, I just deleted the attributes  nsds50ruv, which was fine, from an 
 ldap operational point of view, but when I wanted to set replication up 
 again, the server complained with an operation error (nds50ruv attribute 
 missing).
 
 Right, you cannot just delete the attribute, you have to delete the entire 
 entry.
   
 Then I though I just delete the entire entry 
 (nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix).
 This crashes the ldap server!

 Why does it not help, if I don't get rid of it? Since the info stays in 
 there, even after replication was disabled, I can not use this entry in 
 order to determine whether the server was already initialized, when I enable 
 replication for a second time.

 I think, I found a solution to this by using some objects from my internal 
 framework.

 However, the ldap server should not crash, when I try to delete this
 entry

 
 I think we fixed that crashing bug a while ago.  Can you post a stack trace?
   
 -Reinhard

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 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
 [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich
 Megginson
 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:44 PM
 To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
 Subject: Re: [389-users] Multi-Master setup

 Reinhard Nappert wrote:

 
 Thanks Rich.

 When does the server delete the RUV entry?
 After I set the server back to standalone, by removing the changelog 
 entry, all agreements and the replica entry, I still see the RUV entry:
 ldapsearch -D Directory Manager -w password -b dc=your,dc=suffix
 -x -LLL ((nsuniqueid=*)(objectclass=nsTombstone)) nsds50ruv
 dn: nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix
 nsds50ruv: {replicageneration} 4c61bf2e0001
 nsds50ruv: {replica 7 ldap://yale:389}
 nsds50ruv: {replica 6 ldap://mustrum:389}
 nsds50ruv: {replica 1 ldap://louise:389} 4c62a60c0001
 4c62a60c0001
 nsds50ruv: {replica 4 ldap://nix:389} 4c61c1720004
 4c62c59c0004
 nsds50ruv: {replica 3 ldap://yale:389} 4c62a5c50003
 4c62a5f10003
 nsds50ruv: {replica 2 ldap://mustrum:389}
 nsds50ruv: {replica 8 ldap://nix:389} 4c62d0290008
 4c62efcc0008
 nsds50ruv: {replica 5 ldap://louise:389} 4c62d1b90005
 4c62d1b90005

 I would expect that this would have been deleted by the server.

   
 No, but you should be able to manually delete it.  It doesn't do anything if 
 you're using replication.

 
 If not, this appraoch does not help.


   
 Why?

 
 -Reinhard

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 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
 [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rich
 

Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said:
 You can also run sha256sum /dev/cdrom and compare the result with the 
 published checksums.

IIRC, you can in some cases get the wrong value with that due to padding
(but it has been a while since I tried that, so that may not be a
problem now).  If you are looking at the master or mirror directory, you
could use dd to only read the right number of bytes from the disk and
pipe the output to sha256sum.

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Re: kqemu - useful?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
 On 08/11/2010 11:09 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
On a machine with hardware virtual support, currently using qemu-kvm
 for VMs, is there a use for kqemu at all? And is it still useful to
 improve support on machines which lack hardware virtual, such as p4 and
 similar?

 
 I was a former user of qemu/kqemu before the merge of QEMU/KVM in F11, 
 according to bug #520284 [1] the upstream said that kqemu is unmaintainable.
 
Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have the 
latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not 
worth supporting.

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520284
 
 HTH
 
Helps greatly. The hardware we got three years ago which ran fine up through 
FC9 
and which was specified particularly to run Linux now has had xen, kqemu, and 
older Radeon support removed by the time we got to FC13.

Fedora is cutting edge, replace the distro every six months, obviously replace 
the hardware at that time, too. Time to go in another direction.

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Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/13/10 10:32, Joachim Backes wrote:
 Hi,
 
 having the following question: What does the DVD/CD media check exactly
 if booting a Fedora DVD/CD? Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media
 check, because it could be done after having burned the DVD?
 
 If not, is it possible to perform this media check immediately after
 having burned the DVD (means: can I start the media check from that
 freshly burned DVD?)
 
 Proposal: If not, it would be nice if the media checker would be placed
 on the DVD for running in normal mode after the DVD has burned - perhaps
 allowing to check both an i386 and x86_64 install DVD.
 
 Kind regards
 
 

Hi,

Thanks to all who answered to my question: I think, checkisomd5 will be
the right tool for me (I have only 1 DVD device, so DVD-burner and
DVD-reader are the same).

Kind regards

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Re: Fedora 13 Samba weirdness

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Eugene Jansen van Rensburg wrote:
 1.  create a file anyware containing your credentials (I used 
 /etc/.smbcreds) mybe use a place that only you can access
 Formate it like this
 username=yourusername
 password=yourpassword
 
 2.  run the mount command like this
 mount -t cifs //server_ip/share /yourmountpoint/ -o 
 credentials=/etc/.smbcreds
 
 I use this on fedora 13 with no problems and no password in the mount 
 command output
 
 hope it helps
   
Vastly, I haven't had the problem but I now have a pointer in my tips file, so 
when someone asks I can look smart. ;-)

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Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:00:24 -0400,
  Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote:
 I loose the floppy Icon every time I reboot. To get it back I need to
 run modprobe floppy, this may not be too much of problem, but I still
 can't access the diskette when I try to access it by double click the
 icon the message appears unable to mount location no media in the
 drive , by the way the diskette and floppy are OK with windows I also
 try few other diskette. I do not know how to access from command line.
 Any idea what else I could be doing wrong?

This is due to a decision the kernel team made to balance easy floppy use
for old hardware and broken bios that cause long delays when checking
for floppy drives that aren't there. Kyle had an idea how to make something
that would be better in most cases, but I don't think he has had a chance to
implement it yet.

More background is in:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565693
The email thread beginning with:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2010-April/002394.html

Putting the modprobe floppy in rc.local I think will work as a work around.
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Re: kqemu - useful?

2010-08-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

 Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have 
 the 
 latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not 
 worth supporting

Actually,  it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained
codebase. 

Rahul
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Login excursion disables keyboard

2010-08-13 Thread jack craig
Hi Folks,

Can anyone else verify the defect i seem to see?

my netbook is running fc12. after a recent install, i  noted a yellow 
warning icon on the main login screen.

i clicked on that to see what was the issue.

upon return to the login screen, i find the CR no longer works (mouse 
click does).

anyone else?

tia, jackc...

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/12/2010 06:45 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 07:16 PM, JD wrote:
   
   On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 
 Normally does not search the current directory - it searches you
 executable search path for an executable starting with List.
   
 Not exactly. If your executable search path includes . (dot)
 then if you have an executable file in .  and it's name starts
 with the string preceding the tab, then it will be completed
 with that  filename.
 If there are other files in your search PATH wthat also start
 with that string, they will be listed as well.

 
 Thats why I said normally - the default executable does not include
 . - you have to add it. There are a lot of users that here will tell
 you it is a bad idea to include it. If you do include it, then it is
 a good idea to put it at the end of the search path.

 Mikkel
   
Right.  I don't intend to include '.' in the exec path.

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/12/2010 06:20 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
   
 Yes, that was how I discovered this anomaly - it was not expanding
 for some reason.  I was trying to figure it out... what broke sort of
 thing...  and it seemed to happen after an update, but maybe it is not
 related...
 
 I'm not able to reproduce this condition on Fedora 13 patched current
 as of last night.  The behavior you're describing is not expected, no.

   
Ok, thanks for the info on F13!

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Re: security

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com writes:
 You may also want to consider setting his shell to rbash. See the
 RESTRICTED SHELL section of the bash man page.
 
 Treat rbash as a fun puzzle, not as a security measure.  They did block
  redirects and ./doit file execution, but that is far from enough.
 With a few minutes pondering this solution popped up.
 
 emacs doit
 insert  bash -i without the quotes
 . doit
 instant non-restricted shell
 

rbash isn't that insecure, it has its own PATH, and I can't imagine putting 
anything other than the minimum tools needed in it. In the past I have made a 
/usr/rbin directory and hard linked only the things absolutely needed.

It is not an optimal top security solution, but it's not quite as bad as you 
imply unless it's set up to be. It is quite useful for keeping newbies from 
hurting themselves. ;-)

See other post for related replies.

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Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL

2010-08-13 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 12:53 +0200, Christoph A. wrote:

 you might want to have a look at my thread flash-plugin-10.1.82.76
 not working within SELinux sandbox although you do not have problems
 relating SELinux.

I read that thread, Christoph.  I had searched the list for the plugin
before posting.  A cursory google search didn't bring anything new up,
either.  I'm going to try google again later to see if anything new has
come up, though.

 If you have a 64bit system, the following command may help:
 cp /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins

I'm running 32-bit here.  I know, it's not exactly ideal to do so on a 4
x 64-bit CPU but performance isn't a major concern at this time.

 let me know if that fixed the issue for you. 

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned in my original post, I was
primarily ranting against Adobe there.   :-)

Joe

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Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Christoph A. wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 06:03 AM, Joe Klemmer wrote:
 Upon upgrading to flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 flash movies no longer play.
 I get either nothing or a black box.  Regular flash components don't
 work either.

 I know we're using flash at our own risk but, until everything moves to
 whateverthenextlatestandgreatest will be, we're stuck with it.  If I
 remember right this happened before and I fixed it by going back to the
 version 9 plugin.  Now I have to go hunt the darn thing down again.

 This message is more about blowing off steam but if someone does know
 how to get the 10.1 plugin to work it would be a nice bit of news.
 
 Hi Joe,
 
 you might want to have a look at my thread flash-plugin-10.1.82.76  not
 working within SELinux sandbox although you do not have problems
 relating SELinux.
 
 If you have a 64bit system, the following command may help:
 cp /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
 
Where did you get a 64bit plugin? There are separate 32 and 64 bit compiles of 
previous versions, did Adobe finally give us a 64 or can Firefox somehow run 
the 
32 bit object?

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Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL

2010-08-13 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 12:25 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

 Where did you get a 64bit plugin? There are separate 32 and 64 bit
 compiles of previous versions, did Adobe finally give us a 64 or can
 Firefox somehow run the 32 bit object? 

I'm pretty sure all he's doing is linking the 32-bit plugin into the
lib64 directory.  Doing so fakes out firefox so things work.  More or
less.

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
 I'm not able to reproduce this condition on Fedora 13 patched
   
 current
 
 as of last night.  The behavior you're describing is not expected,
   
 no.
 
   
   
 Ok, thanks for the info on F13!
 
 I can reproduce this behaviour exactly. I have the bash-completion
 package installed. Do you?

 poc

   
Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again.
Does not work for me for some reason...

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[389-users] Replication from Fedora DS to OpenLDAP

2010-08-13 Thread Wes Rogers
I've been doing some investigation for getting replication between DS
and OL working.

According to http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:OpenldapIntegration
it is possible but not documented.

After reading this
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/389-users/2007-September/006162.html
it is obviously doable but my question is this :

Has anyone accomplished this in a working fashion?  And if so, are you
willing to share with the list or off list directly to me your
experience?

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Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Bob Goodwin


Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT?

More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much
given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like
to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a
clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a
lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to
repair damage but no step by step stuff.

It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds
but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only
when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy
confidence ...

This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't
think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding
information elsewhere.

Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions.

Bob


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:24 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
 
 Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT?
 
 More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much
 given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like
 to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a
 clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a
 lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to
 repair damage but no step by step stuff.
 
 It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds
 but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only
 when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy
 confidence ...
 
 This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't
 think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding
 information elsewhere.
 
 Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions.

has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...

yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
remember correctly)

Craig


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Terry Polzin
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:24 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  
  Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT?
  
  More specifically on a Netgear WNDR 3300 router. I've pretty much
  given up hope of getting any use out of that router but I would like
  to try the alternate software but I am having trouble finding a
  clear and concise explanation of what needs to be done. There are a
  lot of cautions warning me of the possibility of doing difficult to
  repair damage but no step by step stuff.
  
  It cautions to do a hard reset, a process that takes 90 seconds
  but does it need to be done before the initial installation or only
  when updating to new versions? Things like that tend to destroy
  confidence ...
  
  This is all related to my F-13 system and it's operation so I don't
  think it's completely off topic and I have not had success finding
  information elsewhere.
  
  Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions.
 
 has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...
 
 yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
 remember correctly)
 
 Craig
 
 
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http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:24:25 -0400,
  Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone here have experience installing DD-WRT?

It's been a while (I use OpenWRT for new stuff), but I just followed the
instructions on their web pages. It involved using tftp and worked well.

 Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions.

If you think you might want to do any customization of the firmware (not just
the settings), than OpenWRT might be a better choice. I have done OpenWRT
trunk builds on Fedora and it works pretty nice.
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Re: F13 - flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 not working AT ALL

2010-08-13 Thread James Mckenzie
Joe Klemmer klemm...@webtrek.com wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  As I mentioned in my original post, I was
primarily ranting against Adobe there.   :-)

Rather than rant against Adobe, rant against the web designers that don't use 
standard files because they are LAZY and 'don't know how to do it that way'.

Of course, Flash gives you 'real content'.  I dont't think so, but it is a real 
good way to waste bandwidth.

James McKenzie

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
  On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...

 yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
 remember correctly)

 Craig


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 Have you looked here?

 http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300


Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset.
What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does 
it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those 
are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for 
someone who has done this.

Bob

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Seann

Bob Goodwin wrote:

  On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote:
  

On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:


has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...

yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
remember correctly)

Craig


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Have you looked here?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300




Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset.
What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does 
it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those 
are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for 
someone who has done this.


Bob

  
A Hard Reset on a wireless router on DD-WRT means you just cleared 
your NVRAM settings. Not what is flashed to the CMOS, but what 
configurations persist on reboot, IE your settings and IP's and 
everything, which is then set back to default, usually 192.168.100.1 or 
some such setup. You need to make sure you are wired directly to the 
router and you will need to change your IP to match the default of the 
router if you have customized it.



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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Um, look closely:

 # yum list available  Listtab

 There is an output redirect, that is, the '' character before the
 ListTab

 This should have worked... right?

Indeed, I missed that important detail in your output.  Sorry for
confusing the issue.  That does look like a potential bug (or
mis-feature ;) in bash-completion on F12.

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
  On 13/08/10 14:56, Seann wrote:
 Bob Goodwin wrote:
   On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...

 yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
 remember correctly)

 Craig


 -- 

 Have you looked here?

 http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300


 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset.
 What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. 
 does it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being 
 reset. Those are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was 
 looking for someone who has done this.

 Bob

 A Hard Reset on a wireless router on DD-WRT means you just cleared 
 your NVRAM settings. Not what is flashed to the CMOS, but what 
 configurations persist on reboot, IE your settings and IP's and 
 everything, which is then set back to default, usually 192.168.100.1 
 or some such setup. You need to make sure you are wired directly to 
 the router and you will need to change your IP to match the default of 
 the router if you have customized it.


 ~Seann

Ok, that is reassuring. Right now I am suffering from information 
overload again.

Also OpenWrt appears to have a better set of instructions [for someone 
who doesn't know what he's doing] if I can ever figure out what software 
I need to download. I'm working at it, will muddle through somehow.

Thanks to all.

Bob

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HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  Fc12, X86_64

While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP 
192.168.1.1 Router .

Eth0 is not available in this application.
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Fri August 13 2010, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   On 13/08/10 14:41, Terry Polzin wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:
  has nothing whatsoever to do with Fedora but...
  
  yes, do a hard reset before installing DD-WRT (and after I think if I
  remember correctly)
  
  Craig
  
  Have you looked here?
  
  http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3300
 
 Yes, that is one of the articles mentioning the hard reset.
 What happens after I do that, will I lose contact via the browser. does
 it wipe out the router address, I don't know what is being reset. Those
 are the kinds of things that bother me, That's why I was looking for
 someone who has done this.
 
The Hard Reset resets the router back to the factory default settings. 
I've never done it on that router, but on the Linksys routers I've flashed, 
I have NOT had to hard reset it before upgrading. Only after the initial 
install. Also, on some Linksys routers, you had to install the mini 
version first as the router would choke on the full install, but after 
installing the mini DD-WRT you can proceed to install the full size 
version. Keep in mind this may only apply to Linksys routers. I don't know 
a thing about the Netgear.
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Re: Selinux beating up on Chromium

2010-08-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On 06/17/2010 04:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Thursday, June 17, 2010 21:00:41 Jim wrote:

 FC13/KDE

 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
 /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/chrome-sandbox net_raw access . For
 complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l
 68797c25-9748-4ab8-b020-f63a80f543a7

I just came back from a holiday and had the new
google-chrome-beta-6.0.472.33-55501.i386 in an F12 box, and I find
that as soon as I start up chrome I am getting what seems to the the
same avc:

Summary:

SELinux is preventing /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox net_raw access .

Detailed Description:

[chrome-sandbox has a permissive type (chrome_sandbox_t). This access was not
denied.]

SELinux denied access requested by chrome-sandbox. It is not expected that this
access is required by chrome-sandbox and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Please file a bug
report.

Additional Information:

Source Contextunconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c
  0.c1023
Target Contextunconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c
  0.c1023
Target ObjectsNone [ capability ]
Sourcechrome-sandbox
Source Path   /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox
Port  Unknown
Host  home1.mdc.sapience.com
Source RPM Packages   google-chrome-beta-6.0.472.33-55501
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.32-118.fc12
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name   catchall
Host Name xxx.xxx.xxx.com
Platform  Linux xxx.xxx.xxx.com
  2.6.32.16-150.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Jul 24
  05:25:42 UTC 2010 i686 i686
Alert Count   3
First SeenFri 13 Aug 2010 07:50:31 PM BST
Last Seen Fri 13 Aug 2010 09:16:47 PM BST
Local ID  81e1f781-9dbd-4dbf-926b-b6334a67aac6
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

node=xxx.xxx.xxx.com type=AVC msg=audit(1281730607.936:35598): avc:
denied  { net_raw } for  pid=32256 comm=chrome-sandbox capability=13
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tclass=capability

node=xxx.xxx.xxx.com type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1281730607.936:35598):
arch=4003 syscall=120 success=yes exit=32257 a0=60020011 a1=0 a2=0
a3=0 items=0 ppid=32252 pid=32256 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=0
suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=76
comm=chrome-sandbox exe=/opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:chrome_sandbox_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
key=(null)

Has anyone found a solution yet?

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Martin Airs
Hi there,

Go into your desktop of choice, and right click on the network manager 
icon, then edit connections and edit the wireless connection you want 
available in runlevel 3

then tick the box to make available to all users

then when you go into runlevel 3 that connection will still be connected 
in runlevel 3


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On 08/13/2010 08:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
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Re: kqemu - useful?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have 
 the 
 latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not 
 worth supporting
 
 Actually,  it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained
 codebase. 
 
I think we are saying almost the same thing. The codebase is poorly maintained 
because the people working on the drivers are not spending time testing changes 
to see if they break old cards. I assume the developers have the latest because 
(a) they are adding features using the 3D features, and (b) if they were using 
the 2-3 year old cards they wouldn't be developing anything, because they would 
be running in text or VESA mode.

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Re: kqemu - useful?

2010-08-13 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  On 08/13/2010 09:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Given that RPMfusion still offers it, I would say that the developers have 
 the
 latest hardware and the budget that implies, and regard two years old as not
 worth supporting

 Actually,  it has nothing to do with that but a poorly maintained
 codebase.

 I think we are saying almost the same thing. The codebase is poorly maintained
 because the people working on the drivers are not spending time testing 
 changes
 to see if they break old cards. I assume the developers have the latest 
 because
 (a) they are adding features using the 3D features, and (b) if they were using
 the 2-3 year old cards they wouldn't be developing anything, because they 
 would
 be running in text or VESA mode.

I think you may be confusing your frustrations over kqemu and nouveau
with each other..

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
 On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
 
   On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
   
 Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
 is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?

 For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called ListAvailable
 so I tried this:

 # yum list available  Listtab

 and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand it.

 Is this expected?


 
 
 In your .bashrc

 set complete-file ^I^I
 (that's Control-I twice)
   
   
 I tried it (logged out and back in) and it does not
 change anything.  Same behaviour.

 It is interesting there are different behaviours:

 # LTab
 LabPlot   LibraryLocal
 # cd DeskTab  (expanded to Desktop, so it worked)
 # LTab
 LabPlot   LibraryLocal
 # ListTab (Beeps everytime a Tab is hit, but no list is given)


 
 Dumb question - is there a file List or Listsomething in the
 current directory? From what you describe, it does not sound like
 there is...

 As for running ListTab, do you have a command List or
 Listsomething in your path?

 Mikkel
   
 Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in
 the Desktop
 directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there.  It
 seems
 that bash-completion does not work on local files that are known to be
 there,
 and I tried it on links, and directories (except for Desktop which it
 did expand)
 UNLESS it is prefixed with certain commands in front of it, such as:
 
 # cd ~/Desktop
 # ls ListTab
 ListAvailable
 
 So it worked.
 
 But these fails:
 # ListTab
 # ./ListTab
 # yum list available  ListTab
 
The first one fails because you don't have the current directory in your PATH 
(and shouldn't, it's vastly safer to type ./ when you mean it).

The second fails because the file isn't executable, so it's not a command.

The third fails because ListAvailable is not a normal writable file (I don't 
have a guess what it is, though). Enter ls -ld List* and it will (probably) 
tell you something useful.

If you are expecting files in the Desktop directory to be commands, that's 
not 
normally the case.

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 
   
 Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again.
 Does not work for me for some reason...
 
Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is 
ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere.

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Re: Vesa Drivers - fedora instalation

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
David A. Paredes Rios wrote:
 Hello guys, i have a doubt, there is anyway to install fedora with vesa 
 drivers or generic video drivers as default?
 Because i have some problems installing my fedora, after install, i have 
 video problems, then someone give me a command or something to install 
 with default vesa drivers, and it  works fine, anyone knows how to do it?
 
The last time I looked, there was Install a system with basic video drivers 
which I believe is what you want.

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
service wpa_supplicant start
wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
then
service network start

That's it.
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 01:56 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 Hi there,

 Go into your desktop of choice, and right click on the network manager
 icon, then edit connections and edit the wireless connection you want
 available in runlevel 3

 then tick the box to make available to all users

 then when you go into runlevel 3 that connection will still be connected
 in runlevel 3


 Martin Airs
 http://www.airs.me.uk

Hi Martin,
the OP said single user mode,
so there is no desktop.
I have already responded to him
with exactly I do when in single user mode
and need wireless internet in that mode.

 On 08/13/2010 08:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:30 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  I can reproduce this behaviour exactly. I have the bash-completion
  package installed. Do you?
 
  poc
 

 Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again.
 Does not work for me for some reason...

Why do you say it doesn't work? The examples you've given so far are not
bugs (or rather you haven't given enough detail to say that they *are*
bugs).

rant
Unfortunately bash-completion is *very* poorly documented. There's no
info file or man page and the online site is not at all informative. The
info file on bash itself only documents the basic completion functions
but not how the bash-comnpletion package uses them. The devels seem to
think that one should just know how it works because to a large extent
it copies some of the functionality of other shells such as zsh. Or you
can read the config files. This is hardly acceptable IMHO.
/rant

The upshot is that while your first two examples (completion of the
first word on the line) are clear and are almost certainly not bugs, the
third example (redirecting stdout) is mysterious and seems to depend on
which specific command you're typing. I asked you to check what happens
with ls  fooTab but you don't seem to have replied so far. IOW this
may or may not be a bug, but without a clear description of what
*should* happen it's hard to tell.

poc

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 Fc12, X86_64
 
  While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
  192.168.1.1 Router .
 
  Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start
 
 That's it.

Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
lead to headaches down the road.

poc

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/13/2010 02:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
 On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
 Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again.
 Does not work for me for some reason...
 
 Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is 
 ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere.
   
Ok, tried it.  It does not do anything at all.

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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/13/2010 02:15 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
 On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 
 On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
   
 On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
 
 
   On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   
   
   
 Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
 is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?

 For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called ListAvailable
 so I tried this:

 # yum list available  Listtab

 and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and to expand it.

 Is this expected?


 
 
 
 In your .bashrc

 set complete-file ^I^I
 (that's Control-I twice)
   
   
   
 I tried it (logged out and back in) and it does not
 change anything.  Same behaviour.

 It is interesting there are different behaviours:

 # LTab
 LabPlot   LibraryLocal
 # cd DeskTab  (expanded to Desktop, so it worked)
 # LTab
 LabPlot   LibraryLocal
 # ListTab (Beeps everytime a Tab is hit, but no list is given)


 
 
 Dumb question - is there a file List or Listsomething in the
 current directory? From what you describe, it does not sound like
 there is...

 As for running ListTab, do you have a command List or
 Listsomething in your path?

 Mikkel
   
   
 Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in
 the Desktop
 directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there.  It
 seems
 that bash-completion does not work on local files that are known to be
 there,
 and I tried it on links, and directories (except for Desktop which it
 did expand)
 UNLESS it is prefixed with certain commands in front of it, such as:

 # cd ~/Desktop
 # ls ListTab
 ListAvailable

 So it worked.

 But these fails:
 # ListTab
 # ./ListTab
 # yum list available  ListTab
 
 The first one fails because you don't have the current directory in your PATH 
 (and shouldn't, it's vastly safer to type ./ when you mean it).

 The second fails because the file isn't executable, so it's not a command.

 The third fails because ListAvailable is not a normal writable file (I don't 
 have a guess what it is, though). Enter ls -ld List* and it will (probably) 
 tell you something useful.
   
ListAvailable is a writable text file:
$ ls -ld List*
-rw-rw-r--. 1 ME ME 920208 2010-08-12 14:00 ListAvailable

 If you are expecting files in the Desktop directory to be commands, that's 
 not 
 normally the case.
   

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
     Fc12, X86_64
 
  While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
  192.168.1.1 Router .
 
  Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start

 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.

I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?!

wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway.
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 03:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start

 That's it.
 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.

 poc

No it is not.
As  the OP states - he is in single user mode!!
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
     Fc12, X86_64
 
  While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
  192.168.1.1 Router .
 
  Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start

 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.

 I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?!

 wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway.

Forgot:
ifconfig wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 essid essid key s:asciikey
dhclient wlan0
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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 03:14 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 02:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 On 08/13/2010 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 08:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 Yes, I have it installed on F12 and reinstalled it again.
 Does not work for me for some reason...

 Just in case you have redefined TAB in some way, the escape for completion is
 ESC-\ (escape backslash), try that. But I think the problem is elsewhere.

 Ok, tried it.  It does not do anything at all.

Completion is user defined.
If you define it as Esc, then it is escape.
If you define it as TabTab then that's what it is.
Be careful is your shell also uses vi mode for command line editing.

For example:
I use ksh.
in my .profile,

set -o vi

allows me to bring up command history with
Esc\pattern
which lists the neares command in the history.
Now if I press Esc then v
i will enter vi edit screen to do extensive changes to the command,

In such a case, you do not want Esc to be your filename completion 
character.

Otherwise, Esc is a valid choice for filename completion.


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Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes:
 Yes  I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can
 do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19]
 MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in
 a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the
 road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major
 worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan.
 
 Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi.  To
 be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and
 highly talented kid living next door.

I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, 
thankfully.


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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 pocallag...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start
 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.
 I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?!

 wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway.
Back that up with a how to then!!
Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver
to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver.
Unless the OP has specified a different driver in
/etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant.



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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:38 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 pocallag...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
     Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start
 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.
 I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?!

 wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway.
 Back that up with a how to then!!
 Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver
 to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver.
 Unless the OP has specified a different driver in
 /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant.

wpa_supplicant is for wpa - as its name imples
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Mikkel
On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a 
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network 
 available in runlevel 3.
 
But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

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Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Mikkel
On 08/13/2010 05:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes:
 Yes  I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can
 do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19]
 MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in
 a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the
 road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major
 worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan.

 Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi.  To
 be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and
 highly talented kid living next door.
 
 I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, 
 thankfully.
 
 
These days, WEP is a way of saying that it is not an open network,
not a security measure. It keeps honest people out, at least most of
the time...

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Martin Airs
oops ok, sorry

peace out

Martin Airs
http://www.airs.me.uk

On 08/13/2010 11:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.


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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 03:30 PM, Tom H wrote:
 ifconfig wlan0 up
 iwconfig wlan0 essidessid  key s:asciikey
 dhclient wlan0
Are you so sure??


sudo ifconfig ra0 up
sudo iwconfig ra0 essid MYEssID key 
s:SomeLongText..
sudo dhclient ra0
Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) :
 SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument.



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Re: F12: bash-completion issues?

2010-08-13 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/13/2010 03:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 ls  fooTab
Oh, sorry - there was a LOT to read! :/

I tried what you asked:

$ ls  ListTab

... and it expanded to ListAvailable (or was it ListInstalled)

Anyway,  it worked.

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Re: F-13 qnw wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bob Goodwin wrote:
 
 This is a current updated f-13 computer connected to our home LAN. I
 have been using a Buffalo Airstation WLI-TX4-AG300N, essentially an
 Ethernet wireless adapter to access the system. I recently bought a
 Netgear WNDR330 dual band N wireless router and am having a lot of
 trouble getting it to perform as advertised. This is a less than 20
 year old typical two story frame house. I would expect the walls to
 be essentially transparent to RF energy.
 
 Normally the distance between the router and the wireless adapter is
 less than forty feet and there has been no problem operating in the
 2.4 gHz band however I find that with equipment located as it has
 been for several years the new router will not function at that
 distance in the 5 gHz band. In fact to get any connection at all I
 have to reduce the distance to about ten feet which pretty well
 negates the advantage of a wireless system. I decided several years
 ago that running cables in this house is out of the question.
 

 Does anyone have experience with a similar system? I would be
 interested to know if my observations are typical or if I have an
 equipment problem. I am considering obtaining a different wireless
 adapter device to replace the Buffalo unit since it is the only
 thing unchanged here.
 
 Any suggestions or observations will be appreciated. I feel,like I
 am operating in a vacuum with no one to consult.
 

When Wireless-n was approved I bought a cheap Rosewill AP from Newegg and a USB 
dongle, and a PCI USB card so I could learn ad hoc networks. I am in an 1895 
three story Victorian house, my computer room is on the 2nd floor. I bought 
this 
equipment because it was cheap and I could return it. Haven't yet.

I work all over the house, on the porch, in the back yard, it's all good. My 
usual workplace is a recliner in the library, in front of the TV. Get 100Mb or 
so, not bonding, little of what I do needs speed, but dead reliable.

I hope this is similar enough to be useful.

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 08/13/2010 03:30 PM, Tom H wrote:
 ifconfig wlan0 up
 iwconfig wlan0 essidessid  key s:asciikey
 dhclient wlan0
 Are you so sure??

 sudo ifconfig ra0 up
 sudo iwconfig ra0 essid MYEssID key
 s:SomeLongText...
 sudo dhclient ra0
 Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) :
     SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument.

I've use this in the past with wep access points.
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 03:41 PM, Tom H wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:38 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:
   On 08/13/2010 03:24 PM, Tom H wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 pocallag...@gmail.comwrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:42 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
  Fc12, X86_64

 While in Single User mode, how do I start wlan0 to connect to a WEP
 192.168.1.1 Router .

 Eth0 is not available in this application.
 service wpa_supplicant start
 wait a few minutes for the wpa supplicant to sync up with router
 then
 service network start
 Wonderful. Now one responder told him to use NetworkManager and you've
 just told him to use something incompatible with NM. Unless there's
 clear evidence that NM is causing him problems, this is only going to
 lead to headaches down the road.
 I missed the use NM email. Does NM work in single-user mode?!

 wpa_supplicant isn't needed to wep anyway.
 Back that up with a how to then!!
 Usually it is wpa_supplicant which will drive the usual wext driver
 to communicate with the underlying wifi chipset driver.
 Unless the OP has specified a different driver in
 /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant.
 wpa_supplicant is for wpa - as its name imples
Again - not so in this neck of the woods.

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me 
a IP .

iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064   works , but it didn't like  
's' so I let it out .  The key is a Hex key.

iwlist wlan0 key,  shows a key
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  On 08/13/2010 08:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

 ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me
 a IP .

 iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064   works , but it didn't like
 's' so I let it out .  The key is a Hex key.

 iwlist wlan0 key,  shows a key
Now it is Connected, but it sure took a long to connect.

I was watching the DHCP connection in Router and after about 10 minutes 
it connected.

The ;


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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  On 08/13/2010 08:13 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
  On 08/13/2010 08:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

 ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me
 a IP .

 iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064   works , but it didn't like
 's' so I let it out .  The key is a Hex key.

 iwlist wlan0 key,  shows a key
 Now it is Connected, but it sure took a long to connect.

 I was watching the DHCP connection in Router and after about 10 
 minutes it connected.

 The ;


The;

ifconfig wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 dd-wrt key 9856231080 (hex Key)
dhclient wlan0

Did the job


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Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes:
 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes:
 Yes  I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can
 do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19]
 MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in
 a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the distance to the
 road is about 200 meters, I don't think LAN security is a major
 worry. I can't detect any other systems when I scan.
 
 Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi.  To
 be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and
 highly talented kid living next door.

 I live across the street from a college. My security is better than theirs, 
 thankfully.

Reminds me of the joke about the two hikers preparing for a bear
encounter.  One hiker is removing his hiking boots and putting on
sneakers.  The other points out how useless this is because you can't
outrun a bear.  The first retorts, I don't have to outrun the bear I
only have to outrun you.  In the same vein, you don't need great
security, you just need something better than the school next door. ;-)

Personally, I still believe in WPA2-only with CCMP-only and hex
passwords pulled from /dev/random.  It's not that much more work to set
up that way and give the attackers something very substantial to chew
on.

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 05:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

 ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me
 a IP .

 iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064   works , but it didn't like
 's' so I let it out .  The key is a Hex key.

 iwlist wlan0 key,  shows a key
I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless.
In short: it NEVER worked.
So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine.

ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up


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Yum update , Went Bad

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  FC12, X86_64

Doing a yum update I get this Error message.

There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

No module named cElementTree

Please install a package which provides this module, or
verify that the module is installed correctly.

It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
current version of Python, which is:
2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jun  4 2010, 18:28:58)
[GCC 4.4.3 20100127 (Red Hat 4.4.3-4)]

If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to
the yum faq at:
   http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/Faq


And I did a locate cElementTree , and;

/usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.py
/usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyc
/usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyo


I'm working from a Single User Mode, And the Computer is crashed and I 
want to Upgrade to to FC13 but yum is causing problems.

I do have the network up in Single user mode.
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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread Mikkel
On 08/13/2010 07:50 PM, JD wrote:
 I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless.
 In short: it NEVER worked.
 So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine.
 
 ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up
 
One thing I have run into with WEP is that depending on the settings
of the access point, you may have to add the restricted option to
the key. This set the security mode.

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Re: HowTo , Connecting wlan0 when in Single user mode

2010-08-13 Thread binarynut
  On 08/13/2010 08:50 PM, JD wrote:
On 08/13/2010 05:00 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 06:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:
 On 08/13/2010 05:40 PM, Martin Airs wrote:
 sorry, one assumes that the OP is actually capable of going into a
 desktop just to tick the box, just to make the wireless network
 available in runlevel 3.

 But the OP wants it in runlevel 1.

 ifconfig wlan0 is showing the wlan0,but dhclient wlan0 is not giving me
 a IP .

 iwconfig wlan0 essid dd-wrt key 8956231064   works , but it didn't like
 's' so I let it out .  The key is a Hex key.

 iwlist wlan0 key,  shows a key
 I have had continuous problems with dhcp over wireless.
 In short: it NEVER worked.
 So, I assign a static IP and it works just fine.

 ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.254 netmask 0xff00 up


I think the problem is dhclient took so long to get a connection.

I was just sitting and watching the Router and after about ten minutes I 
saw the IP pop up on router for my Wireless Connection.

And it is staying connected after one hour in Single User Mode.
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Re: Yum update , Went Bad

2010-08-13 Thread JD
  On 08/13/2010 05:53 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote:
FC12, X86_64

 Doing a yum update I get this Error message.

 There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
 required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

  No module named cElementTree

 Please install a package which provides this module, or
 verify that the module is installed correctly.

 It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
 current version of Python, which is:
 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jun  4 2010, 18:28:58)
 [GCC 4.4.3 20100127 (Red Hat 4.4.3-4)]

 If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to
 the yum faq at:
 http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/Faq


 And I did a locate cElementTree , and;

 /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.py
 /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyc
 /usr/lib64/python2.6/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyo


 I'm working from a Single User Mode, And the Computer is crashed and I
 want to Upgrade to to FC13 but yum is causing problems.

 I do have the network up in Single user mode.
Perhaps your python installation got corrupted???

Assuming your current python version is: 2.6.2-8

Do this:

cd /tmp
wget -c -ndH 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/12/x86_64/python-2.6.2-8.fc12.x86_64.rpm

yum -y install ./python-2.6.2-8.fc12.x86_64.rpm

and then retry yum -y update

If it is an older version, they you will have to search for it.
Oooops! You are in single user mode.
Well, now that you know how to bring up the network
manually,
init 5
and after the desktop comes up login,
and if necessary, bring up the net manually
(if it did not stay up after doing init 5),
and then run

sudo yum -y update

If that fails with the same reason, you will have
to bring up your browser to find the right version.


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