Fwd: [Fedora-trans-ru] Выпуск Fedora 15

[Misha Shnurapet]

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F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

[Freak Trick]

Hi,



I have been using F15 Beta for almost a month now. I currently have 512MB RAM 
and I must say, it has been working fairly normal (in fact the experience) was 
better then when XP was on the same machine. I was a bit surprised to know that 
installing F15 Final requires a minimum of 640MB RAM and what was more 
surprising that the installation will not proceed. Moreover, F15 Final running 
from the Live CD was working quite usual and there was little impact on 
performance, of course, besides the typical Live CD performance constraints.

I was just curious why was this (blocking of installation) done on the F15 
Final Release and more so why is it not allowing the installation instead of, 
lets say, giving some kind of warning and proceeding. I was also wondering if 
there is some way around it?

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dovecot IMAP server doesn't work after Fedora 14 reinstall

[M. Fioretti]

Greetings,

I have a computer on which I ran Fedora 14 x86_64 and dovecot to keep a
local imap copy of all my email, in maildir format. One week ago the hard
disk broke, so I bought a new one, reinstalled Fedora 14 x86_64 with all
the updates and copied all my maildirs back to the disk from backups.

I had ran yum update just a few days before the crash, so the dovecot
version and package is the same or almost the same. Since the reinstall,
however, I've been unable use dovecot to access those maildirs. All the
details and error messages are in this post I immediately sent to the
dovecot mailing list, so I won't repeat them here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg38562.html

since I've got no help yet there, and since there may be some reason (see
next phrase) external to dovecot, I'm trying here. As far as I can tell,
the only difference between this and the previous install _may_ be the
file system. This time I let the installer go with ext4. I honestly don't
remember what kind of file system was being used on the crashed disk, but
it may have been ext3.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!!!

TIA,
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Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/28/2011 11:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> OK, thanks. I haven't got as far as trying the USB stuff as I can't even
> run my VM, but if USB doesn't work it's no use to me. I only run VB when
> I want to update my iPhone.

FWIW I did file this to their bugtracker 
http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/8980


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Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> I haven't touched my home directory where the VM is kept, so any light
>> on this would be welcome.
>>
> No info on your particular error.  I don't see your issue on my Win2K,
> and Vista guest.  However, USBs don't work in any of my guests.  So, I'm
> not confident in the quality of Oracle's release for F15.
>
> FWIW, I've put up my query on their forum and looked to see if anyone
> posted about yours...nothing found.

OK, thanks. I haven't got as far as trying the USB stuff as I can't even 
run my VM, but if USB doesn't work it's no use to me. I only run VB when 
I want to update my iPhone.

poc

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Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I haven't touched my home directory where the VM is kept, so any light
> on this would be welcome.
>
No info on your particular error.  I don't see your issue on my Win2K, 
and Vista guest.  However, USBs don't work in any of my guests.  So, I'm 
not confident in the quality of Oracle's release for F15.

FWIW, I've put up my query on their forum and looked to see if anyone 
posted about yours...nothing found.

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Re: 'delete' doesn't not delete file in nautilus on FC15 gnome3?

[H Xu]

On 05/28/2011 10:17 AM, Bryce Hardy wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM, H Xu  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using FC15 but it seems that 'delete' key on keyboard doesn't move
>> selected files to trash. Does anyone else meet this problem? Thanks.
>
> It's now Control-Delete.

Thanks.
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VirtualBox problem in F15

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

I reinstalled VB in my (fully updated) F15, using the x86_66 RPM from 
the VB Downloads page. However when trying to start a saved Windows VM, 
I get this:

Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Win7.
pdmblkcache#0: The VM is missing a block device. Please make sure the 
source and target VMs have compatible storage configurations [ver=1 
pass=final] (VERR_SSM_LOAD_CONFIG_MISMATCH).

Result Code:
NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
Component:
Console
Interface:
IConsole {515e8e8d-f932-4d8e-9f32-79a52aead882}

I haven't touched my home directory where the VM is kept, so any light 
on this would be welcome.

poc
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Re: 'delete' doesn't not delete file in nautilus on FC15 gnome3?

[Bryce Hardy]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM, H Xu  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm using FC15 but it seems that 'delete' key on keyboard doesn't move
> selected files to trash. Does anyone else meet this problem? Thanks.

It's now Control-Delete.
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'delete' doesn't not delete file in nautilus on FC15 gnome3?

[H Xu]

Hello,

I'm using FC15 but it seems that 'delete' key on keyboard doesn't move 
selected files to trash. Does anyone else meet this problem? Thanks.

Regards,
H Xu
05/28/2011
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Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/28/2011 08:55 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> Anyone else seeing this?  Is it related to this bugzilla?
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690292
>>
>> A mount after book works just fine
> I think it may be this one:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008
>
> Anyway, you are not alone. I finally just stuck some
> scripts in rc.local to keep trying to mount everything
> in a backgrounded loop till it actually gets mounted.

Thanks  I think you've found the correct bugzilla.  I too have done 
some rc.local hacking to get it to work.  Wonder why these sorts of 
things aren't noted in the release notes as "known bugs".  Oh, well
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Re: Speakers don't Mute when headphones are plugged in (Speakers & Headphones at the same time) :S

[Manuel Escudero]

2011/5/26 Manuel Escudero 

>
>
> 2011/5/26 Tim 
>
>> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:49 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>> > it doesn't matter wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't
>> > mute one or another and my headphones and speakers sound at the same
>> > time,
>>
>> I recall, on one sound card, going through the preference available in
>> the volume controls, and finding a "detect headphones" switch.  When
>> enabled, that sound card would notice when headphones were plugged in.
>>
>> That was on a (much) older Fedora release, but it's probably still
>> something to look for.
>>
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>
> @Tim: Yep, Older releases had more configuration tools
> and options about sound, now it's kinda "universal" stuff,
> it has been like that since F12 I believe... in F11 we still had
> the "system-sound-configuration" tool or something like that,
> not anymore in F12,
>
> Also the wierd integration of ALSA + Pulseaudio makes the
> sound "harder to configure in an expert mode" because we don't
> have the right files in the right folders, we don't even have "alsaconf"!
> (And don't get me wrong here, The "universal alsa+pulseaudio mashup"
> works for almost every computer I tried, but not in mine and it hasn't
> over the months), the thing is, in F14 I was able stop my problem with
> a simple click in "Pavucontrol" and now I can't...
>
> Look, I don't want the 5.1 Ch HD Audio the computer can deliver,
> I'm happy with the only two I'm getting But please, please! I need separate
> headphones and speakers :)
>
> Yesterday I was asking on IRC at #fedora and they only told me to "Google
> it"
> and "File a Bug", I've been googling it for almost 2 years and I never got
> a better solution than the pavucontrol one, but it doesn't work anymore...
>
> Any Suggestions? Thank You.
>
>
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>

No one? well, I filed a Bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708557

Hope someone can help
me, thanks!

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Re: system-config-network, F-15

[john wendel]

On 05/27/2011 09:52 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>  I ran "system-config-network" and set up manually leaving dhcp
>  unchecked. Is that all I have to or do I still need to disable
>  Network Manager somewhere?
>
>  Bob
>
>  --
>

In my (currently unhappy) F15 experience, NM doesn't pay attention the 
the "system-config-network" settings. You need to use the NM applet 
(which crashed for me). I finally did "chkconfig NetworkManager off" and 
"chkconfig network on", edited the config files by hand, and now have 
network working.

Good Luck

John

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Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

[Tom Horsley]

> Anyone else seeing this?  Is it related to this bugzilla?  
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690292
> 
> A mount after book works just fine

I think it may be this one:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008

Anyway, you are not alone. I finally just stuck some
scripts in rc.local to keep trying to mount everything
in a backgrounded loop till it actually gets mounted.
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Re: Mounting cifs

[JD]

On 05/27/11 16:59, Tim wrote:
> Their all-in-one service is, most likely, aimed at the average computer
> illiterate person who has one or two computers, doesn't really do
> anything special with them, is used to general Windows crappiness, and
> will also put up with the same crappiness in other gear, because they
> don't know any better.  Technology, on a whole, seems to be going in
> that direction
You hit the nail on the head. All the owners are concerned
about are the TV shows and email and web. And that's it.
But when it comes to asking me to help with  making the
wifi-capable printer be accessible to all machines, or to
transfer photos from one computer to another, I have to
tell them I must reboot the router, and then, even then, I
have only 20 to 30 minutes of transfer time, after which
the router will clamp down on inter-lan traffic and I have
to start all over again. I explain to them that they must
force the isp to fix it.
So far, no go.

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NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

[Ed Greshko]

It seems that NFS automounts on F15 are broken?

I have the usual bits set in fstab, one of them being

misty:/syntegra /syntegra   nfs4rw  0 0

It doesn't get mounted, and following the advice in the boot.log I see 
the following

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ sudo systemctl status syntegra.mount

syntegra.mount - /syntegra
   Loaded:loaded
   Active:  failed since Sat, 28 May 2011 08:26:48 +0800; 
1min 33s ago
   Where: /syntegra
   What:   misty:/syntegra
   Process:   995 ExecMount=/bin/mount /syntegra (code=exited, 
status=32)
   CGroup:name=systemd:/system/syntegra.mount

Anyone else seeing this?  Is it related to this bugzilla?  
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690292

A mount after book works just fine



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Re: local IMAP server

[Timothy Murphy]

Tim wrote:

> Fetchmail can run as a daemon, all by itself.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Will this work OK if I'm collecting mail from several sites?
At present I've set the cron scripts to run at different times.

I think I occasionally get error messages that fetchmail
has failed to collect mail from one site
because it is still collecting from another site?

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Re: Mounting cifs

[Tim]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 08:19 -0700, JD wrote:
> Obviously you have not used at&t uverse service :)

No...  Wrong country

> Without THEIR modem nothing works. Uverse is a
> package: TV, Internet, Phone services. Decryption
> of the TV signal occurs in the modem, and is then
> sent out the same cable on a different frequency,
> which is then picked up by each TV's at&t' STB.
> The modem just has piggybacked into it the WIFI
> and ethernet card.

Sounds like you're stuck, then.  I've never been keen on these bundled
things, as they tend to be jack of all trades, master of none.  And you
end up putting up with something that's bad, or separately handling it,
with the multi-device sitting there to taunt you that you still need
several devices, or services, instead of the all-in-one.

Trying to route through some things just plain sucks.  Back in 1998, I
dabbled with using a Windows box as the NAT box between dial-up and the
LAN.  It was dreadful.  Apart from the usual crashes, it was slow, and
often needed restarting.  Changing over to using a Linux computer as the
NAT device made a remarkable difference.  Things were reliable, and
traffic was surprisingly much faster.

You get the same with some hardware.  Some modem/router devices are just
awful.  Sometimes they can be improved by upgrading their firmware, and
sometimes going back to a prior version improves things.

About all you can do is keep hassling your service provider about this,
letting them know that it's got worse, maybe you'll get a different help
desk staff member one day who can actually change something to the
better.

Their all-in-one service is, most likely, aimed at the average computer
illiterate person who has one or two computers, doesn't really do
anything special with them, is used to general Windows crappiness, and
will also put up with the same crappiness in other gear, because they
don't know any better.  Technology, on a whole, seems to be going in
that direction.

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Re: fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/27/2011 03:49 PM, Monty Clift wrote:
> how should i proceed from here?  yum install ???

AIUI, if you want to use the binary blob, follow the same instructions 
you did the first time.  If you want to use kmod, use this:

yum install kmod-nvidia

(You may need to specify PAE or x64 depending on the kernel you're using.)
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Re: local IMAP server

[Tim]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:43 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> 2. I collect email on the server from 5 sites with fetchmail.
> I have entries like /etc/cron.d/fetch.maths on the server
> ---
> 5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * tim /usr/bin/fetchmail -s pop.maths.tcd.ie

Fetchmail can run as a daemon, all by itself.

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Re: A question from the truly dumb?

[William Case]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 11:44 -0400, nathan forbes wrote:
> 
> On May 27, 2011 11:34 AM, "William Case"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > More and more I have noticed the use of a double colon [::]in coding
> > explanations but have not noticed it actually used anywhere.  Does
> it
> > mean anything other than being used as a format.
> >
> > For example, in a recent repo description:
> >
> >perl-DateTime-Format-Natural
> >Description :
> >DateTime::Format::Natural takes a string with a human
> readable
> >date/time and creates a machine readable one by applying
> natural
> >parsing logic.
> >
> > rsync uses the :: in its a man pages.  There it seems to indicate a
> > remote machine, but doesn't seem to be required.
> >
> > Just something I have been meaning to ask for a long time.
> >
> > --
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> > Evo.2.32, Emacs 23.2.1
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> Well Perl and C++ use it as part of their syntax. In your example, the
> module DateTime contains Format which contains Natural. So the full
> name of Natural would be DateTime::Format::Natural.
> 
> And in C++ it's used to display the scope of namespaces and classes,
> and so on. For example if you had something like:
> 
> namespace example {
> class Hello {
> static int myMethod();
> }
> }
> 
> In order to call myMethod() you would do example::Hello::myMethod().
> 
Thanks Nathan.  Have played around with C but never C++ or Perl, so that
explains my ignorance.  Tried checking online.  Google got confused.

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Re: F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?

[KC8LDO]

- Original Message - 
From: "CS DBA" 
To: "KC8LDO" ; "Community support for Fedora users" 

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?


> not sure if it's related, I had lockups in KDE on F14.  Do you have an 
> nvidia card?

No its an ATI HD5770 made by Gigabyte.

> I installed the kmod-nvidia packages via yum, removed the newly created 
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf (x wouldn't start with it in place) and removed the 
> nouveau packages.
>
> I haven't had a single lock up / system freeze since.

I just tried F14. It locked up too after a bit. I think it's hardware. At 
one point I got some funny very thin black vertical lines in one dialog box 
that popped up. Also the splash screen at system boot did the same thing but 
with horizontal lines then went away. The Asus Mobo I have is the P7P55 WS. 
This thing has a billion options to setup in the BIOS. I'm beging to think 
the video card is screwed.

I'm running the mobo's built in utility to see if can find a set of 
parameters that makes the system run stable. I really don't want to over 
clock the system but this is something else to try. I picked the least 
agressive setting I could find.

Regards,

Lee

>
>
>> I just built a new i7-870 box to use with Linux. The F15 installation 
>> went
>> fine. However after using the desktop for some minutes it locked up 
>> tight.
>> Even the mouse quit working. Reinstalled without using the hardware 
>> specific
>> video driver. Seemed to work OK for a while then locked tight when I went 
>> to
>> look at the system utilities menu window.
>>
>> I gave up messing with it and I'm trying F14 now. See how that works. not
>> sure if I have a hardware issue or not.
>>
>> Anybody else had the Gnome 3 desktop lockup on them under F15? If so is
>> there a fix?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lee
>>
>
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Re: Maybe a clue to poorly rendered f15 fonts?

[suvayu ali]

Hi Tom,

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708525
>
> I happened to set a font to a large size in an app, and
> suddenly it appeared to be rendered completely differently.
>
> I did an experiment, which is documented in the above
> bugzilla, and I'm guessing that something is turning
> off hinting too enthusiastically.

I faced the same problem and posted about it to the list[1]. I'll add
myself to the CC-list on that bug report. Hope there is a resolution
soon, apart from this hiccup F15 looks very nice so far.

Footnotes:

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Re: fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot

[Monty Clift]

thanks a lot.  
CTRL-ALT-F3 did bring the login prompt.  i have been using nvidia proprietary 
drivers so i guess this was the problem.how should i proceed from here?  yum 
install ???thanks again,monty

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From: Greg Woods 
Subject: Re: fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 9:12 PM

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 13:24 -0700, Monty Clift wrote:
>  the screen is stuck for more than an hour and the last line written
> was:
> 
> 
> Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon
> and there is a blinking cursor

There are plenty of possibilities, but this could mean that the video
driver did not start. Try hitting CTRL-ALT-F3. If that produces a text
console with a login prompt, then this is your problem.

In particular, if you had been using the nvidia proprietary drivers, you
will need to install it again for your new kernel. 

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Re: Gnome3 and screensaver config

[Steven Stern]

On 05/27/2011 05:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steven Stern
>   wrote:
>> On 05/27/2011 03:45 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how to configure the screensaver in fedora 15 with gnome3?
>>>
>>> i.e. can you select different gnome screensavers and timeout periods?
>>> If not is there a package that can be installed that allows such
>>> selection?
>>>
>>> Maybe I am just thick and don't see the obvious!
>>>
>> There is no screensaver in Gnome 3.  All you can do is turn off the
>> monitor at some interval.
>>
>
> How odd - there is a package installed called gnome-screensaver I
> believe - does it not do anything apart from turn off the screen?
>
> I see that xscreensaver is available too?

gconf-editor shows a mode and theme option, but I have no idea what they 
might be.

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Re: F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/27/2011 03:20 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> Guess I will have to try the proprietary Nvidia drivers, sigh.

Go to fedoraforum.org and follow the instructions for installing and 
using kmod-nvidia instead of using the binary blob from the OEM.  The 
kmod gets updated for every kernel update (although sometimes it takes a 
day or so) and you don't have to re-run the installer for every kernel 
update.  Not only that, the kmod doesn't need hacked versions of some of 
the system files like the blob does.
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Re: F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?

[Alexander Volovics]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 06:04:12PM -0400, KC8LDO wrote:

> I just built a new i7-870 box to use with Linux. The F15 installation went 
> fine. However after using the desktop for some minutes it locked up tight. 
> Even the mouse quit working. Reinstalled without using the hardware specific 
> video driver. Seemed to work OK for a while then locked tight when I went to 
> look at the system utilities menu window.
> 
> I gave up messing with it and I'm trying F14 now. See how that works. not 
> sure if I have a hardware issue or not.
> 
> Anybody else had the Gnome 3 desktop lockup on them under F15? If so is 
> there a fix?

Yes I experienced regular lockups/freezes using Gnome3.
This was due to the nouveau driver. Though having some 3D
capabilities it obviously did not have what it takes to
sustain the Gnome3 shell. (And anyway performance was
very shaky). This was with an Nvidia Geforce 7300 LE.

In Gnome3 fallback mode the problems have disapeared.

Guess I will have to try the proprietary Nvidia drivers, sigh.

Alexander


 
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Re: F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?

[CS DBA]

not sure if it's related, I had lockups in KDE on F14.  Do you have an 
nvidia card?  I installed the kmod-nvidia packages via yum, removed the 
newly created /etc/X11/xorg.conf (x wouldn't start with it in place) and 
removed the nouveau packages.

I haven't had a single lock up / system freeze since.


> I just built a new i7-870 box to use with Linux. The F15 installation went
> fine. However after using the desktop for some minutes it locked up tight.
> Even the mouse quit working. Reinstalled without using the hardware specific
> video driver. Seemed to work OK for a while then locked tight when I went to
> look at the system utilities menu window.
>
> I gave up messing with it and I'm trying F14 now. See how that works. not
> sure if I have a hardware issue or not.
>
> Anybody else had the Gnome 3 desktop lockup on them under F15? If so is
> there a fix?
>
> Regards,
>
> Lee
>


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Maybe a clue to poorly rendered f15 fonts?

[Tom Horsley]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708525

I happened to set a font to a large size in an app, and
suddenly it appeared to be rendered completely differently.

I did an experiment, which is documented in the above
bugzilla, and I'm guessing that something is turning
off hinting too enthusiastically.
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Re: Gnome3 and screensaver config

[mike cloaked]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steven Stern
 wrote:
> On 05/27/2011 03:45 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to configure the screensaver in fedora 15 with gnome3?
>>
>> i.e. can you select different gnome screensavers and timeout periods?
>> If not is there a package that can be installed that allows such
>> selection?
>>
>> Maybe I am just thick and don't see the obvious!
>>
> There is no screensaver in Gnome 3.  All you can do is turn off the
> monitor at some interval.
>

How odd - there is a package installed called gnome-screensaver I
believe - does it not do anything apart from turn off the screen?

I see that xscreensaver is available too?
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F15 Gnome desktop lockups anybody?

[KC8LDO]

I just built a new i7-870 box to use with Linux. The F15 installation went 
fine. However after using the desktop for some minutes it locked up tight. 
Even the mouse quit working. Reinstalled without using the hardware specific 
video driver. Seemed to work OK for a while then locked tight when I went to 
look at the system utilities menu window.

I gave up messing with it and I'm trying F14 now. See how that works. not 
sure if I have a hardware issue or not.

Anybody else had the Gnome 3 desktop lockup on them under F15? If so is 
there a fix?

Regards,

Lee 

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Re: F15 KDE can't find the way to setup wireless

[CS DBA]

click on the NetworkManager icon in the taskbar (near the right edge on 
the bottom of the screen). when not connected it shows as only a dot.  
It should bring up a dialog showing Interfaces and Connections. on the 
bottom left of this dialog there's an "enable wireless" checkbox. Check 
it and you should see wireless networks


> Hello,
> I downloaded F15 KDE live to try, I booted the CD and then decided to
> install in the HD. The installation was flawless, but when I try to
> setup the wireless network I couldn't find. Is there any one that can
> give me some detail direction on how to. I am not familiar with KDE I
> all the way used Gnome in the past, I see few thing that I like on KDE I
> would like to explore some more. Thank you in advance  Vinny
>


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Re: Gnome3 and screensaver config

[Steven Stern]

On 05/27/2011 03:45 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Does anyone know how to configure the screensaver in fedora 15 with gnome3?
>
> i.e. can you select different gnome screensavers and timeout periods?
> If not is there a package that can be installed that allows such
> selection?
>
> Maybe I am just thick and don't see the obvious!
>
There is no screensaver in Gnome 3.  All you can do is turn off the 
monitor at some interval.


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Re: fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot

[Greg Woods]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 13:24 -0700, Monty Clift wrote:
>  the screen is stuck for more than an hour and the last line written
> was:
> 
> 
> Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon
> and there is a blinking cursor

There are plenty of possibilities, but this could mean that the video
driver did not start. Try hitting CTRL-ALT-F3. If that produces a text
console with a login prompt, then this is your problem.

In particular, if you had been using the nvidia proprietary drivers, you
will need to install it again for your new kernel. 

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Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/27/2011 01:56 PM, JD wrote:
> Does the list server notify posters that the message
> could not be delivered to members that are no longer
> member of the list? Or is this an indication that the
> message was simply rejected?
>
 > Final-Recipient: rfc822; users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Neither.  For some reason, the space after the semicolon in the second 
line is vanishing, making the original address invalid.  It's probably a 
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Re: What on earth is mounted?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/28/2011 02:09 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
> What is the sandbox and why do I need/want one?
> Thanks
>  

https://lwn.net/Articles/334737/

http://video.linux.com/video/1565

Rahul
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F15 KDE can't find the way to setup wireless

[Vincent]

Hello,
I downloaded F15 KDE live to try, I booted the CD and then decided to
install in the HD. The installation was flawless, but when I try to
setup the wireless network I couldn't find. Is there any one that can
give me some detail direction on how to. I am not familiar with KDE I
all the way used Gnome in the past, I see few thing that I like on KDE I
would like to explore some more. Thank you in advance  Vinny

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Re: Font help for firefox!

[JD]

On 05/27/11 13:35, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:00:10 -0700
> JD wrote:
>
>> Have you tried to exit FF4 when you have multiple tabs open?
>> What options does it give  you when you exit?
> I think I remember a dialog box where I told it to stop
> asking me the silly question about if it should close multiple tabs,
> but I'm not sure.
>
> The thing that is driving me crazy now is right clicking on
> a link. They have swapped the "Open in new window" and "Open in
> new tab" order in the menu, so my reflexes keep opening
> in new window (which I hate :-).
Thanx fo the heads up re: this "newfangled" FF.
I too hate such changes.

But when I tried FF 4.x, and I exited it, it did not
give me the menu where it asks if yo want to
save and quit, or just quit.
It did not save my tabs, and upon restart it was
like starting a new session.

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Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

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Does the list server notify posters that the message
could not be delivered to members that are no longer
member of the list? Or is this an indication that the
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--- Begin Message ---
On 05/26/11 06:46, Rich wrote:
> Just a shot in the dark, but do you have multiple dhcp daemons running
> on the network.  Your router probably has one running.  I could buy that
> multiple dhcp daemons might cause something like what you describe.

$ ps -ef | grep dhcp
jd   12817  5530  0 07:35 pts/200:00:00 grep dhcp

machines win7 and xp1 are not servers, so no dhcp
services are running on them. All 3 machines have
had static IP's for more than3 years. This problem
is a recent one after AT&T remotely flashed the
modem with new firmware.
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Re: Reverting evolution to Fedora 14

[N James Bridge]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 18:01 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've just upgraded my a couple of my machines to Fedora 15/x86_64 up
> from Fedora 14 x86_64.
> Sadly enough, due to large number of GNOME3 related issues, I'm
> thinking about switching back to Fedora 14.
> 
> Here the problem: When I upgraded my netbook and fired up evolution,
> it automatically upgraded my evolution DB.
> Currently evolution is DOA - as I cannot send any emails without
> crashing it [1].
> So the question is rather simple: Can I somehow export the mail DB
> back to a format that Fedora 14's evolution can read? (Assuming that I
> can recover the DB's, among other thing evolution crashes seemed to
> have corrupted the DB).
> 
> - Gilboa

I have also had a major problem with evolution in Fedora 15. I had made
a backup archive using evolution 2.32.2 in F14. F15 installs evolution
3.0 - and it worked fine until I tried to restore from the archive. That
seemed to work (including converting the database to a maildir format)
but then the program just hung indefinitely when trying to fetch mail.
Curiously, even if I turned off the send/receive function, there was one
folder which would not open, though all the others worked normally. (The
folder contained all the mail from this list!)

I have temporarily reverted to F14, where evolution 2.32 restored from
the archive without a hitch, and am now copying and pasting all the
emails I want saved into text files. Tedious, to say the least. Then I
can go back to F15 and start evolution with a clean sheet.
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Gnome3 and screensaver config

[mike cloaked]

Does anyone know how to configure the screensaver in fedora 15 with gnome3?

i.e. can you select different gnome screensavers and timeout periods?
If not is there a package that can be installed that allows such
selection?

Maybe I am just thick and don't see the obvious!

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Re: What on earth is mounted?

[Javier Perez]

What is the sandbox and why do I need/want one?
Thanks

JP

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote:

>
> Am 25.05.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Michael Cronenworth :
>
> > Tom Horsley wrote:
> >> Where on earth do those /tmp /var/tmp and /home entries come from?
> >> They certainly aren't all mounted on top of the same filesystem root.
> >> There are no entries for them in /etc/fstab. What is going on?
> >
> > systemd has a few hard-coded bind mounts.
> >
> >>
> >> They also all show up with identical free space entries in the
> >> output from the df command.
> >>
> >> This is just wa confusing.
> >
> > You could file an enhancement to hide bind mounts by default.
> >
> >>
> >> Can I make it stop somehow and leave them as ordinary subdirectories
> >> as they have always been?
> >
> > Not unless you go back to upstart as your init daemon.
> > --
>
>
> Most of them are from the sandbox init script  NOT from systemd!!
>
> # chkconfig sandbox off
>
> Then reboot.
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Re: Font help for firefox!

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:00:10 -0700
JD wrote:

> Have you tried to exit FF4 when you have multiple tabs open?
> What options does it give  you when you exit?

I think I remember a dialog box where I told it to stop
asking me the silly question about if it should close multiple tabs,
but I'm not sure.

The thing that is driving me crazy now is right clicking on
a link. They have swapped the "Open in new window" and "Open in
new tab" order in the menu, so my reflexes keep opening
in new window (which I hate :-).
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Re: F15 preupgrade seems not to work with /boot on RAID

[slamp slamp]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:12 AM, George Avrunin  wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 22:12:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman 
> wrote:
>
>> All packages downloaded, but preupgrade reported an error on the console
>> I ran it from regarding the fact that /boot was on a software RAID
>> device.  The GUI, on the other hand, appeared to finish normally and
>> reported that the installation would start on reboot.  It didn't.
>>
>> So is there a reason preupgrade can't work with /boot on RAID when the
>> original (F12, IIRC, upgraded to F14) installation did?  And why doesn't
>> the GUI detect the error and fail?
>>
>
> I'm seeing the same problem--GUI doesn't complain, but doesn't work and
> preupgrade-cli complains. Any suggestions?
>
>  George
>
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i downloaded the dvd, booted to it, and followed the upgrade procedure
there. worked fine, i didn't install grub on my boot device though
since it is already there.
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fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot

[Monty Clift]

hi all,i have just upgraded from f14 to f15 using preupgrade.  i am now still 
waiting for the first boot to finish.  the screen is stuck for more than an 
hour and the last line written was:
Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon.
and there is a blinking cursor.
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Re: Font help for firefox!

[JD]

On 05/27/11 10:33, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I just installed the "Theme Font&  Size Changer" add on for firefox,
> and now I can see my bookmarks again! :-). Firefox 4 seems to work well,
> but the default theme sure makes all the fonts tiny...
Have you tried to exit FF4 when you have multiple tabs open?
What options does it give  you when you exit?
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Font help for firefox!

[Tom Horsley]

I just installed the "Theme Font & Size Changer" add on for firefox,
and now I can see my bookmarks again! :-). Firefox 4 seems to work well,
but the default theme sure makes all the fonts tiny...
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Re: F15 long boot time

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 11:24, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 11:10 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>>
>>  All I added where the lines for NFS and they have been the same
>>  through several versions of Fedora.
>>
>>  If you see any glaring error let me know, otherwise I will live with
>>  it, Normally I only boot once a day and I'm drinking coffee then ...
> Try doing the below command (while already booted up, then reboot after
> it's run) and see if this helps any.
>
> systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service
>
>


This is a fixed, desktop computer, I hope I've turned off
Network Manager.

Bob


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system-config-network, F-15

[Bob Goodwin]

I ran "system-config-network" and set up manually leaving dhcp
unchecked. Is that all I have to or do I still need to disable
Network Manager somewhere?

Bob

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Re: very long boot time in fedora 15

[Ian Malone]

On 27 May 2011 17:36, R. G. Newbury  wrote:
> On 05/26/2011 05:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote
>
>> I'm trying to work out why Fedora 15 takes an incredibly long time to
>> start on this machine (Intel Core 2 Duo T5500, 1GB RAM laptop),
>> booting takes several minutes as opposed to F13. No custom modules,
>> just stock Fedora, intel wireless and graphics, used preupgrade to go
>> F13 to F15. I can try and provide more information, but I'm not sure
>> where to start with this, any ideas? Some things that might be
>> relevant below.
>>
>> dmesg, at the 'gap':
>> [   43.006805] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
>> [   43.010915] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
>> [   43.044360] iwl3945 :06:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9
>> [   43.111086] iwl3945 :06:00.0: Error setting Tx power (-5).
>> [   43.132498] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
>> [  344.645061] RPC: Registered udp transport module.
>> [  344.645066] RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
>> [  344.645069] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module.
>
> It *looks* like it is waiting for the link to become ready.
>
> You could try using the iwlagn module instead of the iwl3945, to see if
> that module reacts better. It is supposed to work with the 3945 chipset
> iirc.
>
> I would then try turning off ALL network services and dependencies of
> those. and timing boot in that condition. Then timing startup of the
> network with the wired NIC only, and then with the wireless NIC only,
> etc. etc.
>
> It *could* be that the delay is some other module which actually depends
> on network services, such as an NFS or samba share etc..
>

Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708207 what's actually
happening is startup is waiting while the wireless attempts to connect
to every NM generated ifcfg-Auto_X on the system, and in fact times
out before it gets through them all. Presumably something is waiting
on this to finish that's not actually needed, but the immediate
problem is solved by cleaning them out.

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Re: very long boot time in fedora 15

[R. G. Newbury]

On 05/26/2011 05:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote

> I'm trying to work out why Fedora 15 takes an incredibly long time to
> start on this machine (Intel Core 2 Duo T5500, 1GB RAM laptop),
> booting takes several minutes as opposed to F13. No custom modules,
> just stock Fedora, intel wireless and graphics, used preupgrade to go
> F13 to F15. I can try and provide more information, but I'm not sure
> where to start with this, any ideas? Some things that might be
> relevant below.
>
> dmesg, at the 'gap':
> [   43.006805] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
> [   43.010915] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
> [   43.044360] iwl3945 :06:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9
> [   43.111086] iwl3945 :06:00.0: Error setting Tx power (-5).
> [   43.132498] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
> [  344.645061] RPC: Registered udp transport module.
> [  344.645066] RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
> [  344.645069] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module.

It *looks* like it is waiting for the link to become ready.

You could try using the iwlagn module instead of the iwl3945, to see if 
that module reacts better. It is supposed to work with the 3945 chipset 
iirc.

I would then try turning off ALL network services and dependencies of 
those. and timing boot in that condition. Then timing startup of the 
network with the wired NIC only, and then with the wireless NIC only, 
etc. etc.

It *could* be that the delay is some other module which actually depends 
on network services, such as an NFS or samba share etc..


Geoff


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F15, Shutter screen capture fail

[Steven Stern]

I'd been using Shutter to do screen captures from selected portions of 
the screen.  The usual method is to use the mouse to draw a 
rectangle,then press ENTER to grab that selection. The first part works 
-- I can select a portion of the screen -- but the ENTER is ignored.  I 
have to use CTRL-ALT-F2 to open a console and kill the shutter process 
to get control of the Gnome Shell again.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708433



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Re: Is the display manager only a login screen?

[Paul Smith]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
>> Thanks, Patrick, for your clarification. If a display manager provides
>> only a login screen, then what is the point of discussing whether a
>> display manager is lightweight or not, as the ongoing discussion on
>> the this list?
>
> You might want to read
>
> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html

Thanks, Rahul, for the useful reference.

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Re: A question from the truly dumb?

[nathan forbes]

On May 27, 2011 11:34 AM, "William Case"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> More and more I have noticed the use of a double colon [::]in coding
> explanations but have not noticed it actually used anywhere.  Does it
> mean anything other than being used as a format.
>
> For example, in a recent repo description:
>
>perl-DateTime-Format-Natural
>Description :
>DateTime::Format::Natural takes a string with a human readable
>date/time and creates a machine readable one by applying natural
>parsing logic.
>
> rsync uses the :: in its a man pages.  There it seems to indicate a
> remote machine, but doesn't seem to be required.
>
> Just something I have been meaning to ask for a long time.
>
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Well Perl and C++ use it as part of their syntax. In your example, the
module DateTime contains Format which contains Natural. So the full name of
Natural would be DateTime::Format::Natural.

And in C++ it's used to display the scope of namespaces and classes, and so
on. For example if you had something like:

namespace example {
class Hello {
static int myMethod();
}
}

In order to call myMethod() you would do example::Hello::myMethod().
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Re: F15 long boot time

[JB]

Bob Goodwin  wildblue.net> writes:

> ...
> # 192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg/  /mnt/srvr2  nfs
^^
> ...

> # 192.168.1.48:/mnt/mnl/  /mnt/srvr2  nfs
^^
> 

> ...

Is that what you want ?

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A question from the truly dumb?

[William Case]

Hi,

More and more I have noticed the use of a double colon [::]in coding
explanations but have not noticed it actually used anywhere.  Does it
mean anything other than being used as a format.  

For example, in a recent repo description:

perl-DateTime-Format-Natural
Description :
DateTime::Format::Natural takes a string with a human readable
date/time and creates a machine readable one by applying natural
parsing logic.

rsync uses the :: in its a man pages.  There it seems to indicate a
remote machine, but doesn't seem to be required.

Just something I have been meaning to ask for a long time.

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Re: OpendJDK7 for Fedora 15?

[Deepak Bhole]

* Clemens Eisserer  [2011-05-27 06:10]:
> Hi,
> 
> Are there pre-built packages of OpenJDK7 for Fedora-15? Maybe in some
> repos disabled by default?
> I know it has not reached final yet, I just like the bleeding edge ;)
> 

Hi Clemens,

At the moment there are no OpenJDK7 packages for Fedora. We are working
on it however and intend to provide a parallel installable rpm (with the
OpenJDK6 rpm) soon.

Cheers,
Deepak

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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Mike Chambers]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 06:28 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

As stated in previous email, try below command, then reboot and see if
that helps.

systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service


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Re: F15 long boot time

[Mike Chambers]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 11:10 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

> 
> All I added where the lines for NFS and they have been the same
> through several versions of Fedora.
> 
> If you see any glaring error let me know, otherwise I will live with
> it, Normally I only boot once a day and I'm drinking coffee then ...

Try doing the below command (while already booted up, then reboot after
it's run) and see if this helps any.

systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service


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Re: Mounting cifs

[JD]

On 05/27/11 05:03, Tim wrote:
> If, and I mean if, being zapped was the cause, then that could well be
> the nature of the fault.  Damage to components that allow a charge to
> build up that causes stuff ups.
>
> Faulty equipment can behave in weird ways.  I've been servicing
> electronics equipment for over twenty years, and it's quite hard to
> relate broken equipment behaviour to how things are expected to work.
>
> That's possible.  Or just a strange compatibility between yours and
> theirs.  Or you've firewalled things off, too much, and broken basic
> networking.
As this is a new development that started AFTER at&t
flashed the modem with new firmware, I doubt it is
faulty or zapped equipment. I don't believe in those
kinds of co-incidences.
AFA compatibility, I think we are reaching for a hare's
horn :)

> In the best of worlds, you'd reconfigure their modem/router to act as
> just a bare-bones modem (bridge mode), so there's less processing
> between modem and your own router.
That modem cannot be configured as you describe.
> Can you not replace it, yourself, with something equivalent?  Does using
> that ISP absolutely require their equipment?
Obviously you have not used at&t uverse service :)
Without THEIR modem nothing works. Uverse is a
package: TV, Internet, Phone services. Decryption
of the TV signal occurs in the modem, and is then
sent out the same cable on a different frequency,
which is then picked up by each TV's at&t' STB.
The modem just has piggybacked into it the WIFI
and ethernet card.
> Can you break it, accidentally on purpose?  ;-)
I think the owner could ask them to replace it.
but I do not believe that is  the problem. Everything
works except for the comm between the LAN
clients. That is why I do not believe in the "zapped"
theory.
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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

> That's not what I said at all. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Yeah right, you pointed out that firefox uses gtk+ for rendering, and
that it links with cairo.
So? Because its not a gtk app, it does not suffer from the problem?

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Re: F15 preupgrade seems not to work with /boot on RAID

[George Avrunin]

On Tue, 24 May 2011 22:12:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman 
wrote:

> All packages downloaded, but preupgrade reported an error on the console
> I ran it from regarding the fact that /boot was on a software RAID
> device.  The GUI, on the other hand, appeared to finish normally and
> reported that the installation would start on reboot.  It didn't.
> 
> So is there a reason preupgrade can't work with /boot on RAID when the
> original (F12, IIRC, upgraded to F14) installation did?  And why doesn't
> the GUI detect the error and fail?
> 

I'm seeing the same problem--GUI doesn't complain, but doesn't work and
preupgrade-cli complains. Any suggestions?

  George



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Re: F15 long boot time

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 08:52, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> On 05/27/2011 08:27 AM, Jan Willies wrote:
>
>>  In my case, it is waiting for a NFSv4 mount to come alive. I am not 
>> sure
>>  why that takes so long.
>>
>>
>> noauto,comment=systemd.automount in /etc/fstab should help
> Maybe, but I don't understand why it takes ~30 seconds to establish a
> NFSv4 mount. What's the root problem here?
>
> - Mike

The more I mess with this the more confused I become. Everything I
do has changed where the delays occur but the end result is still slow.

Also the nfs system was set up nfs3 I believe, wonder if I need to
change something there. Hate to change anything when it works
perfectly as it is [NFS].

Anyway, presently my fstab is as follows:

[bobg@box6 ~]$ cat /etc/fstab

#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Wed May 25 13:21:58 2011
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under
'/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8)
for more info
#
/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root /   ext4   
defaults1 1
UUID=60fbd9d5-f192-46bf-a0de-59ebaf40b1a7
/boot   ext4defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_home /home   ext4   
defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_swap swapswap   
defaults0 0
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs  
defaults0 0
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts 
gid=5,mode=620  0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs  
defaults0 0
proc/proc   proc   
defaults0 0

192.168.1.48:/mnt/rfg/ /mnt/srvr1nfs  
  noauto,comment=systemd.automount,rw,user0 0

# 192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg/  /mnt/srvr2  nfs
defaults,rw,user0 0

# 192.168.1.48:/mnt/mnl/  /mnt/srvr2  nfs
defaults,rw,user0 0

# 192.168.1.48:/media/SimpleDrive/data/  /mnt/srvr3  nfs
defaults,rw,user0 0


All I added where the lines for NFS and they have been the same
through several versions of Fedora.

If you see any glaring error let me know, otherwise I will live with
it, Normally I only boot once a day and I'm drinking coffee then ...

Thanks.

Bob

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Re: [389-users] Reg ldif file import/export and ldap replication over ldaps

[Rich Megginson]

On 05/27/2011 12:11 AM, s.varadha rajan wrote:

Hi,

Can i get any update on my below query ?

Regards,
Varad

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:17 PM, s.varadha rajan 
mailto:rajanvara...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,

We are using Ubuntu 10.04 server OS and all the web applications
are running on that.We have already implemented fedora-ds for ldap
auth.now we are planning to go some up-gradation.kindly let me
know the following,

1.How to migrate running fedora-ds server to another server ?

2.i have taken all the user/group+etc in ldif format.is
 it enough for migration or any other db
(/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-) also need to bacup ?


LDIF should be fine.


if any procedure please share with me ? how to import/export .ldif
file


/usr/lib[64]/dirsrv/slapd-INSTNAME/db2ldif - export database to ldif
/usr/lib[64]/dirsrv/slapd-INSTNAME/ldif2db - import database from ldif



3.in  our setup,one server is in public network.so i
am planning to do replication through "ldaps", i.e local server to
public server replication through highly secure how to ?

Not exactly, but there is plenty of documentation - see 
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/8.2/html-single/Administration_Guide/index.html#Managing_Replication-Replication_Overview



Please help me on the above topics.

Regards,
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Reverting evolution to Fedora 14

[Gilboa Davara]

Hello all,

I've just upgraded my a couple of my machines to Fedora 15/x86_64 up
from Fedora 14 x86_64.
Sadly enough, due to large number of GNOME3 related issues, I'm
thinking about switching back to Fedora 14.

Here the problem: When I upgraded my netbook and fired up evolution,
it automatically upgraded my evolution DB.
Currently evolution is DOA - as I cannot send any emails without
crashing it [1].
So the question is rather simple: Can I somehow export the mail DB
back to a format that Fedora 14's evolution can read? (Assuming that I
can recover the DB's, among other thing evolution crashes seemed to
have corrupted the DB).

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Re: [389-users] Windows Sync Agreement Help

[Rich Megginson]

On 05/27/2011 04:22 AM, Albert Teh wrote:

Hi Rich,

I reinstalled 389-ds-base 1.2.8.3 from EPEL5 and added onewaysync set 
as fromWindows in the multimaster replication plugin. I still got the 
same result with no user created in the DS subtree.
Have you read 
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/8.2/html-single/Administration_Guide/index.html#Windows_Sync-About_Windows_Sync


Errors log:

[27/May/2011:06:18:26 -0400] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Beginning total 
update of replica "agmt="cn=ADSync" (wodcstage-1:389)".
[27/May/2011:06:18:26 -0400] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Finished total 
update of replica "agmt="cn=ADSync" (wodcstage-1:389)". Sent 0 entries.



Access log:

[27/May/2011:06:18:29 -0400] conn=1 op=114 SRCH 
base="cn=ADSync,cn=replica,cn=dc\3Dalgonquincollege\2Cdc\3Dcom,cn=mapping 
tree,cn=config" scope=0 
filter="(|(objectClass=*)(objectClass=ldapsubentry))" 
attrs="nsds5replicaLastUpdateStart nsds5replicaLastUpdateEnd 
nsds5replicaChangesSentSinceStartup nsds5replicaLastUpdateStatus 
nsds5replicaUpdateInProgress nsds5replicaLastInitStart 
nsds5replicaLastInitEnd nsds5replicaLastInitStatus 
nsds5BeginReplicaRefresh"
[27/May/2011:06:18:29 -0400] conn=1 op=114 RESULT err=0 tag=101 
nentries=1 etime=


Thanks for your help.

Albert



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Rich Megginson > wrote:


On 05/26/2011 08:58 AM, Albert Teh wrote:

Hi,

We are setting up a new CENTOS-DS version 8.1.0. and CENTOS 5.5
and attempt to synchronize with the existing 2003 Windows AD server.
Performing  the full sync completed. There is no user created in
the DS subtree.

We would like to perform one way Sync:  AD > DS. Once it
works, we will set up the password Sync from the AD to DS.

One way sync isn't supported with 8.1.0.  I suggest using
389-ds-base 1.2.8.3 from EPEL5 which does support one way sync.
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_Way_Active_Directory_Sync


AD:   cn=Users,cn=location,dc=ad,dc=domain,dc=com
DS:   ou=Peoples,dc=domain,dc=com

errors log:


[26/May/2011:10:20:34 -0400] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Beginning
total update of replica "agmt="cn=ADsync" (wodcstage-1:389)".
[26/May/2011:10:20:34 -0400] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Finished
total update of replica "agmt="cn=ADsync" (wodcstage-1:389)".
Sent 0 entries.

access log:

26/May/2011:10:20:37 -0400] conn=11 op=819 SRCH base="cn=ADsync,
cn=replica, cn=\22dc=algonquincollege, dc=com\22, cn=mapping
tree, cn=config" scope=0
filter="(|(objectClass=*)(objectClass=ldapsubentry))"
attrs="nsds5replicaLastUpdateStart nsds5replicaLastUpdateEnd
nsds5replicaChangesSentSinceStartup nsds5replicaLastUpdateStatus
nsds5replicaUpdateInProgress nsds5replicaLastInitStart
nsds5replicaLastInitEnd nsds5replicaLastInitStatus
nsds5BeginReplicaRefresh"
[26/May/2011:10:20:37 -0400] conn=11 op=819 RESULT err=0 tag=101
nentries=1 etime=0


Thanks.
Albert



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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 27 May 2011 16:35:28 +0200
Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> I hope there is a way without using gnome-settings daemon,
> it used to work so well in the past and your setup seems rather complicated.

I've been meaning to investigate changing the system
defaults in all the /etc/font* stuff, but my brain starts
to hurt when I look at it :-). (And I'm not sure gtk
would pay attention without the deamon anyway).

Some of the stuff in my web page is a bit old. You can control
things now with gconf settings (or is it dconf these days?) you
couldn't control previously, so not all that complication
is required.
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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Misha Shnurapet]

27.05.2011, 21:59, "Clemens Eisserer" :
> Hi,
>
> I am running Fedora-15 + xfce on my laptop with rgb subpixel hinting enabled,
> however it seems all gtk2/gtk3 applications ignore that setting and
> apply grayscale hinting instead.

Yeah, I installed freetype-freeworld from RPMFusion and cairo-freeworld and 
libXft-freeworld from infinality.net, but Banshee and other apps are completely 
ignorant.

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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

> Firefox uses GTK for widget rendering ('browse' button, etc). It also
> uses[1] cairo to render fonts/pages (just like any other Gtk app).

Firefox's "browse" button is a self-implemented XUL button not a gtk
one, just using GTK+ for theming.
Firefox just uses GTK for theming, but itself is no GTK application.

> at session startup time in order to read settings
> such as font rendering from it via dbus.

Thanks I'll have a look shortly.
I hope there is a way without using gnome-settings daemon,
it used to work so well in the past and your setup seems rather complicated.

Thanks, Clemens
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Gnome 3 mail notification

[Steve Searle]

Is there a way of getting GNOME 3 to notify me if I have email available
for my imap based account?

Thanks

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Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

[Harald Hoyer]

On 26.05.2011 14:45, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> 26.05.2011, 11:17, "Juan R. de Silva" :
>> Could anybody explain it, why GNOME folks decided to hide the Shutdown
>> and especially Restart buttons/options from a user so well? Is it
>> especially dangerous to use them nowadays? Or GNOME folks assume people
>> do not shutdown/restart their computers anymore?
> 
> ;)
> 
> In the power management settings (System Settings - Hardware - Power), you 
> can set your computer to shut down when the Power button is pressed. That 
> makes your computer behave just like any other gadget you may have.
> 

Ah! Perfect! Thanks! This really should be the default!
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Re: Fedora-15-i686-Live-XFCE.iso /dev/fb0 problem

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 27 May 2011 23:46:43 +1000
Philip Rhoades  wrote:

> People,
> 
> On my Gateway LT30 netbook, I am still getting similar problems to
> the ones I got after the Beta and RCs XFCE Live CD version installs
> to HD.
> 
> Booting on the installed system hangs so I:
> 
> - boot to single user - OK
> 
> - "init 2" - OK
> 
> - "init 3" - OK
> 
> - "init 5" - Fails with "/dev/fb0" does not exist errors (it does
> exist) 
> - the same problem as the previous versions.

What is the exact error? It then hangs? or ?

Can you attach your complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed session? 

kevin


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Re: Where did power off extensions go?

[Clyde E. Kunkel]

On 05/26/2011 10:30 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Clyde E. Kunkel  cox.net>  writes:
>
>> So, I upgraded F15 tonight which included gnome-shell-3.0.2-1.fc15, et
>> al, and now the power off option extension is no longer present.
>> Reinstalled all extensions, reloaded the shell, rebooted, said some
>> incantations, but it seems the shell is ignoring the power off mod.
>> Sure, I can, and will, use the alt key to get it, but, anyone have any
>> ideas?
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708230
>
>
>
>

Heh, heh.good thing I don't believe in conspiracies, this would be a 
good one (ooops...did I just start one?)

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Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

[James McKenzie]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 15:20, Alan Evans  wrote:
>> The most obstinate wing has been driving GNOME for a very long time
>> now. For a good laugh, just browse the gnome-devel archives.
>
> 15 years ago, in IBM OS/2 Warp, changing the mouse cursor was a
> drag-and-drop operation, just drag any .ico over the drop area of the
> mouse pointer tab in the mouse properties object, and that .ico became
> the cursor.
>
I remember those days.  This would be a really 'neat' feature to have
in any current OS/WM/Shell...

> I´m curious if things have improved in Gnome 3, or changing the
> cursors is still a pain in the ass.
>
Don't know.  I don't have an Intel based machine powerful enough to
try this out.  However, I may relegate my 'spare' Mac to being a Linux
machine and see what happens.  It is sitting on the shelf gathering
dust now.
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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Michael Cronenworth]

Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> However non-gtk apps like firefox

Firefox uses GTK for widget rendering ('browse' button, etc). It also 
uses[1] cairo to render fonts/pages (just like any other Gtk app).

$ ldd /usr/lib64/xulrunner-1.9.2/xulrunner-bin | grep gtk
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 
(0x0034ff20)


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_%28graphics%29#Notable_usage
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Fedora-15-i686-Live-XFCE.iso /dev/fb0 problem

[Philip Rhoades]

People,

On my Gateway LT30 netbook, I am still getting similar problems to the 
ones I got after the Beta and RCs XFCE Live CD version installs to HD.

Booting on the installed system hangs so I:

- boot to single user - OK

- "init 2" - OK

- "init 3" - OK

- "init 5" - Fails with "/dev/fb0" does not exist errors (it does exist) 
- the same problem as the previous versions.

I want to try F15 on this machine (it currently runs F13) because F14 
had a problem with a slow, sluggish mouse but I am not having much 
success with F15 either so far . .

Regards,

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Re: F15 long boot time

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 27 May 2011 08:52:50 -0400
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:

> Maybe, but I don't understand why it takes ~30 seconds to establish a 
> NFSv4 mount. What's the root problem here?

Well, the root problem is NFS :-).

I don't understand any of what is going on with systemd and network
mounts. I don't timeout, my network mounts simply fail right away:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008

(I think that's the bug I'm seeing).

Anyway, I just wrote a couple of shell scripts. One finds all
the NFS mountpoints not marked noauto in the /etc/fstab,
then it invokes the other script in the background, passing
it the name of the mountpoint.

The other script loops calling mount every few seconds as long
as the mounts keeps failing, then when the filesystem is finally
mounted it exits.

I start the first script from rc.local, and now I have reliable
network mounts that don't delay the boot (I've always wanted
an option that would background the mount right away without
timing out once first, now I kind of have one).

Systemd isn't the only system that fails to mount network files.
I have the same problems with upstart on ubuntu virtual machines
as well and have to fix it much the same way.
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Re: GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 27 May 2011 14:59:56 +0200
Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Any ideas what could be wrong?

I don't know if it is the same in f15 as it was previously,
but all GTK apps need the gnome-settings-daemon running
at session startup time in order to read settings
such as font rendering from it via dbus.

See http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/stick/stick.html#De-Gnoming

for the stuff I do at startup in my plain old fvwm sessions.
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Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

[Colin Brace]

Genes MailLists wrote:
> 
> Everyone I know is doing either (a)  stick with F14 for 6 months and
> see if things improve by then .. or (b) try different DE (kde, lxde etc)
>  ... or both of the above ...
> 

I am currently sitting in KDE, wondering the very same thing: stick with it
or go back to F14 and Gnome 2. I have been using Fedora  + Gnome since 2004,
so I am slightly in shock by this whole business.

What I missed the most in Gnome 3 are the gnome-panels. My first impression
of KDE is that the panels aren't implemented as elegantly.

Gnome 3 looks very sleek, but looks ain't everything.

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F14 --> F15 upgrade no xcfe

[Terry Polzin]

I upgraded a laptop running xfce as a desktop and after the upgrade
completes and the system reboots the desktop is decidedly GNOME
switchdesk claims to change it but restarting X brings up the same
desktop as previous.

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GTK apps ignore subpixel hinting settings

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

I am running Fedora-15 + xfce on my laptop with rgb subpixel hinting enabled,
however it seems all gtk2/gtk3 applications ignore that setting and
apply grayscale hinting instead.
However non-gtk apps like firefox and qt apps and even java apps apply
subpixel hinting correctly:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_6JfvVYqmzVVMkb1HSxaPiaiz_J7JUdoc8VSAN3rP2s?feat=directlink

I already had the same problem with Fedora-14 running KDE, however
I've switched to xfce and
as most apps are now gtk based the problem is more annoying.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

Thank you in advance, Clemens
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Any ideas for debugging hostapd problem on f15?

[Tom Horsley]

I have an extensive description of getting my ralink based
USB dongle to work as an access point on fedora 14:

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/hardware/rtl8192cu/rtl8192cu.html#Success

I'm trying to replicate that success on fedora 15, and can't
seem to get it to work. I was connected once briefly, but
thought maybe the NAT wasn't working because I forgot to
rename eth0 to em1 in the iptables rules. I saw NetworkManager
grabbing control of wlan0 and br0 so I disabled it. But after
fixing all that, I can't even seem to get connected at all now.
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Re: F15 long boot time

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

On 05/27/2011 08:27 AM, Jan Willies wrote:

> In my case, it is waiting for a NFSv4 mount to come alive. I am not sure
> why that takes so long.
>
>
> noauto,comment=systemd.automount in /etc/fstab should help

Maybe, but I don't understand why it takes ~30 seconds to establish a 
NFSv4 mount. What's the root problem here?

- Mike
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f15+Gnome3: how to put on desktop an applet for see cpu and network usage

[Dario Lesca]

Hi, on my f14 I had place on my panel the system monitor, witch show me
the CPU and network usage.

How to do that into F15+Gnome3?

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Re: F15 long boot time

[Jan Willies]

2011/5/27 Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak 

> On 05/26/2011 06:05 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >  On a new F15 install replacing F14. The boot process pauses at
> >  "Start LSB: The cups scheduler" for 60 seconds before going on
> >  to the text log-in. I don't know what the cups scheduler is or
> >  what to do with it.
> >
> >  Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this?
>
> My boot process often pauses at that point, but it isn't because of cups
> (even if that is the last message). It's because of the next message.
>
> Check your boot logs carefully to see what comes after the cups message.
>
> In my case, it is waiting for a NFSv4 mount to come alive. I am not sure
> why that takes so long.
>

noauto,comment=systemd.automount in /etc/fstab should help

see
http://www.happyassassin.net/2011/05/12/cute-systemd-trick-of-the-day-auto-mounting-remote-shares/
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Re: Positive tips and help for GNOME 3 please

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

> gnome-shell-extensions-alternate-tab
> gnome-shell-extensions-dock
> gnome-shell-extensions-places-menu

 > "gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-seconds true"
 > causes the gnome shell date to show seconds.


A million THANK YOUs!

Those tweaks make my desktop much more to my liking!


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Re: F15 long boot time

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

On 05/26/2011 06:05 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>  On a new F15 install replacing F14. The boot process pauses at
>  "Start LSB: The cups scheduler" for 60 seconds before going on
>  to the text log-in. I don't know what the cups scheduler is or
>  what to do with it.
>
>  Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this?

My boot process often pauses at that point, but it isn't because of cups 
(even if that is the last message). It's because of the next message.

Check your boot logs carefully to see what comes after the cups message.

In my case, it is waiting for a NFSv4 mount to come alive. I am not sure 
why that takes so long.


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Re: Mounting cifs

[Tim]

Tim:
>> Doesn't meant it hasn't been zapped from another route (static inside
>> the house, hotplugging equipment, poor anti-static precautions when the
>> unit was built), or has simply failed.

JD:
> But how can you explain that a power reset (without letting
> it cool down), makes all three machine be able to communicate
> and 20-30 minutes later, they cannot?

If, and I mean if, being zapped was the cause, then that could well be
the nature of the fault.  Damage to components that allow a charge to
build up that causes stuff ups.

Faulty equipment can behave in weird ways.  I've been servicing
electronics equipment for over twenty years, and it's quite hard to
relate broken equipment behaviour to how things are expected to work.

>> You don't have to use /their/ crappy thing for your wireless.  You could
>> use your own wireless access point within your LAN.

> I tried. I attached my ow router to the att router.
> And guess what, the latency is so horrible for EVERY
> packet, that it makes it useless. It's as if heir router
> firmware does not seem to like to receive NATed packets?

That's possible.  Or just a strange compatibility between yours and
theirs.  Or you've firewalled things off, too much, and broken basic
networking.

In the best of worlds, you'd reconfigure their modem/router to act as
just a bare-bones modem (bridge mode), so there's less processing
between modem and your own router.

>> I'm presuming you're persevering with using it because you're encumbered
>> with it by your ISP.  If you're stuck with it, and it is faulty, I'd be
>> getting more snarky with the ISP about getting it swapped.  Seeing as
>> you're paying for it, one way or another.

> I assure you I tried. They "analyze" the problem from remote
> and say they cannot find any problem with the router.
> If it were up to me I would get rid of them faster than light speed :)

Can you not replace it, yourself, with something equivalent?  Does using
that ISP absolutely require their equipment?

Can you break it, accidentally on purpose?  ;-)


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Re: Do a memory test before upgrading to Fedora 15

[Tim]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 11:48 +0200, birger wrote:
> Massive (really massive) memory failures on a rather
> new PC that had passed memtest86 just a few months ago when it was
> built.

Were proper anti-static precautions taken when it was built?

The usual ramification of not taking them is that the components are
damaged, but still work at the time.  Some time later, they fail.  Long
time after you'd associate that failure with handling the components.

The time interval would depend on the degree of static damage.  When we
were studying digital electronics at college, back when I was young and
dinosaurs roamed the Earth, we'd be talking about knocking years off the
expected life of the equipment.  i.e. When something died years later,
when it should have lasted twenty years, or so, static shock would have
been the diagnosed cause.

More extreme shock would have a much shorter time period, of course.

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Re: local IMAP server

[Timothy Murphy]

Lewis NH2 wrote:

> I plan to go for fetchmail to retrieve the email from the ISP and
> dovecot to provide the local IMAP server. Now I am a bit unsure about
> the setup. As far as I can see, it seems that most solutions found on
> the net involves a 3rd agent, for instance procmail.
> 
> Is it possible to go only with fetchmail and dovecot? If I understood
> correctly, dovecot comes up with a LDA that can be directly evoked
> from fetchmail using the mda directive. Is this correct?
> 
> Does someone have succeed in setting such configuration up?

I do precisely this (if I understand you correctly).

1. I run dovecot on my CentOS home server.
The changes I've made to /etc/dovecot.conf are:
---
#protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s
protocols = imap imaps

#info_log_path =
info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot

#ssl_listen =
ssl_listen = *:993

#ssl_disable = no
ssl_disable = no

#ssl_cert_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/certs/dovecot.pem
#ssl_key_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem
ssl_cert_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/certs/dovecot.pem
ssl_key_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem

#   mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir
mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir
mail_debug = yes

#mailbox_idle_check_interval = 30
mailbox_idle_check_interval = 30

#maildir_copy_with_hardlinks = no
maildir_copy_with_hardlinks = yes

protocol imap {
>  listen = *:143
>  ssl_listen = *:993
---

[I created the ssl_cert and ssl_key files by running
/usr/share/doc/dovecot-1.0.7/examples/mkcert.sh ]

2. I collect email on the server from 5 sites with fetchmail.
I have entries like /etc/cron.d/fetch.maths on the server
---
5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * tim /usr/bin/fetchmail -s pop.maths.tcd.ie
---

3. I have a stanza in .fetchmailrc for each site like
---
poll pop.gmail.com
proto POP3
port 995
user "***" password "***" ssl
---
(The stanzas differ slightly for some sites,
and required a little experimentation.)

Nb I'm no dovecot guru.
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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Ian Malone]

On 27 May 2011 12:34, Bob Goodwin  wrote:
> On 27/05/11 06:51, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> On 27/05/11 06:02, Ian Malone wrote:
>>> Was hesitating to suggest you might have the same problem I did, as it
>>> looks to be stopping at a different point, but it's maybe worth
>>> checking you don't have lots of connections specified in
>>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708207
>>>
>>
>>        I don't even show ifcfg-eth1 in:
>>
>>        /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
>>
>>        Only a line for 127.0.0.1 with a few items, looks normal.
>>
>>        So that may be what's causing problems. I will try creating it.
>>        The boot process also stops momentarily at NFS too, but that's
>>        perhaps a second or two so I thought that might be normal? The
>>        60 seconds at cups scheduler got my attention.
>>
>>        I will let you know the result.
>>
>>        Bob
>>
>>
>
>    Ok, I created the script file referring to the one in the working
>    F-14 box9. The symptoms are different but I may not have the script
>    entries exactly right?
>
>        [bobg@box6 ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
>
>
>        DEVICE=eth1
>        IPADDR=192.168.1.6
>        NETMASK=255.255.255.0
>        BOORPROTO=none
>        ONBOOT=yes
>        TYPE=Ethernet
>        NM_CONTROLLED=no
>        USERCTL=yes
>        IPV6INIT=yes
>        DNS2=208.67.220.220
>        DNS1=208.67.222.222
>        PREFIX=24
>        GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
>
>    I'm not sure about the PREFIX item?
>
>    Now it pauses about 15 sec at Cups Scheduler and then stumbles over
>    "sm-client" a bit longer.
>
>    I suspect this may be related to the problem, now to get this
>    configuration file right. any suggestions appreciated.
>
>    Bob
>
>    Note: I've rsync'd the two thunderbird mails and am working from the
>    F-15 computer now. Stuff seems to work fine, just the boot
>    "problem," not a major thing, just annoying.
>
>

My particular problem was the system was attempting to connect to
everything that had an ifcfg-X, and waited for that to finish. Sounds
like yours isn't quite the same, but related to the particular network
setup.

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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 06:51, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 27/05/11 06:02, Ian Malone wrote:
>> Was hesitating to suggest you might have the same problem I did, as it
>> looks to be stopping at a different point, but it's maybe worth
>> checking you don't have lots of connections specified in
>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708207
>>
>
>I don't even show ifcfg-eth1 in:
>
>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
>
>Only a line for 127.0.0.1 with a few items, looks normal.
>
>So that may be what's causing problems. I will try creating it.
>The boot process also stops momentarily at NFS too, but that's
>perhaps a second or two so I thought that might be normal? The
>60 seconds at cups scheduler got my attention.
>
>I will let you know the result.
>
>Bob
>
>

Ok, I created the script file referring to the one in the working
F-14 box9. The symptoms are different but I may not have the script
entries exactly right?

[bobg@box6 ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1


DEVICE=eth1
IPADDR=192.168.1.6
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
BOORPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NM_CONTROLLED=no
USERCTL=yes
IPV6INIT=yes
DNS2=208.67.220.220
DNS1=208.67.222.222
PREFIX=24
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1

I'm not sure about the PREFIX item?

Now it pauses about 15 sec at Cups Scheduler and then stumbles over
"sm-client" a bit longer.

I suspect this may be related to the problem, now to get this
configuration file right. any suggestions appreciated.

Bob

Note: I've rsync'd the two thunderbird mails and am working from the
F-15 computer now. Stuff seems to work fine, just the boot
"problem," not a major thing, just annoying.


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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 06:02, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 27 May 2011 10:51, Bob Goodwin  wrote:
>> On 27/05/11 04:56, Tim Waugh wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 21:21 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this?
>>> It might be trying to find out the hostname for each network interface.
>>> Do you have a network interface that does not have a corresponding
>>> hostname in DNS?
>>>
>> I'm not sure, does F15 require an entry in /etc/hosts for each
>> printer? I don't usually deal with them using hostnames. The
>> printer first "installed on the F15 system is connected via a
>> D-Link device that simply converts USB to Ethernet, a printer
>> server, and the problem was manifest with it. I treat it as
>> 192.168.1.4 and simply set the rest of the printer set-up stuff
>> to whatever satisfies the configuration script. I much preferred
>> the old system where I entered data into the cups screen.
>>
> Was hesitating to suggest you might have the same problem I did, as it
> looks to be stopping at a different point, but it's maybe worth
> checking you don't have lots of connections specified in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708207
>

I don't even show ifcfg-eth1 in:

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*

Only a line for 127.0.0.1 with a few items, looks normal.

So that may be what's causing problems. I will try creating it.
The boot process also stops momentarily at NFS too, but that's
perhaps a second or two so I thought that might be normal? The
60 seconds at cups scheduler got my attention.

I will let you know the result.

Bob

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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 06:02, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 05:51 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>  I'm not sure, does F15 require an entry in /etc/hosts for each
>>  printer?
> No, it's not about individual printers but about network interfaces.
> CUPS needs to know all the hostnames by which the local machine can be
> referred to.
>
> Take a look at what IP addresses your machine has using "ip addr".  If
> there are any missing from /etc/hosts, try adding them to it and see if
> the problem goes away.
>
> Tim.
> */
>
I configured /etc/hosts:

$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6
localhost6.localdomain6

192.168.1.9box9box9
192.168.1.48box48box48
192.168.1.52cam2cam2
192.168.1.51cam1cam1

I rebooted and it still stopped at Starting Cups Scheduler for one minute.

I also added box6 after the localhost line:

$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   box6 localhost.localdomainlocalhost
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6
localhost6.localdomain6

192.168.1.9box9box9
192.168.1.48box48box48
192.168.1.52cam2cam2
192.168.1.51cam1cam1


It still stopped for one minute.

Bob
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OpendJDK7 for Fedora 15?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

Are there pre-built packages of OpenJDK7 for Fedora-15? Maybe in some
repos disabled by default?
I know it has not reached final yet, I just like the bleeding edge ;)

Thanks, Clemens
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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Tim Waugh]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 05:51 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I'm not sure, does F15 require an entry in /etc/hosts for each
> printer?

No, it's not about individual printers but about network interfaces.
CUPS needs to know all the hostnames by which the local machine can be
referred to.

Take a look at what IP addresses your machine has using "ip addr".  If
there are any missing from /etc/hosts, try adding them to it and see if
the problem goes away.

Tim.
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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Ian Malone]

On 27 May 2011 10:51, Bob Goodwin  wrote:
> On 27/05/11 04:56, Tim Waugh wrote:
>> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 21:21 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>>          Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this?
>> It might be trying to find out the hostname for each network interface.
>> Do you have a network interface that does not have a corresponding
>> hostname in DNS?
>>

>
>        I'm not sure, does F15 require an entry in /etc/hosts for each
>        printer? I don't usually deal with them using hostnames. The
>        printer first "installed on the F15 system is connected via a
>        D-Link device that simply converts USB to Ethernet, a printer
>        server, and the problem was manifest with it. I treat it as
>        192.168.1.4 and simply set the rest of the printer set-up stuff
>        to whatever satisfies the configuration script. I much preferred
>        the old system where I entered data into the cups screen.
>

Was hesitating to suggest you might have the same problem I did, as it
looks to be stopping at a different point, but it's maybe worth
checking you don't have lots of connections specified in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708207

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Re: F15 long boot time/cups scheduler problem

[Bob Goodwin]

On 27/05/11 04:56, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 21:21 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>  Does anyone know what I need to do to fix this?
> It might be trying to find out the hostname for each network interface.
> Do you have a network interface that does not have a corresponding
> hostname in DNS?
>
> Tim.
> */
>

I'm not sure, does F15 require an entry in /etc/hosts for each
printer? I don't usually deal with them using hostnames. The
printer first "installed on the F15 system is connected via a
D-Link device that simply converts USB to Ethernet, a printer
server, and the problem was manifest with it. I treat it as
192.168.1.4 and simply set the rest of the printer set-up stuff
to whatever satisfies the configuration script. I much preferred
the old system where I entered data into the cups screen.

D-Link DP-301U shows: .

System Status
Server Name : PS-4B9153
Model   : DP-301U
Hardware Version: A1
Firmware Version: 1.10 (2003-02-25)
MAC Address : 00 0D 88 4B 91 53
IP Address  : 192.168.1.4 (Manual)
Up Time : 2 days, 13:43:42

Printer Status
USB

Printer Name: PS-4B9153-U1

Printer Status  : On line


I call the printer HL-5040 in the printer configuration screen.

I've just booted the F15 box and the Printing configuration
screen shows six printers, duplicates of the first three and
gives each a different name. I uncheck View, Discover Printers
and it's reduced to those I have set up. Must I give them the
names shown in the second set? I will do what ever corrects the
problem but this is different than what I have had to do  before.

Thanks for your interest.

Bob
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Do a memory test before upgrading to Fedora 15

[birger]

I think the new kernel uses memory differently compared to the kernels in F14.

One system I just upgraded consistently crashed with checksum failures on
the RPM packages during the actual install phase. In the end I found my F14
CD and ran memtest86. Massive (really massive) memory failures on a rather
new PC that had passed memtest86 just a few months ago when it was built. It
had been used with F14 without any big problems until now. Mostly running
armacycles and supertuxcart (it's a living room PC for the kids).

Since it had crashed halfway through upgrading X wouldn't start. I logged in
through ssh with X tunnelling and re-ran preupgrade after removing the
offending memory module. I then had to run package-cleanup --cleandupes

I would recommend running memtest86 prior to this upgrade just to be safe.
You may have defective memory you didn't know about. if you don't have a cd
handy, it should be as simple as installing memtest86+ and then run
memtest-setup to add it to the grub menu.

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Re: F14->F15 after preupgrade boot hang

[Ian Malone]

On 27 May 2011 10:32, Dj YB  wrote:
> On Friday May 27 2011 12:24:03 you wrote:
>> On 27 May 2011 09:53, Dj YB  wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > on my other F14 installation did a preupgrade yesterday then rebooted and
>> > then waited forever and nothing happened.
>> >
>> > any idea what to do?
>> >
>> > this is an installation on a usb flash drive which is working fine.
>> > using nvidia display
>> >
>> > Thanks for any hint,
>> > YB.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How far does it get? Do you get to the blue starting screen (the one
>> with the Fedora logo-shaped progress meter)? Are you able to check the
>> kernel options in grub and see whether rhgb is there or not (maybe an
>> issue with nvidia drivers)? Were you using the standard kernel drivers
>> for your display under F14 (nv/nouveau) or had you installed the
>> nvidia ones? Also, how long is forever (my laptop had a problem which
>> caused boot to hang for 5 minutes)?
>
> Hi,
>
> it see grub
>
> title Upgrade to Fedora 15 (Lovelock)
>        kernel /upgrade/vmlinuz preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
> ks=hd:UUID=bee474b4-0ac7-46b9-bf27-9e81994e324c:/upgrade/ks.cfg
>        initrd /upgrade/initrd.img
>
> I choose this upgrade and all i get is the blinking cursor in the upper left
> corner of the screen
> the longest I waited was about half an hour, in this time there seems to be no
> activity in the disk.
> pc is responding to keyboard Alt+Ctrl+Del and restart.
>

Best to send this reply to the list as I have no idea what's going on,
just trying to get some information that might help others figure it
out.

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