Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread Jatin K
On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote:
> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote:
> <>
>
>> Sorry, that was my mistake  :-(
> that happens. but does make things difficult to help.
>
>> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list.
> and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice.
>
> did blocking work with;
>
>[1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
> or
>[2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
>
> syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to
> indicate "NOT source".
>


[2] worked for me   ...by the way we need to indicate !  like '!' ( in 
single quote)

iptables -A INPUT -s '!' 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP




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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Sewill
On Friday, July 15, 2011 08:14:43 PM Rick Sewill wrote:
> On Friday, July 15, 2011 02:48:53 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > I feel like I'm losing my mind.  Can someone confirm that this is
> > supposed to work before I bugzilla this?
> > 
> > I am trying to get NetworkManager to ignore my wireless adapter (while
> > still managing my Ethernet adapter and VPN connections).  I have created
> > 
> > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0:
> >DEVICE=wlan0
> >TYPE=Wireless
> >HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
> >NM_CONTROLLED=no
> 
> Does the following work?
> NM_CONTROLLED="no"

It was a long shot if NM_CONTROLLED="no" works...documentation indicates
NM_CONTROLLED=no should work.  I think what you have should work too

Documentation says one must have the correct HWADDR address.
Looking at your followup emails, it appears you have the correct HWADDR 
address.  Another long shot...documentation suggests you can have
HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38 as you have...but as an experiment,
please put quotes around the MAC address
HWADDR="00:23:14:12:C1:38"

Why am I asking for quotes around things?  I'm not sure how NetworkManager 
"reads" ifcfg-wlan0.  It may have internal routines for reading the file -or-
it may use a shell (like the bash shell) to read ifcfg-wlan0.
I believe the non-NetworkManager network has scripts in 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that use the bash shell to read  ifcfg-wlan0. 
I am trying to guess what syntax might make NetworkManager and
non-NetworkManager happy.  To tell the truth, what you have should work.
I just want to rule out this possibility.

Another line of questions.  
What is in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf?
I have the following:
rsewill@rsewill:~ <3:1> $ more /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf 
[main]
plugins=ifcfg-rh
According to the documentation,  man NetworkManager.conf,
on a Redhat/Fedora system, one might have plugins=ifcfg-rh and/or keyfile
If one has both, the order the plugins are listed matters.
For example, do you have plugins=ifcfg-rh -or-  plugins=keyfile
-or- plugins=ifcfg-rh,keyfile -or- plugins=keyfile,ifcfg-rh?
Ideally you will say you have plugins=ifcfg-rh and we still won't have an idea 
what is wrong.  It's a possibility that needs to be ruled out.
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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote:
<>

> Sorry, that was my mistake  :-(

that happens. but does make things difficult to help.

> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list.

and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice.

did blocking work with;

  [1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
or
  [2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP

syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to
indicate "NOT source".

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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 15 July 2011 07:49 PM, g wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 09:46 AM, Jatin K wrote:
>> On Friday 15 July 2011 03:10 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
 '!' Solved my problem

>>> Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you
>>> stated you were trying to accomplish in your first post.
>>>
>>> Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all
>>> others get dropped.
>>>
>> yes  and thats what I wanted , Only specified IP can ftp to the server
> ---
>
>
> which is not what you stated in your first post, which was;
>
> }>  I want to deny a particular IP (172.16.158.111) address in my network to
> }>  FTP on server (RHEL6), I'm trying to add the following[1][2] iptabls
> }>  rules on server  and getting error [3]
>

Sorry, that was my mistake  :-(

actually I got the solution what was needed , from this list .

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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 15 July 2011 03:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 15.07.2011 11:46, schrieb Jatin K:
>> On Friday 15 July 2011 03:10 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
 '!' Solved my problem
>>> Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you
>>> stated you were trying to accomplish in your first post.
>>>
>>> Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all
>>> others get dropped.
>>>
>> yes  and thats what I wanted , Only specified IP can ftp to the server
> why do you not say this at the begin
>
> sorry, but first open a port and after that drop all except
> one ip is a really ugly style no one should do in production

I do not have any control over that decision  ,  I've to have do the 
things as per company's requirement.

I'm the service provider , my duty is to provide setup as per direction 
and documentations given by my customer ( company )

> why do you not simply open the port only for the ip you want?
> and this way you can open fro 2, 3, 4 IPs later

if I would have control over the setup, I definitely  go with your said 
solution.


> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s source-ip --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
>

thanks for you suggestions and help


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Re: Hard drive/Laptop swap - will fedora croak?

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:31:25 -0400
Gary Waters wrote:

> I set up a Fedora 15 installation on a laptop with an  intel based chipset. I 
> just got an AMD ( Turion ) chipset notebook. I assume swapping the hard drive 
> will result in the fedora installation crashing? If such is the case, other 
> than a fresh install, is there a way to do it which will work?

I don't think there is any way to know for sure other than try it and
see what happens, but I know when I swapped my AMD based motherboard for
an Intel I was pleasantly surprised to find everything working when
I booted up off then same old disk.
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Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-15 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
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On 07/15/2011 07:09 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Digimer wrote:
> 
>>> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs,
>>> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ?
>>>
>>> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say,
>>> where this is specified.
>>
>> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the
>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
> 
> As far as I can see, 70-persistent-net.rules just maps
> each MAC address on a machine to an interface,
> as also does ifcfg-ethX .
> 
> Neither seems to me to associate an interface, say eth1,
> to a LAN, say 192.168.2.0 .
> 
>>
> http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B
> 
> I'll study that, thanks. 
> 
Guys, he wants to know where the IP address is set, not what
determines what interface is eth1.

Now, this could be done a couple of ways. If eth1 is set to get its
information from a DHCP server, then it is not set on your machine
at all, but is given by the DHCP server. If you have a static IP
address, then I would look in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1. You should also have
other configurations in the network-scripts directory. ifcfg-eth0 is
the configuration for eth0.

If you want to know what all the options are, you may want to read
/usr/share/doc/initscripts-9.20.2/sysconfig.txt

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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Sewill
On Friday, July 15, 2011 02:48:53 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> I feel like I'm losing my mind.  Can someone confirm that this is
> supposed to work before I bugzilla this?
> 
> I am trying to get NetworkManager to ignore my wireless adapter (while
> still managing my Ethernet adapter and VPN connections).  I have created
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0:
> 
>DEVICE=wlan0
>TYPE=Wireless
>HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
>NM_CONTROLLED=no
> 


Does the following work?
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
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Re: Hard drive/Laptop swap - will fedora croak?

2011-07-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Gary Waters writes:


« HTML content follows »
I set up a Fedora 15 installation on a laptop with an  intel based chipset. I  
just got an AMD ( Turion ) chipset notebook. I assume swapping the hard drive  
will result in the fedora installation crashing? If such is the case, other  
than a fresh install, is there a way to do it which will work?


It's unlikely that any drastic actions will be needed. Fedora will boot just  
fine. The only situation where Fedora won't boot would be if you move a 64  
bit Fedora install onto a system with a 32 bit CPU, of course.


The most you will have to do is to reconfigure a few things. Fedora keeps  
stuff like network configuration settings associated for each device. When  
you boot the new hardware, Fedora will likely see a new network device, so  
you may need to refiddle your network settings. Audio might need some manual  
reconfiguration too.


X.org is of sufficiently robust shape that it will come up on any new  
hardware that it supports without any issues. Of course the video hardware  
in your new laptop must be supported by X.org. If you're using Nvidia's or  
AMD's binary blob drivers, all bets are off, who knows what they will do.


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Re: Hard drive/Laptop swap - will fedora croak?

2011-07-15 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 07/15/2011 05:31 PM, Gary Waters wrote:
I set up a Fedora 15 installation on a laptop with an  intel based 
chipset. I just got an AMD ( Turion ) chipset notebook. I assume 
swapping the hard drive will result in the fedora installation 
crashing? If such is the case, other than a fresh install, is there a 
way to do it which will work?




Usually the biggest problem (at least in my experience) is with sata 
drivers. The trick is to run mkinitrd and force it to include the 
correct module for the new motherboard (old one should be included by 
default, so there's practically no way to mess this up)


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Re: Hard drive/Laptop swap - will fedora croak?

2011-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/15/2011 08:31 PM, Gary Waters wrote:
> I set up a Fedora 15 installation on a laptop with an  intel based
> chipset. I just got an AMD ( Turion ) chipset notebook. I assume
> swapping the hard drive will result in the fedora installation crashing?
> If such is the case, other than a fresh install, is there a way to do it
> which will work?
> 
> Gary
> 
> 

  I suspect it will work unless you have a 64 bit kernel and the newer
on is only 32 bit.

  You may need to fiddle with networking again as the mac addresses
probably changed ...
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Hard drive/Laptop swap - will fedora croak?

2011-07-15 Thread Gary Waters


  
  
I set up a Fedora 15 installation on a laptop with an  intel based
chipset. I just got an AMD ( Turion ) chipset notebook. I assume
swapping the hard drive will result in the fedora installation
crashing? If such is the case, other than a fresh install, is there
a way to do it which will work?

Gary
  

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Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Digimer wrote:

>> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs,
>> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ?
>> 
>> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say,
>> where this is specified.
> 
> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.

As far as I can see, 70-persistent-net.rules just maps
each MAC address on a machine to an interface,
as also does ifcfg-ethX .

Neither seems to me to associate an interface, say eth1,
to a LAN, say 192.168.2.0 .

> 
http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B

I'll study that, thanks. 

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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/15/2011 02:34 PM, Vinny wrote:
> I do get window that ask for password, and I enter password, then a second
> window appears "Unable to authenticate to SMTP server.
> Bad authentication response from server"

Have you considered asking your email provider's tech support?
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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/15/2011 12:18 PM, james tate wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 03:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 07/13/2011 04:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> sure that you are using the same MUA and same authentication methods?
>>> ssl settings (STARTTLS or SSL on Port 465) are the same?
>> You might (as I do) have to use SMTPAUTH on Port 587.
> Joe, what is the exact command I would have to use ?

First, you check with your email provider to find out if the password is 
sent insecurely or encrypted and make sure what port it's using.  Then, 
you go through Edit->Account Settings->Outgoing Server (SMTP) then 
select your server and Edit.  Change the Port Number to the one you were 
told and set the various settings below it to match what you were told 
then click OK.  The first time you try to send, you'll get a pop-up box 
to put in your password, and there should be a checkbox to Save it.
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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:10:38 -0300
Ian Pilcher wrote:

> On 07/15/2011 05:58 PM, Tom H wrote:
> > Does NM ignore it if you add "ONBOOT=yes"? (Or "ONBOOT=no" if you want
> > to bring it up manually.)
> 
> Nope.  (I actually had ONBOOT=no in there.  I took it out in hopes that
> would help.)

I had same problem and simply turned off NetworkManager. I wanted to
use wlan0 as an access point (with hostapd), not a wi-fi client, but
every time I plugged in the USB dongle, NM would come along and grab
it and interfere with my hostapd setup.

I have never yet been able to leave NetworkManager enabled on any
of my systems. It always winds up screwing up something, and it
is vastly simpler to fix the problems by turning it off and
going back to network.
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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 07/15/2011 05:58 PM, Tom H wrote:
> Does NM ignore it if you add "ONBOOT=yes"? (Or "ONBOOT=no" if you want
> to bring it up manually.)

Nope.  (I actually had ONBOOT=no in there.  I took it out in hopes that
would help.)

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Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-15 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/15/2011 04:49 PM, James Bridge wrote:
> Using Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 I can only get updates manually, either
> with Yum or Software Update. That works fine but it is supposed to check
> for updates automatically and it doesn't. The options are set using
> "Software Updates" (note the final s!) and I have it set to check daily,
> for all updates. Nothing happens. Why not?


Me, too. And I've also got yum-updatesd running (in notify only mode).
It, too, never reports anything.

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Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-15 Thread James Bridge
Using Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 I can only get updates manually, either
with Yum or Software Update. That works fine but it is supposed to check
for updates automatically and it doesn't. The options are set using
"Software Updates" (note the final s!) and I have it set to check daily,
for all updates. Nothing happens. Why not?
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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread Vinny
From: james tate 
> 
On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping 
> > at asking for password because can't authenticate.
> > The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked 
> > several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15
> > any of you good people have some suggestion? Vinny.
> Are you using Thunderbird to send mail ?
> 
> I find when you send a email a window will open for your email password 
> and it is is hidden down behind any open window where you can't see it, 
> and your email won't send until your SMTP gets it's email password.
> -
> 
I do get window that ask for password, and I enter password, then a second 
window appears "Unable to authenticate to SMTP server.
Bad authentication response from server"

I am sending this email from the same computer using Kmail, however, I would 
like to go back to Evolution if it can be fixed.
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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Tom H
2011/7/15 Ian Pilcher :
> On 07/15/2011 05:08 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>
>> Can you confirm (iwconfig) that the device is indeed called wlan0?
>
> [ipilcher@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
> DEVICE=wlan0
> TYPE=Wireless
> HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
> NM_CONTROLLED=no

Does NM ignore it if you add "ONBOOT=yes"? (Or "ONBOOT=no" if you want
to bring it up manually.)
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Re: Remote Desktop in F15 & Gnome 3

2011-07-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 10:45 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> On 06/30/2011 10:24 PM, Andy Theuninck wrote:
> > I want to turn on desktop sharing, but the menu options listed in the
> > documentation no longer exist. This is the document I'm looking at:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Guide_-_Sharing_Your_Desktop
> 
> The preferences applet is still there - it's in the "Other" category in the
> applications menu, "Remote Desktop" (or just start typing "remote" in the menu
> view).
> 
> > Alternately, if there's a way to tweak /etc/sysconfig/vncservers to
> > use x0vncserver instead of Xvnc, that would probably accomplish what I
> > want. According to the man pages, the two programs take pretty much
> > identical arguments, but the vncserver wrapper script used by init
> > doesn't have any obvious options for switching backends.
> 
> The integrated gnome stuff uses the vino server.
> 
> Regards,
> Bryn.

I am assuming your talking about Gnome3, since there is no:
System->Preferences->Internet and Network->Remote Desktop
option on Gnome2.
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Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 07/15/2011 05:08 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
>Can you confirm (iwconfig) that the device is indeed called wlan0?
>
>Perhaps its a different name.
>

[ipilcher@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
DEVICE=wlan0
TYPE=Wireless
HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
NM_CONTROLLED=no

[ipilcher@localhost ~]$ ifconfig wlan0
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:14:12:C1:38
   inet addr:10.192.53.204  Bcast:10.192.55.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::223:14ff:fe12:c138/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:17347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:19046 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:10596012 (10.1 MiB)  TX bytes:3456668 (3.2 MiB)

[ipilcher@localhost ~]$ iwconfig wlan0
wlan0 IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"Red Hat Guest"
   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 
00:26:0B:16:34:54
   Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
   Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality=69/70  Signal level=-41 dBm
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:8  Invalid misc:409   Missed beacon:0

[ipilcher@localhost ~]$ nmcli dev list iface wlan0
GENERAL.DEVICE: wlan0
GENERAL.TYPE:   802-11-wireless
GENERAL.DRIVER: iwlagn
GENERAL.HWADDR: 00:23:14:12:C1:38
GENERAL.STATE:  connected
CAPABILITIES.CARRIER-DETECT:no
CAPABILITIES.SPEED: 54 Mb/s
WIFI-PROPERTIES.WEP:yes
WIFI-PROPERTIES.WPA:yes
WIFI-PROPERTIES.WPA2:   yes
WIFI-PROPERTIES.TKIP:   yes
WIFI-PROPERTIES.CCMP:   yes
AP1.SSID:   'HP85722C'
AP1.BSSID:  02:21:01:FD:3D:F8
AP1.MODE:   Ad-Hoc
AP1.FREQ:   2457 MHz
AP1.RATE:   11 MB/s
AP1.SIGNAL: 20
AP1.SECURITY:
AP1.ACTIVE: no
AP2.SSID:   'HPEEBEA3'
AP2.BSSID:  02:21:C1:12:13:0E
AP2.MODE:   Ad-Hoc
AP2.FREQ:   2457 MHz
AP2.RATE:   11 MB/s
AP2.SIGNAL: 27
AP2.SECURITY:
AP2.ACTIVE: no
AP3.SSID:   'SMK'
AP3.BSSID:  00:14:BF:B6:BF:B9
AP3.MODE:   Infrastructure
AP3.FREQ:   2437 MHz
AP3.RATE:   54 MB/s
AP3.SIGNAL: 25
AP3.SECURITY:   WPA2
AP3.ACTIVE: no
AP4.SSID:   'HP50116B'
AP4.BSSID:  02:29:A9:EC:12:50
AP4.MODE:   Ad-Hoc
AP4.FREQ:   2457 MHz
AP4.RATE:   11 MB/s
AP4.SIGNAL: 27
AP4.SECURITY:
AP4.ACTIVE: no
AP5.SSID:   'Cadec'
AP5.BSSID:  00:16:B6:2E:8C:28
AP5.MODE:   Infrastructure
AP5.FREQ:   2412 MHz
AP5.RATE:   54 MB/s
AP5.SIGNAL: 24
AP5.SECURITY:   WEP
AP5.ACTIVE: no
AP6.SSID:   'TOTAL'
AP6.BSSID:  D8:5D:4C:C2:AF:0C
AP6.MODE:   Infrastructure
AP6.FREQ:   2442 MHz
AP6.RATE:   54 MB/s
AP6.SIGNAL: 24
AP6.SECURITY:   WEP
AP6.ACTIVE: no
AP7.SSID:   'NALCO'
AP7.BSSID:  00:1D:71:09:B4:30
AP7.MODE:   Infrastructure
AP7.FREQ:   2412 MHz
AP7.RATE:   54 MB/s
AP7.SIGNAL: 19
AP7.SECURITY:   WPA WPA2 Enterprise
AP7.ACTIVE: no
AP8.SSID:   'IMarket'
AP8.BSSID:  00:02:6F:91:71:D9
AP8.MODE:   Infrastructure
AP8.FREQ:   2422 MHz
AP8.RATE:   54 MB/s
AP8.SIGNAL: 25
AP8.SECURITY:   WPA
AP8.ACTIVE: no
AP9.SSID:   'HP8BAF53'
AP9.BSSID:  02:25:05:D2:65:C9
AP9.MODE:   Ad-Hoc
AP9.FREQ:   2457 MHz
AP9.RATE:   11 MB/s
AP9.SIGNAL: 27
AP9.SECURITY:
AP9.ACTIVE: no
AP10.SSID:  'IMarket'
AP10.BSSID: 00:02:6F:91:71:D5
AP10.MODE:  Infrastructure
AP10.FREQ:  2417 MHz
AP10.RATE:  54 MB/s
AP10.SIGNAL:29
AP10.SECURITY:  WPA
AP10.ACTIVE:

Re: NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/15/2011 03:48 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:

> 
>DEVICE=wlan0
>TYPE=Wireless
>HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
>NM_CONTROLLED=no
> 
> Even after rebooting, however, NetworkManager is still taking control of
> wlan0.
> 
>

  Can you confirm (iwconfig) that the device is indeed called wlan0?

  Perhaps its a different name.

  gene/
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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate
On 07/15/2011 03:33 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 15:31 -0400, james tate wrote:
>> On 07/15/2011 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
 FC15

 How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.

 When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.

 I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
>>> It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
>>> Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
>>> the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
>>> gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
>> Patrick I can't find gnome-control-panel in the fc15 repos.
> It's gnome-control-center. Sorry, I keep getting that wrong.
>
> poc
>
Thanks for the help Patrick.
Ran gnome-control-center, and under /System/System Info/Default 
Applications I made the changes and it is working normal in Thunderbird 
now.
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NM_CONTROLLED=no not working

2011-07-15 Thread Ian Pilcher
I feel like I'm losing my mind.  Can someone confirm that this is
supposed to work before I bugzilla this?

I am trying to get NetworkManager to ignore my wireless adapter (while
still managing my Ethernet adapter and VPN connections).  I have created
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0:

   DEVICE=wlan0
   TYPE=Wireless
   HWADDR=00:23:14:12:C1:38
   NM_CONTROLLED=no

Even after rebooting, however, NetworkManager is still taking control of
wlan0.

So who is crazy, me or the computer?  :-|

Thanks!

(This Fedora 15 with NetworkManager-0.8.9997-5.git20110702.fc15.x86_64,
BTW.)

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Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/15/2011 03:09 PM, Digimer wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs,
>> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ?
>>
>> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say,
>> where this is specified.
> 
> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
> 

  And in some machines (if not changed elsewhere somehow) biosdevname
may be used - I believe it is now included in F15 ...


   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming

  gene
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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 15:10 -0400, james tate wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
> >> FC15
> >>
> >> How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.
> >>
> >> When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.
> >>
> >> I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
> > It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
> > Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
> > the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
> > gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.
> >
> > poc
> >
> In KDE it's Settings/Default Applications/Web Browser and my is set to 
> firefox,
> but it still won't open and use Firefox.
> 
> There is a execute file in /usr/bin/firefox
> 

To repeat: TBird is a *Gnome* app. It doesn't care about KDE settings.
Stupid but true.

poc

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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 15:31 -0400, james tate wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
> >> FC15
> >>
> >> How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.
> >>
> >> When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.
> >>
> >> I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
> > It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
> > Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
> > the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
> > gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.
> >
> > poc
> >
> Patrick I can't find gnome-control-panel in the fc15 repos.

It's gnome-control-center. Sorry, I keep getting that wrong.

poc

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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate
On 07/15/2011 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
>> FC15
>>
>> How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.
>>
>> When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.
>>
>> I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
> It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
> Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
> the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
> gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.
>
> poc
>
Patrick I can't find gnome-control-panel in the fc15 repos.
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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate
On 07/15/2011 03:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 04:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> sure that you are using the same MUA and same authentication methods?
>> ssl settings (STARTTLS or SSL on Port 465) are the same?
> You might (as I do) have to use SMTPAUTH on Port 587.
Joe, what is the exact command I would have to use ?
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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2011 04:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> sure that you are using the same MUA and same authentication methods?
> ssl settings (STARTTLS or SSL on Port 465) are the same?

You might (as I do) have to use SMTPAUTH on Port 587.
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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate
On 07/15/2011 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
>> FC15
>>
>> How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.
>>
>> When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.
>>
>> I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
> It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
> Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
> the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
> gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.
>
> poc
>
In KDE it's Settings/Default Applications/Web Browser and my is set to 
firefox,
but it still won't open and use Firefox.

There is a execute file in /usr/bin/firefox

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Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-15 Thread Digimer
On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs,
> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ?
> 
> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say,
> where this is specified.

It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.

http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B

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An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs,
eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ?

I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say,
where this is specified.

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Re: Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 14:13 -0400, james tate wrote:
> FC15
> 
> How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.
> 
> When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.
> 
> I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.

It's not a Thunderbird preference, it's a desktop preference. If you use
Gnome, look under the settings panel. If on KDE you still have to use
the Gnome settings since TBird is a Gnome app. In that case, run
gnome-control-panel from the Shell and look for Preferred Applications.

poc

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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2011 10:32 AM, Tim wrote:
> Hmmph...  Then goes ahead and does something that's likely to do so.
> Statements, like that, are similar to:  With all due respect...
> And:  I don't mean to be critical, but...

That's not how I read it.  It looked to me as though the OP was asking 
us our opinion of the article, especially when compared to the recent 
changes in Gnome.  The most important difference, IMO, is the fact that 
with Gnome, if you really don't like the changes or aren't interested in 
that particular kind of change, you can always try a different DE and 
probably find one that works the way you like.  If you get a computer 
with Windows 8 and it works the way the article describes, you have no 
choice if you stick with Windows.  Just as there are people who love 
Gnome 3, there will people who would love that kind of a GUI for 
Windows, and that's great.  And, of course, there are those who don't 
like them at first but will either learn to like them or at least to 
adapt to them and that's also fine.  In the long run, the Linux Desktop 
evolves, following Darwin's maxim.  Not, however, the way it's usually 
misquoted, but as originally written: "Survival of the fit."  (Survival 
of the fittest is neither what he wrote or intended.  If only the 
fittest survived and bred, few species would be able to survive long 
enough to become the fittest; being fit to survive is all it takes.) 
Thus, any DE that does what people need can survive in the Linux 
universe as long as there are people who like the way it works, and 
users are free to look around until they find the one that's best for 
them and if that article is right, that freedom may be the "killer app" 
that brings large numbers of average users away from the Dark Side.
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Re: Can't run Software Update since upgrade

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2011 10:18 AM, Alan Evans wrote:
> This same thing happened yesterday and I found that I could do the
> update from a terminal with yum update. So I guess this isn't an
> absolute show-stopper, but the GUI app ought to work, I think. How
> should I begin troubleshooting this (like where should I go to
> *actually*  get more details)?

I stopped using the Software Updater years ago.  It would work Just Fine 
to tell me I had updates, but when I tried to install them it would 
insist that there wasn't a network connection.  I have yumex installed 
and it works Just Fine.  (At one point, it too failed to find an 
existing network connection, but I just disabled the check.  It doesn't 
need to check, because I'd never try to use it if my DSL were down.)
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Re: Can't send email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate

On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote:

Hello,
I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping 
at asking for password because can't authenticate.
The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked 
several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15

any of you good people have some suggestion? Vinny.

Are you using Thunderbird to send mail ?

I find when you send a email a window will open for your email password 
and it is is hidden down behind any open window where you can't see it, 
and your email won't send until your SMTP gets it's email password.
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Getting Thunderbird to open Links in Email

2011-07-15 Thread james tate
FC15

How do I get thunderbird to select Firefox when opening links in Emails.

When clicking on Links in Emails nothing is happening.

I can't find in Thunderbird Preferences a way to select Firefox.
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Don't go wireless when wired is available...

2011-07-15 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
For some reason over the past week my F15 laptop has started pestering
me for the WPA2 key at work when I'm using my laptop.

The problem is that 1) it does it when I'm in the docking station and on
a wired connection and 2) I already have a WPA2 key setup for a
different wireless network at work that's present at the same time, but
to which the laptop's not trying to connect.

How do I, short of turning off wireless when I login while docked, tell
F15/Gnome3 to stop trying to connect to a wireless network? I want it to
give the wired connection preference and not try to go wireless as well.

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Re: Wireless adaptor DWL G-122 E1 /Fedora14 &Intel pentium(r)dual 3.00Ghz

2011-07-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:36 PM, JD  wrote:
> On 03/25/2011 08:45 AM, vicenc.melen...@dixieland.jazztel.es wrote:
>>
>> Thank you very much Terry.
>>
>> The content you ask for is (for two different adaptors):
>>
>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c0f D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122
>> Wireless Adapter(rev.E) [Ralink RT2870]
>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>> [Blai_isabel_Vicenc@localhost ~]$ ^C
>> [Blai_isabel_Vicenc@localhost ~]$ lsusb
>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2001:3a03 D-Link Corp. DWL-G132 (no firmware)
>> [Atheros AR5523]
>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>>
>> Quoting vicenc.melen...@dixieland.jazztel.es:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >   Dear users members,
>> >
>> >   I would like to use a wireless adaptor DWL G122 witha desktop
>> > machine (Intel (R) Pentium (R) D CPU 3.00 Ghz with memory 1001 MiB.
>> > Kernel 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686. GNOME 2.32.0
>> >
>> >   I have tried Ralink  r-2571w/rt2671 A B G network (rt73usb
>> > firmware  adaptors with no results.
>> >
>> >   Any help is welcome.
>> >
>> >   Kind regards
>> >
>> >   Vicenc Melendez
>> > --
>> > 2007 Jazztel - Jazz Telecom, S.A.U. http://www.jazztel.com
>> > Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es necesario hacerlo.
>>
>>
>> --
>> 2007 Jazztel - Jazz Telecom, S.A.U. http://www.jazztel.com
>> Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es necesario hacerlo.
>>
> Originally, you had mentioned:
>
>  >> I have tried Ralink  r-2571w/rt2671 A B G network (rt73usb firmware
> adaptors with no results.
>
> Now, you say one of your interfaces is
>
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c0f D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122
> Wireless Adapter(rev.E) [Ralink RT2870]
>
> The Ralink  rt-2870 is supported in kernel 2.6.35 and higher.
> I have tested it on a USB device with the rt-2870 chipset.
> The driver for this chipset is unstable and it locked  up my
> machine twice!. The Linux Wireless web page at
> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb
> says rt2870 is supported, which is true, but as I stated above, it is
> unstable as far as the rt2870
> chipset is concerned.
> I am running on the rt2860 mini-pci module, and is very well supported
> by the
> rt2800/rt2x00 drivers. Only problems I have with this mini-pci card are
> weak TX power, and poor Rx sensitivity.
>
> $ lsmod | grep rt2
> rt2800pci               6723  0
> rt2800lib              28134  1 rt2800pci
> rt2x00pci               4001  1 rt2800pci
> rt2x00lib              25300  3 rt2800pci,rt2800lib,rt2x00pci
>
>
> As far as
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2001:3a03 D-Link Corp. DWL-G132 (no firmware)
> [Atheros AR5523]
>
> "ar5523 is a driver to support old Atheros USB 802.11abg chipsets. Work
> is currently under developmen"    Per:
> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ar5523#ar5523
>
> Cheers,
>
> JD

How to get AR5523 based wireless card working in Fedora 14?

Do I need to compile new drivers from source? Is firmware missing?

Is the best way to use windows drivers via ndiswrapper and just ignore
linux based drivers for now?

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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2011 07:39 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote:
> Is he right and we're moving badly in the wrong direction (as in, an
> interface with a more traditional GUI feel would be a big winner?) or is
> competing with a similar look-and-feel as the default while providing
> lots of traditional-feeling alternatives a winning attitude?

Thank you for the link.  I've just passed it on to Jerry Pournelle, as I 
think he (and maybe his readers) will find it interesting.

I think what we have in the Gnome Shell is what happens when the devs on 
a big project find themselves controlled by people who believe that if 
it's new it must be better.  This, naturally, isn't always true any more 
than the opposite attitude of if it's new it must be bad.  Of course, 
with Linux, those of us who don't like the direction Gnome is going in 
are able to move to a different DE; in Windows, you won't have that 
choice, so we may find ourselves becoming more mainstream if Microsoft 
doesn't correct its current cranio-rectal insertion.
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Re: Closing lid of laptop hibernates the computer

2011-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2011 02:50 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Thanks, Suvayu. I have meanwhile installed xfce4-power-manager, but
> without success. In truth, my laptop sleeps or hibernates even when I
> select "Do nothing" when the lid closes (both for AC and Battery) in
> xfce4-power-manager. Any further ideas?

Sorry to come in so late, but I was in the hospital for 3 days.  If 
you're still having trouble, try the forums at http://www.xfce.org/. 
One of the regulars is a core developer for XFCE.
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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread James McKenzie
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>
>
> Am 15.07.2011 15:53, schrieb James McKenzie:
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>  wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, admin lewis wrote:
 Hi,
 where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
 thanks lewis.
>>>
>>> Instead posting it, report it to Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com
>>
>> If it truly is a Kernel bug, should it not be reported to the Kernel
>> folks?  If it is a bug with one of the kernels built by the project,
>> yep it should be reported to the Fedora bugzilla
>
> AFAIK the first bug-report should be for the fedora-kernel
> because a) this are patched kernels and b) redhat is very
> active upstream
>
> last but not least fedora users will first search on
> the fedora-bugzilla and this way find your bugreport
>
Thank you for the that answer.  Thus the report goes to Fedora's Bugzilla.

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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8? => choosing the fedora desktop

2011-07-15 Thread Steve Lindemann
Genes MailLists wrote:
>  So - lets choose the default desktop manager for fedora from among:
> 
>Gnome 3
>KDE
>XFCE
>LXDE
>? Other?
> 

...so, if we actually get a vote that counts, I'd say XFCE.

Of course, this is *my* personal opinion.  There were technical choices 
the Gnome team made that I have never been happy with, but until v3 the 
interface worked the way I wanted so I used it and now it doesn't so I 
don't.  I am  now looking at the other desktops and so far XFCE come 
closest *my* preferences.  Pick what you like, vote with your keyboard.

...new is not always better
...except when it is  8^/
...this time it wasn't  8^(
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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:53:39 -0700,
  James McKenzie  wrote:
> 
> If it truly is a Kernel bug, should it not be reported to the Kernel
> folks?  If it is a bug with one of the kernels built by the project,
> yep it should be reported to the Fedora bugzilla.

There are advantages to doing both. Especially if the bug is a regression
in the development kernel, getting attention upstream is helpful.
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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread g
On 07/15/2011 09:46 AM, Jatin K wrote:
> On Friday 15 July 2011 03:10 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>>
>>> '!' Solved my problem
>>>
>> Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you 
>> stated you were trying to accomplish in your first post.
>>
>> Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all 
>> others get dropped.
>>
> yes  and thats what I wanted , Only specified IP can ftp to the server
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which is not what you stated in your first post, which was;

}> I want to deny a particular IP (172.16.158.111) address in my network to
}> FTP on server (RHEL6), I'm trying to add the following[1][2] iptabls
}> rules on server  and getting error [3]


therefore, if you want to drop "IP (172.16.158.111)", you would use;


  [1] iptables -A INPUT -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
  [2] iptables -A INPUT -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 20 -j DROP

if you want to drop all except "IP (172.16.158.111)", you would use;

  [1] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
  [2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 20 -j DROP

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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.07.2011 15:53, schrieb James McKenzie:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, admin lewis wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
>>> thanks lewis.
>>
>> Instead posting it, report it to Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com
> 
> If it truly is a Kernel bug, should it not be reported to the Kernel
> folks?  If it is a bug with one of the kernels built by the project,
> yep it should be reported to the Fedora bugzilla

AFAIK the first bug-report should be for the fedora-kernel
because a) this are patched kernels and b) redhat is very
active upstream

last but not least fedora users will first search on
the fedora-bugzilla and this way find your bugreport




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Re: Software update has bugs

2011-07-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/14/2011 09:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> continue and the system asked me for a passwd authorization. I entered
> the only passwds that seemed possibly relevant and both were rejected

What password did it _ask_ for? Depending on what you're trying to do PolicyKit
(the component that handles authorisation for the updater services) may ask for
either the user password or the administrator (root) password.

I had a problem early on on f15 in gnome where polkit-gnome seemed to want the
password for a user other than the one logged into the graphical desktop but
this seemed to go away with updates.

Anyway, if the problem is reproducible with up-to-date packages it sounds like a
bug.

> I tried to use Gnome to do the same thing. When I searched for Get or
> Remove .. the only relevant application I was shown was KPackageKit.

KPackageKit is the KDE interface for PackageKit. The Gnome equivalents are in
the System section of the menu and are labelled "Add/Remove Software" and
"Software Update".

> Now I pressed my luck and ran another option called Software Update.
> Which attempted it said to find updates but failed. The same option
> under KVM also failed.

It's hard to say without knowing specific error messages but you could try
searching in bugzilla or via google for the specific messages that you saw.

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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread James McKenzie
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, admin lewis wrote:
>> Hi,
>> where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
>> thanks lewis.
>
> Instead posting it, report it to Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com

If it truly is a Kernel bug, should it not be reported to the Kernel
folks?  If it is a bug with one of the kernels built by the project,
yep it should be reported to the Fedora bugzilla.

James
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Re: How can I install F15 without a desktop environment

2011-07-15 Thread Mark W. Jeanmougin
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 23:19, John Wendel  wrote:
> I need to install F15 without Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE.  The target has
> 1 GB of flash for the filesystem. So how can I install F15 with X, but
> without a DE?

I always do my installs off the DVD. There's also a "minimal" install
that I use on my servers. It works well.

Then, you'd just "yum install" whatever to get X.

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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/15/2011 01:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, admin lewis wrote:
>> Hi,
>> where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
>> thanks lewis.
> 
> Instead posting it, report it to Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com

You should search in bugzilla first to see if someone else has reported the same
problem - if you're unsure then it does no harm to post a good description of
the problem to the list to see if someone recognises it.

There are some general guidelines for bug reporting in the fedoraproject wiki 
here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests

Which has some good links with good advice for writing effective bug reports in
the bugzilla cluture section:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests#Understanding_Bugzilla_Culture

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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 14:18 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:

> > I agree with you that Gnome2 is dead but someone has to explain why
> a
> > feature like holding the ALT key is necessary to power off in the
>  User
> > Menu. It seems to me there was room in the original list for a Power
> off
> > option.
> >
> > I think that there is general agreement among the majority of F15
> users
> > other than the Gnome developers that there are aspects of Gnome3
> that
> > are just plain screwy.
> This is definitely not one of those things that should exist.  Maybe
> the team feels that a new user would not understand what 'power off'
> means.  I would find that insulting as a new Linux user coming from
> the other world.  I think this is the wrong way to deal with this.  I
> have not had the time to look at Gnome3 yet, but this makes me less
> likely to do so from an engineering/quality assurance/user experience
> view point.  BTW, do they have a 'do you really want to do this'
> dialog or does Gnome3 go immediately into power down mode?
> 
> 
You have the usual dialog about what you really want too do.
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Re: Software update has bugs

2011-07-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 20:05 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
> On 07/14/2011 01:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > Under KDM I asked for software updates and got an option called Get and
> > Remove Software. I ran it and chose to add the Content group. I was
> > shown the three documents I could add. One on Python, one on Java and
> > one on Linux drivers. I chose to install the first and third. Processing
> > started until I  was told another  dependency must be installed. I said
> > continue and the system asked me for a passwd authorization. I entered
> > the only passwds that seemed possibly relevant and both were rejected
> >
> > Ok, I started again . At the place where it asked me for a passwd
> > previously it stated that I had not entered an authorizing passwd and
> > quit. So I could not proceed further.
> >
> > I tried to use Gnome to do the same thing. When I searched for Get or
> > Remove .. the only relevant application I was shown was KPackageKit.
> > When I ran that I was given the option to Get and Remove Software, which
> > I ran, entered the passwd which should work and it did.
> >
> > Now I pressed my luck and ran another option called Software Update.
> > Which attempted it said to find updates but failed. The same option
> > under KVM also failed.
> >
> > However, in Gnome under Software Tools the Software Update application
> > succeeds.
> >
> > Have other people fond the  same bug or am I going crazy again?
> 
> Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap spread 
> over yum.  Save yourself some pain and use yum directly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 

I agree with your philosophy. But this all is supposed to be the desktop
of our future. So at least even it is screwy it is supposed to work. Do
these applications work for the rest of you? If they do why am I having
such trouble using them.

I also apologize for calling KDE two separate incorrect names.
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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.07.2011 12:24, schrieb admin lewis:
> Hi,
> where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
> thanks lewis.

the same as for all other bugs
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/



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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.07.2011 11:46, schrieb Jatin K:
> On Friday 15 July 2011 03:10 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> '!' Solved my problem
>>
>> Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you 
>> stated you were trying to accomplish in your first post.
>>
>> Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all 
>> others get dropped.
>>
> yes  and thats what I wanted , Only specified IP can ftp to the server

why do you not say this at the begin

sorry, but first open a port and after that drop all except
one ip is a really ugly style no one should do in production

why do you not simply open the port only for the ip you want?
and this way you can open fro 2, 3, 4 IPs later
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s source-ip --dport 21 -j ACCEPT



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Re: kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, admin lewis wrote:
> Hi,
> where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
> thanks lewis.

Instead posting it, report it to Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com

poc

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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:18:40 +0930
Tim wrote:

> Over time, *what* did the automounting has changed.  Somewhere along the
> way HAL did it, and some of those other desktops didn't appear to make
> use of it.

And now HAL is a dinosaur and if you try to ask about using it,
people look at you like you have lobsters crawling out of you ears
(FYI: udev is now the king).

I love the way subsystems come and go like cosmology theories.
One day a theory will be hailed as the one true explanation for
the entire universe, the next day it will be scoffed at as a
more "elegant" theory replaces it. (And none of them had any
way to be tested for validity :-).
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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 15.07.2011, James McKenzie wrote: 

> If you even THINK that the current breed of developers CARE about what 
> the user base wants/needs, you are living in dream-land.

As you mentioned before, all is about choices. If there's no interest in what 
the user base needs, well, the user base will move away, resulting in less and 
less feedback,
which lets developing get more and more difficult. Bugs remain undiscovered, 
features get less testing,
and so on. 

In case of Gnome 3, I guess it it won't collect much new users over from 
Wind*ws or Apple 
related systems. Think logically: those who try will probably have a great 
optical experience,
but when things are unstable, unreliable and buggy and you have work to be 
done, you'll quickly move away
and blame "the difficult Linux" or whatever for the bad experience. Not to 
mention what such a user will
write if anybody is asking how Gnome 3 can be an alternative to let's say 
Wind*ws 7, and how many users
are just too busy to try it by themselves after a lot of negative publicity...

I for myself have been a big Gnome fan over a lot of years, and have been using 
it both at home and at work.
I also have been a big LXDE and xmonad fan, which runs on all of my laptops. 
Not a big thing for me,
I'll drop F15, and when F16 comes out, I'll stick with LXDE. It simply works 
and does not want to convince some
Wind*ws users that Linux is the better choice...




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Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-15 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> I see the sense in pushing the boundaries for high end computing.  I
>> don't see the sense in making low end computing require high end
>> hardware.  What's low end computing?  Email, web browsing, not playing
>> video games.  It's just gross inefficiency to require a 4 GHz computer
>> to do that.

James McKenzie:
> I agree with this comment.  You should not need a multi-core system just 
> to read mail and browse the web.  Adding a high end desktop system to 
> this is aggravating and a nuisance.  That is why some folks recommend 
> the 'lower end' windowing systems that do the basic things.

I think it's getting close to the point where the default desktop for
Fedora ought not to be Gnome, and the flashier desktops ought to be the
additional try them out options, rather than the lightweight ones.

> I've seen people state that Gnome is needed to automount drives.
> Never found that to be the case when I was running RedHat 7/8 or 9.

Over time, *what* did the automounting has changed.  Somewhere along the
way HAL did it, and some of those other desktops didn't appear to make
use of it.

Likewise, when I tried using a lightweight desktop, some time ago, I got
no sound.  Because the console kit helper that assigned hardware to a
user wasn't part of that desktop's equation.

It seems to have got to the point that to use new Linux, you need a new
computer.  That does rather preclude new users, who will get a new
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Re: P2020 (or PPC support ) for 2.6.32+ kernel in Fedora

2011-07-15 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:23:58 +0530
Abhay Vikash  wrote:
> For the later version of Fedora (13 and above ..) which are based on
> higher version of Linux kernel,  Fedora release engineering team no
> longer manages PPC releases.
> 
> We want to use Fedora 13 (so that we can have Linux 2.6.32+) , can we
> get the stable PPC support in this ?

No. Fedora 13 is EOL anyway.

Some people are still working on Fedora PPC, see
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC
They have prepared an installable version of Fedora 15, although the
tree hasn't changed since May.

Looks like the active development is in the rawhide tree, i.e., they're
preparing for Fedora 16.
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kernel bug

2011-07-15 Thread admin lewis
Hi,
where I have to post for a kernel bug ?
thanks lewis.


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P2020 (or PPC support ) for 2.6.32+ kernel in Fedora

2011-07-15 Thread Abhay Vikash
Hi ,
>From the web , I learnt that ,the latest Fedora release(
http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/releases/) which has active supports of
 PPC architecture from Fedora release engineering  team is Fedora12 which is
based on Linux kernel 2.6.31.5-127  .

For the later version of Fedora (13 and above ..) which are based on higher
version of Linux kernel,  Fedora release engineering team no longer manages
PPC releases.


We want to use Fedora 13 (so that we can have Linux 2.6.32+) , can we get
the stable PPC support in this ?


Regards
Abhay
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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 15 July 2011 03:10 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>
>
> >
> > '!' Solved my problem
> >
>
> Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you 
> stated you were trying to accomplish in your first post.
>
> Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all 
> others get dropped.
>
yes  and thats what I wanted , Only specified IP can ftp to the server




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Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-15 Thread James Hogarth
>
> '!' Solved my problem
>

Really? Because what you have there is the opposite of that which you stated
you were trying to accomplish in your first post.

Now that IP is the only IP that can access your FTP server and all others
get dropped.
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