Re: syslog daemon facilty
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:27:21 -0600 Santiago Enrique Lemus Martínez wrote: > use > tail /var/log/messages yes, I konw, I can let daemon facilty logging on messages or add it tolog on daemon.log; my question is: why to not have daemon syslogging on a different file like on debian distro families? This is an RFE and should be files on bugzilla as such, IMHO. thnx, anyway ) m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 07:03 PM, Digimer wrote: <> > I think g was talking about some corolation between the network card's > physical location on the motherboard and the 'ethX' name. correct. > Until recently, there was no reliable way to determine this. In the most > recent Fedora 15, an attempt is made to provide a mapping. This method > mostly does away with the traditional 'ethX' naming though. and hopefully, in future it will be worked out. <> >> I don't see how this differs from the previous question. > > I don't either. :) bingo. see my reply to same your reply is to. <> > This may or may not help; > > http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/DHCP_on_an_RPM-based_OS either way, it is a good and informative read. in fact, from looking at your index page, there is a lot of good info at your site. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 06:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > g wrote: > >> so, to op, Timothy Murphy, >> >> do you wish to know; >> >> 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an >> ip address? > > I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX . http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap9sec90.html which is starts from; http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/file-netfunc.html This chapter deals with all the basic files usually text files related to TCP/IP networking.It's very important to know the configurations files related to TCP/IP networking, so that you can edit and configure the files if necessary. Remember that our server doesn't have an Xwindow interface to configure files via graphical interface. Even if you use a GUI in your daily activities it is important to know how to configure network in text mode. The following sections describe the basic TCP/IP configuration files. >> 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an >> ethx position? > > That is an interesting question. in addition; http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap8sec88.html You can use Linux as a gateway between two Ethernet networks. In that case, you might have two Ethernet cards on your server. To eliminate problems at boot time, the Linux kernel doesn't detect multiple cards automatically. If you happen to have two or more cards, you should specify the parameters of the cards in the lilo.conf file for a monolithic kernel or in the conf.modules file for a modularized kernel. The following are problems you may encounter with your network cards. <> >> 3- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface >> card/chipset] to an ip address? > > I'm not sure what you mean by the _order_ of the mapping? > > My guess is that in the absence of any action by the user > which NIC is assigned to eth0 and which to eth1 (etc) > is determined by the position of the NICs in the PCI device table? > But I'd be interested to know the answer to this. correct. if you have an 'onboard chipset' and 'pci cards', 'pci cards' will take precedence over 'onboard chipset'. <> > I don't see how this differs from the previous question. > >> 5- none of above? > > I think my question was slightly different to any of the above. actually, i was taking basic of your 1st post and throwing out possible variations of what you might have meant by the nebulous. :) a lot of informative information can be found at; http://tldp.org/index.html their searches are run via google and a lot of what you are asking about can be found there. they also have a nice wiki; http://wiki.tldp.org/ <> > Also ifconfig contains http://www.google.com/cse?cx=017644269519104757279%3Agm62gtzaoky&q=ifconfig&sa=go <> > http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B >> is a good read. > > I did look at this, but it did not seem relevant to my problem. as i said, "is a good read". ;) a lot of '<>' trimming is because a lot of what you are stating is covered in 'tldp' links. a few more links to info; http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/ http://www.networkworld.com/ http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html when you get tired of all the reading links, you can check this link; http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/ happy reading. hth. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 06:23 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 07/16/2011 11:32 AM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> <> > >>> If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. >> >> now you really are guessing. > >> now, guess where. ;) > > LOL glad you enjoyed it. i was grinning when i wrote. your reply gave me a good chuckle. seems his '07/16/2011 06:04 PM' post shows there was a whole lot of guessing going on with replies. at least we all now know for sure what he was wanting to know. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15
Hi, Thanks, can you/someone elaborate a bit ? what should I do to get mail with IMAP? rgs, kevin On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 07/16/2011 05:56 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: >> Hello, >> Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? >> >> I saw that for previous versions of Evolution there was a plugin called >> evolution-brutus plugin - for exchange 5.5 server >> but from what I found, this plugin is not available for fedora 15. >> >> I also tried with thunderbird, but I did not find out how. >> >> I want to add that I don't need to sync a calander, only to read mail. >> another thing is, a solution which will enable me to only read mail >> (and not send) is also >> good for me. >> >> >> >> Rgs, >> Kevin > > > IMAP > > -- > -- Steve > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
> You mean something like the Sixth Sense technology? And there I thought I was thought of as living in LaLaLand and imagining impossible things, and the destruction of western society. Turns out, someone's already built it. :D Whenever trying to set up a computer (device), I'm convinced that someone else has already tried what I want to do - it's just a matter of finding a report of it... :) This proves it to the extreme. -- Greetz, Roelof Kusters aka Ben The internet isn't a highway, it's a swamp: the more you surf, the more it draws you in. http://my.opera.com/bentrein -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: recent 64-bit kernel vs. wireless
Elliott Chapin wrote: > With kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64 my wireless (broadcom) is not > activated. I'll provide dmsg or other data upon request. > > TIA, > E. Are you using the wl driver from RPMFusion or did you use b43-fwcutter? If it's the former, respond with the output of: rpm -q kmod-wl rpm -q akmod-wl dmesg | grep wl If it's the latter, respond with the output of: dmesg | grep b43 If you're not sure, go ahead and do all of the above plus: lspci -vvnn -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
On 7/16/11 1:25 PM, JB wrote: > Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > >> Change is gonna happen. And it's gonna destroy the status quo. >> If you ask me, it's very urgent that that happens, because - next to a >> whole new - perhaps Matrix like - approach to social interaction, it will >> make room for other technologies too. >> ... > Regarding the social interaction that the "change" will bless us with ... > > Fedora users after SELinux, GNOME 3, and systemd treatment. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015034/Owling-new-planking-New-crouching-craze-springs-internet.html They don't like it. That is, again, their problem. The days when Linux was inherently secure by obsurity are coming to an end. What do you want do when that happens? I, for one, want things to remain secure. SELinux is the ONLY approved method that I know of that can make an entire system secure as possible. > >> ... >>> What about the privacy of those "clouds" ? >> ... > R. Stallman, "clouds", security, privacy, law. > > http://www.searchenginejournal.com/stallmans-cloud-concerns-fight-for-laws- > or-against-technology/26503/ Until the United States Congress revokes the U.S.A. P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act your information that leaves your computer is just about public knowledge to the U.S. Justice Department. They have a 'secret' court system and can ask for a warrant for just about any reason at any time. Interesting how Constitutional lawyers have not brought challenges of all types against this overarching and power grabbing law. In any case, we are the ones that have to remember what we say on the Internet is now a matter of public record and can be used against us by those who should be there to protect us. James -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Application names -
On 16/07/11 19:25, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/16/2011 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> I would prefer to change such listings to the true >> application names that I recognize, in this case xsane rather >> than Scanner Tool. Is there a file I can fix that in? > You didn't specify, but I'll presume you're using Gnome. The menu > editor is alacarte and you should find it under System->Preferences. If > it's not there, it's easy to install. Once you have it, you can change > the name in the menu to whatever you want. To avoid confusion I intentionally left that out. I have used XFCE for a long time but alacarte was what I wanted. I had to yum install it. It makes changing those application names in the menu simple. Thanks for the tip. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
On 7/15/11 4:55 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > I for myself have been a big Gnome fan over a lot of years, and have > been using it both at home and at work. I also have been a big LXDE > and xmonad fan, which runs on all of my laptops. Not a big thing for > me, I'll drop F15, and when F16 comes out, I'll stick with LXDE. It > simply works and does not want to convince some Wind*ws users that > Linux is the better choice... Heinz: I agree with this. This is why I keep on harping on Windows. It has NOT worked properly since the 2.x days (and YES I do go back that far) and each version introduces more and more 'back flips' of things you have to do to get the job done. I love the fact that the system has to be locked down so tight it squeaks to keep the 'bad guys' out. Most of the systems I work with have not just one but TWO anti-virus systems. Every mail system in the world that touches a Windows system has to have anti-virus installed in case the system is infected, and so on. The other thing that I love about Linux is that there is usually more than one way to get the job done. Just is that the kernel developers have been infected with this 'got to include the kitchen sink' thinking as well. Makes it hell when you have to build a custom kernel to get it be within the reference monitor version of things. Anyway, let's see who sues who firstShould be interesting to see the hordes of lawyers going at each other. James -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
On 7/15/11 6:31 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 14:18 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > >>> I agree with you that Gnome2 is dead but someone has to explain why >> a >>> feature like holding the ALT key is necessary to power off in the >> User >>> Menu. It seems to me there was room in the original list for a Power >> off >>> option. >>> >>> I think that there is general agreement among the majority of F15 >> users >>> other than the Gnome developers that there are aspects of Gnome3 >> that >>> are just plain screwy. >> This is definitely not one of those things that should exist. Maybe >> the team feels that a new user would not understand what 'power off' >> means. I would find that insulting as a new Linux user coming from >> the other world. I think this is the wrong way to deal with this. I >> have not had the time to look at Gnome3 yet, but this makes me less >> likely to do so from an engineering/quality assurance/user experience >> view point. BTW, do they have a 'do you really want to do this' >> dialog or does Gnome3 go immediately into power down mode? >> >> > You have the usual dialog about what you really want too do. You know I expected that... James -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates
On 07/16/2011 05:39 PM, James Bridge wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? >>> >>> Works just fine here. >>> >>> Rahul >> >> Well I join those for whom it does nor work. I was told earlier that the >> automatic update only works for security updates and it is actually >> automatic. That is it does not ask if you want to update. >> >> Is any of this true? >> -- > > I have just run "Software Updates". There are three options; I have them > set to check daily, to install all updates (as opposed to security > updates) automatically and not to do it using mobile broadband (this is > a desktop anyway). I never see a window pop up and ask if I want to > update _unless_ I go to either Software Updates or Software Update and > start the check manually. Then I almost always get a list of things to > do, sometimes as many as 50 packages, depending how long since I last > checked. So the machine is certainly not updating automatically. > > FWIW, I don't think an invisible update process would be desirable. Is > that what "automatic" means? > > So far as I know, I am running Fedora 15 x86_64 with no modifications. > There must be a config file somewhere: does anyone know what it is > called? And for a daily check, when should the check happen - at first > boot up or at a particular time of day? If the latter, what happens if > the computer is turned off then? If the check is set for midnight, mine > would never actually be running. That might explain a lot! I'm pretty sure that my system is not updating correctly either. I have not seen an alert pop up on my screen since I upgraded from F13 to F14 using preupgrade for the second time on Sun Jul 10. Here's a line from my daily log. I've been looking at a continuing notice of a file needing to be updated on my computer but I could never get the file to install because of a missing dependency. Last night I decided to run the preupdate program again. I ran it before and thought that it had correctly upgraded my computer from F13 to F14 but it appears the the upgrade did not succeed entirely. I think it's done correctly now. No more notice of a file needing to be updated. I just tried: [root@mushroom ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit Found 15 installed debuginfo package(s) Enabling fedora-debuginfo: Fedora 13 - i386 - Debug Enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree - Debug Enabling rpmfusion-free-updates-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Updates Debug Enabling rpmfusion-free-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Debug Enabling updates-debuginfo: Fedora 13 - i386 - Updates - Debug Enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree What I see troubles me. It appears to still be pointing to the old F13 repositories. Maybe this is what is wrong with my installation as well as for the OP. [root@mushroom ~]# uname -a Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.35.13-92.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat May 21 17:33:09 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux When I reboot the machine it claims to be F14 on the progress screen. There must be a configuration file somewhere that is setting the $releasever variable to F13 instead of F14. Could this effect the auto updater too? -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org In a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today. ** To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it. To mess up an MS Windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -- Signature shamelessly copied from: Jatin Khatri & geleem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Question about the boost package in Fedora
Hi, I see that a few of the examples are missing from the boost package available in the official Fedora repositories. Do I need to install any package to get these? e.g. I could not find the first.cpp example from program_options. The docs say they should be under libs/program_options/example. Any ideas? PS: I also found the boost-doc package is missing the boost graphic and the style sheets for the pages. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Application names -
On 07/16/2011 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would prefer to change such listings to the true > application names that I recognize, in this case xsane rather > than Scanner Tool. Is there a file I can fix that in? You didn't specify, but I'll presume you're using Gnome. The menu editor is alacarte and you should find it under System->Preferences. If it's not there, it's easy to install. Once you have it, you can change the name in the menu to whatever you want. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Application names -
I checked to make certain the HP scanner would work with F-15. It works as expected once xsane is installed. I looked in the menu and couldn't find xsane, not that it matters, I have always started it from the command line out of habit. It took me a few seconds to try "Scanner Tool" which brings up xsane. I would prefer to change such listings to the true application names that I recognize, in this case xsane rather than Scanner Tool. Is there a file I can fix that in? Bob -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Software update has bugs
On 07/16/2011 08:25 AM, nomnex wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:05:35 -0700 > John Wendel wrote: > >> Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap >> spread over yum. Save yourself some pain and use yum directly. > I like the Yum extender project. It is not a layer of crap. > > https://fedorahosted.org/yumex/ > Well, I loaded yumex and poked at it. I have to agree, it looks like a well crafted, useful tool. I think I'll keep it. Thanks for the tip. Regards, John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > > > > > > > Works just fine here. > > > > Rahul > > Well I join those for whom it does nor work. I was told earlier that the > automatic update only works for security updates and it is actually > automatic. That is it does not ask if you want to update. > > Is any of this true? > -- I have just run "Software Updates". There are three options; I have them set to check daily, to install all updates (as opposed to security updates) automatically and not to do it using mobile broadband (this is a desktop anyway). I never see a window pop up and ask if I want to update _unless_ I go to either Software Updates or Software Update and start the check manually. Then I almost always get a list of things to do, sometimes as many as 50 packages, depending how long since I last checked. So the machine is certainly not updating automatically. FWIW, I don't think an invisible update process would be desirable. Is that what "automatic" means? So far as I know, I am running Fedora 15 x86_64 with no modifications. There must be a config file somewhere: does anyone know what it is called? And for a daily check, when should the check happen - at first boot up or at a particular time of day? If the latter, what happens if the computer is turned off then? If the check is set for midnight, mine would never actually be running. That might explain a lot! -- James Bridge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
Am 16.07.2011 20:24, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
>> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the
>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
>
> These establish a correspondence between the interfaces
> and the MAC addresses of the NICs
yes, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rule do this
> And ifcfg-ethX sets up a correspondence between MAC addresses
> and IP addresses of the NICs,
> in my case eth1 -> 192.168.2.2 .
i would NOT use HWADDR in ifcfg-ethX becasue it is
useless and if you want to change the devices
with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules you
have always to look at ifcfg-ethX
DEVICE=ethX is enough in ifcfg-ethX
> It would be possible to deduce from this that eth1 corresponds
> to the subnet 192.168.2.0 .
> But dhcpd does not appear to make this deduction.
if you want really control what dhcpd provides
you have to set MAC->IP paris in dhcpd.conf
host whatever {
hardware ethernet 00:90:3E:C8:D0:3C;
fixed-address 192.168.1.7;
}
> If I might ask, are you running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ?
> Is anybody running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ?
> If so, I would be very interested to see your dhcpd.conf
> and ifcfg-ethX .
>
> I should say that dhcpd ran (and is running) perfectly
> under CentOS-5.6 , but not under CentOS-6
this here is dhcpd under Fedora 15 and works the same way
like 10 years ago - i guess you did not realize that
"dhcpd.conf" is in recent releases located under
"/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" and not directly in /etc/
and playing the whole time with a ignored config-file
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
IPADDR=192.168.1.2
NETWORK=192.168.1.0
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
TYPE=Ethernet
BOOTPROTO=static
ONBOOT=yes
NM_CONTROLLED=no
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=no
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
authoritative;
ddns-update-style none;
ddns-updates off;
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 259200;
log-facility local7;
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option domain-name "rhsoft.net";
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.2;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option smtp-server 192.168.1.2;
option pop-server 192.168.1.2;
option ntp-servers 192.168.1.2;
option time-servers 192.168.1.2;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
range 192.168.1.150 192.168.1.200;
}
host drucker {
hardware ethernet 00:17:A4:6E:2E:94;
fixed-address 192.168.1.10;
}
host telefon {
hardware ethernet 00:0E:08:DD:9C:FD;
fixed-address 192.168.1.15;
}
host drucker-eth {
hardware ethernet 00:17:A4:6E:2E:95;
fixed-address 192.168.1.14;
}
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no sound on cf15 but yes system sound
I just installed FC15 with the latest updates. I am using M-Audio audiofile 2494. I get the system notifications sound but none of the audio or video applications produces sound. I tried using alsamixe and considered various suggestions I read on these lists but still don't have sound.. When I try system settings > Multimedia and click on "test sound" button, the reply I get is that the sound card does not work and it seems that it can not be detected by pulseaudio or various other applications. Thanks in advance for any help. zoran -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 01:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > My problem basically is the error message > > alfred dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (no IPv4 addresses). > alfred dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth1. If this is not what > alfred dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet declaration > alfred dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment > alfred dhcpd:to which interface eth1 is attached. ** > alfred dhcpd: > alfred dhcpd: > alfred dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces! > maybe you need to edit: /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd and put DHCPDARGS="eth1" so dhcpd listen in interface eth1 or by example DHCPDARGS="eth0 eth1" if you need more interfaces served by dhcpd, adjust them as necessary Gabrielo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > > Change is gonna happen. And it's gonna destroy the status quo. > If you ask me, it's very urgent that that happens, because - next to a > whole new - perhaps Matrix like - approach to social interaction, it will > make room for other technologies too. > ... Regarding the social interaction that the "change" will bless us with ... Fedora users after SELinux, GNOME 3, and systemd treatment. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015034/Owling-new-planking-New-crouching-craze-springs-internet.html > ... > > What about the privacy of those "clouds" ? > ... R. Stallman, "clouds", security, privacy, law. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/stallmans-cloud-concerns-fight-for-laws- or-against-technology/26503/ JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > Use the following fetchmail configuration as a template. Replace all > USERNAME with your unix user account name, all PASSWORD with the password > for that IMAP account, all IMAPUSER with the IMAP username, all MAILHOST > with the IMAP serverhostname and finally all MBOXPATH your mbox (absolute) > filenames. Thanks, but see below. > --- BEGIN CONFIG --- > > set postmaster "USERNAME" > set bouncemail > set no spambounce > set softbounce > set properties "" > set no showdots > > poll MAILHOST with proto IMAP > user 'IMAPUSER' there with password 'PASSWORD' is 'USERNAME' here > options keep fetchall ssl mda "formail -c >> /MBOXPATH/inbox" > folder INBOX > > poll MAILHOST with proto IMAP > user 'IMAPUSER' there with password 'PASSWORD' is 'USERNAME' here > options keep fetchall ssl mda "formail -c >> /MBOXPATH/sent" > folder INBOX.Sent > > --- END CONFIG --- I couldn't get it to work with exchange. I'm told Microsoft is holding up IMAP requests. I did get it to work with cableone. The relevant account is a thin wrapper on gmail. I have the mail I want, sort of. I had to hit forward rather a lot. So all my messages are wrapped in forwarding boilerplate. Is there a convenient way I can unwrap them? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 02:24 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Digimer wrote: > >> On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs, >>> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ? >>> >>> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say, >>> where this is specified. >> >> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. > > These establish a correspondence between the interfaces > and the MAC addresses of the NICs. > And ifcfg-ethX sets up a correspondence between MAC addresses > and IP addresses of the NICs, > in my case eth1 -> 192.168.2.2 . > > It would be possible to deduce from this that eth1 corresponds > to the subnet 192.168.2.0 . > But dhcpd does not appear to make this deduction. > > If I might ask, are you running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ? > Is anybody running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ? > If so, I would be very interested to see your dhcpd.conf > and ifcfg-ethX . > > I should say that dhcpd ran (and is running) perfectly > under CentOS-5.6 , but not under CentOS-6. I have not yet moved my dhcpd servers to CentOS 6. Actually, nothing outside the lab uses EL6. :) -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com Freenode handle: digimer Papers and Projects: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org "At what point did we forget that the Space Shuttle was, essentially, a program that strapped human beings to an explosion and tried to stab through the sky with fire and math?" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 02:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> g wrote:
>
>> so, to op, Timothy Murphy,
>>
>> do you wish to know;
>>
>> 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an
>> ip address?
>
> I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX .
You are right. Either by 'IPADDR=...' or 'BOOTPROTO="dhcp"' and then
that ethX will get an IP from the DHCP server.
>> 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an
>> ethx position?
>
> That is an interesting question.
> I see that in CentOS-6 there is a file
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> which matches interface (ethX) to MAC address.
> But this file does not seem to be present in CentOS-5.6 .
>
> I assume that in CentOS-5.6 the match is set in ifcfg-ethX ;
> but I'm not sure which of the two is dominant in CentOS-6.
In EL5 (CentOS 5.x), the only place to do the mapping was using the
HWADDR= setting in the 'ifcfg-ethX' file. In recent Fedora's and in EL6
(CentOS 6.x), it is *also* set in the udev file. I suspect that you
could forgo the 'HWADDR' entry in the ifcfg-ethX files, and let udev be
the sole config location, but I've not tried this. I always keep them
both set.
>> 3- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface
>> card/chipset]
>> to an ip address?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by the _order_ of the mapping?
> My guess is that in the absence of any action by the user
> which NIC is assigned to eth0 and which to eth1 (etc)
> is determined by the position of the NICs in the PCI device table?
> But I'd be interested to know the answer to this.
I think g was talking about some corolation between the network card's
physical location on the motherboard and the 'ethX' name. Until
recently, there was no reliable way to determine this. In the most
recent Fedora 15, an attempt is made to provide a mapping. This method
mostly does away with the traditional 'ethX' naming though.
>> 4- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface
>> card/chipset]
>> to an ethx position?
>
> I don't see how this differs from the previous question.
I don't either. :)
>> 5- none of above?
>
> I think my question was slightly different to any of the above.
> I was asking how the connection between an interface (ethX)
> and a subnet (192.168.2.0) was, or could be, established,
> since that seems to be what dhcpd wants before it starts.
DHCP requests go out on 255.255.255.255 iirc. Regardless, you do not
need to specify anything when requesting an IP address from a DHCP
server, beyond telling ifcfg-ethX to use DHCP in the first place.
> My problem basically is the error message
>
> alfred dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (no IPv4 addresses).
> alfred dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth1. If this is not what
> alfred dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet declaration
> alfred dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
> alfred dhcpd:to which interface eth1 is attached. **
> alfred dhcpd:
> alfred dhcpd:
> alfred dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
>
h, you're trying to configure a DHCP server itself! I see.
This may or may not help;
http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/DHCP_on_an_RPM-based_OS
As for which interfaces are used to listen for requests, take a boo at
this part from the DHCP daemon's man page (man dhcpd):
===
The names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should listen for
broadcasts may be specified on the command line. This should be done on
systems where dhcpd is unable to identify non-broadcast interfaces,
but should not be required on other systems. If no interface names
are specified on the command line dhcpd will identify all network
interfaces which are up, eliminating non-broadcast interfaces if
possible, and listen for DHCP broadcasts on each interface.
===
> It seems that dhcpd requires that a connection should have been established
> between eth1 and the subnet 192.168.2.0 _before_ dhcpd starts.
>
> I have a subnet declaration for the subnet 192.168.2.0
> in /etc/dhcpd.conf :
>
> subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
>
> authoritative;
>
> # --- default gateway
> option routers 192.168.2.1;
> option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
>
> # option nis-domain "gayleard.com";
> option domain-name "gayleard.com";
> option domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220;
>
> range 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.250;
> range dynamic-bootp 192.168.2.128 192.168.2.254;
>
> host alfred {
> hardware 00:1B:21:AB:C9:4C;
> fixed-address 192.168.2.2;
> }
> ...
> }
>
>
> Also ifconfig contains
>
> eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1B:21:AB:C9:4C
> inet addr:192.168.2.2 Bcast
Re: syslog daemon facilty
use tail /var/log/messages 2011/7/16 Maurizio Marini > One of the first thing u note coming from debian, is that tailing for > daemon doesn't tail anything :) > I wonder why redhat never used /var/log/daemon.log ad syslog daemon > facility; this is not an issue of course, i add it, this is only an > historical > question :) > > m. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
Digimer wrote: > On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs, >> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ? >> >> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say, >> where this is specified. > > It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. These establish a correspondence between the interfaces and the MAC addresses of the NICs. And ifcfg-ethX sets up a correspondence between MAC addresses and IP addresses of the NICs, in my case eth1 -> 192.168.2.2 . It would be possible to deduce from this that eth1 corresponds to the subnet 192.168.2.0 . But dhcpd does not appear to make this deduction. If I might ask, are you running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ? Is anybody running dhcpd under CentOS-6 ? If so, I would be very interested to see your dhcpd.conf and ifcfg-ethX . I should say that dhcpd ran (and is running) perfectly under CentOS-5.6 , but not under CentOS-6. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2011 11:32 AM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > <> > >> If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. > > now you really are guessing. > > now, guess where. ;) > LOL - -- No boom today... boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. - - Susan Ivanova B5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk4h1zYACgkQqbQrVW3JyMSKTwCghPSUf9g9k5qn4UOTGs5sNAiv TFMAnicSzXqTnB2AwUl2ksewmNZvlJt5 =9gfd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
On Saturday 16 July 2011 09:34:59 Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > What we now know as desktops will in > the not so very distant future be used only for servers and other large > storage devices. Computing will be entirely mobile, and envision a little > device on your collar (possibly in combination with glasses, but > preferably without) that reads and responds to your arm movements, and > projects your computing environment in front/around you. A keyboard will > no longer be a physical thing, it'll be projected on the surface in front > of you... You mean something like the Sixth Sense technology? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzKmGTVmqJs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDFKYrSJefc Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
g wrote:
> so, to op, Timothy Murphy,
>
> do you wish to know;
>
> 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an
> ip address?
I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX .
> 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an
> ethx position?
That is an interesting question.
I see that in CentOS-6 there is a file
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
which matches interface (ethX) to MAC address.
But this file does not seem to be present in CentOS-5.6 .
I assume that in CentOS-5.6 the match is set in ifcfg-ethX ;
but I'm not sure which of the two is dominant in CentOS-6.
> 3- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface
> card/chipset]
> to an ip address?
I'm not sure what you mean by the _order_ of the mapping?
My guess is that in the absence of any action by the user
which NIC is assigned to eth0 and which to eth1 (etc)
is determined by the position of the NICs in the PCI device table?
But I'd be interested to know the answer to this.
> 4- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface
> card/chipset]
> to an ethx position?
I don't see how this differs from the previous question.
> 5- none of above?
I think my question was slightly different to any of the above.
I was asking how the connection between an interface (ethX)
and a subnet (192.168.2.0) was, or could be, established,
since that seems to be what dhcpd wants before it starts.
My problem basically is the error message
alfred dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (no IPv4 addresses).
alfred dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth1. If this is not what
alfred dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet declaration
alfred dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
alfred dhcpd:to which interface eth1 is attached. **
alfred dhcpd:
alfred dhcpd:
alfred dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
It seems that dhcpd requires that a connection should have been established
between eth1 and the subnet 192.168.2.0 _before_ dhcpd starts.
I have a subnet declaration for the subnet 192.168.2.0
in /etc/dhcpd.conf :
subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
authoritative;
# --- default gateway
option routers 192.168.2.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
# option nis-domain "gayleard.com";
option domain-name "gayleard.com";
option domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220;
range 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.250;
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.2.128 192.168.2.254;
host alfred {
hardware 00:1B:21:AB:C9:4C;
fixed-address 192.168.2.2;
}
...
}
Also ifconfig contains
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1B:21:AB:C9:4C
inet addr:192.168.2.2 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
But it seems this is not sufficient to establish
"a subnet declaration for eth1".
I tried adding an empty declaration for 192.168.1.0 ,
and also (as was suggested) sandwiching the subset declartion(s) in
shared-network opt {
...
}
but neither seemed to make any difference.
If anyone can tell me what I am missing I should be very grateful.
http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B
>
> is a good read.
I did look at this, but it did not seem relevant to my problem.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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Re: Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15
On 07/16/2011 05:56 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? > > I saw that for previous versions of Evolution there was a plugin called > evolution-brutus plugin - for exchange 5.5 server > but from what I found, this plugin is not available for fedora 15. > > I also tried with thunderbird, but I did not find out how. > > I want to add that I don't need to sync a calander, only to read mail. > another thing is, a solution which will enable me to only read mail > (and not send) is also > good for me. > > > > Rgs, > Kevin IMAP -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: <> > If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. now you really are guessing. now, guess where. ;) -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2011 10:07 AM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 01:19 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > <> > >> Guys, he wants to know where the IP address is set, not what >> determines what interface is eth1. > > another good guess. and nothing wrong with it either. > > but, before any answers are presented, clarification should be made. > > > so, to op, Timothy Murphy, > > do you wish to know; > > 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an > ip address? > > 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an > ethx position? > > 3- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] > to an ip address? > > 4- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] > to an ethx position? > > 5- none of above? > > If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk4hungACgkQqbQrVW3JyMRXYQCfU3/b8s5b6RCOrXpNKcId296m aJ8An2gr7pPW0xRL+N08WM2080K9rB3i =M2Xg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't send email
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 16:32 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM, james tate wrote: > > one of two things, your password is not correct or your account settings > > is off. If you know your account settings compare with what you have in > > kmail. > > The OP didn't specify whether he was using Gnome or KDE. KMail uses > Kwallet I think, where as Evolution uses gnome-keyring. I would guess > the OP is using evolution in KDE and it fails to access gnome-keyring. I only ever use Evolution under KDE. It uses gnome-keyring just as it does under Gnome. The only difference is that Evo prompts you for the keyring password on starting up under a new session (just the first time) as it doesn't get this info automatically from the login widget as it does under Gnome. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Software update has bugs
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:05:35 -0700 John Wendel wrote: > Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap > spread over yum. Save yourself some pain and use yum directly. I like the Yum extender project. It is not a layer of crap. https://fedorahosted.org/yumex/ -- nomnex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: missing alerts from Osmo in upgrade to F15: LXDE spin
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:58:58 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > have been using the LXDE spin since Fedora 12. I use Osmo and find it > pretty adequate for my needs. However, up til Fedora 14, the osmo > task manager (or whatever it is called) would pop up an alert when > the time to do a particular task arrived. This pop-up feature appears > to be missing or has been unwittingly turned off (perhaps by me) in > Fedora 15. The button appears to be checked. How do I get this back? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649588 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=263775 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-March/000458.html -- nomnex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: An elementary question on LANs
On 07/16/2011 01:19 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: <> > Guys, he wants to know where the IP address is set, not what > determines what interface is eth1. another good guess. and nothing wrong with it either. but, before any answers are presented, clarification should be made. so, to op, Timothy Murphy, do you wish to know; 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an ip address? 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an ethx position? 3- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an ip address? 4- what determines order of mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an ethx position? 5- none of above? which ever it is, http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B is a good read. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 07.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Daniele Guerrieri: >> ok :-) >> >>> From wikipedia (probably also in kernel/Documentation but now i'm on >>> a win machine) i've read: >> >> have you a link? >> i do not find this on wikipedia >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysrq > > here the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key :) > > this value is a "bitmask": > >> i think this is not enough for "ALT+PRINT+K" because sync >> is only for flushing disk-buffers, maybe i play around a > hm, you're right, i think that, since it's a bitmask we need to sum > the values we want: e.g. if we want > sync (16),debugging(8), signalling(64), we have to sum > -# value=8+16+64=88, which binary is: 01 01 10 00 > ---example:- > __ > 01: 00 00 00 01 | > 02: 00 00 00 10 | > 04: 00 00 01 00 | > 08: 00 00 10 00 | > 16: 00 01 00 00 | > 32: 00 10 00 00 | > 64: 01 00 00 00 | > __| > 01 01 10 00 > - > So the magic number would be 88 :) this night i'll try it i came to first to 84, with 88 CTRL+PRINT+K says in dmesg not allowed with 84 * CTRL+PRINT+S (sync buffers to disk) works * CTRL+PRINT+K (kill session and back to login) works * but REISUB kills processes (named, openvpn, vmware...) * After REISUB the system would with 84 in a bader state as reboot finally i came to 20 * CTRL+PRINT+S (sync buffers to disk) works * CTRL+PRINT+K (kill session and back to login) works * CTRL+PRINT+REISUB does nothing bad th eonly strange gting is that ALT+F2 swicthes to terminal instead open the xecute-dialog of KDE and after switch back to KDE the dialog is still open - not sure what there happens but if this is only after SYSRQ call which is not often used i think we can live with that __ dmesg-output of REISUB: Jul 16 13:56:34 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : Keyboard mode set to system default Jul 16 13:56:34 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. Jul 16 13:56:35 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. Jul 16 13:56:35 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : Emergency Sync Jul 16 13:56:35 srv-rhsoft kernel: Emergency Sync complete Jul 16 13:56:36 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. Jul 16 13:56:36 srv-rhsoft kernel: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. ___ http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sysrq.txt 2 - enable control of console logging level 4 - enable control of keyboard (SAK, unraw) 8 - enable debugging dumps of processes etc. 16 - enable sync command 32 - enable remount read-only 64 - enable signalling of processes (term, kill, oom-kill) 128 - allow reboot/poweroff 256 - allow nicing of all RT tasks signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't send email
Am 15.07.2011 23:34, schrieb Vinny: > From: james tate >> > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping >>> at asking for password because can't authenticate. >>> The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked >>> several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15 >>> any of you good people have some suggestion? Vinny. >> Are you using Thunderbird to send mail ? >> >> I find when you send a email a window will open for your email password >> and it is is hidden down behind any open window where you can't see it, >> and your email won't send until your SMTP gets it's email password. >> - >> > I do get window that ask for password, and I enter password, then a second > window appears "Unable to authenticate to SMTP server. > Bad authentication response from server" > > I am sending this email from the same computer using Kmail, however, I would > like to go back to Evolution if it can be fixed i owuld bet evolution is misconfigured and you should contect your serveradmin because this is the only person who can look what exactly happens what auth-method are you using and what does you server support? telnet you-smtp 587 below a smtp-session to look what the server supports [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ telnet mail.thelounge.net 587 Trying 10.0.0.15... Connected to mail.thelounge.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.thelounge.net hardened ESMTP EHLO harry 250-mail.thelounge.net 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 36700160 250-VRFY 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN 250-AUTH=CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250 8BITMIME signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't send email
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM, james tate wrote: > one of two things, your password is not correct or your account settings > is off. If you know your account settings compare with what you have in > kmail. The OP didn't specify whether he was using Gnome or KDE. KMail uses Kwallet I think, where as Evolution uses gnome-keyring. I would guess the OP is using evolution in KDE and it fails to access gnome-keyring. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't send email
On 07/15/2011 05:34 PM, Vinny wrote: > From: james tate > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping >>> at asking for password because can't authenticate. >>> The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked >>> several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15 >>> any of you good people have some suggestion? Vinny. >> Are you using Thunderbird to send mail ? >> >> I find when you send a email a window will open for your email password >> and it is is hidden down behind any open window where you can't see it, >> and your email won't send until your SMTP gets it's email password. >> - >> > I do get window that ask for password, and I enter password, then a second > window appears "Unable to authenticate to SMTP server. > Bad authentication response from server" > > I am sending this email from the same computer using Kmail, however, I would > like to go back to Evolution if it can be fixed. one of two things, your password is not correct or your account settings is off. If you know your account settings compare with what you have in kmail. Last resort , Call your ISP and get correct settings. example: Server Name: Port #: Security and Authentication: Username: -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > > > > Works just fine here. > > Rahul Well I join those for whom it does nor work. I was told earlier that the automatic update only works for security updates and it is actually automatic. That is it does not ask if you want to update. Is any of this true? -- === Indomitable in retreat; invincible in advance; insufferable in victory. -- Winston Churchill, on General Montgomery === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't send email
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:34 -0400, Vinny wrote: > From: james tate > > > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping > > > at asking for password because can't authenticate. > > > The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK, I rechecked > > > several times, I also redone the set up few times. The OS is F15 > > > any of you good people have some suggestion? Vinny. > > Are you using Thunderbird to send mail ? > > > > I find when you send a email a window will open for your email password > > and it is is hidden down behind any open window where you can't see it, > > and your email won't send until your SMTP gets it's email password. > > - > > > I do get window that ask for password, and I enter password, then a second > window appears "Unable to authenticate to SMTP server. > Bad authentication response from server" > > I am sending this email from the same computer using Kmail, however, I would > like to go back to Evolution if it can be fixed. Evolution works for me. What needs to be fixed? -- === If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
syslog daemon facilty
One of the first thing u note coming from debian, is that tailing for daemon doesn't tail anything :) I wonder why redhat never used /var/log/daemon.log ad syslog daemon facility; this is not an issue of course, i add it, this is only an historical question :) m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates
On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > Works just fine here. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates
I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? Fedora 15 seems not to install yum-updatesd but it doesn't sound to be worth putting it in anyway. James On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:46 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On 07/15/2011 04:49 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > Using Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 I can only get updates manually, either > > with Yum or Software Update. That works fine but it is supposed to check > > for updates automatically and it doesn't. The options are set using > > "Software Updates" (note the final s!) and I have it set to check daily, > > for all updates. Nothing happens. Why not? > > > Me, too. And I've also got yum-updatesd running (in notify only mode). > It, too, never reports anything. > > -- > -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
While agreeing with your rant in many ways, I would like to strike a slightly different note; it is the destruction of the status quo of western society. Absolutely. But that is nothing but change. Change always hurts - sometimes many, sometimes a few. But change is also always necessary; without it there's no possibility for survival. And you can rant at it, and yell and scream how bad it is, or try to steer it, and come up with ways of change that would - on your humble opinion - be beneficial. Change is gonna happen. And it's gonna destroy the status quo. If you ask me, it's very urgent that that happens, because - next to a whole new - perhaps Matrix like - approach to social interaction, it will make room for other technologies too. Just one question I want to really comment on: > What about the privacy of those "clouds" ? Privacy has been dead since the (in)famous 9/11. Anyone with any influence anywhere in the world can know just about anything about you at the moment. Particularly if you happen to have either a facebook-related or Google-related account. And I know very few people who have neither. -- Greetz, Roelof Kusters aka Ben The internet isn't a highway, it's a swamp: the more you surf, the more it draws you in. Make 1000 euros in minutes! Sell my house: http://www.bentrein.com/house -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
recent 64-bit kernel vs. wireless
With kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64 my wireless (broadcom) is not activated. I'll provide dmsg or other data upon request. TIA, E. -- http://clients.teksavvy.com/~echapin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > ... > > One thing is sure: Your new user-base will not be your current (old) > > user-base. > ... > I adore Gnome3. It is where > computing is going, like it or not. What we now know as desktops will in > the not so very distant future be used only for servers and other large > storage devices. Computing will be entirely mobile, and envision a little > device on your collar (possibly in combination with glasses, but > preferably without) that reads and responds to your arm movements, and > projects your computing environment in front/around you. A keyboard will > no longer be a physical thing, it'll be projected on the surface in front > of you... Gnome3 is - although far from there - going in that direction. > It is - like stated elsewhere - very suitable for PADs (I call them > tablets, but whatever). On Desktops it's very possible to multitask btw, > as long as you have a rather wide display... Then you don't need > everything full screen. :) > > The movements needed for use of Gnome3 are very much Grab and Drag. I can > see myself doing this sitting in the garden with a matchbox strapped to my > collar... > ... I am glad you posted it here ... I have had an itch to poke around it for quite some time :-) In their infinite wisdom to find new sources of revenue, new catwalks are constructed and new clowns are at work. And as a result of that, all those servers, PCs, notebooks, and all software that's run on them, will just disappear, substituted by "clouds" and PDA's. And only some Amazonian tribes will stick to them, confused, while looking into sky "clouds" thru their "windows" and waiting for the Gods who once promised to come back and save them ... All these and similar wild-ass predictions, "re-engineering", and other fads that have mostly originated in "La La Land", in the persuit of opportunistic profits, "progress", "improvement", "saving capitalism", etc only resulted in progressive destruction of the West, its industrial and engineering base, and its people in the last 20 years or so. Let's consider just a few reality checks. Start with year 2000 and beyond "for a change", and also consider these pertinent and recent financial results and corporate stories related to those hand-held devices (check their stock prices !): RIM, Nokia, Motorola (split), to name a few. If that's not enough, these same wild-ass pranksters assume that "cloud computing" is or will be the answer. Again, with those hand-held devices playing a major role ... Just imagine all those happy corporate customers putting their business like big and mid iron worldwide customer software and databases on and behind those "clouds", abandoning their current model of business of maintainig corporate data, development centers, and their own skilled employees, and in persuit of total happiness letting their worldwide customers twit and sex text until they drop dead ... ! What about the security of those "clouds" ? What about the privacy of those "clouds" ? Many "what about" questions that would have to be asked ! And do not forget the outsourcing of production, engineering, and services ! We will just write put and calls, futures, and other derivative instruments we do not have a slightest clue about and that blow in our faces (but have received Nobel price recognition), and just happily practice "mass copulations" every couple of years, "for a change" :-) Yea, only in Amerika, and those nitwit European corporate states :-) A sorry state of mind of corporate and computing luminaries, the microcosm of which is represented by GNOME 3, Unity, Windows 8 GUI, and others ... JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15
Hello, Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? I saw that for previous versions of Evolution there was a plugin called evolution-brutus plugin - for exchange 5.5 server but from what I found, this plugin is not available for fedora 15. I also tried with thunderbird, but I did not find out how. I want to add that I don't need to sync a calander, only to read mail. another thing is, a solution which will enable me to only read mail (and not send) is also good for me. Rgs, Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????
On 07/16/2011 09:11 AM, Jatin K wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2011 02:22 PM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: >>> On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: <> > Sorry, that was my mistake :-( that happens. but does make things difficult to help. > actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list. and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice. did blocking work with; [1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP or [2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to indicate "NOT source". >>> >>> [2] worked for me >> >> this is what i recall having used, and more logical. >> >>>...by the way we need to indicate ! like '!' ( in >>> single quote) >>> >>> iptables -A INPUT -s '!' 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP >> this is not as i recall using, nor is it as such in man page or in >> 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls'. >> >> in man page, when shown as an option, [!] is used. when in description, >> "!" is used. (with 2 exceptions) >> >> in 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls', examples are show without quotes. >> >> so, >> >> [1] did you find without single quote to not work and then tried >> with single quotes? >> > > without single quote like this[1] > [1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP now you are trying to confuse me. :) because; }> On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: }> >> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: }> >> <> }> >> }> Sorry, that was my mistake :-( }> >> that happens. but does make things difficult to help. }> >> }> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list. }> >> and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice. }> >> }> >> did blocking work with; }> >> }> >>[1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP }> >> or }> >>[2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP }> >> }> >> syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to }> >> indicate "NOT source". }> }> }> [2] worked for me ...by the way we need to indicate ! like '!' ( in }> single quote) }> }> iptables -A INPUT -s '!' 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP > on bash it seems like it tries to find out previously run command in my > cash it finds a command started with -s ( which fails as I've not run > any command which starts with -s ) what are you meaning by "on bash"? > but when I tried to put it like '!'... its good to go > > >> or, >> >> [2] are you using "echo" to send line to iptables? > > no just how are you enter new line into iptables? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????
On Saturday 16 July 2011 02:22 PM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: >>> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: >>> <> >>> Sorry, that was my mistake :-( >>> that happens. but does make things difficult to help. >>> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list. >>> and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice. >>> >>> did blocking work with; >>> >>> [1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP >>> or >>> [2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP >>> >>> syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to >>> indicate "NOT source". >> >> [2] worked for me > this is what i recall having used, and more logical. > >>...by the way we need to indicate ! like '!' ( in >> single quote) >> >> iptables -A INPUT -s '!' 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP > this is not as i recall using, nor is it as such in man page or in > 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls'. > > in man page, when shown as an option, [!] is used. when in description, > "!" is used. (with 2 exceptions) > > in 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls', examples are show without quotes. > > so, > > [1] did you find without single quote to not work and then tried > with single quotes? > without single quote like this[1] [1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP on bash it seems like it tries to find out previously run command in my cash it finds a command started with -s ( which fails as I've not run any command which starts with -s ) but when I tried to put it like '!'... its good to go > or, > > [2] are you using "echo" to send line to iptables? no > and please, excuse my questioning, as at this time i do not have a > networking system available to experiment with, and your answers will > help when i do. thank you. > Warm Regards -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.counter.li.org No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????
On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> <> >> >>> Sorry, that was my mistake :-( >> >> that happens. but does make things difficult to help. >> >>> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list. >> >> and was so noted. wherein, a little more info would be nice. >> >> did blocking work with; >> >>[1] iptables -A INPUT ! -s 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP >> or >>[2] iptables -A INPUT -s ! 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP >> >> syntax tends to indicate that [2] is correct, as [1] would tend to >> indicate "NOT source". > > > [2] worked for me this is what i recall having used, and more logical. > ...by the way we need to indicate ! like '!' ( in > single quote) > > iptables -A INPUT -s '!' 172.16.158.111 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP this is not as i recall using, nor is it as such in man page or in 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls'. in man page, when shown as an option, [!] is used. when in description, "!" is used. (with 2 exceptions) in 'Red Hat Linux Firewalls', examples are show without quotes. so, [1] did you find without single quote to not work and then tried with single quotes? or, [2] are you using "echo" to send line to iptables? and please, excuse my questioning, as at this time i do not have a networking system available to experiment with, and your answers will help when i do. thank you. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?
Hi There, This discussion will be an endless one - as there will always be people who don't like it; and people who do. Change always hurts, because you need to learn computing anew. And it's difficult for many to be humble enough to say you don't know how to do it - if you already know how to do it somewhere else. > One thing is sure: Your new user-base will not be your current (old) > user-base. Well, there will be overlap. I liked Gnome2, I adore Gnome3. It is where computing is going, like it or not. What we now know as desktops will in the not so very distant future be used only for servers and other large storage devices. Computing will be entirely mobile, and envision a little device on your collar (possibly in combination with glasses, but preferably without) that reads and responds to your arm movements, and projects your computing environment in front/around you. A keyboard will no longer be a physical thing, it'll be projected on the surface in front of you... Gnome3 is - although far from there - going in that direction. It is - like stated elsewhere - very suitable for PADs (I call them tablets, but whatever). On Desktops it's very possible to multitask btw, as long as you have a rather wide display... Then you don't need everything full screen. :) The movements needed for use of Gnome3 are very much Grab and Drag. I can see myself doing this sitting in the garden with a matchbox strapped to my collar... Meanwhile, many things do indeed need to change, or at least be improved in Gnome3 (Fedora 15 is my only reference). Indeed, Power Off (Shut Down, whatever you wish to call it) needs to be there standard - and not through a plugin (btw, yes, there's the Are you Sure option, where you can also decide to reboot). I'm looking for a better notification/taskbar equivalent. Right now, only the program on top is shown. More space needs to be made for more open programs. For example, I use XChat while gaming. There is no notification what so ever when there's activity on the chat channel - because there's no space for anything to blink. And there are more things, but they've been repeated ad nausea (is that the spelling) so I won't do it here. > I'd expect people, who are attracted by the kind of GUI, Gnome 3 tries > to implement, to choose the original, i.e. Apple, Microsoft or Google's > products over Gnome 3 (which means them not ot use Linux). There certainly will be some going that way. I am not, and I know a few people who are with me. P.S. Sorry, this mail took overnight to compose; a crying kid can be awfully distracting. :) -- Greetz, Roelof Kusters aka Ben The internet isn't a highway, it's a swamp: the more you surf, the more it draws you in. Make 1000 euros in minutes! Sell my house: http://www.bentrein.com/house -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
