DNS mystery: NetworkManager vs SELinux

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

My netbook has a rather vanilla installation of F15.

I tried a new desktop.  Wireless didn't work (long story, not relevant) so 
I manually ran network manager (didn't help).  Then I rebooted back to 
Gnome.

Wired networking seemed to no longer work.  Actually, networking worked 
but no domain names could be resolved.

After a lot of ineffective poking about (based on my deep understanding of 
how things worked in the good old days before NM), I discovered (with 
help) the problem.

NM creates a new /etc/resolv.conf.tmp whenever it learns (through DHCP or 
whatever) what the name servers are.  On my system, it could not manage to 
replace /etc/resolv.conf.  /var/log/messages showed:
 could not commit DNS changes: (0) Could not replace 
/etc/resolv.conf: permission denied

"ls -l /etc/resolv.conf*" showed nothing scary.  But "ls -lZ" did.

Something had labeled /etc/resolv.conf unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0
instead of system_u:object_r:net_conf_t:s0

Fix: "restorecon /etc/resolv.conf"

How the heck is an ordinary user supposed to figure this out?
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Re: Custom init scripts and systemd

[Jan Willies]

2011/9/13 Alex Thomas 

> Hello I use an older Thinkpad R32 as my primary linux machine. I use it
> primarily for web / email / chat while working or gaming on main machine.
> Since it did not come with an internal wifi card, I have to use the pc card
> port.  This has always been interesting because if I did not have an
> explicit pccard eject script on run on shutdown it would reboot instead of
> power off. What is the correct way to do this with systemd?
>
Make the unit-file WantedBy=shutdown.target.
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Re: systems partitions on /mnt

[Javier Perez]

Here is the result of df.

As you can see, the mount points are right where one would expect them to
be. Therefore I am confused about why these "mount points" appear on /mnt
(/mnt/home, /mnt/var and /mnt/boot )


[root@pepewin ~]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs51606140   7819828  43262192  16% /
udev   1666000 0   1666000   0% /dev
tmpfs  1673416  4396   1669020   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs  1673416   740   1672676   1% /run
/dev/sdb2 51606140   7819828  43262192  16% /
tmpfs  1673416 0   1673416   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs  1673416 0   1673416   0% /media
/dev/sdb6361243236  27824140 315069016   9% /home
/dev/sdb1   495844 86196384048  19% /boot
/dev/sdb5 51606140815416  48169284   2% /var
/dev/sdb2 51606140   7819828  43262192  16% /tmp
/dev/sdb5 51606140815416  48169284   2%
/var/tmp
/dev/sdb6361243236  27824140 315069016   9%
/home
[root@pepewin ~]#


On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Javier Perez  wrote:

> No, 4:30 AM was right :)
> JP
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>
>> On 09/11/2011 11:38 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
>> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 boot
>> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 home
>> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 var
>>
>> All of them created at the same time.
>> Did you really install the system at 4:30 AM ? :-)
>>
>> If not, maybe something in crontab went crazy.
>>
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Re: systems partitions on /mnt

[Javier Perez]

No, 4:30 AM was right :)
JP

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

> On 09/11/2011 11:38 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 boot
> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 home
> > drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 var
>
> All of them created at the same time.
> Did you really install the system at 4:30 AM ? :-)
>
> If not, maybe something in crontab went crazy.
>
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Re: running programs as root in KDE

[n2xssvv.g02gfr12930]

On 13/09/11 01:25, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
> As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my hardware
> simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
> connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
> addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
> simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
> doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
> me, let alone give me anything to work with.
> 
> Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
> Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
> command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
> user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu doesn't
> exist in this version of KDE.
> 
> Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
> upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
> is a bit much.
> 
> Jerry
> 

Jerry,

  To run a GUI application as the root user with KDE you need to enter
"kdesu kwrite", either from a konsole or krunner. You will then be
required to enter the root password before kwrite will start as a root
application.
  Alt-F2 should bring up krunner for you. It can also provide you with
system activity for you, and from there send signals to running processes.
  As with most things, it's easy when you know the tricks. I hope these
teething troubles don't discourage you.

HTH

cpp4ever
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Re: running programs as root in KDE

[Digvijay Patankar]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Gerhard Magnus wrote:

> Something that used to be
> simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
> doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
> me, let alone give me anything to work with.
>

Have you tried
 + F2 > kdesu kwrite  ?
I think this will work for you.

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Re: running programs as root in KDE

[Joe Zeff]

On 09/12/2011 10:47 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> nearly unusable editors like vi or nano and the like.

I, OTOH, find nano exceptionally easy to use because the most common 
commands are listed at the bottom of the screen, including ^G to get the 
rest of them.  Of course, I go back to when the CLI was all there was, 
so I have no problems with an editor that isn't GUI-dependent.
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Re: running programs as root in KDE

[Peter Gueckel]

Gerhard Magnus wrote:

> open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --

I haven't tried all of that, but I use sudo kwrite /etc/somefile all the time 
when I want to do some configuration. There are a lot of messages about 
connecting to deprecated signal, application may misbehave, but after a few 
oments kwrite opens up and I can edit the file as root and don't need to bother 
with nearly unusable editors like vi or nano and the like.

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Custom init scripts and systemd

[Alex Thomas]

Hello I use an older Thinkpad R32 as my primary linux machine. I use it
primarily for web / email / chat while working or gaming on main machine.
Since it did not come with an internal wifi card, I have to use the pc card
port.  This has always been interesting because if I did not have an
explicit pccard eject script on run on shutdown it would reboot instead of
power off. What is the correct way to do this with systemd?

Alex Thomas
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SL6 epel garmin 18 lvc serial port pps kernel trace

[Skunk Worx]

Hi everyone,

I have two Mini-ITX Intel mobos I am using as ntpd time servers with a 
Garmin LVC 18 serial port GPS that provides a PPS input.

I've had good luck with this unit and gpsd in the past, but I get a 
kernel call trace if I run "setserial" then the "shmpps" daemon.

Here is the info -- if anyone has comments or suggestions I'd appreciate 
it. I'll probably switch back to gpsd later this week if not.

Repeatable with i686 or x86_64 SL6.

1) Use Intel D945GCLF Atom 230 Mini-ITX mobo
2) Use Garmin 18x LVC gps wired for serial port w/ PPS on DCD pin
3) Install SL6 and "shmpps" EPEL package
4) Boot SL6 2.6.32-131.12.1.el6.x86_64.debug kernel into single user mode
5) Start rsyslog service
6) Note dmesg serial info :

# dmesg | grep serial
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

7) Run setserial command :
/bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x03f8  irq 4 baud_base 
115200 spd_normal skip_test low_latency

8) Run shmpps in debug mode :
/usr/sbin/shm_splc2 -d /dev/ttyS0 -s -u 0 -l DCD -D

The following depends on the setserial command being run and having the 
garmin plugged into the serial port. The call trace is emitted at 
roughly the same rate as the NMEA strings from the garmin.

BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context at kernel/mutex.c:287
in_atomic(): 1, irqs_disabled(): 1, pid: 0, name: swapper
INFO: lockdep is turned off.
irq event stamp: 827450
hardirqs last  enabled at (827449): [] 
intel_idle+0xe1/0x170
hardirqs last disabled at (827450): [] save_args+0x6a/0x70
softirqs last  enabled at (827440): [] 
__do_softirq+0x14a/0x200
softirqs last disabled at (827415): [] 
call_softirq+0x1c/0x30
Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.32-131.12.1.el6.x86_64.debug #1
Call Trace:
[] ? print_irqtrace_events+0xd0/0xe0
  [] ? __might_sleep+0xf7/0x130
  [] ? mutex_lock_nested+0x2f/0x60
  [] ? process_output+0x30/0x70
  [] ? n_tty_receive_buf+0x618/0x1290
  [] ? print_lock_contention_bug+0x22/0xf0
  [] ? print_lock_contention_bug+0x22/0xf0
  [] ? flush_to_ldisc+0x43/0x1b0
  [] ? flush_to_ldisc+0x183/0x1b0
  [] ? tty_flip_buffer_push+0x7c/0x90
  [] ? serial8250_handle_port+0x215/0x350
  [] ? serial8250_interrupt+0x8b/0x120
  [] ? handle_IRQ_event+0x50/0x160
  [] ? handle_edge_irq+0xc8/0x160
  [] ? handle_irq+0x49/0xa0
  [] ? do_IRQ+0x6c/0xf0
  [] ? ret_from_intr+0x0/0x16
[] ? intel_idle+0xe1/0x170
  [] ? intel_idle+0xe8/0x170
  [] ? intel_idle+0xe1/0x170
  [] ? __atomic_notifier_call_chain+0x0/0xa0
  [] ? cpuidle_idle_call+0xa7/0x150
  [] ? cpu_idle+0xbb/0x110
  [] ? rest_init+0x7a/0x80
  [] ? start_kernel+0x44f/0x45b
  [] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x125/0x129
  [] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0xfa/0x109
ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)

Thanks,
John
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Re: HP LaserJet P2055dn: Margins are not being respected

[Steven P. Ulrick]

On 09/12/2011 04:30 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Steven P. Ulrick  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  Just recently my HP LaserJet P2055dn has started printing
>> everything as close to the top of the page as possible.  Everything else
>> on the page looks normal.  The documents that I have been using to test
>> this issue with have .79" margins all around.
>>  This is a new issue for me.  Up until today this printer has not
>> given me any trouble at all.
>>  I'm sure that I have not given you as much information as will be
>> needed to troubleshoot this, so I will gladly provide any additional
>> information that is required.
>>
>> Steven P. Ulrick
>>
>> P.S.: I hope this message arrives as plain text.  Also, I hope the lines
>> will be a sane length.  This is the first time I've sent a message to
>> this list using Thunderbird.
> Did you update the HPLIP and or CUPS package(s) recently? If so have
> you checked your printer settings to ensure that the correct printer
> model is specified?

Ooops!  I ended up trying this:
yum downgrade cups cups-devel cups-libs hplip hplip-common hplip-gui 
hplip-libs hpijs libsane-hpaio

Everything downgraded without any dependency issues.  Then I printed the 
file that I first saw this problem on, and it printed perfectly.
So, I am VERY sorry for all of the noise that I added to  this thread...

Of course, it still appears that at least one of the updates that I just 
downgraded broke my printer.  Is anyone else having this issue? and how 
can we figure out WHICH one of the updates broke my printer?

Steven P. Ulrick
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Re: HP LaserJet P2055dn: Margins are not being respected

[Linus Ulrick]

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Steven P. Ulrick  wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 04:30 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Steven P. Ulrick
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>     Just recently my HP LaserJet P2055dn has started printing
>>> everything as close to the top of the page as possible.  Everything else
>>> on the page looks normal.  The documents that I have been using to test
>>> this issue with have .79" margins all around.
>>>     This is a new issue for me.  Up until today this printer has not
>>> given me any trouble at all.
>>>     I'm sure that I have not given you as much information as will be
>>> needed to troubleshoot this, so I will gladly provide any additional
>>> information that is required.
>>>
>>> Steven P. Ulrick
>>>
>>> P.S.: I hope this message arrives as plain text.  Also, I hope the lines
>>> will be a sane length.  This is the first time I've sent a message to
>>> this list using Thunderbird.
>>
>> Did you update the HPLIP and or CUPS package(s) recently? If so have
>> you checked your printer settings to ensure that the correct printer
>> model is specified?
>
> Version of installed CUPS RPM's:
> cups.x86_64                              1:1.4.8-2.fc14
> @updates
> cups-devel.x86_64                        1:1.4.8-2.fc14
> @updates
> cups-libs.x86_64                         1:1.4.8-2.fc14
> @updates
>
>
> Version of installed hplip RPM's:
> hplip.x86_64                             3.11.7-2.fc14
>  @updates
> hplip-common.x86_64                      3.11.7-2.fc14
>  @updates
> hplip-gui.x86_64                         3.11.7-2.fc14
>  @updates
> hplip-libs.x86_64                        3.11.7-2.fc14
>  @updates

OK, I see that "yum downgrade hplip cups" was not being fair.  So, I tried this:
[root@localhost ~]# yum downgrade cups cups-devel cups-libs hplip
hplip-common hplip-gui hplip-libs hpijs libsane-hpaio
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
Setting up Downgrade Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups.x86_64 1:1.4.4-10.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package cups.x86_64 1:1.4.8-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package cups-devel.x86_64 1:1.4.4-10.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package cups-devel.x86_64 1:1.4.8-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package cups-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.4-10.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package cups-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.8-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hpijs.x86_64 1:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package hpijs.x86_64 1:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hplip.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package hplip.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hplip-common.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package hplip-common.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hplip-gui.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package hplip-gui.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hplip-libs.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package hplip-libs.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package libsane-hpaio.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
---> Package libsane-hpaio.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package Arch
   Version
   Repository
  Size

Downgrading:
 cupsx86_64
   1:1.4.4-10.fc14
   fedora
 2.3 M
 cups-devel  x86_64
   1:1.4.4-10.fc14
   fedora
 105 k
 cups-libs   x86_64
   1:1.4.4-10.fc14
   fedora
 335 k
 hpijs   x86_64
   1:3.10.6-3.fc14
   fedora
 4.9 M
 hplip   x86_64
   3.10.6-3.fc14
   fedora
 6.0 M
 hplip-commonx86_64
   

Re: running programs as root in KDE

[Joe Zeff]

On 09/12/2011 05:32 PM, Elliott Chapin wrote:
> vi should do it - elementary use is actually easy. Other editors are
> blocked in many environments.

Or, for those of us who neither know nor want to learn its arcane, 
obfuscated syntax, you can use nano.  All you need to know is that, as 
used to be customary, it uses ^G for Control-G and so on, and Bob's your 
uncle.
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Re: HP LaserJet P2055dn: Margins are not being respected

[Steven P. Ulrick]

On 09/12/2011 04:30 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Steven P. Ulrick  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  Just recently my HP LaserJet P2055dn has started printing
>> everything as close to the top of the page as possible.  Everything else
>> on the page looks normal.  The documents that I have been using to test
>> this issue with have .79" margins all around.
>>  This is a new issue for me.  Up until today this printer has not
>> given me any trouble at all.
>>  I'm sure that I have not given you as much information as will be
>> needed to troubleshoot this, so I will gladly provide any additional
>> information that is required.
>>
>> Steven P. Ulrick
>>
>> P.S.: I hope this message arrives as plain text.  Also, I hope the lines
>> will be a sane length.  This is the first time I've sent a message to
>> this list using Thunderbird.
> Did you update the HPLIP and or CUPS package(s) recently? If so have
> you checked your printer settings to ensure that the correct printer
> model is specified?

Version of installed CUPS RPM's:
cups.x86_64  1:1.4.8-2.fc14 
@updates
cups-devel.x86_641:1.4.8-2.fc14 
@updates
cups-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.8-2.fc14 
@updates


Version of installed hplip RPM's:
hplip.x86_64 3.11.7-2.fc14  
@updates
hplip-common.x86_64  3.11.7-2.fc14  
@updates
hplip-gui.x86_64 3.11.7-2.fc14  
@updates
hplip-libs.x86_643.11.7-2.fc14  
@updates

Before I contacted the list, I did determine that CUPS was updated on 
September, 9th and hplip was updated on September 10th.  I then 
determined that I had actually applied all of those updates.  Those 
updates were the ones that were installed when I began seeing the margin 
issue.

So, I attempted to run "yum downgrade hplip cups"

Here is the output:

[root@localhost ~]# yum downgrade hplip cups
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
Setting up Downgrade Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups.x86_64 1:1.4.4-10.fc14 set to be downgraded
--> Processing Dependency: cups-libs = 1:1.4.4-10.fc14 for package: 
1:cups-1.4.4-10.fc14.x86_64
---> Package cups.x86_64 1:1.4.8-2.fc14 set to be erased
---> Package hplip.x86_64 0:3.10.6-3.fc14 set to be downgraded
--> Processing Dependency: hpijs = 1:3.10.6-3.fc14 for package: 
hplip-3.10.6-3.fc14.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: hplip-libs = 3.10.6-3.fc14 for package: 
hplip-3.10.6-3.fc14.x86_64
---> Package hplip.x86_64 0:3.11.7-2.fc14 set to be erased
--> Running transaction check
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Re: Xephyr nested X-server seems to ignore backing store option

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 09/12/2011 05:00 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
> I have been trying to use Xephyr for running an old legacy
> application that doesn't function properly at color depths greater
> than 8 bit.  I have been exploring this as a possible alternative to
> running X in 8-bit color mode, primarily because X does not seem to
> work properly in 8 bit color mode anymore.  I get a grayscale
> display instead of 8-bit color.  Xephyr seems to work perfectly for
> what I want to do, with the exception of the backing store.  I am
> running Xephyr with the options +bs -wm, however when I open a menu
> on the legacy application or move some other screen object, the
> screen behind it ends up either staying black or certain elements
> going missing until I do something that causes the entire display to
> be re-drawn.  While re-writing the portions of the application that
> don't play nice with color depths beyond 8 bits, I  would like to
> get this working without requiring updating our software if possible
> as we have many different locations using their own customized
> versions. 
> 
> I have verified that the backing store option does work for Xorg,
> both if I run Fedora normally, that is load Gnome and use that as a
> display manager, and if I just start Xorg manually with no display
> managers.
> 
> Any insights or help on getting this working would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Doug K
> 
Have you tried running it in xnest with the color depth set to 8 bit?

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Re: running programs as root in KDE

[Elliott Chapin]

On 09/12/2011 08:25 PM, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
> As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my hardware
> simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
> connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
> addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
> simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts&  --
> doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
> me, let alone give me anything to work with.
>
> Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
> Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
> command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
> user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu doesn't
> exist in this version of KDE.
>
> Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
> upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
> is a bit much.
>
> Jerry
>

vi should do it - elementary use is actually easy. Other editors are 
blocked in many environments.

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running programs as root in KDE

[Gerhard Magnus]

As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my hardware
simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.

Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu doesn't
exist in this version of KDE.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
is a bit much.

Jerry

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Re: /USR/SBIN/CROND

[Frantisek Hanzlik]

Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> If you feel the output is incorrect or could be improved, please file a
> bug on cronie? 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=15&component=cronie
> 
> kevin

Thanks, Kevin, i will do it.
Franta

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Re: /USR/SBIN/CROND

[Kevin Fenzi]

If you feel the output is incorrect or could be improved, please file a
bug on cronie? 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=15&component=cronie

kevin


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Re: /USR/SBIN/CROND

[Frantisek Hanzlik]

Larry Brower wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 05:55 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
>> CROND in Fedora 14- distros are OK, crond childs are running with
>> this name. But, what shit are F15 crond records (usually directed to
>> "/var/log/cron") aka:
>>
>> Sep 13 00:30:01 x /USR/SBIN/CROND[11095]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/...
>>
>> I hope that isn't next step nearer to ass of some case-insensitive
>> OSes? It cannot have any meaningful significancy. Or I'm bad?
>>
>> Franta Hanzlik
> 
> 
> what?

$SUBJ

It looks crazy. I cannot see the sense of it.

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Re: /USR/SBIN/CROND

[Larry Brower]

On 09/12/2011 05:55 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
> CROND in Fedora 14- distros are OK, crond childs are running with
> this name. But, what shit are F15 crond records (usually directed to
> "/var/log/cron") aka:
> 
> Sep 13 00:30:01 x /USR/SBIN/CROND[11095]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/...
> 
> I hope that isn't next step nearer to ass of some case-insensitive
> OSes? It cannot have any meaningful significancy. Or I'm bad?
> 
> Franta Hanzlik


what?

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/USR/SBIN/CROND

[Frantisek Hanzlik]

CROND in Fedora 14- distros are OK, crond childs are running with
this name. But, what shit are F15 crond records (usually directed to
"/var/log/cron") aka:

Sep 13 00:30:01 x /USR/SBIN/CROND[11095]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/...

I hope that isn't next step nearer to ass of some case-insensitive
OSes? It cannot have any meaningful significancy. Or I'm bad?

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Scroller

[Lawrence E Graves]

Is there a scroller to install in themes application window?
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Xephyr nested X-server seems to ignore backing store option

[Doug Kuvaas]

I have been trying to use Xephyr for running an old legacy application that
doesn't function properly at color depths greater than 8 bit.  I have been
exploring this as a possible alternative to running X in 8-bit color mode,
primarily because X does not seem to work properly in 8 bit color mode
anymore.  I get a grayscale display instead of 8-bit color.  Xephyr seems to
work perfectly for what I want to do, with the exception of the backing
store.  I am running Xephyr with the options +bs -wm, however when I open a
menu on the legacy application or move some other screen object, the screen
behind it ends up either staying black or certain elements going missing
until I do something that causes the entire display to be re-drawn.  While
re-writing the portions of the application that don't play nice with color
depths beyond 8 bits, I  would like to get this working without requiring
updating our software if possible as we have many different locations using
their own customized versions.

I have verified that the backing store option does work for Xorg, both if I
run Fedora normally, that is load Gnome and use that as a display manager,
and if I just start Xorg manually with no display managers.

Any insights or help on getting this working would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Doug K
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Re: Network printer not working, how to debug?

[Rick Stevens]

On 09/12/2011 02:16 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> On 09/10/2011 01:55 PM, Gordon Charrick wrote:
>> I just bought a Brother laser all-in-one (MFC-7860DW) after determining 
>> that it should work fine with Linux. It does wired/wireless and I have 
>> it connected to my network via wireless.
> 
>> A mac and a windows machine on the network see the printer and it works 
>> fine with them.
> 
>> When I use system-config-printer to try to set up the printer in Fedora 
>> 15 the following happens:
> 
>> I click the Network Printer dropdown under "Select Device" and the 
>> printer shows up with the proper IP address. Under "Connection", "IPP 
>> network printer via DNS-SD" is selected. I choose the driver and apply 
>> the settings. It prompts to print a test page and I click to print it. 
>> The job for the test page is submitted and a window with the settings 
>> shows up and the Printer State shows as "Stopped - Destination printer 
>> does not exist!". The Device URI is 
>> "dnssd://Brother%20MFC-7860DW._ipp._tcp.local/".
> 
>> Not really sure where to go from here.
> 
> Try using something like:
> 
> ipp://192.168.2.101/ipp
> 
> replacing the IP address with the correct one for the printer, and
> see if that works. It does on F14 for a MFC-7820N using the CUPS driver.
> 
> Where you go from there depends on how you want to handle the
> printer IP address. I have mine assigned a fixed address by the DHCP
> server, though you can probably give it a static IP address in the
> printer setup.
> 
> There is a way to use the setup you have, but it involves opening up
> ports in the firewall, and running the zero-config daemon. (I forget
> the name of it.)

It's called "Avahi"
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Re: HP LaserJet P2055dn: Margins are not being respected

[Kam Leo]

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Steven P. Ulrick  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>     Just recently my HP LaserJet P2055dn has started printing
> everything as close to the top of the page as possible.  Everything else
> on the page looks normal.  The documents that I have been using to test
> this issue with have .79" margins all around.
>     This is a new issue for me.  Up until today this printer has not
> given me any trouble at all.
>     I'm sure that I have not given you as much information as will be
> needed to troubleshoot this, so I will gladly provide any additional
> information that is required.
>
> Steven P. Ulrick
>
> P.S.: I hope this message arrives as plain text.  Also, I hope the lines
> will be a sane length.  This is the first time I've sent a message to
> this list using Thunderbird.

Did you update the HPLIP and or CUPS package(s) recently? If so have
you checked your printer settings to ensure that the correct printer
model is specified?
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Re: Network printer not working, how to debug?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 09/10/2011 01:55 PM, Gordon Charrick wrote:
> I just bought a Brother laser all-in-one (MFC-7860DW) after determining 
> that it should work fine with Linux. It does wired/wireless and I have 
> it connected to my network via wireless.
> 
> A mac and a windows machine on the network see the printer and it works 
> fine with them.
> 
> When I use system-config-printer to try to set up the printer in Fedora 
> 15 the following happens:
> 
> I click the Network Printer dropdown under "Select Device" and the 
> printer shows up with the proper IP address. Under "Connection", "IPP 
> network printer via DNS-SD" is selected. I choose the driver and apply 
> the settings. It prompts to print a test page and I click to print it. 
> The job for the test page is submitted and a window with the settings 
> shows up and the Printer State shows as "Stopped - Destination printer 
> does not exist!". The Device URI is 
> "dnssd://Brother%20MFC-7860DW._ipp._tcp.local/".
> 
> Not really sure where to go from here.
> 
Try using something like:

ipp://192.168.2.101/ipp

replacing the IP address with the correct one for the printer, and
see if that works. It does on F14 for a MFC-7820N using the CUPS driver.

Where you go from there depends on how you want to handle the
printer IP address. I have mine assigned a fixed address by the DHCP
server, though you can probably give it a static IP address in the
printer setup.

There is a way to use the setup you have, but it involves opening up
ports in the firewall, and running the zero-config daemon. (I forget
the name of it.)

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HP LaserJet P2055dn: Margins are not being respected

[Steven P. Ulrick]

Hello Everyone,
 Just recently my HP LaserJet P2055dn has started printing 
everything as close to the top of the page as possible.  Everything else 
on the page looks normal.  The documents that I have been using to test 
this issue with have .79" margins all around.
 This is a new issue for me.  Up until today this printer has not 
given me any trouble at all.
 I'm sure that I have not given you as much information as will be 
needed to troubleshoot this, so I will gladly provide any additional 
information that is required.

Steven P. Ulrick

P.S.: I hope this message arrives as plain text.  Also, I hope the lines 
will be a sane length.  This is the first time I've sent a message to 
this list using Thunderbird.
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Theme space

[Lawrence E Graves]

Is there a way to scroll in while the theme selecting mode. Is there a 
limit to the number gnome-shell themes that will display on the screen. 
(Window-Application-Theme)
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Re: Thunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 12/09/11 15:24, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/13/2011 01:47 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>  For example, I dropped the "t" in printing this morning
>>  "prining" and it offered me the following list:
>>
>>  preening
>>  pruning
>>  priming
>>  pining
>>  printing
>>
>>
>>  If I get careless and click Replace it defaults to "preening."
>>  It's a mystery to me what kind of logic produces that result?
> Simple, "phonetics".
>
> Remember, spell-check is more than just correcting "typing" errors.
>

Ed, if there is really some phonetic correlation, I'm not
satisfied with it and I don't think it works as well as it did
six months ago.

I was just looking for a better app., apparently there is none
so I will make do with what I have, it didn't cost me anything ...

Bob



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Re: Fedora Install on a Compaq ?

[g]

On 09/12/2011 06:45 PM, james tate wrote:
> F15
> 
> I'am going to install F15 on a friends old 13 yr. old Compaq box.
> 
> I guess to get into the BIOS , click on  Del key ?
> Does anyone know how to Boot off a CDrom, do you have to click on a "F" 
> key or go into the BIOS to Setup ?

in addition to joe zeff's help on getting to bios, because you are
dealing with a 13 yo system, have a look at hardware requirements;

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_15.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Overview


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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Ed Greshko]

On 09/13/2011 01:47 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> For example, I dropped the "t" in printing this morning
> "prining" and it offered me the following list:
>
> preening
> pruning
> priming
> pining
> printing
>
>
> If I get careless and click Replace it defaults to "preening."
> It's a mystery to me what kind of logic produces that result?

Simple, "phonetics".

Remember, spell-check is more than just correcting "typing" errors.

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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[g]

On 09/12/2011 05:34 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 12/09/11 13:04, g wrote:
<>
>> one wants normal words, other wants u.s. english. neither tells v/r.
>>
>> using "version 2.0.0.24 (20110906)", when i;
>>
>>"edit>  preferences>  composition>  spelling"
>>
>> i see near middle of window;
>>
>> Languages:  English/United States ^v
>>
>> Download More Dictionaries
>>
>>
>> does that help?
>>
>
> I don't know what version I had originally but that offers me
> the one I downloaded/installed this morning which was probably
> the same thing I began with.

probably.

> It seems to me the spellcheckers in earlier Thunderbird versions
> caused me less grief. Perhaps I have improved things with the
> most recent effort, but I still have doubt. I'll wait and see..

it just seems that way. see below.


On 09/12/2011 05:47 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 12/09/11 13:12, g wrote:
<>

>> btw, did you mean "Thunderbird" or "The Underbird"? ;)
>>
>
> For example, I dropped the "t" in printing this morning
> "prining" and it offered me the following list:
>
> preening
> pruning
> priming
> pining
> printing
>
>
> If I get careless and click Replace it defaults to "preening."
> It's a mystery to me what kind of logic produces that result?

if the word does not match what is in the dictionary, the 'look up'
has an algorithm to search for close matching. of course this algorithm
is written by a human, so you can take it from there.

> I know it's bad so I can live with it but I set out looking for
> something better. It's just that it irks me ...

over time, the human adds to dictionary and modifies algorithm, so
you can/should be able to understand why if gets worse.

most of all, do not forget the laws of murky.

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Re: Fedora Install on a Compaq ?

[Joe Zeff]

On 09/12/2011 11:45 AM, james tate wrote:
> I guess to get into the BIOS , click on  Del key ?
> Does anyone know how to Boot off a CDrom, do you have to click on a "F"
> key or go into the BIOS to Setup ?

When you turn it on, the first thing it does is run a POST and check 
memory.  While it's doing that, there should be instructions at the 
bottom of the screen on how to enter the BIOS setup program.  I can't be 
more specific, because not all BIOS versions do it the same way.
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Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

[Joe Zeff]

On 09/12/2011 11:05 AM, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
> Wow.  Thank you.  I was hesitant to try KDE after reading about 4.x, but
> XFCE has brought most of the snappiness back to my machine.

There's an old trick that most of the early window managers used that I 
hadn't seen in years until I tried XFCE: the context menu you get when 
you right-click on the desktop contains your complete main menu, 
including Preferences and Administration.  No more need to go over to 
the panel to launch a program or control panel, just right-click 
wherever your mouse happens to be.  Lack of it isn't a show-stopper, of 
course, but once you get used to it, it's very convenient.  I mention it 
mostly because you may not have found it yet.
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Fedora Install on a Compaq ?

[james tate]

F15

I'am going to install F15 on a friends old 13 yr. old Compaq box.

I guess to get into the BIOS , click on  Del key ?
Does anyone know how to Boot off a CDrom, do you have to click on a "F" 
key or go into the BIOS to Setup ?
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Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

[Frederick N. Brier]

On 09/09/2011 03:57 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
>> A lot of people dismissed KDE after the rough time of version 4.0, in
>> a similar way that Gnome3 is now losing its userbase. But today KDE4
>> is a beautiful, stable and very user-friendly DE.
> Stable? I had to wait until KDE-4.6 until I finally decided that
> waiting and reporting bugs won't fix its buginess.
> Switched to XFCE a few months ago, and didn't regret it. A traditional
> desktop as I like it (a lot like KDE3).
>
> - Clemens
Wow.  Thank you.  I was hesitant to try KDE after reading about 4.x, but 
XFCE has brought most of the snappiness back to my machine.  The Chrome 
bookmarks pop-up dialog and IntelliJ's smart code completion are still 
slower than they were under F14, but faster than Gnome3.  And it was SO 
easy to install.  I have done a lot with Fedora, but I have never 
installed a second Window Manager.  Just stuck with Gnome.  Yeah 
Fedora!  Gee, now I might try IceWM just for giggles. :)

Fred
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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 12/09/11 13:12, g wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 12:53 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
>> frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
>> one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
>> ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
>> anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?
> btw, did you mean "Thunderbird" or "The Underbird"? ;)
>

For example, I dropped the "t" in printing this morning
"prining" and it offered me the following list:

preening
pruning
priming
pining
printing


If I get careless and click Replace it defaults to "preening."
It's a mystery to me what kind of logic produces that result?

I know it's bad so I can live with it but I set out looking for
something better. It's just that it irks me ...

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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 12/09/11 13:04, g wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 04:17 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> On 12/09/11 11:30, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>>> On 09/12/2011 07:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
 I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
 frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
 one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
 ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
 anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?
>>> ... or a way to make it do U.S. English, rather than U.K.
>>>
>> No, as I said, I can spell and I know the difference. It is set
>> to "American." It simply make poor chives [choices, I dropped
>> the O, not the best example] and often completely misses the
>> mark! Perhaps I should set it to UK English and make corrections
>> where required?
> one wants normal words, other wants u.s. english. neither tells v/r.
>
> using "version 2.0.0.24 (20110906)", when i;
>
>"edit>  preferences>  composition>  spelling"
>
> i see near middle of window;
>
> Languages:  English/United States ^v
>
> Download More Dictionaries
>
>
> does that help?
>

I don't know what version I had originally but that offers me
the one I downloaded/installed this morning which was probably
the same thing I began with.

It seems to me the spellcheckers in earlier Thunderbird versions
caused me less grief. Perhaps I have improved things with the
most recent effort, but I still have doubt. I'll wait and see..

Bob



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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[g]

On 09/12/2011 12:53 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> 
> I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
> frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
> one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
> ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
> anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?

btw, did you mean "Thunderbird" or "The Underbird"? ;)

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Re: NetworkManager applet: force connection list refresh

[Pedro Francisco]

Actually I spoke to early, upon reboot things started not working again.

I'm back to killall modem-manager, nm-connection-editor, change something in
the connection, save and then it appears on network dropdown.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Pedro Francisco
wrote:

> Killing nm-applet won't work as Gnome-Shell doesn't use (though it is
> loaded it doesn't do anything)
>
> But «service NetworkManager restart» does work.
>
> I now have the following lines and seems to be working (sleep time is still
> under test :p)
>
> Thank you!
>
> # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-vodafone-fix.rules
> KERNEL=="usb0", RUN+="vodafone-fix.sh"
>
>
> # cat /lib/udev/vodafone-fix.sh
> #!/bin/sh
>
> eject /dev/sr1
> /sbin/ifconfig usb0 -arp
>
> sleep 10
> service NetworkManager restart
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi  wrote:
>
>> On 7 September 2011 11:10, Pedro Francisco 
>> wrote:
>> > Ok I give up (see below). Next attempt: Is there anyway to get the
>> > old-but-functional nm-applet working on Gnome-Shell instead of the
>> built-in
>> > 'n buggy one?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Pedro Francisco <
>> pedrogfranci...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is there anyway to force the NetworkManager applet to refresh its list?
>> >> Everytime I plug-in my 3G dongle (k3805-z) I have to either go to
>> >> nm-connection-editor and toggle the option "Connection available for
>> every
>> >> user" or restart gnome-shell (ALT+F2, r) so the connection for the 3G
>> dongle
>> >> appears...
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >
>>
>> Sorry for late jumping into the thread.
>> Prior to F15 there was NetworkManager service. In case of troubles
>> with nm I used to restart it:
>> service NetworkManager restart
>> Perhaps you could write udev-rule to trigger nm-applet restarting when
>> 3G dongle plugged-in.
>> Just my 2 kopecks.
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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[g]

On 09/12/2011 04:17 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 12/09/11 11:30, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> On 09/12/2011 07:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>> I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
>>> frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
>>> one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
>>> ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
>>> anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?
>> ... or a way to make it do U.S. English, rather than U.K.
>>
>
> No, as I said, I can spell and I know the difference. It is set
> to "American." It simply make poor chives [choices, I dropped
> the O, not the best example] and often completely misses the
> mark! Perhaps I should set it to UK English and make corrections
> where required?

one wants normal words, other wants u.s. english. neither tells v/r.

using "version 2.0.0.24 (20110906)", when i;

  "edit > preferences > composition > spelling"

i see near middle of window;

   Languages:  English/United States ^v

   Download More Dictionaries


does that help?


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Re: NetworkManager applet: force connection list refresh

[Pedro Francisco]

Killing nm-applet won't work as Gnome-Shell doesn't use (though it is loaded
it doesn't do anything)

But «service NetworkManager restart» does work.

I now have the following lines and seems to be working (sleep time is still
under test :p)

Thank you!

# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-vodafone-fix.rules
KERNEL=="usb0", RUN+="vodafone-fix.sh"


# cat /lib/udev/vodafone-fix.sh
#!/bin/sh

eject /dev/sr1
/sbin/ifconfig usb0 -arp

sleep 10
service NetworkManager restart



On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi  wrote:

> On 7 September 2011 11:10, Pedro Francisco 
> wrote:
> > Ok I give up (see below). Next attempt: Is there anyway to get the
> > old-but-functional nm-applet working on Gnome-Shell instead of the
> built-in
> > 'n buggy one?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Pedro Francisco <
> pedrogfranci...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there anyway to force the NetworkManager applet to refresh its list?
> >> Everytime I plug-in my 3G dongle (k3805-z) I have to either go to
> >> nm-connection-editor and toggle the option "Connection available for
> every
> >> user" or restart gnome-shell (ALT+F2, r) so the connection for the 3G
> dongle
> >> appears...
> >> Any ideas?
> >
>
> Sorry for late jumping into the thread.
> Prior to F15 there was NetworkManager service. In case of troubles
> with nm I used to restart it:
> service NetworkManager restart
> Perhaps you could write udev-rule to trigger nm-applet restarting when
> 3G dongle plugged-in.
> Just my 2 kopecks.
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Re: Documentation in deep

[Pete Travis]

This should give you some insight:

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html
On Sep 12, 2011 8:55 AM, "admin lewis"  wrote:
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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 12/09/11 11:30, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 07:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>  I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
>>  frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
>>  one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
>>  ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
>>  anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?
> ... or a way to make it do U.S. English, rather than U.K.
>

No, as I said, I can spell and I know the difference. It is set
to "American." It simply make poor chives [choices, I dropped
the O, not the best example] and often completely misses the
mark! Perhaps I should set it to UK English and make corrections
where required?

Thanks,

Bob



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Re: Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Ian Pilcher]

On 09/12/2011 07:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
> frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
> one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
> ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
> anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?

... or a way to make it do U.S. English, rather than U.K.

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Re: Howto avoid a process beeing paged out?

[Joe Wulf]

Bite bullet, add more physical memory.
For a time-critical process that seems like it is business critical, then 
do the right business decision.  Purchase more memory to get the job done.

R,
-Joe Wulf




>
>From: Clemens Eisserer 
>To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:19 AM
>Subject: Howto avoid a process beeing paged out?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I run a time-critical application on a vServer which seems to have very little 
>memory (even 512mb are guaranteed).
>Every page that hasn't been accessed the last few minutes is immediatly 
>swapped out, and if a request comes in the system is busy many seconds loading 
>the working-set of the application into memory again.
>
>Is there any way to prevent applications from beeing swapped out?
>I tried to call mlock(), but after this call dynamically loading shared 
>libraries failed :/
>
>Thanks, Clemens
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Re: Network printer not working, how to debug?

[Tim Waugh]

On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 11:55 -0700, Gordon Charrick wrote:
> I click the Network Printer dropdown under "Select Device" and the 
> printer shows up with the proper IP address. Under "Connection", "IPP 
> network printer via DNS-SD" is selected. I choose the driver and apply 
> the settings. It prompts to print a test page and I click to print it. 
> The job for the test page is submitted and a window with the settings 
> shows up and the Printer State shows as "Stopped - Destination printer 
> does not exist!". The Device URI is 
> "dnssd://Brother%20MFC-7860DW._ipp._tcp.local/".

Try using a different Device URI.  The error you're getting is because
the device URI doesn't include a queue name (because it couldn't be
detected, I suppose).

You may be able to find out the default queue name by visiting the
printer's web server (if it has one built-in), or by consulting the
printer's documentation.

Tim.
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Documentation in deep

[admin lewis]

Hi,
anyone could give me some doc hint to understand deeply the boot
process in fedora 15 ?
thanks
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Theunderbird alternative spellchecker -

[Bob Goodwin]

I can spell fairly well but I am a lousy typist and
frequently mistype words, mostly transpose letters or drop
one. The spellchecker with Thunderbird 6.0 seems worse than
ever, the suggestions it lists are frequently bizarre. Has
anyone else observed this and hopefully found an alternative?

Bob



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Re: selinux + mailman +postfix security problem (F14)

[Fulko Hew]

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Marcos Luis Ortiz Valmaseda <
marcosluis2...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Well, test it and say the response to us.
>

So the first issue was:
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/postalias from search access on the
directory /etc/postfix.

It then complained (one at a time) about:
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/postalias from read access on the file
/etc/postfix/main.cf.
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/postalias from open access on the file
/etc/postfix/main.cf.
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/postalias from getattr access on the file
/etc/postfix/main.cf.

So I  redid 'audit2allow' over and over to get past each problem.

...I can continue to do this, or disable SELinux, but I shouldn't have to,
   something else is wrong here.  ;-(

Finally, I can now create a new mailing list.


>
> 2011/8/25 Fulko Hew 
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Marcos Luis Ortiz Valmaseda <
>> marcosluis2...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you provide the ls -Z of your content in /etc/mailman/aliases
>>>
>>
>>  [root@netwatch log]# ls -Z /etc/mailman/aliases
>> -rw-rw. root mailman unconfined_u:object_r:mailman_data_t:s0
>> /etc/mailman/aliases
>>
>> A advice:, use sealert to see a more human-readable approach to analyze
>>> the SELinux logs.
>>>
>>
>> While waiting for a response from the list... I had just (discovered and)
>> done a:
>>
>> # grep postalias /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol
>> # semodule -i mypol.pp
>>
>> But I haven't tested it yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>  2011/8/25 Fulko Hew 
>>>
 On Fedora 14, I am setting up postfix and mailman.

 I had this working once, but I decided to yum erase postfix and mailman
 and redo the configuration to prove I knew how to recreate it.

 Turns out I don't know how to recreate a working combination
 because when creating a new list I now have mailman error log that
 talks about:

 command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1,
 Operation not permitted)

 and a corresponding AVC error:

 Aug 25 10:28:54 (null) (null): audit(1314282534.501:4326): avc: denied {
 search } for
 pid=12121 comm=postalias name=postfix ino=295074 dev=dm-0
 scontext=system_u:system_r:mailman_cgi_t:s0
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:postfix_etc_t:s0 tclass=dir

 Suggestions?

 Fulko

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Any way to disable wireless roaming?

[Sam Varshavchik]

I'm in hotel with multiple access points, apparently. The wireless is a bit  
dodgy. I see this pop up fairly regularly in /var/log/messages:


Sep 12 07:59:10 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: associating → disconnected
Sep 12 07:59:16 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: disconnected → associating
Sep 12 07:59:17 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: associating → completed
Sep 12 07:59:19 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): roamed from BSSID  
C4:10:8A:15:ED:39 (Wyndham-Guest) to C4:10:8A:15:F6:99 (Wyndham-Guest)
Sep 12 08:02:01 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: completed → disconnected
Sep 12 08:02:01 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: disconnected → scanning
Sep 12 08:02:02 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: scanning → associating
Sep 12 08:02:03 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): supplicant  
interface state: associating → completed
Sep 12 08:02:07 lc2440 NetworkManager[650]:  (eth1): roamed from BSSID  
C4:10:8A:15:F6:99 (Wyndham-Guest) to C4:10:8A:15:ED:49 (Wyndham-Guest)



Looks like every few minutes I'm hopping between access points. Any way to  
disable this – latch on to one of the access points, and stick ith it?




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Re: slim (simple login manager)

[Derek Tracy]

I tried installing slim last night to see if I could get it to work.  I
think there is a bug in slim, I tried editing the prefdm file along with
Xclients, I can get slim to start from command line and all is well but no
go from system startup.

Does anybody know the xauth command line slim uses when it is starting up?



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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:16 AM, John Schmitt <
cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 03:05:15PM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On 09/01/2011 02:58 PM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:49:59AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> On 08/31/2011 06:17 PM, John Schmitt wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:13:42AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh
> > >>> wrote:
> >  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> > 
> >  On 08/30/2011 07:01 PM, John Schmitt wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:52:54AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh
> > > wrote:
> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> On 08/28/2011 09:23 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> > >>> On 08/28/2011 03:21 AM,
> > >>> cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >  slim started up fine when this machine was running
> >  Fedora 14. I installed it from for Fedora 15:
> > 
> >  slim-1.3.2-8.fc15.x86_64
> > 
> >  It doesn't start any more.  I get this in
> >  /var/log/slim.log:
> > 
> >  slim: unexpected signal 15 sh: /usr/bin/xauth:
> >  Permission denied
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Check the permission of /usr/bin/xauth. They will be
> > >>> probably ok, so next move will be blaming selinux.
> > >>>
> > >> Looks to me like selinux.  I would check your labeling
> > >> on xaut ahd maybe on slim.
> > >
> > >
> > > $ ps -eZ | grep -i slim
> > >
> > > yields nothing because slim is not running.
> > >
> > > John
> >  Well can you logout of the X session and log in via a
> >  termanal or sshd to see what it is running as.
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess I don't understand.  The start up process has stopped,
> > >>> systemd says something about 'waiting for plymouth graphical
> > >>> boot screen' to end and then stops.  X is not running at this
> > >>> point.  I can press ALT+CTRL+F2 to open another terminal
> > >>> session and log in to look at /var/log/messages,
> > >>> /var/log/slim.log, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know if this helps, but I tried it again a few minutes
> > >>> ago and saw this in /var/log/messages:
> > >>>
> > >>> Aug 31 13:17:24 badboy systemd[1]: prefdm.service holdoff time
> > >>> over, scheduling restart. Aug 31 13:17:25 badboy ntpd[1047]:
> > >>> 0.0.0.0 c61c 0c clock_step +0.823605 s Aug 31 13:17:25 badboy
> > >>> ntpd[1047]: 0.0.0.0 c614 04 freq_mode Aug 31 13:17:25 badboy
> > >>> systemd[1]: prefdm.service holdoff time over, scheduling
> > >>> restart. Aug 31 13:17:26 badboy systemd[1]: prefdm.service
> > >>> holdoff time over, scheduling restart. Aug 31 13:17:26 badboy
> > >>> systemd[1]: prefdm.service holdoff time over, scheduling
> > >>> restart. Aug 31 13:17:26 badboy systemd[1]: prefdm.service
> > >>> holdoff time over, scheduling restart. Aug 31 13:17:26 badboy
> > >>> systemd[1]: prefdm.service holdoff time over, scheduling
> > >>> restart. Aug 31 13:17:26 badboy systemd[1]: prefdm.service
> > >>> start request repeated too quickly, refusing to start.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for helping me with this, Daniel.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ok get me the output of
> > >>
> > >> ausearch -m avc -ts recent or if audit is not runnind
> > >>
> > >> dmesg | grep avc
> > >
> > > $ sudo ausearch -m avc -ts recent 
> > >
> > > $ dmesg | grep -i avc [   79.382138] dbus[1072]: avc:  netlink
> > > poll: error 4
> > >
> > > Going back a few days I can see that ausearch reports a lot of AVC
> > > messages regarding wine-preloader and skype, but I can't imagine
> > > they're relevant here.
> > >
> > > John
> >
> >
> > I guess the question then is are we sure this is an SELinux issue?
>
> I don't think it is, which is why I filed my bug against slim and not
> selinux.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733944
>
> If we've ruled out SELinux, what else could it be?
>
> John
>
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Re: Help requested: Dosemu/Dosbox

[Frantisek Hanzlik]

Sanjay Arora wrote:
> Hello all
> 
> I have an old xbase/clipper program that I need to run on Linux. Tried it some
> time ago on Dosemu on CentOS. Need to run it on Fedora now as the new hardware
> does not load CentOS.
> 
> Found that Dosemu is missing from Fedora 15 and Dosbox is there instead.
> However, it clearly states that printing is not a priority for it and I need
> to print out to a Dot-Matrix printer.
> 
> Can someone advise why Dosemu has been dropped? And strangely I cannot find
> any repo that I can enable while maintaining fedora with protectbase yum
> plugingoogle searches yield rpm search engines with downloadable rpms but
> I can't seem to get to a repo.
> 
> Can someone please advise? Graphics & sound are not an issue for me and the
> use case is accounting.
> 
> With best regards.
> Sanjay.

There was any strange (for me) decision from fedora gurus about
DOSEMU - although both DOSEMU and FreeDOS have GPL licences, they
stated that dosemu cannot be in Fedora because FreeDOS is compiled
by non-free Watcom compiler.

Maybe now should be possible include DOSEMU to fedora main repo, as
FreeDOS can be assembled with OpenWatcom compiler.
Or, second way, is include DOSEMU into fedora repo without FreeDOS.

Till then, there is fortunately DOSEMU package in rpmfusion-free repo.

Franta Hanzlik
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Re: Howto avoid a process beeing paged out?

[Tom Horsley]

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:19:50 +0200
Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> I tried to call mlock(), but after this call dynamically loading shared
> libraries failed :/

mlock() is what you want, but it sounds like there isn't
enough memory to use mlock. I'd guess the server needs more memory
if it is going to run this critical app with no paging.
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Re: Help requested: Dosemu/Dosbox

[Sanjay Arora]

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Lewis Handy  wrote:

>
>
> You could always try a virtual machine with freedos, that is how I play all
>> my old dos games under linux these days.
>> --
>>
> What about printing on LPT/Parallel port in such a case?

Thanks.
Sanjay.
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Re: Help requested: Dosemu/Dosbox

[Lewis Handy]

On 12 September 2011 10:12, Sanjay Arora  wrote:

> Hello all
>
> I have an old xbase/clipper program that I need to run on Linux. Tried it
> some time ago on Dosemu on CentOS. Need to run it on Fedora now as the new
> hardware does not load CentOS.
>
> Found that Dosemu is missing from Fedora 15 and Dosbox is there instead.
> However, it clearly states that printing is not a priority for it and I need
> to print out to a Dot-Matrix printer.
>
> Can someone advise why Dosemu has been dropped? And strangely I cannot find
> any repo that I can enable while maintaining fedora with protectbase yum
> plugingoogle searches yield rpm search engines with downloadable rpms
> but I can't seem to get to a repo.
>
> Can someone please advise? Graphics & sound are not an issue for me and the
> use case is accounting.
>
> With best regards.
> Sanjay.
>
> You could always try a virtual machine with freedos, that is how I play all
> my old dos games under linux these days.
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Help requested: Dosemu/Dosbox

[Sanjay Arora]

Hello all

I have an old xbase/clipper program that I need to run on Linux. Tried it
some time ago on Dosemu on CentOS. Need to run it on Fedora now as the new
hardware does not load CentOS.

Found that Dosemu is missing from Fedora 15 and Dosbox is there instead.
However, it clearly states that printing is not a priority for it and I need
to print out to a Dot-Matrix printer.

Can someone advise why Dosemu has been dropped? And strangely I cannot find
any repo that I can enable while maintaining fedora with protectbase yum
plugingoogle searches yield rpm search engines with downloadable rpms
but I can't seem to get to a repo.

Can someone please advise? Graphics & sound are not an issue for me and the
use case is accounting.

With best regards.
Sanjay.
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Howto avoid a process beeing paged out?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

I run a time-critical application on a vServer which seems to have very
little memory (even 512mb are guaranteed).
Every page that hasn't been accessed the last few minutes is immediatly
swapped out, and if a request comes in the system is busy many seconds
loading the working-set of the application into memory again.

Is there any way to prevent applications from beeing swapped out?
I tried to call mlock(), but after this call dynamically loading shared
libraries failed :/

Thanks, Clemens
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Re: systems partitions on /mnt

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 09/11/2011 11:38 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
> drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 boot
> drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 home
> drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root 4096 Sep  9 04:30 var

All of them created at the same time.
Did you really install the system at 4:30 AM ? :-)

If not, maybe something in crontab went crazy.

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