[389-users] Odd SSL Issues

2011-10-04 Thread Craig T
Hi,

Setup:
Fedora 15 x64
* 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc15.x86_64
* 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.8-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-adminutil-1.1.14-1.fc15.x86_64
* 389-console-1.1.7-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-ds-1.2.2-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-ds-base-1.2.9.10-2.fc15.x86_64
* 389-ds-base-libs-1.2.9.10-2.fc15.x86_64
* 389-ds-console-1.2.6-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.6-1.fc15.noarch
* 389-dsgw-1.1.7-2.fc15.x86_64

Disclaimer:
I'm pretty new to 389 Directory Server so this might be a simple question. 

Goal: 
I am attempting to install a CA  server certificate, which I have signed by my 
own openssl CA. 

My Steps:
After using the 389 Console to generate my certificate request, I was then able 
to sign it with my openssl CA and install the cert (plus CA cert) into the 389 
Directory Server without issue. I then choose the;
- Enable SSL for this server option and selected the security device and 
server cert server-crt2.
- I checked the CA cert and it showed that there was no broken links in the 
certification paths. 

Issue: 
After restarting Directory Server, I was surprised to see the following error;
-
[04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL alert: Security Initialization: Can't find 
certificate (server-cert2) for family cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config (Netscape 
Portable Runtime error -8174 - security library: bad database.)
[04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL alert: Security Initialization: Unable to 
retrieve private key for cert server-cert2 of family 
cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config (Netscape Portable Runtime error -8174 - 
security library: bad database.)
[04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL failure: None of the cipher are valid
[04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - ERROR: SSL Initialization phase 2 Failed.
-


I feel like I must be missing something pretty obvious, any suggestions?

cya

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[389-users] Start TLS request accepted. Server willing to negotiate SSL

2011-10-04 Thread David Hoskinson
While attempting to change a directory password I keep getting this message...

[root@xxx ~]# ldappasswd -x -ZZ -D cn=directory manager -w mypass 
uid=se253264,ou=people,dc=xxx,dc=cle=dc=us -a oldpass -s newpass
ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11)
additional info: Start TLS request accepted.Server willing to negotiate 
SSL.

In researching this I found to add -d1 for additional debugging information and 
found this probably relevant

TLS: could not load client CA list 
(file:`',dir:`/etc/openldap/cacerts/cacert.asc').
TLS: error:0200A014:system library:opendir:Not a directory ssl_cert.c:816
TLS: error:140D7002:SSL routines:SSL_add_dir_cert_subjects_to_stack:system lib 
ssl_cert.c:818
ldap_perror

I do have the following in my /etc/ldap.conf file
ssl yes
tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts
TLS_REQCERT allow
pam_password exop

And the cacert.asc does exist in that directory.  This is the cacert.asc that 
was created during setup of this machine using the setupssl.sh script and I 
copied it to the requested directory.  I am not seeing anything additional on 
the HowtoSSL page and realize that TLS is necessary for the password change 
function.

Thanks for any help you may have.  I am also under the impression I am supposed 
to copy the cacert.asc to each client machine so they can authenticate against 
the cert. is this true also?
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Re: FC15 Upgrade Gnome Issue Dell Inspiron

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/03/2011 08:08 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 Gnome Shell - a tablet/phone like window system - won't run without
 decent 3D support - if 3D graphics not available it drops down to
 simpler interface. For some reason its the default DE on F15 even if not
 on a tablet PC.

Gnome Shell is the default WM for Gnome 3, and Fedora is Gnome-centric. 
  This being so, what other DE would you expect to be the default?
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Re: F15 - evolution crashes - abrt.conf

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:05:52 -0700, JZ (Joe) wrote:

  Do you have a user account athttp://bugzilla.redhat.com?
  Do you try to log in there yourself or via ABRT?
  In ABRT, you need to configure the bugzilla plugin Preferences with your
  account details.
 
 How do you do that?  I've been having trouble with my laptop because it 
 can't log in properly.  I reported that as a bug, but the suggestions in 
 comments don't work.

In abrt-gui:

  Edit  Preferences  Bugzilla  [Configure Event]

That opens a small dialog where you fill in your username and password
for your bugzilla.redhat.com account.

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Re: F15 - evolution crashes - abrt.conf

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 12:08 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 In abrt-gui:

Edit  Preferences  Bugzilla  [Configure Event]

 That opens a small dialog where you fill in your username and password
 for your bugzilla.redhat.com account.

Interesting.  Thank you.  I reported this on Bugzilla as a bug in abrt 
(It doesn't allow you to configure it properly.) and although a 
maintainer gave me various instructions, he never mentioned this.  Odd, 
isn't it?
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Re: installing a printer...

2011-10-04 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 17:12 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
 hello all, and thanks for Fedora 15 with Gnome3
 
 now my problem, i have an HP printer and on installation it asks for this file
 
 hplip-libs-3.11.3a-1.fc15.i686 requires hplip-common = 3.11.3a-1.fc15
 
 however i have this versions
 hplip-libs-3.11.7-2fc15
 hplip-common-3.11.7-2fc15
 
 I asume mine are higher but alas i cannot install the printer..

Could you please report a bug about this using Bugzilla?  If you aren't
sure what the correct component is, choose e.g. cups and I'll take a
look and direct it appropriately.

Thanks,
Tim.
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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:36:50 +0100, FM (Frank) wrote:

 On 03/10/11 02:24, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
  Don't think I want to open that, dunno why.
 
 
 My gmail addy was got at:
 There was a login from Turkey,
 Back in control of my gmail.

Just for the record, I don't believe you. I cannot believe you
based on the mail's envelope contents, which contained this:

Received: from frank01.frankly3d.local ([46.7.190.94])
 by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd6sm17286737wbb.1.2011.10.02.00.56.34
 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT)

Compare that with your recent messages:

Received: from frank01.frankly3d.local ([46.7.190.94])
 by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm21710881wbh.8.2011.10.02.23.36.50
 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:36:51 -0700 (PDT)

According to this, you've forwarded the spam mail to this list yourself
from your local machine. Someone would not be able to do with by
capturing your GMail account.
 
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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/04/2011 04:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Just for the record...

This isn't LawOrder and you're not Jack McCoy.  :-)

Somehow I can't see anything good coming out of impugning the character
of a fellow list member.

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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/10/11 09:41, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:36:50 +0100, FM (Frank) wrote:

 On 03/10/11 02:24, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
 Don't think I want to open that, dunno why.


 My gmail addy was got at:
 There was a login from Turkey,
 Back in control of my gmail.

 Just for the record, I don't believe you. I cannot believe you
 based on the mail's envelope contents, which contained this:

 Received: from frank01.frankly3d.local ([46.7.190.94])
   by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd6sm17286737wbb.1.2011.10.02.00.56.34
   (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT)

 Compare that with your recent messages:

 Received: from frank01.frankly3d.local ([46.7.190.94])
   by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm21710881wbh.8.2011.10.02.23.36.50
   (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:36:51 -0700 (PDT)

 According to this, you've forwarded the spam mail to this list yourself
 from your local machine. Someone would not be able to do with by
 capturing your GMail account.


That's all I found wrong.
And it hasn't happedned since p\w change.
So if somneone with more more experience, wants to give my box a tuneup, 
on their dime. Your more than welcome.

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Re: FC15 Upgrade Gnome Issue Dell Inspiron = Make Gnome a tablet spin

2011-10-04 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/04/2011 02:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/03/2011 08:08 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 Gnome Shell - a tablet/phone like window system - won't run without
 decent 3D support - if 3D graphics not available it drops down to
 simpler interface. For some reason its the default DE on F15 even if not
 on a tablet PC.
 
 Gnome Shell is the default WM for Gnome 3, and Fedora is Gnome-centric. 
   This being so, what other DE would you expect to be the default?

  I think polling the users might be interesting - indeed a tablet GUI
is great to have and I'm all for it ... for tablets .. not the default,
since most, if not all, fedora users have laptops, servers, or desktops.
Servers need a robust non-GUI so not important for DE question.

  I'd pick KDE - many folks like XFCE ..  KDE is a little more modern
and its quite configurable (as is XFCE), which is something most who are
responsible for managing computers strongly favor.

  I suggest we switch the Gnome shell to a tablet spin - though Android
may be a tough competitor if RH hopes to commercialize it.

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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:09:18 +0800, EG (Ed) wrote:

 On 10/04/2011 04:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  Just for the record...
 
 This isn't LawOrder and you're not Jack McCoy.  :-)

I guessed what the first could be and didn't have a clue who Jack McCoy
might be. Had to ask Google.

 Somehow I can't see anything good coming out of impugning the character
 of a fellow list member.

Next time, Frank will know better. This time his apologies should have
been sent to the list as Sorry, I made a mistake and forwarded a message
accidentally instead of claiming that someone from Turkey has sent the
message after hacking his account. Btw, that message also contained
 
| User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
|  rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110906 Thunderbird/6.0.2

in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
has not been abused by someone from Turkey.

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Re: FC15 Upgrade Gnome Issue Dell Inspiron = Make Gnome a tablet spin

2011-10-04 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 07:48 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
   I suggest we switch the Gnome shell to a tablet spin

And call the spin, the bitter pill.

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Re: [389-users] Start TLS request accepted. Server willing to negotiate SSL

2011-10-04 Thread Angel Bosch Mora
is not the same 

/etc/ldap.conf 

than 

/etc/openldap/ldap.conf 

seems that you're missing second one. 







While attempting to change a directory password I keep getting this message… 



[root@xxx ~]# ldappasswd -x -ZZ -D cn=directory manager -w “mypass” 
uid=se253264,ou=people,dc=xxx,dc=cle=dc=us -a oldpass -s newpass 

ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11) 

additional info: Start TLS request accepted.Server willing to negotiate SSL. 



In researching this I found to add –d1 for additional debugging information and 
found this probably relevant 



TLS: could not load client CA list 
(file:`',dir:`/etc/openldap/cacerts/cacert.asc'). 

TLS: error:0200A014:system library:opendir:Not a directory ssl_cert.c:816 

TLS: error:140D7002:SSL routines:SSL_add_dir_cert_subjects_to_stack:system lib 
ssl_cert.c:818 

ldap_perror 



I do have the following in my /etc/ldap.conf file 

ssl yes 

tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts 

TLS_REQCERT allow 

pam_password exop 



And the cacert.asc does exist in that directory. This is the cacert.asc that 
was created during setup of this machine using the setupssl.sh script and I 
copied it to the requested directory. I am not seeing anything additional on 
the HowtoSSL page and realize that TLS is necessary for the password change 
function. 



Thanks for any help you may have. I am also under the impression I am supposed 
to copy the cacert.asc to each client machine so they can authenticate against 
the cert. is this true also? 

David Hoskinson | DATATRAK International 
Systems Engineer 
Mayfield Heights, Ohio, USA 
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@Michael Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/10/11 14:56, Michael Schwendt wrote:
snipped

 in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
 has not been abused by someone from Turkey.


That is true, I did have to logout all other sessins,
and do you recoginse all recent activity or similar words.
It is also true that 6.02 is the current version of TB I use.

If you wan't to help.
Can sonething be sent without me knowing about it?
Is the fact that my isp email is routed through gmail a factor
(plain password) pulled every 30\60 min?

I recently switch from imap to pop (circa month)
free limit being reached.
would that have an affect?

rkhunter shows nothing.

Cisco router I cannot tell, as no user config possible.
My isp uses reserved blocks 192..

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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread g

On 10/03/2011 10:09 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On 03/10/11 10:37, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
 Is your password still a 'password'?

 ;-)
 Frank
 --
 No, probably upgraded to secret

 
 Actually this is the no longer used password for anything of mine
 CFF63669B89A1E53392CE7670807835E1FA9163BD77AC9209E488FBDA04D
 
 I presumed 60 was long enough.

if you want to find out, enter it at this link;

  https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm


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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread suvayu ali
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote:
    * System Accounts. Fedora now standardizes on login.defs as
 authority for UID/GID space allocation, and has moved boundary between
 system and user accounts from 500 to 1000 to match conventions
 followed by several other Linux distributions. Upgrading from a
 existing release will not be affected by this change and you can use
 kickstart to override this change during installation if necessary.


When one preupgrades to F16 do the old 500+ user ids get converted to
1000+, or is it expected the user will do this manually? In any case I
would be interested in knowing how to do this manually.

Thanks,

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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread suvayu ali
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:55 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 In any case I would be interested in knowing how to do this manually.

I see that usermod can do this[1], but I'm not sure if there will be
conflicts with existing files after the change.

Footnotes:

[1] Possible with the -g and -u option, but the man page says -g will
work only if the group is already existing. How does one create a
group?

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Re: [389-users] Start TLS request accepted. Server willing to negotiate SSL

2011-10-04 Thread David Hoskinson
I knew I should have mentioned that.  The /etc/openldap/ldap.conf has the same 
entry

TLS_CACERTDIR /etc/openldap/cacerts/cacert.asc
TLS_REQCERT allow

However I did notice that I was using CACERTDIR instead of CACERT to point at 
the file…
Now I have
TLS_CACERT /etc/openldap/cacerts/cacert.asc

I now get this message which seems to be progress but still failing. That the 
hostname did not match the cert name and was giving ip as hostname.  Changed 
host line in /etc/ldap.conf and /etc/openldap/ldap.conf to read fqdn instead of 
ip addresses and now no more problems.

Thanks for making me look at it again so I noticed my error



From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Angel Bosch Mora
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:12 AM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Subject: Re: [389-users] Start TLS request accepted. Server willing to 
negotiate SSL

is not the same

/etc/ldap.conf

than

/etc/openldap/ldap.conf

seems that you're missing second one.

While attempting to change a directory password I keep getting this message…

[root@xxx ~]# ldappasswd -x -ZZ -D cn=directory manager -w “mypass” 
uid=se253264,ou=people,dc=xxx,dc=cle=dc=us -a oldpass -s newpass
ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11)
additional info: Start TLS request accepted.Server willing to negotiate 
SSL.

In researching this I found to add –d1 for additional debugging information and 
found this probably relevant

TLS: could not load client CA list 
(file:`',dir:`/etc/openldap/cacerts/cacert.asc').
TLS: error:0200A014:system library:opendir:Not a directory ssl_cert.c:816
TLS: error:140D7002:SSL routines:SSL_add_dir_cert_subjects_to_stack:system lib 
ssl_cert.c:818
ldap_perror

I do have the following in my /etc/ldap.conf file
ssl yes
tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts
TLS_REQCERT allow
pam_password exop

And the cacert.asc does exist in that directory.  This is the cacert.asc that 
was created during setup of this machine using the setupssl.sh script and I 
copied it to the requested directory.  I am not seeing anything additional on 
the HowtoSSL page and realize that TLS is necessary for the password change 
function.

Thanks for any help you may have.  I am also under the impression I am supposed 
to copy the cacert.asc to each client machine so they can authenticate against 
the cert. is this true also?
David Hoskinson | DATATRAK International
Systems Engineer
Mayfield Heights, Ohio, USA
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Compiz download problems ?

2011-10-04 Thread William Case
I am getting the following warnings when I try to update.

ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
compiz-fusion-extras = 0.8.6 is needed by
compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64
Please report this error at http://yum.baseurl.org/report

Test Transaction Errors:   file /usr/lib64/compiz/libgrid.so from
install of compiz-plugins-main-0.9.5.0-1.fc15.x86_64 conflicts with file
from package compiz-fusion-extras-0.9.4-1.fc15.x86_64

I have stopped all compiz, emerald and ccsm updates and the rest of my
updates upload without problems.

Is anybody else having this problem or should I file a bug?

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Re: Blank SELinux alerts

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 10/03/2011 04:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/03/2011 01:16 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 Seems like you got a screwed up database.  You might want to 
 delete the xml files in /var/lib/setroubleshoot.
 
 killall -Z setroubleshootd_t
 /var/lib/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_database.xml
 Should clear the database
 
 If restarting auditd doesn't work, I'll try that next.  Will I
 need to restart auditd again after doing that?
No.
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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread JD
On 10/04/2011 07:55 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
 Hi,

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dennis Gilmoreden...@ausil.us  wrote:
 * System Accounts. Fedora now standardizes on login.defs as
 authority for UID/GID space allocation, and has moved boundary between
 system and user accounts from 500 to 1000 to match conventions
 followed by several other Linux distributions. Upgrading from a
 existing release will not be affected by this change and you can use
 kickstart to override this change during installation if necessary.

 When one preupgrades to F16 do the old 500+ user ids get converted to
 1000+, or is it expected the user will do this manually? In any case I
 would be interested in knowing how to do this manually.

 Thanks,

Where are the ISO's for F16 Beta?
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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
suvayu ali wrote:
 I see that usermod can do this[1], but I'm not sure if there will be
 conflicts with existing files after the change.

If you are using plain authentication and not something like LDAP you 
can use usermod and edit groups with groupmod. You can manually edit 
/etc/passwd or /etc/group, but you will have to manually run chown 
across all files with the old UID/GID to update them to the new UID/GID.

After you make the GID change you will have to change the ownership of 
your home to match the new GID:

# chgrp -R group /home/user

(per the groupmod[1] man page)

Also, delete any /tmp files with your old UID and chown files outside of 
/home. (per the usermod[2] man page)

# chown -R user:group /opt/foo/dir

[1] Any files that have the old group ID and must continue to belong to
 GROUP, must have their group ID changed manually.
[2] The ownership of files outside of the user´s home directory must be
 fixed manually.
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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 08:15:18 -0700
JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are the ISO's for F16 Beta?

The same place(es) that any pre-release Fedora are: 

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

(That has torrent and direct link options). 

kevin


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Re: Downgrade to KDE 4.6?

2011-10-04 Thread Neal Becker
Manuel Escudero wrote:

 Some time ago, I upgraded my KDE to 4.7 but it is very buggy (I'm on F15)
 so I want to return to KDE 4.6 is it possible? How can it be done?
 
 Thanks!
 

What sort of problems do you experience?

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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread JD
On 10/04/2011 08:33 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 08:15:18 -0700
 JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Where are the ISO's for F16 Beta?
 The same place(es) that any pre-release Fedora are:

 http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

 (That has torrent and direct link options).

 kevin
Thanx.
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Re: @Michael Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:54:30 +0100, FM (Frank) wrote:

  in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
  has not been abused by someone from Turkey.
 
 
 That is true, I did have to logout all other sessins,
 and do you recoginse all recent activity or similar words.
 It is also true that 6.02 is the current version of TB I use.

You would need to develop a theory why somebody else would forward a
message from one of your folders at GMail -- the spam message has been
received by you at GMail via your Fedora Project address alias on Oct 2nd
according to its headers -- using exactly the same Thunderbird version and
Linux OS version identifier, the same time-zone, the same machine
hostname, _and_ exactly your IP address at UPC Ireland.

 If you wan't to help.
 Can sonething be sent without me knowing about it?

Sure. With username and password, somebody can abuse your account via
IMAP, SMTP, POP, or even the web interface. Google Mail displays a list of
previous logins in its web interface. And by default, it stores copies of
messages sent via SMTP in the Sent folder.

 Is the fact that my isp email is routed through gmail a factor
 (plain password) pulled every 30\60 min?

Can you explain the setup in detail?

 rkhunter shows nothing.

There is a huge difference between capturing only a Google Mail account
passphrase and an entire Linux machine connected to the Internet.
You would need an even better theory about why somebody (from Turkey)
with access to your computer would be so stupid and on your computer use
Thunderbird to forward a single spam message to a list you're subscribed
to. Much too big of a risk to be discovered. Rootkits exist in order to
retain access to a remote machine. They try to hide themselves.

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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!

2011-10-04 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 16:55 +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote:
 * System Accounts. Fedora now standardizes on login.defs as
  authority for UID/GID space allocation, and has moved boundary between
  system and user accounts from 500 to 1000 to match conventions
  followed by several other Linux distributions. Upgrading from a
  existing release will not be affected by this change and you can use
  kickstart to override this change during installation if necessary.
 
 
 When one preupgrades to F16 do the old 500+ user ids get converted to
 1000+, or is it expected the user will do this manually? In any case I
 would be interested in knowing how to do this manually.


No user IDs should EVER be altered automatically. This is unsafe,
because it would change file access on the disk (and potentially result
in a system that was inaccessible).

You probably don't want to change this yourself either, but if you
REALLY want to change IDs, you would need to use /usr/sbin/usermod to
change the user's ID, then you would want to run a complicated 'find'
command starting at the root of the filesystem to search for any file
owned by the old UID and chown it. Then you'd have to repeat this for
every user and every group. And then if you have data stored on
removable disks or network shares, you need to handle those too...

DO NOT DO THIS! It's only going to cause you problems.


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Re: installing a printer...

2011-10-04 Thread g

On 10/03/2011 09:42 PM, Dokuro wrote:
 hello all, and thanks for Fedora 15 with Gnome3
 
 now my problem, i have an HP printer and on installation it asks for this
 file
 
 hplip-libs-3.11.3a-1.fc15.i686 requires hplip-common = 3.11.3a-1.fc15
 
 however i have this versions hplip-libs-3.11.7-2fc15 
 hplip-common-3.11.7-2fc15
 
 I asume mine are higher but alas i cannot install the printer..
 
 any ideas ? :)

nothing solid. a swag might be;

  ln -s /pathsto/hplip-*-3.11.7-2fc15 /pathsto/hplip-*-3.11.3a-1.fc15


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Error running Virtual Machine Manager

2011-10-04 Thread Sanjay Arora
I am running fedora 15. Trying to do first VM install. Getting the following
error while libvirtd running. Restarted it and still same error...

Error: Virtual Machine Manager Connection Failure
Unable to open a connection to the libvirt management daemon.

Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started

authentication failed

Details:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py, line 1055, in
_try_open
None], flags)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/libvirt.py, line 107, in
openAuth
if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
libvirtError: authentication failed

What to do?

With best regards.
Sanjay.
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Re: @Michael Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/10/11 16:49, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:54:30 +0100, FM (Frank) wrote:

 in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
 has not been abused by someone from Turkey.


 That is true, I did have to logout all other sessins,
 and do you recoginse all recent activity or similar words.
 It is also true that 6.02 is the current version of TB I use.

 You would need to develop a theory why somebody else would forward a
 message from one of your folders at GMail -- the spam message has been
 received by you at GMail via your Fedora Project address alias on Oct 2nd
 according to its headers --using exactly the same Thunderbird version and
 Linux OS version identifier, the same time-zone, the same machine
 hostname, _and_ exactly your IP address at UPC Ireland.

No idea, but I have received spam from my own email address before.



 If you wan't to help.
 Can sonething be sent without me knowing about it?

 Sure. With username and password, somebody can abuse your account via
 IMAP, SMTP, POP, or even the web interface. Google Mail displays a list of
 previous logins in its web interface. And by default, it stores copies of
 messages sent via SMTP in the Sent folder.

 Is the fact that my isp email is routed through gmail a factor
 (plain password) pulled every 30\60 min?

 Can you explain the setup in detail?


Originally in Gmail, it allows you can get other pop email
by entering email address and password.
It won't pull an exe attachment.

My isp does not use https, even for their webmail.

 rkhunter shows nothing.

 There is a huge difference between capturing only a Google Mail account
 passphrase and an entire Linux machine connected to the Internet.
 You would need an even better theory about why somebody (from Turkey)

Still no idea.

 with access to your computer would be so stupid and on your computer use
 Thunderbird to forward a single spam message to a list you're subscribed
 to. Much too big of a risk to be discovered. Rootkits exist in order to
 retain access to a remote machine. They try to hide themselves.


Only my eldest son the gamer
had tried to do anything foolish on this PC.
I don't use a screensaver, as I can never recall the password.
I keep it on a usb stick.

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Re: [389-users] passsync - ldap error in queryusername

2011-10-04 Thread Aaron Hagopian
Rich,



access log on the 389 machine?  what version of 389-ds-base?  what platform?


It doesn't look like the AD server has ever shown up in the access log so I
imagine this is purely a passsync issue.

We are running Windows Server 2008 R2.  My hunch is that UAC is messing this
up.  When I went to check on the settings under the change option from
add/remove programs, all the options are blank.  I then re-input them all
and upon bringing up the settings again, the options are still blank.

Any ideas how to beat UAC for this?  We may need to disable UAC, change the
settings and then re-enable UAC which unfortunately takes a lot of reboots.

[root@claw slapd-claw]# rpm -qi 389-ds-base
Name: 389-ds-base  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.2.8.3   Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Mon 02 May 2011
11:36:56 AM CDT
Install Date: Tue 28 Jun 2011 08:02:38 AM CDT  Build Host:
x86-10.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Group   : System Environment/DaemonsSource RPM:
389-ds-base-1.2.8.3-1.el5.src.rpm
Size: 4953090  License: GPLv2 with
exceptions
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 02 May 2011 12:00:08 PM CDT, Key ID
119cc036217521f6
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://port389.org/
Summary : 389 Directory Server (base)

x86_64 RHEL 5


Thanks,
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updating users and groups (was Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!)

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 October 2011 16:50, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 16:55 +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
 Hi,

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote:
     * System Accounts. Fedora now standardizes on login.defs as
  authority for UID/GID space allocation, and has moved boundary between
  system and user accounts from 500 to 1000 to match conventions
  followed by several other Linux distributions. Upgrading from a
  existing release will not be affected by this change and you can use
  kickstart to override this change during installation if necessary.
 

 When one preupgrades to F16 do the old 500+ user ids get converted to
 1000+, or is it expected the user will do this manually? In any case I
 would be interested in knowing how to do this manually.


 No user IDs should EVER be altered automatically. This is unsafe,
 because it would change file access on the disk (and potentially result
 in a system that was inaccessible).

 You probably don't want to change this yourself either, but if you
 REALLY want to change IDs, you would need to use /usr/sbin/usermod to
 change the user's ID, then you would want to run a complicated 'find'
 command starting at the root of the filesystem to search for any file
 owned by the old UID and chown it. Then you'd have to repeat this for
 every user and every group. And then if you have data stored on
 removable disks or network shares, you need to handle those too...

 DO NOT DO THIS! It's only going to cause you problems.


No need for a (not that complex) find command, see the chown option:
--from=CURRENT_OWNER:CURRENT_GROUP, in conjunction with -R and -L this
makes life fairly easy. Genuinely removeable shares (i.e. those you
might take between computers) have issues with UIDs anyway and are
probably running something without it (e.g. NTFS), semi-removable
shares (e.g. USB drives that are always connected to your machine)
just need to be mounted when you do this.

You would still need to do it for all groups and users that you were
updating, I agree you really don't want to update an existing system
unless you have to (to make it play well with Ubuntu for instance).

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Re: Error running Virtual Machine Manager

2011-10-04 Thread Sanjay Arora
Ahh...got it...seems its a buglaunched from cli as root and no probs
anymore...sorry to bother you all ;-)
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Re: [389-users] passsync - ldap error in queryusername

2011-10-04 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/04/2011 10:29 AM, Aaron Hagopian wrote:

Rich,



access log on the 389 machine?  what version of 389-ds-base?  what
platform?


It doesn't look like the AD server has ever shown up in the access log 
so I imagine this is purely a passsync issue.


We are running Windows Server 2008 R2.  My hunch is that UAC is 
messing this up.  When I went to check on the settings under the 
change option from add/remove programs, all the options are blank. 
 I then re-input them all and upon bringing up the settings again, the 
options are still blank.


Any ideas how to beat UAC for this?  We may need to disable UAC, 
change the settings and then re-enable UAC which unfortunately takes a 
lot of reboots.
I don't know.  I've never seen this before.  Are you logged into the 
Windows DC as Administrator?


[root@claw slapd-claw]# rpm -qi 389-ds-base
Name: 389-ds-base  Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 1.2.8.3   Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Mon 02 May
2011 11:36:56 AM CDT
Install Date: Tue 28 Jun 2011 08:02:38 AM CDT  Build Host:
x86-10.phx2.fedoraproject.org http://x86-10.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Group   : System Environment/DaemonsSource RPM:
389-ds-base-1.2.8.3-1.el5.src.rpm
Size: 4953090  License: GPLv2 with
exceptions
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 02 May 2011 12:00:08 PM CDT, Key ID
119cc036217521f6
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://port389.org/
Summary : 389 Directory Server (base)

x86_64 RHEL 5


Thanks,
Aaron




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Re: [389-users] Odd SSL Issues

2011-10-04 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/04/2011 01:17 AM, Craig T wrote:
 Hi,

 Setup:
 Fedora 15 x64
 * 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc15.x86_64
 * 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.8-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-adminutil-1.1.14-1.fc15.x86_64
 * 389-console-1.1.7-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-ds-1.2.2-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-ds-base-1.2.9.10-2.fc15.x86_64
 * 389-ds-base-libs-1.2.9.10-2.fc15.x86_64
 * 389-ds-console-1.2.6-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.6-1.fc15.noarch
 * 389-dsgw-1.1.7-2.fc15.x86_64

 Disclaimer:
 I'm pretty new to 389 Directory Server so this might be a simple question.

 Goal:
 I am attempting to install a CA  server certificate, which I have signed by 
 my own openssl CA.

 My Steps:
 After using the 389 Console to generate my certificate request, I was then 
 able to sign it with my openssl CA and install the cert (plus CA cert) into 
 the 389 Directory Server without issue. I then choose the;
 - Enable SSL for this server option and selected the security device and 
 server cert server-crt2.
 - I checked the CA cert and it showed that there was no broken links in the 
 certification paths.

 Issue:
 After restarting Directory Server, I was surprised to see the following error;
 -
 [04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL alert: Security Initialization: Can't find 
 certificate (server-cert2) for family cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config 
 (Netscape Portable Runtime error -8174 - security library: bad database.)
 [04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL alert: Security Initialization: Unable to 
 retrieve private key for cert server-cert2 of family 
 cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config (Netscape Portable Runtime error -8174 - 
 security library: bad database.)
 [04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - SSL failure: None of the cipher are valid
 [04/Oct/2011:17:39:09 +1100] - ERROR: SSL Initialization phase 2 Failed.
 -


 I feel like I must be missing something pretty obvious, any suggestions?
ls -al /etc/dirsrv/slapd-yourinstance
certutil -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd-yourinstance -L

if it doesn't show a cert named server-cert2 then it is possible that 
the console did not properly install the SSL cert
 cya

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I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread Linda McLeod
Is there a link to download ALL Fedora-14 updates all at once in one
huge file..?
All I've found is a link to download each update separately...

Here's my little problem..  My PC is hit nearly every week or two by
hateful bullies..  I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is
after I've laboured for several hours to customize it to my liking..  I
need all my peripheral programs and files to be in that install.. 
Please link me to a site that tells how it's done..  Ten years I've been
trying to make such an install disk, and just can't get through it..  It
makes me feel so darn stupid and small that I can't do this simple
little thing...  If ever I do get it one day, I'll probably be bouncing
in my chair till it or my bum breaks...  Please tell how it's done...

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Re: FC15 Upgrade Gnome Issue Dell Inspiron = Make Gnome a tablet spin

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 04:48 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
I suggest we switch the Gnome shell to a tablet spin - though Android
 may be a tough competitor if RH hopes to commercialize it.

That's an interesting idea, but this isn't the right place for it.  I 
know that there are several lists for the Fedora devs, and one of them 
would probably be more appropriate because you'd be writing to people 
who actually have some control over that.

Personally, I'd like to see Fedora move to XFCE for two reasons: I use 
it and, more important, I think it's about time there was a major distro 
built around it.
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Re: updating users and groups (was Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!)

2011-10-04 Thread Tom Horsley
Speaking of system users  1000 now, does system-config-users
still think 500 is the magic number? I could swear I remember
seeing a bunch of strange users various services installed
to provide themselves a unique user when I run s-c-u on
f16, but didn't stop to think about it at the time. Usually
it hides the system users so the display isn't cluttered.
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Re: Error running Virtual Machine Manager

2011-10-04 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Sanjay,

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Sanjay Arora sanjay.k.ar...@gmail.com wrote:
 seems its a bug

No it is not a bug. You need to run the libvirtd daemon before you can
use hardware virtualised machines. I would also advise against your
current workaround of running GUI apps as root. On F14 something like
this should resolve the error,

# chkconfig --level 35 libvirtd on # libvirtd on for runlevel 3  5
# service libvirtd start # starts libvirtd now

For F15 you will have to use the corresponding systemd commands. I
can't help you with that.

GL

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Re: @Michael Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:07:29 +0100, FM (Frank) wrote:

 No idea, but I have received spam from my own email address before.

That's something completely else, and a known form of abuse.

And it isn't accurate to say from my own email address. For spam, the
email address listed in spam messages typically has nothing to do with the
origin of the mail. With the old mail protocols and many mail servers it
is too easy to insert arbitrary sender addresses.

If you want to examine _from where_ a mail was sent, you cannot avoid
displaying and analyzing the mail headers. Bottom up and eliminating
any forged headers somebody may have inserted there.

  Is the fact that my isp email is routed through gmail a factor
  (plain password) pulled every 30\60 min?
 
  Can you explain the setup in detail?
 
 
 Originally in Gmail, it allows you can get other pop email
 by entering email address and password.
 It won't pull an exe attachment.

You mean the Mail Fetcher? If so, you would enter your ISP mail account
details there, not your Google Mail passphrase. One would need to examine
your ISP's POP server for details, such as SSL/TLS usage.
 
 My isp does not use https, even for their webmail.

But your GMail passphrase is not the same as the one you use for you ISP,
is it? ;)

 Only my eldest son the gamer
 had tried to do anything foolish on this PC.
 I don't use a screensaver, as I can never recall the password.
 I keep it on a usb stick.

Ah, fresh theories! Lovely. :-)
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/27/129090941151506207.jpg

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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 06:56 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
 has not been abused by someone from Turkey.

Thank you, McGeek.  Give yourself a probie snack.
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RE: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I'velaboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread da...@mich.com

You may want to try:

http://www.mondorescue.org/

This has worked for me.

Also, if your install is small enough, you can use
the 'dd' command to backup/restore a disk image of
the whole partition to a flash drive. This is what I
typically do these days.

Either way is reasonably fast to restore and has has
worked well for me.

Dave M.

--- Original Message ---
From: Linda McLeod[mailto:lindavald...@fastmail.fm]
Sent: 10/4/2011 1:06:35 PM
To  : users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc  : 
Subject : RE: I need to make an install iso of the OS
the way it is after I'velaboured for several hours to
customized it...

 Is there a link to download ALL Fedora-14 updates
all at once in one
huge file..?
All I've found is a link to download each update
separately...

Here's my little problem..  My PC is hit nearly every
week or two by
hateful bullies..  I need to make an install iso of
the OS the way it is
after I've laboured for several hours to customize it
to my liking..  I
need all my peripheral programs and files to be in
that install.. 
Please link me to a site that tells how it's done.. 
Ten years I've been
trying to make such an install disk, and just can't
get through it..  It
makes me feel so darn stupid and small that I can't
do this simple
little thing...  If ever I do get it one day, I'll
probably be bouncing
in my chair till it or my bum breaks...  Please tell
how it's done...

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Re: @Michael Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 09:07 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
 I don't use a screensaver, as I can never recall the password.

You don't need a password for your screensaver unless you lock the screen.
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Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 10:06 AM, Linda McLeod wrote:
 Is there a link to download ALL Fedora-14 updates all at once in one
 huge file..?
 All I've found is a link to download each update separately...

No, because there's no point to such a thing.  When you install F14 and 
run update for the first time, you get the most recent version of 
everything.  Doing it your way would update you step-by-step across 
hundreds of updates for some of the programs, installing version after 
version until you reached the present.  Why do it the hard way when the 
default is easier and faster?
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Re: Error running Virtual Machine Manager

2011-10-04 Thread Sanjay Arora
Suvayu

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:40 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.comwrote:


 No it is not a bug. You need to run the libvirtd daemon before you can
 use hardware virtualised machines. I would also advise against your
 current workaround of running GUI apps as root.

Agree with you on not running gui apps as rootfound listed bug for f13
and assumed the same on f15, so took that shortcut temporarily.


 On F14 something like
 this should resolve the error,

 # chkconfig --level 35 libvirtd on # libvirtd on for runlevel 3  5
 # service libvirtd start # starts libvirtd now

 was already done...libvirtd was running...on my machine chkconfig --list
shows levels 3, 4  5 as on.

But I was running from vnc, with selinux on warn..so that should not have
caused the prob...i'll check up selinux issues once again...maybe test with
selinux off.

Rgds.
Sanjay.
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Re: Error running Virtual Machine Manager

2011-10-04 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Sanjay,

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Sanjay Arora sanjay.k.ar...@gmail.com wrote:
 assumed the same on f15, so took that shortcut temporarily.


 On F14 something like
 this should resolve the error,

 # chkconfig --level 35 libvirtd on # libvirtd on for runlevel 3  5
 # service libvirtd start # starts libvirtd now

 was already done...libvirtd was running...on my machine chkconfig --list
 shows levels 3, 4  5 as on.

AFAIK, chkconfig output in F15 can be unreliable (as mentioned
somewhere in the wiki). You should be using systemd commands. I
believe it is systemctl. See the release notes and the systemd wiki
page for more details.

GL

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Corrupted evolution databases

2011-10-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I had a crash that caused some filesystem errors, and after restarting,
evolution reports that it can't view some of my mail and RSS feed
folders because database disk image is malformed.

Is this something that can be recovered?  If so, how?

TIA.
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Re: NetworkManager user agent

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Locke
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 01:01 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 When selecting a previously unknown wireless network, I am not getting  
 prompted for the password. NetworkManager just complains in  
 /var/log/messages that Access point {name} has security, but secrets are  
 required, then gives up.
 
 I figured out that I can launch nm-connection-editor, and find my way to an  
 obscure dialog where I can enter the wireless password, but this seems  
 wrong. As I recall, selecting an previously unknown network from nm-applet,  
 should result in me being automatically prompted for the password, directly.  
 
 Some googling found this:
 
 http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/ref-migrating.html#id565872
 
 So, which package contains the user agent that prompts for wireless password?
 

For me, downloading the packages from the following fixed the problem:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-3.git20110927.fc15

Not sure if it has hit updates-testing yet

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KVM virtual machine transfer query

2011-10-04 Thread Sanjay Arora
Hello all

I have a question. Can a kvm virtual machine, a linux or windows guest,
generated of fedora, be transfered to a rhel machine and started? or vice
versa?

Please note, I am not talking of live migration. Just transferring files
generated on one OS  running on the another? And what if hardware of the
machines is different?

With best regards.
Sanjay.
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Re: Corrupted evolution databases

2011-10-04 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:34 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:50 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I had a crash that caused some filesystem errors, and after restarting,
  evolution reports that it can't view some of my mail and RSS feed
  folders because database disk image is malformed.
  
  Is this something that can be recovered?  If so, how?
  
  TIA.
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  mjs AT clemson DOT edu
  
 
 Usually if you run: evolution --force-shutdown
 Then go to:
 .local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox
 and : rm Inbox.ibex.index
 and restart evolution , things will straighten out.
Correction.
That is for F15 . In earlier versions of Fedora it was in local not
local_mbox.


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Fedora 16 beta vice Knoppix

2011-10-04 Thread JB
Hi,

I performed a simple home test, a comparison of startup and shutdown times of:
- Live-CD Fedora 16 beta - systemd parallel boot, GNOME 3
- Live-CD Knoppix 6.7.1 - microknoppix-fast-parallel-boot (based on SysV/LSB
  scripts), LXDE;
  note that Knoppix does decompression while executing

The times measured were:
t1 - time between machine turned ON and showing of live system DE menu 
t2 - time between machine Shutdown from DE menu and actual machine shutdown

Note: no custom configuration or other user activities were performed.

Notebook 1:
---
Lenovo TP R61i, Intel Pentium Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHZ, Intel Mobile 965GM,
2 GB RAM, HD, CD-RW, sound, internal ethernet and wireless.

F16 beta
average t1=3m8s
average t2=10s

Knoppix
average t1=1m37s
average t2=20s

Notebook 2:
---
HP Nx6110, Intel Celeron M 1.3 GHZ, Intel Mobile 915GM, 768 MB RAM, HD, CD-RW,
sound, internal ethernet.

F16 beta
average t1=3m42s
average t2=26s

Knoppix
average t1=2m38s
average t2=20s

Results interpretation.
---
Knoppix won by a wide margin, while:
- Knoppix having microknoppix fast-parallel boot (based on SysV/LSB scripts)
  and DE with low resources usage and tailored for desktops
- Fedora having systemd parallel boot and DE tailored for small and simple
  devices

JB


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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 10/03/2011 09:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:04:06 -0600
 Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote:
 
 I am a refugee from Fedora 15's Gnome-3 that has found 
 refuge in Xfce.  I'm am only sad that Gnome-3 didn't come 
 out sooner so I could find Xfce sooner -- it meets my needs
 and expectations very well.
 
 However, I am having one issue since I changed... I leave
 my machine on and running overnight (have a bittorrent 
 client running) but the next morning I find I am logged
 out.  This happened again last night.  According the logs 
 there was no reboot.  'last' is hard to interpret but I 
 *think* it shows I left the machine around 22:56 last 
 night and was logged out at 23:33.  
 
 I have not been able to find any setting that might be 
 responsible for this.  Any suggestions about where to look?
 (This is a desktop machine and power management is set
 to none on external power.  Screensaver is set for 30 min
 but not set to logout or even lock screen and test this
 morning indicates it is not culprit.)
 
 Possibly you hit a screensaver that's crashing your X server? 
 Try setting it to just 'blank' for a while?
 also, look at ~/.xsession-errors for any crashes or other info.

Yes, that seems to be the problem.

Nothing that seemed useful in .xsession-errors, but I was 
able to run xscreensaver manually with the log option and 
a short (1 minute) time interval for changing the screensavers.

After about 1.5 hours, xscreensaver died with this at the
end of the log file:

[...]
xscreensaver: 12:44:46: 0: child pid 17369 (polyominoes) terminated with signal 
15.

xscreensaver: 12:44:46: 0: visual 0x21 (TrueColor,   depth: 24, cmap: 256)
xscreensaver: 12:44:46: 0: saver window is 0x8000aa.
xscreensaver: 12:44:46: 0: destroyed old saver window 0x8000a8.
xscreensaver: 12:44:46: 0: spawning cubenetic -root in pid 17386.
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: killing pid 17386 (cubenetic)
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: child pid 17386 (cubenetic) terminated with signal 15
.
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: visual 0x21 (TrueColor,   depth: 24, cmap: 256)
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: saver window is 0x8000ac.
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: destroyed old saver window 0x8000aa.
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: spawning julia -root in pid 17408.
Error: Can't open display: :0.0
xscreensaver: 12:45:46: 0: child pid 17408 (julia) exited abnormally (code 1).
XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0
  after 8150 requests (8136 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

No idea what this indicates (but I'm guessing it has nothing
to do with the julia screensaver specifically.)
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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 10/03/2011 09:18 AM, JD wrote:
 On 10/03/2011 08:04 AM, Stuart McGraw wrote:
[...]
 However, I am having one issue since I changed... I leave
 my machine on and running overnight (have a bittorrent
 client running) but the next morning I find I am logged
 out. [...]

 A possible culprit:
 Check all the bash rc files in your home dir and in /etc
 and look for the variable TMOUT
 If set, auto-logout will take place after the number of
 seconds that TMOUT is set to.

Thanks.  I was not aware of this setting.  Seems not to
be the problem this time (looks like xscreensaver is 
crashing as detailed in a different post) but good to 
know for the future.

Responding to a couple other responses here to reduce 
traffic...

On 10/03/2011 11:56 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: 
 If you haven't checked the XFCE forum at http://forum.xfce.org/ yet, you 
 might want to.

I knew about the mailing list but not the forum.  Thanks.

On 10/03/2011 11:57 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
 Since you already have possible solutions from Kevin and JD, I thought
 I might offer you a OT workaround. If you are using transmission, I
 would suggest you try transmission-daemon. If you prefer something on
 the terminal, you could try rtorrent inside a screen session.

Again, new info to me.  I will look into transmission-daemon 
regardless of how the xscreensaver problem works out.
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Re: KVM virtual machine transfer query

2011-10-04 Thread Phil Meyer
On 10/04/2011 02:20 PM, Sanjay Arora wrote:
 Hello all

 I have a question. Can a kvm virtual machine, a linux or windows 
 guest, generated of fedora, be transfered to a rhel machine and 
 started? or vice versa?

 Please note, I am not talking of live migration. Just transferring 
 files generated on one OS  running on the another? And what if 
 hardware of the machines is different?



Not the official voice, but my experience is yes.  The only issue MAY BE 
transferring an image from an intel based server to an AMD based server.

For instance, here we run production KVMs on blades with Xeons.  I have 
often found it easier to do maintenance on a VM by mounting/copying that 
VMs drive to my desktop and firing it up here, and remounting/copying 
the image on the KVM host afterwards.

Nary an issue.  My desktop is currently running Fedora 15 on a cheap 
intel quad core.

To insure best long term portability, I would recommend using virtio 
drivers for network and disks.  That way there should never be an issue 
moving to different hardware underneath.

One CAVEAT is sound drivers.  The emulator, qemu, must support the 
drivers you choose.  Be careful not to use a driver that may not move 
forward, or backwards for that matter.

I recently built a KVM on my desktop to copy to a RHEL6.0 server.  
Fedora 15 qemu defaults to a sound driver that did not exist in earlier 
versions of qemu.

Just be aware of audio drivers, use virtio drivers where possible, and 
you should be golden for years to come.

Good Luck!
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Re: NetworkManager user agent

2011-10-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Robert Locke writes:


On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 01:01 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 When selecting a previously unknown wireless network, I am not getting
 prompted for the password. NetworkManager just complains in
 /var/log/messages that Access point {name} has security, but secrets are
 required, then gives up.

 I figured out that I can launch nm-connection-editor, and find my way to an
 obscure dialog where I can enter the wireless password, but this seems
 wrong. As I recall, selecting an previously unknown network from nm-applet,
 should result in me being automatically prompted for the password,  
directly.


 Some googling found this:

 http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/ref- 
migrating.html#id565872


 So, which package contains the user agent that prompts for wireless  
password?



For me, downloading the packages from the following fixed the problem:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-3.git20110927.fc15

Not sure if it has hit updates-testing yet


My problem is not this crash.

I simply don't get prompted for an access point's password. I don't think  
that my nm-applet crashes, as this bug is reporting, if it crashed I'd  
expect my abrt to be squawking about it.


I just don't get the password prompt.




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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 02:10 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote:
 No idea what this indicates (but I'm guessing it has nothing
 to do with the julia screensaver specifically.)

It may indicate that the previous screensaver wasn't releasing the root 
window.
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Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue October 4 2011, Joe Zeff wrote:
 
 No, because there's no point to such a thing.  When you install F14 and
 run update for the first time, you get the most recent version of
 everything.  Doing it your way would update you step-by-step across
 hundreds of updates for some of the programs, installing version after
 version until you reached the present.  Why do it the hard way when the
 default is easier and faster?

Agreed... just back up your config files, either on-line or to some sort of 
removable media and then when you reinstall, copy the config files back over.
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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 10/04/2011 04:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 02:10 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote:
 No idea what this indicates (but I'm guessing it has nothing
 to do with the julia screensaver specifically.)
 
 It may indicate that the previous screensaver wasn't releasing the root 
 window.

When I run it with just two screensavers selected, the
one that crashes (julia) and the one that ran previous 
(cubenetic) it runs ok across several switches between 
them.
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Re: updating users and groups (was Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!)

2011-10-04 Thread Peter Gueckel
I recommend that you manually change the user and group IDs (UID  GID) prior 
to upgrading the system.

On the old system:

usermod -g 1000 username
usermod -u 1000 username

Then run:

chown -R username:username directory
chgrp -R username:username directory

for all of your directories.

Reboot and make sure everything is ok. I had to redo one or two of the 
commands, for some reason, after rebooting. Maybe I didn't chown/chgrp -R 
everything correctly.

This worked perfectly for me when I migrated from Fedora 15 to Fedora 16.

I hope this is what you needed.

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Re: NetworkManager user agent

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Locke
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 17:52 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Robert Locke writes:
 
  On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 01:01 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
   When selecting a previously unknown wireless network, I am not getting
   prompted for the password. NetworkManager just complains in
   /var/log/messages that Access point {name} has security, but secrets are
   required, then gives up.
  
   I figured out that I can launch nm-connection-editor, and find my way to 
   an
   obscure dialog where I can enter the wireless password, but this seems
   wrong. As I recall, selecting an previously unknown network from 
   nm-applet,
   should result in me being automatically prompted for the password,  
  directly.
  
   Some googling found this:
  
   http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/ref- 
  migrating.html#id565872
  
   So, which package contains the user agent that prompts for wireless  
  password?
  
 
  For me, downloading the packages from the following fixed the problem:
 
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-3.git20110927.fc15
 
  Not sure if it has hit updates-testing yet
 
 My problem is not this crash.
 
 I simply don't get prompted for an access point's password. I don't think  
 that my nm-applet crashes, as this bug is reporting, if it crashed I'd  
 expect my abrt to be squawking about it.
 
 I just don't get the password prompt.
 
 

Correct. If you look at the changelog, not the bug report, you'll see
that a packaging error removed a necessary file. Your other alternative
is to install one of the -devel packages from the currently released
NetworkManager packages, but that brings a fair amount of baggage of
other -devel packages

And, yes, I was experiencing the *same* non-prompting problem, not any
sort of crash. The non-prompting was preventing my VPN connectivity in
addition to being unable to connect to new, secured wireless APs.

But feel free to wait for this to get fixed in a new, released
NetworkManager at some future undetermined date

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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 04:56 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote:
 When I run it with just two screensavers selected, the
 one that crashes (julia) and the one that ran previous
 (cubenetic) it runs ok across several switches between
 them.

As I told a caller, many years ago, part of troubleshooting is going 
down one blind ally after another until one of them isn't.
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Re: unwanted logout in xfce

2011-10-04 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote:
 When I run it with just two screensavers selected, the
 one that crashes (julia) and the one that ran previous
 (cubenetic) it runs ok across several switches between
 them.

Maybe its the switching that is causing the crash, have you tried
having just one or maybe a blank screen?

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Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue October 4 2011, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 10:06 AM, Linda McLeod wrote:
  Is there a link to download ALL Fedora-14 updates all at once in one
  huge file..?
  All I've found is a link to download each update separately...
 
 No, because there's no point to such a thing.  When you install F14 and
 run update for the first time, you get the most recent version of
 everything.  Doing it your way would update you step-by-step across
 hundreds of updates for some of the programs, installing version after
 version until you reached the present.  Why do it the hard way when the
 default is easier and faster?

Maybe a kickstart ??? I don't know anything about making those, but they 
are supposed to be a way to make identical custom installations, so maybe 
that would fill the bill? That and backing up the config files???
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Re: Downgrade to KDE 4.6?

2011-10-04 Thread Manuel Escudero
2011/10/4 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com

 Manuel Escudero wrote:

  Some time ago, I upgraded my KDE to 4.7 but it is very buggy (I'm on
 F15)
  so I want to return to KDE 4.6 is it possible? How can it be done?
 
  Thanks!
 

 What sort of problems do you experience?

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Plasma Reboot's itself many times a day, and also
after 12 hours of continous work, the computer starts freezing...

In KDE 4.6 I didn't had these problems.

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Configuring new ethernet interfaces

2011-10-04 Thread Alex
Hi,

I have an existing fedora15 x86_64 server with two interfaces that
I've moved to a different motherboard and processor with dual onboard
Intel 1000mbs ethernet controllers on it (e1000e driver). After moving
the system to the new motherboard, for some reason the ethernet
interfaces changed from eth0 and eth1 to eth4 and eth5.

Why did this happen, and how do I change it back to eth0 and eth1?

It looks like udev  has something to do with this?

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Configuring new ethernet interfaces

2011-10-04 Thread Digimer
On 10/04/2011 09:51 PM, Alex wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an existing fedora15 x86_64 server with two interfaces that
 I've moved to a different motherboard and processor with dual onboard
 Intel 1000mbs ethernet controllers on it (e1000e driver). After moving
 the system to the new motherboard, for some reason the ethernet
 interfaces changed from eth0 and eth1 to eth4 and eth5.
 
 Why did this happen, and how do I change it back to eth0 and eth1?
 
 It looks like udev  has something to do with this?
 
 Thanks,
 Alex

The MAC addresses changed. Take a look at this:

https://alteeve.com/w/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B

(it's more or less the same in Fedora 15 and should apply)

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Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...

2011-10-04 Thread Peter Gordon
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 10:06 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote:
 Here's my little problem..  My PC is hit nearly every week or two by
 hateful bullies..  I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is
 after I've laboured for several hours to customize it to my liking..  I
 need all my peripheral programs and files to be in that install.. 
 Please link me to a site that tells how it's done..  Ten years I've been
 trying to make such an install disk, and just can't get through it..  It
 makes me feel so darn stupid and small that I can't do this simple
 little thing...  If ever I do get it one day, I'll probably be bouncing
 in my chair till it or my bum breaks...  Please tell how it's done.

Pardon if this reply seems a bit insensitive; but instead of simply
fixing it each time these bullies hit your PC, why not prevent them in
the first place?

Primarily, how do they attack your computer? Are the attacks from an
external source, or from within your own home/business network? Are you
keeping updated with security fixes and such?

If the attacks are internal, try restricting access to your computer:
iIf you have the automatic login enabled for convenience; I recommend
turning it off and forcing yourself (and likely, your attackers) to use
an explicit password. (Ensure that this is a strong and unpredictable
password. Use a lengthy combination of upper- and lower-case letters,
numbers, and symbols; and make it unrelated to your username. Don't
write it down anywhere if you can help it.) Some more paranoid measures
might be to encrypt your hard drive contents (using a different password
than your user login), and to restrict physical access to the machine
(for example, locking it in its own well-ventilated room, and keeping
the key on your person). 

If the attacks are coming from an external source, ensure that your
firewall is set to block all incoming connections. If you are connected
to the internet directly, try instead to connect through a known-good
router, as the required NAT will add an additional security barrier
between you and the Internet.

Second, I don't know whether you are running as the superuser (root)
or not; but if you are, you should stop immediately. As the
administrator account for a system, it has virtually limitless
read/write access to anything on that system, including being able to
add, modify, or remove any kernel modules, programs and user data.

Finally, if none of these are viable in your circumstances, some
utilities you can use include rsync and/or duplicity (or the GNOME
frontend to these, Deja Dup) to create a file-by-file copy of the drive,
and the 'dd' tool to create an image of the drive contents. (Though
realistically, you probably only need the /home directory and any
modified data files in /etc or /var; as the rest can be simply
redownloaded.)

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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 10:11 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 06:56 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
  has not been abused by someone from Turkey.
 
 Thank you, McGeek.  Give yourself a probie snack.

what is your point?

Craig


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Re: Configuring new ethernet interfaces

2011-10-04 Thread Alex
Hi,

 I have an existing fedora15 x86_64 server with two interfaces that
 I've moved to a different motherboard and processor with dual onboard
 Intel 1000mbs ethernet controllers on it (e1000e driver). After moving
 the system to the new motherboard, for some reason the ethernet
 interfaces changed from eth0 and eth1 to eth4 and eth5.

 Why did this happen, and how do I change it back to eth0 and eth1?

 It looks like udev  has something to do with this?

 Thanks,
 Alex

 The MAC addresses changed. Take a look at this:

 https://alteeve.com/w/Changing_the_ethX_to_Ethernet_Device_Mapping_in_EL6_and_Fedora_12%2B

That was it, thanks. I knew the MAC address changed (should have
mentioned that initially) and also knew it was related to udev, but
just couldn't remember the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
file was the one that needed to be changed.

Thanks again,
Alex
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Re: Apoligies Re: Dearest

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2011 07:29 PM, Craig White wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 10:11 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 06:56 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 in the headers. Another indiciation that the Google Mail web interface
 has not been abused by someone from Turkey.

 Thank you, McGeek.  Give yourself a probie snack.
 
 what is your point?


You didn't like the Law And Order reference so I decided to try NCIS 
instead.
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Re: updating users and groups (was Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 16 Beta!!)

2011-10-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 17:56 -0600, Peter Gueckel wrote:
 I recommend that you manually change the user and group IDs (UID  GID) prior 
 to upgrading the system.
 
 On the old system:
 
 usermod -g 1000 username
 usermod -u 1000 username
 
 Then run:
 
 chown -R username:username directory
 chgrp -R username:username directory
 
 for all of your directories.

Don't just do this blindly, especially on large systems with multiple
users. There are two potential problems:

1) You may already have files with user=1000 and/or group=1000. Nothing
in the current Fedora prevents this. Creating a new user.group of
1000.1000 means these files will now belong to user and/or group, which
is probably not what you want.

2) chown -R ... directory also assumes that everything in the tree
below directory should have the same ownership. This is not a safe
assumption in the general case.

IOW you need to a) check that no 1000.1000 files exist, and b) only
change ownership of files belonging to the (old) values of user and
group. In fact to be really paranoid this should be done twice, once for
user and once for group.

Shell scripts using find ... are left as an exercise for the reader.

poc

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