Re: Battery Status Errors
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Keith Clark keithcl...@waterloosubstop.com wrote: Where to find this percentage setting? From another post I see that you are using Gnome, I have never used Gnome 3 so I don't know. But I would assume you can open the power management dialog by (right?) clicking on the battery icon. That said, I just recalled there was a big discussion because Gnome 3 removed this customisation option. But I think there are ways to do it using gnome-tweak-tool. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Changing UID/GID. Was Upgrading to F16 Beta
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote: Thanx. A good point. I wish the upgrade process would actually prompt the user for performing such steps. I'm replying to this twice, and changing the subject here because I didn't want to (completely) hijack the thread. What I'd like to ask is, how important is it to change your UID/GID for F16 and what would happen if you just left everything the way it was? I doubt that I'm the only person wondering this, and I think we'd all be better off if we knew just what risks we'd be running if we decided not to bother. Maybe this will be of interest to you. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-October/thread.html#405472 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox
On 08.10.2011, Per Anton Rønning wrote: Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object Ring a bell? Unfortunately not. Does this one help? http://javarevisited.blogspot.com/2011/06/noclassdeffounderror-exception-in.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox
Deepak Bhole wrote: Is there a reason why you can't upgrade to a newer Fedora version? Fedora 9 has been long unsupported, and there has been tremendous progress on the IcedTea plug-in since then. Cheers, Deepak There is no particular reason, except the work involved. I have to rescue all my emails (I'm using Seamonkey as my mail client which must be reinstalled as well), and I have to locate where Firefox is hiding my bookmarks. I've been looking for those, but I have not been succesful so far. I spend as little time as possible on such system management tasks. Also I have to get hold of Fedora 13 (?) - could it be installed from a memory stick? Since I am running F9 I guess I cannot upgrade, I have to install from bottom up, so I have to back up everything I do not want to lose. You may call me lazy, which is not far from the truth. Silly enough, this has made me postpone the inevitable. Regards PA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: TFTP stopped working on F14
Aaron Gray wrote:
..
I guess, it is running as a xinetd controlled daemon, if so, is there
anything else
listening on the tftp port?
How do I ascertain this ?
- netstat utility should be display xinetd daemon listening at udp
port 69 :
# netstat -a -n -p --ip|grep 69
udp0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
1595/xinetd
- and You /etc/xinetd.d/tftp should be as (note disable = no):
service tftp
{
disable = no
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s /var/lib/tftpboot
per_source = 11
cps = 100 2
flags = IPv4
}
- and xinetd daemon must be running; on F14 you can use command:
service xinetd status
and on F15 command:
systemctl status xinetd.service
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Re: TFTP stopped working on F14
Go to the directory /etc/xinetd.d
There all the services controlled by xinted reside. If tftp is being
controlled by xinetd, then you will find a configuration file specific to
it. As Frantisek said, disable=NO should be there if it is xinetd
controlled. If not, then disable=YES
In other words, try to check netstat while you put xinetd or tftp on the
side of grep. In my experience, I have seen that due to another service
listening on the same port, the legit ftp service is not running.
Since we are not getting the logs, it is kinda hard to guess. From the
strace, it can't be guessed what is going on. But if the line you mentioned
is the only line in strace, then probably something is going very awry. That
line is the first line of output that always comes if you attach strace to a
running process. Was the right hand value of the line a zero or something
else?
Also, I am guessing this problem only appears during transfer of file. If
you do a service check on tftp, what appears? Can you toggle the status of
the service and try? Also, toggle the tftp status keeping xinetd on and off
and find whether that makes any difference?
- Soham
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.czwrote:
Aaron Gray wrote:
..
I guess, it is running as a xinetd controlled daemon, if so, is there
anything else
listening on the tftp port?
How do I ascertain this ?
- netstat utility should be display xinetd daemon listening at udp
port 69 :
# netstat -a -n -p --ip|grep 69
udp0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
1595/xinetd
- and You /etc/xinetd.d/tftp should be as (note disable = no):
service tftp
{
disable = no
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s /var/lib/tftpboot
per_source = 11
cps = 100 2
flags = IPv4
}
- and xinetd daemon must be running; on F14 you can use command:
service xinetd status
and on F15 command:
systemctl status xinetd.service
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Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps suggested on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum Wow, progress being made!. I remember suggesting here that the Linux community should embrace scripts, instead of posting howto recipes that the users then have to cut and paste, and got some string opinions thrown at me. ;) This example is just what I meant... more scripts, less howtos please. :) +1 FC Right. Newbs and non-techies need scripts. Of course no one is forcing the techies to use them :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Pavilion dv6-3225dx under F14 -- mouse problems
[cut-and-paste from archives] gary artim wrote: +++ have a clickpad I can play with at work and tried out the beta of SuSe and FC16. both have better support but the right click and center click for does not work -- tools i need. you can set tapping to 2 or 3 fingers to get the right and center options, but who would use this -- 12 year olds?! a simple left/right/center and move the mouse when you move your finger would be a delight. This all made it clear to me that choosing a laptop for linux should still be researched, maybe bring a pendrive with linux on it to test before buying. hope you feel better. --- Gary: Somehow I lost your Thursday Oct 6th reply, I'll blame it on a fogged head. In hindsight, I agree that I should have done the pendrive test. I need the right click and, to a lessor extent, the center as well. The first thing I did on the Win7 part of the dual-boot was kill the tapping. Looks my niece is going to get herself a new laptop and I'll try to do it right the next time. That being said, I am going to give F16 a try just in case Thanks for the get well wishes, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as row number character position in the bottom right of the display. In f14's release of vi this is no longer true. I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to restore that behavior. Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share the magic formula? TIA, Mike Wright -- I thought Vim is installed by default. Do you have it installed? From my f14 machine: rpm -qa | grep vim vim-enhanced-7.3.315-1.fc14.x86_64 vim-minimal-7.3.315-1.fc14.x86_64 vim-filesystem-7.3.315-1.fc14.x86_64 vim-common-7.3.315-1.fc14.x86_64 HTH -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Corrupted evolution databases
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 15:31 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:34 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:50 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I had a crash that caused some filesystem errors, and after restarting, evolution reports that it can't view some of my mail and RSS feed folders because database disk image is malformed. Is this something that can be recovered? If so, how? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu Usually if you run: evolution --force-shutdown Then go to: .local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox and : rm Inbox.ibex.index and restart evolution , things will straighten out. Correction. That is for F15 . In earlier versions of Fedora it was in local not local_mbox. Thanks for the suggestions, but: * This is F15, and I have local/ not local_mbox/. Maybe because I had it before F15? * I don't have the file Inbox.ibex.index. Maybe because my local inbox is tied to a POP3 account? * I do have several *.ibex.index files. They are all hidden (start with '.'). One of them is ..ibex.index. The rest correspond to folders or RSS feeds. * I tried deleting an RSS feed (which deleted the corresponding .ibex.index and .ibex.index.data files) and recreating it (which created new files), but I get the same error trying to read that feed. I suppose it wouldn't kill me to blow the whole evolution directory tree away and start from scratch, as all the accounts are also stored remotely), but if you have any other ideas to try first, I'd be glad to have them. I am not sure what you mean by your Inbox being tied to a POP3 account. Are you using an Exchange server? I also use POP3w to download my mail from a server. Under your local directory do you have a file called folders.db. If so oyu might tey processing iit with the following script: cd ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local for i in `find . -name folders.db` do echo Rebuilding Table $i sqlite3 $i vacuum; done -- === Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits them all. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
What spins are most minimal?
It had to happen; and the question isn't really an oxymoron, though maybe I should have asked what is smallest. I've been happily running Omega Linux 14 on my little old ASUS 701 for some time, and doing updates. Today I finally got a result saying Errno 28] No space left on device. sigh Do I have to go try Puppy Linux again? Or is there another spin of Fedora even leaner than Omega? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as row number character position in the bottom right of the display. In f14's release of vi this is no longer true. I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to restore that behavior. Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share the magic formula? You need the 'vim-enhanced' package installed, ':set ruler' will then work. Your PATH should then find '/usr/bin/vim' in preference to '/bin/vi'. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 19:32 +0100, John Horne wrote: On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as row number character position in the bottom right of the display. In f14's release of vi this is no longer true. I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to restore that behavior. Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share the magic formula? You need the 'vim-enhanced' package installed, ':set ruler' will then work. Your PATH should then find '/usr/bin/vim' in preference to '/bin/vi'. I should have clarified that by saying that vim-enhanced also installs /etc/profile.d/vim.sh which sets up the alias for 'vi=vim'. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On 10/08/2011 11:32 AM, John Horne wrote: On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wrightmike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as row number character position in the bottom right of the display. In f14's release of vi this is no longer true. I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to restore that behavior. Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share the magic formula? You need the 'vim-enhanced' package installed, ':set ruler' will then work. Your PATH should then find '/usr/bin/vim' in preference to '/bin/vi'. @Hiisi, John, Thanks, that was it. Apparently the base install only provides vim-minimal. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps suggested on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum Wow, progress being made!. I remember suggesting here that the Linux community should embrace scripts, instead of posting howto recipes that the users then have to cut and paste, and got some string opinions thrown at me. ;) This example is just what I meant... more scripts, less howtos please. :) +1 FC OK - here I report what happened when I tried to follow the instructions at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum to perform a live upgrade. 0. ran all the steps specified on the URL. 1. running yum to do distro-sync failed to resolve conflicts with several of the existing fc14 packages. 2. yum update failed for the same reason. Conclusion: F16 Beta not ready for live upgrades and/or I just have too many packages installed (more than 4000). So, I restored back from saved partition image and rebooted back to F14. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What spins are most minimal?
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote: It had to happen; and the question isn't really an oxymoron, though maybe I should have asked what is smallest. sigh Do I have to go try Puppy Linux again? Or is there another spin of Fedora even leaner than Omega? all the official desktop spins fit on a cd; otoh, have you tried a 'customized' install from the 'official' DVD, that is, ruthlessly deselecting all the packages you won't need? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. charles zeitler -- Love is the law, love under will. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What spins are most minimal?
On 10/09/2011 12:00 AM, Beartooth wrote: sigh Do I have to go try Puppy Linux again? Or is there another spin of Fedora even leaner than Omega? You can do a minimal install if you use the standard Fedora DVD image and install just what you want on top of that. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote: Seems to me that the upgrade process itself should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD to take care of such problems, including cleaning up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages. Such a script would be a great help to newbs and non-techies. I hope someone on the fedoraproject's release engineering team notices this post. You dont need any scripts. If you upgrade, the previous settings will be preserved and there is no need to change unless you want to. In any case, writing these scripts is not release engineering's job. If needed, it should be part of something like preupgrade. Everyone is welcome to volunteer and get it done. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/08/2011 01:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote: Seems to me that the upgrade process itself should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD to take care of such problems, including cleaning up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages. Such a script would be a great help to newbs and non-techies. I hope someone on the fedoraproject's release engineering team notices this post. You dont need any scripts. If you upgrade, the previous settings will be preserved and there is no need to change unless you want to. In any case, writing these scripts is not release engineering's job. If needed, it should be part of something like preupgrade. Everyone is welcome to volunteer and get it done. Rahul I was addressing a live upgrade. A live upgrade does indeed need to be a script so that newbs and non-techies will be able to perform without having to read a how-to procedure and make accidental mistakes, no matter who creates it and submits it for inclusion in the repos. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote: I was addressing a live upgrade. A live upgrade does indeed need to be a script so that newbs and non-techies will be able to perform without having to read a how-to procedure and make accidental mistakes, no matter who creates it and submits it for inclusion in the repos. No. it doesn't need to be a script. There is no technical reason it should be. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/08/2011 03:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote: I was addressing a live upgrade. A live upgrade does indeed need to be a script so that newbs and non-techies will be able to perform without having to read a how-to procedure and make accidental mistakes, no matter who creates it and submits it for inclusion in the repos. No. it doesn't need to be a script. There is no technical reason it should be. Rahul But there is every reason to make the live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible. Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs and non-techies, who would like to perform such a live upgrade. Clearly, Fedora needs more people who are willing to address this issue to give fedora a wider appeal and make it more user friendly. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote: But there is every reason to make the live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible. Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs and non-techies, who would like to perform such a live upgrade. Clearly, Fedora needs more people who are willing to address this issue to give fedora a wider appeal and make it more user friendly. You haven't given any single reason why it should be a script. What exactly does such a live upgrade do that preupgrade doesn't and why can't be it be a part of preupgrade? Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What spins are most minimal?
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote: I've been happily running Omega Linux 14 on my little old ASUS 701 for some time, and doing updates. Today I finally got a result saying Errno 28] No space left on device. Have you tried cleaning the yum cache? # yum clean cache -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote: But there is every reason to make the live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible. Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs and non-techies, who would like to perform such a live upgrade. Clearly, Fedora needs more people who are willing to address this issue to give fedora a wider appeal and make it more user friendly. You haven't given any single reason why it should be a script. What exactly does such a live upgrade do that preupgrade doesn't and why can't be it be a part of preupgrade? Rahul Well, for one, I have tried pre-upgrade and it simply did not yield the expected result - system was left with many unresolved conflicts. Also, a good live upgrade requires just one reboot and the machine is then running the new version. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 17:49 -0700, JD wrote: On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You haven't given any single reason why it should be a script. What exactly does such a live upgrade do that preupgrade doesn't and why can't be it be a part of preupgrade? Rahul Well, for one, I have tried pre-upgrade and it simply did not yield the expected result - system was left with many unresolved conflicts. Also, a good live upgrade requires just one reboot and the machine is then running the new version. of course you made a bug report so you could help fix whatever didn't work in pre-upgrade so it was fixed right? Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
