Re: [389-users] Replication issue

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/12/2011 02:16 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Good.
what about the different generation ID message? Is it possible that 
this could be caused by a re-initialize?

Yes.

But then, I thought a re-initialize would fix this error, if it occurs.

In this case, it should fix this problem.

-Reinhard


*From:* Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:11 PM
*To:* Reinhard Nappert
*Cc:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.; 
Marc Sauton

*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/12/2011 02:08 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Rich,
I was thinking about the Replica has a different generation ID than 
the local data. error, because I have seen this before. If possible, 
I want to avoid that I have to go though each box and re-initialize.
So, you suggest I take let's say D (or A) and re-initialize B with 
D's data. Then, I would have to re-initialize F from B, right?

Right.
Let's go a bit further: If I had an agreement from A to F (and vice 
versa), I would not even have to re-initialize F from B. Is this correct?
Assuming the AtoF agreement is not complaining about unable to find 
CSN and data reload, then yes.

-Reinhard


*From:* Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:00 PM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Cc:* Reinhard Nappert; Marc Sauton
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 02:41 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

How do I do this manually on server A?
The other question is, what kind of impact does it have when I 
re-iitialize server B? To be more precise, my replication 
environment is more complex than just server A and server B. In 
fact, I have a setup like the following:

srv C -- srv A -- srv B -- srv D -- srv C
 /\ /\
 |   |
\/  \/
  srv E  srv F
I don't want to end up to re-initialize all boxes in my environment.
Assuming C and D are up to date and don't have any problems, 
reinitializing B should affect only B and F.

Thanks,
-Reinhard


*From:* Marc Sauton [mailto:msau...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:36 PM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Cc:* Reinhard Nappert
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 01:22 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Hi,
I encountered the following logs in the errors:
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - changelog program - 
agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB (srvB:389): CSN 4e8d804a000c not found, we aren't 
as up to date, or we purged
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Data required to update replica has been purged. The replica must be 
reinitialized.
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Incremental update failed and requires administrator action
  
Does anyone have  an idea, what could have caused this and more importantly, how to fix this?
  
Thanks

-Reinhard


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On server A, read a changelog to manually run the changes on server B.
May be tune up nsds5ReplicaPurgeDelay if such errors somehow appears 
regularly.
Otherwise, like the errors log says, the change was purged/removed, 
and replica need a re-init.

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echo hello /dev/pts/2 is blocking

2011-10-12 Thread Alain Spineux
I have a FUSE program in debug mode displaying a lot of debug messages
on the terminal.
After hours the program freeze and the terminal looks blocked.
The terminal don't react to key press, nor CTRL-C nor CTRL-Z

Using gdb, I get 31 threads, the 25 looks strange.
It looks to be blocking on a write() system call while displaying a
debug message to the terminal
Then I tried
# echo hello  /dev/pts/2
and it's blocking too !
Other pts on the same host don't block

How can a pts block ? Probably a problem with ssh or sshd. Using
strace, I can see both waiting on a select()
and not reacting to a key press or to the echo hello  /dev/pts/2. The
ssh client is running on a fedora 11

What next ?

I'm running fedora 14 on x64, but get exactly the same on a f14 i386.
I'm running the same test on centos-6 x64 just now


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Re: cleaning java alternatives

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 October 2011 15:51, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote:
 * Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com [2011-10-03 17:32]:
 Hi,


 What I'd like to know is if there's any way to reliably clean up my
 alternatives system to only use the current version of openjdk (rather
 than chasing separate javac, javaw, libjavaplugin etc.)? I've tried
 googling a bit but haven't found anything useful.


 The java plug-in has always been controlled by a separate alternative
 than java/javac. AFAIK, libjavaplugin.so[.x86_64], java and javac are
 the only alternatives you need to manage. Those are the master
 alternatives that control the remaining ones.


Okay, thanks.

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Re: Ethernet Installation of F15 using Apache and PXE environment on another machine

2011-10-12 Thread Alain Spineux
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it possible to do an ethernet Installation of F15 using Apache and PXE
 environment on another machine rather than from the internet
 (download.fedora.redhat.com) ?

Yes, using a kickstart file.

Take a look at http://www.datadisk.co.uk/html_docs/redhat/rh_pxe.html



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Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/11/2011 11:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 10/11/2011 01:39 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
 Unless you are happy with everyone telling the these number of people
 where to put their beefy miracle --- fill in the cliche yourself (does
 it still sound cute in this context and an inside joke you wish to
 exhibit to the world?)
 
 Not to mention, that if this is indeed an inside joke it just goes 
 further to advance the opinion of some that Fedora is run by a small 
 group of insiders and everyone else (the user base) are outsiders.

These people are insiders only to the extend that they have been
involved for a long time and care enough to know to these sort of
trivia. Other than that the information is transparently available in
many public places.   This is a open source project after all.

http://darkmattermatters.com/2011/10/11/the-origins-of-the-beefy-miracle/

In addition to that, I don't prefer to talk about a user base since
there is no bright line diving contributors and users.  Anyone who
bothers enough to say report a bug should be considered a contributor.

Rahul
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midi plugins in firefox - fedora 15

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
Hi,

Does anyone have working Midi in Firefox on Fedora 15? So far I've tried:
Totem/Gstreamer plugins - should work, but doesn't, due to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680652
VLC plugin, VLC from RPMFusion is packaged without Fluidsynth support
so this is a no go (Ubuntu seems to provide a fluidsynth plugin for
VLC as a separate package).
Mozplugger - shows up (twice) in about:plugins and with the default
configuration displays some play controls for the midi page I'm
trying. However it doesn't work, I've tried both the default
configuration and writing my own midi definition to load timidity.
Timidity from the command line will play from URLs happily.

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 October 2011 10:57, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 Ian Malone wrote:
 On 8 October 2011 09:05, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
 On 08.10.2011, Per Anton Rønning wrote:

 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
 Ring a bell?
 Unfortunately not. Does this one help?


So it looks like there are three Java here:

 1. Making sure that the symlinked plugin really is symlinked and
 pointing to the libnpjp2 in the installed java directory
 (/usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so ?) and is not a copy or
 pointing to a copy.

 Hi Ian:
 the libnpjp2.so in this location is:
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  77510 2011-07-19 10:57 libnpjp2.so
 so it should be an executable, not a symlink pointing to other locations.

This means the Java you're using with that plugin is
/usr/java/jre1.6.0_27, which should be a fairly recent Sun Java.

 2. Checking 'which java' reports 'bin' in the same install directory
 (it would be /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/bin/java assuming the location from
 #1).
 which java or which -a java reports:
 /usr/bin/java
 but this is not what you specify here, it is higher up in the directory
 hierarchy. Maybe my installation has a different structure?


It may not be the final location (could be a symlink), but...

 3. Checking 'java -version' works.
 reports:
 $java -version
 java version 1.5.0
 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.0 20080428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8)


Indicates the Java in your path is GCJ (Gnu Java if you like).

 this. I still keep firefox-3.5.4, and I found a pervious plugin that I
 symlink from its plugins directory, which looks like this:
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    76 2011-10-09 12:21 libjavaplugin_oji.so -
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0.6/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15824 2009-10-16 18:02 libnullplugin.so
 [par@localhost plugins]$


This is, I think, an earlier and different install of Sun Java to the
one above. Which would explain why it may not have the new-style
mozilla plugin. Whatever you do don't remove this one as it's the one
you're relying on for banking.

 I also discovered something else:
 The java in /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/bin/ responded like this when I tried
 to start it:
 [par@localhost bin]$ ./java
 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object


Indicates the /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27 Java is broken. I think getting
the icedtea plugin working as Deepak suggests is probably your best
bet. This actually means you'll have 4 Java installed, but that
shouldn't be a problem. Next best solution is retry the installation
for /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27 and make sure you didn't miss anything out,
the plugin is failing because the Java in that location is broken.

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no [2011-10-11 15:50]:
 Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * John Pilkington j.p...@tesco.net [2011-10-09 10:23]:
 On 09/10/11 14:33, John Pilkington wrote:
 ...
 ...
 John P
 Anyway I don't see icedtea rpms from any of my usual repos in f14, but 
 Firefox  Tools  Add-ons  Plugins shows I have the f14 version;  maybe 
 Get-Addons will find it for f9 ???

 Sorry, icedtea-web is only available in F15 and up. I had my versions
 mixed up.

 For older ones, please do 'yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin'

 Cheers,
 Deepak
 Hi Deepak,
 Sorry it did not go well:
 [root@localhost java]# yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
 http://dl.atrpms.net/f9-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 Trying other mirror.
 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
 atrpms. Please verify its path and try again

 
 You need to disable the atrpms repo. You can check what the name is in
 /etc/yum.repos.d/* (one of those files will be for atrpms). You can then
 set enable=0 there, or run:
 
 yum --disablerepo=reponame install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 
 Cheers,
 Deepak

Yes, atrpms.repo is present in directory /etc/yum.repos.d. Still, whar 
happens is:

[par@localhost java]$ yum --disablerepo=/etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo 
install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit


Error getting repository data for /etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo, 
repository not found

--- it is there, but still yum does not find it.

Regards
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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Ian Malone wrote:
 On 10 October 2011 10:57, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 Ian Malone wrote:
 On 8 October 2011 09:05, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
 On 08.10.2011, Per Anton Rønning wrote:

 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
 Ring a bell?
 Unfortunately not. Does this one help?

 
 So it looks like there are three Java here:
 
 1. Making sure that the symlinked plugin really is symlinked and
 pointing to the libnpjp2 in the installed java directory
 (/usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so ?) and is not a copy or
 pointing to a copy.
 Hi Ian:
 the libnpjp2.so in this location is:
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  77510 2011-07-19 10:57 libnpjp2.so
 so it should be an executable, not a symlink pointing to other locations.
 
 This means the Java you're using with that plugin is
 /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27, which should be a fairly recent Sun Java.
 
 2. Checking 'which java' reports 'bin' in the same install directory
 (it would be /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/bin/java assuming the location from
 #1).
 which java or which -a java reports:
 /usr/bin/java
 but this is not what you specify here, it is higher up in the directory
 hierarchy. Maybe my installation has a different structure?

 
 It may not be the final location (could be a symlink), but...
 
 3. Checking 'java -version' works.
 reports:
 $java -version
 java version 1.5.0
 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.0 20080428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8)

 
 Indicates the Java in your path is GCJ (Gnu Java if you like).
 
 this. I still keep firefox-3.5.4, and I found a pervious plugin that I
 symlink from its plugins directory, which looks like this:
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root76 2011-10-09 12:21 libjavaplugin_oji.so -
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0.6/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15824 2009-10-16 18:02 libnullplugin.so
 [par@localhost plugins]$

 
 This is, I think, an earlier and different install of Sun Java to the
 one above. Which would explain why it may not have the new-style
 mozilla plugin. Whatever you do don't remove this one as it's the one
 you're relying on for banking.
 
 I also discovered something else:
 The java in /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27/bin/ responded like this when I tried
 to start it:
 [par@localhost bin]$ ./java
 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object

 
 Indicates the /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27 Java is broken. I think getting
 the icedtea plugin working as Deepak suggests is probably your best
 bet. This actually means you'll have 4 Java installed, but that
 shouldn't be a problem. Next best solution is retry the installation
 for /usr/java/jre1.6.0_27 and make sure you didn't miss anything out,
 the plugin is failing because the Java in that location is broken.
 
I think jre1.6.0_27 is the most recent java, this is what the sun 
website offers as the newest for download.
I am at present trying to retrieve IcedTea, but there are problems in 
downloading it. So far, no success.

Regards
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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread John Pilkington
On 12/10/11 10:25, Per Anton Rønning wrote:
 Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * Per Anton Rønningpa-r...@online.no  [2011-10-11 15:50]:
 Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * John Pilkingtonj.p...@tesco.net  [2011-10-09 10:23]:
 On 09/10/11 14:33, John Pilkington wrote:
 ...
 ...
 John P
 Anyway I don't see icedtea rpms from any of my usual repos in f14, but
 Firefox  Tools  Add-ons  Plugins shows I have the f14 version;  maybe
 Get-Addons will find it for f9 ???

 Sorry, icedtea-web is only available in F15 and up. I had my versions
 mixed up.

 For older ones, please do 'yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin'

 Cheers,
 Deepak
 Hi Deepak,
 Sorry it did not go well:
 [root@localhost java]# yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
 http://dl.atrpms.net/f9-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno
 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 Trying other mirror.
 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 atrpms. Please verify its path and try again


 You need to disable the atrpms repo. You can check what the name is in
 /etc/yum.repos.d/* (one of those files will be for atrpms). You can then
 set enable=0 there, or run:

 yum --disablerepo=reponame  install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

 Cheers,
 Deepak

 Yes, atrpms.repo is present in directory /etc/yum.repos.d. Still, whar
 happens is:

 [par@localhost java]$ yum --disablerepo=/etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo
 install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit


 Error getting repository data for /etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo,
 repository not found

 --- it is there, but still yum does not find it.

 Regards
 PA

As I said earlier, it exists, but not for releases earlier than f12, so 
yum won't see it.  And it wouldn't have had the packages you're looking 
for anyway.

Cheers,

John P

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 October 2011 10:25, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no [2011-10-11 15:50]:
 Deepak Bhole wrote:
 * John Pilkington j.p...@tesco.net [2011-10-09 10:23]:
 On 09/10/11 14:33, John Pilkington wrote:
 ...
 ...
 John P
 Anyway I don't see icedtea rpms from any of my usual repos in f14, but
 Firefox  Tools  Add-ons  Plugins shows I have the f14 version;  maybe
 Get-Addons will find it for f9 ???

 Sorry, icedtea-web is only available in F15 and up. I had my versions
 mixed up.

 For older ones, please do 'yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin'

 Cheers,
 Deepak
 Hi Deepak,
 Sorry it did not go well:
 [root@localhost java]# yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
 http://dl.atrpms.net/f9-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno
 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 Trying other mirror.
 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 atrpms. Please verify its path and try again


 You need to disable the atrpms repo. You can check what the name is in
 /etc/yum.repos.d/* (one of those files will be for atrpms). You can then
 set enable=0 there, or run:

 yum --disablerepo=reponame install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin


 Yes, atrpms.repo is present in directory /etc/yum.repos.d. Still, whar
 happens is:

 [par@localhost java]$ yum --disablerepo=/etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo
 install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit


Just the repository name, in this case I think:
yum --disablerepo=atrpms install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

Add extra --dsiablerepo=NAME for any other third party repositories it
can't find (I guess they've ddropped support for Fedora 9).

If you don't know the name you can get it either from the name yum
reports when trying to get the metadata (e.g. the [...]  for
repository: atrpms bit above) or from the files in /etc/yum.repos.d/
(where repository names are in square brackets within the files).

Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/

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Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-12 Thread Dick Roark
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Thomas Dineen tdin...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Beefy Miracle

 Sounds like a new brand of dog food.

 Thomas Dineen

  *+1*





 On 10/10/2011 6:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
  On 10/11/2011 09:05 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith
  jsm...@fedoraproject.org   wrote:
  The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the
  results are in!  Thank you to the Fedora community members who made
  name suggestions and participated in the voting.
 
  The Fedora 16 release name is: Beefy Miracle
  Sorry for the confusion... that's the Fedora 17 name.
 
  OK  But let's hope F17 isn't high in cholesterol.  :-)
 

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Fedora15 focus issues.

2011-10-12 Thread Hardik Soni-Ennovate
Hi All, 
I am using Fedora15 with the Gnome theme, 
but the problem I am facing is that, 

When ever i run my Installer which is built using the InstallJammer so at the 
time of installation, 
the first window of installer hides behind the Current Window, even if my 
installation window hides behind the current window if i do 

1) Alt + space its working on my installation window not on current window. 
2) Alt + F4 it closes my installation window which was hides behind the current 
window. 
3) If i switch to another work station and come back to the previous work 
station then it will display the installation window on the top. 

So, from that above observation i think that my window is on top but the Gnome 
is not displaying it on the Top. 

Is it a bug in Gnome for Fedora 15 or what ?? 
Any one has any suggestion or idea. 


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Re: Fedora15 focus issues.

2011-10-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/12/2011 07:35 AM, Hardik Soni-Ennovate wrote:
 Hi All,
 I am using Fedora15 with the Gnome theme,
 but the problem I am facing is that,
 
 When ever i run my Installer which is built using the InstallJammer so
 at the time of installation,
 the first window of installer hides behind the Current Window, even if
 my installation window hides behind the current window if i do
 
 1) Alt + space its working on my installation window not on current window.
 2) Alt + F4 it closes my installation window which was hides behind the
 current window.
 3) If i switch to another work station and come back to the previous
 work station then it will display the installation window on the top.
 
 So, from that above observation i think that my window is on top but the
 Gnome is not displaying it on the Top.
 
 Is it a bug in Gnome for Fedora 15 or what ??
 Any one has any suggestion or idea.
 
 
 Hardik
 
 

 Try another DE .. I'd suggest either KDE or XFCE ... see if that
resolves your problem.


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Re: installation on a dell netbook

2011-10-12 Thread Martín Marqués
2011/10/11 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net:
 On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:03 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
 2011/10/6 Shiv Manas s...@linux.com:
  1. Create a Live USB Stick
  https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

 This didn't work (not with the netbook, and not with my notebook).

 1) Downloaded F15 iso image
 2) installed liveusb-creator
 3) Boot from the USB

 Result: Missing Operating System


 As I keep saying, use unetbootin-linux-555  from
 unetbootin.sourceforge.net
 and you will get a bootable usb of F15 , which can be used to install
 F15.

Seems to work. At least it boots the image. Haven't tried to installed it yet.

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Notebook blocks

2011-10-12 Thread Martín Marqués
I'm have, since I bought it, problems with by Dell Inspiron.
Basically, well I close the top (notebook is on) and I open it, the
notebook gets blocked, and I can't get it to work. I have to leave it
closed until it hibernates, and then when I open it it comes back to
life asking me for my password. AFAICR, it only happens when a user is
logged in, not with the KDM login screen.

Any ideas on why this is happening?

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Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-12 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 11/10/11 10:23, Christoph Wickert wrote:
 Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2011, 08:40 +0200 schrieb Erik P. Olsen:
 On 11/10/11 03:02, Jared K. Smith wrote:

 The Fedora 16 release name is: Beefy Miracle

 Childish.

 Why?

 Beefy Miracle has a long history in Fedora, in fact it dates back to the
 days of Red Hat Linux and as a tribute to one of the greatest Red Hat
 releases ever it's just fair to have Fedora named Beefy Miracle 10
 years later.

What purpose do these codenames serve?

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RE: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-12 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)

 What purpose do these codenames serve?

First, the code name gets recorded in /etc/redhat-release..

Second, and more importantly, if gives us all something to discuss on the 
mailing list! :)
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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Ian Malone wrote:
 
 Just the repository name, in this case I think:
 yum --disablerepo=atrpms install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

Thnx Ian,
You're right. But sorry, it does not work after all.

[root@localhost java]# yum --disablerepo=atrpms install 
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
adobe 
   |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz 
   |  12 kB 00:00
adobe  18/18
planetcore 
   | 1.9 kB 00:00
fedora 
   | 2.4 kB 00:00
kde-redhat-all 
   | 1.9 kB 00:00
primary.sqlite.bz2 
   |  81 kB 00:00
Could not retrieve mirrorlist 
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/mirrors 
error was
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
http://mirror.unl.edu/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/repodata/repomd.xml:
 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://kde-redhat.unl.edu/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/repodata/repomd.xml:
 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
ftp://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/9/i386/stable/repodata/repomd.xml:
 
[Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory.
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again

 Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
 able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
 http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/

Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am 
searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am 
running my homespun directory search engine.
Thank you!

Regards
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Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless F15

2011-10-12 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 22:06 +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote:
 Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report?

I haven't, and it looks like a good thing that I didn't, because it
would appear that I really have no idea what was going on. I thought it
was loading a driver for a different wireless chip, but you're saying
that the acer_wmi module is supposed to load in addition to the wireless
chip driver module, but it has a bug?

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 On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote: 
 On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 12:26 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
  I cannot get wireless to work on my new Sony VAIO VPCEG
 laptop. It has
  the ar9285 chip in it.
 
 
 After screwing around with this for a day, I finally figured
 out what is
 going on. For some reason, it was also loading the acer_wmi
 module, a
 driver for a different type of wireless chip, and this was
 screwing
 things up. As soon as I did modprobe -r acer_wmi, then
 everything
 worked. I just needed to blacklist this module
 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, and now the Atheros chip is
 working
 even after a reboot.
 
 
 --Greg
 

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 October 2011 14:09, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:

 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again


Looks like there might be a few other respositories you need to
disable if you find yourself wanting to install anything else via yum.

 Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
 able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
 http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/

 Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am
 searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am
 running my homespun directory search engine.

This should list the files installed by the package:
rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

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Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless F15

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 22:06 +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote:
 Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report?

 I haven't, and it looks like a good thing that I didn't, because it
 would appear that I really have no idea what was going on. I thought it
 was loading a driver for a different wireless chip, but you're saying
 that the acer_wmi module is supposed to load in addition to the wireless
 chip driver module, but it has a bug?

Yes, as best as I can tell[1] it should load in addition to the
wireless driver (on an Acer laptop). Apparently these are really ACPI
drivers that are used to do the software enable/disable of wireless
cards and probably other hardware devices.

Richard

[1] http://code.google.com/p/aceracpi/
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Re: Things I cant understand

2011-10-12 Thread Kevin Martin
snip
 Are you getting the version of snort from the yum repo or from snort.org 
 directly?  If it's from snort.org (which, based on the rpm
 name, I'm guessing it is) there is a fairly concise howto as to how to 
 install the latest version of snort for F14 ( 
 http://www.snort.org/assets/154/Snort_2.9.0.1_FC14_Base.pdf ).  And, FWIW, 
 the latest x64 version of libpcap for F14 appears to be
 1.1.1 so it appears that if you do a yum install libpcap you should have a 
 version of libpcap that is new enough to handle the
 version of snort that is in the F14 repos (and the version that is on 
 snort.org, which, from reading the install guide, you have to
 compile and install, not install from rpm).
 Actually:

   [root@prophead ~]# rpm -qa | grep libpcap | grep 86_64
   libpcap-1.1.1-3.fc14.x86_64
   libpcap-devel-1.1.1-3.fc14.x86_64

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Re: Linpsk audio -

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 06/10/11 08:20, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Does anyone have experience getting Linpsk to work in F-15. I
can see audio in the Pulse Audio Volume Control GUI but it
doesn't seem to reach the Linpsk input. I am not aware of any
sound problems with this computer so it has to be something I
have misconfigured but I'm not sure where to look next.

Suggestions from anyone who has done this would be appreciated.

Bob




A work-around for the non-functioning Linpsk was to install
psk31lx from Ted at http://wa0eir.home.mchsi.com/

Psk31lx installed easily and worked.

Bob


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Re: echo hello /dev/pts/2 is blocking

2011-10-12 Thread JB
Alain Spineux aspineux at gmail.com writes:

 
 I have a FUSE program in debug mode displaying a lot of debug messages
 on the terminal.
 After hours the program freeze and the terminal looks blocked.
 The terminal don't react to key press, nor CTRL-C nor CTRL-Z
 
 Using gdb, I get 31 threads, the 25 looks strange.
 It looks to be blocking on a write() system call while displaying a
 debug message to the terminal
 Then I tried
 # echo hello  /dev/pts/2
 and it's blocking too !
 Other pts on the same host don't block
 
 How can a pts block ? Probably a problem with ssh or sshd. Using
 strace, I can see both waiting on a select()
 and not reacting to a key press or to the echo hello  /dev/pts/2. The
 ssh client is running on a fedora 11
 
 What next ?
 
 I'm running fedora 14 on x64, but get exactly the same on a f14 i386.
 I'm running the same test on centos-6 x64 just now
 
 Regards

I would say take a look at pertinent info (from another terminal on that
machine):
$ w
$ ps aux |grep -i pts

Threads:
$ ps -eLf |grep -i pts
$ ps axms |grep -i pts
$ man ps # signals: PENDING or BLOCKED or IGNORED or CAUGHT
$ man select

JB


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Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-12 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 10/11/2011 03:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Dokuro writes:

 I like this behavior, is like having a dual head!.
 And I saw it first on Linux Mint 11, with Gnome 2...
 so the windows rant is just plain stupid

 It seems you do not move the windows with alt...

 If you want this new UI behavior, that's fine, and I could even deal
 with it being the default desktop configuration, requiring me to turn
 it off somewhere.

 But just forcibly enabling it, by default, and giving me no visible
 configuration setting to turn it off, anywhere, and forcing me to root
 around with gconf-editor – this is just rude.

 Or, perhaps all the missing UI configuration settings: this one, focus
 autoraise, and others – perhaps there just wasn't enough time to add
 the UI for these settings, and Gnome 3 replaced Gnome 2 before it was
 fully cooked.

 Whatever the case may be, I just hope that the “we know best, so
 here's the UI and you're going to like it, because we do, and you
 won't have any alternatives” meme will not survive.

+1 w/Sam
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Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-12 Thread Alessandro Brezzi
2011/10/12 Joe Wulf joe_w...@yahoo.com

 I second what Sam has said.

 GNOME3 has generated some backlash with its way of working---and not been
 clearly/fully documented such that the preponderance of users can 'get it'.

 R,
 -Joe

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 *Subject:* Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

 If you want this new UI behavior, that's fine, and I could even deal with
 it being the default desktop configuration, requiring me to turn it off
 somewhere.

 But just forcibly enabling it, by default, and giving me no visible
 configuration setting to turn it off, anywhere, and forcing me to root
 around with gconf-editor – this is just rude.

 Or, perhaps all the missing UI configuration settings: this one, focus
 autoraise, and others – perhaps there just wasn't enough time to add the UI
 for these settings, and Gnome 3 replaced Gnome 2 before it was fully cooked.

 Whatever the case may be, I just hope that the “we know best, so here's the
 UI and you're going to like it, because we do, and you won't have any
 alternatives” meme will not survive.



Hi,
in my opinion, Larry is right : the question must be addressed to the Gnome
dev team. But, as long time Fedora / RedHat user, I must agree with Sam :
Fedora *MUST* be filled by default with all the gnome-shell* / gconf* stuff.
To much time spent looking around to customize my desktop


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Re: Linpsk audio -

2011-10-12 Thread Brian Mury
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 10:29 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
 A work-around for the non-functioning Linpsk was to install
 psk31lx from Ted at http://wa0eir.home.mchsi.com/
 
 Psk31lx installed easily and worked.

Somehow I missed your original message or I would have replied - sorry!

I'm a fan of fldigi: http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Brian


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Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/12/2011 11:35 AM, Alessandro Brezzi wrote:

 
 Hi,
 in my opinion, Larry is right : the question must be addressed to the
 Gnome dev team. But, as long time Fedora / RedHat user, I must agree
 with Sam : Fedora *MUST* be filled by default with all the gnome-shell*
 / gconf* stuff.
 To much time spent looking around to customize my desktop
  
 


  As many have said and done - if it hurts don't use G-3.

  Use KDE or XFCE instead, which offer much configurability upon you ...
:-)

  G-3 (along with KDE, XFCE, LXDE etc) is an alternative to Gnome-2  not
an update. Choose the alternative which best suits your needs. G-2 is no
longer available.

 gene
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Re: flash-plugin not working within SELinux sandbox (f14)

2011-10-12 Thread Christoph A.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

On 10/11/2011 11:11 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so

thank you,
that fixed it!
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iEYEAREKAAYFAk6VvjQACgkQrq+riTAIEg2ERQCfRBY9Q4DM2BauE2M/37pxXRwW
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Re: [OT] SAS disks

2011-10-12 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/11/2011 06:44 PM, Leonardo wrote:
 2011/10/11 Scott Rouse gri...@grim76.net:
 (...)

 Configure them however you need to.  The configuration you use depends on
 your needs.
 (...)
 
 Thank you, i'll choose the SAS disks, you and google are saying that's
 a good option, ;-)

Speaking as someone who has run a CDN in the past and one that currently
runs an origin services company, 15K SAS drives work just peachy in the
server environment.  SATA also works but is slower, of course.  Fastest
would be fiberchannel or SCSI drives, but their cost is usually
prohibitive.

At this time, I don't recommend 2.5 drives or ones 2TB capacity in a
data center environment.  The 2.5 drives haven't proven their heat
dissipation characteristics to my satisfaction yet, and the 3TB drives
are just a bit dense and again, haven't proven their reliability yet.

Just my opinions, but I do have about 35 years in the business and
about 25 years running various data centers.
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Re: [OT] SAS disks

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com said:
 Speaking as someone who has run a CDN in the past and one that currently
 runs an origin services company, 15K SAS drives work just peachy in the
 server environment.  SATA also works but is slower, of course.  Fastest
 would be fiberchannel or SCSI drives, but their cost is usually
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SCSI is dead; SAS is the next-generation SCSI interface (SAS stands for
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removed networking accidentally

2011-10-12 Thread Chris DuBois
I accidentally removed the networking portion from my F14. How do I reload
it please? Any help is gratefully appreciated.

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Re: removed networking accidentally

2011-10-12 Thread Soham Chakraborty
Portion in the sense? Removed the network configuration files or the
relevant rpms? If it is the second, you can grab them from elsewhere or from
the DVD, I guess.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chris DuBois cdubo...@frontier.comwrote:

 I accidentally removed the networking portion from my F14. How do I reload
 it please? Any help is gratefully appreciated.

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Ian Malone wrote:
 On 12 October 2011 14:09, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 
 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again

 
 Looks like there might be a few other respositories you need to
 disable if you find yourself wanting to install anything else via yum.
 
 Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
 able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
 http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/
 Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am
 searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am
 running my homespun directory search engine.
 
 This should list the files installed by the package:
 rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 
Ouch!
[root@localhost lib]# rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin is not installed

Sorry, The install went without reporting any messages, but it seems
that I have missed somethig. I'll try again.
Apart from that, my directory search engine reponds with a whole army of 
hits to the key=openjdk.


Regards
PA

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Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-12 Thread Thomas Dineen

Gentle People:

Last night I received a message via Twitter 
http://twitter.com/#%21/beefymiracle from a hot dog.


See the difficulty we are in!!! This is what happens when you
take political advice from a Hot Dog!

Hey, I know that most will consider this to be a dumb idea, but,,,
what about just naming it Fedora Release 17, No, No No,
that will never work as it is way to adult!

Thomas Dineen




On 10/12/2011 1:02 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 10/11/2011 11:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/11/2011 01:39 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

Unless you are happy with everyone telling the these number of people
where to put their beefy miracle --- fill in the cliche yourself (does
it still sound cute in this context and an inside joke you wish to
exhibit to the world?)

Not to mention, that if this is indeed an inside joke it just goes
further to advance the opinion of some that Fedora is run by a small
group of insiders and everyone else (the user base) are outsiders.

These people are insiders only to the extend that they have been
involved for a long time and care enough to know to these sort of
trivia. Other than that the information is transparently available in
many public places.   This is a open source project after all.

http://darkmattermatters.com/2011/10/11/the-origins-of-the-beefy-miracle/

In addition to that, I don't prefer to talk about a user base since
there is no bright line diving contributors and users.  Anyone who
bothers enough to say report a bug should be considered a contributor.

Rahul


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Fedora 14 / Skype / Headset

2011-10-12 Thread Frank Elsner

Hallo folks,

skype works perfect with my Logitech webcam and the integrated microphone
under Fedora 14.

But when I plug in a Logitech headset (earphone plug and microphone plug)
only the earphones work. The microphone will (incontrast to webcam/microphone)
not be detected and therefore not show up as an input device under sound 
preferences.

Any pointer towards a solution is welcome.


--Frank Elsner 

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Ian Malone wrote:
 On 12 October 2011 14:09, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 
 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again

 
 Looks like there might be a few other respositories you need to
 disable if you find yourself wanting to install anything else via yum.
 
 Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
 able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
 http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/
 Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am
 searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am
 running my homespun directory search engine.
 
 This should list the files installed by the package:
 rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
 
Now, this is weird:
Retryin rpm install gives
$rpm -i java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386.rpm
package java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386 is already installed

Have I picked the wrong package maybe?

Regards
PA

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FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Ekstrand
I have an Asus laptop with their Turbo33 technology. What this gives 
me is a widget on my Windows desktop that has a Turbo33 on-off switch to 
turn on faster speed.

Long story short, this tool/technology seems to just overclock the FSB 
to bring the CPU from 1.3GHz to 1.7GHz.

Is there any tool that I can use to do this from inside Fedora?  There 
does not seem to be a BIOS knob for it, just the Windows control interface.

Thanks,
- Michael

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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.net wrote:
 Long story short, this tool/technology seems to just overclock the FSB
 to bring the CPU from 1.3GHz to 1.7GHz.

 Is there any tool that I can use to do this from inside Fedora?  There
 does not seem to be a BIOS knob for it, just the Windows control interface.


Is this a fancy term for CPU scaling? If so, the kernel does that for
you as needed.

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Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com writes:
 All existing users of the Fedora Account System (FAS) at 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts are required to change their 
 password and upload a NEW ssh public key before 2011-11-30. 
 Failure to do so may result in your account being marked inactive. 
 Passwords changed and NEW ssh public keys uploaded after 2011-10-10 
 will meet this requirement. 

The system doesn't allow one to simply delete the recorded RSA key.  It
seems overkill to inactivate the account when simply deleting all old
RSA public keys is sufficient.

I do change my RSA keys once per year and never allow the private key
off the system.  It is a real pain to update all the affected systems
whenever I change keys.  I'm not going to be doing it again for 8 more
months.

-wolfgang
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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 10/12/2011 01:48 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Michael Ekstrandmich...@elehack.net  wrote:
 Long story short, this tool/technology seems to just overclock the FSB
 to bring the CPU from 1.3GHz to 1.7GHz.

 Is there any tool that I can use to do this from inside Fedora?  There
 does not seem to be a BIOS knob for it, just the Windows control interface.


 Is this a fancy term for CPU scaling? If so, the kernel does that for
 you as needed.

No - this feature cranks up the maximum frequency of the processor.

- Michael


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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/12/2011 11:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
 Is this a fancy term for CPU scaling? If so, the kernel does that for
 you as needed

I got the impression that the OP wanted to know if there's a way to 
control this from inside Fedora.  I have no need for it myself, but just 
out of curiosity, is there a way to turn it on and off, or is it 
strictly controlled by the kernel?
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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
 On 10/12/2011 11:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
 Is this a fancy term for CPU scaling? If so, the kernel does that for
 you as needed

 I got the impression that the OP wanted to know if there's a way to
 control this from inside Fedora.  I have no need for it myself, but just
 out of curiosity, is there a way to turn it on and off, or is it
 strictly controlled by the kernel?

I think the BIOS has options to turn CPU scaling off. However if its
on, AFAIK the kernel controls it.

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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Deepak Bhole
* Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no [2011-10-12 14:38]:
 Ian Malone wrote:
  On 12 October 2011 14:09, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
  
  Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
  kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again
 
  
  Looks like there might be a few other respositories you need to
  disable if you find yourself wanting to install anything else via yum.
  
  Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
  able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
  java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
  http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/
  Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am
  searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am
  running my homespun directory search engine.
  
  This should list the files installed by the package:
  rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
  
 Now, this is weird:
 Retryin rpm install gives
 $rpm -i java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386.rpm
 package java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386 is already installed
 

Thats the main package. You need to install the -plugin subpackage.

Cheers,
Deepak
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Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 October 2011 19:53, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:
 Ian Malone wrote:
 On 12 October 2011 14:09, Per Anton Rønning pa-r...@online.no wrote:

 Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
 kde-redhat. Please verify its path and try again


 Looks like there might be a few other respositories you need to
 disable if you find yourself wanting to install anything else via yum.

 Finally if you still can't get yum working (but you really should be
 able to) then you can download the java-1.6.0-openjdk and
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin RPMS from
 http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386.newkey/os/Packages/
 Okey, I found it and it was installed without error messages. Now I am
 searching for the plugin, I am not sure where it is installed, so I am
 running my homespun directory search engine.

 This should list the files installed by the package:
 rpm -ql java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

 Now, this is weird:
 Retryin rpm install gives
 $rpm -i java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386.rpm
 package java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.10.b09.fc9.i386 is already installed


There are two packages:  java-1.6.0-openjdk and
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin, you need to install both, it sounds like
you've only installed java-1.6.0-openjdk. (If you had Yum working it
would get java-1.6.0-openjdk when you ask it for
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin).

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Re: [389-users] 389 Console setup SSL with MMR

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/11/2011 05:43 AM, Pieter Baele wrote:
 Hi,

 I used 389 Directory Server in the past but it has been a long time...

 Problem 1:
 ---
 When I start 389-console on top of an ssh session with X, I can't use
 the input boxes...
 (solved by a local installation of 389-ds but...)

 Problem 2:
 ---
 I see for an easy setup of multimaster replication with SSL, I can
 still use setupssl2.sh and mmr.pl
 scripts :-)

 But what's the right order?

 After setup-ds-admin.pl I first ran setupssl2.sh and then I tried to setup 
 mmr.
 I've this fault when I choose --with-ssl (replication without ssl works)

 [11/Oct/2011:13:15:51 +0200] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send
 bind request for id [cn=repman,cn=config] mech [SIMPLE]: error -1
 (Can't contact LDAP server) -8054 (You are attempting to import a cert
 with the same issuer/serial as an existing cert, but that is not the
 same cert.) 107 (Transport endpoint is not connected)

 (with the normal replication I also see netscapeRoot, not userRoot)
The -m argument when creating a new cert is significant - it must be 
globally unique.  The -m argument is where you specify the serial number.
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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Joe Zeff wrote:
 I got the impression that the OP wanted to know if there's a way to
 control this from inside Fedora.  I have no need for it myself, but just
 out of curiosity, is there a way to turn it on and off, or is it
 strictly controlled by the kernel?

CPU frequency scaling is a kernel module, but can be controlled through 
user-space with the cpuspeed daemon or by echo'ing the /sys file system 
configuration parameters.
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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Ekstrand wrote:
 Is there any tool that I can use to do this from inside Fedora?  There
 does not seem to be a BIOS knob for it, just the Windows control interface.

AFAIK ASUS does not provide tools, nor specs, to be able to configure 
this from Linux.
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Re: [389-users] Certificate based authentication

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/11/2011 09:53 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis wrote:

Hi

I am looking at doing certifcate based authentication using 389. The 
company where I am working currently issues a certificate for every 
new starter and these certs are well managed with regards to sensible 
expiry dates etc. This cert is your key to the whole environment and a 
lot of the applications like jira/confluence authenticate you based on 
your certificate.


I have read through the documentation:
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/8.2/html/Administration_Guide/Managing_SSL.html

and it seems to suggest that it is nessesary to convert the user 
certificate and upload it into 389 db.


It is not necessary, but it is on by default.  This is the certmap.conf 
verifyCert setting.  It is on by default.  If you set it to off it 
will not attempt to compare the client cert with the one in the 389 db.


This seems a bit of a duplication. Is there anyway to talk to the 
certificate provider to ascertain the validity or not of a certificate 
and obtain any other required information, rather than having a copy 
of the certificate in the database. The documentation also does not 
say whether this is the public or private part of the certificate that 
needs to be uploaded. I am assuming it is the public part.


Yes, the public part.  389 uses NSS for crypto which supports CRL and 
OCSP for checking certificate revocation status.  You would typically 
want to periodically install a new CRL into 389 using crlutil in order 
to check revocation status of incoming client certs.




The second part of the question is how would this work with regards to 
ssh authentication. Somehow via pam and ssh the certificate must be 
passed on to 389 when the authentication happens. I am not sure this 
is currently possible with pam but would be interested in any 
suggestions to achieve something like this.


pam_pkcs11?  Note that ssh public keys are not the same as the public 
key part of an x509 certificate - you cannot mix and match them afaik.  
What exactly are you trying to do?  Do ssh/pam authentication and have 
ssh retrieve the public key from LDAP?




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Re: [389-users] Replication issue

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/11/2011 02:41 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

How do I do this manually on server A?
The other question is, what kind of impact does it have when I 
re-iitialize server B? To be more precise, my replication environment 
is more complex than just server A and server B. In fact, I have a 
setup like the following:

srv C -- srv A -- srv B -- srv D -- srv C
 /\ /\
 |   |
\/  \/
  srv E  srv F
I don't want to end up to re-initialize all boxes in my environment.
Assuming C and D are up to date and don't have any problems, 
reinitializing B should affect only B and F.

Thanks,
-Reinhard


*From:* Marc Sauton [mailto:msau...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:36 PM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Cc:* Reinhard Nappert
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 01:22 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Hi,
I encountered the following logs in the errors:
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - changelog program - 
agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB (srvB:389): CSN 4e8d804a000c not found, we aren't 
as up to date, or we purged
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Data required to update replica has been purged. The replica must be 
reinitialized.
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Incremental update failed and requires administrator action
  
Does anyone have  an idea, what could have caused this and more importantly, how to fix this?
  
Thanks

-Reinhard


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On server A, read a changelog to manually run the changes on server B.
May be tune up nsds5ReplicaPurgeDelay if such errors somehow appears 
regularly.
Otherwise, like the errors log says, the change was purged/removed, 
and replica need a re-init.

M.


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Re: [389-users] 389 pauses every 5 minutes under load

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/11/2011 08:42 AM, Justin Gronfur wrote:
 On 10/10/2011 02:46 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
 I'm just trying to figure out what happens every 5 minutes inside the 
 directory server.  There is a thread that attempts to clean up 
 tombstone entries and other state information.  But if you are not 
 using replication then that is not run.  There are database threads 
 such as checkpointing, log flushing, etc. but they run every 250 
 milliseconds.  That's what this seems like - do you notice high I/O 
 usage during the time when the server is pegged at 100% cpu?

 No high disk I/O, in fact vmstat is reporting substantially less disk 
 IO at that time than normal.  The cpu is 94% user and 6% system during 
 those time.  I'm not sure if attachments are allowed on this list, but 
 I used ptrace to grab the list of current operations (not full traces) 
 and filtered out all of the common select(), poll(), wait() calls.  
 What is left is attached.

 Let me know if you want me to try anything else or gather anymore data.
This is helpful.  Any chance you could paste the entire stack traces?  
For example,
#0  0x003735c3c868 in slapi_get_mapping_tree_node_by_dn@plt () from 
/usr/lib64/dirsrv/libslapd.so.0
#0  0x003735c4ad38 in slapi_dn_normalize_ext () from 
/usr/lib64/dirsrv/libslapd.so.0
etc. are nice to have, but much better would be the entire stack traces 
of these calls so we can see where they are called from.

 Thanks,
 Justin

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Re: [389-users] Replication issue

2011-10-12 Thread Reinhard Nappert
Rich,

I was thinking about the Replica has a different generation ID than the local 
data. error, because I have seen this before. If possible, I want to avoid 
that I have to go though each box and re-initialize.

So, you suggest I take let's say D (or A) and re-initialize B with D's data. 
Then, I would have to re-initialize F from B, right?

Let's go a bit further: If I had an agreement from A to F (and vice versa), I 
would not even have to re-initialize F from B. Is this correct?

-Reinhard


From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:00 PM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Cc: Reinhard Nappert; Marc Sauton
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 02:41 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:
How do I do this manually on server A?

The other question is, what kind of impact does it have when I re-iitialize 
server B? To be more precise, my replication environment is more complex than 
just server A and server B. In fact, I have a setup like the following:

srv C -- srv A -- srv B -- srv D -- srv C
 /\ /\
 |   |
\/  \/
  srv E  srv F

I don't want to end up to re-initialize all boxes in my environment.
Assuming C and D are up to date and don't have any problems, reinitializing B 
should affect only B and F.

Thanks,
-Reinhard


From: Marc Sauton [mailto:msau...@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:36 PM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Cc: Reinhard Nappert
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 01:22 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:
Hi,

I encountered the following logs in the errors:

[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - changelog program - 
agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB (srvB:389): CSN 4e8d804a000c not found, we aren't 
as up to date, or we purged
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Data required to update replica has been purged. The replica must 
be reinitialized.


[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Incremental update failed and requires administrator action



Does anyone have an idea, what could have caused this and more importantly, how 
to fix this?



Thanks

-Reinhard


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On server A, read a changelog to manually run the changes on server B.
May be tune up nsds5ReplicaPurgeDelay if such errors somehow appears regularly.
Otherwise, like the errors log says, the change was purged/removed, and replica 
need a re-init.
M.


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Re: [389-users] Replication issue

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/12/2011 02:08 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Rich,
I was thinking about the Replica has a different generation ID than 
the local data. error, because I have seen this before. If possible, 
I want to avoid that I have to go though each box and re-initialize.
So, you suggest I take let's say D (or A) and re-initialize B with D's 
data. Then, I would have to re-initialize F from B, right?

Right.
Let's go a bit further: If I had an agreement from A to F (and vice 
versa), I would not even have to re-initialize F from B. Is this correct?
Assuming the AtoF agreement is not complaining about unable to find 
CSN and data reload, then yes.

-Reinhard


*From:* Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:00 PM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Cc:* Reinhard Nappert; Marc Sauton
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 02:41 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

How do I do this manually on server A?
The other question is, what kind of impact does it have when I 
re-iitialize server B? To be more precise, my replication environment 
is more complex than just server A and server B. In fact, I have a 
setup like the following:

srv C -- srv A -- srv B -- srv D -- srv C
 /\ /\
 |   |
\/  \/
  srv E  srv F
I don't want to end up to re-initialize all boxes in my environment.
Assuming C and D are up to date and don't have any problems, 
reinitializing B should affect only B and F.

Thanks,
-Reinhard


*From:* Marc Sauton [mailto:msau...@redhat.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:36 PM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Cc:* Reinhard Nappert
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 01:22 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:

Hi,
I encountered the following logs in the errors:
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - changelog program - 
agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB (srvB:389): CSN 4e8d804a000c not found, we aren't 
as up to date, or we purged
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Data required to update replica has been purged. The replica must be 
reinitialized.
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Incremental update failed and requires administrator action
  
Does anyone have  an idea, what could have caused this and more importantly, how to fix this?
  
Thanks

-Reinhard


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On server A, read a changelog to manually run the changes on server B.
May be tune up nsds5ReplicaPurgeDelay if such errors somehow appears 
regularly.
Otherwise, like the errors log says, the change was purged/removed, 
and replica need a re-init.

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Re: [389-users] Replication issue

2011-10-12 Thread Reinhard Nappert
Good.

what about the different generation ID message? Is it possible that this could 
be caused by a re-initialize?

But then, I thought a re-initialize would fix this error, if it occurs.

-Reinhard


From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:11 PM
To: Reinhard Nappert
Cc: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.; Marc Sauton
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/12/2011 02:08 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:
Rich,

I was thinking about the Replica has a different generation ID than the local 
data. error, because I have seen this before. If possible, I want to avoid 
that I have to go though each box and re-initialize.

So, you suggest I take let's say D (or A) and re-initialize B with D's data. 
Then, I would have to re-initialize F from B, right?
Right.

Let's go a bit further: If I had an agreement from A to F (and vice versa), I 
would not even have to re-initialize F from B. Is this correct?
Assuming the AtoF agreement is not complaining about unable to find CSN and 
data reload, then yes.

-Reinhard


From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:00 PM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Cc: Reinhard Nappert; Marc Sauton
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 02:41 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:
How do I do this manually on server A?

The other question is, what kind of impact does it have when I re-iitialize 
server B? To be more precise, my replication environment is more complex than 
just server A and server B. In fact, I have a setup like the following:

srv C -- srv A -- srv B -- srv D -- srv C
 /\ /\
 |   |
\/  \/
  srv E  srv F

I don't want to end up to re-initialize all boxes in my environment.
Assuming C and D are up to date and don't have any problems, reinitializing B 
should affect only B and F.

Thanks,
-Reinhard


From: Marc Sauton [mailto:msau...@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:36 PM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Cc: Reinhard Nappert
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replication issue

On 10/11/2011 01:22 PM, Reinhard Nappert wrote:
Hi,

I encountered the following logs in the errors:

[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - changelog program - 
agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB (srvB:389): CSN 4e8d804a000c not found, we aren't 
as up to date, or we purged
[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Data required to update replica has been purged. The replica must 
be reinitialized.


[06/Oct/2011:10:11:57 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - agmt=cn=srvAtosrvB 
(srvB:389): Incremental update failed and requires administrator action



Does anyone have an idea, what could have caused this and more importantly, how 
to fix this?



Thanks

-Reinhard


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On server A, read a changelog to manually run the changes on server B.
May be tune up nsds5ReplicaPurgeDelay if such errors somehow appears regularly.
Otherwise, like the errors log says, the change was purged/removed, and replica 
need a re-init.
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Re: FC14 problem no root device found

2011-10-12 Thread Gijs
On 9-10-2011 17:19, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 20:25:50 +0200,
Gijsi...@bsnw.nl  wrote:

 I created a raid-1 device for the /boot partition. I copied my existing
 boot to /boot and my existing root to the LVM-volume that is ontop of a
 raid-5 device. I tried booting from it, but I just can't get it to mount
 the root right after it boots the kernel. I get the message no root
 device found.

 I pretty much tried everything. I recreated the initrd because I thought
 it might have something to do with the raid device (which I didn't have
 before). But after inspecting the initrd contents of my original stock
 kernel, I found mdadm and other raid-related files. So I figured that
 shouldn't be the problem.

 I tried specifying the root partition in a number of ways. By UUID, by
 /dev/mapper/raid--5--lvm-root, by /dev/md-0, by /dev/raid-5/root,
 by label root. Nothing worked.

 Does anyone have any idea how to solve this?

 Did you update fstab and mdadm.conf on the new system and rerun dracut?
 (I usually use the kernel update script to rerun dracut so I don't
 need to remember the options.)

 The initramfs includes information about which devices to activate before
 doing the root pivot. If you don't have the raid array for root in mdadm.conf
 the array won't be started and hence won't be available to change to.

 You might need to do something similar for lvm. I don't use it, so I don't
 need to worry about it.

I thought I updated the initrd, but I guess I used the wrong command. I 
checked the command that the RPM of the kernel runs on installation, as 
you suggested, and executed that command. Was able to get it booting 
right away :) Thanks!
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Re: Slow wireless...

2011-10-12 Thread Linda McLeod

I read that messy wires cause slowness..  

If power-wires cross data-wires, it can make for a nasty reception
slow-down..

'Suggest you separate your power wires from your data wires as far apart
as you can, then test the speeds...

Off the top, I wonders if the wall socket is wired properly..?  Some
handy folks, who replace and rewire AC outlets, sometimes get the prong
wires crossed, which makes a huge pile of electronics problems and cause
occasional failures.. but probably not in your case.. but for those who
want to know if the wall sockets are wired properly, there's a cheap
polarity tester, on the market, that you just plug into the wall socket,
and the little lights tell you immediately if it's wired right...  
Crossed wiring can be dangerous with power tools, and especially when
coupled devices grounds are hot, or warm... Usually the first strong
indicator of poor wiring, leading to mismatched grounds, is hum in
audio, and ghost-bars in video...

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Re: [389-users] sendmail LDAP routing

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/12/2011 03:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 Looks like 389 doesn't by default have the LDAP Schema for Intranet Mail
 Routing schema defined which uses objectClass inetLocalMailRecipient.  Any
 particular reason for this?  Is there a more useful schema?
I don't know about more useful, but there is 50ns-mail.ldif (deprecated) 
and 60inetmail.ldif - is perhaps LDAP Schema for Intranet Mail Routing 
schema and updated version of the schema from 60inetmail.ldif?  Please 
feel free to open a bug/RFE and attach the schema file you're using for 
inclusion in 389.


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Re: Unlock SIM pin with NetworkManager

2011-10-12 Thread Hiisi
On 10 October 2011 12:03, Daniele Guerrieri d.guerri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 i'm searching for a method to force unlock of sim card pin in a huawei usb
 hsdpa device (ZTE K3565-Z HSDPA).

 The problem is this: the first time i insert it, i'm asked for the PIN with
 a popup dialog and so the sim gets unlocked and i can connect to it with
 wammu.

 BUT if I suspend,hibernate or simply remove and re insert the usb huawei,
 sim remains locked and i'm no more prompted to insert the pin; I've tried to
 stop NetworkManager, kill modem-manager and restart both but it didn't.
 work. The only way is a complete reboot.

 Does anyone know a method to force sim card unlock?

 Thanks,

 Daniele


Sorry, I don't know how to force NetworkManager to do whatever you
want it to do (I don't use it at all). But I suggest you to completely
disable pin code request. You can use minicom for that purpose or
simply send needed command directly to device. For example:
$ echo -e «AT+CPIN=\r\n»  /dev/ttyUSB0
The above command will send pin code '' to the modem connected to
/dev/ttyUSB0.
Google is your friend here. Something you may consider to do:
http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/04/howto-disable-sim-card-pin-on-wavecom.html
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Re: [389-users] sendmail LDAP routing

2011-10-12 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/12/2011 03:35 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
 On 10/12/2011 03:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 Looks like 389 doesn't by default have the LDAP Schema for Intranet Mail
 Routing schema defined which uses objectClass inetLocalMailRecipient. Any
 particular reason for this? Is there a more useful schema?
 I don't know about more useful, but there is 50ns-mail.ldif (deprecated) and
 60inetmail.ldif - is perhaps LDAP Schema for Intranet Mail Routing schema and
 updated version of the schema from 60inetmail.ldif? Please feel free to open a
 bug/RFE and attach the schema file you're using for inclusion in 389.

60inetmail.ldif is close - it has mailRoutingAddress attribute, but not the 
inetLocalMailRecipient object class.

sendmail I think is using http://www.sendmail.org/m4/laser.txt as a reference.

I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745645

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Re: FSB overclocking (Turbo33)

2011-10-12 Thread Shiv Manas
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.netwrote:


 Is there any tool that I can use to do this from inside Fedora?  There
 does not seem to be a BIOS knob for it, just the Windows control interface.

 Thanks,
 - Michael



It can be done using lfsb, but it depends on whether or not your PLL is
supported. Also, relevant thread here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/430230-softfsb-ocing-4-linux-dev.html


@everyone else : This is *not* CPU Frequency scaling.


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Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Tom Horsley
Especially when a new biosdevname package is installed and it
decides the name is no longer p4p1, but is now p6p1.

All the iptables rules that refer to the interface name
are broken.

The ifcfg-p4p1 file needs to be renamed and edited.

Wasn't the theory propounded that these new names
would cause less confusion?

(And why was having some disks named hda0 versus sda0
confusing, so we had to change all the names to sda0?
Can these two theories be made compatible? :-).
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Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Thomas Dineen
Gentle People:

   Keep in mind that I have the up most respect for the volunteer
Fedora developers and their efforts!

   Do we need to have some sort of regularity forum or regime
to control changes to the look and feel of the Fedora Code?

   Keep in mind that I am speaking from the users standpoint,
where I am seeing a lot of changes that:
a) Seriously annoy and inconvenience the user.
b) Seem to have little logical justification or utility.

  Maybe we need to have Forum like this one where we discuss
and approve these changes before they are implemented?

  For example the proponents provide a (Short) written proposal
and justification, then interested parties are encourages to comment on
the implications of the proposed change. Collateral damage? Who else
will be required to make changes to what packages? How are users
affected? Existing scripts and applications?

Thomas Dineen




On 10/12/2011 5:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 Especially when a new biosdevname package is installed and it
 decides the name is no longer p4p1, but is now p6p1.

 All the iptables rules that refer to the interface name
 are broken.

 The ifcfg-p4p1 file needs to be renamed and edited.

 Wasn't the theory propounded that these new names
 would cause less confusion?

 (And why was having some disks named hda0 versus sda0
 confusing, so we had to change all the names to sda0?
 Can these two theories be made compatible? :-).

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Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Thomas Dineen tdin...@ix.netcom.com wrote:


      Maybe we need to have Forum like this one where we discuss
 and approve these changes before they are implemented?


Forget it.  Computer software types understand neither physics nor
mathematics, nor, for the most part, how computers actually work.

In order for this sub-species to survive emotionally, it is necessary
for them to have control over something.  Since they don't understand
anything they don't control arbitrarily, arbitrary changes are the
price we pay for the services of these geniuses.

Robert.
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Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth
On 10/12/2011 09:35 PM, Robert Myers wrote:
 Forget it.  Computer software types understand neither physics nor
 mathematics, nor, for the most part, how computers actually work.

 In order for this sub-species to survive emotionally, it is necessary
 for them to have control over something.  Since they don't understand
 anything they don't control arbitrarily, arbitrary changes are the
 price we pay for the services of these geniuses.

Can you please cut this crap out?  Can all the people on this list that 
feel the need to insult Fedora and its devs please choose another 
distribution to use and unsubscribe from this list?  Adults have better 
things to do than to slog through this kind of ugliness.

The adults also realize that Fedora already has a process pretty much 
exactly as Thomas described, and participate in it if they want to.

Thanks
Mike
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Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Mike Wohlgemuth m...@woogie.net wrote:
 On 10/12/2011 09:35 PM, Robert Myers wrote:
 Forget it.  Computer software types understand neither physics nor
 mathematics, nor, for the most part, how computers actually work.

 In order for this sub-species to survive emotionally, it is necessary
 for them to have control over something.  Since they don't understand
 anything they don't control arbitrarily, arbitrary changes are the
 price we pay for the services of these geniuses.

 Can you please cut this crap out?

No.

Robert.
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Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:45:52 -0700
Thomas Dineen tdin...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

...snip...

Keep in mind that I am speaking from the users standpoint,
 where I am seeing a lot of changes that:
 a) Seriously annoy and inconvenience the user.
 b) Seem to have little logical justification or utility.
 
   Maybe we need to have Forum like this one where we discuss
 and approve these changes before they are implemented?
 
   For example the proponents provide a (Short) written proposal
 and justification, then interested parties are encourages to comment
 on the implications of the proposed change. Collateral damage? Who
 else will be required to make changes to what packages? How are users
 affected? Existing scripts and applications?

To some extent we have this in the Feature process. 

For example, the network biosdevname feature is outlined at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming
including rationale and how to easily disable it, and other feature
information. 

There's no way every change could be proposed and brought up on this
list for scrutiny however, there's just no way it could handle the
volume, even if all developers working on anything in Linux knew to
discuss their development here. 

You're welcome to look over the F16 features for any you want to chime
in on... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/FeatureList

Otherwise I can only suggest you get involved in areas you are
concerned with the development of. 

kevin


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Re: Scanner drivers for a Epson Workforce 635

2011-10-12 Thread d p

mickey wrote:
 Does anyone knows where I can get Scanner Drivers for a Epson
 Workforce 635 inkjet printer.  

Sane is the only Linux scanning project AFAIK. There's no driver to 
find, compile, or install. You will either have support with sane or
you won't.

Try gnome-scan, gimp with the sane plugin, LibreOffice (aquire
option), 
or xsane,

 I suppose you have found iscan from Epson at:  

 http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/scan/DL1.do

However I can't install it due to dependency problems.

DP

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Re: Fedora15 focus issues.

2011-10-12 Thread Hardik Soni-Ennovate
Yes 
KDE resolves that problem but i dont want to use KDE i m a Gnome user, 
and i have to use Gnome compulsory,so is there any solution with Gnome theme. 
- Original Message - 
From: Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com 
To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011 5:20:20 PM 
Subject: Re: Fedora15 focus issues. 

On 10/12/2011 07:35 AM, Hardik Soni-Ennovate wrote: 
 Hi All, 
 I am using Fedora15 with the Gnome theme, 
 but the problem I am facing is that, 
 
 When ever i run my Installer which is built using the InstallJammer so 
 at the time of installation, 
 the first window of installer hides behind the Current Window, even if 
 my installation window hides behind the current window if i do 
 
 1) Alt + space its working on my installation window not on current window. 
 2) Alt + F4 it closes my installation window which was hides behind the 
 current window. 
 3) If i switch to another work station and come back to the previous 
 work station then it will display the installation window on the top. 
 
 So, from that above observation i think that my window is on top but the 
 Gnome is not displaying it on the Top. 
 
 Is it a bug in Gnome for Fedora 15 or what ?? 
 Any one has any suggestion or idea. 
 
 
 Hardik 
 
 

Try another DE .. I'd suggest either KDE or XFCE ... see if that 
resolves your problem. 



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