Re: Verbose output from Daemons on startup

[T.C. Hollingsworth]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Nathan D'elboux  wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have built a new Linux box recently, have been using Fedora for years so
> decided to stick with it and put Fedora 15 on it
> I am familiar with strace and redirecting STOUT and STDERR for debugging
> apps on the CLI but what i am unfamiliar with is on bootup
> When the list of daemons begin to start up and eventually gets the [OK]
> message i have 1 daemon that will hang
> So my question is, is there some way whether it be by Console port or rescue
> disk can i get a verbose output of what the daemon is doing
> when attempting to boot up so i can verify what part exactly it is failing
> at?
> I want to possibly pipe all STOUT to another box via console or just on
> local screen but i want a verbose output so i can see more detail of what
> the kernel is doing on bootup behind the scenes

Usually its easier to debug daemon problems by just running them on
the command line.  Look for the ExecStart line in
/lib/systemd/system/.service or if it uses classic initscripts
check the corresponding file in /etc/init.d for the command that is
run.  That way you can easily run it through strace if you need to.

That being said, on Fedora 16, systemd redirects stdout and stderr to
syslog, so you can view the output from the daemons in
/var/log/messages.  Unfortunately, IIRCC F15 systemd does not do this,
so edit /etc/systemd/system.conf and add a line that says
"DefaultStandardOutput=syslog".  The next time you boot, all daemons'
stdout and stderr will be stored in syslog so you can view it
afterward, either in /var/log/messages or with a viewer like
KSystemLog.  Messages from the kernel are also stored there, so you
can see everything in one place.

You can also set DefaultStandardOutput to "syslog+console" to have it
output to the console as well, but that can be problematic because
systemd starts many services in parallel.  (If you decide to do that,
make sure to remove "rhgb quiet" from your kernel command line as well
so Plymouth gets out of the way and kernel messages are printed to the
console also.)

It's also rather easy to run systemd native services through strace,
just run copy the .service file from /lib/systemd/system to
/etc/systemd/system and append strace the command on the ExecStart
line.  When you're done, just rm the file in /etc and the one in /lib
will take back over.  Classic initscripts are a little harder:  you
have to find the appropriate line in the script and change it, and
then change it back when you're done.

> I tried explaining it as well as i could so i apologize if some people get
> confused. I can post any other details needed if need be like Specs etc
> Thanks guys
> Cheers,
> Nathan

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Verbose output from Daemons on startup

[Nathan D'elboux]

Hi All,
I have built a new Linux box recently, have been using Fedora for years so 
decided to stick with it and put Fedora 15 on it
I am familiar with strace and redirecting STOUT and STDERR for debugging apps 
on the CLI but what i am unfamiliar with is on bootup
When the list of daemons begin to start up and eventually gets the [OK] message 
i have 1 daemon that will hang
So my question is, is there some way whether it be by Console port or rescue 
disk can i get a verbose output of what the daemon is doing when attempting to 
boot up so i can verify what part exactly it is failing at? 
I want to possibly pipe all STOUT to another box via console or just on local 
screen but i want a verbose output so i can see more detail of what the kernel 
is doing on bootup behind the scenes
I tried explaining it as well as i could so i apologize if some people get 
confused. I can post any other details needed if need be like Specs etc
Thanks guys
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Re: TV Tuner cards?

[Geoffrey Leach]

On 10/30/2011 12:44:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alex  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm interested in a TV tuner card that I can connect to my roof
> > antenna with a RG6 coax, and wondered if anyone had any 
> suggestions?
> > I've used the Happauge cards in the past, but that was quite some
> time
> > ago. I've found the linuxtv.org page, and although they have a list
> of
> > available TV tuners, they don't really give any impression on which
> > have the best features, etc.
> >
> > I'd probably also like to set up MythTV at some point.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> There's plenty of history in the list archives as this is a pretty
> frequent question.
> 
> I'm really happy with my HDHomerun 3. I'm not sure if you're familiar
> with them, but they are a stand alone tuner that basically puts the
> MPEG2 stream from ATSC (Over the air) or unencrypted cable (QAM) on
> your network. It's nice because you don't have to worry about kernel
> drivers and it also means you don't have to run your coax cable to
> your computer in a combined frontend/backend MythTV setup. My HDHR is
> in the closet with the rest of the networking equipment and my MythTV
> FE/BE is in the entertainment center.

I can second the recommendation of the HDHomerun (mine is a 2, so no 
cable). I can also offer a set of Perl scripts to manage scraping of 
shows from zap2it and programming of the recording.


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Re: SL6 to F16??

[Joe Zeff]

On 10/30/2011 09:49 AM, Beartooth wrote:
>   I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine, and
> now I want to try F16 with xfce --*not*  live, but installed, with
> the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the gnome
> version and then add xfce.

Not so!  Select Customize Now (or whatever the equivalent is) and select 
XFCE and unselect Gnome.
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Re: SL6 to F16??

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:57:28 + (UTC)
Beartooth  wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:03:41 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:49:54 + (UTC)
> > Beartooth  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish
> >> machine, and now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but
> >> installed, with the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to
> >> install the gnome version and then add xfce. Do I just command
> >> "yum install xfce," or is there something more esoteric?
> > 
> > yum groupinstall xfce-desktop
> > 
> > You don't need to install gnome. Just deselect it when you do the
> > install.
> 
>   Oh good. And can I then still use a few gnome apps I depend
> on, comparably to running gnome but using Konqueror for man pages and
> K3B for media? (iirc, I have to install a good bit of KDE to get
> those.)

>>whack

Beartooth:

There's another way to skin this particular cat: Download and install
the xfce spin, then add whatever other stuff you wish. Be aware too
that the xfce spin includes a lot of Gnome. Not all of it is necessary.

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Re: TV Tuner cards?

[Richard Shaw]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alex  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm interested in a TV tuner card that I can connect to my roof
> antenna with a RG6 coax, and wondered if anyone had any suggestions?
> I've used the Happauge cards in the past, but that was quite some time
> ago. I've found the linuxtv.org page, and although they have a list of
> available TV tuners, they don't really give any impression on which
> have the best features, etc.
>
> I'd probably also like to set up MythTV at some point.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?

There's plenty of history in the list archives as this is a pretty
frequent question.

I'm really happy with my HDHomerun 3. I'm not sure if you're familiar
with them, but they are a stand alone tuner that basically puts the
MPEG2 stream from ATSC (Over the air) or unencrypted cable (QAM) on
your network. It's nice because you don't have to worry about kernel
drivers and it also means you don't have to run your coax cable to
your computer in a combined frontend/backend MythTV setup. My HDHR is
in the closet with the rest of the networking equipment and my MythTV
FE/BE is in the entertainment center.

Richard
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TV Tuner cards?

[Alex]

Hi,
I'm interested in a TV tuner card that I can connect to my roof
antenna with a RG6 coax, and wondered if anyone had any suggestions?
I've used the Happauge cards in the past, but that was quite some time
ago. I've found the linuxtv.org page, and although they have a list of
available TV tuners, they don't really give any impression on which
have the best features, etc.

I'd probably also like to set up MythTV at some point.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: problems while installing softwares

[suvayu ali]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 16:00, rohit bishnoi  wrote:
> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
>
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin

Just use the adobe yum repo or download the rpm and install with

# yum install /path/to/rpm

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Re: SL6 to F16??

[Beartooth]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:03:41 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:49:54 + (UTC)
> Beartooth  wrote:
> 
> 
>>  I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine,
>> and now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but installed, with
>> the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the gnome
>> version and then add xfce. Do I just command "yum install xfce," or is
>> there something more esoteric?
> 
> yum groupinstall xfce-desktop
> 
> You don't need to install gnome. Just deselect it when you do the
> install.

Oh good. And can I then still use a few gnome apps I depend on, 
comparably to running gnome but using Konqueror for man pages and K3B for 
media? (iirc, I have to install a good bit of KDE to get those.)

>>  In the course of playing with SL, I've put spare copies of
>> various data into it, and of course tweaked all sorts of things, many
>> of them a tad bit tedious; I'd like to preserve them into the F16
>> install.
> 
> You can save off your homedir and keep all those settings easily.

You mean like copying them to an external drive and then back?

> Other things you will likely have to re-tweak.
 
 I've certainly done it plenty of times before 

Thanks for the clues!

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Re: SL6 to F16??

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:49:54 + (UTC)
Beartooth  wrote:

> 
>   I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine,
> and now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but installed,
> with the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the
> gnome version and then add xfce. Do I just command "yum install
> xfce," or is there something more esoteric?

yum groupinstall xfce-desktop

You don't need to install gnome. Just deselect it when you do the
install. 

>   In the course of playing with SL, I've put spare copies of 
> various data into it, and of course tweaked all sorts of things, many
> of them a tad bit tedious; I'd like to preserve them into the F16
> install. 

You can save off your homedir and keep all those settings easily. 
Other things you will likely have to re-tweak. 

>   Is there a way Fedora can treat SL6 as if I were upgrading 
> earlier Fedora install? I see this : 

Nope. Not that I know of. They are different OSes. 

>   There's plenty of space for dual-booting. I suppose I could 
> install into free space, boot to it, mount the SL partition, and copy 
> stuff. But that sounds like needless hassle to me, even if I got all
> of it right.
> 
>   Is there another way??

Nope. 

kevin


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xfce packages [was: SL6 to F16??]

[Paul Morgan]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:49:54PM +, Beartooth wrote:
> I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine, and 
> now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but installed, with 
> the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the gnome 
> version and then add xfce. Do I just command "yum install xfce," or is 
> there something more esoteric?
-snip-

fwiw I use a puppet class to install xfce.
The list of packages in my class is at:
https://gist.github.com/1326115

hth,
-paul
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SL6 to F16??

[Beartooth]

I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine, and 
now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but installed, with 
the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the gnome 
version and then add xfce. Do I just command "yum install xfce," or is 
there something more esoteric?

In the course of playing with SL, I've put spare copies of 
various data into it, and of course tweaked all sorts of things, many of 
them a tad bit tedious; I'd like to preserve them into the F16 install. 

Is there a way Fedora can treat SL6 as if I were upgrading 
earlier Fedora install? I see this : 

$ uname -a
Linux Hbsk.localdomain 2.6.32-131.17.1.el6.i686 #1 SMP Wed Oct 5 17:20:08 
CDT 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

There's plenty of space for dual-booting. I suppose I could 
install into free space, boot to it, mount the SL partition, and copy 
stuff. But that sounds like needless hassle to me, even if I got all  of 
it right.

Is there another way??
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Re: problems while installing softwares

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:30:48 +0530, RB (rohit) wrote:

> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
> 
> *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
> bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
> 
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh
> Unpacking JRE ...
> Preparing JRE ...
> VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter:
> No such file or directory
> Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g.
> 
> plz tell me wtz tht prblm.
> thnks in advance..

You're missing the 32-bit run-time environment for your 64-bit
installation.

Start with:  yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2

Try to solve additional library problems in the same way.

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Re: problems while installing softwares

[Jeronimo Calvo]

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On 30 Oct 2011, at 15:00, rohit bishnoi wrote:

> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install 
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
> 
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
> bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF 
> interpreter: No such file or directory


Try installing:

yum install elfutils elfutils-libelf elfutils-libs


Cheers,

Jero
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Re: problems while installing softwares

[Patrick Lists]

On 10/30/2011 04:00 PM, rohit bishnoi wrote:
> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
>
> *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
> bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
>
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh
> Unpacking JRE ...
> Preparing JRE ...
> VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
> Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g.
>
> plz tell me wtz tht prblm.
> thnks in advance..

First of all would you mind using normal spelling? A sentence like "plz 
tell me wtz tht prblm" just does not make sense. This is not twitter. 
And why would you want to make it harder for other people to understand 
your problem?

You are trying to install a 32bit application on a 64bit OS which most 
likely is lacking the 32bit packages which Adobe Reader needs. Why do 
you want to use Adobe Reader instead of the pdf reader that comes with 
Fedora in the first place?

If you *really* want to use the Adobe Reader then you will need to find 
out which 32bit RPM packages it needs and install those. Or you could do 
a fresh install of 32bit F16 and then install Adobe Reader.

Or you could have used Google to search for "adobe reader on x86_64 
Fedora" and find within 5 seconds a link like below which has the better 
method (using RPM packages instead of binaries):

http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-reader-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/

Regards,
Patrick
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Re: problems while installing softwares

[Joe Zeff]

On 10/30/2011 08:04 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
> For Adobe Reader, try "chmod +x AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin" and see if
> that helps with trying to run it. By default it is not executable.

If that were the issue the error message would be "Permission denied."
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Re: problems while installing softwares

[Frank Murphy]

On 30/10/11 15:00, rohit bishnoi wrote:
> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
>
> *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
> bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
>
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh
> Unpacking JRE ...
> Preparing JRE ...
> VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
> Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g.
>
> plz tell me wtz tht prblm.
> thnks in advance..
>
>
>
>

Just guessing, probably the proprietry software?

bad elf != goblin

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Re: problems while installing softwares

[John Aldrich]

On Sun October 30 2011, rohit bishnoi wrote:
> i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
> software i will get some error mesgs like below...
> 
> *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
> bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
> 
> [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh
> Unpacking JRE ...
> Preparing JRE ...
> VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
> interpreter: No such file or directory
> Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g.
> 
> plz tell me wtz tht prblm.
> thnks in advance..
>
For Adobe Reader, try "chmod +x AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin" and see if 
that helps with trying to run it. By default it is not executable.
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problems while installing softwares

[rohit bishnoi]

i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install
software i will get some error mesgs like below...

*[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin
bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF
interpreter: No such file or directory

[root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh
Unpacking JRE ...
Preparing JRE ...
VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter:
No such file or directory
Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g.

plz tell me wtz tht prblm.
thnks in advance..
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Re: irqbalance in fedora15

[Benjamin]

 Yes, I want to set manually irq afinity for my lan interface on 
multiple cpus.


How to do it?

Benjo
Actually, in my experience you'd want each device (or actually each 
irq - especially in the case of multi-queue device)  to fall squarely 
on one CPU core by manually setting the irq_affinity.


I place very little faith on automated irq balancing.


- Gilboa

On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Benjamin > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to configure irqbalance on both cpus.I have 2 lan interface 
one is wan and second is lan , currently i have 2 cpu and wan is 
falling on cpu0 and lan is also falling on cpu0.And now i want to set 
both interface should be fall on both cpus.

>
> How to do it?
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor: 0
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 6
> model: 23
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E7500  @ 2.93GHz
> stepping: 10
> cpu MHz: 2933.727
> cache size: 3072 KB
> physical id: 0
> siblings: 2
> core id: 0
> cpu cores: 2
> apicid: 0
> initial apicid: 0
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug: no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu: yes
> fpu_exception: yes
> cpuid level: 13
> wp: yes
> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx 
lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni monitor tm2 ssse3 
lahf_lm dts

> bogomips: 5867.45
> clflush size: 64
> cache_alignment: 64
> address sizes: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management:
>
> processor: 1
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 6
> model: 23
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E7500  @ 2.93GHz
> stepping: 10
> cpu MHz: 2933.727
> cache size: 3072 KB
> physical id: 0
> siblings: 2
> core id: 1
> cpu cores: 2
> apicid: 1
> initial apicid: 1
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug: no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu: yes
> fpu_exception: yes
> cpuid level: 13
> wp: yes
> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx 
lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni monitor tm2 ssse3 
lahf_lm dts

> bogomips: 5866.47
> clflush size: 64
> cache_alignment: 64
> address sizes: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management:
>
>
> cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0   CPU1
>0:258743   IO-APIC-edge  timer
>1:653651   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
>8:17989402243825   IO-APIC-edge  rtc0
>9:  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
>   12:   5479 68   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
>   14:  0  0   IO-APIC-edge  ata_piix
>   15:  0  0   IO-APIC-edge  ata_piix
>   16:  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb5
>   18:  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4
>   19: 465089 466793   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_piix, uhci_hcd:usb3
>   21:   81532619593   IO-APIC-fasteoi   p2p1
>   23:  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, 
uhci_hcd:usb2

>   40:  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  PCIe PME
>   41:  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  PCIe PME, pciehp
>   42:  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  PCIe PME, pciehp
>   43:138330   PCI-MSI-edge  i915
>   44:7261040445   PCI-MSI-edge  p10p1
>   45:143147   PCI-MSI-edge  hda_intel
>  NMI:876739   Non-maskable interrupts
>  LOC:51029163854827   Local timer interrupts
>  SPU:  0  0   Spurious interrupts
>  PMI:876739   Performance monitoring interrupts
>  IWI:  0  0   IRQ work interrupts
>  RES:   5645   5530   Rescheduling interrupts
>  CAL:   1424   1909   Function call interrupts
>  TLB:  24029  20181   TLB shootdowns
>  TRM:  0  0   Thermal event interrupts
>  THR:  0  0   Threshold APIC interrupts
>  MCE:  0  0   Machine check exceptions
>  MCP:883883   Machine check polls
>  ERR:  1
>  MIS:  0
>
> Regards,
> Benjamin
>
>

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Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:38:13 -0700, JZ (Joe) wrote:

> On 10/01/2011 06:28 PM, David wrote:
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
> > rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Fedora/2.0.0.23-1.fc10
> > Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666"
> >
> > Which looks like FC 10 and TBird 2.0.0.23 to me.
> 
> [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uname -r
> 2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
> 
> I have no idea how it could claim Fedora 10 as I went from 9 to 11 
> without ever using 10, just as I'm skipping 15 and for the same reason. 
>   And Thunderbird claims to be version 3.1.14.

A bug? Or a configuration setting? Have you done a fresh install or an upgrade?
Could it be that the old version string has entered your preferences and 
overrides
the default?

The F14 package certainly sets up a Fedora User-Agent string that
matches its build version-release:

$ grep thunderbird_ver thunderbird.spec 
%define thunderbird_version 3.1.15
Version:%{thunderbird_version}
%{__cat} %{SOURCE12} | %{__sed} -e 
's,THUNDERBIRD_RPM_VR,%{thunderbird_version}-%{release},g' \
cp 
objdir-tb/mozilla/dist/%{name}-%{thunderbird_version}*.crashreporter-symbols.zip
 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT$DEBUG_LIB_DIR/debug%{mozappdir}


For F11, last Thunderbird was 3.0.5. And that one would also not report
being 2.0.0.23-1.fc10,

  
http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/updates/11/SRPMS/thunderbird-3.0.4-2.fc11.src.rpm

unless an older User-Agent id somehow overrides the default one.

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