Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/12/2012 04:44 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and weeding out all of the blind leads. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well. I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm not sure why people think it was so great. I think it's more to do with its heritage. It's been around for a very long time and is well understood. Systemd has a very steep learning curve, is harder to debug because of the said lack of understanding and trying to get your head around service dependencies is a real challenge. It also has some peculiarities which don't seem sane to me. Why do I have write the .service suffix every time I want to manage a service? I've seen the explanation that it handles other unit types like .path so it's to differentiate but then why can't .service be the default if no other unit type is specified? If I try and stop a service that doesn't exist, why doesn't it complain? Try it. systemctl stop cheese.service Great for those typos. Try starting a non existent service systemctl start cheese.service Failed to issue method call: Unit cheese.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status cheese.service' for details. Ok it warns you but then you get this: systemctl -a | grep -i cheese cheese.serviceerror inactive dead cheese.service Leads you to believe there should be a service called cheese and it's failed for some reason. All this stuff is just weird and confusing IMO. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?
On 01/12/2012 02:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: <> > I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was > created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. -=- where you updating same package? could be you two have found a bug with yum/rpm. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?
On 01/12/2012 01:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: <> > What is this all about? -=- if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" when yum/rpm adds a new program that needs to be assigned an id. this also happens to "/etc/group", "/etc/gshadow", and "/etc/passwd". why "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" was removed is hard to answer. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?
On 12/01/12 02:40, Ed Greshko wrote: I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. diff /etc/shadow /etc/shadow- -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?
Hi all, adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files never removed: /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? Kind regards -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: converting base64 emails back to text
On 01/10/2012 01:13 PM, Tim wrote: <> > You could pipe your mail through a local mailserver, one that transcodes > on the way through. Various mail/list servers do that, and you can do > just the same thing, but picking the output encoding that you want used. -=- would you happen to know of a server that has ability built in, instead of having to build up operation, as Ed suggest? > I have to say, though, that I haven't noticed it sending mails in that > encoding. I do look at message sources, from time to time, and base64 > has been a bit of a rarity. -=- it may be that my searches of late are hitting post that happen to all be sent in 'base64'. in past 2 months, i have run 'body' searches for threads that i know contained what i was looking for, but results where zero. i was looking for a thread last week that i had tagged, but i did not recall exactly what "Subject:" was. i then looked thru tagged threads and found what i wanted. when i looked at sources, they where all in 'base64'. > Is it this server doing it? Often, one the mail headers will mention a > transcoding, and you can see which one did it. -=- could be, and a good question. to answer, what does this search tell you; 3101 fedoraproject from 12/01/2011 to 01/12/2012 0319 utc 2812 fedoraproject + Content-Transfer-Encoding base64 289 various type of which; 183 fedoraproject + This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message 106 which could be anything. unfortunately, i could not invert search to see how 106 where sent. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: converting base64 emails back to text
On 01/10/2012 06:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/10/2012 02:07 PM, g wrote: >> so, consider this post as warning of future post. 8-D > > I'm pretty sure I know what you want > > You want a pre-processor to take incoming emails that are in encoded in > base64 and un-encode it before storage in the mailbox. -=- correct. > I don't know of any utility that currently exists that does that. Which > is why I suggested you may, probably, will have to write your own > utility/pre-processor. My reference to procmail was not to say that > "procmail" itself had any capabilities in that area but that it would be > the natural vehicle to call the pre-processor if you are running the > mail server. How the pre-processor would be dependent on how you access > email. -=- i understand you suggestion of using "procmail". i played with it back in 90's, to convert waste of html. it was not a successful adventure, so i gave up on it. now, amount of 'sugar' gained for 'dimes' spent, just does not justify relearning operation of 'procmail' and trial and error to get it right. what i believe i will do is check procmail.org to see if there may be something already working. tho, with my luck, i doubt that i will find what i want. if not, i will try google one more time with some new search params, tho i doubt that will help, considering what all i tried for over an hour before i gave up and posted to list. > I've not searched for any existing utility since I keep all of my emails > on an imap server and text based searches from email clients work just > fine as the un-encoding is done behind the scenes and I've never found > the need to directly search my messagestore with external tools. -=- having your own mail server running is an advantage that i have not seen great need for, considering what all i would have to go thru to set it up and then maintain it. as for running web searches, google is just an out and out waste because even when using 'advanced mode', it is still lacking in ability to refine search params to narrow hits. if i had time and finances, i would create a web search site that worked strictly with algebraic and boolean expressions. it is looking more and more like i will be posting with questions when i can not find what i am looking for in "Subject:". there are many other 'irons in fire' that have a higher priority. i do thank you for your time in replying. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
Firefox just says "server not found". It is running in online mode. I will try re-installing the browser and see what happens. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Pete Travis wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2012 8:17 PM, "John De Graw" wrote: > > > > I have the computer wired to a hub which is wired to the router. Three > other computers (wireless & wired) are going through the same router and > having no difficulties. When I run the "ifconfig" command in terminal it > says it is up and connected. When I ran the "ethtool em1" command I got > the "cannot get 'wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted' ". Netstat > command results show connection also. I can "ping" any website I want to > with positive results. I just can't get a connection through Firefox or any > other web browser I can download. DoggoneBob. > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alchemist wrote: > >> > >> Hello John, maybe you can describe a more little bit? Perhaps there is > >> a problem with your network configuration, nor Firefox. Do you managed > >> your wired connction settings using Network-Manager? > >> > >> 2012/1/11 John De Graw : > >> > Hello Fedora Community, I just installed Fedora 16 and although I am > using > >> > a wired connection, Firefox can't connect. I updated the program and > can > >> > add software just fine but web browser keeps giving me error > messages. > >> > What am I missing here? It was a fresh install with no other OS on the > >> > computer. DoggoneBob. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > users mailing list > >> > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > >> > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > >> > > >> -- > >> users mailing list > >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > >> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > -- > > users mailing list > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > > Can you elaborate? Is Firefox reporting any errors? Did you check to see > if it was in offline mode, or did any of the other suggestions raised help? > > I think you've established good network connectivity, so we need to take a > closet look at your browser. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On Jan 11, 2012 8:17 PM, "John De Graw" wrote: > > I have the computer wired to a hub which is wired to the router. Three other computers (wireless & wired) are going through the same router and having no difficulties. When I run the "ifconfig" command in terminal it says it is up and connected. When I ran the "ethtool em1" command I got the "cannot get 'wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted' ". Netstat command results show connection also. I can "ping" any website I want to with positive results. I just can't get a connection through Firefox or any other web browser I can download. DoggoneBob. > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alchemist wrote: >> >> Hello John, maybe you can describe a more little bit? Perhaps there is >> a problem with your network configuration, nor Firefox. Do you managed >> your wired connction settings using Network-Manager? >> >> 2012/1/11 John De Graw : >> > Hello Fedora Community, I just installed Fedora 16 and although I am using >> > a wired connection, Firefox can't connect. I updated the program and can >> > add software just fine but web browser keeps giving me error messages. >> > What am I missing here? It was a fresh install with no other OS on the >> > computer. DoggoneBob. >> > >> > -- >> > users mailing list >> > users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org >> > >> -- >> users mailing list >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > Can you elaborate? Is Firefox reporting any errors? Did you check to see if it was in offline mode, or did any of the other suggestions raised help? I think you've established good network connectivity, so we need to take a closet look at your browser. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
I have the computer wired to a hub which is wired to the router. Three other computers (wireless & wired) are going through the same router and having no difficulties. When I run the "ifconfig" command in terminal it says it is up and connected. When I ran the "ethtool em1" command I got the "cannot get 'wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted' ". Netstat command results show connection also. I can "ping" any website I want to with positive results. I just can't get a connection through Firefox or any other web browser I can download. DoggoneBob. On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alchemist wrote: > Hello John, maybe you can describe a more little bit? Perhaps there is > a problem with your network configuration, nor Firefox. Do you managed > your wired connction settings using Network-Manager? > > 2012/1/11 John De Graw : > > Hello Fedora Community, I just installed Fedora 16 and although I am > using > > a wired connection, Firefox can't connect. I updated the program and can > > add software just fine but web browser keeps giving me error messages. > > What am I missing here? It was a fresh install with no other OS on the > > computer. DoggoneBob. > > > > -- > > users mailing list > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?
On 01/12/2012 09:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > I just did a yum update on my F16 box, and the transaction reported (among > the > usual things): > > Updating : setup-2.8.36-3.fc16.noarch 111/236 > warning: /etc/shadow created as /etc/shadow.rpmnew > > Additionally, after the update was completed, I looked up /etc/shadow.rpmnew, > and it's not there --- apparently it wasn't created (or was deleted by the > update process). I usually pay due attention to any .rpmnew files during an > update, but (1) I would never expect updates to mess with /etc/shadow, and > (2) > the /etc/shadow.rpmnew is nowhere to be found, after being reported to have > been created. > > What is this all about? > > Best, :-) > Marko > > I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sudoers file
On 1/11/12, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi, > > Any documentation to set up sudoers file apart from man sudoers ? > > Regards, > > Kaushal > Try the following website.. http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sudoers.man.html HTH Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > And I've never had an issue with NM since I started using it, though to > judge from the list traffic, other people have. Go figure. In my experience NM works about 95%, or even 99%, of the time; but when there is a problem it is extremely difficult (or perhaps I should say, I find it extremely difficult) to work out what is wrong. As an example, I was in Italy last week and there was an electrical storm. The internet went down, and I got a little window on my Fedora/KDE laptop, saying (IIRC) "Secrets", with the word Password: followed by a space. But the window would not accept any input. When I closed the window it just came up again. As I didn't realise the internet had gone down, it just appeared to me that the laptop had suffered a fit. Personally, I think NM tries to do too much; I would much prefer an application that just dealt with WiFi. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sudoers file
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Any documentation to set up sudoers file apart from man sudoers ? Maybe you can refer to the /etc/sudoers itself, there are some examples in it. cat /etc/sudoers, which needs root priviledge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Yum is updating /etc/shadow?
I just did a yum update on my F16 box, and the transaction reported (among the usual things): Updating : setup-2.8.36-3.fc16.noarch 111/236 warning: /etc/shadow created as /etc/shadow.rpmnew Additionally, after the update was completed, I looked up /etc/shadow.rpmnew, and it's not there --- apparently it wasn't created (or was deleted by the update process). I usually pay due attention to any .rpmnew files during an update, but (1) I would never expect updates to mess with /etc/shadow, and (2) the /etc/shadow.rpmnew is nowhere to be found, after being reported to have been created. What is this all about? Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Setting SAMBA's file attribute on Selinux.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi fellows, Ref: 3.1.7-1.fc16.x86_64 Trying to set extended attributes(samba_share_t ) to shared files on SAMBA for selinux to work, I decided to use policycoreutils-gui-2.1.4-3.fc16.x86_64 but: == [Lucelio@MAQ01 ~]$ sudo yum install policycoreutils-gui-2.1.4-3.fc16.x86_64 Plugins carregados: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Configurando o processo de instalação Resolvendo dependências - --> Executando verificação da transação - ---> Package policycoreutils-gui.x86_64 0:2.1.4-3.fc16 will be instalado . - --> Resolução de dependências finalizada Error: Pacote: policycoreutils-gui-2.1.4-3.fc16.x86_64 (fedora) Requer: policycoreutils-python = 2.1.4-3.fc16 Instalados: policycoreutils-python-2.1.4-13.fc16.x86_64 (@updates) policycoreutils-python = 2.1.4-13.fc16 Disponível: policycoreutils-python-2.1.4-3.fc16.x86_64 (fedora) policycoreutils-python = 2.1.4-3.fc16 Você pode tentar usar o parâmetro --skip-broken para contornar o problema Você pode tentar executar: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [Lucelio@MAQ01 ~]$ == "--skip-broken" and "rpm" didn't work. Ps. How to select 2.1.4-3fc16 insted of installed 2.1.4-13.fc16? Any help is wellcome. Thanks, - -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF=> U.G.F.=> P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.luce...@gmail.com Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk8OUVgACgkQsNIIM7SvQQUi/wQAow07vOJab8ISmHaimwDILnAL 1T1Mw2BZzpE+6pNNL2GcTkP8CDJ41OjH3aRo1AJvVaTwI62uZlyzLv4AgECU6L6Y AJDEbvd6knFs328DbYo2vzYAWCw8h7IBokxFGTF2LIL5Wq/dtp2fRsi6RMlUjXQ5 rvGikeWojlG8Y4aZ5Qk= =HSmQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
sudoers file
Hi, Any documentation to set up sudoers file apart from man sudoers ? Regards, Kaushal -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
The only real problems I've had with f16 is the one recently discussed in another thread about the kernel problem with heavy disk I/O from one process bogging down everything else on the system. I was using mencoder the other day to convert a .wmv file to a big .avi file for simpler editing, and while writing the .avi everything on my system turned into a useless lump. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Severe intermittent hanging with Firefox, F16, KDE ?
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:33 PM, linux guy wrote: > Firefox is intermittently freezing from time to time in my KDE > sessions, hanging my whole machine for 20 seconds to a minute every 20 > minutes or so. > > Anyone else having this problem ? > > $ yum list firefox > firefox.i686 9.0.1-1.fc16 > > $ uname -a > Linux server.localdomain 3.1.6-1.fc16.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 21 23:18:01 > UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > $ yum list kdebase > kdebase.i686 6:4.7.4-2.fc16 > @updates > > Thanks How much memory do you have? If you have enough tabs/windows in firefox and/or have things that use flash things can easily page on a 2gb machine...and that will cause the machine to respond poorly for a while depending on how fast your paging device is. ps axuww | grep -i firefox will show you the process and how much ram it has. running "vmstat 1" will tell you how much the box is paging...so if you start the vmstat first and then wait and check its output after the event happens you may be able to tell if it is paging. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/12/2012 04:39 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: >> - Libreoffice insists on making files inaccessible via nfs. >>A workaround is to edit /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice to >>comment out these two lines: >> ## SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 ## export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING >>but this must be redone whenever a new update comes along. > > That's been an issue for a long time, well before F16 - are you using > nfsv3? > > I think open/libre-office work directly with nfsv4 (could be wrong). The same problem exists when using nfsv4 > > However, I found nfsv4 to be unusable as a home-folder-server in F16 - > it was a huge source of instability. gluster is problematic too in > F16. I've settled on moosefs as a file server. It works extremely well > with F15 and F16 clients. I've been using nfsv4 since F14 *mostly* without problem. In F15 had the minor hiccough with shares not getting mounted at boot. Had a workaround for that, F16 doesn't have the problem. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/12/2012 04:00 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. > Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. Would you kindly supply the bugzilla # for each one that has been reported? -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Severe intermittent hanging with Firefox, F16, KDE ?
On 01/12/2012 04:33 AM, linux guy wrote: > Firefox is intermittently freezing from time to time in my KDE > sessions, hanging my whole machine for 20 seconds to a minute every 20 > minutes or so. > > Anyone else having this problem ? > > $ yum list firefox > firefox.i686 9.0.1-1.fc16 > > $ uname -a > Linux server.localdomain 3.1.6-1.fc16.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 21 23:18:01 > UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > $ yum list kdebase > kdebase.i686 6:4.7.4-2.fc16 > @updates > > Thanks I haven't experienced this problem. Others have indicated "temporary freezing" of KDE but haven't specifically narrowed it down to "firefox". Are you certain it is "firefox"? Some have reported relief by disabling nepomuk file indexing. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 - Clementine doesn't start
On 01/11/2012 07:45 PM, antonio wrote: A friend of mine (she doesn't speak English) installed Clementine but when she started it nothing happened: starting from a terminal she gets the following message: clementine db error: QSqlError(21, "Unable to execute multiple statements at a time", "not an error") faulty query: "CREATE TABLE schema_version ( version INTEGER NOT NULL ); INSERT INTO schema_version (version) VALUES (0);" bound values: QMap() Unable to update music library database Annullato She removed the ./config/Clementine folder but nothing changed: also a different user on same computer gets the same message. Any hint?? She has same mysql packages as I have on my box, that works fine Tnx That happened to me today when I installed Clementine for the first time. I also removed the config floder but the bug persists. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 15:44 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > > I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's > > a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a > > wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an > > explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow > > it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and > > weeding out all of the blind leads. > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well. > > I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm not > sure why people think it was so great. > > And "systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg; eog plot.svg" is the best tool ever... > > - Mike > > It probably be great if I knew what the plot meant. Can you elucidate? -- === All bad precedents began as justifiable measures. -- Gaius Julius Caesar, quoted in "The Conspiracy of Catiline", by Sallust === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities (uid/gid change script)
On 01/11/2012 04:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/11/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below. Thanx. I've saved it, and your instructions for future use. I presume that this has to be done as root, although you didn't mention it. Yes, run it as root. (And "chmod u+x script.pl" to make it executable.) - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F16 - Clementine doesn't start
A friend of mine (she doesn't speak English) installed Clementine but when she started it nothing happened: starting from a terminal she gets the following message: clementine db error: QSqlError(21, "Unable to execute multiple statements at a time", "not an error") faulty query: "CREATE TABLE schema_version ( version INTEGER NOT NULL ); INSERT INTO schema_version (version) VALUES (0);" bound values: QMap() Unable to update music library database Annullato She removed the ./config/Clementine folder but nothing changed: also a different user on same computer gets the same message. Any hint?? She has same mysql packages as I have on my box, that works fine Tnx -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F16 (Verne) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com http://www.studiodacolpaloschi.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities (uid/gid change script)
On 01/11/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below. Thanx. I've saved it, and your instructions for future use. I presume that this has to be done as root, although you didn't mention it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 01/11/2012 12:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: And I've never had an issue with NM since I started using it, though to judge from the list traffic, other people have. Go figure. My laptop uses NM because network doesn't handle WiFi gracefully. The only problem I've ever had with it is having it list large numbers of WiFi access points that don't exist where I am simply because the last time I used WiFi it found them. I'd much rather that it didn't keep data on any hotspots from one boot to another or, at least, none that you haven't connected to. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/11/2012 12:44 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well. The post includes a huge list of things that systemd does that systemvinit and Upstart don't do. However, as all of those things got done during boot anyway, that just makes systemd a kitchen-sink program. Didn't Unix start out with a design philosophy of writing small programs that did one thing and did it well? Yes, I understand that that was forced by memory limits that no longer apply, but there are still good reasons to stick to it whenever possible: if nothing else, it makes the code much easier to debug. That doesn't mean, of course, that systemd isn't better, just that I don't personally find that a reason to prefer it. And, as the article looks like it was written by the project's developer, we have to take into account his quite understandable bias. I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm not sure why people think it was so great. It's not that it was so great, it's that the system was mature, it was close to bug free and those who needed to mess with it either knew what to do or could easily find out from multiple sources. Now, it's all new again, people have to relearn everything and there's only one place to go if you need hints, which means that anything the developers forgot to mention (and there's always something) isn't documented anywhere. Having read what you've given me, I'm still not sure that it's better than the old system, but it doesn't really matter because, like it or not, it's what we're all stuck with. It's not like a DE, where you can always migrate to another one while sticking with Fedora. If you really, really don't like systemd, your only choice is to find a distro that doesn't use it. Me, I'm sticking with Fedora. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities (uid/gid change script)
On 01/11/2012 03:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/11/2012 12:39 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send
you a sample perl script if you need one.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, when I upgrade my machine I'll move to a 64
bit system and deal with the UID issue. I have three users: myself and
two friends who have ssh access for various reasons. If your script can
handle multiple users without editing, please send me a copy for future
use.
The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below.
First run:
script.pl --foundonly
and that will display a "dry run" of the bash commands it would execute.
That will not actually write any changes to disk.
To do an actual run, do:
script.pl --foundonly --write
The --foundonly switch limits it to gids and uids actually found in your
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files.
- Mike
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use Getopt::Long;
my $old_start = 500;
my $max_old_id = 525;
my $new_start = 1000;
my $write = 0;
my $foundonly = 0;
my $start_at = "/";
GetOptions(
'write' => \$write,
'foundonly' => \$foundonly
);
my $delta = $new_start - $old_start;
my %fix_uids = ();
my %fix_gids = ();
print "\n-- update user database \n\n";
# get user info
while ( ( my $name, my $pass, my $uid ) = getpwent() ) {
if ( $uid >= $old_start && $uid < $new_start ) {
$fix_uids{$uid} = 1;
my $new_uid = $uid + $delta;
my $cmd = "/usr/sbin/usermod --uid $new_uid -o $name";
&do_command($cmd);
}
if ( ( $uid >= $new_start ) && $uid < ( $new_start + $delta ) ) {
$fix_uids{ $uid - $delta } = 1;
}
}
print "\n-- update group database ---\n\n";
# get group info
while ( ( my $name, my $passwd, my $gid ) = getgrent() ) {
if ( $gid >= $old_start && $gid < $new_start ) {
$fix_gids{$gid} = 1;
my $new_gid = $gid + $delta;
my $cmd = "/usr/sbin/groupmod --gid $new_gid -o $name";
&do_command($cmd);
}
if ( ( $gid >= $new_start ) && $gid < ( $new_start + $delta ) ) {
$fix_gids{ $gid - $delta } = 1;
}
}
if ( !$foundonly ) {
foreach my $num ( $old_start .. $max_old_id ) {
$fix_uids{$num} = 1;
$fix_gids{$num} = 1;
}
}
print "\n-- update file uid info \n\n";
foreach my $orig_uid ( sort keys %fix_uids ) {
my $new_uid = $orig_uid + $delta;
&do_command( "/bin/find $start_at -uid "
. $orig_uid
. " -print0 | xargs -0 chown "
. $new_uid );
}
print "\n-- update file gid info \n\n";
foreach my $orig_gid ( sort keys %fix_gids ) {
my $new_gid = $orig_gid + $delta;
&do_command( "/bin/find $start_at -gid "
. $orig_gid
. " -print0 | xargs -0 chgrp "
. $new_gid );
}
print "\n-- update NIS database -\n\n";
&do_command("cd /var/yp/; make");
print "\n-- done \n\n";
if ( !$write ) {
print "NO CHANGES were actually made.\n";
print "To actually execute the above commands, run:\n";
print "$0 --write\n\n";
}
sub do_command {
my $arg = $_[0];
print $arg . "\n";
if ($write) {
print `$arg` . "\n";
}
}
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Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 13:12:39 PM -0500, Timothy Davis wrote: > You do realize that Ubuntu has the firewall turned off by default > and Fedora it is enabled? I had thought to that, but as I said I have ran system-config-firewall to allow incoming ssh connections. Answering to the other poster, IIRC both Ubuntu and now Fedora are set to be DHCP clients. I'll check this and also try the other suggestions when I'm back at my friend's place. Thanks, Marco -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 11/01/12 2:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/11/2012 06:43 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> This has been discussed before on the list. Note that you also need to >> configure NM to manage your interface, otherwise NM will report it as >> offline even when it's online. > > My desktop doesn't use NM, and for a very good reason: it nuked my DNS > numbers every time I rebooted until I permanently disabled it. I've not > had a single issue of that kind since I went back to using network. And I've never had an issue with NM since I started using it, though to judge from the list traffic, other people have. Go figure. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/11/2012 12:39 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send you a sample perl script if you need one. As I've mentioned elsewhere, when I upgrade my machine I'll move to a 64 bit system and deal with the UID issue. I have three users: myself and two friends who have ssh access for various reasons. If your script can handle multiple users without editing, please send me a copy for future use. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and weeding out all of the blind leads. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well. I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm not sure why people think it was so great. And "systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg; eog plot.svg" is the best tool ever... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/11/2012 12:26 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year with zero problems. Its really not that bad anymore... Damning with faint praise, indeed. Seriously, from what I gather, Win7 is far, far better than Vista. Joanne Dow and I have a friend who's a computer columnist among other things. (http://www.jerrypournelle.com) He's reported that within six months after it came out there was no longer even one computer at Chaos Manor running Vista. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
- Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send you a sample perl script if you need one. - With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no microphone, sometimes no sound, sometimes no video. The popup that announces an incoming call fails to appear - sometimes. Despite its non-open status, skype is a critical utility. Some way must be found to support it so it is reliable. Making changes to the kernel that destroy it is not acceptable. Shrug. It's closed source, how can kernel developers possibly support it? If it's closed, only Skype can fix Skype problems, no matter how critical you feel it is... - Some programs fail at random, unpredictible and unrepeatable times. Qtstalker occasionally simply stops working. It's window can be deleted, but a zombie remains. ... - Libreoffice insists on making files inaccessible via nfs. A workaround is to edit /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice to comment out these two lines: ## SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 ## export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING but this must be redone whenever a new update comes along. That's been an issue for a long time, well before F16 - are you using nfsv3? I think open/libre-office work directly with nfsv4 (could be wrong). However, I found nfsv4 to be unusable as a home-folder-server in F16 - it was a huge source of instability. gluster is problematic too in F16. I've settled on moosefs as a file server. It works extremely well with F15 and F16 clients. Life with Fedora is all about bleeding-edge surprises... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Severe intermittent hanging with Firefox, F16, KDE ?
Firefox is intermittently freezing from time to time in my KDE sessions, hanging my whole machine for 20 seconds to a minute every 20 minutes or so. Anyone else having this problem ? $ yum list firefox firefox.i686 9.0.1-1.fc16 $ uname -a Linux server.localdomain 3.1.6-1.fc16.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 21 23:18:01 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ yum list kdebase kdebase.i686 6:4.7.4-2.fc16 @updates Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/11/2012 03:26 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: There is always Microsoft(R) Windows(R) I ran Linux for about two years natively on my main desktop. (first was Linux Mint, then Ubuntu, then Xubuntu after the switch to Unity Desktop) Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year with zero problems. Its really not that bad anymore... Jesse On 1/11/2012 3:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. - I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for many years and am very happy with it. - The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic process. Instead of the rock-solid behaviour of previous releases, Fedora 16 behaves randomly. - On two laptops with encrypted disks, when booting, one asks for the passphrase once; the other twice. The second request can only be seen if rhgb is removed from the kernel boot line, and you watch the systemd spewage carefully. - The command 'reboot' typed in an X terminal emulator, sometimes works; but often hangs the machine, requiring pressing reset. - Shutdown takes much too long, and often fails completely, like reboot. This is quite annoying, especially with laptops. - The 'df' command has been rendered nearly useless due to the voluminous extraneous output. - The mount command, which was once useful, isn't any more. It's simply unreadable. - The systemd system has replaced the simple and easily understood sysv init system with a jumbled mess. The output during boot is scrambled and the terminology is grossly verbose and confusing. It may be a tiny bit quicker to boot on a multicore machine, but the loss of comprehensibility and reliability is much too high a price. - The systemd alternative to editing /etc/inittab with runlevel = 3 is grotesque. - /var/log/boot.log is empty, sometimes. When it is written, it contains no dates. - If 'startxfce4' is used at a console prompt to start an xfce session, root windows have $DISPLAY undefined, and cannot run privileged programs. Critical tabs in various windows (shutdown, nm-applet editing, etc.) are greyed out. A workaround is to create $HOME/.xinitrc with this cryptic line: ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startxfce4 and then use 'startx', as if starting gnome. :-( - grub2 fails to correctly initialize /boot/grub2/grub.cnf when older kernel objects are present in /boot, and alternate root partitions exist. - grub2 sometimes sets the default kernel to an older one; sometimes to the newest one. - Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. - The latest kernel, 3.1.7-1.fc16.x86_64, causes skype to crash unless it is run with strace, in which case it fails to fail. Go figure! - With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no microphone, sometimes no sound, sometimes no video. The popup that announces an incoming call fails to appear - sometimes. Despite its non-open status, skype is a critical utility. Some way must be found to support it so it is reliable. Making changes to the kernel that destroy it is not acceptable. - Some programs fail at random, unpredictible and unrepeatable times. Qtstalker occasionally simply stops working. It's window can be deleted, but a zombie remains. - Systemd doesn't know how to tell time. During boot, time is off by 4 hours, then is fixed when ntp gets going. Perhaps as a result, sometimes, not always, X starts with a screensaver. It's random! - The cups print system can no longer print full Legal size pages. The print space is shifted upward and truncated. - The /etc/rc.d/rc.local file has been deleted. It can be recreated, but you must know to start it with #!/bin/sh and make it executable. Why not simply retain a properly constructed dummy? - gkrellm -s remotesys often quits without reason. Then, sometimes, it cannot be restarted without rebooting remotesys. More randomness. - When xfce is restarted, the session manager restarts gkrellm windows with the bottom section truncated - sometimes. Another randomness. The full length can be restored by manually running the Configuration popup and changing some item, then changing it back. - The session manager for xfce seems unable to restart roxterm windows, but can handle xterm's fine. Why? - On one laptop the NumLock will sometimes turn itself on. This can be annoying if a password must be typed. - On one machine, the password had be typed quickly in a console. The root password was too hard to type to meet that requirement. However, if it was entered by cut-and-paste, it was OK. In X, there was no problem. - On one machine (of seven) the CD drawer pops open at random times. - An older nvidia NV18 GeForce4 MX 440 card requires the earl
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
On 01/11/2012 12:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: - The systemd system has replaced the simple and easily understood sysv init system with a jumbled mess. Right now, I don't understand why the decision was made to make this change. From where I sit, it's beginning to look like change for its own sake, on the principle of, "It's new; it must be better." In many ways it reminds me of my early opinion of pulseaudio: a solution looking for a problem. I don't really believe that that's the whole story, or even the main reason, but considering all of the teething troubles with it, I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and weeding out all of the blind leads. > - Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. AIUI, that's just to bring Fedora into line with all (or almost all) of the other mainstream distros. For the time being, I'm ignoring it; when I upgrade and move to a 64 bit system, I'll deal with it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
There is always Microsoft(R) Windows(R) I ran Linux for about two years natively on my main desktop. (first was Linux Mint, then Ubuntu, then Xubuntu after the switch to Unity Desktop) Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year with zero problems. Its really not that bad anymore... Jesse On 1/11/2012 3:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. - I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for many years and am very happy with it. - The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic process. Instead of the rock-solid behaviour of previous releases, Fedora 16 behaves randomly. - On two laptops with encrypted disks, when booting, one asks for the passphrase once; the other twice. The second request can only be seen if rhgb is removed from the kernel boot line, and you watch the systemd spewage carefully. - The command 'reboot' typed in an X terminal emulator, sometimes works; but often hangs the machine, requiring pressing reset. - Shutdown takes much too long, and often fails completely, like reboot. This is quite annoying, especially with laptops. - The 'df' command has been rendered nearly useless due to the voluminous extraneous output. - The mount command, which was once useful, isn't any more. It's simply unreadable. - The systemd system has replaced the simple and easily understood sysv init system with a jumbled mess. The output during boot is scrambled and the terminology is grossly verbose and confusing. It may be a tiny bit quicker to boot on a multicore machine, but the loss of comprehensibility and reliability is much too high a price. - The systemd alternative to editing /etc/inittab with runlevel = 3 is grotesque. - /var/log/boot.log is empty, sometimes. When it is written, it contains no dates. - If 'startxfce4' is used at a console prompt to start an xfce session, root windows have $DISPLAY undefined, and cannot run privileged programs. Critical tabs in various windows (shutdown, nm-applet editing, etc.) are greyed out. A workaround is to create $HOME/.xinitrc with this cryptic line: ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startxfce4 and then use 'startx', as if starting gnome. :-( - grub2 fails to correctly initialize /boot/grub2/grub.cnf when older kernel objects are present in /boot, and alternate root partitions exist. - grub2 sometimes sets the default kernel to an older one; sometimes to the newest one. - Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. - The latest kernel, 3.1.7-1.fc16.x86_64, causes skype to crash unless it is run with strace, in which case it fails to fail. Go figure! - With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no microphone, sometimes no sound, sometimes no video. The popup that announces an incoming call fails to appear - sometimes. Despite its non-open status, skype is a critical utility. Some way must be found to support it so it is reliable. Making changes to the kernel that destroy it is not acceptable. - Some programs fail at random, unpredictible and unrepeatable times. Qtstalker occasionally simply stops working. It's window can be deleted, but a zombie remains. - Systemd doesn't know how to tell time. During boot, time is off by 4 hours, then is fixed when ntp gets going. Perhaps as a result, sometimes, not always, X starts with a screensaver. It's random! - The cups print system can no longer print full Legal size pages. The print space is shifted upward and truncated. - The /etc/rc.d/rc.local file has been deleted. It can be recreated, but you must know to start it with #!/bin/sh and make it executable. Why not simply retain a properly constructed dummy? - gkrellm -s remotesys often quits without reason. Then, sometimes, it cannot be restarted without rebooting remotesys. More randomness. - When xfce is restarted, the session manager restarts gkrellm windows with the bottom section truncated - sometimes. Another randomness. The full length can be restored by manually running the Configuration popup and changing some item, then changing it back. - The session manager for xfce seems unable to restart roxterm windows, but can handle xterm's fine. Why? - On one laptop the NumLock will sometimes turn itself on. This can be annoying if a password must be typed. - On one machine, the password had be typed quickly in a console. The root password was too hard to type to meet that requirement. However, if it was entered by cut-and-paste, it was OK. In X, there was no problem. - On one machine (of seven) the CD drawer pops open at random times. - An older nvidia NV18 GeForce4 MX 440 card requires the earlier version of the nvidia driver - which is no
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
It turns out the gparted can copy partitions. http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/03/copy-partitions-with-gparted/ I'm not 100% sure that I am going to need Windows. I won't know until I buy a piece of software and attempt to run it under wine in a couple months. Does anyone see a problem with installing Linux on the SSD and using it for a few months, then, if I need to, copy it to a backup drive, installing Windows on the SSD and then copying the Linux install back to the SSD ? What special things happen in a Linux install to make dual boot work ? Thanks ! PS. I HATE Windows. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F16-x64 - Wifi connection too slow - AR928X - ath9k
Folks, I have a fresh intallation of Fedora 16 x64 on my Toshiba A305-S6864 Laptop. I have a problem with my wifi conectivity, it is really, really slow, comparing with the speed using Fedora 10 or Windows 7 on the same machine. I tryed to install compat-wireless-next driver, but my kernel version is not supported yet. According some posts I've found, hardware encryption must be disabled, and it is disable. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance, [root@arwen-fedora pablo]# uname -a Linux arwen-fedora 3.1.6-1.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 21 22:41:17 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [root@arwen-fedora pablo]# lspci | grep -i atheros 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) [root@arwen-fedora pablo]# modinfo ath9k filename: /lib/modules/3.1.6-1.fc16.x86_64/backports/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko license:Dual BSD/GPL description:Support for Atheros 802.11n wireless LAN cards. author: Atheros Communications srcversion: EC9DA667EF04146FEEC6ED3 alias: pci:v168Cd0034sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0033sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0032sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0030sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd002Esv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd002Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd002Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd002Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd002Asv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0029sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0027sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0024sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v168Cd0023sv*sd*bc*sc*i* depends:ath9k_hw,ath9k_common,mac80211,ath,cfg80211 vermagic: 3.1.6-1.fc16.x86_64 SMP mod_unload parm: debug:Debugging mask (uint) parm: nohwcrypt:Disable hardware encryption (int) parm: blink:Enable LED blink on activity (int) parm: btcoex_enable:Enable wifi-BT coexistence (int) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
On 01/11/2012 11:58 AM, Armelius Cameron wrote: 4b. Shrink Windows partition in 500GB HD to whatever you want it to be on SDD Unless things have changed considerably, gparted doesn't copy partitions from one drive to another. Clonezilla does, but won't shrink it. (It comes on its own Live CD.) My suggestion is to move this step to 0.5 and use Windows to do the shrinking, after a thorough defrag. One way or another, you're going to have to shrink the partition, so you might as well plan on doing it right at the start. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
Thanks for the replies. My head hurts from thinking about this stuff. FYI, my XPS17 has 2 hard drive bays. I want 1 bay for the SSD, on which I will load Windows and Linux. The other bay is for a 750 GB data drive. I hate Windows. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 16 instabilities
Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. - I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for many years and am very happy with it. - The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic process. Instead of the rock-solid behaviour of previous releases, Fedora 16 behaves randomly. - On two laptops with encrypted disks, when booting, one asks for the passphrase once; the other twice. The second request can only be seen if rhgb is removed from the kernel boot line, and you watch the systemd spewage carefully. - The command 'reboot' typed in an X terminal emulator, sometimes works; but often hangs the machine, requiring pressing reset. - Shutdown takes much too long, and often fails completely, like reboot. This is quite annoying, especially with laptops. - The 'df' command has been rendered nearly useless due to the voluminous extraneous output. - The mount command, which was once useful, isn't any more. It's simply unreadable. - The systemd system has replaced the simple and easily understood sysv init system with a jumbled mess. The output during boot is scrambled and the terminology is grossly verbose and confusing. It may be a tiny bit quicker to boot on a multicore machine, but the loss of comprehensibility and reliability is much too high a price. - The systemd alternative to editing /etc/inittab with runlevel = 3 is grotesque. - /var/log/boot.log is empty, sometimes. When it is written, it contains no dates. - If 'startxfce4' is used at a console prompt to start an xfce session, root windows have $DISPLAY undefined, and cannot run privileged programs. Critical tabs in various windows (shutdown, nm-applet editing, etc.) are greyed out. A workaround is to create $HOME/.xinitrc with this cryptic line: ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startxfce4 and then use 'startx', as if starting gnome. :-( - grub2 fails to correctly initialize /boot/grub2/grub.cnf when older kernel objects are present in /boot, and alternate root partitions exist. - grub2 sometimes sets the default kernel to an older one; sometimes to the newest one. - Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. - The latest kernel, 3.1.7-1.fc16.x86_64, causes skype to crash unless it is run with strace, in which case it fails to fail. Go figure! - With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no microphone, sometimes no sound, sometimes no video. The popup that announces an incoming call fails to appear - sometimes. Despite its non-open status, skype is a critical utility. Some way must be found to support it so it is reliable. Making changes to the kernel that destroy it is not acceptable. - Some programs fail at random, unpredictible and unrepeatable times. Qtstalker occasionally simply stops working. It's window can be deleted, but a zombie remains. - Systemd doesn't know how to tell time. During boot, time is off by 4 hours, then is fixed when ntp gets going. Perhaps as a result, sometimes, not always, X starts with a screensaver. It's random! - The cups print system can no longer print full Legal size pages. The print space is shifted upward and truncated. - The /etc/rc.d/rc.local file has been deleted. It can be recreated, but you must know to start it with #!/bin/sh and make it executable. Why not simply retain a properly constructed dummy? - gkrellm -s remotesys often quits without reason. Then, sometimes, it cannot be restarted without rebooting remotesys. More randomness. - When xfce is restarted, the session manager restarts gkrellm windows with the bottom section truncated - sometimes. Another randomness. The full length can be restored by manually running the Configuration popup and changing some item, then changing it back. - The session manager for xfce seems unable to restart roxterm windows, but can handle xterm's fine. Why? - On one laptop the NumLock will sometimes turn itself on. This can be annoying if a password must be typed. - On one machine, the password had be typed quickly in a console. The root password was too hard to type to meet that requirement. However, if it was entered by cut-and-paste, it was OK. In X, there was no problem. - On one machine (of seven) the CD drawer pops open at random times. - An older nvidia NV18 GeForce4 MX 440 card requires the earlier version of the nvidia driver - which is no longer supported. The nouveau driver doesn't work nearly as well. A perfectly functional video card is rendered disfunctional. - Libreoffice insists on making files inaccessible via nfs. A workaround is to edit /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice to comment out these two lines: ## SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 ## export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING but this must be redone whenever a new update co
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 08:19:38 AM linux guy wrote:
> I have a new Dell XPS17.
>
> It came with a 500 GB hard drive loaded with Windows.
>
> I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install
> Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks.
>
> If I install F15 alone on the SSD, can I install Windows later or must
> it be present in the first place ?
>
> How might I install Windows on the SSD ? Is there a way to use dd to do
> this ?
>
> Thanks !
Here's what I would try to do:
0. Create Windows Rescue CD from the currently running Windows.
1. Somehow get a system where you can have both the SSD and the original 500GB
hard drive available. One possibility may be put the SSD on an external case
and plug into the laptop via USB or eSATA. (I'm assuming that XPS17 is a
laptop and thus you don't have a space for 2 internal harddrive).
2. Get a live CD, e.g. Fedora live CD or even other live CD with recent
gparted ("System Rescue CD" comes to mind, not sure if any of Fedora live or
spin CD has gparted, never tried it).
3. Boot the system with both HD connected (original 500GBHD as internal, SDD
as external). Now from gparted you can see both drives.
4. Create a new partition on the SDD that's enough to contain the Windows
installation from the 500GB HD from gparted.
5. Copy the Windows partition from from 500GB HD to SDD. Now this is where I'm
not sure: is it possible to copy partition with different sizes in gparted ? If
not, alternatively do.
4b. Shrink Windows partition in 500GB HD to whatever you want it to be on SDD
5b. Copy partition
6. Now you should have some extra free space on SDD. You can leave it alone.
7. Swap 500GB with SDD. Try to see if you can run Windows. Fix anything
necessary with the Windows rescue disk. If you're lucky enough, everything
should just work.
8. Now you can install your favorite linux distro.
NOTE that the above method as untested, YMMV, you assume all the risk, regular
disclaimers apply, etc, etc.
Alternatively, although you don't have Windows install CD, Dell usually supply
you with "recovery partition" on the original HD. I don't know what's in it
(never cared to look at it, I just usually reformat completely and put
Fedora). but you may want to look at it to see if it's useful.
Hope that at least provides some things to think about.
AC
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Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 15:43 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 15:44:49 PM +0100, Emilio Lopez wrote: > > > Basically, it's like we had unplugged the ethernet cable going to the > router/ADSL modem from the old pc running Ubuntu (which accepted and > handled incoming ssh connection without problems) and then plugged it > into this new box running F16, with sshd configured as in my original. > > I understand what you are saying, but how could have the above changed > router NAT? Maybe it still thinks the other box is the same IP, maybe due to the MAC address and not using the new one? Could check the router and the dhcp reservation/table section and see if it's being recognized? Does it have correct IP or using something different and router not sending to correct one? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 01/11/2012 06:43 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This has been discussed before on the list. Note that you also need to configure NM to manage your interface, otherwise NM will report it as offline even when it's online. My desktop doesn't use NM, and for a very good reason: it nuked my DNS numbers every time I rebooted until I permanently disabled it. I've not had a single issue of that kind since I went back to using network. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 01/11/2012 06:26 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Firefox doesn't know whether it's on purpose or accident ...and doesn't need to. Dropped is dropped. And, if the user's trying to browse, he/she probably isn't aware of what's happened and should be told. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 01/11/2012 05:34 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: The Firefox maintainers have chosen to assume that most users are not going to mess with the innards of networking scripts, and that letting NM manage connections is the most prudent move if you have to make one choice for everyone. There are ways to check if you're online or not that don't depend on a specific service. If nothing else you try to connect and see what happens. This is much more reliable than assuming that everybody does things the same way you do. It's just like the reason I always nuke Update Manager: it's very good at finding updates, then telling me it's offline when I want them installed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On 01/11/2012 12:20 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 13:32 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 07:16:12 AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: How is this box connected to the outside world? Have there been ANY networking changes wrt the internet connection? But internet connectivity was and remains the same: ADSL modem, attached to the PC via Ethernet. Every other service used by my friend works (email, Web, ftp, streaming...) So, do you use dhcp for allocation of the address from the ADSL modem? If so, check the firewall/forwarding rules on the modem for the routing of port 22 You do realize that Ubuntu has the firewall turned off by default and Fedora it is enabled? I realize I'm jumping in the middle here but always check the stupid stuff first. -- Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint and Slackware user Linux counter #386175 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 13:32 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 07:16:12 AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > > > How is this box connected to the outside world? Have there been ANY > > networking changes wrt the internet connection? > But internet connectivity was and remains the same: ADSL modem, > attached to the PC via Ethernet. Every other service used by my friend > works (email, Web, ftp, streaming...) > So, do you use dhcp for allocation of the address from the ADSL modem? If so, check the firewall/forwarding rules on the modem for the routing of port 22 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
> I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install > Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks. Probably, you could create a rescue cd kit from your old hard drive, you should have a menu item in start menu labeled "Rescue CDs" or something like that. After creating them, you can use them to do a clean "install" windows in the empty new HDD. After that, you can install Fedora. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 08:19:38 linux guy wrote: > I have a new Dell XPS17. > It came with a 500 GB hard drive loaded with Windows. > > I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install > Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks. I guess the simplest option would be to leave Windows on the big HD, and just install Fedora on the SSD. Configure the bios to boot from SSD, and configure grub to chainload Windows from the HD for multibooting. Do you have a reason to have both Windows and Fedora on the SSD? Do you want to remove the old HD? > If I install F15 alone on the SSD, can I install Windows later or must > it be present in the first place ? Last time I installed Windows (the XP version), it didn't play nice with other OS's on the disk. The usual rule-of-thumb is to install Windows first, Fedora second. That way you don't get to deal with pleasures of Windows not being on the C: partition, reinstalling grub in the MBR, rescuing Fedora installation, etc... IOW, install Windows first. > How might I install Windows on the SSD ? Is there a way to use dd to do > this ? Possibly, but I'm not sure you'll get a working Windows system out of that. Windows tends to remember the hardware it's installed on, and refuse to work if it detects changes in hardware. It's the anti-piracy system, trying to prevent illegal copying. I don't know if it checks for the hard drive serial number, though. If it does, it will probably ask you to revalidate your copy by calling a relevant Microsoft support office, make sure that you have deleted the old copy from the old HD, etc. I don't know the details. You should better ask this on some Windows-related forum. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 10:42 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:19:38 -0700 > linux guy wrote: > > > I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install > > Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks. > > I have had great success running gparted to shrink windows > partitions and make space for linux from a live CD. Haven't > done it with an SSD, but not sure there is any reason it > would be different. Ditto, sounds like you want to remove the original SSD and save it someplace. So first step would be to clone it to the SSD that you want to dual boot. Then repartition to make room for Linux. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:19:38 -0700 linux guy wrote: > I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install > Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks. I have had great success running gparted to shrink windows partitions and make space for linux from a live CD. Haven't done it with an SSD, but not sure there is any reason it would be different. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?
I have a new Dell XPS17. It came with a 500 GB hard drive loaded with Windows. I want to install a 160 GB SSD in my XPS17. I also want to install Fedora 15. I don't have any Windows disks. If I install F15 alone on the SSD, can I install Windows later or must it be present in the first place ? How might I install Windows on the SSD ? Is there a way to use dd to do this ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17
I didn't test installing grub2 because in addition to the boot problem there was also a kernel problem with the F16 install. I got my XPS17 running Linux by doing an install from the F15-KDE-64-Live iso. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
Well, the old pc can have a dhcp static assigned ip based on his mac. I should try also, ssh-ing from another LAN pc, as the old ubuntu box Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 15:44:49 PM +0100, Emilio Lopez wrote: > > telnet his.ip.address 22 times out > > Also check router NAT. 99% times this is the problem. but noting changed in the router, see previous message. Basically, it's like we had unplugged the ethernet cable going to the router/ADSL modem from the old pc running Ubuntu (which accepted and handled incoming ssh connection without problems) and then plugged it into this new box running F16, with sshd configured as in my original. I understand what you are saying, but how could have the above changed router NAT? Marco -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
> telnet his.ip.address 22 times out Also check router NAT. 99% times this is the problem. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On 11/01/12 2:32 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/10/2012 07:06 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> Browse to"about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to >> "false". >> >> IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of >> NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline >> status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that >> option prevents Firefox from doing this. > > Thank you; I'd even tried asking the Mozilla site and didn't find this. This has been discussed before on the list. Note that you also need to configure NM to manage your interface, otherwise NM will report it as offline even when it's online. It affects some programs, probably those that depend on Gnome, but not others. I know it affects Evolution for example. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 01:48:47PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > >> > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to > >> > "false". > >> > > >> > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of > >> > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline > >> > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that > >> > option prevents Firefox from doing this. > >> > >> Thanks v. much for that. > >> > >> But why does Firefox do this? > >> It shows a surprising lack of common sense. > >> > >> I put it on a par with NetworkManager's habit of editing /etc/resolv.conf > >> and removing the nameservers mentioned there if it cannot see them. > > > > Probably because NetworkManager has capabilities for setting static > > wired connections, and for setting hands-off on DNS entries. The > > Firefox maintainers have chosen to assume that most users are not > > going to mess with the innards of networking scripts, and that letting > > NM manage connections is the most prudent move if you have to make one > > choice for everyone. People who like to mess with innards will > > undoubtedly figure out how to change configurations. The number of > > users who would be baffled by delays in browsing when their connection > > drops likely far outnumbers those who would be stymied by Offline Mode > > in this case. > > Why not just tell the user the connection has dropped, > if that is the situation? Your OS does that already. I just dropped my wired connection a few moments ago to test this was correct. Firefox doesn't know whether it's on purpose or accident, so I imagine the developers didn't want to make an incorrect assumption. After all, you can still browse against your cache if needed, which is quite useful in a number of cases. > You seem to be saying that the user is supposed to deduce this > from the fact that Firefox has changed to Offline mode. > That seems crazy to me. > Even IE has more sense than that. Not what I'm suggesting. Just saying your OS already tells you your connection has dropped, and Firefox is capable of reacting to that. But this is a Firefox design question, it sounds like. I'm not a Firefox developer so I can't speak for them. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to >> > "false". >> > >> > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of >> > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline >> > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that >> > option prevents Firefox from doing this. >> >> Thanks v. much for that. >> >> But why does Firefox do this? >> It shows a surprising lack of common sense. >> >> I put it on a par with NetworkManager's habit of editing /etc/resolv.conf >> and removing the nameservers mentioned there if it cannot see them. > > Probably because NetworkManager has capabilities for setting static > wired connections, and for setting hands-off on DNS entries. The > Firefox maintainers have chosen to assume that most users are not > going to mess with the innards of networking scripts, and that letting > NM manage connections is the most prudent move if you have to make one > choice for everyone. People who like to mess with innards will > undoubtedly figure out how to change configurations. The number of > users who would be baffled by delays in browsing when their connection > drops likely far outnumbers those who would be stymied by Offline Mode > in this case. Why not just tell the user the connection has dropped, if that is the situation? You seem to be saying that the user is supposed to deduce this from the fact that Firefox has changed to Offline mode. That seems crazy to me. Even IE has more sense than that. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:36:56PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > >> Make sure it's not set to work in Offline Mode. My copy keeps resetting > >> that every time it restarts and so far I haven't gotten it to stop. > > > > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to > > "false". > > > > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of > > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline > > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that > > option prevents Firefox from doing this. > > Thanks v. much for that. > > But why does Firefox do this? > It shows a surprising lack of common sense. > > I put it on a par with NetworkManager's habit of editing /etc/resolv.conf > and removing the nameservers mentioned there if it cannot see them. Probably because NetworkManager has capabilities for setting static wired connections, and for setting hands-off on DNS entries. The Firefox maintainers have chosen to assume that most users are not going to mess with the innards of networking scripts, and that letting NM manage connections is the most prudent move if you have to make one choice for everyone. People who like to mess with innards will undoubtedly figure out how to change configurations. The number of users who would be baffled by delays in browsing when their connection drops likely far outnumbers those who would be stymied by Offline Mode in this case. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 20:32 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote: > As my current installation is EOL, > there are things I would like to know before trying to install F16. > For me, installation has always been a struggle. > I approach new requirements with increased fear and trepidation. > I don't do upgrades. > It seems to me that an upgrade must be more complicated than > a straight install and I have enough trouble with that. > > F16 seems to want GPT for disk partitioning. > What I have now works just fine. > Is GPT mandatory? > Assuming it is, under what conditions will a new partition be required? > My preference is not to mess with existing partitions. > I'm hoping GPT will not force me to. > Would changing to GPT pretty much guarantee stomping on my first partition? > > The new lower limit of 1000 for normal user and group IDs is another issue. > The current user has IDs 500 and has rather > a lot of files that I want to keep. > Fedora's documentation says to use a kickstart file to keep 500. > Alas, my floppy drive no longer works. > Even if it did, I would not expect my first > hand-made kickstart file to work. > Is there a way to change the configuration > file before adding the first user? > Is there a reason that anaconda does not simply ask for the limits? > > If I am feeling brave, I might try to install from hard disk. > Apparently, one can boot from a minimal CD > and point anaconda at an iso image. > Is this correct? > anaconda apparently only wants the name of the directory. > Does that mean that the DVD's iso image should > be the only file in the directory? > I see occasional references to images. > What are they for and how do they not mess up the finding of the DVD image? > > > Note that one reason for my frequent frustation > is that I have only one computer. > I cannot query the internet while running anaconda. > It seems to me that absent conflicts, there is no particular > reason one could not perform an installation from a running setup. The reference to GPT means that you have a computer that uses the new EFI system that replaces BIOS as the booting system. If you want detailed info on what that means to you look in the December 2011 and January 2012 issue of Linux Journal. I could send them to you as pdf files but they are each 8mb in size so tell me if you can process files that big through e-mail. I might put them on my web server but that will take until Thursday, On the other hand my making them available is probably copyright infringement, so I my have to think about that some more. -- === Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love" === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 07:16:12 AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > How is this box connected to the outside world? Have there been ANY > networking changes wrt the internet connection? none whatsoever. The only hardware thing that is changed (sorry for forgetting this in the first message, but I'm almost sure is irrelevant) is the computer itself. Ubuntu, on which sshd worked fine, was running on a very old computer. When he got a new computer, I went there last Monday , installed F16, we carried the old PC to the dumpster (nothing was worth recovering, power supply and other parts were almost falling apart...), went back home and found the sshd problem. But internet connectivity was and remains the same: ADSL modem, attached to the PC via Ethernet. Every other service used by my friend works (email, Web, ftp, streaming...) telnet his.ip.address 22 times out Tomorrow I'll be back at his place and try the other tests suggested, those to be run on his machine. Thanks, Marco -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no internet connection with Fedora16
T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> Make sure it's not set to work in Offline Mode. My copy keeps resetting >> that every time it restarts and so far I haven't gotten it to stop. > > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to > "false". > > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that > option prevents Firefox from doing this. Thanks v. much for that. But why does Firefox do this? It shows a surprising lack of common sense. I put it on a par with NetworkManager's habit of editing /etc/resolv.conf and removing the nameservers mentioned there if it cannot see them. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
On 11/01/12 02:32, Michael Hennebry wrote: As my current installation is EOL, there are things I would like to know before trying to install F16. If you are uncertain. Dowload and run a LiveCD of whatever flavour DE you like. This may let you know in advance of and hardware issues. Backup your personal files, plus any modified configs you want to keep. If you are happy with the LiveCD, you can install from it. And just d\l and other apps you may require. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
Michael Hennebry wrote: > As my current installation is EOL, > there are things I would like to know before trying to install F16. > For me, installation has always been a struggle. > I approach new requirements with increased fear and trepidation. > I don't do upgrades. > It seems to me that an upgrade must be more complicated than > a straight install and I have enough trouble with that. I agree. In particular, following the preupgrade method is a recipe for disaster. But I think there is a third course, which is to install the new system on a different partition, keeping the old one as it is. In my experience there is a non-negligible probability, probably around 25%, that the new installation will not work, perhaps for some reason concerned with one's particular hardware. It makes life much easier if you have a working system to fall back on. There are some minor problems in this, in particular the new user UIDs (starting at 1000) in Fedora-16. But this is not too difficult to deal with, in various ways. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
Quoting "M. Fioretti" : Greetings, I have just installed F16 on a friend's box. Now I want to enable sshd in order to log in from home and do system administration, updates, etc... for him. Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. I have already enabled sshd, iptables (see below), and used the firewall config tool to enable allow ssh incoming connections, but every attempt times out. Surely I'm missing something obvious, but what? Thanks in advance for any pointer, Marco ### [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status ip6tables.service ip6tables.service - IPv6 firewall with ip6tables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ip6tables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 776 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/ip6tables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/ip6tables.service [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Main PID: 906 (sshd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service └ 906 /usr/sbin/sshd -D [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status iptables.service iptables.service - IPv4 firewall with iptables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/iptables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 774 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/iptables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/iptables.service [root@segretario ~]# How is this box connected to the outside world? Have there been ANY networking changes wrt the internet connection? I agree with the other person who suggested verifying that the SSH port is accessible via the outside world. Also, you might want to try a "special" (ie >1024, I think it is) port in case your friend's internet provider is blocking those port numbers. Some internet providers will block all "normal" ports inbound so that you can't run a "server" from a home connection. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > This section of the installation guide explains how to install from an > ISO image on your hard drive in detail: > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/s1- installationmethod-x86.html > > Note that you don't even need a minimal installation CD, though it's a > bit more work: > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/ap- medialess-install.html I find the Installation Guide rather confusing. Eg your second citation appears in Chapter 12, "Installing Without Media", but for some reason these methods are not mentioned in your first citation, "Installation Method", which appears in Chapter 8. I think it would be much better if the Guide simply listed possible methods 1,2,3,... and explained in each case exactly what one has to do. In my experience, it is more or less impossible to install by PXEboot by following the instructions in the Guide, as the different part of the procedure are scattered at random over several different chapters. There is a big difference between a User Guide and a Reference Manual. Unfortunately the authors of the Installation Guide seem to confuse the two. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
ssh -v dest.address suomi On 2012-01-11 11:02, Emilio Lopez wrote: Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. 1. Try in your friend computer ssh localhost to see if the ssh server is running properly 2.Try telnet x.x.x.x 22 where x.x.x.x is your's friend ip, from your computer to check if the port is open. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [SOLVED ] failure to display twitter on F16
On 01/10/2012 02:59 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 01/09/2012 05:58 PM, Paolo De Michele wrote: > > > > On 01/09/2012 09:26 AM, Paolo De Michele wrote: > >> hi list, > >> > >> I have a problem with Fedora 16 in view of twitter site with > >> browsers google chrome and chromium. with firefox there is no > >> problem. I leave a link to view a video the error I get: > >> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/chromeya.png > >> > >> I hope some useful data: > >> > >> Linux homelinux-3.1.6 1. fc16. i686 SMP Wed Dec 1 21 UTC 23:18:01 > >> 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNULinux the version of chrome is > >> 16.0.912.63 the version of chromium is 15.0.874.106 (Developer > >> Build 0 Linux) Built from source for Fedora release 16 (Verne) > >> > >> does anyone know give me a hand? Thanks in advance > > > hi list, > > > what you've reported is a known bug. I solved it by setting the > > selinux to setenforce to 0 ( /usr/sbin/setenforce 0 ) further I > > found the material at this address: http: > > forums.fedoraforum.orgshowthread.php? t262432page2 > > > regards > > > > The solution there was to fix your labels in your homedir. > > restorecon -R -v /home > > Not put the machine into permissive mode. hi Daniel, thank you for your reply i've solved the problem regards -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
>Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh >without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. 1. Try in your friend computer ssh localhost to see if the ssh server is running properly 2.Try telnet x.x.x.x 22 where x.x.x.x is your's friend ip, from your computer to check if the port is open. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
At first you have to know that ssh port is up and running(netstat -nat | egrep "0:0:0:0:22|*:22") and reachable from outside- check it with http://www.nmap-online.com f.e. Flush all iptables rules(save with iptables-save, before flushing) if needed 2012/1/11 M. Fioretti : > Greetings, > > I have just installed F16 on a friend's box. Now I want to enable sshd in > order to log in from home and do system administration, updates, etc... > for him. > > Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh > without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. > > I have already enabled sshd, iptables (see below), and used the firewall > config tool to enable allow ssh incoming connections, but every attempt > times out. > > Surely I'm missing something obvious, but what? Thanks in advance for any > pointer, > Marco > > ### > > [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status ip6tables.service > ip6tables.service - IPv6 firewall with ip6tables > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ip6tables.service; enabled) > Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; > 13min ago > Process: 776 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/ip6tables.init start > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > CGroup: name=systemd:/system/ip6tables.service > [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status sshd.service > sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled) > Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; > 13min ago > Main PID: 906 (sshd) > CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service > └ 906 /usr/sbin/sshd -D > [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status iptables.service > iptables.service - IPv4 firewall with iptables > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/iptables.service; enabled) > Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; > 13min ago > Process: 774 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/iptables.init start > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > CGroup: name=systemd:/system/iptables.service > [root@segretario ~]# > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
cannot reach F16 box via ssh
Greetings, I have just installed F16 on a friend's box. Now I want to enable sshd in order to log in from home and do system administration, updates, etc... for him. Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. I have already enabled sshd, iptables (see below), and used the firewall config tool to enable allow ssh incoming connections, but every attempt times out. Surely I'm missing something obvious, but what? Thanks in advance for any pointer, Marco ### [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status ip6tables.service ip6tables.service - IPv6 firewall with ip6tables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ip6tables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 776 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/ip6tables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/ip6tables.service [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Main PID: 906 (sshd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service └ 906 /usr/sbin/sshd -D [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status iptables.service iptables.service - IPv4 firewall with iptables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/iptables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 774 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/iptables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/iptables.service [root@segretario ~]# -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Just some appreciation
On 11/01/12 03:06, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> Make sure it's not set to work in Offline Mode. My copy keeps resetting >> that every time it restarts and so far I haven't gotten it to stop. > > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to "false". > > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that > option prevents Firefox from doing this. > > -T.C. Noticed this useful little nugget of information, so I'd just like to thank T.C and their like for helping folks with their Fedora problems. Still not updated from F14, (had problems with Advansys SCSI card on F15), but will be trying the F16 KDE spin. F16 KDE spin certainly appears to work fine on my laptop, even with hybrid SLi enabled!! cpp4ever -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where can I find F15 KDE Live iso for downloading ?
F15 installed without any problems. I'm running yum update right now. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where can I find F15 KDE Live iso for downloading ?
Many thanks for the quick reply. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
