Re: Device Notifier show NFS shares

2012-01-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/20/2012 02:11 PM, Emmett Culley wrote:
> Since upgrading to Fedora 16 I notice that the device notifier always has my 
> nfs shares listed.  I've insured that "removable device only" is checked, but 
> it still shows the nfs shares.
>
> I see that happening in my wife's machine as well since I upgraded her a 
> couple of days ago.
>
> Anyone else seeing this.

Yes  And a bugzilla has been written for itjust don't have the #
at hand.

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Device Notifier show NFS shares

2012-01-19 Thread Emmett Culley
Since upgrading to Fedora 16 I notice that the device notifier always has my 
nfs shares listed.  I've insured that "removable device only" is checked, but 
it still shows the nfs shares.

I see that happening in my wife's machine as well since I upgraded her a couple 
of days ago.

Anyone else seeing this.

Emmett
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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
I didn't install Chrome, but thanks to the suggestions here, mainly
the screen resolution, my desktop is now beautiful.  Almost stunning,
actually.

Things I did
- disable the laptop display, which for some reason set the resolution
to 128x129.   With just the U3011, I get a resolution of 75x75.
- enabled anti aliasing
- installed a 2560x1600 desktop wallpaper image
- selected the Oxygen theme

I have 2 issues yet.

1) When I go back to operating with just the laptop, ie no u3011, the
fonts are huge.  For some reason the resolution gets set to 128x129.
Not sure why.

2) The fonts in gmail in Firefox and only gmail are ugly.  Every other
page looks quite nice.

Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Clicking on an email link in Chrome

2012-01-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 12:49 -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
> Every time I click on an email link in Google Chrome it brings up  
> Firefox and that brings up Evolution. My default email client is  
> KMail. I looked in the "help" section for Chrome and there is nothing  
> in Chrome on the "default application handlers" on my system. KMail is  
> set as the default email client in "systemsettings." Any ideas short  
> of uninstalling Firefox and Evolution? That seems rather drastic.
> Thanks!

I presume you're using KDE (you don't say). Chrome is a Gnome app, so it
will check the Gnome settings, not the KDE ones. You can use the
gnome-control-center app from the Shell to set up the defaults.

poc

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Re: perl-math-gsl

2012-01-19 Thread Edward Martinez

On 01/18/12 15:08, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

After I upgrade to fc16, perl-Math-gsl gives me an error at test:

#   Failed test 'GSL_CHEB_CALC_DERIV died (Bizarre copy of UNKNOWN in 
subroutine entry at t/Chebyshev.t line 59.)'

#   at t/Chebyshev.t line 72.
#   (in Math::GSL::Chebyshev::Test->GSL_CHEB_CALC_DERIV)

#   Failed test 'GSL_CHEB_CALC_INTEGRAL died (Bizarre copy of UNKNOWN 
in subroutine entry at t/Chebyshev.t line 68.)'

#   at t/Chebyshev.t line 72.
#   (in Math::GSL::Chebyshev::Test->GSL_CHEB_CALC_INTEGRAL)

...

Files=52, Tests=4024, 18 wallclock secs ( 1.14 usr  0.11 sys + 12.50 
cusr 0.96 csys = 14.71 CPU)

Result: FAIL
Failed 7/52 test programs. 23/4024 subtests failed.
  LETO/Math-GSL-0.26.tar.gz
  ./Build test -- NOT OK
//hint// to see the cpan-testers results for installing this module, try:
  reports LETO/Math-GSL-0.26.tar.gz
Failed during this command:
 LETO/Math-GSL-0.26.tar.gz: make_test NO

I tried to deactivate selinux, but it does help.

Thank.




   Did you try updating to the latest packages  of  gsl and gsl-devel?
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 13:23 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/19/2012 12:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > if you are upgrading a machine and not take a look
> > wwhat services are running / enabled it's time for
> > you to learn doing things right
> 
> I've upgraded Fedora several times and never, until now, have I had the 
> slightest difficulty with services being disabled.  And, IMAO, checking 
> to make sure you have the same services running after an upgrade as you 
> did before is simply common prudence if the upgrade includes a 
> completely new booting system.

yeah but in your previous upgrades of Fedora, none of them involved a
significant transition from SysV initscripts to something else (in this
case systemd).

Harald has a point... a one-shot upgrade doesn't necessarily justify the
developers time to migrate each/every setting from sysv to systemd but
this is a participatory OS and if you feel it is lacking, feel free to
offer your time and energy to script the migration or otherwise
recognize that you are just whining which apparently doesn't even give
you catharsis.

Craig


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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/19/2012 05:02 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
> 
...


> I hope this isn't considered thread hijacking, but can anyone offer a
> DE-agnostic method of disabling/managing suspend? I have been
> experimenting with a wyse client, and while its much easier to boot from
> USB or LAN than hack the locked onboard storage, it doesn't handle
> suspend well.  Ill start a new thread if needed, but it seems in scope.
> 
> 
> 


  You could try edit the polkit file:

/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy

  And find suspend/hibernate section and change active=yes to no.

  I have not tried this and it may get replaced by a  polkit update - I
am not sure if there is an alternative local override (like
/etc/polkit/actions/foo.upower.policy or something ... polkit experts?

  gene/

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Mic Plugged into sound card not working

2012-01-19 Thread Mark LaPierre

Hey guys,

I have a mic plugged into my sound card.  It worked late last night but
not today.  When I try to select the mic using System/Preferences/Sound
I'm provided with several options to choose from.

On the Hardware tab I choose the Internal Audio device and set it to
Analog Stereo Duplex.

On the Input tab I choose Internal Audio Analog Stereo there are two
Analog Microphone Inputs, 1 and 2, to choose from.  Each of those inputs
has Microphone 1 and 2 to choose from.

When I try to record from the mic in Audacity I get a flat signal if I
choose Input 1 no matter which Microphone, 1 or 2, I choose.

If I choose Input 2, no matter which Microphone I choose, the wave form
freezes until I return the selection to Input 1.

alsamixer -c0 does not indicate any input settings being muted.  In fact
its indications change in response to changes in Sound Preferences and
Sound Preferences indications change in response to changes in alsamixer
-c0.

CentOS 6.2

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21

/proc/asound/cards
0 [V8237  ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
   VIA 8237 with ALC655 at 0xd400, irq 22

/proc/asound/devices
2:: timer
3:: sequencer
4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
5: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
7: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
8: [ 0]   : control
9: [ 1- 0]: digital audio capture
   10: [ 1]   : control
   11: [ 2- 0]: digital audio playback
   12: [ 2- 0]: digital audio capture
   13: [ 2]   : control

/proc/asound/pcm
00-00: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 4 : capture 1
00-01: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 1 : capture 1
01-00: USB Audio : USB Audio : capture 1
02-00: USB Audio : USB Audio : playback 1 : capture 1

I tested the mic by plugging it into my wife's XP machine.  The mic
works fine but the XP machine doesn't.

Very frustrated.  Anyone have any idea what else I can check?


Alright, I guess I asked the wrong question.  Is there a way to probe
the sound card so that I can figure out where in the software chain the
problem is?  I suspect an issue with some library file somewhere but I
don't know how to tell what library I hosed up.

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Re: Xorg security (big) issue

2012-01-19 Thread Santavy Peter
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 00:56 +0200, kalinix wrote:
> Just found an article about bypassing any screen locker on latest X Org
> server.
> 
> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/200
> 
> F15 has 1.10.4-1 but from what I see, F16 has 1.11.1-1 (with latest
> update 11.11.3-1)
> 
> Can anyone confirm whether the issue is present on F16?

After upgrading to xkeyboard-config-2.3-3.fc16 it isn't.
( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2012-0064 )

Before upgrading to xkeyboard-config-2.3-3.fc16 it is.
(Possible workaround: check the System Settings -> Region and language
-> Layouts -> Options... -> Miscellaneous compatibility options:
"Special keys (Ctrl+Alt+) handled in a server" on.)


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Re: How to install F16 KDE 64 bit on an XPS 17.

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
I just upgraded a server from F16-KDE 32 bit to F16-KDE 64 bit.  Its
an i5 Sandybridge, just like my laptop.

I had the same problems as with my laptop.  I installed 64 bit F16-KDE
right from the DVD over the F16 32 bit installation that was on it
previously.  It installed fine, but wouldn't complete the reboot after
inputting a user, etc.  I tried several different ways to get around
it, to no avail.

Finally, I installed 64 bit F15-KDE from the live ISO.   Then I did a
full yum update on it.   Then I did an upgrade to it, including
selecting to update the boot table using the SAME 64 bit F16 DVD that
didn't work previously.

It (64 bit F16-KDE) then booted up fine.  I'm running yum update on it
as we speak.

There has to be a bug somewhere in the 64 bit F16-KDE live and 64 bit
F16 KDE DVD disks that they don't boot on 2 different machines.

I hope this helps someone.
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Re: Xorg security (big) issue

2012-01-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 00:56 +0200, kalinix wrote:
> Just found an article about bypassing any screen locker on latest X Org
> server.
> 
> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/200
> 
> F15 has 1.10.4-1 but from what I see, F16 has 1.11.1-1 (with latest
> update 11.11.3-1)
> 
> Can anyone confirm whether the issue is present on F16?


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2012-0064


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Xorg security (big) issue

2012-01-19 Thread kalinix
Just found an article about bypassing any screen locker on latest X Org
server.

http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/200

F15 has 1.10.4-1 but from what I see, F16 has 1.11.1-1 (with latest
update 11.11.3-1)

Can anyone confirm whether the issue is present on F16?


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Re: [ why i do not like base64]

2012-01-19 Thread g

On 01/19/2012 12:56 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 03:52 +, g wrote:
>> NISM ??
>
> I have no idea what that abbreviation refers to,
-=-

NISM = "Need I Say More"


> but the (obvious) spam (simply by looking at the list of recipients)
-=-

this is true. because it was sent to a 'tsl' also.


viewing "source", "header" can be read, but not able to read "body"
because of 'base64'.


to view "body", opened as 'email'. saw link. thought. what the heck.
possible a subscriber messed up. wondered what. clicked link.

using firefox and NoScript, running firewall, rkhunter,
backed up. why not.

firefox displayed a "404". i broke link.


> you replied to was not received as base64 encoded, here.
-=-

that is because it has enigmail sig. note "source" of this post.


> Nor should it really be a problem.  Only the most ancient or
> dysfunctional mail clients would not be able to handle base64 encoded
> messages.
-=-

what email client in 'view source' mode, show "body" as readable
ascii when email is 'base64'.


>  And, I dare say, the same derision should be applicable to
> anything else that *handles* mail for you.
-=-

deride depends on answer to above question. ;)

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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 19, 2012 1:11 PM, "Genes MailLists"  wrote:
>
> On 01/19/2012 03:03 PM, linux guy wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Fulko Hew  wrote:
> >
> >> I won't go so far as say 'over-heat', but _my_ laptop does get 'a lot
> >> warmer' with its lid shut.
> >> Its due to the fact that its backlight rarely gets turned off when the
lid
> >> is closed.
> >> (The difference between one radiating surface versus two.)
> >
> > I am turning the laptop display off entirely with nvidia-settings when
> > I use it in "desktop", ie lid closed, mode.
>
>  Good idea - linux guy - instead of 'do nothing' in kde power applet -
> choose - 'turn off screen' on lid close event.
>
>  gene/
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I hope this isn't considered thread hijacking, but can anyone offer a
DE-agnostic method of disabling/managing suspend? I have been experimenting
with a wyse client, and while its much easier to boot from USB or LAN than
hack the locked onboard storage, it doesn't handle suspend well.  Ill start
a new thread if needed, but it seems in scope.
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Re: F16 - virtualbox problem after update

2012-01-19 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Hi Steven Stern,

Ref:
Native system:
=> Fedora 3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64

Installed VirtualBox:
=> VirtualBox-OSE.x86_64 4.1.8-1.fc16.1
=> kmod-VirtualBox-OSE-3.1.7-1.fc16.x86_64.x86_64

Virtual machine:
=> WinVista64

Em 17-01-2012 18:00, Steven Stern escreveu:
> sudo /sbin/service vboxdrv setup
The same thing is happening, except that the virtual machine is a
WinVista, but unfortunately this solution did not work for me.

[Lucelio@MAQ01 ~]$ sudo /sbin/service vboxdrv setup
[sudo] password for Lucelio:
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl  setup vboxdrv.service
Unknown operation setup

Any other hand?

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Re: ddos defence?

2012-01-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 1/18/2012 12:39 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:

jdow suggested:

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --syn --dport 22 -m recent --name
sshattack --set
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 --syn -m recent --name sshattack \
   --rcheck --seconds 60 --hitcount 2 -j LOG --log-prefix 'SSH REJECT: ' \
   --log-level info
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 --syn -m recent --name sshattack \
   --rcheck --seconds 60 --hitcount 2 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset

Paul Allen Newell asked:

How does one add a rule to this that allows LAN attempts to not be
subject to this rule? Often when I need to sync things up, I ssh to
all machines in the LAN and can do more than one within 60 seconds.
Normal traffic is expected to be near nil, but the blast of everyone
ssh's to everyone does happen.

I’d imagine adding --src ! 192.168.0.0/24 after --dport 22 would do this
(replace 192.168.0.0 with whatever’s appropriate for your LAN).

Alternatively, you could set up a .ssh/config file (on the client) with
ControlMaster and ControlPath (and possibly ControlPersist) set. This
allows you to have multiple sessions multiplexed over the one SSH
connection: later connections “piggyback” on the first and won’t fire
these rules (because they won’t be new TCP/IP connections, so no SYN
gets sent).

As a bonus, later sessions don’t have to do the same security
handshakes, so they become ready much more quickly, which is noticeable
on an Atom.

man ssh_config for details, or for an example:

Host rawhide
HostName rawhide.example.com
User james
ControlMaster auto
ControlPath ~/.ssh/master-%r@%h:%p
ControlPersist 60
ForwardX11 yes
ForwardX11Trusted yes
Protocol 2

Hope this helps,

James.


James:

Sorry for the delay in getting back.

The iptable info helps, I need to read up on ssh_config / ControlMaster 
/ ControlPath to understand what your suggestion does


Thanks,
Paul
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread jdow

On 2012/01/19 07:34, Terry Polzin wrote:

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote:

systemctl status spamd.service



[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
ntpd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
spamd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)

So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
include it?

[root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp

ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
@fedora
spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
@fedora


There never has been a spamd service. Use spamassassin instead. THEN
if spamassassin.service doesn't work, bellyache about taking a system
that worked to make a more baroque bloated system that doesn't work.

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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/19/2012 12:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

if you are upgrading a machine and not take a look
wwhat services are running / enabled it's time for
you to learn doing things right


I've upgraded Fedora several times and never, until now, have I had the 
slightest difficulty with services being disabled.  And, IMAO, checking 
to make sure you have the same services running after an upgrade as you 
did before is simply common prudence if the upgrade includes a 
completely new booting system.

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Re: LVM boot issue?

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/19/2012 10:51 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:

I have booted from a F16 live CD and can see the data on the drive but
can not seem to get enough access to copy off the data or get around the
check or get the check to correct the error.


Have you tried running fsck on the partition from the LiveCD?  If so, 
what does it report?

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Re: Old command "sar"?

2012-01-19 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Andre Robatino,

Ok, I got it. Thank you for your answer.

Bye.

Em 18-01-2012 14:53, Andre Robatino escreveu:
> Lucélio Gomes de Freitas  gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Is there a command "System Analisys Report"(sar) in Fedora16-x86_64?
> It's in the sysstat package (found by digging through the output of "yum 
> search
> sar").
>
> sysstat.x86_64 : The sar and iostat system monitoring commands
>
>
>

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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 19.01.2012 21:20, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 01/19/2012 08:12 AM, Terry Polzin wrote:
>> OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.
> 
> So is turning off rsyslog, but "upgrading" to F16 is known to do that, 
> sometimes.  And, when I reported it as a
> bug, the response from the devs was equivalent to "We don't care."  One would 
> think that the logical thing to do
> would be to start off by getting a list of all services installed along with 
> their boot status and making sure that
> things end up with the same services enabled (or disabled) as before.  I'm 
> sure the devs had a reason for not doing
> this, but I find it hard to believe that if I knew what it was I'd agree.

a really simple reason:

the transition to systemd is a ONE TIME shot
how many work will you do on this ONE step?

if you are upgrading a machine and not take a look
wwhat services are running / enabled it's time for
you to learn doing things right



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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/19/2012 08:12 AM, Terry Polzin wrote:

OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.


So is turning off rsyslog, but "upgrading" to F16 is known to do that, 
sometimes.  And, when I reported it as a bug, the response from the devs 
was equivalent to "We don't care."  One would think that the logical 
thing to do would be to start off by getting a list of all services 
installed along with their boot status and making sure that things end 
up with the same services enabled (or disabled) as before.  I'm sure the 
devs had a reason for not doing this, but I find it hard to believe that 
if I knew what it was I'd agree.

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Re: RPM creation

2012-01-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:50:02 -0600, SB( (Stephen) wrote:

> I'm attempting to create an rpm that will install some locally generated 
> and maintained scripts, configs, etc.  All the tutorials I've found so 
> far seem to key in on having a source package tarball and compiling code 
> and all that entails.  I just need to package some simple scripts and 
> whatnot so installing and updating them on the systems I maintain will 
> be a little bit easier.
> 
> Does anyone know of a tutorial on creating a simple rpm package that 
> basically just copies a few files into specified locations?

The %setup macro is documented. Use it with options -T -c so it doesn't
try to extract Source0 as a tarball. Access your individual script files
via the 'SourceX:' tags and the %{SOURCEx} macros for those tags.
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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/19/2012 03:03 PM, linux guy wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Fulko Hew  wrote:
> 
>> I won't go so far as say 'over-heat', but _my_ laptop does get 'a lot
>> warmer' with its lid shut.
>> Its due to the fact that its backlight rarely gets turned off when the lid
>> is closed.
>> (The difference between one radiating surface versus two.)
> 
> I am turning the laptop display off entirely with nvidia-settings when
> I use it in "desktop", ie lid closed, mode.

 Good idea - linux guy - instead of 'do nothing' in kde power applet -
choose - 'turn off screen' on lid close event.

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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Fulko Hew  wrote:

> I won't go so far as say 'over-heat', but _my_ laptop does get 'a lot
> warmer' with its lid shut.
> Its due to the fact that its backlight rarely gets turned off when the lid
> is closed.
> (The difference between one radiating surface versus two.)

I am turning the laptop display off entirely with nvidia-settings when
I use it in "desktop", ie lid closed, mode.
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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Fulko Hew
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Quoting Reindl Harald :
>
>> Am 19.01.2012 19:05, schrieb linux guy:
>>
>>> I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
>>> external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
>>> only want to use it as a processing unit.
>>>
>>
>> you do not really want this because the machine will OVERHEAT!
>>
>>  How do you figure that? I'm typing this at my desk at work on a laptop
> with the lid closed. Granted it's on a docking station that raises the rear
> a couple inches (I guess for extra air-flow) but it still illustrates the
> fallacy of your argument.
>

I won't go so far as say 'over-heat', but _my_ laptop does get 'a lot
warmer' with its lid shut.
Its due to the fact that its backlight rarely gets turned off when the lid
is closed.
(The difference between one radiating surface versus two.)
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fan control in F16 (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
I've got an XPS17.  (i7, 16 GB, nVidia 555, etc.)

I'm running F16.  It works well.

My XPS17 will sit perfectly quiet for a minute or more while I'm
working.  But then the fan will cut in for 10-15 seconds and its
pretty loud.  I find it annoying.

What I would rather have is the fan running at a low level all the time.

What is the easiest way to set this up in F16/KDE ?

Thanks

PS; it seems like a silly question AND if you google there is lots of
talk about fancontrol, etc.  However, I was about to embark on a bunch
of ACPI scripts prior to asking the list about how to disable the lid
switch and then decided to ask the list.   Lo and behold, it could be
done in KDE without any scripting at all.  I'm in the same boat with
this question.
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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
Great replies, people !   Thanks !
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Re: LVM boot issue?

2012-01-19 Thread Emilio Lopez
> I have booted from a F16 live CD and can see the data on the drive but can
> not seem to get enough access to copy off the data or get around the check

When I need to do this kind of rescue, I like to use Knoppix distro, I
never had permissions problems copying hdd data with it.

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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Timothy Davis

On 01/19/2012 02:36 PM, John Aldrich wrote:

Quoting Reindl Harald :

Am 19.01.2012 19:05, schrieb linux guy:

I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
only want to use it as a processing unit.


you do not really want this because the machine will OVERHEAT!

How do you figure that? I'm typing this at my desk at work on a laptop 
with the lid closed. Granted it's on a docking station that raises the 
rear a couple inches (I guess for extra air-flow) but it still 
illustrates the fallacy of your argument.


+1, I like to leave my netbeook plugged in with the lid closed when I 
download a huge file overnight. Never been an issue here.


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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Ingason

2012-01-19 17:35, Terry Polzin skrev:

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 16:28 +, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote:



OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.



Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15


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I guess this systemctl/systemd stuff takes some getting used to.



It is quit logical:

$ sudo systemctl enable chronyd.service
ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service' 
'/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/chronyd.service'

$ sudo systemctl start chronyd.service
$ sudo systemctl status chronyd.service
chronyd.service - NTP client/server
  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service; enabled)
  Active: active (running) since Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:32:40 +0100; 9s ago
	 Process: 3 ExecStartPost=/usr/libexec/chrony-helper 
add-dhclient-servers (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
	 Process: 31108 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/chronyd -u chrony $OPTIONS 
(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
	 Process: 31099 ExecStartPre=/usr/libexec/chrony-helper 
generate-commandkey (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

Main PID: 31110 (chronyd)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/chronyd.service
  └ 31110 /usr/sbin/chronyd -u chrony
$


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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Reindl Harald :

Am 19.01.2012 19:05, schrieb linux guy:

I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
only want to use it as a processing unit.


you do not really want this because the machine will OVERHEAT!

How do you figure that? I'm typing this at my desk at work on a laptop  
with the lid closed. Granted it's on a docking station that raises the  
rear a couple inches (I guess for extra air-flow) but it still  
illustrates the fallacy of your argument.


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LVM boot issue?

2012-01-19 Thread Dave Stevens
I have a workstation with 2 Seagate SATA drives, the older a 320 with  
F7 and data, now used for backups, and a current 640G with F14.  
Recently the F14 has refused to boot. I am able to boot F7 from the  
older drive but not to much effect, it is so far out of sync with my  
work that it's pretty much useless.


At boot time on the F14 drive I get:

3 logical volume(s) in volume group "VolGroup00" now active
2 logical volumes in volume group "vg_davehost" now active
[OK]

Checking filesystems
/dev/mapper/vg_davehost-lv_root contains a file system with errors,  
check forced.

/dev/mapper/vg_davehost-lv_root: [spinner for progress %]


Then at some time [around 2.5% checked] the system reboots back into  
the same situation and the sequence repeats.


I have booted from a F16 live CD and can see the data on the drive but  
can not seem to get enough access to copy off the data or get around  
the check or get the check to correct the error. Also I don't know the  
result of the check and don't see how to get more info. I can verify  
that the drive is /dev/sde and that sde2 has my data, but I don't know  
how to mount it in a readable way even though nautilus apparently  
does. As liveuser I haven't enough access to see my data or move it.


Suggestions? References?

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Re: [389-users] el6 testing repository out of date

2012-01-19 Thread Rich Megginson

On 01/19/2012 11:26 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

On 01/19/2012 11:21 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/19/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

On 01/18/2012 05:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/18/2012 03:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I'm seeing 389-ds-base 1.2.10-0.6.a6.el5 in epel testing, but only
389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.el6 in epel-testing-389-ds-base. Is this 
repo still

active?


Updated - try it now


Still seems old. Am I using the correct repo?

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/


yes. do you see 1.2.10.a6 in here -
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/epel-6/testing/x86_64/ 



Yes, but the repodata has not been updated.  You need to run createrepo.


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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/19/2012 01:05 PM, linux guy wrote:
> I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
> external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
> only want to use it as a processing unit.
> 
> How do I disable the lid switch from putting it into sleep mode ?
> 
> The following outlines how to prevent the lid switch from initiating a
> wakeup, but how does one set it up so that it doesn't initiate a sleep
> ?
> 
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72779
> 
> The following talks about acpi events and actions, but I don't see a
> script for sleeping upon lid closed, so where does it happen in
> F16/KDE ?
> 
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_acpid
> 
> Thanks !

  Ignoring potential heating issues - you just click on the KDE
power/battery applet - click the wrench icon - and change the powersave
profile:

  Look for for 'When lid is close closed' set it to 'do nothing' instead
of 'sleep'.

 gene/
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Re: [389-users] el6 testing repository out of date

2012-01-19 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 01/19/2012 11:21 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/19/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

On 01/18/2012 05:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/18/2012 03:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I'm seeing 389-ds-base 1.2.10-0.6.a6.el5 in epel testing, but only
389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.el6 in epel-testing-389-ds-base. Is this repo still
active?


Updated - try it now


Still seems old. Am I using the correct repo?

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/


yes. do you see 1.2.10.a6 in here -
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/epel-6/testing/x86_64/


Yes, but the repodata has not been updated.  You need to run createrepo.

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Re: [389-users] el6 testing repository out of date

2012-01-19 Thread Rich Megginson

On 01/19/2012 11:22 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

On 01/18/2012 05:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/18/2012 03:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I'm seeing 389-ds-base 1.2.10-0.6.a6.el5 in epel testing, but only
389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.el6 in epel-testing-389-ds-base. Is this 
repo still

active?


Updated - try it now


Still seems old.  Am I using the correct repo?

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/

yes.  do you see 1.2.10.a6 in here - 
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/epel-6/testing/x86_64/

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Re: [389-users] el6 testing repository out of date

2012-01-19 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 01/18/2012 05:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 01/18/2012 03:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I'm seeing 389-ds-base 1.2.10-0.6.a6.el5 in epel testing, but only
389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.el6 in epel-testing-389-ds-base. Is this repo still
active?


Updated - try it now


Still seems old.  Am I using the correct repo?

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base/

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Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 19.01.2012 19:05, schrieb linux guy:
> I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
> external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
> only want to use it as a processing unit.

you do not really want this because the machine will OVERHEAT!



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Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed.   I'm using
external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc.   When its at my desk, I
only want to use it as a processing unit.

How do I disable the lid switch from putting it into sleep mode ?

The following outlines how to prevent the lid switch from initiating a
wakeup, but how does one set it up so that it doesn't initiate a sleep
?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72779

The following talks about acpi events and actions, but I don't see a
script for sleeping upon lid closed, so where does it happen in
F16/KDE ?

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_acpid

Thanks !
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Re: RPM creation

2012-01-19 Thread Anthony Messina
On 01/19/2012 11:50 AM, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Does anyone know of a tutorial on creating a simple rpm package that
> basically just copies a few files into specified locations?

It's not really a tutorial, though this example may help.  I do the same
thing as you are trying to do.

I make tarballs from the source here:
http://messinet.com/trac/browser/mss-workstation and build the RPMs from
the spec file here:
http://messinet.com/rpms/browser/mss-workstation/mss-workstation.spec

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Re: RPM creation

2012-01-19 Thread Andre Speelmans
> Does anyone know of a tutorial on creating a simple rpm package that
> basically just copies a few files into specified locations?

Make a tarball, let that be extracted as explained in the examples in
the setup phase, leave the build phase empty and than in the install
phase copy the files to their destination.
That's at least how I have done, there is no obligation to do any
compiling or whatsoever during the build phase.

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RPM creation

2012-01-19 Thread Stephen Berg (Contractor)
I'm attempting to create an rpm that will install some locally generated 
and maintained scripts, configs, etc.  All the tutorials I've found so 
far seem to key in on having a source package tarball and compiling code 
and all that entails.  I just need to package some simple scripts and 
whatnot so installing and updating them on the systems I maintain will 
be a little bit easier.


Does anyone know of a tutorial on creating a simple rpm package that 
basically just copies a few files into specified locations?


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Clicking on an email link in Chrome

2012-01-19 Thread John Aldrich
Every time I click on an email link in Google Chrome it brings up  
Firefox and that brings up Evolution. My default email client is  
KMail. I looked in the "help" section for Chrome and there is nothing  
in Chrome on the "default application handlers" on my system. KMail is  
set as the default email client in "systemsettings." Any ideas short  
of uninstalling Firefox and Evolution? That seems rather drastic.

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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting linux guy :


With the aforementioned resolution changes, my display looks about 10x
better.  Make that 20x better.

One situation which still looks really awful is viewing gmail in
Firefox.   For some reason that font is terrible.


Install Chrome. :D
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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
With the aforementioned resolution changes, my display looks about 10x
better.  Make that 20x better.

One situation which still looks really awful is viewing gmail in
Firefox.   For some reason that font is terrible.
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 16:35, Terry Polzin wrote:


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Brand spankey new install on a new machine.

I guess this systemctl/systemd stuff takes some getting used to.




rpm -q chrony

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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 16:28 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote:
> 
> >
> > OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.
> >
> 
> Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15
> 
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Brand spankey new install on a new machine. 

I guess this systemctl/systemd stuff takes some getting used to.


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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM, linux guy  wrote:
>> Is X running at the right size for your monitor (the screen height and
>> width in pixels),

I just learned something, thanks to your suggestion.  Aside, this is
why I ask questions on this list.  There is always someone else out
there that has more knowledge or has looked at things differently.

So...

I'm using a Dell XPS17 laptop with the proprietary nVidia driver. (Had
trouble with nouveau.)

I'm driving the U3011 (2560x1600) via the Display Port.

If I start a KDE session in twinview mode, according to the nVidia
configuration GUI, under X screen, my resolution is 128 x 130 dots per
inch.  I find those numbers a bit odd.

However, if I disable the laptop display, (1920x1080) which I don't
really need anyway, the nVidia configuration GUI tells me my
resolution is 75x75 DPI.

I think this change alone increased the crispness of displayed text.

However, in KDE-> System Settings-> Application Appearance -> Fonts,
it has Force fonts DPI and the 2 options it gives are Disabled, 96 DPI
and 120 DPI.   I Disabled it.

In the nvidia-settings GUI, I also enabled Syncing to the U3011
Display Device, 2x Anti Aliasing, 2x Ansitropic Filtering and Texture
Sharpening.

Is there anything else I can do ?
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote:



OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.



Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15


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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 19.01.2012 17:12, schrieb Terry Polzin:
>> ntpd.service is provided by the ntp package, which you do not have 
>> installed.
>>
>> yum provides "*/ntpd.service" would have told you that.
>>
>> You need:
>>
>> yum install ntp
>>
>>
>> ntpdate is not the same thing.
>>
>>
>> - Mike
>>
> OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.

yes, it is silly to complain instead install a service you want
to start - default setups has to be as compact as possible!

there is way too much crap installed as default over years



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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Terry Polzin  said:
> OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.

RTFRelease notes:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html#id2975208

   3.8.2. Chrony
   Fedora 16 uses Chrony as the default Network Time Protocol (NTP)
   client. Chrony is designed to work well even on systems with no
   permanent network connection (such as laptops), and is capable of
   much faster time synchronisation than standard ntp. Chrony has
   several advantages when used in systems running on virtual machines,
   such as a larger range for frequency correction to help correct
   quickly drifting clocks, and better response to rapid changes in the
   clock frequency. It also has a smaller memory footprint and no
   unnecessary process wakeups, improving power efficiency. 

Since Chrony is installed by default, ntpd is not.
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Re: system programming related query

2012-01-19 Thread JB
shreyas m  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> Hello,
>          I am developing a c based application which needs authenticating
> the user as a root- user. I'm wiling to provide the responsibility of
> password verification to fedora os, as in the case of built in applications 
> such as NFS,HTTP. I would prefer a similar interface for authentication as 
> provided by NFS while opening it. Is there any possibility to do it? By 
> giving a link to a system related file or creating a file  in some location 
> so that when i open my application authentication of the root user should be 
> done in a similar way as that of NFS or HTTP. 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

menu - Administration - Firewall

click Close button

before entering password,
expand Details:

org.fedoraproject.config.firewall.auth
System Config Firewall

click Cancel button

org.fedoraproject.slip.dbus.service.PolKit.NotAuthorizedException.org. \
fedoraproject.config.firewall.auth:

$ rpm -ql system-config-firewall
...
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.fedoraproject.config.firewall.policy
...

Authorization is performed by PolicyKit.

$ man polkit

$ yum list "*Pol*Kit*"
Installed Packages
polkit.i686  0.98-5.fc14   @updates
polkit-desktop-policy.noarch 0.98-5.fc14   @updates
...
polkit-docs.i686 0.98-5.fc14   updates
...

$ yum info polkit
$ yum info polkit-desktop-policy
...

I hope this will get you started, eventually with their site, devs, or
users list.

JB





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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 10:45 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
> > ntpd.service
> >   Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
> >   Active: inactive (dead)
> > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
> > spamd.service
> >   Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
> >   Active: inactive (dead)
> >
> > So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
> > include it?
> >
> > [root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp
> >
> > ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
> > @fedora
> > spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
> > @fedora
> 
> ntpd.service is provided by the ntp package, which you do not have 
> installed.
> 
> yum provides "*/ntpd.service" would have told you that.
> 
> You need:
> 
> yum install ntp
> 
> 
> ntpdate is not the same thing.
> 
> 
> - Mike
> 

OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly.


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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Tim  wrote:

> I'll state the obvious, despite your comment about JPEGs (because their
> content can disguise this), it can still be an issue, and is easily
> overlooked when changing a monitor:

I agree.  I appreciate your input in this regard.

> Is X running at the right size for your monitor (the screen height and
> width in pixels),

Yes.  I'm using a Dell U3011, running at 2560x1600, its native resolution.

 and using the right resolution (dots per inch) for the
> correct generation of graphics (including text).

Now this I didn't think of and it could entirely be the issue.

What should it be set to and where would I set it ?  (xorg.conf ?)

And the wrong resolution results in poor text
> rendering, which deliberately fuzzes the edges of fonts to hide the poor
> resolution of monitors (giving you smoother, instead of jagged edges).

This sounds like exactly my problem.
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 15:53, Aaron Konstam wrote:



Before you do a status command you need an enable command, at least.
i.e: systemctl enable ntpd.service
and then maybe:
systemctl start ntpd.service


not correct.
systemctl staus foo.service
will also return if a service is disabled.


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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Mark Panen  wrote:

Thanks for the reply !

> Download the Verdana font

Where ?  How ?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/files/the
fonts/final/verdan32.exe/download ?

and enable gtk in the KDE settings. After days of
> trying, that's the best i got.

What do you mean by enable the gtk in KDE settings ?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_QT_and_GTK_Applications  ?
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f15-f16: how to clean 'df' command

2012-01-19 Thread Dario Lesca
For clean df command...

$ sudo -i
# echo "alias df='df -x tmpfs -x rootfs -x devtmpfs'"  > /etc/profile.d/df.sh
# exit

This work for me, hope this help

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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Kevin Martin


On 01/19/2012 09:50 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Martin  wrote:
>> I get that; what I don't get is how it even *sees* a  network.service
>> service since there is no network.service file in /lib/systemd/system
>> (unless it's as a result of my making the network available in runlevel3
>> when I did the "chkconfig --level 3 network on" command...)
> I think what you're confused about is how systemd deals with legacy
> SysV init files.
>
> Yes, there is no "physical" network.service file. I don't know what
> exactly it is, but to call it something, it's a "virtual" service file
> that SystemD creates for every legacy SysV init file. So any file in
> /etc/init.d get's a virtual .service equivalent.
>
> Richard
Ah, see, that turns the light bulb on!  That makes things much clearer!  Thanks!

Kevin
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 15:34, Terry Polzin wrote:

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote:

systemctl status spamd.service



[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
ntpd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
spamd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)


Have you ntp also installed?




So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
include it?

[root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp

ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
@fedora
spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
@fedora



It doesn't appear to have native systemd files,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2695852
so try "service spamd restart", and see what
it does.

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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 10:34 -0500, Terry Polzin wrote: 
> On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > systemctl status spamd.service
> > 
> > 
> [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
> ntpd.service
> Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
> Active: inactive (dead)
> [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
> spamd.service
> Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
> Active: inactive (dead)
> 
> So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
> include it?
> 
> [root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp
>   
> ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
> @fedora
> spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
> @fedora
> 

Before you do a status command you need an enable command, at least.
i.e: systemctl enable ntpd.service
and then maybe:
systemctl start ntpd.service
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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Martin  wrote:
> I get that; what I don't get is how it even *sees* a  network.service
> service since there is no network.service file in /lib/systemd/system
> (unless it's as a result of my making the network available in runlevel3
> when I did the "chkconfig --level 3 network on" command...)

I think what you're confused about is how systemd deals with legacy
SysV init files.

Yes, there is no "physical" network.service file. I don't know what
exactly it is, but to call it something, it's a "virtual" service file
that SystemD creates for every legacy SysV init file. So any file in
/etc/init.d get's a virtual .service equivalent.

Richard
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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
ntpd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
spamd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)

So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
include it?

[root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp

ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
@fedora
spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
@fedora


ntpd.service is provided by the ntp package, which you do not have 
installed.


yum provides "*/ntpd.service" would have told you that.

You need:

yum install ntp


ntpdate is not the same thing.


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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> systemctl status spamd.service
> 
> 
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service
ntpd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service
spamd.service
  Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
  Active: inactive (dead)

So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to
include it?

[root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp
  
ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16
@fedora
spamassassin.x86_64   3.3.2-7.fc16
@fedora

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system programming related query

2012-01-19 Thread shreyas m
Hello,
 I am developing a c based application which needs authenticating
the user as a root- user. I'm wiling to provide the responsibility of
password verification to fedora os, as in the case of built in applications
such as NFS,HTTP. I would prefer a similar interface for authentication as
provided by NFS while opening it. Is there any possibility to do it? By
giving a link to a system related file or creating a file  in some location
so that when i open my application authentication of the root user should
be done in a similar way as that of NFS or HTTP.

Thank you very much

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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 19.01.2012 15:50, schrieb Kevin Martin:
> I get that; what I don't get is how it even *sees* a  network.service service 
> since there is no network.service file in /lib/systemd/system (unless it's as 
> a result of my making the network available in runlevel3 when I did the
> "chkconfig --level 3 network on" command...)

why do you think systemd needs the file physical?

it needs only to know how to deal with this scripts
and force them in compatibility mode and this is
what it does

take a deeper look at the status-output!

[root@rh:~]$ systemctl status network.service
network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
  Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
  Active: active (exited) since Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:44:54 +0100; 37s ago
 Process: 8117 ExecStop=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
 Process: 8281 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service



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Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 14:56, Terry Polzin wrote:

Come on, NTP doesn't run systemd says it's failed? Where are the error
messages.


no rpoblems with ntp here.
try:
systemctl status ntpd.service



Same thing with spamd (spamassassin).


Sorry, don' use it, but maybe:
systemctl status spamd.service


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systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
Come on, NTP doesn't run systemd says it's failed? Where are the error
messages.  

Same thing with spamd (spamassassin).

Major failure of the developers here, maybe we need to S-L-O-W down the
release process.



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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 14:48, Kevin Martin wrote:

have you added: NM_CONTROLLED=no
to your network script?



Frank,


chkconfig --list is how I determined that I even had networking after I removed 
NetworkManager via yum (I did not add
NM_CONTROLLED=no since I don't have NetworkManager installed anymore).


neither do I, but I still required that line,
for network to function prprely.


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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Kevin Martin


On 01/19/2012 08:45 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 19.01.2012 15:31, schrieb Kevin Martin:
>>
>> On 01/18/2012 12:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 18.01.2012 18:42, schrieb Kevin Martin:
 Chkconfig --level 3 network on setup the following files in
 /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants directory:

 dbus.service
 getty.target
 plymouth-quit.service
 plymouth-quit-wait.service
 rc-local.services
 systemd-ask-password-wall.path
 systemd-logind.service
 systemd-user-sessions.service

 What a big bunch of links to have setup!  
 I hope that somebody, when chkconfig is no longer installed by default, 
 has an equivalent type command to enable networking when there's no
 X windows available! 
>>> what are you speaking about?
>>> "systemctl enable network.service" exists all the time
>>>
>> Well, see, that's what I thought too.  But when I look, I don't see a 
>> network.service file:
>>
>> $ ls /lib/systemd/system/*net*
>> /lib/systemd/system/network.target
>>
>> So I don't know how the command you mentioned would work
> as every other sysv-service since systemd took over
> what do you think does the "via systemctl" mean? :-)
>
> [root@rh:~]$ service network restart
> Restarting network (via systemctl):[  OK  ]
>
> [root@rh:~]$ systemctl status network.service
> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
>   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
>   Active: active (exited) since Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:44:54 +0100; 37s 
> ago
>  Process: 8117 ExecStop=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop (code=exited, 
> status=0/SUCCESS)
>  Process: 8281 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, 
> status=0/SUCCESS)
>   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
>
>
>
>
>
I get that; what I don't get is how it even *sees* a  network.service service 
since there is no network.service file in
/lib/systemd/system (unless it's as a result of my making the network available 
in runlevel3 when I did the "chkconfig --level 3
network on" command...)

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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Kevin Martin


On 01/19/2012 08:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 19/01/12 14:31, Kevin Martin wrote:
>
>>>
>> Well, see, that's what I thought too. But when I look, I don't see a
>> network.service file:
>>
>> $ ls /lib/systemd/system/*net*
>> /lib/systemd/system/network.target
>
> try systemctl status network.service
>
>>
>>
>> So I don't know how the command you mentioned would work.
>>
>
> It should, ir refrences non-native service back to SysV iirc.
>
> what does "chkconfig --list" show?
> is network in there?
>
> have you added: NM_CONTROLLED=no
> to your network script?
>
>
Frank,


chkconfig --list is how I determined that I even had networking after I removed 
NetworkManager via yum (I did not add
NM_CONTROLLED=no since I don't have NetworkManager installed anymore).  Below 
please see the output of both the "systemctl status"
and "chkconfig --list" (but I wonder if the "systemctl status network.service" 
doesn't show what it does *because* I already made
the network accessible in runlevel3 via a "chkconfig --level 3 network on" 
command.)

$ systemctl status network.service
network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
  Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
  Active: active (exited) since Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:11:22 -0600; 20h ago
Main PID: 811 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service



$ chkconfig --list

Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native
  systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden by native
  systemd configuration.

iscsi  0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
iscsid 0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
livesys0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
livesys-late   0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
netconsole 0:off1:off2:off3:off4:off5:off6:off
netfs  0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
network0:off1:off2:off3:on4:off5:off6:off

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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 19.01.2012 15:31, schrieb Kevin Martin:
> 
> 
> On 01/18/2012 12:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 18.01.2012 18:42, schrieb Kevin Martin:
>>> Chkconfig --level 3 network on setup the following files in
>>> /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants directory:
>>>
>>> dbus.service
>>> getty.target
>>> plymouth-quit.service
>>> plymouth-quit-wait.service
>>> rc-local.services
>>> systemd-ask-password-wall.path
>>> systemd-logind.service
>>> systemd-user-sessions.service
>>>
>>> What a big bunch of links to have setup!  
>>> I hope that somebody, when chkconfig is no longer installed by default, 
>>> has an equivalent type command to enable networking when there's no
>>> X windows available! 
>> what are you speaking about?
>> "systemctl enable network.service" exists all the time
>>
> Well, see, that's what I thought too.  But when I look, I don't see a 
> network.service file:
> 
> $ ls /lib/systemd/system/*net*
> /lib/systemd/system/network.target
> 
> So I don't know how the command you mentioned would work

as every other sysv-service since systemd took over
what do you think does the "via systemctl" mean? :-)

[root@rh:~]$ service network restart
Restarting network (via systemctl):[  OK  ]

[root@rh:~]$ systemctl status network.service
network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
  Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
  Active: active (exited) since Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:44:54 +0100; 37s ago
 Process: 8117 ExecStop=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
 Process: 8281 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service





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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/01/12 14:31, Kevin Martin wrote:




Well, see, that's what I thought too. But when I look, I don't see a
network.service file:

$ ls /lib/systemd/system/*net*
/lib/systemd/system/network.target


try systemctl status network.service




So I don't know how the command you mentioned would work.



It should, ir refrences non-native service back to SysV iirc.

what does "chkconfig --list" show?
is network in there?

have you added: NM_CONTROLLED=no
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Re: Thank god for chkconfig still being somewhat workable in Fedora 16....

2012-01-19 Thread Kevin Martin


On 01/18/2012 12:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 18.01.2012 18:42, schrieb Kevin Martin:
>> Chkconfig --level 3 network on setup the following files in
>> /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants directory:
>>
>> dbus.service
>> getty.target
>> plymouth-quit.service
>> plymouth-quit-wait.service
>> rc-local.services
>> systemd-ask-password-wall.path
>> systemd-logind.service
>> systemd-user-sessions.service
>>
>> What a big bunch of links to have setup!  
>> I hope that somebody, when chkconfig is no longer installed by default, 
>> has an equivalent type command to enable networking when there's no
>> X windows available! 
> what are you speaking about?
> "systemctl enable network.service" exists all the time
>
>
>
>
>
Well, see, that's what I thought too.  But when I look, I don't see a 
network.service file:

$ ls /lib/systemd/system/*net*
/lib/systemd/system/network.target


So I don't know how the command you mentioned would work.

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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 11:22 -0700, Pete Travis wrote:
> I've experienced something similar to your problem, and on that
> system, I was able to restart X with ctl-alt-backspace and was
> successful on the second try.

In my case, I could never log onto the new F16 install, graphically.
Just got that crappy "oh no" graphic, with no way to get any further.

However, I was lucky in that I could CTRL+ALT+F2 (or one of the other
terminals), and log into a command line.  I let a "yum update" do its
thing, and after that I could log into a graphical system.

That sort of thing would be one of my first things to try if a new
install wasn't working right.  Certainly not reformatting and
re-installing, this isn't Windows.  If the install seemed to work
without any errors, the first time around, then I'd be fairly sure that
the install had worked.  And that another attempt wouldn't be any
different.

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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-19 Thread Freak Trick
I could not get xterm suggestion by (Pete Travis) to work; the problem still 
persits. Here is what the .xsession-errors reads - 


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
ssh-agent is already running; starting gpg-agent without ssh support
xfdesktop[1629]: starting up
xfce4-settings-helper: Another instance is already running. Leaving...
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/gpg:0:1
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/gpg:0:1
Initializing nautilus-gdu extension

(nautilus:1744): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
** Message: applet now removed from the notification area

(nm-applet:1769): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area
Shutting down nautilus-gdu extension

** (seapplet:1757): WARNING **: Error showing notification: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files

** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method "Get" with 
signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method 
"Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method "Get" with 
signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method 
"Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method "Get" with 
signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method 
"Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method "Get" with 
signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method 
"Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
doesn't exist


** (deja-dup-monitor:1662): DEBUG: monitor.vala:263: Invalid next run date.  
Not scheduling a backup.

(google-chrome:1778): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_new_from_data: 
assertion `width > 0' failed
[1778:1778:1698851724:ERROR:browser_main.cc(146)] Gdk: 
IA__gdk_cursor_new_from_pixbuf: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
[1778:1778:1698851811:ERROR:browser_main.cc(146)] GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: 
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

** (xfce4-session:1621): WARNING **: ICE connection 0x9518d38 rejected

** (xfce4-session:1621): WARNING **: ICE connection 0x9521610 rejected



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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 23:52 -0700, linux guy wrote:
> I upgraded to a larger monitor and now Linux (KDE) looks a bit dumpy.
>  
> Can someone point me to some really nice KDE themes, desktops, etc.
>  
> I'm having a bunch of trouble with fonts, especially in Firefox.
> Everything looks a bit fuzzy.   And yet jpeg images look excellent.

I'll state the obvious, despite your comment about JPEGs (because their
content can disguise this), it can still be an issue, and is easily
overlooked when changing a monitor:

Is X running at the right size for your monitor (the screen height and
width in pixels), and using the right resolution (dots per inch) for the
correct generation of graphics (including text).

The wrong screensize means the monitor will (badly) scale the picture up
to fill the screen.  And the wrong resolution results in poor text
rendering, which deliberately fuzzes the edges of fonts to hide the poor
resolution of monitors (giving you smoother, instead of jagged edges).
This antialiasing has to be done at the right resolution to do a good
job of it.  Also, certain fonts just don't do antialiasing well.

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Re: [ why i do not like base64]

2012-01-19 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 03:52 +, g wrote:
> NISM ??

I have no idea what that abbreviation refers to, but the (obvious) spam
(simply by looking at the list of recipients) you replied to was not
received as base64 encoded, here.

Nor should it really be a problem.  Only the most ancient or
dysfunctional mail clients would not be able to handle base64 encoded
messages.  And, I dare say, the same derision should be applicable to
anything else that *handles* mail for you.

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yum commands at reboot

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy

Suggestions for improvement welcome.

For a particular test machine.

1: crontab -e
@reboot yum --randomwait=5 clean metadata | yum --randomwait=10 
createrepo  /my/local/repo


2: or:
@reboot yum --disablerepo=local --randomwait=10 clean metadata

I think no. 2 looks the tidier.

I don't want to test until, some feedback. Just in case.

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Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)

2012-01-19 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:52 PM, linux guy  wrote:
> I upgraded to a larger monitor and now Linux (KDE) looks a bit dumpy.
>
> Can someone point me to some really nice KDE themes, desktops, etc.

There are a bunch at http://kde-look.org/

I can't recommend one because I just use Oxygen with the Obsidian
Coast (black-on-white) color scheme, which suits me just fine.

> I'm having a bunch of trouble with fonts, especially in Firefox.
> Everything looks a bit fuzzy.   And yet jpeg images look excellent.

Try enabling font hinting.  As root:
ln -sf ../conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-authohint.conf

-T.C.
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