Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 11.02.2012 00:56, schrieb don fisher:
> On 02/10/12 21:11, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 11.02.2012 00:08, schrieb don fisher:
>>> On 02/10/12 20:18, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 10.02.2012 21:58, schrieb don fisher:
> I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that 
> boots my system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and
> the
> ones that fail to load my Radeon driver.
>
> I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.
>
> But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not 
> appear to hold an rpm history. The
> srpm DVD
> has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody aware of a site that retains source RPMs 
> including kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
>>>
>>> How did you find that one? When I did a Google search on 
>>> kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm I received no results. I did
>>> save the link. Looking through the changelogs I could not find any 
>>> reference to Radeon that I thought was relevant.
>>> Thanks to you I will compare the driver source code.
>>
>> koji is simply the fedora build-system
>> type  in the search-field
>>
>> all packages available for fedora in the last
>> years are there by design since you can also
>> watch currently building new packages
> 
> How risky is rawhide. I used to build it back when the fedora number was a 
> single digit. The I was doing a lot of
> socket based threading and it had the up to date libraries with sse2 etc. in 
> it.

what has this to do with rawhide?

koji is the build system at all
for all current supported and developed fedora-versions

you see the fc15, fc16, fc17... in the version




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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 21:11, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 11.02.2012 00:08, schrieb don fisher:

On 02/10/12 20:18, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 10.02.2012 21:58, schrieb don fisher:

I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that boots my 
system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the
ones that fail to load my Radeon driver.

I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.

But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not appear 
to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD
has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8


How did you find that one? When I did a Google search on 
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm I received no results. I did
save the link. Looking through the changelogs I could not find any reference to 
Radeon that I thought was relevant.
Thanks to you I will compare the driver source code.


koji is simply the fedora build-system
type  in the search-field

all packages available for fedora in the last
years are there by design since you can also
watch currently building new packages


How risky is rawhide. I used to build it back when the fedora number was 
a single digit. The I was doing a lot of socket based threading and it 
had the up to date libraries with sse2 etc. in it.


I was writing pseudo real time code to run an adaptive optics system on 
the Multiple Mirror Telescope (MMT). That was before the bubble burst, 
budgets were cut, and I retired:-(


Don
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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 20:10, g wrote:


On 02/10/2012 08:58 PM, don fisher wrote:

I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that
boots my system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the ones that fail to load my
Radeon driver.

I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.

But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not
appear to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody
aware of a site that retains source RPMs including
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.

-=-

11 hits;

http://www.google.com/search?q=kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm&hl=en&num=100&lr=lang_en&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&tbs=lr:lang_1en


Did you happen to notice that it was released on Friday the 13th:-)
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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 11.02.2012 00:08, schrieb don fisher:
> On 02/10/12 20:18, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 10.02.2012 21:58, schrieb don fisher:
>>> I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that boots 
>>> my system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the
>>> ones that fail to load my Radeon driver.
>>>
>>> I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.
>>>
>>> But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not 
>>> appear to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD
>>> has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
>>> kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.
>>
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
> 
> How did you find that one? When I did a Google search on 
> kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm I received no results. I did
> save the link. Looking through the changelogs I could not find any reference 
> to Radeon that I thought was relevant.
> Thanks to you I will compare the driver source code.

koji is simply the fedora build-system
type  in the search-field

all packages available for fedora in the last
years are there by design since you can also
watch currently building new packages



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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 20:18, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 10.02.2012 21:58, schrieb don fisher:

I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that boots my 
system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the
ones that fail to load my Radeon driver.

I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.

But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not appear 
to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD
has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8


How did you find that one? When I did a Google search on 
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm I received no results. I did save the link. 
Looking through the changelogs I could not find any reference to Radeon 
that I thought was relevant. Thanks to you I will compare the driver 
source code.


Don
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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 10.02.2012 21:58, schrieb don fisher:
> I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that boots my 
> system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the
> ones that fail to load my Radeon driver.
> 
> I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.
> 
> But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not 
> appear to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD
> has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
> kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8





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Re: ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread g

On 02/10/2012 08:58 PM, don fisher wrote:
> I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that 
> boots my system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the ones that fail to load my 
> Radeon driver.
> 
> I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.
> 
> But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not 
> appear to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody 
> aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
> kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.
-=-

11 hits;

http://www.google.com/search?q=kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm&hl=en&num=100&lr=lang_en&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&tbs=lr:lang_1en


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ftp site for source rpms

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher
I have been trying to discover what happened between the kernel that 
boots my system (3.1.9-1.fc16.x86_64) and the ones that fail to load my 
Radeon driver.


I can get the current src rpm kernel-3.2.3-2.fc16.src.rpm.

But the one that I am currently using is 3.1.9-1 and the mirrors do not 
appear to hold an rpm history. The srpm DVD has 3.1.0-7. Is anybody 
aware of a site that retains source RPMs including 
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.src.rpm.


Thanks,
Don

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Re: preupgrade grub2 failed: now can't boot

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 16:25, linux guy wrote:

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Greg Woods  wrote:


All in all, the upgrade to F16 was by far the most difficult Fedora
upgrade I have ever done.


I agree !  F15 and F16 were terrible upgrades for me.

However, if you used the Install DVD, it goes very smoothly.

Because of the last 2 upgrades, I've become leary of the preupgrade
process. I think I'll use the DVD for F17 as well.


Hi,

I have had many problems, as seen by the number of times I have posted 
in the past week. There are some things that just make no sense.
1. In the install DVD the provide the option to make your own partition 
layout, but there is no provision in the pull down menu to make the 
bios-grub partition.
2. Why do they make a /home partition be default. That should be a 
choice for those that do not like partitions. (I usually have just a 
root partition and a swap partition).
3. Why do they force a boot partition? As far as I know using /boot has 
worked since Fedora2.
4. Why is the starting group number 1000? I was assigned the ID/group of 
239 back in 1994. All of my systems know me by that number, which is 
very convenient when you NFS mount many disks. I exited /etc/login.defs 
to allow 239 and have had many mysterious problems. system-config-users 
does not appear to work!


Is there a place where the logic for these changes would be documented? 
Is there a place where system management from command line is 
documented? Some of us do not like sluggish window managers. The old 
fvwm does everything I desire, and more.


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Re: preupgrade grub2 failed: now can't boot

2012-02-10 Thread linux guy
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Greg Woods  wrote:

> All in all, the upgrade to F16 was by far the most difficult Fedora
> upgrade I have ever done.

I agree !  F15 and F16 were terrible upgrades for me.

However, if you used the Install DVD, it goes very smoothly.

Because of the last 2 upgrades, I've become leary of the preupgrade
process. I think I'll use the DVD for F17 as well.
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Re: acroread 64 bit

2012-02-10 Thread Paolo Galtieri
You need to install the gdk-pixbuf2 library for i686.   acroread is not a
64 bit application it is 32 bit so you need the 32 bit version of the
libgdk_pixbuf_xlib library.  This should do the trick.

Paolo

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How to get an acroread working with a 64bit machine?
> If I do:
> yum install nspluginwrapper.i686 AdobeReader_enu
> I get
> Error: Protected multilib versions: 1:cups-libs-1.5.0-22.fc16.i686 !=
> 1:cups-libs-1.5.2-1.fc16.x86_**64
> Error: Protected multilib versions: krb5-libs-1.9.2-4.fc16.i686 !=
> krb5-libs-1.9.2-6.fc16.x86_64
>
> if I install from AdbeRdr9.4.7-1_i486linux_enu.**bin
> Then I get an error
> Adobe/Reader9/Reader/**intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
> shared libraries: libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object
> file: No such file or directory
>
> Thank for your help.
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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Pete Travis
On Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM, "Timothy Murphy"  wrote:
>
> Pete Travis wrote:
>
> > Why do you need to run this as root?
>
> I ran it with and without sudo,
> just to see if there was any difference.
> There wasn't.
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It it in your best interests to get out of that habit.  You are going to
start seeing strange problems you don't understand, and things will break
in ways that are hard to troubleshoot and fix.  Your system sounds pretty
mixed up, and I'm guessing that running things as root unecessarily is a
contributing factor.
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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:08:26 -0700
don fisher  wrote:

> On 02/10/12 13:47, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > yum reinstall iputils
> My getcap /bin/ping showed nothing. I reinstalled iputils as
> suggested and now I get the correct response from getcap AND ping
> works:-) How do you think it could have become broken?

No idea. If you copied or did an install to some filesystem that didn't
do capabilities I guess, but that seems unlikely. ;( 

kevin


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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 13:47, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

yum reinstall iputils
My getcap /bin/ping showed nothing. I reinstalled iputils as suggested 
and now I get the correct response from getcap AND ping works:-) How do 
you think it could have become broken?


Thanks again,
Don
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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Pete Travis wrote:

> Why do you need to run this as root?

I ran it with and without sudo,
just to see if there was any difference.
There wasn't.

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Kernel 3.2.3-2 will not initialize my Radeon based laptop

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher
Title says it all. On boot I received a blur of messages, something 
about not being able to allocate a specified amount of memory. These 
messages are not logged anywhere I know of. They used to go out the 
serial port and could be linked to another machine, remember that DB9 
socket:-) How does one handle problems like this. Last time I was using 
Fedora I was building my own kernels.


Don

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[389-users] The 389 wiki is moving to a new machine

2012-02-10 Thread Rich Megginson
We are moving the 389 wiki to a new machine.  There appear to be some 
problems with DNS at the moment.  If you use www.port389.org you can get 
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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:20:05 -0700
don fisher  wrote:

> Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as 
> root. When I try to ping as a user I get:
> 
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
> 
> There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
> was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to add
> groups to my account without using system-config-users?

There's no special ping group... 

what does 'rpm -V iputils' show? I bet you lost somehow the capability
bits set on ping. 

% getcap /bin/ping
/bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep

if rpm -V iputils shows ping is wrong, do a 'yum reinstall iputils' 

kevin


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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Scott Doty
On 02/09/2012 01:20 PM, don fisher wrote:
> Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
> root. When I try to ping as a user I get:
>
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
>
> There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it was
> not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to add groups
> to my account without using system-config-users?
>
> Where are these things documented?
>
> Thanks,
> Don

Check your capabilities for /bin/ping:

Here I have:

_[/home/scott]_(scott@eva)_
$ getcap /bin/ping
/bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep

 -Scott

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Alan Cox wrote:

> Android 2.3.x should have a settings->accounts & sync

I do indeed have a Settings=>Accounts and sync 
and if I choose it I see my Google account,
as well as my Funambol account and a Samsung account.
The last two are greyed out.

If I choose the Google account and click on Sync Now
it indicates that it is sync-ing.
But if I now go to my Google account on my laptop
()
I do not see any change in the contacts listed.

I'm wondering if there could be some problem seeing Google Contacts
with Firefox since Google Toobox is no longer supported?

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Re: acroread 64 bit

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 12:48, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

How to get an acroread working with a 64bit machine?
If I do:
yum install nspluginwrapper.i686 AdobeReader_enu
I get
Error: Protected multilib versions: 1:cups-libs-1.5.0-22.fc16.i686 !=
1:cups-libs-1.5.2-1.fc16.x86_64
Error: Protected multilib versions: krb5-libs-1.9.2-4.fc16.i686 !=
krb5-libs-1.9.2-6.fc16.x86_64

if I install from AdbeRdr9.4.7-1_i486linux_enu.bin
Then I get an error
Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared
libraries: libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory

Thank for your help.

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I have the adobe-linux-x86_64.repo in my /etc/yum.repos.d. I think that 
is where the version of acroread on my machine came from, but so much 
has been happening I have become a bit lost with memory.


Don
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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on systemd

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 2/10/2012 12:11 PM, Claude Jones wrote:

On 2/10/2012 2:54 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:


Many thanks, I use your link as a staring point,


well, hopefully you'll be able to get past staring, and actually read 
it  ;-p  -> run



Wow, that was a pretty good typo ... thanks for the good laugh!
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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 13:07, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 02/10/2012 11:19 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/10/2012 08:10 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 11:15, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 02/10/2012 05:08 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
root. When I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)? Mine
are set to 755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin

Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to
work
as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been
"disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.


Smells like an selinux thing. Check your logs to see if you're getting
AVC denials. If so, you may need to relabel.

Rick,
Where are the seliunx messages logged? I looked in /var/log/secure
and the only thing I saw was a notice of when I used sudo to
test ping. What would I need to relabel? I am a dunce on security
issues.


They'd be in /var/log/messages if that's what's happening. You can
"touch /.autorelabel" to force a full autorelabel on reboot. That can
take some time.
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Thanks. I tried that as you had mentioned it yesterday. I tried a new 
version 3.2.3-2 of the kernel, but it will not handle my radeon chip 
set. Still at 3.1.9-1. All I touch appears broken:-(


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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on systemd

2012-02-10 Thread Claude Jones

On 2/10/2012 2:54 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:


Many thanks, I use your link as a staring point,


well, hopefully you'll be able to get past staring, and actually read it 
 ;-p  -> run


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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Rick Stevens

On 02/10/2012 11:19 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/10/2012 08:10 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 11:15, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 02/10/2012 05:08 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
root. When I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)? Mine
are set to 755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin

Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to work
as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been
"disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.


Smells like an selinux thing. Check your logs to see if you're getting
AVC denials. If so, you may need to relabel.

Rick,
Where are the seliunx messages logged? I looked in /var/log/secure and the only 
thing I saw was a notice of when I used sudo to
test ping. What would I need to relabel? I am a dunce on security issues.


They'd be in /var/log/messages if that's what's happening.  You can 
"touch /.autorelabel" to force a full autorelabel on reboot.  That can

take some time.
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Re: Cannot boot up after kernel upgrade

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/05/12 21:59, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Jean Jacques  wrote:

Nvidia and installed it by run NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run file which is
downloaded from Nvidia website.


Unfortunately, installing the download directly from Nvidia tends to
cause problems on kernel upgrades.  I strongly suggest you uninstall
that version and use the version from RPMFusion [1] instead.  It's
designed to work with Fedora and handle kernel updates appropriately.

Otherwise, you may need to reinstall the version you installed to get
it to work properly.

-T.C.

[1] http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
I have perhaps a similar problem with a radeon drover in the 3.2.3-2 
kernel. The 3.1.9-1 kernel works fine. The new kernel spews out garbled 
messages, something about failing to locate some number of pages. In the 
old days of the serial port, you could pipe these messages to another 
machine. Any suggestion on how to capture the messages, and what to do 
about the kernel distribution. Does it need a driver from RPMFusion? I 
did not see one.


Thanks
don
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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 02/10/2012 01:17 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>
>
> On 02/10/2012 11:50 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >
>> On 02/10/2012 11:07 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't
>> >> figure out.
>> >>
>> >> #/bin/bash
>> >> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
>> >> do
>> >> echo $i
>> >> done
>> >>
>> >> I expected this
>> >>
>> >> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
>> >> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> but i got this
>> >>
>> >> RSA
>> >> Secure
>> >> Server
>> >> Certification
>> >> Authority
>> >> VeriSign
>> >> Class
>> >> 1
>> >> CA
>> >> Individual
>> >> Subscriber-Persona
>> >> Not
>> >> Validated
>> >>
>> >> any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line
>> >> instead of word by word?
>>
>> Try adding:
>>
>> IFS=
>>
>> before the do command and see if that does it for you.
>>
>> Mikkel
>
> >
>
> Can't do it directly in front of the do statement, but if you put
it in front of the whole if statement, then the parsing works. *Now*
I have to research what that is doing! Thanks for making me learn
something today! :-)
>
> Kevin
>
>
Yes, I should have said to put it after #!/bin/bash.

What that does is set the parameter separator to an empty string. So
it uses the end of the line instead of space,  and new line.
You can see what it is set to by using the set command, or by
running echo $IPS. You can find it in the bash man page.

Have fun.
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Re: acroread 64 bit

2012-02-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:48:05 + (GMT), PD (Patrick) wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> How to get an acroread working with a 64bit machine?
> If I do:
> yum install nspluginwrapper.i686 AdobeReader_enu
> I get
> Error: Protected multilib versions: 1:cups-libs-1.5.0-22.fc16.i686 
> != 1:cups-libs-1.5.2-1.fc16.x86_64
> Error: Protected multilib versions: krb5-libs-1.9.2-4.fc16.i686 != 
> krb5-libs-1.9.2-6.fc16.x86_64

Could you please learn to give a few more details?

Such as querying your enabled repositories for the available package
versions?  For example, cups-libs-1.5.2-1.fc16 is from updates-testing
(and still in that repository), whereas cups-libs-1.5.0-22.fc16.i686 is an
older one. So, is the updates-testing repository enabled on your machine?
You must not enable it only temporarily when you want to install multiarch
packages.

Multiarch packages, such as cups-libs, typically are available with exactly
the same version-release for multiple architectures. That means, if you
get the "protected multilib versions" error, do query the repository (and
your local RPM database) for what is installed and what is available.
This is the most basic homework you could do. cups-libs.x86_64 and 
cups-libs.i686
are found in the same repository and are published at the same time. Normally.
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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on systemd

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 2/10/2012 5:34 AM, Claude Jones wrote:


did anyone suggest this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd
I have found it useful



Claude:

Nobody has suggested this and it looks promising. All I had found was 
the Fedora release document which seemed to assume that I was already at 
one with systemd.


Many thanks, I use your link as a staring point,
Paul
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acroread 64 bit

2012-02-10 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

How to get an acroread working with a 64bit machine?
If I do:
yum install nspluginwrapper.i686 AdobeReader_enu
I get
Error: Protected multilib versions: 1:cups-libs-1.5.0-22.fc16.i686 
!= 1:cups-libs-1.5.2-1.fc16.x86_64
Error: Protected multilib versions: krb5-libs-1.9.2-4.fc16.i686 != 
krb5-libs-1.9.2-6.fc16.x86_64


if I install from AdbeRdr9.4.7-1_i486linux_enu.bin
Then I get an error
Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared 
libraries: libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory


Thank for your help.

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Re: git

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Zeff

On 02/10/2012 10:36 AM, Don Krause wrote:

"This message represents the official view of the voices in my head."


*Snarf!*

(That's the sound a clever comment makes when it gets added to 
somebody's list of Usenet sigquotes.)

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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Zeff

On 02/10/2012 06:10 AM, don fisher wrote:

Rick,
Where are the seliunx messages logged? I looked in /var/log/secure and
the only thing I saw was a notice of when I used sudo to test ping. What
would I need to relabel? I am a dunce on security issues.


Generally, the SELinux Troubleshooter should pop up, show you the error 
message and give you instructions on how to correct the problem.  If it 
hasn't, you can find it on the System Menu and run it that way if you 
want to be sure.

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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread gerrynix


Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't figure out.

#/bin/bash

# ADD THE NEXT TWO LINES AS THE FIRST LINES BEFORE the for STATEMENT BEGINS
# There must be a new line (press Enter key) after the first single quote

IFS='
'

for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
do  
    echo $i 
done

I expected this

RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated


but i got this

RSA
Secure
Server
Certification
Authority
VeriSign
Class
1
CA
Individual
Subscriber-Persona
Not
Validated

 any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line instead of 
word by word?


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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Martin


On 02/10/2012 08:10 AM, don fisher wrote:
> On 02/10/12 11:15, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 02/10/2012 05:08 AM, don fisher wrote:
>>> On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:


 On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:
> Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
> root. When I try to ping as a user I get:
>
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
>
> There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
> was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
> add groups to my account without using system-config-users?
>
> Where are these things documented?
>
> Thanks,
> Don

 Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)? Mine
 are set to 755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

 Kevin
>>> Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to work
>>> as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been
>>> "disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.
>>
>> Smells like an selinux thing. Check your logs to see if you're getting
>> AVC denials. If so, you may need to relabel.
> Rick,
> Where are the seliunx messages logged? I looked in /var/log/secure and the 
> only thing I saw was a notice of when I used sudo to
> test ping. What would I need to relabel? I am a dunce on security issues.
>
> Thanks
> don
if you've got strace installed you could strace the execution of the ping 
command and that should show you when it fails and why as
well.

Kevin
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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Martin


On 02/10/2012 11:50 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
> On 02/10/2012 11:07 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
> >> Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't
> >> figure out.
> >>
> >> #/bin/bash
> >> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
> >> do
> >> echo $i
> >> done
> >>
> >> I expected this
> >>
> >> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
> >> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
> >>
> >>
> >> but i got this
> >>
> >> RSA
> >> Secure
> >> Server
> >> Certification
> >> Authority
> >> VeriSign
> >> Class
> >> 1
> >> CA
> >> Individual
> >> Subscriber-Persona
> >> Not
> >> Validated
> >>
> >> any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line
> >> instead of word by word?
>
> Try adding:
>
> IFS=
>
> before the do command and see if that does it for you.
>
> Mikkel

>

Can't do it directly in front of the do statement, but if you put it in front 
of the whole if statement, then the parsing works. 
*Now* I have to research what that is doing!  Thanks for making me learn 
something today!  :-)

Kevin
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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Pete Travis

> --
> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo google contacts list --title '.*' --user
> timothygayleardmur...@gmail.com


Hey Tim,

Why do you need to run this as root?

Pete
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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 11:15, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 02/10/2012 05:08 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
root. When I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)? Mine
are set to 755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin

Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to work
as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been
"disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.


Smells like an selinux thing. Check your logs to see if you're getting
AVC denials. If so, you may need to relabel.

Rick,
Where are the seliunx messages logged? I looked in /var/log/secure and 
the only thing I saw was a notice of when I used sudo to test ping. What 
would I need to relabel? I am a dunce on security issues.


Thanks
don
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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Genes MailLists wrote:

>> What do you mean by "use google sync"?
>> Are you talking about a Fedora program?
>> According to "man google" there is no option "sync".
>> Perhaps if you just wrote down the command you give or might give
>> (under Fedora), and the effect you expect it to have,
>> I would find it simpler to follow.
> 
> 
> It's a feature of all android phones - you need to put in your gmail
> account into the phone - and make sure (via settings) that you have
> allowed syncing on gthe phone. Then the phone will sync your contacts
> etc to the google cloud - from where you can also sync it back ot your
> linux machine - (a) you will see your contacts in gmail webmail app (b)
> can use googlesycn addon for thunderbird.

I have my google account on the phone,
but I am unable to sync to it.
(It is greyed out in Settings=>Accounts and sync .)
I am told I should go to Settings=>Advanced
but there is no such item on my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android 2.3.3).

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Re: git

2012-02-10 Thread Don Krause


On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Doing
> git clone git://github.com/paradoxxxzero/gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet.git
> 
> I get
> Cloning into 'gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet'...
> fatal: unable to connect to github.com:
> github.com[0: 207.97.227.239]: errno=Connection timed out
> 
> Would you knon why?
> 
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Works for me, do you have any kind of content control/blocker system that 
doesn't like the 'xxx' in the url?
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git

2012-02-10 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

Doing
git clone git://github.com/paradoxxxzero/gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet.git

I get
 Cloning into 'gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet'...
fatal: unable to connect to github.com:
github.com[0: 207.97.227.239]: errno=Connection timed out

Would you knon why?

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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Rick Stevens

On 02/10/2012 05:08 AM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as
root. When I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it
was not obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)? Mine
are set to 755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin

Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to work
as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been
"disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.


Smells like an selinux thing.  Check your logs to see if you're getting
AVC denials.  If so, you may need to relabel.
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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as root. When 
I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it was not 
obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)?  Mine are set to 
755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin
Yesterday I built a new system on another disk that allows ping to work 
as expected. My system crashed once,o a few thing must have been 
"disturbed". I was trying to figure out how t repair it.


Thanks
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Sound input problem after F15 update

2012-02-10 Thread Michael Eager

Hi --

I updated Fedora 15 a few days ago and now I don't have sound input.
The input device is a Hauppauge tuner and it is recognized:

[8.738997] snd_bt87x :09:01.1: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 
17
[8.739193] ALSA sound/pci/bt87x.c:931 bt87x0: Using board 1, analog, 
digital (rate 32000 Hz)
[8.741487] bttv: driver version 0.9.19 loaded
[8.741490] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[8.741530] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
[8.741543] bttv :09:01.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[8.741555] bttv0: Bt878 (rev 2) at :09:01.0, irq: 17, latency: 64, 
mmio: 0xf8ffe000
[8.741615] bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is 
0070:13eb
[8.741618] bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,autodetected]
[8.741650] bttv0: gpio: en=, out= in=00fb [init]
[8.744158] bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
[8.745251] IR NEC protocol handler initialized
[8.767303] microcode: CPU0 sig=0x6fb, pf=0x10, revision=0xb3
[8.783371] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 62471, rev A   , serial# 1106761
[8.783374] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FM1236 (idx 23, type 2)
[8.783377] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
[8.783379] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is TDA9850 (idx 3)
[8.783381] tveeprom 0-0050: has radio
[8.783383] bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#62471
[8.783385] bttv0: tuner type=2

Pulseaudio volume control shows the BT as an input device, but the volume
display doesn't show anything.  The playback tab only shows "System Sounds".

There is also an internal sound card which shows up in pulse audio.  When
the audio source is plugged in to this input, it does show up in the pulseaudio
volume display, but there is no sound output.

Playing audio from Rhythmbox works OK.  (When this is running, the playback
tab shows Rhythmbox.)

Any help?

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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 02/10/2012 11:07 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't
>> figure out.
>>
>> #/bin/bash
>> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
>> do
>> echo $i
>> done
>>
>> I expected this
>>
>> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
>> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
>>
>>
>> but i got this
>>
>> RSA
>> Secure
>> Server
>> Certification
>> Authority
>> VeriSign
>> Class
>> 1
>> CA
>> Individual
>> Subscriber-Persona
>> Not
>> Validated
>>
>> any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line
>> instead of word by word?
>
Try adding:

IFS=

before the do command and see if that does it for you.

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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread don fisher

On 02/10/12 08:17, Kevin Martin wrote:



On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:

Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as root. When 
I try to ping as a user I get:

ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it was not 
obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
add groups to my account without using system-config-users?

Where are these things documented?

Thanks,
Don


Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)?  Mine are set to 
755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin
My protections are the same as yours. As I read the error message, I 
think that the problem is not being able to open the socket.


ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

Thanks,
don
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Re: Error in password file?

2012-02-10 Thread Rick Stevens

On 02/10/2012 08:50 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

On 2/9/12, Rick Stevens  wrote:

On 02/09/2012 03:01 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 02/09/2012 01:38 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

On 2/9/12, Rick Stevens  wrote:

On 02/09/2012 09:31 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

On 2/9/12, Aaron Konstam  wrote:

On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 14:43 -0800, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

On 2/8/12, don fisher  wrote:

When I execute pwck to verify integrity of password files and
received
the following:

sudo pwck
user 'adm': directory '/var/adm' does not exist
user 'uucp': directory '/var/spool/uucp' does not exist
user 'gopher': directory '/var/gopher' does not exist
user 'avahi-autoipd': directory '/var/lib/avahi-autoipd' does not
exist
user 'oprofile': directory '/home/oprofile' does not exist
user 'saslauth': directory '/var/empty/saslauth' does not exist
user 'pulse': directory '/var/run/pulse' does not exist
invalid password file entry

How should this be fixed?

Don

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I don't believe every user has a directory..

I think you are "Good to GO!"

Marvin


I don't know if you are good to go but when I run: sudo pwck
on my machine except the last entry is:
pwck: no changes

instead of: invalid password file entry

so that is the output that would worry me. It seems you have an
invalid
entry in the passwd file. It would be nice if the program gave you a
hint which entry it is complaining about.

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HI

I gave my answer based on three boxes I have they yield similar
results. Not all users will have a directory.

I stand by my answer..


Yes, users do NOT have to have a home directory (especially users that
are primarily there as "owners" of daemons and such and have a shell
of /sbin/nologin).

The "invalid password file entry" error probably indicates a blank line
at the end of either /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow, so that's the first
place I'd look. Try

$ sudo vipw -p (edits /etc/passwd safely)
$ sudo vipw -s (edits /etc/shadow safely)

and check to make sure there aren't any blank lines in the files. Not
sure if pwck chokes on NIS-style entries (e.g. a username of "+")
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Thanks for the come back..

I did the vipw -p and vipw -s and they all look identical ..No blank
lines..


The question is are there any blank lines at the end? That can be
difficult to see in an editor. When using vipw, try entering ":$"
(without the quotes, just colon-dollarsign). That should put you on
the last line of the file, which should contain data. If that's a
blank line, there's your answer.

Using "cat" can also tell you something. If you (as root) do "cat
/etc/passwd", make sure that the command prompt appears IMMEDIATELY
after the data. If there's a blank line between the output and the
prompt, you have a blank line at the end of the file.

Samples:
Good (no blank line at end of file):
[root@prophead server]# cat /tmp/wook
1
2
3
4
[root@prophead server]#

Bad (blank line at end of file):
[root@prophead server]# cat /tmp/wook
1
2
3
4

[root@prophead server]# vi /tmp/wook

("/tmp/wook" is just a scratch filename I used)


Additional note, I just used vipw to add a blank line to the end of
/etc/passwd and got the same error the OP got when I ran pwck, but with
a "delete line?" prompt.  I didn't accept that and used vipw to delete
the blank and pwck ran clean.
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Hi

I am still getting the no directory thing.

But.  The second time you run pwck it gives the message..

pwck: no changes

So, I am back to my original statement..

OP is "GOOD TO GO"

I get all those no directories and don't believe they need directories..


No they don't.  Those are the users associated with daemon processes
and they don't have to have a home directory.

If you don't get the "invalid passwd entry" message, then the files are
good.  The "pwck: no changes" indicates that pwck didn't have to do
anything to the file (e.g. deleting a blank line, etc.)
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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Martin


On 02/10/2012 11:07 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote: 
>> Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't
>> figure out.
>>
>> #/bin/bash
>> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
>> do  
>> echo $i 
>> done
>>
>> I expected this
>>
>> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
>> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
>>
>>
>> but i got this
>>
>> RSA
>> Secure
>> Server
>> Certification
>> Authority
>> VeriSign
>> Class
>> 1
>> CA
>> Individual
>> Subscriber-Persona
>> Not
>> Validated
>>
>>  any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line
>> instead of word by word?
> I think you need to use echo -n for all but the last echo. 
>
You could also try:

while read a
 do
  echo $a
 done < certificates.txt

I've had unsatisfactory success with cat (cat -n didn't work for me either).

Kevin
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Re: screen resolution

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 15:15 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: 
> On 02/09/2012 02:30 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > 
>  If you don't see your 1920x1080 in there, then you can forcing it by
>  trying "xrandr --mode 1920x1080" to see if that'll bite.  If it does,
>  then you can add appropriate lines to your xorg.conf file.
> >>> tried what yoou suggest. Although man xrandr says there is a --mode
> >>> option when I run xrandr --mode I get a response that the option does
> >>> not exist. Why is that?
> >>
> >> Ah, yes.  Try "xrandr --fb 1920x1080".  I think "--mode" was for a
> >> previous version of xrandr.  Did just "xrandr" show the ability to do
> >> 1920x1080?  I'm trying to see if your monitor or cable just isn't
> >> reporting the EDID info properly.
> > I am not the original poster but I was just trying this method to
> > configure my screen. In my case 1280x1024. When I ran:
> > xrandr --fb 1289x1024
> > I got the error message:
> > xrandr: Failed to get the size of gamma for output default.
> >
> > What does that mean?
> 
> I've been playing with this.  First off, do "xrandr" all by itself to
> find out what your outputs are called.  In my case, here's what I see:
> 
> [root@prophead ~]# xrandr
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
> DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
> axis) 598mm x 336mm
> 1920x1080  60.0*+   60.0
> 1600x1200  60.0
> 1680x1050  60.0
> 1280x1024  75.0 60.0
> 1440x900   59.9
> 1280x960   60.0
> 1152x864   75.0
> 1024x768   75.1 70.1 60.0
> 832x62474.6
> 800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
> 640x48072.8 75.0 66.7 60.0
> 720x40070.1
> DVI-I-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 
> So, I actually have two outputs, one called "DVI-I-1" (which is the
> active one and is currently in 1920x1080 mode) and "DVI-I-2" (which
> isn't hooked up to a monitor right now).  My active monitor can handle
> all the modes listed below it.  To change to 1600x1200 mode:
> 
>   xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1600x1200
> 
> I just did this on my laptop (F16) to prove the concept and it did
> work.  The missing gamma thing is because you didn't specify an output,
> and the "--mode" does work, but only when "--output" is also specified.
> 
> I should read the man pages more thoroughly myself.  Sorry if I
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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote: 
> Hi everyone, I was creating a script and i found something i can't
> figure out.
> 
> #/bin/bash
> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
> do  
> echo $i 
> done
> 
> I expected this
> 
> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
> 
> 
> but i got this
> 
> RSA
> Secure
> Server
> Certification
> Authority
> VeriSign
> Class
> 1
> CA
> Individual
> Subscriber-Persona
> Not
> Validated
> 
>  any ideas how to fix this? i mean, how can i get the whole line
> instead of word by word?
I think you need to use echo -n for all but the last echo. 
> 


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Re: Error in password file?

2012-02-10 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 2/9/12, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 02/09/2012 03:01 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 02/09/2012 01:38 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> On 2/9/12, Rick Stevens wrote:
 On 02/09/2012 09:31 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> On 2/9/12, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 14:43 -0800, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> On 2/8/12, don fisher wrote:
 When I execute pwck to verify integrity of password files and
 received
 the following:

 sudo pwck
 user 'adm': directory '/var/adm' does not exist
 user 'uucp': directory '/var/spool/uucp' does not exist
 user 'gopher': directory '/var/gopher' does not exist
 user 'avahi-autoipd': directory '/var/lib/avahi-autoipd' does not
 exist
 user 'oprofile': directory '/home/oprofile' does not exist
 user 'saslauth': directory '/var/empty/saslauth' does not exist
 user 'pulse': directory '/var/run/pulse' does not exist
 invalid password file entry

 How should this be fixed?

 Don

 --

>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I don't believe every user has a directory..
>>>
>>> I think you are "Good to GO!"
>>>
>>> Marvin
>>
>> I don't know if you are good to go but when I run: sudo pwck
>> on my machine except the last entry is:
>> pwck: no changes
>>
>> instead of: invalid password file entry
>>
>> so that is the output that would worry me. It seems you have an
>> invalid
>> entry in the passwd file. It would be nice if the program gave you a
>> hint which entry it is complaining about.
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
> HI
>
> I gave my answer based on three boxes I have they yield similar
> results. Not all users will have a directory.
>
> I stand by my answer..

 Yes, users do NOT have to have a home directory (especially users that
 are primarily there as "owners" of daemons and such and have a shell
 of /sbin/nologin).

 The "invalid password file entry" error probably indicates a blank line
 at the end of either /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow, so that's the first
 place I'd look. Try

 $ sudo vipw -p (edits /etc/passwd safely)
 $ sudo vipw -s (edits /etc/shadow safely)

 and check to make sure there aren't any blank lines in the files. Not
 sure if pwck chokes on NIS-style entries (e.g. a username of "+")
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>>>
>>> Thanks for the come back..
>>>
>>> I did the vipw -p and vipw -s and they all look identical ..No blank
>>> lines..
>>
>> The question is are there any blank lines at the end? That can be
>> difficult to see in an editor. When using vipw, try entering ":$"
>> (without the quotes, just colon-dollarsign). That should put you on
>> the last line of the file, which should contain data. If that's a
>> blank line, there's your answer.
>>
>> Using "cat" can also tell you something. If you (as root) do "cat
>> /etc/passwd", make sure that the command prompt appears IMMEDIATELY
>> after the data. If there's a blank line between the output and the
>> prompt, you have a blank line at the end of the file.
>>
>> Samples:
>> Good (no blank line at end of file):
>> [root@prophead server]# cat /tmp/wook
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> 4
>> [root@prophead server]#
>>
>> Bad (blank line at end of file):
>> [root@prophead server]# cat /tmp/wook
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> 4
>>
>> [root@prophead server]# vi /tmp/wook
>>
>> ("/tmp/wook" is just a scratch filename I used)
>
> Additional note, I just used vipw to add a blank line to the end of
> /etc/passwd and got the same error the OP got when I ran pwck, but with
> a "delete line?" prompt.  I didn't accept that and used vipw to delete
> the blank and pwck ran clean.
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Re: [389-users] replication failure - clock skew

2012-02-10 Thread Rich Megginson

On 02/10/2012 09:07 AM, Greg Kuchyt wrote:

On 02/09/2012 03:03 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 02/09/2012 12:52 PM, Greg Kuchyt wrote:

On 02/09/2012 02:38 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 02/09/2012 12:23 PM, Greg Kuchyt wrote:

Yesterday afternoon, one of my consumers randomly crashed/rebooted.
Upon rebooting, its replication agreement with its master failed with
the following error:

Unable to acquire replica: Excessive clock skew between the supplier
and the consumer. Replication is aborting

I did a little bit of Google searching and found some list traffic
from a few years ago. From that I derived that this replica was hosed
and I would need to re-initialize it. No problem. A re-initialization
didn't do anything, same error. Starting from scratch from a
completely new/fresh replica produces the same result. That's when I
noticed the following errors in the logs on the master.

csngen_new_csn - Warning: too much time skew (-115319 secs). Current
seqnum=1

I downloaded the readNsState.py script attached to the following
ticket (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233642). Running
this on the master produced the following output

For replica cn=replica,cn=o\3Dpotsdam.edu,cn=mapping tree,cn=config
len of nsstate is 40
CSN generator state:
Replica ID : 6560
Sampled Time : 1328928777
Time in hex : 0x4f35d809
Time as str : Fri Feb 10 21:52:57 2012
Local Offset : 0
Remote Offset : 261
Seq. num : 1
System time : Thu Feb 9 14:00:01 2012
Diff in sec. : -114776

This leads me to believe that the clock skew problem is on the 
master.


I am not really sure how the clock skew happened. All of these 
systems

synchronize their clocks via a centralized time server and all the
times on their clocks are correct. There are 3 or 4 other replicas
that are still receiving incremental updates fine, but any attempt to
add a new replica results in a failed replication agreement due to
excessive clock skew.

I am writing to get a better understanding of the situation and 
see if

there is anything to be done to resolve this. At the moment it seems
as if I am caught in an unfortunate situation that will require
re-initialization of my master from a back-up.

Thanks for any help that can be provided.

What is your 389-ds-base version and platform?

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Rich,

The master and a few replicas are running on Scientific Linux 6.1
x86_64. Here, we're using the stock packages along with the modified
389-ds-base packages in your fedorapoeople.org repo. So that puts it
at 1.2.9.9-1 for 389-ds-base I believe.

Two replicas (including the one that rebooted/failed) are on Fedora 12
x86_64 and their 389-ds-base is 1.2.5-1.

There was a known problem with clock skew calculation and handling in
1.2.5 - please try upgrading everything to 1.2.9.9. I realize fedora 12
is no longer supported.


Let me know what other info you need. Thanks.
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Rich,
The F12 systems were in production and were slated for replacement by 
SL 6.1 systems. I just took the F12 systems out of the mix rather than 
upgrade them, so everything is now SL 6.1 and 389-ds-base 1.2.9.9.


When attempting to add a new replica I still see the following in the 
error logs on the master.


"Unable to acquire replica: Excessive clock skew between the supplier 
and the consumer. Replication is aborting."


As well, I am seeing a lot of these messages in the logs on the master.

"csngen_new_csn - Warning: too much time skew (-123525 secs). Current 
seqnum=1"

Are your clocks on the servers all in sync?

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Re: [389-users] replication failure - clock skew

2012-02-10 Thread Greg Kuchyt

On 02/09/2012 03:03 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 02/09/2012 12:52 PM, Greg Kuchyt wrote:

On 02/09/2012 02:38 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 02/09/2012 12:23 PM, Greg Kuchyt wrote:

Yesterday afternoon, one of my consumers randomly crashed/rebooted.
Upon rebooting, its replication agreement with its master failed with
the following error:

Unable to acquire replica: Excessive clock skew between the supplier
and the consumer. Replication is aborting

I did a little bit of Google searching and found some list traffic
from a few years ago. From that I derived that this replica was hosed
and I would need to re-initialize it. No problem. A re-initialization
didn't do anything, same error. Starting from scratch from a
completely new/fresh replica produces the same result. That's when I
noticed the following errors in the logs on the master.

csngen_new_csn - Warning: too much time skew (-115319 secs). Current
seqnum=1

I downloaded the readNsState.py script attached to the following
ticket (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233642). Running
this on the master produced the following output

For replica cn=replica,cn=o\3Dpotsdam.edu,cn=mapping tree,cn=config
len of nsstate is 40
CSN generator state:
Replica ID : 6560
Sampled Time : 1328928777
Time in hex : 0x4f35d809
Time as str : Fri Feb 10 21:52:57 2012
Local Offset : 0
Remote Offset : 261
Seq. num : 1
System time : Thu Feb 9 14:00:01 2012
Diff in sec. : -114776

This leads me to believe that the clock skew problem is on the master.

I am not really sure how the clock skew happened. All of these systems
synchronize their clocks via a centralized time server and all the
times on their clocks are correct. There are 3 or 4 other replicas
that are still receiving incremental updates fine, but any attempt to
add a new replica results in a failed replication agreement due to
excessive clock skew.

I am writing to get a better understanding of the situation and see if
there is anything to be done to resolve this. At the moment it seems
as if I am caught in an unfortunate situation that will require
re-initialization of my master from a back-up.

Thanks for any help that can be provided.

What is your 389-ds-base version and platform?

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Rich,

The master and a few replicas are running on Scientific Linux 6.1
x86_64. Here, we're using the stock packages along with the modified
389-ds-base packages in your fedorapoeople.org repo. So that puts it
at 1.2.9.9-1 for 389-ds-base I believe.

Two replicas (including the one that rebooted/failed) are on Fedora 12
x86_64 and their 389-ds-base is 1.2.5-1.

There was a known problem with clock skew calculation and handling in
1.2.5 - please try upgrading everything to 1.2.9.9. I realize fedora 12
is no longer supported.


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Rich,
The F12 systems were in production and were slated for replacement by SL 
6.1 systems. I just took the F12 systems out of the mix rather than 
upgrade them, so everything is now SL 6.1 and 389-ds-base 1.2.9.9.


When attempting to add a new replica I still see the following in the 
error logs on the master.


"Unable to acquire replica: Excessive clock skew between the supplier 
and the consumer. Replication is aborting."


As well, I am seeing a lot of these messages in the logs on the master.

"csngen_new_csn - Warning: too much time skew (-123525 secs). Current 
seqnum=1"

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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 10.02.2012 16:14, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>> you are a simple desktop-user with your stuff
>> in /home, if you are develop software and
>> integrate workflows in a system for managment
>> and so on /home does not interest you much
> 
> I don't understand this.
> Do you mean you don't have a separate /home partition?
> Don't you get any email?
> (I keep my email in ~/Maildir/ on my server.)

on a webserver? no!

i mean that /home and the datadrive at all is
the smallest problem, configurations and well
thought and over years polished automation
are the things which are the hard work

 a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
 two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
 repo-cache
>>>
>>> What is the script?
>>> It seems to me it would have to be pretty complicated.
>>> I certainly wouldn't trust any script I wrote to do this.
>>
>> * prepare the dist-upgrade
>> * test it with snapshots
>> * rebuild weak packages (missing unit-files, dependencie problems..)
>> * build up an internal repo
>> * have all machines ONLY this repo as source
>> * have all machines cloned from the same master
>> * have all machines exepct the repo-cache never seen external repos
> 
> This illustrates the difference between us.
> It would take me at least 2 days to do the above, not 2 hours.
> And when I had done it I would have zero confidence it would work.
> In fact I would put money on it not working.

and i put money that it works if i do it because i
am there since because i did this six times and it
worked form the first time perfectly, it is well
proven that it works and i am responsible for more
than 500 domains and all sort of services you can
imagine

but this is the differnce between me and many developers
out there - i know my respsonibility for the things i do
and and do never release half baken things to my users

and yes, i am developer too maintaning a whole cms-system
with > 200 instances on the mainserver and this does
alos get DAILY updates with one click as rolling release
and if i change things needing config-changes i am
responsible to prepare this and i do this since
nearly ten years with no mistake producing more
than a handfull php-warnings while error_reoprting
E_ALL + E_STRICT + E_DEPRECATED is active on ALL
machines

so there is a differnece how pepole act and seeing how fedora currently
acts makes people like me simply sad and angry
_

yes it takes 2 days to prepare

but it takes me two days for every single machine reinstall it
and restore all sort of configurations, scripts, cronjobs

so with 20 machines it would take me around 40 days resinstall
them, so it takes me two days upgrade them all, having in mind
that each dist-upgrade would take 40 days this would take
at least 80 days each year for fresh installs - unacceptable

4 days for two distupgrades are nothing
AND the infrastructure is growable!

it does not bother me if i have 20, 30 or 40 servers
they can be all maintained the same way, there are perfectly
wroking scripts on the admin-machine to start each sort of
commands / scripts on the production hosts to deploy and maintain
anything

but this does only work as long fedora is not destroying
the distribution slowly




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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/10/2012 09:37 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

>>   Just use google sync like most people.
> 
> What do you mean by "use google sync"?
> Are you talking about a Fedora program?
> According to "man google" there is no option "sync".
> Perhaps if you just wrote down the command you give or might give 
> (under Fedora), and the effect you expect it to have,
> I would find it simpler to follow.


It's a feature of all android phones - you need to put in your gmail
account into the phone - and make sure (via settings) that you have
allowed syncing on gthe phone. Then the phone will sync your contacts
etc to the google cloud - from where you can also sync it back ot your
linux machine - (a) you will see your contacts in gmail webmail app (b)
can use googlesycn addon for thunderbird.

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Cronenworth wrote:

>> But by "sync" do you mean transfer from Google to the phone?
>> Actually, my first wish - I didn't make this clear -
>> is to transfer contacts from the phone to my computer or to google.
>> I don't know how to do this.
> 
> No. You can sync your phone with Google.

How exactly (or even roughly) do you do this?
Assuming you have an Android phone,
and have transferred contacts from the phone to your Google account,
could you tell me, please, what commands you gave on your phone
or on your Google account.

> That means, literally, that
> your phone will sync your contacts, and whatever else, with your Google
> account.

I don't know the literal meaning of the term "sync",
unless it is a synonym for "synchronization",
which I take to mean in this context
that the data in two places is made the same.

> This will make all your data visible from a web browser on
> google.com (gmail for contacts, calendar, etc.). If you make changes on
> google.com and sync with your phone those changes will be reflected on
> your phone.

I'm talking about going in the opposite direction - from phone to Google.

>> Also, I'm a KDE user, though I guess anything in Gnome
>> probably have an equivalent somewhere in KDE.
> 
> A quick Google search turned this up:
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=61649

Which contribution to this did you find relevant?
It seems to be a litany of people who are, or were, trying to do
more or less the same as me, but who failed in much the same way.

The only usefuly piece of information I saw there was that
"KDE 4.4 will contain a KContactManager",
which I cannot find on my KDE 4.7.4

[tim@blanche ~]$ KContactManager
bash: KContactManager: command not found
[tim@blanche ~]$ locate KContactManager
[tim@blanche ~]$ 


> No, I literally meant sync. Not "sync".
Non capito.
Non compris.
Ich verstehe nicht.
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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:46:50 +
Timothy Murphy  wrote:

> Genes MailLists wrote:
> 
> >> Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
> >> to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
> >> But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean
> >> "transfer from A to B".
> > 
> >   It does keep the 2 in sync - sounds lke you turned off the sync part
> > in your phone - otherwise all your contacts would be visible in gmail
> > contacts via browser. If thats the case just turn sync back on on your
> > phone and you're done.
> 
> I haven't turned anything on or off on the phone.
> Do you have an Android phone?
> I have been advised that I should go to Settings=>Advanced on the phone,
> but there is no such item on my phone in the Settings menu.
> (The phone is a Samsung Galaxy S2, running Android 2.3.3 .)
> I'm running the application Funambol Sync .

Android 2.3.x should have a settings->accounts & sync

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Re: icmp Operation not permitted message on ping

2012-02-10 Thread Kevin Martin


On 02/09/2012 03:20 PM, don fisher wrote:
> Sorry to be back again. My mail and browser work, and I can ping as root. 
> When I try to ping as a user I get:
>
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
>
> There is probably a group that I need to add to my profile, but it was not 
> obvious to me. Suggestions welcome. Is there a way to
> add groups to my account without using system-config-users?
>
> Where are these things documented?
>
> Thanks,
> Don

Don, what are the permissions on /bin/ping (ls -al /bin/ping)?  Mine are set to 
755 (-rwxr-xr-x) and ping works for me as non-root.

Kevin
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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Jeffrey Ross
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:38:07 +
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
>> I just want to transfer contacts from my PIM/AddressBook to my phone,
>> and vice versa.
>> But this appears to be impossible?
>
> If you can export contacts in VCARD format you can then import
> the VCARD file from the Contacts app on the phone, but beware
> they will all be invisible till you search for and find the
> settings buried down in some menu I've forgotten how to find
> that says to make locally stored contacts visible as well as
> contacts synced from google.

I too have thought about moving contacts in and out of my phone, but not
just an Android phone (I have the Wife's and kid's phones too).

I know my car (Ford's Sync product) downloads my phonebook via Bluetooth
"PBAP" and I've made a few half-hearted  attempts at looking into this to
on Fedora but have never been successful and didn't spend much time doing
so, partly because I have easy access to a CellBrite unit which downloads
everything for me.

I believe PBAP allows you to not only download from the phone but to
upload to the phone as well, plus I'm guessing that most if not all modern
cell phones with Bluetooth have this capability.

I guess an avenue to solve the problem exists, the question is, is it
possible to get PBAP to work on Fedora/Linux?

Jeff

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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote:

>>> sorry, but permanently reinstall the OS is a windows-thing
>>> and especially unnaceptable if all 6 months a new version
>>> is available and you have to maintain 2, 5, 10, 20 machines
>> 
>> I don't agree - at least if one has 2 or 5 machines to deal with.
>> I always do a fresh install on a new partition,
>> leaving the /home partition untouched.
>> (I don't think this is a "Windows thing";
>> I don't even know if it is possible under Windows.)
> 
> you are a simple desktop-user with your stuff
> in /home, if you are develop software and
> integrate workflows in a system for managment
> and so on /home does not interest you much

I don't understand this.
Do you mean you don't have a separate /home partition?
Don't you get any email?
(I keep my email in ~/Maildir/ on my server.)

>>> a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
>>> two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
>>> repo-cache
>> 
>> What is the script?
>> It seems to me it would have to be pretty complicated.
>> I certainly wouldn't trust any script I wrote to do this.
> 
> * prepare the dist-upgrade
> * test it with snapshots
> * rebuild weak packages (missing unit-files, dependencie problems..)
> * build up an internal repo
> * have all machines ONLY this repo as source
> * have all machines cloned from the same master
> * have all machines exepct the repo-cache never seen external repos

This illustrates the difference between us.
It would take me at least 2 days to do the above, not 2 hours.
And when I had done it I would have zero confidence it would work.
In fact I would put money on it not working.

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>> But by "sync" do you mean transfer from Google to the phone?
>> Actually, my first wish - I didn't make this clear -
>> is to transfer contacts from the phone to my computer or to google.
>> I don't know how to do this.
>
>
> No. You can sync your phone with Google. That means, literally, that your
> phone will sync your contacts, and whatever else, with your Google account.
> This will make all your data visible from a web browser on google.com (gmail
> for contacts, calendar, etc.). If you make changes on google.com and sync
> with your phone those changes will be reflected on your phone.
>
>
>> Also, I'm a KDE user, though I guess anything in Gnome
>> probably have an equivalent somewhere in KDE.
>
>
> A quick Google search turned this up:
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=61649

The developer of this regularly builds RPMS for F15-16 too:
http://www.progdan.cz/2011/11/akonadi-google-resource-whats-comming/

>> Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
>> to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
>> But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean
>> "transfer from A to B"
>
>
> No, I literally meant sync. Not "sync".

-T.C.
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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Genes MailLists wrote:

>> Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
>> to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
>> But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean
>> "transfer from A to B".
> 
>   It does keep the 2 in sync - sounds lke you turned off the sync part
> in your phone - otherwise all your contacts would be visible in gmail
> contacts via browser. If thats the case just turn sync back on on your
> phone and you're done.

I haven't turned anything on or off on the phone.
Do you have an Android phone?
I have been advised that I should go to Settings=>Advanced on the phone,
but there is no such item on my phone in the Settings menu.
(The phone is a Samsung Galaxy S2, running Android 2.3.3 .)
I'm running the application Funambol Sync .

For some reason, keeping contacts under Fedora/KDE is a nightmare for me.
I want to have one contacts list which I can reach on any computer,
so I keeping my contacts under OpenLDAP on my server.
If there is an alternative I would be interested to hear of it.

Sadly, Windows scores 9/10 in this area, while Fedora scores 1/10 .


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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Genes MailLists wrote:

>> I see that this program is far from my needs or desires.
>> I just want to transfer contacts from Fedoar/KDE PIM to my Android phone,
>> and vice versa.
>> Is this possible under Fedora, or do I have to go over to Windows?

>   Just use google sync like most people.

What do you mean by "use google sync"?
Are you talking about a Fedora program?
According to "man google" there is no option "sync".
Perhaps if you just wrote down the command you give or might give 
(under Fedora), and the effect you expect it to have,
I would find it simpler to follow.

Actually, I have some success with
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[tim@blanche ~]$ sudo google contacts list --title '.*' --user
timothygayleardmur...@gmail.com
Please log in and/or grant access at 
https://www.google.com/accounts/OAuthAuthorizeToken?oauth_token=4%2Fe1gGv73PZ9L9rgxCwT7gLrAJEYtd&hd=default

Please enter the verification code on the success page: ***
Timothy Murphy,t...@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
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>KDE/PIM I don't use but hopefully any modern addressbook would have
> sync ability - if KDE/PIM has no sync ability then of course it wont
> work - you can of course use thunderbird to do it and export it for
> re-import ... and vice versa ...

Unfortunately, KAddressBook does not at present appear to be working,
though it does have a facility to import CSV data,
so I guess I could use that to transfer my contacts list from Google.

Actually, I keep all my contacts at present under OpenLDAP,
which KAddressBook is able to access when it is working.

>   that said if the tool doesn't do what you need you're using the wrong
> tool no?

I was advised to use googlecl on this newsgroup.
It probably is part of what I need,
but its documentation is very bad, even by Fedora standards.
I find the statement in /usr/share/doc/googlcl*/README.txt
"If you have no idea what this project is or is about, 
poke around on our home page at http://code.google.com/p/googlecl.";
slightly offensive, apart from being useless since the home page 
is even worse.

Sadly, my experience is that any documentation associated with Google
is likely to be difficult to follow and time-consuming,
as the authors appear to want to show how clever they are
instead of communicating basic information.



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Re: pam configuration for mobile one-time-password

2012-02-10 Thread Gergely Buday
By using a non-root userid it works. So the problem was with using
root in motp.conf. Sorry to bother the list with this but there is no
mailing list for the mobile one-time-password project.

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Thanks for your response.
But by "sync" do you mean transfer from Google to the phone?
Actually, my first wish - I didn't make this clear -
is to transfer contacts from the phone to my computer or to google.
I don't know how to do this.


No. You can sync your phone with Google. That means, literally, that 
your phone will sync your contacts, and whatever else, with your Google 
account. This will make all your data visible from a web browser on 
google.com (gmail for contacts, calendar, etc.). If you make changes on 
google.com and sync with your phone those changes will be reflected on 
your phone.



Also, I'm a KDE user, though I guess anything in Gnome
probably have an equivalent somewhere in KDE.


A quick Google search turned this up:
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=61649


Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean
"transfer from A to B"


No, I literally meant sync. Not "sync".
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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 10.02.2012 14:43, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>> sorry, but permanently reinstall the OS is a windows-thing
>> and especially unnaceptable if all 6 months a new version
>> is available and you have to maintain 2, 5, 10, 20 machines
> 
> I don't agree - at least if one has 2 or 5 machines to deal with.
> I always do a fresh install on a new partition, 
> leaving the /home partition untouched.
> (I don't think this is a "Windows thing";
> I don't even know if it is possible under Windows.)

you are a simple desktop-user with your stuff
in /home, if you are develop software and
integrate workflows in a system for managment
and so on /home does not interest you much

> One reason is that in my experience there is a non-zero probability
> that the new version will not work, perhaps because of a driver problem.
> In fact I would guess that over all the Fedora systems I have installed
> there has been a 25% initial failure@machine rate,
> usually to do with video card drivers.
> 
>> a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
>> two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
>> repo-cache
> 
> What is the script?
> It seems to me it would have to be pretty complicated.
> I certainly wouldn't trust any script I wrote to do this.

* prepare the dist-upgrade
* test it with snapshots
* rebuild weak packages (missing unit-files, dependencie problems..)
* build up an internal repo
* have all machines ONLY this repo as source
* have all machines cloned from the same master
* have all machines exepct the repo-cache never seen external repos

after that you can test a dist-upgrade until your finger bleeds
and you are knowing EXACTLY what will happen on the live-machine

you can prepare even configurations for services before
rollout - again you know exatly what happens, what have
to be prepared and what excatly commands you have to type
after the dist-upgrade before the reboot and put
them in a script on each target machine
_

finally a simple shell scipt
"ssh root@taget-machine1 'yum -y commands; /finish-script.sh"
"ssh root@taget-machine2 'yum -y commands; /finish-script.sh"
"ssh root@taget-machine 3'yum -y commands; /finish-script.sh"
_

i have done my homework in 2008 and planned a working infrastructure
where new servers are cloned from the same master and i did EVERY
dist-upgrade (F10, F11, F12, F13, F14) this way without a single
problem because i know what i am doing and holding my machines clean

and that is why my understanding breaking this in one or
the other way is simply not existent and called an unacceptable
step backwards, and yes i have a VOIP-Server which has seen every
single update since FC7 until F15 via yum because as said i
know what i am doing and i take the time to prepare things
well BEFORE they are needed

that is also the reason for my non existing understanding
for put dumb service restarts on yum update in every package
instead a global 0/1 setting forxing me tu rebuild each
damned server-package and bringing no benefit at all because
it is not well thought believing in better security doing
this automaticallyl in the case of security updates not realizing
that this would as example not help if a php-security update
arrives which does not restart httpd, or a gd-library update
fixing security bugs and affecting all sorts of other packages
including php and at least apache

such things are low-brained decisions without looking
at the big picture



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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote:

> sorry, but permanently reinstall the OS is a windows-thing
> and especially unnaceptable if all 6 months a new version
> is available and you have to maintain 2, 5, 10, 20 machines

I don't agree - at least if one has 2 or 5 machines to deal with.
I always do a fresh install on a new partition, 
leaving the /home partition untouched.
(I don't think this is a "Windows thing";
I don't even know if it is possible under Windows.)

One reason is that in my experience there is a non-zero probability
that the new version will not work, perhaps because of a driver problem.
In fact I would guess that over all the Fedora systems I have installed
there has been a 25% initial failure rate,
usually to do with video card drivers.

> a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
> two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
> repo-cache

What is the script?
It seems to me it would have to be pretty complicated.
I certainly wouldn't trust any script I wrote to do this.

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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread John Mellor
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
> . . .
> #/bin/bash
> for i in $(cat certificates.txt)
> do  
> echo $i 
> done

The problem is caused by the expected behaviour of the $(cat) construct
being fed into a for loop.  It will use the current word separator to
split the text file into separate single-word lines for each word, which
is what lots of people want, but not what you expect in your situation.

Instead, use the read command like:

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do  
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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on systemd

2012-02-10 Thread Claude Jones

On 02/10/2012 02:03 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

On 2/8/2012 10:26 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

.

Is there anything resembling a single doc/html/post/whatever that can
be used as a reference point to try to begin to understand what all
this entails (hopefully that assumes systemd is something new to learn
rather than "of course you understand" which glosses over the
"understand" issue).

Thanks in advance,
Paul


I am grateful for all the responses on F17 "new/moved filesystems".

I didn't get any replies on this and wanted to repost. If the answer is
"go figure out yourself", that's cool ... I am just hoping for some
guidance in understanding this issue


did anyone suggest this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd
I have found it useful

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/10/2012 07:21 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> 
>> On 02/09/2012 07:38 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>> I just want to transfer contacts from my PIM/AddressBook to my phone,
>>> and vice versa.
>>> But this appears to be impossible?
>>
>> Can you not sync with Google and then sync using "Contacts" in Gnome 3?
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> But by "sync" do you mean transfer from Google to the phone?
> Actually, my first wish - I didn't make this clear -
> is to transfer contacts from the phone to my computer or to google.
> I don't know how to do this.
> Also, I'm a KDE user, though I guess anything in Gnome
> probably have an equivalent somewhere in KDE.
> 
> Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
> to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
> But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean 
> "transfer from A to B".
> 

  It does keep the 2 in sync - sounds lke you turned off the sync part
in your phone - otherwise all your contacts would be visible in gmail
contacts via browser. If thats the case just turn sync back on on your
phone and you're done.


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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/10/2012 07:08 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I see that this program is far from my needs or desires.
> I just want to transfer contacts from Fedoar/KDE PIM to my Android phone,
> and vice versa.
> Is this possible under Fedora, or do I have to go over to Windows?
> 
> 

  Just use google sync like most people.

  With thunderbird you can use the googlesync addon to sync contacts
with gmail.

   KDE/PIM I don't use but hopefully any modern addressbook would have
sync ability - if KDE/PIM has no sync ability then of course it wont
work - you can of course use thunderbird to do it and export it for
re-import ... and vice versa ...

  that said if the tool doesn't do what you need you're using the wrong
tool no?


   gene

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Dick Roark wrote:

>> I just want to transfer contacts from my PIM/AddressBook to my phone,
>> and vice versa.
>> But this appears to be impossible?

> Have you tried moving the addresses to the SD card (assuming your phone
> has one) and them transferring them to the computer vis USB?

Thanks for your response.

Actually, I haven't yet inserted an SD card into the phone,
though the phone does have that facility.
I do see some comments on transferring data to the SD card,
so your suggestion may well be the way to go.
I shall pursue the matter.

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Re: Android-tools

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> On 02/09/2012 07:38 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I just want to transfer contacts from my PIM/AddressBook to my phone,
>> and vice versa.
>> But this appears to be impossible?
> 
> Can you not sync with Google and then sync using "Contacts" in Gnome 3?

Thanks for your response.
But by "sync" do you mean transfer from Google to the phone?
Actually, my first wish - I didn't make this clear -
is to transfer contacts from the phone to my computer or to google.
I don't know how to do this.
Also, I'm a KDE user, though I guess anything in Gnome
probably have an equivalent somewhere in KDE.

Incidentally, I've always assumed that the word "sync" meant
to make the data in two places, eg phone and computer, the same.
But it seems to be used in this context simply to mean 
"transfer from A to B".

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Re: Googlecl

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rick Stevens wrote:

>> According to the README.txt in /usr/share/doc/
>> "If you have no idea what this project is or is about,
>> poke around on our home page at http://code.google.com/p/googlecl.";
>>
>> I have done that, and I still have no idea
>> what the project is or is about.
>>
>> Could some kind soul explain to me gently
>> exactly what commands he/she gave,
>> and what effect they had ...
> 
> They're command-line tools for google apps like picasa and such.  You
> probably don't need them unless you want to do things such as posting
> videos to Youtube, copy a bunch of photos to picasa, or add entries to
> your Google calendar via shell scripts.  I'd guess 90% of people have
> no use for these...they'd rather use the GUI equivalents via their
> browsers.

Thank you.

I see that this program is far from my needs or desires.
I just want to transfer contacts from Fedoar/KDE PIM to my Android phone,
and vice versa.
Is this possible under Fedora, or do I have to go over to Windows?


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pam configuration for mobile one-time-password

2012-02-10 Thread Gergely Buday
Hi,

I am trying to configure mobile one-time-password so that ssh
authenticates with that. See

http://motp.sourceforge.net/

for details. I was suggested to add

auth   sufficient   /lib64/security/pam_mobile_otp.so not_set_pass
password   required /lib64/security/pam_mobile_otp.so debug
accountrequired /lib64/security/pam_mobile_otp.so

to the beginning of /etc/pam.d/sshd . But it is not clear how should I
rewrite the default rest. Simply leaving the rest intact I get the
following behaviour: upon bad passcode I get "passcode not accepted"
in /var/log/messages. Upon good code nothing appears there, but the
login does not happen. What sequence of pam shared objects should run
on fedora 16 to make the login happen? Or, how should I rewrite the
lines below to make it work? I tried several variations but in vain.

Here is the rest of /etc/pam.d/sshd :

auth  required pam_sepermit.so
auth   substack password-auth
auth   include  postlogin
accountrequired pam_nologin.so
accountinclude  password-auth
password   include  password-auth
# pam_selinux.so close should be the first session rule
sessionrequired pam_selinux.so close
sessionrequired pam_loginuid.so
# pam_selinux.so open should only be followed by sessions to be
executed in the user context
sessionrequired pam_selinux.so open env_params
sessionoptional pam_keyinit.so force revoke
sessioninclude  password-auth
sessioninclude  postlogin

where postlogin is empty, and password-auth is

#%PAM-1.0
# This file is auto-generated.
# User changes will be destroyed the next time authconfig is run.
authrequired  pam_env.so
authsufficientpam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass
authrequisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 1000 quiet
authrequired  pam_deny.so

account required  pam_unix.so
account sufficientpam_localuser.so
account sufficientpam_succeed_if.so uid < 1000 quiet
account required  pam_permit.so

passwordrequisite pam_cracklib.so try_first_pass retry=3 type=
passwordsufficientpam_unix.so sha512 shadow nullok
try_first_pass use_authtok
passwordrequired  pam_deny.so

session optional  pam_keyinit.so revoke
session required  pam_limits.so
-session optional  pam_systemd.so
session [success=1 default=ignore] pam_succeed_if.so service in
crond quiet use_uid
session required  pam_unix.so

- Gergely
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Re: Yum and Fedora 16

2012-02-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/09/2012 02:13 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 05:10:40 +0100,
   Ralf Corsepius  wrote:

Unless things will fundamentally change with the way this usrmove
stuff is implemented or FESCO reconsiders their mistake, you likely
won't be able to yum-upgrade to it.

yum upgrade should work, but there will be some extra steps you need to do
before actually running yum to do the upgrade.

Then, this should resolving this be a release blocking bug, IMO.

Ralf

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Re: security spin

2012-02-10 Thread Gergely Buday
> Andre Robatino  fedoraproject.org> writes:
>
>> Does it seem like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754857 ? If so,
>> you could work around it by increasing the VM's HDD space (KVM's default is 8
>> GB).
>
> Ignore this. You already ruled it out, sorry.

No, this was. My whole disk was 15G, but having the space on /home and
/usr partition the pure root partition had only 6G, and that was not
enough. I created a 8G root partition, and allocated disk space to the
/home and /usr partitions. Doing so the install was successful, albeit
at the end the installer said that it was resizing some partition on
the fly.

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Re: Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

2012-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 10.02.2012 08:35, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 02/09/2012 01:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> so tame one seocond and imagine how it should work
>> copy all this files and maintain them twice with yum
>>
>> sorry, but this makes no sense at all
> 
> Whoever said that the old versions were to be maintained?  My thought was 
> that they might 
> be sitting there, unused, wasting disk space.

well, i am frustrated about the way radical changes are done
in fedora with closed eyes and trough the wall the last releases
but this is a impossible expectation because no one ever would
act in such a stupid ay - really this is unthinkable from
any pint of view



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Re: bash script regular expression

2012-02-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 23:31 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
> I expected this
> RSA Secure Server Certification Authority
> VeriSign Class 1 CA Individual Subscriber-Persona Not Validated
> but i got this
> RSA
> Secure
> Server
> Certification
> Authority
> VeriSign
> Class
> 1
> CA
> Individual
> Subscriber-Persona
> Not
> Validated

The default field separator ($IFS) is usually space or tab or newline.
Read: http://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/$IFS 
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