Re: question on Firefox and Thunderbird in F14 (yes, F14)

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 3/15/2012 11:42 PM, Remi wrote:

remi repo
I searched and it looks like its all about Centos ... am I missing 
something?


That being said, upgrading is best and that is what I eventually want to do.

Thank,
Paul
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Re: question on Firefox and Thunderbird in F14 (yes, F14)

[Remi]

I'm used to backport latest version of Firefox and Thunderbird for 2 EOL fedora 
version,
Search for "remi repo".

But, of course, I still recommend the upgrade to a maintained version of fedora.

Remi.

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> Yes, I know F14 is EOL, but I am wondering why Firefox and
> Thunderbird
> didn't update. Am I to assume that they are not "3rd party apps" and
> when F14 went EOL, any updates made to them were not ported over?
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Re: question on Firefox and Thunderbird in F14 (yes, F14)

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 3/15/2012 11:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/16/2012 02:20 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

To site one example, I now have Thunderbird 3.1.20 on Windows but F14 is 3.1.19 
and
isn't seeing an update.

Am I reading this situation correctly?

The situation is as it should be.  You will *not* be getting any updates to 
*any*
packages for F14 which are in the "Fedora Repositories".

The "Firefox" and "Thunderbird" maintainers take what is released by Mozilla and
package if for "Fedora" (they roll in all the language support, for instance) 
and
place it in the "Fedora Repositories" to be updated by yum or whatever you use 
to
update your system.

They have stopped doing that for F14.

Time to update to F16 or time to install your FF and TB directly from Mozilla.  
I do
that on one of my RHEL systems and get notified of new updates.


Ed:

Thanks for the confirm about what I thought. Its an interesting bind 
that Thunderbird and Firefox can be part of a Fedora release and, once 
that release is EOL, any changes aren't picked up (as in Abode Flash).


Yes, I am wanting to upgrade and the Maya window is finite, so I'll do 
mail/browsing on Windows until the beta program is over and/or the 
Mozilla kill date in April shows up.


Paul

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Re: question on Firefox and Thunderbird in F14 (yes, F14)

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/16/2012 02:20 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> To site one example, I now have Thunderbird 3.1.20 on Windows but F14 is 
> 3.1.19 and
> isn't seeing an update.
>
> Am I reading this situation correctly?

The situation is as it should be.  You will *not* be getting any updates to 
*any*
packages for F14 which are in the "Fedora Repositories". 

The "Firefox" and "Thunderbird" maintainers take what is released by Mozilla and
package if for "Fedora" (they roll in all the language support, for instance) 
and
place it in the "Fedora Repositories" to be updated by yum or whatever you use 
to
update your system.

They have stopped doing that for F14.

Time to update to F16 or time to install your FF and TB directly from Mozilla.  
I do
that on one of my RHEL systems and get notified of new updates. 

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question on Firefox and Thunderbird in F14 (yes, F14)

[Paul Allen Newell]

To all:

I recently got a notice on my Windows box about a security upgrade for 
Firefox and Thunderbird, which I properly applied. I logged into my F14 
box and did a yum update and saw no update.


Yes, I know F14 is EOL, but I am wondering why Firefox and Thunderbird 
didn't update. Am I to assume that they are not "3rd party apps" and 
when F14 went EOL, any updates made to them were not ported over?


I am holding onto this on F14 machine for the duration of Maya beta 
testing (Maya locked on F14) and will convert to F16 once that is over. 
But I am kinda bummed if, during the window until April 14th when 
Mozilla pulls support on the older versions), any updates don't get 
treated as 3rd party updates and picked up by yum.


My experience has always been that Fedora picks up stuff quicker than 
Windows ...


To site one example, I now have Thunderbird 3.1.20 on Windows but F14 is 
3.1.19 and isn't seeing an update.


Am I reading this situation correctly?

Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Working with large directories

[Robert Moskowitz]

I have two very large directories.

One an rsync of all the RFCs and that is up to 6456 files.  But all the 
Internet Drafts (including all expired ones) is 72,509 files.  Then I 
have a number of large directories with IEEE 802 documents, but rarely 
over 3,000 per WG/year (eg /802.15/11/ for .15 document numbers 
assigned in 2011).


So anyway, Nautilus takes forever to list these directories and at times 
I just want to look for a particular file by string in the name.  Is 
there a fast graphic tool for this?  Then when I find the desired file, 
I typically open it in Firefox.



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Re: F16 rocks !

[Alchemist]

2012/3/16 linux guy :
> I haven't been around the list much lately, but F16 absolutely rocks.
> KDE too, I can't wait to get my hands on KDE 4.8 to see what its got.
>
> The last few kernels 3.2.7 and on have been nice too.
>
> Keep up the good work, people.
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Re: ldconfig issue after compiling and installing software

[Richard Scobie]

Hi Steven,

Steven Oliver wrote:


And I updated ld.so.conf to include /usr/local/lib before running ldconfig:

root@odrade:/etc $ cat ld.so.conf
include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
include /usr/local/lib


You are close :)

Remove your added include and create a file called "local.conf" or 
something similar, in /etc/ld.so.conf.d, containing the following line, 
or lines if you are running 64 bit:


/usr/local/lib
/usr/local/lib64

and run ldconfig again.

Regards,

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Re: F16 rocks !

[Roger]

On 16/03/12 09:36, linux guy wrote:

I haven't been around the list much lately, but F16 absolutely rocks.
KDE too, I can't wait to get my hands on KDE 4.8 to see what its got.

The last few kernels 3.2.7 and on have been nice too.

Keep up the good work, people.

I agree, well said.
I use Gnome 3 and Xfce
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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 03/15/2012 04:05 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 10:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
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>> Pushing the power button, as opposed to holding it, is an ACPI event
>> that is trapped. The action is controlled by
>> /etc/acpi/events/powerconf. That defaults to running
>> /etc/acpi/actions/power.sh. That script checks to see if a power
>> manager is running. If so, the event is passed to the power manager.
>> Is not, the system runs the shutdown command.
>>
>> Now, depending on what desktop you are running, you set what you
>> want to happen by setting the action in the power manager setup.
>> (This is under System Settings -->Power in Gnome.)
>>
>> Mikkel
> ---
> I don't disagree with what you are saying but getting used to
shuting down an operating system
> using the power button is a bad practice. For example on my machine
> holding the power button shuts down the machine while pressing the
> button puts the machine to sleep. I agree this is configurable. But
that
> is in Fedora Linux, on other systems it is treated as a system error.
>
>
Well, the difference between pushing the power button, and holding
to long enough to bypass the OS and turn the system off is rather
pronounced in most systems. But that only applies to systems that
can be powered off by using software. There are still systems around
that use a rocker or push-on/push-off switch to turn them off.

But you do get Windows users that are also use the power button to
have the system shutdown. Exactly what a power button press does is
configurable in the power control panel on Windows as well - at
least in any version of Windows that is using ACPI. For that matter,
what happens when you close the lid on a laptop is also configurable.

I usually have my laptop go to sleep when I close the lid. That
works best for the way I usually use the laptop. I have the power
button configured to make it hibernate. But on my desktop, I have
the power button do a shutdown. I do not use it often, but I have
managed to lock up the system a time or two when playing with new
hardware/software, and it was that, or ssh into the machine and do a
shutdown that way. (Who would have expected a specific video card
and TV tuner card to lock up the system when used together, but each
would work fine with other hardware...)

So there is no one answer to this. That is why it is configurable,
instead of being hard-coded. I think doing a shutdown is a
reasonable default when there is no power manager software running,
and passing it on the the power manager if it is running lets each
user set their preference.

The nice thing about Linux is that the user gets to decide how
things like this work. YMMV

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ldconfig issue after compiling and installing software

[Steven Oliver]

I'm currently pulling the falcon programming language from git and
installing it myself instead of pulling it from yum.

After pulling it, compiling it, and installing it (sudo make install) it's
failing to run telling me:

root@odrade:/usr/local/lib $ falcon
falcon: error while loading shared libraries: libfalcon_engine.so.1: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

My first thought, as I'm sure most of yours will be was to check ldconfig
so i tried:

root@odrade:/usr/local/lib $ ldconfig -v | grep falcon

And it returns nothing. The falcon libraries appear to be correctly
installed:

root@odrade:/usr/local/lib $ ls
falcon  libfalcon_engine.so  libfalcon_engine.so.1
libfalcon_engine.so.1.22.2

And I updated ld.so.conf to include /usr/local/lib before running ldconfig:

root@odrade:/etc $ cat ld.so.conf
include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
include /usr/local/lib

Does anyone have any suggestions to help me out?? I'm stumped!

Thanks,
Steven N. Oliver
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Re: ibus question

[Jens Petersen]

> If I open a gnome terminal, I can use ibus but not if I open an rxvt
> term...

I think you need urxvt (rxvt-unicode) for that.

> ibus does not work with TeXMaker

I can input Japanese at least.

Jens
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Re: Sata device in a USB docking station problems.

[George R Goffe]

Nataraj,

I have connected the problematic drive directly to a USB port and have NOT seen 
ONE failure since I did this. I've been making this drive VERY BUSY.

This appears to have been the problem.

How does one find a USB 1 to many splitter that actually works correctly?

Regards and THANKS!

George...

 
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F16 rocks !

[linux guy]

I haven't been around the list much lately, but F16 absolutely rocks.
KDE too, I can't wait to get my hands on KDE 4.8 to see what its got.

The last few kernels 3.2.7 and on have been nice too.

Keep up the good work, people.
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Re: installing Xen from source on fedora 16‏

[M A Young]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Arindam Choudhury wrote:


I am trying to install Xen 4.1.2 in Fedora 16. I have compiled and installed
the source code.

On my /boot, I have:

boot]# ls
config-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
config.mk-compat-wireless-3.3-rc1-2-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
grub
grub2
initramfs-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64.img
initrd-plymouth.img
System.map-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
vmlinuz-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
xen-4.1.2.gz
xen-4.1.gz
xen-4.gz
xen.gz
xen-syms-4.1.2

On Grub2, I dont have any boot option for Xen dom0.

Can you tell me what to do next? All the generated documents talks about Xen
3.


You can generate a configuration by running
grub2-mkconfig -o /tmp/grub.cfg
This should contain xen boot options and you can copy the relevant bits or 
the whole file to /boot/grub2/grub.cfg.


Michael Young
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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 10:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: 
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> 
> On 03/15/2012 09:12 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 18:42 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> >> I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting
> >> differently when using the power button to shut down. With past
> >> versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would
> >> cause it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go
> >> into a hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking.
> >>
> >> Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding
> >> the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it to
> >> go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then restart
> >> again before going to a normal operation?
> >>
> >> Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown
> >> and not a hibernation or sleep?
> > The system is not designed to have you shutdown the operating system by
> > holding the power button. That is a hardware related issue. If you try
> > that while running Windows it would give you an error message when you
> > rebooted.
> > To shut down you can either use the option in the menu or run: poweroff
> > or run: shutdown -h
> >
> Pushing the power button, as opposed to holding it, is an ACPI event
> that is trapped. The action is controlled by
> /etc/acpi/events/powerconf. That defaults to running
> /etc/acpi/actions/power.sh. That script checks to see if a power
> manager is running. If so, the event is passed to the power manager.
> Is not, the system runs the shutdown command.
> 
> Now, depending on what desktop you are running, you set what you
> want to happen by setting the action in the power  manager setup.
> (This is under System Settings -->Power in Gnome.)
> 
> Mikkel
---
I don't disagree with what you are saying but getting used to shuting down an 
operating system 
using the power button is a bad practice. For example on my machine
holding the power button shuts down the machine while pressing the
button puts the machine to sleep. I agree this is configurable. But that
is in Fedora Linux, on other systems it is treated as a system error.


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Re: how to get nm-applet switched on when making a LiveCD

[suvayu ali]

Hi Ranjan,

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 18:22, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
>> Actually I think I have spotted a big mistake.
>>
>> cat > /etc/xdg/autostart << FOE
>> /usr/libexec/gam_server
>> @stalonetray
>> @nm-applet
>> @pcmanfm -d
>> /usr/libexec/notification-daemon
>> FOE
>
> I see: so what should I change this with? In the lxde cd, the above is:
>
> cat > etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/ << FOE.
>
> This will not exist anymore, because I do not have/want a DE. What
> should I do here?
>

Since you use fvwm, you would have to figure out what is used by fvwm.
As far as I recall, one of the Tim-s or Tom-s on this list is an fvwm
user. He has a webpage describing his setup. It has been posted to the
list several times. You could use that as a starting point.

Also you could try putting desktop files for the applications you want
to autostart under /etc/xdg/autostart/. To start with you can try the
nm-applet.desktop file.

Hope this helps.

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Re: how to get nm-applet switched on when making a LiveCD

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi Suvayu,


Thanks for your e-mail!

 
> nm-applet never runs as root. But I think it requires gnome-keyring
> daemon to work (not sure about the details). Also can you ensure all the
> network interfaces are indeed operational after starting NetworkManager?
> `ifconfig' should help.

OK, I will check this, thanks!

> 
> If light weight is what you are looking for, WindowMaker might be
> another candidate. I believe its just 2 packages.

Sure, but I want a good feature set also. At this point though, I am
trying to get one going...


> > My initscript is not that different from the one on LiveCD. But
> > clearly, I am dropping stuff I should not. I will just include the
> > two .ks files with this e-mail (perhaps they will make it through.)
> >
> 
> Actually I think I have spotted a big mistake.
> 
> cat > /etc/xdg/autostart << FOE
> /usr/libexec/gam_server
> @stalonetray
> @nm-applet
> @pcmanfm -d
> /usr/libexec/notification-daemon
> FOE

I see: so what should I change this with? In the lxde cd, the above is:

cat > etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/ << FOE.

This will not exist anymore, because I do not have/want a DE. What
should I do here?


> 
> There are many, ArchLinux (no gui, just terminal) or Knoppix comes to
> mind. Then there is Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, Damn Small Linux ...
> and many more. Most of these are quite up to date (uses a 3.x series
> kernel).

Yes, that is right: however I was looking for a F environment because
that is all I know somewhat (also this is the most helpful ML --
definitely far more than U, based on their archives).

Thanks again!

Ranjan
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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 03/15/2012 09:12 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 18:42 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
>> I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting
>> differently when using the power button to shut down. With past
>> versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would
>> cause it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go
>> into a hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking.
>>
>> Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding
>> the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it to
>> go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then restart
>> again before going to a normal operation?
>>
>> Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown
>> and not a hibernation or sleep?
> The system is not designed to have you shutdown the operating system by
> holding the power button. That is a hardware related issue. If you try
> that while running Windows it would give you an error message when you
> rebooted.
> To shut down you can either use the option in the menu or run: poweroff
> or run: shutdown -h
>
Pushing the power button, as opposed to holding it, is an ACPI event
that is trapped. The action is controlled by
/etc/acpi/events/powerconf. That defaults to running
/etc/acpi/actions/power.sh. That script checks to see if a power
manager is running. If so, the event is passed to the power manager.
Is not, the system runs the shutdown command.

Now, depending on what desktop you are running, you set what you
want to happen by setting the action in the power  manager setup.
(This is under System Settings -->Power in Gnome.)

Mikkel
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ibus question

[François Patte]

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Bonjour,

Is there a way to associate a window to ibus?

If I open a gnome terminal, I can use ibus but not if I open an rxvt
term... ibus does not work with TeXMaker

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Re: how to get nm-applet switched on when making a LiveCD

[suvayu ali]

Hi Ranjan,

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 15:18, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> Thanks, Suvayu!
>
> I was able to do the above with my LiveCD. However, my nm-applet
> (started as liveuser) does not have the ability to connect. I get:
>
> ** (nm-applet:1420): WARNING **:Failed to add/activate connection: Not
> authorized to control networking

nm-applet never runs as root. But I think it requires gnome-keyring
daemon to work (not sure about the details). Also can you ensure all the
network interfaces are indeed operational after starting NetworkManager?
`ifconfig' should help.

> What I am trying to achieve is a non-DE system but one with a window
> manager. Perhaps more than that, how a novice can build a
> LiveCDThough I guess all this is proving that one needs to know
> more than that...
>

If light weight is what you are looking for, WindowMaker might be
another candidate. I believe its just 2 packages.

> My initscript is not that different from the one on LiveCD. But
> clearly, I am dropping stuff I should not. I will just include the
> two .ks files with this e-mail (perhaps they will make it through.)
>

Actually I think I have spotted a big mistake.

cat > /etc/xdg/autostart << FOE
/usr/libexec/gam_server
@stalonetray
@nm-applet
@pcmanfm -d
/usr/libexec/notification-daemon
FOE

This seems to imply /etc/xdg/autostart is a regular file. On my system
its a directory. Maybe that has something to do with your problems?

> Btw, my LiveCD does have X. It does not have a DE. (Separately, where
> do I find a minimal Live distribution? I always have installed using
> the boot.iso.)
>

There are many, ArchLinux (no gui, just terminal) or Knoppix comes to
mind. Then there is Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, Damn Small Linux ...
and many more. Most of these are quite up to date (uses a 3.x series
kernel).

Hope this helps.

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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 15 Mar 2012 at 9:12, Aaron Konstam wrote:

Subject:Re: Power off button acting differently?
From:   Aaron Konstam 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date sent:  Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:12:03 -0500

> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 18:42 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: 
> > I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting 
> > differently when using the power button to shut down. With past
> > versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would cause
> > it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go into a
> > hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking. 
> > 
> > Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding
> > the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it
> > to go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then
> > restart again before going to a normal operation?
> > 
> > Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown and
> > not a hibernation or sleep?
> The system is not designed to have you shutdown the operating system
> by holding the power button. That is a hardware related issue. If you
> try that while running Windows it would give you an error message when
> you rebooted. To shut down you can either use the option in the menu
> or run: poweroff or run: shutdown -h

Pressing the power button for many years has worked fine for 
both Windows and Fedora to start a shutdown on these systems. 
It is only recently that pressing the button while at the fedora 
logon screen, it goes it to what appears to be some kind of 
hibernation mode with the power light blinking. Touching the 
keyboard seems to make it seem to do something, but it never 
wakes up, and at that point Ctrl-Alt-Del, and any other 
combination of keys do nothing. Only pressing and holding the 
power button will shut it down or turning off the power on the 
power supply. Then the next restart requires another restart. 
Windows XP will do a regular shutdown when pressing the power 
button. 

These machines are from 2005 with AMD FX 55 64bit CPUs. 

Have found some kernel options that I will try to see if they affect 
the process. 


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Re: how to get nm-applet switched on when making a LiveCD

[Ranjan Maitra]

> nm-applet is the gui, you need to start the service using systemctl
> (systemd command). Look at the systemd wiki page, it has instructions on
> how start and stop services, e.g.
> 
> # systemctl start NetworkManager.service
> 

Thanks, Suvayu! 

I was able to do the above with my LiveCD. However, my nm-applet
(started as liveuser) does not have the ability to connect. I get:

** (nm-applet:1420): WARNING **:Failed to add/activate connection: Not
authorized to control networking
> > Also, how do I know that whatever services I need are running? What are
> > the services I need to get the main processes behind my LiveCD running?
> > I guess I could figure this out by comparing with the LXDE LiveCD for
> > instance.
> 
> What I was arriving at is, this shows your init script is not working
> properly. Services like NetworkManager should be running on boot. I
> would say your idea about comparing with the LXDE LiveCD is the way to
> go. To check if you have the ones you need, you can compare with a
> running system using systemctl commands.
> 
> If you don't mind my asking, what are you trying to achieve? Since it
> doesn't have X, I am guessing you are trying to get a recovery CD of
> some sort? If that is the case, I would just use one of the many minimal
> Live distributions out there.

What I am trying to achieve is a non-DE system but one with a window
manager. Perhaps more than that, how a novice can build a
LiveCDThough I guess all this is proving that one needs to know
more than that...

My initscript is not that different from the one on LiveCD. But
clearly, I am dropping stuff I should not. I will just include the
two .ks files with this e-mail (perhaps they will make it through.)

Btw, my LiveCD does have X. It does not have a DE. (Separately, where
do I find a minimal Live distribution? I always have installed using
the boot.iso.)

Anyway, thanks again for all the continuing help!

Best wishes,
Ranjan


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Accessibility (slow keys) in Gnome3 login screen - cannot deactivate.

[S P Arif Sahari Wibowo]

Hi!

For some reason some accessibility features (specifically slow 
keys and sticky keys) in my Gnome3 login screen turn on, and I 
cannot seems to deactivate / disable / turn-off / reset it. I 
tried turn them off from the accessibility menu at top right, 
looks like turned off from the menu, but as soon as I back to 
login dialog box, the feature still on (if I back to the menu 
the feature is back on). I tried use shortcut (press shift 8 
seconds), dialog box came up, I choose "deactivate", but the 
feature still on! Anybody know what else to do?


Ideally, I like to know how to turn off accessibility features 
from command line (I can ssh into the machine and have normal 
access), especially for login screen, although if you know how 
to do it for users it will be wonderful addition.


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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 18:42 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: 
> I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting 
> differently when using the power button to shut down. With past 
> versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would 
> cause it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go 
> into a hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking. 
> 
> Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding 
> the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it to 
> go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then restart 
> again before going to a normal operation?
> 
> Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown 
> and not a hibernation or sleep?
The system is not designed to have you shutdown the operating system by
holding the power button. That is a hardware related issue. If you try
that while running Windows it would give you an error message when you
rebooted.
To shut down you can either use the option in the menu or run: poweroff
or run: shutdown -h


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installing Xen from source on fedora 16‏

[Arindam Choudhury]

Hi,

I am trying to install Xen 4.1.2 in Fedora 16. I have compiled and installed 
the source code.

On my /boot, I have:

boot]# ls
config-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
config.mk-compat-wireless-3.3-rc1-2-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
grub
grub2
initramfs-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64.img
initrd-plymouth.img
System.map-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
vmlinuz-3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
xen-4.1.2.gz
xen-4.1.gz
xen-4.gz
xen.gz
xen-syms-4.1.2


On Grub2, I dont have any boot option for Xen dom0. 

Can you tell me what to do next? All the generated documents talks about Xen 3.

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Re: Change F16 Log-in screen? -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 03/14/2012 05:23 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Can the log-in screen background be changed to be blank, plain
blue perhaps and how to do so?

Usual question – are you using Gnome or something else? Are you using
GDM to login?


   On this computer I left the GUI login screen that comes with the
   XFCE Live Spin from which I installed. What I see resembles some
   clouds and what might be a space ship? Short answer, I dunno!



If so, I’ve got a file called /etc/dconf/db/gdm.d/01-local-settings
containing these lines:

[org/gnome/desktop/background]
picture-options='zoom'
picture-uri='file:///home/james/picture.jpg'

You may need to create this file and the parent directory, and you may
need to run
dconf update
as root, and obviously change the file:///… bit to a real picture.

There’s a GUI program called dconf-editor which allows you to edit dconf
settings. In particular, you can browse to org/gnome/desktop/background
to see what the options are. It looks like something like this might do
you (untested!)

[org/gnome/desktop/background]
picture-options='none'
color-shading-type='solid'
primary-color='#3020b0'

At any rate, there’s something for you to play with…

Hope this helps,

James.



   I suppose the need to change is trivial but I will give it a try.

   Thank you,

   Bob


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Re: how to get nm-applet switched on when making a LiveCD

[suvayu ali]

Hi Ranjan,

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 06:17, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> It does switch to root without asking for password.
>
> However, starting nm-applet (as root) on the Live CD yields the
> following error (verbatim):
>

nm-applet is the gui, you need to start the service using systemctl
(systemd command). Look at the systemd wiki page, it has instructions on
how start and stop services, e.g.

# systemctl start NetworkManager.service

[...]

>
>
> Btw, I don't know if this is germane to the discussion but i did take
> out PackageKit during my LiveCD creation.
>
> Also, how do I know that whatever services I need are running? What are
> the services I need to get the main processes behind my LiveCD running?
> I guess I could figure this out by comparing with the LXDE LiveCD for
> instance.

What I was arriving at is, this shows your init script is not working
properly. Services like NetworkManager should be running on boot. I
would say your idea about comparing with the LXDE LiveCD is the way to
go. To check if you have the ones you need, you can compare with a
running system using systemctl commands.

If you don't mind my asking, what are you trying to achieve? Since it
doesn't have X, I am guessing you are trying to get a recovery CD of
some sort? If that is the case, I would just use one of the many minimal
Live distributions out there.

GL

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Re: Power off button acting differently?

[fedora]

If you run fedora 15:

/etc/acpi/events/powerconf

suomi

On 03/15/2012 09:42 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting
differently when using the power button to shut down. With past
versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would
cause it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go
into a hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking.

Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding
the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it to
go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then restart
again before going to a normal operation?

Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown
and not a hibernation or sleep?

+--+
   Michael D. Setzer II -  Computer Science Instructor
   Guam Community College  Computer Center
   mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net
   mailto:msetze...@gmail.com
   http://www.guam.net/home/mikes
   Guam - Where America's Day Begins
   G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
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Power off button acting differently?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

I've recently noticed that my classroom machines are acting 
differently when using the power button to shut down. With past 
versions and originally with Fedora 16, the power button would 
cause it to do the same as a shutdown. But know it seems to go 
into a hibernation mode, and the power light is blinking. 

Attempts to get it to wake up fail, and only pressing and holding 
the power button in to shut it down, or removing power will get it to 
go off. Then for some reason, it will then boot up, and then restart 
again before going to a normal operation?

Is there some setting to get the power button to do a shutdown 
and not a hibernation or sleep?

+--+
  Michael D. Setzer II -  Computer Science Instructor  
  Guam Community College  Computer Center  
  mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net
  mailto:msetze...@gmail.com
  http://www.guam.net/home/mikes
  Guam - Where America's Day Begins
  G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer 
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
+--+

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