Re: nouveau tv-out

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Konstantin Svist writes:

I tried connecting a laptop s-video out to a tv last night but couldn't see  
a software option for it anywhere.


Most laptops have a key combination to activate external video.

Running Fedora 16 x64 XFCE with nouveau driver. Checked xrandr and F ->  
Settings -> Display applet.


Also tried a VGA to s-video adapter, same story.

Tried installing kmod-nvidia - X refuses to start altogether.

What should I try next?


Examine your keyboard. Look for an icon on some key that looks like a  
monitor. The icon is usually painted with the same color as some other key  
that's typically labeled "Fn". That's your hint. There may be more than one  
key, to cut over your video completely, to the external port, or to have it  
go both to the laptop and to the external video.




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Re: nouveau tv-out

2012-04-19 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 04/19/2012 05:44 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 04/19/2012 05:35 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

Tried installing kmod-nvidia - X refuses to start altogether.


Did you make sure to blacklist nouveau?  If not, you need to if you're 
going to be using kmod-nvidia.


Yes, and ran dracut command to regenerate initramfs.
Also tried "install nouveau /bin/true" which made it finally not load 
but nvidia still didn't work

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Re: nouveau tv-out

2012-04-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/19/2012 05:35 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

Tried installing kmod-nvidia - X refuses to start altogether.


Did you make sure to blacklist nouveau?  If not, you need to if you're 
going to be using kmod-nvidia.

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nouveau tv-out

2012-04-19 Thread Konstantin Svist
I tried connecting a laptop s-video out to a tv last night but couldn't 
see a software option for it anywhere.
Running Fedora 16 x64 XFCE with nouveau driver. Checked xrandr and F -> 
Settings -> Display applet.


Also tried a VGA to s-video adapter, same story.

Tried installing kmod-nvidia - X refuses to start altogether.

What should I try next?

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Re: Fedora 17 beta not supporting rsolutions above 1024x768 in Nouveau

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Jim writes:

Fedora 17 beta can't get any resolution above 1024x768 with Nouveau driver,  
I need at least 1280x768 to display fullscreen on 42" TV monitor, worked ok  
on F14.


A lot of this depends on your graphics hardware. You need to post the output  
of lspci, and what gets logged in Xorg.0.log.




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Re: Fedora 17 beta not supporting rsolutions above 1024x768 in Nouveau

2012-04-19 Thread Jim

On 04/19/2012 07:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Fedora 17 beta can't get any resolution above 1024x768 with Nouveau 
driver, I need at least 1280x768 to display fullscreen on 42" TV 
monitor, worked ok on F14.

I meant to say worked ok on Fedora 16
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Fedora 17 beta not supporting rsolutions above 1024x768 in Nouveau

2012-04-19 Thread Jim
Fedora 17 beta can't get any resolution above 1024x768 with Nouveau 
driver, I need at least 1280x768 to display fullscreen on 42" TV 
monitor, worked ok on F14.

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Re: mknod

2012-04-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 19Apr2012 11:13, Mikkel L. Ellertson  wrote:
| On 04/17/2012 02:44 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
| > 17.04.2012 21:25, Patrick Dupre:
| >> I made mknod -m 660 /dev/fd0H1440 b 2 28
| >> but at the next reboot I had to do it again.
| >> Why?
| > Maybe because it is populated during system boot process or when device
| > is attached to the system. Check for udev.

Another thing to bear in mind: you DO NOT have to put devices in /dev!
Put your mknod somewhere stable!
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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:47:17PM +0300, Veeti Paananen wrote:
> On 19.4.2012 21:31, Scott Doty wrote:
> > On 04/19/2012 10:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >>
> >> No.  The OP is a troll who's only trying to disrupt this group by
> >> getting us arguing about politics.
> > 
> > And, hilariously, they had revealed themselves to be morons:
> > 
> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
> > 
> > Bwahahahaha... :)
> > 
> >  -Scott
> > 
> 
> Hah! Windows? What a pathetic loser!
> 
> This mailing list is better than this, right?

Yes.  Let's move on please. :-)

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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread Veeti Paananen
On 19.4.2012 21:31, Scott Doty wrote:
> On 04/19/2012 10:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>> No.  The OP is a troll who's only trying to disrupt this group by
>> getting us arguing about politics.
> 
> And, hilariously, they had revealed themselves to be morons:
> 
>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
> 
> Bwahahahaha... :)
> 
>  -Scott
> 

Hah! Windows? What a pathetic loser!

This mailing list is better than this, right?

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Re: Fedora 17 Beta KDE download

2012-04-19 Thread binarynut

On 04/19/2012 04:11 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:

Can someone direct me to the Fedora 17 Beta KDE Download site . I have been
all over fedoraproject.org and cannot find it .

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease, about half-way down the page.

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Re: Fedora 17 Beta KDE download

2012-04-19 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM,   wrote:
> Can someone direct me to the Fedora 17 Beta KDE Download site . I have been
> all over fedoraproject.org and cannot find it .

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease, about half-way down the page.

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Fwd: Fedora 17 Beta KDE download

2012-04-19 Thread binarynut
Can someone direct me to the Fedora 17 Beta KDE Download site . I have 
been all over fedoraproject.org and cannot find it .

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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread ny6p01
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:55:12AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/19/2012 08:57 AM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is the OP calling for a Constitutional convention?
> 
> No.  The OP is a troll who's only trying to disrupt this group by 
> getting us arguing about politics.

Need to tune up my troll-o-meter...

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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread Scott Doty
On 04/19/2012 10:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> No.  The OP is a troll who's only trying to disrupt this group by
> getting us arguing about politics.

And, hilariously, they had revealed themselves to be morons:

   User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;

Bwahahahaha... :)

 -Scott

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oxygen-icon-theme cannot update

2012-04-19 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
I appear to have 2 versions installed

4.7.4-1 cannot be removed
4.8.1-1 would remove KDE as well

Unfortunately yum reports a conflict with 4.7.4-1 if I try to update to

4.8.2-1

It reports conflicts with 4.7.4-1 for most of the png files


 It also reports the same problem if I try to reinstall

4.8.1-1

Any ideas?


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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/19/2012 08:57 AM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote:

Is the OP calling for a Constitutional convention?


No.  The OP is a troll who's only trying to disrupt this group by 
getting us arguing about politics.

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Re: Cross compiling on x86_64 to pentium4

2012-04-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 04/19/2012 04:59 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

I need to build a program on an x86_64 system to run on an old laptop,
which uses a pentium4. What's the most convenient way to build this on a
Fedora-16 system?


Package your program as an rpm and build the rpm using mock.

Ralf

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Re: mknod

2012-04-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 04/17/2012 02:44 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> 17.04.2012 21:25, Patrick Dupre:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I made mknod -m 660 /dev/fd0H1440 b 2 28
>> but at the next reboot I had to do it again.
>> Why?
> Maybe because it is populated during system boot process or when device
> is attached to the system. Check for udev.
>
>
> Mateusz Marzantowicz
/dev has been a mounted as a temporary (RAM) file system sense
before udev was adopted. So any changes you make are lost in a
reboot.  The /dev/fd[0-9] block devices are created as needed when
the system detects floppies. For example, when the floppy module is
loaded, or when a USB floppy is plugged in. You can create a udev
rule in /etc/udev/rules.d to create the format specific devices. You
may want to look at /lib/udev/rules.d/60-floppy.rules for an example
of what to detect. This is the system rule that creates /dev/fd[0-9].

I do not have time to generate a rule right now, but if you need
help, I can come up with one later...

Mikkel
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Re: Cross compiling on x86_64 to pentium4

2012-04-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> On 04/19/2012 04:59 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>> I need to build a program on an x86_64 system to run on an old laptop, which 
>> uses a pentium4.  What's the most convenient way to build this on a 
>> Fedora-16 system?
>
> I hope someone else will be able to suggest a better approach (it would be
> interesting for me too), but what I would do is this:
>
> 1) create a 386 virtual machine (kvm, vmware, ...)
> 2) install a 386 fedora (better if you match the version which is on the old 
> laptop)
> 3) compile in the vm
>
> This will work for sure.

Way over thinking it I think. Use mock[1][2] that's what the buildsystem does.

Richard

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/Mock
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Mock_to_test_package_builds
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Re: Cross compiling on x86_64 to pentium4

2012-04-19 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 04/19/2012 04:59 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I need to build a program on an x86_64 system to run on an old laptop, which 
> uses a pentium4.  What's the most convenient way to build this on a Fedora-16 
> system?

I hope someone else will be able to suggest a better approach (it would be
interesting for me too), but what I would do is this:

1) create a 386 virtual machine (kvm, vmware, ...)
2) install a 386 fedora (better if you match the version which is on the old 
laptop)
3) compile in the vm

This will work for sure.

The alternative is "gcc -m32", but if the program is not simple and has
dependencies on libraries, things will get complicated.

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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread ny6p01
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 08:26:44PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 04/18/2012 08:14 PM, Hal wrote:
> >
> > Just a question and request for reasoned comment...
> >
> >
> 
> Yes but if we did we would, quite probably, only make it worse.
> 
> -- 
>  _

Is the OP calling for a Constitutional convention?

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Vps encrypted root partition

2012-04-19 Thread Marco Vittorini Orgeas

Hello,
I'd like to encrypt sensible data on a VPS linux instance (emails, 
etc...) and I would proceed with a dm-crypt encrypted root tree (apart 
from /boot).
Now the only downside I see is that in case of unexpected reboot I have 
to insert the pass-phrase

to have the system booted.
Any hints/recommendation/warnings about this configuration ?
It's my first try at it.

Thanks

Marco
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Re: system-config-users and ldapi

2012-04-19 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 10:37 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 06:09 -0700, Craig White wrote: 
> > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 22:03 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> > > Can system-config-users be made to use ldapi (i.e., a socket connection
> > > to an LDAP server)?
> > > 
> > > According to "man 5 libuser.conf", libuser can do this; but I haven't
> > > been able to convince system-config-users.  It asks for a SASL user on
> > > startup (which shouldn't be applicable, as I understand it).
> > 
> > I was under the impression that system-config-users would write directly
> > to /etc/passwd (/etc/shadow, /etc/group) and would not be applicable for
> > use with ldap based users.
> > 
> > BTW, I tend to use Webmin and it's LDAP Users and Groups module to
> > manage LDAP users & groups.
> 
> If you set "create_modules = ldap" in /etc/libuser.conf,
> system-config-users will prompt for several LDAP authentication settings
> on startup.
> 
> I have not gotten it to work, yet, though.
> 
> There is an old comment in this older bug report suggesting that this
> worked at some time (in some form):
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=89539
> 
> It may be that it requires authentication to be done via LDAP; and I'm
> using Kerberos for that.

If there was actual intent to use it with ldap users & groups, there
would be configuration possibilities for the schema(s) used. It's not
and never was a suitable tool for the purpose.

Craig


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Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 07:50, Tim  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 20:39 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>> SOAPA may be a good example of what it might have to do with Linux and
>> Open Source.
>
> Googling that term finds various things, of which I can't tell what
> you're referring to.  Some worrying, but this one was funny:
>
>  http://soapa.org/
>

I think it was a typo, he meant SOPA, but that web page was hilarious. :D

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OT Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?

2012-04-19 Thread Frank Murphy

On 19/04/12 01:14, Hal wrote:


Just a question and request for reasoned comment...




A legitimate question,
But you got the wrong list.

But fully understandable,  as a quick Google search
has not brought a  perfect list  to post to, the closest I could find is 
a summary:

https://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/467746/political-system/36747/Stable-political-systems

But for pre-release versions possibly:
https://groups.google.com/group/us.politics/topics

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