Re: Syncing with MTP devices

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 20:17 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:07:41 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> >> Ironically, one of my reasons for moving from iPhone to Android was 
> >> the hope of better Linux support ...
> >
> > Personally, I use wi-fi and rsync with my android. There is an rsyn 
> > app available for android.
> 
> Indeed.  The MTP support in linux pretty much sucks.  If it was the 
> only option, I'm sure more of us would try to work on improving it.  
> But, like Tom, I just use other methods of transfering files.  I 
> installed QuickSSHd on my Galaxy Nexus and use sshfs and rsync for 
> most of my syncing.

Installed the free SSHDroid and it worked (after a good deal of futzing
around with the SSH login). However the new music didn't show up in any
music apps on the phone. Then I had a brainwave and installed SDrescan,
which forces a rescan of the /sdcard filesystem, and lo! it now works.

Presumably this is something else an MTP connection would take care of,
but never mind.

poc

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Re: Memory loss after long uptime

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Rick Stevens  said:
> You might try having a look at the output of ipcs after stopping MySQL
> and see if your missing memory is in one or more of the shm segments.
> If so, you can reclaim it by using "ipcrm -m ". You'd be
> surprised at how many programs don't release IPC resources--especially
> if they are rudely terminated (e.g. SIGSEGV or SIGKILL).

Are you sure?  I've been running MySQL for a long time, and I don't
remember it ever using SysV IPC.  I certainly don't see it using that
now, even on an old version I still have running (much older than the
OP's F14).

To the OP: if you think you are seeing RAM in use that isn't reflected
when comparing the output of "free" to "ps"/"top" process usage, it
could be in other kernel buffers.  Check out "slabtop" (has to run as
root); there are other kernel caches that "free" doesn't know about,
especially the dentry and inode caches.  These will show up as just more
kernel RAM in use, but really they are caches that should be discarded
as needed (just like the old buffers/cache lines in "free").
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Play a sound after screen unlock, how?

[Fernando Cassia]

Hi,

I wonder if there's a way to configure a sound to be played after the
screen is unlocked... ?

I've found threads about the broken "log-in sound"
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=274747

But nothing about the 'unlock' sound. In Windows and other OSs, you
can configure a sound to be played after screen is unlocked.

In Gnome 3.x where can this be tweaked? -TIA

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Re: Syncing with MTP devices

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 20:17 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:07:41 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> >> Ironically, one of my reasons for moving from iPhone to Android was 
> >> the hope of better Linux support ...
> >
> > Personally, I use wi-fi and rsync with my android. There is an rsyn 
> > app available for android.
> 
> Indeed.  The MTP support in linux pretty much sucks.  If it was the 
> only option, I'm sure more of us would try to work on improving it.  
> But, like Tom, I just use other methods of transfering files.  I 
> installed QuickSSHd on my Galaxy Nexus and use sshfs and rsync for 
> most of my syncing.

Thanks Todd (and Tom). Looks like MTP is not worth the effort for now. I
guess I'll try one of the WiFi options.

> The thread I'd point at for various options is:
> 
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-March/415247.html
> 
> but I see that Patrick commented in that thread, so I wouldn't be 
> telling him anything new. :)

I did comment, but at the time it seemed that MTP was working for me
(the music already on my phone proves it), and now it really isn't.

> It would be nice if the default tools worked better out of the box.  
> But I'm not sure that MTP is better than the various wireless options 
> available, even if it worked perfectly.  At least not for me.

I guess if it worked it would be better integrated with the Linux music
players, e.g. more automatic syncing etc. Maybe some future version will
work better.

Thanks again.

poc

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Re: starting konsoles in specific locations

[Ed Greshko]

On 04/28/2012 08:13 AM, jonetsu wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   Is it possible at all to start several konsole terminals, each in a
> specific location, by means of a script ?  I used to do that with
> another type of terminal app years ago.  I quickly did a search about
> konsole and it seems that it does not support standard X parameters
> like '-geometry'.  is there any way to start konsoles in a specific
> size at a specific location (and optionally using a specific name) ?
>
> Thanks for any suggestion.

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=84343

Suggests a couple of "workarounds".

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Re: Memory loss after long uptime

[Konstantin Svist]

On 04/27/2012 03:52 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 04/27/2012 02:10 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

Hi all,

I have a strange recurring problem on some of my servers, maybe someone
can help me figure out what might be causing it.

After running a MySQL machine with fairly high load for a while
(~month), RAM usage in top stops making sense. Normally, RES column
accounts for everything currently present in RAM (not swap) and
corresponds pretty well with mem_used-buffers-cache. This is always the
case after a fresh boot and seems to be the case on most other servers.
But that's not the case here:

59098540k used - 1633832k cached - 25824k buffers = 57438884 (54.7G)
supposedly used by all processes
sum(RES column from top) ~= 35127296k (33.5G)

So where's the other 21G??

I'm pretty sure I'm not nitpicking here, this is >30% of total system
RAM unaccounted for. I've tried stopping all non-OS specific processes
(and restarting some services that seemed to eat more RAM that they
should have (irqbalance)) -- and memory is not reclaimed.

Over the few years that I've seen this problem, I've already replaced
all the hardware and upgraded Fedora from 8 to 14 (currently running
2.6.35.14-95.fc14.x86_64) and MySQL and other code without any sign of
improvement.

Interestingly, another machine with same hardware & OS runs MySQL in
slave mode to replicate the DB -- that machine has uptime of 134 days
and does not exhibit the same symptoms. In fact, here is its mem 
footprint:


63166496k used - 19786032k cached - 2881484k buffers = 40498980k (38.6G)
sum(RES column from top) ~= 45.5G (which makes sense since a few
RAM-hungry processes share memory)


We've seen this before in some of our MySQL platforms. It appears that
some of the older MySQL servers hemorrhage shared memory segments which
will not be reclaimed when the process is terminated.

You might try having a look at the output of ipcs after stopping MySQL
and see if your missing memory is in one or more of the shm segments.
If so, you can reclaim it by using "ipcrm -m ". You'd be
surprised at how many programs don't release IPC resources--especially
if they are rudely terminated (e.g. SIGSEGV or SIGKILL).

Also have a serious look at updating your MySQL platform if possible.
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Thanks Rick,

I tried ipcs on a few machines with same symptoms, but it doesn't look 
like there's a lot of shared memory mentioned there.
The MySQL machine had already been rebooted, so I'll keep checking it... 
but doesn't look promising so far.



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wpa supplicant

[JD]

wpa_supplicant is unable to associate with my phone (which acts as an
ad-hoc peer).
I have set up the wpa_supplicant.conf on F16 as follows:

network={
ssid="MyPhoneSSID"
bssid=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
scan_ssid=1
mode=AD-HOC
key_mgmt=NONE
group=WEP104 WEP40
wep_key0="wep_key_0"
wep_key1="wep_key_0"
wep_key2="wep_key_0"
wep_key3="wep_key_0"
wep_tx_keyidx=0
}

Association never takes place.

However, my Apple/OS_X  laptop has no problem associating with same phone.

So, what is wrong with my wpa_supplicant.conf file?
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Re: Syncing with MTP devices

[Todd Zullinger]

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:07:41 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Ironically, one of my reasons for moving from iPhone to Android was 
the hope of better Linux support ...


Personally, I use wi-fi and rsync with my android. There is an rsyn 
app available for android.


Indeed.  The MTP support in linux pretty much sucks.  If it was the 
only option, I'm sure more of us would try to work on improving it.  
But, like Tom, I just use other methods of transfering files.  I 
installed QuickSSHd on my Galaxy Nexus and use sshfs and rsync for 
most of my syncing.


The thread I'd point at for various options is:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-March/415247.html

but I see that Patrick commented in that thread, so I wouldn't be 
telling him anything new. :)


It would be nice if the default tools worked better out of the box.  
But I'm not sure that MTP is better than the various wireless options 
available, even if it worked perfectly.  At least not for me.


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starting konsoles in specific locations

[jonetsu]

Hello,

  Is it possible at all to start several konsole terminals, each in a
specific location, by means of a script ?  I used to do that with
another type of terminal app years ago.  I quickly did a search about
konsole and it seems that it does not support standard X parameters
like '-geometry'.  is there any way to start konsoles in a specific
size at a specific location (and optionally using a specific name) ?

Thanks for any suggestion.
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Re: Syncing with MTP devices

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:07:41 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Ironically, one of my reasons for moving from iPhone to Android was the
> hope of better Linux support ...

Personally, I use wi-fi and rsync with my android. There is an
rsyn app available for android.
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Re: Memory loss after long uptime

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/27/2012 02:10 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

Hi all,

I have a strange recurring problem on some of my servers, maybe someone
can help me figure out what might be causing it.

After running a MySQL machine with fairly high load for a while
(~month), RAM usage in top stops making sense. Normally, RES column
accounts for everything currently present in RAM (not swap) and
corresponds pretty well with mem_used-buffers-cache. This is always the
case after a fresh boot and seems to be the case on most other servers.
But that's not the case here:

59098540k used - 1633832k cached - 25824k buffers = 57438884 (54.7G)
supposedly used by all processes
sum(RES column from top) ~= 35127296k (33.5G)

So where's the other 21G??

I'm pretty sure I'm not nitpicking here, this is >30% of total system
RAM unaccounted for. I've tried stopping all non-OS specific processes
(and restarting some services that seemed to eat more RAM that they
should have (irqbalance)) -- and memory is not reclaimed.

Over the few years that I've seen this problem, I've already replaced
all the hardware and upgraded Fedora from 8 to 14 (currently running
2.6.35.14-95.fc14.x86_64) and MySQL and other code without any sign of
improvement.

Interestingly, another machine with same hardware & OS runs MySQL in
slave mode to replicate the DB -- that machine has uptime of 134 days
and does not exhibit the same symptoms. In fact, here is its mem footprint:

63166496k used - 19786032k cached - 2881484k buffers = 40498980k (38.6G)
sum(RES column from top) ~= 45.5G (which makes sense since a few
RAM-hungry processes share memory)


We've seen this before in some of our MySQL platforms. It appears that
some of the older MySQL servers hemorrhage shared memory segments which
will not be reclaimed when the process is terminated.

You might try having a look at the output of ipcs after stopping MySQL
and see if your missing memory is in one or more of the shm segments.
If so, you can reclaim it by using "ipcrm -m ". You'd be
surprised at how many programs don't release IPC resources--especially
if they are rudely terminated (e.g. SIGSEGV or SIGKILL).

Also have a serious look at updating your MySQL platform if possible.
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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Alan Cox]

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:42:24 +
Adam Zilkie  wrote:

> I need F14... upgrading to a new OS is not an option as I'm in an embedded 
> environment and we've committed to F14.
> 
Then you may well be screwed. The usual reason the drive isn't found is
that your hardware is too new for the OS version and it doesn't know the
PCI identifiers. As F14 won't be upgraded you'll need to build yourself
various new components at which point it's not FC14.

You might be able to get stuff to work if the problem is a new
motherboard type which defaults to the disk in legacy mode. If you have a
BIOS or EFI option to put the disk controller it in AHCI mode that may do
the trick.

You'll still need to replace various packages for security reasons so
you'll end up with something that isn't FC14. It's a meaningless
definition anyway, count how many packages in FC14 as released are the
same in FC14 when it was end of life .. so staying with an FC14 release
even over its lifetime is in all but name little different to changing
release.

This is why for most product you really don't want to be using Fedora and
someone probably goofed in deciding to do so, as you'll now need to
actively track and fix all the known relevant security holes in packages
used in your deployment. That's a lot of manpower compared with using a
distro that does the work for you!

Alan
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Syncing with MTP devices

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

F16 fully updated.

I've been trying to sync music with my Galaxy Nexus, connected by USB
cable. Fedora recognizes the device, but none of the apps I've tried
will sync to it. So far I've tried:

Amarok: on copying an album, at most a random 2 or 3 tracks succeed,
then the UI freezes for a long time.

Rhythmbox: copying even one track gets an error popup about not being
able to determine free space.

Banshee: can't see the device

Mtpfs (a FUSE filesystem for MTP): can see the phone's file structure
but won't copy anything to it. No errors, just doesn't do anything.

Ironically, one of my reasons for moving from iPhone to Android was the
hope of better Linux support ...

poc

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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[jdow]

On 2012/04/27 14:43, Andy Blanchard wrote:

On 27 April 2012 22:18, jdow mailto:j...@earthlink.net>> 
wrote:

Now that you've had your rant, he is talking an embedded system. Remember
that when you contemplate the following. Suppose for a moment that this
is a theatrical lighting console application. (I know of at least one that
runs Linux  underneath.) It won't be connected to the Internet, at least
not directly. If the theater's system architect has the brains God gave
a toad or if he's been reading the right lists he'll know to put the
theatrical control Ethernet on its own wires or at least its own virtual
network if glitches can be tolerated. One node would provide for the
business office monitoring of the network with a strong firewall running
on a machine running no services.


OK, that piqued my curiosity enough to make me put away the popcorn.  OP's
domain was "datacast.com ", which didn't bode well for the
"disconnected" aspect and one quick look at www.datacast.com
 seems to confirm that.  They make appliances for
streaming media content between the content makers and those who are going to
broadcast it, some of which are IP enabled, (which fits with the 2TB HDD
mentioned - it's probably for local buffering).  I doubt very much that data
transfer is going to be entirely over private circuits, somehow...  Hopefully,
yes, given the media business' paranoia over piracy, but in practice - I think 
not.


For about 8 years in the previous decade I worked in that industry. It is
rather difficult to get software updates into their offices even working
from the inside even with remarkably small stations.

From another angle the cost of downtime due to a rather typical (even with
Centos) update issue is very high. The cost of getting hacked is much lower,
at the moment. So they make the reliability decision. Unwise or not this is
a customer driven issue. "Embedded" means, to them, that it is not going to
change and possibly cost them revenue. They don't operate on big margins that
could absorb thousands of dollars a minute outages.

{^_^}
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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Andy Blanchard]

On 27 April 2012 22:18, jdow  wrote:

> Now that you've had your rant, he is talking an embedded system. Remember
> that when you contemplate the following. Suppose for a moment that this
> is a theatrical lighting console application. (I know of at least one that
> runs Linux  underneath.) It won't be connected to the Internet, at least
> not directly. If the theater's system architect has the brains God gave
> a toad or if he's been reading the right lists he'll know to put the
> theatrical control Ethernet on its own wires or at least its own virtual
> network if glitches can be tolerated. One node would provide for the
> business office monitoring of the network with a strong firewall running
> on a machine running no services.
>

OK, that piqued my curiosity enough to make me put away the popcorn.  OP's
domain was "datacast.com", which didn't bode well for the "disconnected"
aspect and one quick look at www.datacast.com seems to confirm that.  They
make appliances for streaming media content between the content makers and
those who are going to broadcast it, some of which are IP enabled, (which
fits with the 2TB HDD mentioned - it's probably for local buffering).  I
doubt very much that data transfer is going to be entirely over private
circuits, somehow...  Hopefully, yes, given the media business' paranoia
over piracy, but in practice - I think not.

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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[jdow]

On 2012/04/27 14:27, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 23:18, schrieb jdow:

On 2012/04/27 13:57, Reindl Harald wrote:

the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science
making no upgrade and run a KNOWN vulnerable system because
fear you could make a mistake with the new one is the wrong way

you are still making the mistake by install a vulnerable system

and yes, i am a little bit sensible since many of the attacks
in the last months and especially last days coming from poorly
maintained machines all over the wolrd and nobdy pays me my lifetime
wasting with such issues caused by others


Now that you've had your rant, he is talking an embedded system. Remember
that when you contemplate the following. Suppose for a moment that this
is a theatrical lighting console application. (I know of at least one that
runs Linux  underneath.) It won't be connected to the Internet, at least
not directly.


that still does not explain why not using a distribution which offers
secruity updates for ten years like CentOS6 which is based on fedora
AND even offers GNOME2 - sorry there is simply no reason using fedora
14 as abse for anything in this world

i saw so many people failing by "security is not relvent here and there"

what are you doing with F14 on new hardware when you get no kernel updates?
CentOS get's kernel updates with recent hardware drivers
only this should explain why choosing a EOL F14 for embedded is stupid


For a lightboard with everything embedded and large portions on fixed storage
you don't want or have facilities for updates. You want stability. You have
your head stuck on update rather than stability. Or are you telling me that
Linux is basically not a secure operating system and desperately needs daily
update capability in order to survive? What OS would you suggest they use for
an embedded system?

Bring some flexibility to your thinking. And do give other people some credit
for having IQs above that of field mouse. It would help your image.

{o.o}
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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 23:18, schrieb jdow:
> On 2012/04/27 13:57, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science
>> making no upgrade and run a KNOWN vulnerable system because
>> fear you could make a mistake with the new one is the wrong way
>>
>> you are still making the mistake by install a vulnerable system
>>
>> and yes, i am a little bit sensible since many of the attacks
>> in the last months and especially last days coming from poorly
>> maintained machines all over the wolrd and nobdy pays me my lifetime
>> wasting with such issues caused by others
> 
> Now that you've had your rant, he is talking an embedded system. Remember
> that when you contemplate the following. Suppose for a moment that this
> is a theatrical lighting console application. (I know of at least one that
> runs Linux  underneath.) It won't be connected to the Internet, at least
> not directly. 

that still does not explain why not using a distribution which offers
secruity updates for ten years like CentOS6 which is based on fedora
AND even offers GNOME2 - sorry there is simply no reason using fedora
14 as abse for anything in this world

i saw so many people failing by "security is not relvent here and there"

what are you doing with F14 on new hardware when you get no kernel updates?
CentOS get's kernel updates with recent hardware drivers
only this should explain why choosing a EOL F14 for embedded is stupid





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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 02:09 PM, jdow wrote:

OK. How far down?


[[plug your ears and close your eyes if you're a prude]]

Oh jdow, you busted my gut with that one.  "On the down low".

Happy Friday all :m)

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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[jdow]

On 2012/04/27 13:57, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:48, schrieb Mike Wright:

On 04/27/2012 01:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:

On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:

Hi,

I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:

“No driver found”

“Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
Would you like to manually select your
driver or use a driver disk?”


why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15


Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)


i am KDE user


Starting to sound like a smart choice.



don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
internet because infected machines are typically used
to attack machines from people who care about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
security updates


Please do chill out, Reindl.  I'm about as paranoid as they come and do not 
take security mindlessly.  Using a
system with which I am unfamiliar and whose new control systems baffle me would 
seem to make me a major candidate
as a target by those more familiar with it than I.


the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science
making no upgrade and run a KNOWN vulnerable system because
fear you could make a mistake with the new one is the wrong way

you are still making the mistake by install a vulnerable system

and yes, i am a little bit sensible since many of the attacks
in the last months and especially last days coming from poorly
maintained machines all over the wolrd and nobdy pays me my lifetime
wasting with such issues caused by others


Now that you've had your rant, he is talking an embedded system. Remember
that when you contemplate the following. Suppose for a moment that this
is a theatrical lighting console application. (I know of at least one that
runs Linux  underneath.) It won't be connected to the Internet, at least
not directly. If the theater's system architect has the brains God gave
a toad or if he's been reading the right lists he'll know to put the
theatrical control Ethernet on its own wires or at least its own virtual
network if glitches can be tolerated. One node would provide for the
business office monitoring of the network with a strong firewall running
on a machine running no services.

So the machine would be adequately safe even if it was running Hurricane
or some other horibly old distribution.

So while they might have done better picking Centos of some vintage the
degree to which it would be better for the cited application is too small
to sweat.

PS: You're so overwrought by the top posting or something you've forgotten
how to spell there at the end, "wolrd" and "nobdy". Calm down. The world is
not ending.

{^_^}
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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 23:09, schrieb jdow:
> OK. How far down?
> 
> {O.o}You are getting silly, ya know.
> 
> On 2012/04/27 13:54, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> damned do not top-post if all other answers are on bottom
>> fixed ->  scroll down please

no, silly are people who are unable to use a mailprogram and
unable to understand that a thread where replies are ordered
randomly top and bottom the posting before are unreadable



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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 23:06, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 22:48, schrieb Mike Wright:
>>> On 04/27/2012 01:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:
>>>
>>> “No driver found”
>>>
>>> “Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation 
>>> type. Would you like to manually select
>>> your
>>> driver or use a driver disk?”
>>
>> why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
>> EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
>
> Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)

 i am KDE user
>>>
>>> Starting to sound like a smart choice.
>>>

 don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
 days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
 internet because infected machines are typically used
 to attack machines from people who care about security

 what is your plan?
 staying at F14 forever?

 GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
 or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
 security updates
>>>
>>> Please do chill out, Reindl.  I'm about as paranoid as they come and do not 
>>> take security mindlessly.  Using a
>>> system with which I am unfamiliar and whose new control systems baffle me 
>>> would seem to make me a major candidate
>>> as a target by those more familiar with it than I.
>>
>> the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science
> 
> Says who, Werner von Braun?
> I've been trying to get vnc geometry working within the systemctl methodology 
> for two days.  LOL
> Signed, not a rocket scientist. as always, thank you.

and why are you not simply copy the vnc@.service to 
/etc/systemd/systemd/vnc.service and
change it to a simply "ExecStart" with your needed params like i did with 
openvpn months
ago which has the same "syndrome" with openvpn@?

you have even much more options as with sysv-init-scripts which are permanently
overwritten and much more complex - how would you do things like below
with sysvinit ina clean way?
_

cat /etc/systemd/system/openvpn.service
[Unit]
Description=OpenVPN
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=forking

ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/openvpn --mktun --dev tap0
ExecStartPre=/sbin/ifconfig tap0 0.0.0.0 promisc up
ExecStartPre=/sbin/ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 promisc up
ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/brctl addbr br0
ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/brctl addif br0 eth1 tap0
ExecStartPre=/sbin/ifconfig br0 ** netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast ** up
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon --cd /etc/openvpn/ --config openvpn.conf
ExecStartPost=-/sbin/sysctl -e -p
ExecStartPost=-/sbin/sysctl -e -w net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables=0
ExecStartPost=-/sbin/sysctl -e -w net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables=0
ExecStartPost=-/sbin/route add -net ** netmask 255.255.255.0 gw ** dev 
eth0

ExecStopPost=/sbin/ifconfig br0 down
ExecStopPost=/usr/sbin/brctl delbr br0
ExecStopPost=/usr/sbin/openvpn --rmtun --dev tap0
ExecStopPost=/sbin/ifconfig eth1 ** netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast ** 
up

Restart=always
RestartSec=1

[Install]

WantedBy=multi-user.target



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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[jdow]

OK. How far down?

{O.o}   You are getting silly, ya know.

On 2012/04/27 13:54, Reindl Harald wrote:


damned do not top-post if all other answers are on bottom
fixed ->  scroll down please


-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
Sent: April-27-12 4:32 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using 
netinstall


  On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is EOL, get
no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15


Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)


i am KDE user

don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these days is simply idiotic 
- please do not connect
it to the internet because infected machines are typically used to attack 
machines from people who care
about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE or install CentOS to have 
some years a GNOME2 OS with security updates


Am 27.04.2012 22:42, schrieb Adam Zilkie:

I need F14... upgrading to a new OS is not an option as I'm in an embedded 
environment
and we've committed to F14.

Adam Zilkie
Software Developer, Embedded Software Group
International Datacasting Corporation
tel: (613) 596-2400 ext. 2244


in other words you have made a major mistake by using a distribution with
upgrades every 6 months by not thinking about what this means within
a year and now you are putting your head in the sand

and please do not tell me about "embedded environment" since two days ago
our router (which was EOL after 2 years, thank you bintec) was killed
by anonymous - this happens if vendors are not thinking what effect their
wrong decisions will have for endusers





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Memory loss after long uptime

[Konstantin Svist]

Hi all,

I have a strange recurring problem on some of my servers, maybe someone 
can help me figure out what might be causing it.


After running a MySQL machine with fairly high load for a while 
(~month), RAM usage in top stops making sense. Normally, RES column 
accounts for everything currently present in RAM (not swap) and 
corresponds pretty well with mem_used-buffers-cache. This is always the 
case after a fresh boot and seems to be the case on most other servers.

But that's not the case here:

59098540k used - 1633832k cached - 25824k buffers = 57438884 (54.7G) 
supposedly used by all processes

sum(RES column from top) ~= 35127296k (33.5G)

So where's the other 21G??

I'm pretty sure I'm not nitpicking here, this is >30% of total system 
RAM unaccounted for. I've tried stopping all non-OS specific processes 
(and restarting some services that seemed to eat more RAM that they 
should have (irqbalance)) -- and memory is not reclaimed.


Over the few years that I've seen this problem, I've already replaced 
all the hardware and upgraded Fedora from 8 to 14 (currently running 
2.6.35.14-95.fc14.x86_64) and MySQL and other code without any sign of 
improvement.


Interestingly, another machine with same hardware & OS runs MySQL in 
slave mode to replicate the DB -- that machine has uptime of 134 days 
and does not exhibit the same symptoms. In fact, here is its mem footprint:


63166496k used - 19786032k cached - 2881484k buffers = 40498980k (38.6G)
sum(RES column from top) ~= 45.5G (which makes sense since a few 
RAM-hungry processes share memory)


Please help!

top - 13:19:00 up 41 days,  2:29, 25 users,  load average: 3.44, 4.32, 3.97
Tasks: 349 total,   2 running, 347 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  : 76.5%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 23.5%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  :  0.0%us,  5.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 29.4%id, 64.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu2  :  5.9%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 88.2%id,  5.9%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu3  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu4  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu5  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu6  :  5.6%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu7  :  5.3%us,  5.3%sy, 15.8%ni, 73.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu8  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu9  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu10 :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu11 :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:  66110332k total, 59098540k used,  7011792k free,25824k buffers
Swap:  8388604k total,  4009604k used,  4379000k free,  1633832k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 3953 mysql 20   0 34.7g  30g 4000 S 80.0 48.5  57931:46 
/usr/local/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local/mysql 
--datadir=/usr/local/mysql/var --user=mysql --log-error=/usr/loc
 3132 wrkr  20   0 2931m 2.4g 1476 R  5.7  3.8   1219:32 
/usr/local/bin/python ...
10921 wrkr  20   0 9184m 483m 3080 S  0.0  0.7  43:03.02 
/usr/local/bin/python ...
26682 wrkr  30  10  261m 118m 1048 S 11.4  0.2  11:47.18 mytop
 2548 wrkr  20   0  520m  94m 1388 S  0.0  0.1 116:57.50 
/usr/local/bin/python ...
 4046 wrkr  20   0  181m  59m  228 S  0.0  0.1  17:30.62 SCREEN -a -A
 3009 redis 20   0  132m  45m  380 S  0.0  0.1 974:29.29 
/usr/local/redis/bin/redis-server ...conf
 4228 nobody20   0  302m  32m  132 S  0.0  0.1   0:14.33 nginx: worker 
process
 4232 nobody20   0  302m  32m   44 S  0.0  0.1   0:10.04 nginx: worker 
process
 4230 nobody20   0  302m  32m0 S  0.0  0.1   0:14.73 nginx: worker 
process
 4226 nobody20   0  302m  32m0 S  0.0  0.1   0:14.49 nginx: worker 
process
 4231 nobody20   0  302m  32m   56 S  0.0  0.1   0:13.01 nginx: worker 
process
 4233 nobody20   0  302m  32m   60 S  0.0  0.1   0:14.36 nginx: worker 
process
 4235 nobody20   0  302m  32m   32 S  0.0  0.1   0:14.35 nginx: worker 
process
 4229 nobody20   0  298m  32m0 S  0.0  0.1   0:15.37 nginx: worker 
process
 4227 nobody20   0  302m  32m   12 S  0.0  0.1   0:15.49 nginx: worker 
process
 4234 nobody20   0  302m  32m0 S  0.0  0.1   0:15.46 nginx: worker 
process
10300 root  20   0  298m  32m0 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.28 nginx: master 
process /usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx -c /usr/local/nginx/conf/nginx.conf
 3185 wrkr  20   0  255m  17m  416 S  0.0  0.0  18:12.48 
/usr/local/bin/python ...
 3067 wrkr  20   0  247m  12m0 S  0.0  0.0  12:23.26 
/usr/local/bin/python ...
 5186 gdm   20   0  443m 9644   28 S  0.0  0.0   1:26.96 
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon 
--gconf-prefix=/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins
 4031 root  20   0  133m 9564  684 S  0.0  0.0   2:32.52 /usr/bin/

Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:48, schrieb Mike Wright:

On 04/27/2012 01:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:

On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:

Hi,

I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:

“No driver found”

“Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
Would you like to manually select your
driver or use a driver disk?”


why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15


Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)


i am KDE user


Starting to sound like a smart choice.



don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
internet because infected machines are typically used
to attack machines from people who care about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
security updates


Please do chill out, Reindl.  I'm about as paranoid as they come and do not 
take security mindlessly.  Using a
system with which I am unfamiliar and whose new control systems baffle me would 
seem to make me a major candidate
as a target by those more familiar with it than I.


the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science


Says who, Werner von Braun?

I've been trying to get vnc geometry working within the systemctl 
methodology for two days.  LOL


Signed, not a rocket scientist. as always, thank you.



making no upgrade and run a KNOWN vulnerable system because
fear you could make a mistake with the new one is the wrong way

you are still making the mistake by install a vulnerable system

and yes, i am a little bit sensible since many of the attacks
in the last months and especially last days coming from poorly
maintained machines all over the wolrd and nobdy pays me my lifetime
wasting with such issues caused by others






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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 22:48, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/27/2012 01:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:
>>> On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
> Hi,
>
> I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:
>
> “No driver found”
>
> “Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation 
> type. Would you like to manually select your
> driver or use a driver disk?”

 why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
 EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
>>>
>>> Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)
>>
>> i am KDE user
> 
> Starting to sound like a smart choice.
> 
>>
>> don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
>> days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
>> internet because infected machines are typically used
>> to attack machines from people who care about security
>>
>> what is your plan?
>> staying at F14 forever?
>>
>> GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
>> or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
>> security updates
> 
> Please do chill out, Reindl.  I'm about as paranoid as they come and do not 
> take security mindlessly.  Using a
> system with which I am unfamiliar and whose new control systems baffle me 
> would seem to make me a major candidate
> as a target by those more familiar with it than I.

the core-system is exactly the same, systemd is no rocket science
making no upgrade and run a KNOWN vulnerable system because
fear you could make a mistake with the new one is the wrong way

you are still making the mistake by install a vulnerable system

and yes, i am a little bit sensible since many of the attacks
in the last months and especially last days coming from poorly
maintained machines all over the wolrd and nobdy pays me my lifetime
wasting with such issues caused by others



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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

damned do not top-post if all other answers are on bottom
fixed -> scroll down please

> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
> [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
> Sent: April-27-12 4:32 PM
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using 
> netinstall
> 
>>>  On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is EOL, get
>>> no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
>>
>> Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)
> 
> i am KDE user
> 
> don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these days is simply 
> idiotic - please do not connect 
> it to the internet because infected machines are typically used to attack 
> machines from people who care 
> about security
> 
> what is your plan?
> staying at F14 forever?
> 
> GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE or install CentOS to have 
> some years a GNOME2 OS with security updates

Am 27.04.2012 22:42, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
> I need F14... upgrading to a new OS is not an option as I'm in an embedded 
> environment
> and we've committed to F14.
>
> Adam Zilkie
> Software Developer, Embedded Software Group
> International Datacasting Corporation
> tel: (613) 596-2400 ext. 2244

in other words you have made a major mistake by using a distribution with
upgrades every 6 months by not thinking about what this means within
a year and now you are putting your head in the sand

and please do not tell me about "embedded environment" since two days ago
our router (which was EOL after 2 years, thank you bintec) was killed
by anonymous - this happens if vendors are not thinking what effect their
wrong decisions will have for endusers



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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 01:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:

On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:

Hi,

I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:

“No driver found”

“Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
Would you like to manually select your
driver or use a driver disk?”


why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15


Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)


i am KDE user


Starting to sound like a smart choice.



don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
internet because infected machines are typically used
to attack machines from people who care about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
security updates


Please do chill out, Reindl.  I'm about as paranoid as they come and do 
not take security mindlessly.  Using a system with which I am unfamiliar 
and whose new control systems baffle me would seem to make me a major 
candidate as a target by those more familiar with it than I.


Regardless, I always appreciate your help.

Thank you,
Mike Wright







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RE: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Adam Zilkie]

I need F14... upgrading to a new OS is not an option as I'm in an embedded 
environment and we've committed to F14.

Adam Zilkie
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tel: (613) 596-2400 ext. 2244


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Subject: Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using 
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Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:
>>>
>>> “No driver found”
>>>
>>> “Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation
>>> type. Would you like to manually select your driver or use a driver disk?”
>>
>> why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is EOL, get
>> no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
>
> Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)

i am KDE user

don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these days is simply idiotic 
- please do not connect it to the internet because infected machines are 
typically used to attack machines from people who care about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE or install CentOS to have 
some years a GNOME2 OS with security updates



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Re: systemctl question

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Wright  wrote:

Hi all,

While trying to get vncserver working I found this within

/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service file.

/usr/bin/vncserver %i

What is %i?

Can anybody explain from where this syntax derives?


It appears the "@" allows the service to run multiple instances, which
I can see as a good thing for vnc. In order to start the service I
think you'll need to name your instance, i.e.:

systemctl start vncserver@.service

and the "%i" will resolve to your instance designator.

Or that's what this link[1] said :)


However did you find that?  I do thank you for that bit of obscurity. 
Too bad it's not in the man page.




Richard

http://superuser.com/questions/393423/the-symbol-and-systemctl-and-vsftpd


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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 22:29, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:
>>>
>>> “No driver found”
>>>
>>> “Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
>>> Would you like to manually select your
>>> driver or use a driver disk?”
>>
>> why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
>> EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
> 
> Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)

i am KDE user

don't get me wrong - installing a non supported OS these
days is simply idiotic - please do not connect it to the
internet because infected machines are typically used
to attack machines from people who care about security

what is your plan?
staying at F14 forever?

GNOME2 will never come back - switch to another DE
or install CentOS to have some years a GNOME2 OS with
security updates



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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 01:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:

Hi,

I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:

“No driver found”

“Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
Would you like to manually select your
driver or use a driver disk?”


why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15


Gnome 3? hahaha.  Now laugh, Reindl ;)
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Re: systemctl question

[Richard Shaw]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Wright  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While trying to get vncserver working I found this within
>
>    /lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service file.
>
>        /usr/bin/vncserver %i
>
> What is %i?
>
> Can anybody explain from where this syntax derives?

It appears the "@" allows the service to run multiple instances, which
I can see as a good thing for vnc. In order to start the service I
think you'll need to name your instance, i.e.:

systemctl start vncserver@.service

and the "%i" will resolve to your instance designator.

Or that's what this link[1] said :)

Richard

http://superuser.com/questions/393423/the-symbol-and-systemctl-and-vsftpd
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Re: "No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 22:05, schrieb Adam Zilkie:
> Hi,
> 
> I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:
> 
> “No driver found”
> 
> “Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
> Would you like to manually select your
> driver or use a driver disk?”

why in the world are you installing NOW Fedora 14 which is
EOL, get no longer any security updates and even Fedora 15
will be EOL in 2 months?



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"No driver found" when installing F14 to a 2TB drive using netinstall

[Adam Zilkie]

Hi,

I am getting the following error message during my F14 installation:

“No driver found”
“Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation type. 
Would you like to manually select your driver or use a driver disk?”

I get this error only when installing to a 2TB hard drive and using the F14 
netinstall. The installation works fine using a smaller hard drive (250GB). The 
installation also works fine using the 2TB hard drive when using the F14 DVD 
image, and also when using the F16 netinstall image.

Thanks for your help.




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systemctl question

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

While trying to get vncserver working I found this within

/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service file.

/usr/bin/vncserver %i

What is %i?

Can anybody explain from where this syntax derives?

TIA (and befuddled, meanwhile :),
Mike Wright
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Re: general problem -> Re: Fedora 16 and the 3.3.1-3 kernel

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.04.2012 20:57, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 23.04.2012 01:02, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
>>> I would try the current kernel first, 3.3.1-5, although I did not have any 
>>> such problem as you report with 3.3.1-3,
>>> x86_64.
>>
>> no 3.3.1 is the current one, 3.3.2 is current
>>
> If you say so... my kernel is 3.3.1-5 and doing a software update assures me 
> that "All software is up to date" so I
> have no idea where you get new kernels, unless you are running from testing 
> or rawhide. 

file a bugreport against your mirrors!
really!






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Re: f16, vncserver, screen geometry

[Mike Wright]

On 04/27/2012 10:30 AM, Lets Go Canes wrote:

I guess this is two questions in one.  1) Has the
config file for vncserver moved or is f16's vncserver
implementation broken?


It has moved and now has a different format.  Copy 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service to 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@:1.service (change :1 to whatever vnc display 
number you want to use), and then edit it to have the correct username.  I use 
the following lines in mine:

ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1100x900


Thanks for the response, LGC.

Here is my config line:

ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l mike -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 
1670x1020 -name f16"


Did:
systemctl stop vncserver@:1.service
systemctl daemon-reload
systemctl start vncserver@:1.service

which throws no errors, starts, and still gives a small screen.

Anything obvious to you?  Oblivious to me ;/
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Re: general problem -> Re: Fedora 16 and the 3.3.1-3 kernel

[Andy Blanchard]

On 27 April 2012 19:57, Bill Davidsen  wrote:


> If you say so... my kernel is 3.3.1-5 and doing a software update assures
> me that "All software is up to date" so I have no idea where you get new
> kernels, unless you are running from testing or rawhide. In any case, a
> quick look at the subject suggests that the O.P. isn't even running updated
> production software versions.
>

Last three kernels I have installed:

$  rpm -q kernel
kernel-3.3.1-5.fc16.x86_64
kernel-3.3.2-1.fc16.x86_64
kernel-3.3.2-6.fc16.x86_64

All from updates channel.  3.3.2-6 is current as of 24th April.

Perhaps your preferred updates mirror isn't updating itself as quickly as
some others?

Anyway, latest versions are always available from here:

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/

and all previous package releases are available from Koji, here:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packages

Regards,

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Re: general problem -> Re: Fedora 16 and the 3.3.1-3 kernel

[Bill Davidsen]

Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 23.04.2012 01:02, schrieb Bill Davidsen:

udevd[187]: timeout '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3'
udevd[187]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3' [332]
udevd[187]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3' [332]
udevd[187]: '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3' [332] terminated by signal 9
(Killed)
udevd[185]: timeout '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/dm-0'
udevd[185]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/dm-0' [385]
udevd[185]: '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/dm-0' [385] terminated by signal 9
(Killed)

I can say that the previous kernels boot just fine (3.3.0-8) and I have no
trouble with them. Any ideas on what I can look at? Maybe file a bug report?


I would try the current kernel first, 3.3.1-5, although I did not have any such 
problem as you report with 3.3.1-3,
x86_64.


no 3.3.1 is the current one, 3.3.2 is current

If you say so... my kernel is 3.3.1-5 and doing a software update assures me 
that "All software is up to date" so I have no idea where you get new kernels, 
unless you are running from testing or rawhide. In any case, a quick look at the 
subject suggests that the O.P. isn't even running updated production software 
versions.



but the whole 3.3 line until now elaborates on the same problem
not at each boot, mostly only slower but terrible at all

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806548
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805317

i post a copy to the devel-list
maybe someone cosiders "CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ=n" because
this is the change in 3.3 and seems to be the root cause
of all this troubles

my first bug report is now more than a month old and
there are built one kernel after the next with the
same problem

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: [systemd-devel] systemd / udev / kernel 3.3 / vmware
Datum: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:01:04 +0200
Von: Lennart Poettering
Organisation: Red Hat, Inc.
An: Reindl Harald
Kopie (CC): Mailing-List systemd

On Sat, 21.04.12 13:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:


can someone please take a look at this F16 report?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806548

* boot sometimes terrible slow
* randomly boot fails with udev crashing / timeout
* shutdown terrible slow
* partly also on physical machines but not sooo slow

since most of the boot time is consumed by udev and
the terrible slow shutdown of>  30 seconds happens
while unmounting "old..." i guess this is not only
the kernel

feels like interaction between kernel/udev/systemd

on shutdown / reboot i can randomly see each single
unmounting line for 1-2 seconds, this is odd

i have virtual machines which booted in 5-6 seconds
and are now degraded up to 1 minute


The bug report suggests this was about a kernel feature
(CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ=y) and not related to systemd, no?




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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds

[Bill Davidsen]

Robert P. J. Day wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Ian Pilcher wrote:


On 04/26/2012 02:45 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Can anyone explain this?  How can it be fixed?  Do some services need to
be started on the server?

The server is "weather".  This log is from the client:
 # mount -t nfs weather:/home/jonrysh /mnt/weather
 # ls /mnt/weather
 Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  
Videos  grub2
 # umount /mnt/weather
 # mount -t nfs4 weather:/home/jonrysh /mnt/weather
 mount.nfs4: mounting weather:/home/jonrysh failed, reason given by 
server:
   No such file or directory
 #
Thanks in advance - jon


NFSv4 works very differently from previous versions.  You should be
able to Google up plenty of documentation.

The key point is that you can't just switch between v3 and v4
without reconfiguring things.


   possibly off-topic but a long, long, *long* time ago, i wondered if
you could set up a network using *exclusively* NFSv4, and found it was
impossible -- at least one of the client programs required some
earlier version of NFS even if it wasn't being used.

   any clarification on whether one can run a *purely* NFSv4 network?

I see no reason why not. On all machines at one site nfs4 is used to provide 
idmap capability. That's the only kind of mount used, and a long look with 
wireshark shows all nfs packets were V4, so I empirically conclude it works.


You have to diddle the firewall to get nfs3 to work IIRC.

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Re: f16, vncserver, screen geometry

[Bill Davidsen]

Lets Go Canes wrote:

I guess this is two questions in one.  1) Has the
config file for vncserver moved or is f16's vncserver
implementation broken?


It has moved and now has a different format.  Copy 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service to 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@:1.service (change :1 to whatever vnc display 
number you want to use), and then edit it to have the correct username.  I use 
the following lines in mine:

ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1100x900
ExecStop=/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i

where %i is the username defiend earlier in the file.


   2) Is it possible to add a
custom display size somewhere?  (looking to add
1670x1020).


add the geometry argument as above.

[I am thinking there may have been another step or two to add the customized 
file to systemctl, but it escapes me at the moment.]

Note that in my experience, vncserver does not start properly as part of system 
boot.  I have to login over ssh and issue the systemctl start command by-hand.  
Another poster told me they had a similar problem, and use a cron job to make 
sure it is started.

I sometimes do this another way, using the "-vnc N" option to kvm, starting some 
VMs from command line. That doesn't seem to have an option to set the geometry 
(I might have missed it) but in looking at one VM I use, which I created by "dd" 
to a file from the original drive, it had VNC access enabled and I can get at it 
using a VNC connection to the host or to the VM. I'm not sure this is good for 
anything, but it's a way to allow VNC access to machines which can't provide 
their own, so I though I'd mention it.


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Re: f16, vncserver, screen geometry

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/27/2012 10:30 AM, Lets Go Canes wrote:

Note that in my experience, vncserver does not start properly as part of system 
boot.  I have to login over ssh and issue the systemctl start command by-hand.  
Another poster told me they had a similar problem, and use a cron job to make 
sure it is started.


It might be enough to put the command in rc.local.
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Re: f16, vncserver, screen geometry

[Lets Go Canes]

> I guess this is two questions in one.  1) Has the
> config file for vncserver moved or is f16's vncserver
> implementation broken?

It has moved and now has a different format.  Copy 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service to 
/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@:1.service (change :1 to whatever vnc display 
number you want to use), and then edit it to have the correct username.  I use 
the following lines in mine:

ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1100x900
ExecStop=/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i

where %i is the username defiend earlier in the file.

>  2) Is it possible to add a
> custom display size somewhere?  (looking to add
> 1670x1020).

add the geometry argument as above.

[I am thinking there may have been another step or two to add the customized 
file to systemctl, but it escapes me at the moment.]

Note that in my experience, vncserver does not start properly as part of system 
boot.  I have to login over ssh and issue the systemctl start command by-hand.  
Another poster told me they had a similar problem, and use a cron job to make 
sure it is started.

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Re: [389-users] Several questions

[Noriko Hosoi]

Hi Moisés,

Moisés Barba Pérez wrote:

Hi,

I have replaced the OID and now there is no syntax error. The ticket 
is https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/349.

Thanks!


I have perform this ldif:

dn: cn=schema
changetype: modify
add: attributeTypes
attributeTypes: ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.3023 NAME 'nsViewFilter' DESC 
'Netscape defined attribute type' SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 
X-ORIGIN 'Netscape Directory Server' )

-

How can I recover the initial configuration of the attributeType I 
have in my schema files 2 lines for nsViewFilter after apply the 
indicated ldif, one with the old OID and in other file one with the 
new OID. I would like to know how to delete the newer in case of 
problems with this OID change.
It's normal.  Please run the next command line and check nsViewFilter.  
You should see just one that you added above.

ldapsearch [...] -b "cn=schema" attributeTypes | grep nsViewFilter

AttributeTypes nsViewFilter is originally defined in 02common.ldif which 
is overridden by your new definition which is stored in the user defined 
schema file 99user.ldif.




In the another hand: in my DS the attribute mail is case-sensitive. If 
I perform the same search as you I get nothing for one of my mail 
attributes whit upper characters. Maybe 389DS in 1.2.5 is 
case-sensitive???
It cannot be...  Could you give us a snippet of your access log 
(/var/log/dirsrv/slapd-ID/access), which includes the SRCH options and 
the result?


[27/Apr/2012:10:05:14 -0700] conn=7 op=1 SRCH base="dc=example,dc=com" 
scope=2 filter="(mail=newuser...@example.com)" attrs="mail"
[27/Apr/2012:10:05:14 -0700] conn=7 op=1 RESULT err=0 tag=101 
*nentries=1* etime=0


[27/Apr/2012:10:05:36 -0700] conn=8 op=1 SRCH base="dc=example,dc=com" 
scope=2 filter="(mail=newuser...@example.com)" attrs="mail"
[27/Apr/2012:10:05:36 -0700] conn=8 op=1 RESULT err=0 tag=101 
*nentries=1* etime=0


Also, if you think the version 1.2.5 is not working well, could you 
upgrade 389-ds-base to the latest and try the same operation?



   389 Directory Server 1.2.10.4 is now available (March 29, 2012)

389 Directory Server 1.2.10.4 is now available from the Stable 
repositories.


 * See the Release Notes
    for more
   information


Thanks,
--noriko


How can I solve this???

Regards,
Moses.


El 26 de abril de 2012 20:41, Noriko Hosoi > escribió:


Moisés Barba Pérez wrote:

Hi,

I have several questions about syntax and attributes, hope you
can help me.

- Why the attribute mail in DS is case sensitive?? Is there any
problem changing it to non case sensitive? If there is no
problem, how can I modify it?

The syntax of mail is IA5 String.

If you have

mail: tus...@example.com 

then this command line returns the expected result.  That is, not
case sensitive.

ldapsearch [...] -b 'dc=example,dc=com'
"(mail=tus...@example.com)"
 mail
mail: tus...@example.com 



- I have a problem whit the syntax of the nsViewFilter attribute,
the value of the attribute is: (ou=*ou=D.
PERIÓDICO,o=x,dc=,dc=). I guess the problem is the
character "Ó" but if it is possible to create the ou with special
characters, should be possible create a nsViewFilter with special
characters to??? (389DS 1.2.5)

Currently, the syntax of nsViewFilter is IA5 String, which does
not allow non-ascii characters.
attributeTypes: ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.3023 NAME 'nsViewFilter'
DESC 'Netscape defined attribute type' SYNTAX
*1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.26* X-ORIGIN 'Netscape Directory Server' )

Indeed, it'd be a needless restriction for nsViewFilter.  Please
open a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/389/newticket.

In the meantime, could you replace *1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.26*
with 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15, and try?




- I have read about the attribute nsslapd-allidsthreshold and its
use in older versions. I have 389DS 1.2.5, have I to use it or it
is deprecated??? I have search this parameters in my ldap servers
and someones have it, and others don't, maybe this behaviour is
because of actualizations of the DS but I would like to know if
in 1.2.5 is needed or if i can delete it.

nsslapd-allidsthreshold is replaced with nsslapd-idlistscanlimit
in 389-ds-base.  Not like nsslapd-allidsthreshold,
nsslapd-idlistscanlimit is used just by the search operation and
you can dynamically change the value.  If the IDlist length is
larger than the nsslapd-idlistscanlimit value, DS gives up
generating the IDlist and uses ALLID, which scans all the entries
in the primary database.


Thank you in advance.

Moses.


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f16, vncserver, screen geometry

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

Finally have f16 installed into a xen box.

After some confusion with systemctl I managed to get vncserver hooked up 
and started; however, it's config file (/etc/sysconfig/vncservers) seems 
to get ignored WRT -geometry.


I use that same file on all of my other fedoras without a hitch.

I did find that I could enlarge the vnc window by using f16's 
systemSettings->display but none of the the built-in resolution choices 
fit my display full screen: either too small or too large with scroll bars.


Ideally vncserver would honor the -geometry setting in its config file 
but since the vncserver window's size can be forced by changing the 
display's size it should be possible to add another size to the list of 
those available.


I guess this is two questions in one.  1) Has the config file for 
vncserver moved or is f16's vncserver implementation broken?  2) Is it 
possible to add a custom display size somewhere?  (looking to add 
1670x1020).


Thanks for any help,
Mike Wright
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Re: Which Windows for Virtual Box ? (F16, USB, etc)

[David]

On 4/27/2012 8:54 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
> On 04/26/2012 06:34 PM, Claude Jones wrote:
>> On 04/25/2012 06:10 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>>> I'm using Windows XP in Virtual Box, mainly because I had a spare
>>> license for it.  I give it 1.0GB  and it does OK.
>>
>> surely, you must mean 10GB - I just spent considerable time yesterday
>> struggling with space issues on two XP VMs that had been allotted 10 GB
>> - unless the OP is really struggling with space issues and is absolutely
>> certain they will never install much on their XP VMs, I would recommend
>> 15 GB allocations - hard drive space is cheap
>>
> 1GB (memory) and 30GB (disk)


Just as you can add 'additional hard drives' to a real computer you can
add multiple VM 'drives' to a Virtualbox VM system.

Windows XP, for this example could have a C:\, and a D:\, and an E:\,
etc. Saving one slot for the optical drive of course.  :-)

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Re: Which Windows for Virtual Box ? (F16, USB, etc)

[Steven Stern]

On 04/26/2012 06:34 PM, Claude Jones wrote:
> On 04/25/2012 06:10 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>> I'm using Windows XP in Virtual Box, mainly because I had a spare
>> license for it.  I give it 1.0GB  and it does OK.
> 
> surely, you must mean 10GB - I just spent considerable time yesterday
> struggling with space issues on two XP VMs that had been allotted 10 GB
> - unless the OP is really struggling with space issues and is absolutely
> certain they will never install much on their XP VMs, I would recommend
> 15 GB allocations - hard drive space is cheap
> 
1GB (memory) and 30GB (disk).

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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Ed Greshko]

On 04/27/2012 05:14 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 16:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> First, it may be helpful for you to post the contents of your
>> server's /etc/exports
>> and /etc/fstab.
> Here they are.  /etc/exports is much chewed up by many experiments; this
> is its latest incarnation.  /etc/fstab follows.
> $ more exports
> /   amito(rw,fsid=root,no_root_squash)
> # /home/jonrysh amito(rw,no_root_squash)
> # /var  amito(rw,no_root_squash)
> # /nfs4exports  
> 192.168.0.0/24(ro,root_squash,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) 
> 
> # /nfs4exports 
> 192.168.0.0/24(ro,fsid=root,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) 
> # /nfs4exports/home
> 192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
> # /nfs4exports/sbin
> 192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
> 
> # /nfs4exports 
> 192.168.2.5(ro,fsid=root,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) 
> # /nfs4exports/home
> 192.168.2.5(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
> # /nfs4exports/sbin
> 192.168.2.5(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)

For comparison, here is the relevant portion of my exports file

/nfs4exports   
192.168.0.0/24(ro,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check,fsid=0)
/nfs4exports/syntegra  
192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check)
/nfs4exports/myhome
192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check)

> 
> $ more fstab
> # /etc/fstab
> # Created by anaconda on Fri Mar 30 11:08:48 2012
> #
> # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under 
> '/dev/disk'
> # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for 
> more info
> #
> UUID=2df88f7e-a779-401a-8e47-0c32d500b5af /   ext4
> defaults1 1
> UUID=d64559f2-2e25-4a96-a937-bbe06516ab2c /boot   ext4
> defaults1 2
> UUID=2d7ec72f-f9af-4ec8-aff0-03d07ef30b73 /varext4
> defaults1 2
> UUID=5fb1efb6-3e12-437f-a12e-b60cb622d001 swapswap
> defaults0 0

Can we assume you've issued the "mount --bind " commands on your server?  (a df 
would
show it) These don't survive reboots.  So, eventually you will need the 
appropriate
lines in your fstab.  These are mine for reference.

/syntegra   /nfs4exports/syntegra   nonerw,bind 0 0
/home/egreshko  /nfs4exports/myhome nonerw,bind 0 0

and the output of df shows in part...

/syntegra 80634688  58323932  18214756  77% /nfs4exports/syntegra
/home/egreshko   366919872 186333032 161964808  54% /nfs4exports/myhome


>
>> Second, have you modified your idmap.conf such that you have identical
>> Domain =
>> lines?  Note that after modification the nfs-idmap.service needs to be
>> restarted. 
> You must mean /etc/idmapd.conf .  This file is untouched on both client
> and server.  It has a single "Domain = ..." line, which is commented
> out.  

Well, this is mainly used for proper uid/gid mapping between client and server. 
 They
don't have to be "real".  They can be set to mydomain.com or maybe even left
blankcan't recall.

But, you will need to enable nfs-idmap.service on F16 to have your uids/gids 
mapped. 
Otherwise you'll run into read/write permission problems.


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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 17:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/27/2012 04:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Second, have you modified your idmap.conf such that you have identical 
> > Domain =
> > lines?  Note that after modification the nfs-idmap.service needs to be 
> > restarted.

It looks like these lines should be identical in /etc/idmapd.conf
between server client.  As I wrote in my last posting, there are
no such lines (not commented out) in either file.

Thanks - jon



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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 16:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> First, it may be helpful for you to post the contents of your
> server's /etc/exports
> and /etc/fstab.

Here they are.  /etc/exports is much chewed up by many experiments; this
is its latest incarnation.  /etc/fstab follows.
$ more exports
/   amito(rw,fsid=root,no_root_squash)
# /home/jonrysh amito(rw,no_root_squash)
# /var  amito(rw,no_root_squash)
# /nfs4exports  192.168.0.0/24(ro,root_squash,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) 

# /nfs4exports 
192.168.0.0/24(ro,fsid=root,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) 
# /nfs4exports/home
192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
# /nfs4exports/sbin
192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)

# /nfs4exports 
192.168.2.5(ro,fsid=root,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) 
# /nfs4exports/home
192.168.2.5(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
# /nfs4exports/sbin
192.168.2.5(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)

$ more fstab
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Fri Mar 30 11:08:48 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more 
info
#
UUID=2df88f7e-a779-401a-8e47-0c32d500b5af /   ext4
defaults1 1
UUID=d64559f2-2e25-4a96-a937-bbe06516ab2c /boot   ext4
defaults1 2
UUID=2d7ec72f-f9af-4ec8-aff0-03d07ef30b73 /varext4
defaults1 2
UUID=5fb1efb6-3e12-437f-a12e-b60cb622d001 swapswap
defaults0 0

> Second, have you modified your idmap.conf such that you have identical
> Domain =
> lines?  Note that after modification the nfs-idmap.service needs to be
> restarted. 

You must mean /etc/idmapd.conf .  This file is untouched on both client
and server.  It has a single "Domain = ..." line, which is commented
out.  I'm not sure what it should be identical to.  The value of this 
variable should be the local domain name, which is null.
$ dnsdomainname
$ hostname --fqdn
amito

Thanks - jon




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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Ed Greshko]

On 04/27/2012 04:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Second, have you modified your idmap.conf such that you have identical Domain 
> =
> lines?  Note that after modification the nfs-idmap.service needs to be 
> restarted.
You need this on both F16 client and server.  This changes in F17.

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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Ed Greshko]

On 04/27/2012 03:57 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> What a lot of comments!  This deserves a reply at length.  I state a lot
> of things below as fact.  But snce I'm still pretty ignorant about nfs4
> some of them may not be true.  Those who know please put in corrections;
> and we may arrive at the truth about something that's still pretty murky
> to most people.  Comments on particular postings follow.
>
> Nfs4 exports a tree of directories from a server to a client.  The root
> of the tree must be the root of the filesystem on the host and the
> line containing it in /etc/exports must contain the option fsid=root
> (alternately fsid=0).  If such a line appears in /etc/exports then any
> directory on the server can be exported, and the client can mount any
> directory appearing there.  Nfs4 works through a firewall, provided
> that port port 2049/tcp is opened; nfs3 requires that the firewall be
> (completely) disabled.  "showmount -e "  doesn't work through a
> firewall, it appears to be associated with nfs3.  There is no utility
> like it that works through port 2049/tcp; administrators have to know
> which files are available via the nfs4 port from which servers.
>
> There's an intro to setting up nfs4 (link from Ed Greshko) that states
> that the fsid=0 option can be applied to any directory, and then other
> directories to be exported should be (bound to) subdirectories of this
> one; but I haven't been able to get it to work.  Funky problems:
>
> 1) If the client has an actual name or exact IP address in /etc/exports,
> like this line:
> /nfs4   amito:/(rw,fsid=0,...)
> or
> /nfs4   192.168.2.5(rw,fsid=0,...)
> mount attempts fail with the message "No such file or directory".  
>
> 2)If the line in /etc/exports has a form like
> /nfs4   192.168.0.0/24(rw,fsid=0,...)
> mount attempts fail with the message "access denied by server".
> There's probably some problem with the options in the parentheses,
> but I've tried them all, starting with the exact ones in the intro
> without success.  On the other hand, exporting the actual root
> /   amito:(rw,fsid=0,..)
> mounts fine.  
>
> I hope to be enlightened.

A few things

First, it may be helpful for you to post the contents of your server's 
/etc/exports
and /etc/fstab.

Second, have you modified your idmap.conf such that you have identical Domain =
lines?  Note that after modification the nfs-idmap.service needs to be 
restarted.


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Re: mount -t nfs4 fails, but mount -t nfs succeeds [SOLVED]

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:17 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 12:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > Can anyone explain this?  How can it be fixed?  Do some services need to
> > be started on the server?
> > 
> > The server is "weather".  This log is from the client:
> > # mount -t nfs weather:/home/jonrysh /mnt/weather
> > # ls /mnt/weather
> > Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  
> > Videos  grub2
> > # umount /mnt/weather
> > # mount -t nfs4 weather:/home/jonrysh /mnt/weather
> > mount.nfs4: mounting weather:/home/jonrysh failed, reason given by 
> > server:
> >   No such file or directory
> > # 
> Following a suggestion in the Arch Linux Wiki:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFSv4#Exports
> I made this minor edit to /etc/exports on weather (the server)
> 
> Old /etc/exports:
> /   amito(rw,no_root_squash)
> /home/jonrysh   amito(rw,no_root_squash) 
> New /etc/exports:
> /   amito(rw,fsid=0,no_root_squash)
> /home/jonrysh   amito(rw,no_root_squash)
> Note that the addition of "fsid=0" to the entry for the root directory
> allows *both* the root and a directory under it to be exported.  To
> understand this better, read the following section in the Arch Linux
> Wiki: Exporting directories outside your NFS root
> 
> All very subtle, and undocumented.

What a lot of comments!  This deserves a reply at length.  I state a lot
of things below as fact.  But snce I'm still pretty ignorant about nfs4
some of them may not be true.  Those who know please put in corrections;
and we may arrive at the truth about something that's still pretty murky
to most people.  Comments on particular postings follow.

Nfs4 exports a tree of directories from a server to a client.  The root
of the tree must be the root of the filesystem on the host and the
line containing it in /etc/exports must contain the option fsid=root
(alternately fsid=0).  If such a line appears in /etc/exports then any
directory on the server can be exported, and the client can mount any
directory appearing there.  Nfs4 works through a firewall, provided
that port port 2049/tcp is opened; nfs3 requires that the firewall be
(completely) disabled.  "showmount -e "  doesn't work through a
firewall, it appears to be associated with nfs3.  There is no utility
like it that works through port 2049/tcp; administrators have to know
which files are available via the nfs4 port from which servers.

There's an intro to setting up nfs4 (link from Ed Greshko) that states
that the fsid=0 option can be applied to any directory, and then other
directories to be exported should be (bound to) subdirectories of this
one; but I haven't been able to get it to work.  Funky problems:

1) If the client has an actual name or exact IP address in /etc/exports,
like this line:
/nfs4   amito:/(rw,fsid=0,...)
or
/nfs4   192.168.2.5(rw,fsid=0,...)
mount attempts fail with the message "No such file or directory".  

2)If the line in /etc/exports has a form like
/nfs4   192.168.0.0/24(rw,fsid=0,...)
mount attempts fail with the message "access denied by server".
There's probably some problem with the options in the parentheses,
but I've tried them all, starting with the exact ones in the intro
without success.  On the other hand, exporting the actual root
/   amito:(rw,fsid=0,..)
mounts fine.  

I hope to be enlightened.

Detailed comments follow:


Michael Cronenworth  wrote
> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > All very subtle, and undocumented.
> 
> $ man exports
> 
> /fsid[ENTER]
> 
> It is documented. You must understand that NFSv3 and NFSv4 are different
> in many ways.

So it is, in a sense.  But the documentation of fsid in the exports man
page isn't marked as having anything in particular to do with nfs4.

> P.S. I'm not sure why you want to export the entire file system when you
> are not mounting it on the remote end. Your "/" line could be removed.

Quite right.  But I didn't want to let exporting the root filesystem be
a red herring.


Veli-Pekka Kestilä  wrote
> On 26.4.2012 22:45, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > ...
> Could you post your /etc/exports from "weather" as the exports syntax is 
> different for nfs3 and nfs4.

The exports *syntax* is the same in nfs4 as in nfs3.  There are
differences in *semantics* as I explained in my note at the start of
this posting.


Ian Pilcher  wrote
> On 04/26/2012 02:45 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> ...
> NFSv4 works very differently from previous versions.  You should be able
> to Google up plenty of documentation.

If only...  I spent most of a day Googling around before I found the
article in the Arch Linux Wiki.  Most of the stuff in my note at the
top doesn't seem to be anywhere obvious.


Robert P. J. Day  wrote
> ...
>   possibly off-topic but a long, long, *long* time ago, i wondered if
> y