Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Alex writes:


Hi,

I believe the ability to have /boot on RAID was removed in fc15 so in
fc16,


That's news to me. Both F15 and F16 were perfectly happy with /boot on  
RAID-1, for me. I must admit that they were quite reluctant to do so, and I  
did have to beat the crap out of both of them; and I lost two good weekends  
fighting their insolence, before they finally agreed to /boot off RAID-1. 
But after I showed them who's the boss, there were no complaints.



  /boot was a single partition, like /dev/sda1. I recently had my
primary disk fail on one of my systems, and recovering with a failed
sda was very difficult.

Has this issue been fixed in fc17? Is it now possible install RAID on
/boot so there are multiple disks that can be used to read the boot
information?


There were two issues that made RAID-1 for /boot in F15 and F16 a nightmare.

If your partition table starts at sector 63, you're most likely boned,  
because grub2 too fat, with RAID-1 loaded.


Also, on some RAID-based system, anaconda kept generating a grub.conf that  
was a complete work of fiction. That, of course, didn't help things either.  
Fortunately, you can still boot in rescue mode, and run grub2-mkconfig to  
regenerate a grub.conf that has some basis in reality.


Now, if your partition table starts at sector 63, you're still boned. But  
not quite. If you're running RAID-1, it is possible, with the help of a  
rescue disk, and with stable UPS providing insurance, nurse the server into  
restitching all the partitions so that they now start on sector 2048, one  
disk at a time, without having to back them up, and redo.


Bugzilla tells me that F17's anaconda has a better reputation in emitting  
grub.conf for RAID-based system, so that's fixed. But, if your partitions  
still start on sector 63, you're still boned. You must move them.





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Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

[William Brown]

> Is the 2MB BIOS BOOT partition necessary?

Yes, as GPT is now the default over MBR iirc.

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Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

[Alex]

Hi,

I believe the ability to have /boot on RAID was removed in fc15 so in
fc16, /boot was a single partition, like /dev/sda1. I recently had my
primary disk fail on one of my systems, and recovering with a failed
sda was very difficult.

Has this issue been fixed in fc17? Is it now possible install RAID on
/boot so there are multiple disks that can be used to read the boot
information?

I still don't understand why LVM is the default layout method when
there is no redundancy. I also choose to create my own filesystem
layout, as tedious as it has become.

Is the 2MB BIOS BOOT partition necessary?

Thanks,
Alex
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Booting from AHCI controller on f17

[Alex]

Hi,

I have an older Xeon x86_64 box that I'm trying to install fc17 on.
I've set up the BIOS to "Enable" the "SATA AHCI" controller. However,
when I finish the install, and install the bootloader on /dev/sda, the
system reports "Operating System not found" when booting.

Changing it back to "Disable", and apparently using the older "IDE"
boot method, it works okay.

Does anyone have an idea why this doesn't work? Is it a limitation of
the server itself or fedora?

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[William Brown]

On 30/05/12 5:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:32:13 -0400
> Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>>
>> yum remove selinux* ?
> 
> Selinux libs are dependencies of virtually everything.
> 
> The only actual way to do the equivalent of this is
> to switch to the geentoo linux distro and setup your
> build parameters to never enable selinux builds :-).

That is too easy. Setup your own koji build farm, and automatically
patch out SELinux in all the SRPMs. Then rebuild them all, and install
from there.

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Re: OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

[Frank Murphy]

On 29/05/12 20:40, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging
about 150 Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300
Kbytes/sec. More interesting is that the connection is useless for every
other purpose: very slow access to the Web; connections time out; etc.
When bittorrent is paused, these problems go away. My provider is ATT,
which advertizes connection speeds of about 300 Kbytes/sec down and 75
Kbytes/sec up.



Getting up to 1.01 mbytes/sec UPC, Ireland


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Re: OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

[Steven Stern]

On 05/29/2012 02:40 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging
> about 150 Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300
> Kbytes/sec.  More interesting is that the connection is useless for
> every other purpose: very slow access to the Web; connections time out;
> etc.  When bittorrent is paused, these problems go away.  My provider is
> ATT, which advertizes connection speeds of about 300 Kbytes/sec down and
> 75 Kbytes/sec up.
> 
> Is ATT or anyone else watching for bittorrent traffic on my connection
> and cutting back other service because of it.
> 
> 
Before I enabled speed limits due to pre-empting complaints from my
wife, I was getting 1.5 - 1.8 mbps on the download via RCN cable.

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Re: OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/30/2012 03:53 AM, JD wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 12:40 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>> Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging about 
>> 150
>> Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300 Kbytes/sec.  More
>> interesting is that the connection is useless for every other purpose: very 
>> slow
>> access to the Web; connections time out; etc.  When bittorrent is paused, 
>> these
>> problems go away.  My provider is ATT, which advertizes connection speeds of 
>> about
>> 300 Kbytes/sec down and 75 Kbytes/sec up.
>>
>> Is ATT or anyone else watching for bittorrent traffic on my connection and 
>> cutting
>> back other service because of it.
>>
>>
> I downloaded f17 from
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/17/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-17-i386-DVD.iso
> and it too remained at roughly 150kbytes/s, when usually I can download
> things from there at over 1.2 mbytes/s
> I too am on att service, and speed is not the only issue.

I did a direct download using wget and http.  The mirrors in Taiwan hadn't 
opened for
F17 yet.  From the US to Taiwan I go an average of 1.31 MB/s.  Thank you 中華電信!  
:-) :-)

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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Robert Nichols]

On 05/29/2012 04:23 PM, Neal Becker wrote:

Daniel J Walsh wrote:

If you had a problem with SELinux that caused you to want to remove it, I hope
you reported this as a bug.


I'd like to remove it because I always disable it, but every time I update it
takes a long time.


It's the policy updates that take a long time.  As long as you plan to leave
SElinux disabled, you can remove selinux-policy, and the packages that
depend on it (selinux-policy-targeted, policycoreutils-gui), but of course
verify that nothing vital gets pulled along for the ride.

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Re: ssh-agent no longer started with 3.3 kernels (F16/17)?

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:04:06 -0600 Phil Meyer 
wrote:

> On 05/29/2012 03:00 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> ...
> >>
> >> $ ssh-add
> >>
> >> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
> >>
> ...
> 
> Just a note to say that as far as I can tell, it works fine on a fresh 
> F17, kernel 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64.

Thanks! But not on the F17 LXDE spin. In fact, if we just try the spin
(without even installing), we get the above error. (On the original F16
spin, the prompt just comes back which makes sense.) Since this is
caused in this example even before I install, there is some problem
somewhere. Perhaps in the LXDE spin.

Ranjan
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Re: F17 - no network

[David A. De Graaf]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 03:24:26PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> Upon first boot after a fresh installation, there's no network; 
> no way to continue the installation, to say nothing of useability.

NEVERMIND!:-)

It's fixed.  Don't ask me why or how.  But grub.cfg was screwed up
worse than I had thought.  It's fixed now (with some really tedious
corrections to UUID's) and both F16 and F17 boot.  In F17 I have 62
modules loaded including the crucial ones for network devices.

Sorry for the noise.

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Re: ssh-agent no longer started with 3.3 kernels (F16/17)?

[Phil Meyer]

On 05/29/2012 03:00 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
...


$ ssh-add

Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.


...

Just a note to say that as far as I can tell, it works fine on a fresh 
F17, kernel 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64.


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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Michael Cronenworth]

Neal Becker wrote:
> I'd like to remove it because I always disable it, but every time I update it 
> takes a long time.

@ Daniel,

Wasn't there a Fedora Feature that SELinux was going to generate the
policy at RPM build time as opposed to RPM install time? Did this
feature never make it into a release? I cannot find a Feature page for
it any more.

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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Phil Meyer]

On 05/29/2012 12:50 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
...

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 17:15 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

Moreover the Gnome notifier popped up asking me if I wanted to open the
files in shotwell or in the file browser.

All excited, I disentangled the SD card from the Pi and plugged that in
instead. Nothing!
Nothing at all in dmesg, /var/log/messages or udevadm.

The two cards are identical form factor. The working one is made by
Kingston, is 512Mb and does not have a "class" stamp on it (though it
does have 3.3V printed in tiny letters).
The one for the Pi is made by Integral, is 4Gb and is class 4.

So why does one work and the other not?

Thanks again for all the help so far. Much appreciated...

Mark




Anything above 2GB (or newer than 3 years) is SDHC (High Capacity) which 
is a small evolution of SD.  However, some old card readers cannot do SDHC.


Early on, there were several types of controllers on SD cards (yes, 
there is a tiny controller with software on all storage cards).  Not all 
card readers could read all types of controllers.  That has since been 
pretty well settled, but is your laptop or card reader over 3 years 
old?  Or was it a $6.00 special?  If either, it may in fact have some 
limitations that you would not expect.


Have you 'googled' your part number to see if it can do SDHC, or have 
you done many > 2GB cards before and have they all worked?


Have not seen this issue for several years, but I have seen it before.

Good Luck!
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[David]

On 5/29/2012 5:23 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 05/29/2012 03:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>>>
>>> Neal Becker  writes:
 I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:

 yum remove selinux* ?
>>>
>>> Because it protects you from remote exploits?
>>>
>>> -wolfgang
>>
>> You can disable SELinux, and execute
>>
>> yum remove selinux*
>>
>>
>> You can not remove libselinux since this is a core library on the system.
>>
>> If you had a problem with SELinux that caused you to want to remove it, I 
>> hope
>> you reported this as a bug.
> 
> I'd like to remove it because I always disable it, but every time I update it 
> takes a long time.
> 


It can not be removed if you still want to have a working system. Period.


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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Neal Becker]

Boris Epstein wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> 
>> Tommy Pham wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Neal Becker 
>> wrote:
>> >> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>> >>
>> >> yum remove selinux* ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > IIRC, selinux is part of the kernel.  Hence when you make any changes
>> > to/from SELINUX=disabled in the /etc/selinux/config, you have to
>> > reboot.
>>
>> Yes, but my question is just whether it is safe to yum remove selinux*?  It
>> seems rather widespread, and I just wanted to be sure it won't cause other
>> problems if I remove it.
>>
>>
> It is precisely for that reason - that it is so widespread - that I
> personally would rather not remove it. What prompted you to start
> contemplating that?
> 
> Boris.

Answered in another thread - it takes a very long time to update it.

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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Neal Becker]

Daniel J Walsh wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 05/29/2012 03:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>> 
>> Neal Becker  writes:
>>> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>>> 
>>> yum remove selinux* ?
>> 
>> Because it protects you from remote exploits?
>> 
>> -wolfgang
> 
> You can disable SELinux, and execute
> 
> yum remove selinux*
> 
> 
> You can not remove libselinux since this is a core library on the system.
> 
> If you had a problem with SELinux that caused you to want to remove it, I hope
> you reported this as a bug.

I'd like to remove it because I always disable it, but every time I update it 
takes a long time.

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Making sound from Perl - How?

[agraham]

Hi Guys,

Are there any perl bindings in Fedora to play sound samples from perl?

e.g. The ability to use PortAudio or Libao or something else from perl?

Thanks in advance.

Albert
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Re: ssh-agent no longer started with 3.3 kernels (F16/17)?

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:59:30 -0500 Ranjan Maitra 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Up to before the 3.3 kernels showed up in F16, I was able to do the
> following:
> 
> ssh-add 
> 
> without a problem.
> 
> From the 3.3 kernel updates on, I get the following:
> 
> $ ssh-add
> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
> 
> This is worked around on window-by-window or tab-by-tab basis by doing
> the following:
> 
> $ ssh-agent bash 
> 
> followed by 
> 
> $ ssh-add
> 
> and then things revert back to the previous behaviour (only for that
> tab/window, however). This is quite irritating.
> 
> I have tried this with a fully updated F16 as well as a shiny new F17.
> Same problem. The problem however does not show up with the rusty old
> F16 (the one that came "in the box", or rather the usb/cd so to speak). 
> 
> I am using the LXDE spin.
> 
> Any ideas as to what is causing this behaviour? How to fix it
> permanently? Does it call for a bugzilla report? Under what component? 
> 

I wanted to file a report on an investigation regarding this. The
kernel is not to blame, neither is openssh. I tried the following:

installed F16 LXDE spin. No issues (ssh-add works as it always used to).

sudo yum update kernel. No issues upon reboot (ssh-add works as before).

sudo yum update openssh. No issues upon reboot (ssh-add works again as
before).

sudo yum update. (everything else and nothing more, on the vanilla LXDE
spin).

We are back to the problem upon reboot:

$ ssh-add

Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

So, where could the problem be? It may be noted that the problem showed
up at around the same time when we upgraded to the 3.3.1 kernels in
F16 and has not gone away (even though the kernel itself is not at
fault). What component should a bugzilla report, if appropriate be filed
under? 

Many thanks again and best wishes,
Ranjan











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Re: remote access via VNC

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/29/2012 01:26 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/29/2012 12:00 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens
wrote:

On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:


Hi,

Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?



You could share the display in the X configs, e.g.:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-vnc.conf
# This file is to share the root screen via VNC
Section "Module"
  Load "vnc"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device "Videocard0"
  Option "SecurityTypes" "VncAuth"
  Option "UserPasswdVerifier" "VncAuth"
  Option "passwordfile" "/root/.vnc/passwd"
EndSection

You may have to refresh the display after connecting when the user
login screen is shown. I have to on occasion...something with the
way the login mechanism (gdmgreeter?) updates the screen.

Hi Rick,

I just tried it why your suggested configuration but I'm still unable
to access via VNC.

[root@fedora17 ~]# find / -type f -name 'passwd'
/sys/fs/selinux/class/passwd/perms/passwd
find: `/run/user/dlp/gvfs': Permission denied
/usr/share/bash-completion/completions/passwd
/usr/bin/passwd
/etc/pam.d/passwd
/etc/passwd

I've rebooted the system with no effect.


If you look, you'll see that I used a password file, /root/.vnc/passwd
to hold the VNC passwords. You must create that file using "vncpasswd"
on the VNC server and give the root user a password. When you
authenticate VNC, you must give the root user's VNC password.

You don't need to use the authentication, I guess (I always do). I also
believe that, for selinux to like it, you have to change the SELinux
context of the file:

[root@golem4 .vnc]# ls -lZ /root/.vnc/passwd
-rw---. root root unconfined_u:object_r:admin_home_t:s0
/root/.vnc/passwd

To access the machines, I have been using vncviewer over an SSH tunnel:

# vpnc -via golem4 golem4


Whoops!  Sorry, that should read:

# vncviewer -via golem4 golem4

(yes, I use vpnc a lot, hence my mistake)


I get a dialog box asking for root's VNC password. I put it in and the
desktop shows up.

You probably want to look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file on the VNC
server machine to verify that the vnc module is actually being loaded.

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Re: remote access via VNC

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/29/2012 12:00 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:


Hi,

Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?



You could share the display in the X configs, e.g.:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-vnc.conf
# This file is to share the root screen via VNC
Section "Module"
   Load "vnc"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Videocard0"
   Option "SecurityTypes" "VncAuth"
   Option "UserPasswdVerifier" "VncAuth"
   Option "passwordfile" "/root/.vnc/passwd"
EndSection

You may have to refresh the display after connecting when the user
login screen is shown. I have to on occasion...something with the
way the login mechanism (gdmgreeter?) updates the screen.

Hi Rick,

I just tried it why your suggested configuration but I'm still unable
to access via VNC.

[root@fedora17 ~]# find / -type f -name 'passwd'
/sys/fs/selinux/class/passwd/perms/passwd
find: `/run/user/dlp/gvfs': Permission denied
/usr/share/bash-completion/completions/passwd
/usr/bin/passwd
/etc/pam.d/passwd
/etc/passwd

I've rebooted the system with no effect.


If you look, you'll see that I used a password file, /root/.vnc/passwd
to hold the VNC passwords. You must create that file using "vncpasswd"
on the VNC server and give the root user a password. When you
authenticate VNC, you must give the root user's VNC password.

You don't need to use the authentication, I guess (I always do). I also
believe that, for selinux to like it, you have to change the SELinux
context of the file:

[root@golem4 .vnc]# ls -lZ /root/.vnc/passwd
-rw---. root root unconfined_u:object_r:admin_home_t:s0 
/root/.vnc/passwd


To access the machines, I have been using vncviewer over an SSH tunnel:

# vpnc -via golem4 golem4

I get a dialog box asking for root's VNC password. I put it in and the
desktop shows up.

You probably want to look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file on the VNC
server machine to verify that the vnc module is actually being loaded.
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Re: remote access via VNC

[Tommy Pham]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Haley  wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
>> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?
>
> I don't get the problem.  You don't have to be logged in on
> the console, or anything like that.  You just have to be able
> to start a vnc server, and you can do that via ssh.  What else
> do you want to do?
>
> Andrew.

Hi Andrew,

I have no problems doing the major of the work needed via ssh and
command line.  However, there are a few things that requires the GUI,
specifically Oracle, for me to do a few things.  Setting the autologin
would allow me to VNC into the system, especially when the system is
rebooted.  However, that poses a security risk for me.  Basically, I'm
looking for something similar to MS Windows' RDP.  Whether the user is
logged or not, anyone with the right access can RDP in.  IIRC, the old
original VNC server used to do that on Windows.  I haven't used VNC
server in about 10~ years.

Thanks,
Tommy
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Re: how to capture flash, etc

[Mike Wright]

On 05/27/2012 09:20 PM, JD wrote:

On 05/27/2012 08:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:


FWIW, when it comes to downloading and saving youtube videos I've
found the plugins/extensions for firefox and chrome to work
consistently well. The nice thing too is that they convert the flash
videos to MP4 so you don't need a flash viewer. (using my memory on
that last bithaven't used them recently my computer is in use at
the moment by another family member watching Korean soap operas)



I use the firefox add-on called downloadhelper, and I have configured it to
do conversion after download. It works well.
Only problem is download speed. Clive seems to consistently download
at much higher speeds.


Downloaded clive but haven't tried it yet.

The recommendation of downloadhelper has been great for me.  I only 
wanted a few songs and now I have a library of flv and mpeg4 
performances of some of my favorites.  (anybody remember Procol Harum?)


@list members:  you never cease to amaze !

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Re: remote access via VNC

[Andrew Haley]

On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?

I don't get the problem.  You don't have to be logged in on
the console, or anything like that.  You just have to be able
to start a vnc server, and you can do that via ssh.  What else
do you want to do?

Andrew.
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Re: [slightly OT] What happened to /media ??

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 14:04 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Brian Millett  said:
> > Ok, so I didn't read about the removable media mount point being changed to
> > 
> > /run/media//device
> > 
> > Would have been nice to have that as a gotcha.
> 
> It is in the release notes:
> 
>   3.1.4. Removable media changes mount points
>   Removable media mounted in the user's session, such as hot-plugged USB
>   drives, will be mounted in a user-specific directory. Mount points are
>   provisioned in /run/media/$USER/ with permissions allowing $USER
>   exclusive access.
Is there any way to configure the system so that if removable media is
found to be connected at boot time or is connected when no-one is logged
then it would be mounted to a specified point?  And if connected while
someone is logged in, it would be mounted to the same point?

Thanks - jon


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Re: OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 12:40 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging 
about 150 Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300 
Kbytes/sec.  More interesting is that the connection is useless for 
every other purpose: very slow access to the Web; connections time 
out; etc.  When bittorrent is paused, these problems go away.  My 
provider is ATT, which advertizes connection speeds of about 300 
Kbytes/sec down and 75 Kbytes/sec up.


Is ATT or anyone else watching for bittorrent traffic on my connection 
and cutting back other service because of it.




I downloaded f17 from
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/17/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-17-i386-DVD.iso
and it too remained at roughly 150kbytes/s, when usually I can download
things from there at over 1.2 mbytes/s
I too am on att service, and speed is not the only issue.
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:40:56 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:32:13 -0400
> Neal Becker wrote:
> 
> > I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
> > 
> > yum remove selinux* ?
> 
> Selinux libs are dependencies of virtually everything.

That would be "libselinux", however, and isn't covered by above command.
Above command would not remove all packages related to SELinux.

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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Daniel J Walsh]

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> 
> Neal Becker  writes:
>> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>> 
>> yum remove selinux* ?
> 
> Because it protects you from remote exploits?
> 
> -wolfgang

You can disable SELinux, and execute

yum remove selinux*


You can not remove libselinux since this is a core library on the system.

If you had a problem with SELinux that caused you to want to remove it, I hope
you reported this as a bug.
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:32:13 -0400
Neal Becker wrote:

> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
> 
> yum remove selinux* ?

Selinux libs are dependencies of virtually everything.

The only actual way to do the equivalent of this is
to switch to the geentoo linux distro and setup your
build parameters to never enable selinux builds :-).
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OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging
about 150 Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300
Kbytes/sec.  More interesting is that the connection is useless for
every other purpose: very slow access to the Web; connections time out;
etc.  When bittorrent is paused, these problems go away.  My provider is
ATT, which advertizes connection speeds of about 300 Kbytes/sec down and
75 Kbytes/sec up.

Is ATT or anyone else watching for bittorrent traffic on my connection
and cutting back other service because of it.
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Neal Becker  writes:
> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>
> yum remove selinux* ?

Because it protects you from remote exploits?

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 11:12 AM, Thibault Nélis wrote:
rpm -q --whatrequires uuidd 

Yes I know that, but in the past, when I
wanted to build from source non-fedora distro apps,
some of them would require it.
For the time being, I will disable it.

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F17 - no network

[David A. De Graaf]

Upon first boot after a fresh installation, there's no network; 
no way to continue the installation, to say nothing of useability.

Running lsmod, I see only 4 modules are loaded, in contrast with the
80 or 90 that are customary.  Neither the ath9k family, needed for my
wireless radio, nor r8169 for my ethernet device are loaded.
These modules are present in /lib/modules.
A manual   insmod ath9k   fails, saying 
  Error: could not load module ath9k: No such file or directory

ath9k.ko is plainly present in the customary place.

I have, rather hysterically, added insmod lines to /etc/grub2/grub.cfg
but these had no effect.

Runninggrub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg   nearly wiped me
out because grub2-mkconfig is braindead concerning UUIDs and 
rd.luks.uuid values.  It put in totally wrong values for F16,
resulting in booting the defective F17 no matter what I chose. 
I was able to reconstruct correct values and can once again boot the
old F16 system, but I almost lost the whole thing.

This was a fresh install from a USB stick to a new root partition,
keeping the old /boot and /home and old /f16 partitions intact.  
On this netbook all partitions except /boot are encrypted.
As in the past, I boot with rhgb removed, noselinux added to boot
options, and use multi-user.target to emulate init level 3.
I chose XFCE and unchecked Gnome during installation.

On first boot I tried to edit the grub kernel line but couldn't.
One must now use "simple emacs commands" to do so.  I have spent
four decades avoiding emacs and becoming good with vi - the STANDARD
editor.

The reboot, shutdown, halt commands are now guaranteed to hang the system.
Only a forced power-off will recover.  That's just sad.

F17 seems totally hosed and useless.  
Why are essential modules not being loaded? 
Does anyone have an idea how to dig out?
I'm leaving for a trip in three days and need this netbook to work.

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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Germán A. Racca]

On 05/29/2012 04:07 PM, Neal Becker wrote:

Tommy Pham wrote:


On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:

yum remove selinux* ?




IIRC, selinux is part of the kernel.  Hence when you make any changes
to/from SELINUX=disabled in the /etc/selinux/config, you have to
reboot.


Yes, but my question is just whether it is safe to yum remove selinux*?  It
seems rather widespread, and I just wanted to be sure it won't cause other
problems if I remove it.



It is not safe to remove selinux, but if you don't want to use it then 
just don't use it, or use it in premissive mode, but you don't need to 
remove it.


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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Boris Epstein]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> Tommy Pham wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Neal Becker 
> wrote:
> >> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
> >>
> >> yum remove selinux* ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > IIRC, selinux is part of the kernel.  Hence when you make any changes
> > to/from SELINUX=disabled in the /etc/selinux/config, you have to
> > reboot.
>
> Yes, but my question is just whether it is safe to yum remove selinux*?  It
> seems rather widespread, and I just wanted to be sure it won't cause other
> problems if I remove it.
>
>
It is precisely for that reason - that it is so widespread - that I
personally would rather not remove it. What prompted you to start
contemplating that?

Boris.
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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Neal Becker]

Tommy Pham wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
>> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>>
>> yum remove selinux* ?
>>
>>
> 
> IIRC, selinux is part of the kernel.  Hence when you make any changes
> to/from SELINUX=disabled in the /etc/selinux/config, you have to
> reboot.

Yes, but my question is just whether it is safe to yum remove selinux*?  It 
seems rather widespread, and I just wanted to be sure it won't cause other 
problems if I remove it.

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Re: F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

[suvayu ali]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mark Haney  wrote:
> I've hit a snag on upgrading my netbook to F17.  Every time I go into the
> upgrade section I get a dialog saying my root volume is dirty and to reboot
> into linux, have it clean the FS and restart the upgrade.

Maybe it's related to this?



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Re: What happened to /media ??

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Brian Millett  said:
> Ok, so I didn't read about the removable media mount point being changed to
> 
> /run/media//device
> 
> Would have been nice to have that as a gotcha.

It is in the release notes:

  3.1.4. Removable media changes mount points
  Removable media mounted in the user's session, such as hot-plugged USB
  drives, will be mounted in a user-specific directory. Mount points are
  provisioned in /run/media/$USER/ with permissions allowing $USER
  exclusive access.

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Re: remote access via VNC

[Tommy Pham]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
>> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?
>
>
> You could share the display in the X configs, e.g.:
>
> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-vnc.conf
> # This file is to share the root screen via VNC
> Section "Module"
>    Load "vnc"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>    Identifier "Screen0"
>    Device "Videocard0"
>    Option "SecurityTypes" "VncAuth"
>    Option "UserPasswdVerifier" "VncAuth"
>    Option "passwordfile" "/root/.vnc/passwd"
> EndSection
>
> You may have to refresh the display after connecting when the user
> login screen is shown. I have to on occasion...something with the
> way the login mechanism (gdmgreeter?) updates the screen.
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Hi Rick,

I just tried it why your suggested configuration but I'm still unable
to access via VNC.

[root@fedora17 ~]# find / -type f -name 'passwd'
/sys/fs/selinux/class/passwd/perms/passwd
find: `/run/user/dlp/gvfs': Permission denied
/usr/share/bash-completion/completions/passwd
/usr/bin/passwd
/etc/pam.d/passwd
/etc/passwd

I've rebooted the system with no effect.

Thanks,
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ssh-agent no longer started with 3.3 kernels (F16/17)?

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi,

Up to before the 3.3 kernels showed up in F16, I was able to do the
following:

ssh-add 

without a problem.

From the 3.3 kernel updates on, I get the following:

$ ssh-add
Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

This is worked around on window-by-window or tab-by-tab basis by doing
the following:

$ ssh-agent bash 

followed by 

$ ssh-add

and then things revert back to the previous behaviour (only for that
tab/window, however). This is quite irritating.

I have tried this with a fully updated F16 as well as a shiny new F17.
Same problem. The problem however does not show up with the rusty old
F16 (the one that came "in the box", or rather the usb/cd so to speak). 

I am using the LXDE spin.

Any ideas as to what is causing this behaviour? How to fix it
permanently? Does it call for a bugzilla report? Under what component? 

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Arthur Dent]

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 17:15 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 04:15 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> > I have never used udevadm before. If I have read the man page
> > correctly, all I need to do is to initiate "udevadm monitor" and
> > then plug in the card, is that right?
> 
> Yes - just run the command as root and it will continue running and
> printing events to the terminal until you interrupt it with Ctrl-C.
> 
> Here's some sample output showing an add/remove cycle for a USB flash
> device (although this machine has an SD reader I don't have a card on
> me right now so a USB stick was the closest I could get):
> 
> http://fpaste.org/UwHH
> 
> > I will have to do that when I get home this evening. I am SSH'd
> > into the box at the moment, but it's a bit difficult to put a card
> > in a slot from 35 miles away!
> 
> Been there :-)
> 
> > In the meantime is there anything else I can check from a SSH
> > connection - drivers / modules etc?
> 
> Make sure the usb-storage module is loaded and check to see if a SCSI
> host exists for the storage device. To do this you need to look for an
> entry in /sys/class/scsi_host that corresponds to the USB bus address
> of the card reader.
> 
> E.g. the key from the example above shows up like this:
> 
> $ ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/ | sed 's/.*\ host/host/'
> total 0
> host0 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host0/scsi_host/host0
> host1 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host1/scsi_host/host1
> host2 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/scsi_host/host2
> host3 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host3/scsi_host/host3
> host4 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host4/scsi_host/host4
> host5 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host5/scsi_host/host5
> host9 ->
> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/2-1.2:1.0/host9/scsi_host/host9
> 
> That last one is the one we're interested in.
> 
> $ ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/host9
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 May 29 17:07 /sys/class/scsi_host/host9 ->
> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/2-1.2:1.0/host9/scsi_host/host9
> 
> If you've no other USB storage on the system this is easy enough to
> spot. If you do then you'll need to look at the PCI addresses and USB
> addresses to figure it out. If in doubt look at the info option to
> udevadm - it can print out all the attributes it can find for a device
> and often there's something in there that will identify the thing.

Well here's an odd thing...

I've just got home and I decided to try this. Out of curiosity (and
because the thing was easier to get) I opened up my old digital camera
and found a 512mb SD card inside. I set up udevadm monitor and popped
the card in. Guess what?

# udevadm monitor
monitor will print the received events for:
UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
KERNEL - the kernel uevent
<>
KERNEL[183.649491] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)
KERNEL[183.700490] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)
KERNEL[183.701200] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf/sdf1
 (block)
UDEV  [183.966232] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)
UDEV  [184.257171] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)
UDEV  [184.532025] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf/sdf1
 (block)
<>
KERNEL[588.259613] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)
UDEV  [588.288069] change   
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:3/block/sdf
 (block)

Moreover the Gnome notifier popped up asking me if I wanted to open the
files in shotwell or in the file browser.

All excited, I disentangled the SD card from the Pi and plugged that in
instead. Nothing!
Nothing at all in dmesg, /var/log/messages or udevadm.

The two cards are identical form factor. The working one is made by
Kingston, is 512Mb and does not have a "class" stamp on it (though it
does have 3.3V printed in tiny letters).
The one for the Pi is made by Integral, is 4Gb and is class 4.

So why does one work and the other not?

Thanks again for all the help so far. Much appreciated...

Mark


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Re: yum remove selinux*

[Tommy Pham]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:
>
> yum remove selinux* ?
>
>

IIRC, selinux is part of the kernel.  Hence when you make any changes
to/from SELINUX=disabled in the /etc/selinux/config, you have to
reboot.
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What happened to /media ??

[Brian Millett]

Ok, so I didn't read about the removable media mount point being changed to

/run/media//device

Would have been nice to have that as a gotcha.
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yum remove selinux*

[Neal Becker]

I don't want/use selinux.  Any reason I shouldn't just do:

yum remove selinux* ?


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Re: remote access via VNC

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?


You could share the display in the X configs, e.g.:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-vnc.conf
# This file is to share the root screen via VNC
Section "Module"
Load "vnc"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Option "SecurityTypes" "VncAuth"
Option "UserPasswdVerifier" "VncAuth"
Option "passwordfile" "/root/.vnc/passwd"
EndSection

You may have to refresh the display after connecting when the user
login screen is shown. I have to on occasion...something with the
way the login mechanism (gdmgreeter?) updates the screen.
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Re: F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

[Mark C. Allman]

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:58 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
> I've hit a snag on upgrading my netbook to F17.  Every time I go into 
> the upgrade section I get a dialog saying my root volume is dirty and to 
> reboot into linux, have it clean the FS and restart the upgrade.
> 
> Unfortunately, no matter how many times I've rebooted I keep getting the 
> dialog.  I'm not really sure where to go from here except to manually 
> check the FS, but I can't fix any root volume errors since I have no way 
> of unmounting the FS on this machine.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
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Create a file in the root directory ("/") named "forcefsck".  This will
force fsck to run and clean the file systems when you reboot.

The file contains one line and lists the options that you want to pass
to fsck.  I use "-p" since my filesystem is ext3.  

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Thibault Nélis]

On 05/29/2012 06:21 PM, JD wrote:

I am not running anything that I KNOW to require uuidd.
I simply wanted to make sure that if there are other daemons
or apps that need it, will be able to use it.


You could try

$ rpm -q --whatrequires uuidd
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F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

[Mark Haney]

I've hit a snag on upgrading my netbook to F17.  Every time I go into 
the upgrade section I get a dialog saying my root volume is dirty and to 
reboot into linux, have it clean the FS and restart the upgrade.


Unfortunately, no matter how many times I've rebooted I keep getting the 
dialog.  I'm not really sure where to go from here except to manually 
check the FS, but I can't fix any root volume errors since I have no way 
of unmounting the FS on this machine.


Ideas?

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remote access via VNC

[Tommy Pham]

Hi,

Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?

Thanks,
Tommy
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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 08:39 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 11:37 PM, JD wrote:

after adding the lines to create dir /var/run/uuidd
and chowning it; starting the daemon just hangs.
# service uuidd start
Starting uuidd (via systemctl):
And it stays there forever until interrupted.

Yes, I know.  I mentioned that in another message.  You can make that part of 
the bug
report.

But, all will start as needed on boot.  And, it is started if you ctrl-C.  See 
my
other message about problems with "stop".


Stopping it seems to work just fine:
# systemctl stop uuidd.service
#
# ps -C uuidd
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
#

The hang has to do with the non-extant /var/lib/libuuid/uuidd.pid
But, if you copy /run/uuidd/uuidd.pid (after starting it of course),
to /var/lib/libuuid/uuidd.pid, the hang goes away.
I did this using 2 gnome-terminals side by side.
in one I started uuidd, and in the other I waited a few seconds
and did
cp -f /run/uuidd/uuidd.pid /var/lib/libuuid/uuidd.pid

and the start command in the other terminal immediately
completes without error.

I think the coders need to make up their mind where
the pid file needs to be.
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Re: F17: Processing Conflict: systemd-44-12.fc17.i686 conflicts nfs-utils < 1:1.2.6

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:13:41 +0100
Pedro Francisco  wrote:

> Anyone else had this today?
> 
> # yum update -y
> (...)
> --> Processing Conflict: systemd-44-12.fc17.i686 conflicts nfs-utils
> < 1:1.2.6 --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: systemd conflicts with 1:nfs-utils-1.2.5-15.fc17.i686

Yes, this was due to a nfs-utils build that was needed by systemd not
going out to stable yesterday with the systemd build. 

it's pushing out now, so wait a bit and it should be fixed. 

kevin


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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 08:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 10:51 PM, JD wrote:

Will file a bug if one has not been files already.
But if it is broken in f16 and f17, seems
unlikely the devs do not know about it.

I think you meant "likely the devs do not know about it".

Let us know the bug ID after filing.  Also, I am curious, what piece of 
software are
you running that needs this daemon?


I am not running anything that I KNOW to require uuidd.
I simply wanted to make sure that if there are other daemons
or apps that need  it, will be able to use it.
The bug id is 826122
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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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On 05/29/2012 05:15 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 04:15 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> I have never used udevadm before. If I have read the man page 
>> correctly, all I need to do is to initiate "udevadm monitor" and 
>> then plug in the card, is that right?
> 
> Yes - just run the command as root and it will continue running
> and printing events to the terminal until you interrupt it with
> Ctrl-C.
> 
> Here's some sample output showing an add/remove cycle for a USB
> flash device (although this machine has an SD reader I don't have a
> card on me right now so a USB stick was the closest I could get):
> 
> http://fpaste.org/UwHH

Ugh. Fpaste didn't like that first time:

http://fpaste.org/ga6d/

I added the "<<>>" and "<<>>" lines to indicate when the
device was inserted/removed.

Regards,
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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

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On 05/29/2012 04:15 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> I have never used udevadm before. If I have read the man page
> correctly, all I need to do is to initiate "udevadm monitor" and
> then plug in the card, is that right?

Yes - just run the command as root and it will continue running and
printing events to the terminal until you interrupt it with Ctrl-C.

Here's some sample output showing an add/remove cycle for a USB flash
device (although this machine has an SD reader I don't have a card on
me right now so a USB stick was the closest I could get):

http://fpaste.org/UwHH

> I will have to do that when I get home this evening. I am SSH'd
> into the box at the moment, but it's a bit difficult to put a card
> in a slot from 35 miles away!

Been there :-)

> In the meantime is there anything else I can check from a SSH
> connection - drivers / modules etc?

Make sure the usb-storage module is loaded and check to see if a SCSI
host exists for the storage device. To do this you need to look for an
entry in /sys/class/scsi_host that corresponds to the USB bus address
of the card reader.

E.g. the key from the example above shows up like this:

$ ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/ | sed 's/.*\ host/host/'
total 0
host0 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host0/scsi_host/host0
host1 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host1/scsi_host/host1
host2 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host2/scsi_host/host2
host3 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host3/scsi_host/host3
host4 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host4/scsi_host/host4
host5 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host5/scsi_host/host5
host9 ->
../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/2-1.2:1.0/host9/scsi_host/host9

That last one is the one we're interested in.

$ ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/host9
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 May 29 17:07 /sys/class/scsi_host/host9 ->
../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/2-1.2:1.0/host9/scsi_host/host9

If you've no other USB storage on the system this is easy enough to
spot. If you do then you'll need to look at the PCI addresses and USB
addresses to figure it out. If in doubt look at the info option to
udevadm - it can print out all the attributes it can find for a device
and often there's something in there that will identify the thing.

Regards,
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F17: Processing Conflict: systemd-44-12.fc17.i686 conflicts nfs-utils < 1:1.2.6

[Pedro Francisco]

Anyone else had this today?

# yum update -y
(...)
--> Processing Conflict: systemd-44-12.fc17.i686 conflicts nfs-utils < 1:1.2.6
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: systemd conflicts with 1:nfs-utils-1.2.5-15.fc17.i686

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 08:37 AM, JD wrote:

On 05/29/2012 03:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 03:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 03:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Third, to work around the problem add the following to the 
beginning of the init script.


mkdir /var/run/uuidd
chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
Their seems to be some other minor problems surrounding this 
suggestion.  Need to
read the script and see what needs to be done for realbut eating 
dinner at the

moment  :-)


What you really want is to add this

if ! [ -d /var/run/uuidd ]
then
   mkdir /var/run/uuidd
   chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
fi

That doesn't fix the problem about "systemctl stop uuidd.service" not 
stopping the

service.


after adding the lines to create dir /var/run/uuidd
and chowning it; starting the daemon just hangs.
# service uuidd start
Starting uuidd (via systemctl):
And it stays there forever until interrupted.




I spoke too soon.
After about 5 minutes, systemctl reports failure:
# service uuidd start
Starting uuidd (via systemctl):  Job failed. See system logs and 
'systemctl status' for details.  [FAILED]


and in /var/log/messages:
May 29 08:32:23 localhost uuidd[11934]: Starting uuidd: [  OK  ]
May 29 08:32:23 localhost systemd[1]: PID file 
/var/lib/libuuid/uuidd.pid not readable (yet?) after start.
May 29 08:37:23 localhost systemd[1]: uuidd.service operation timed out. 
Terminating.
May 29 08:37:23 localhost systemd[1]: Unit uuidd.service entered failed 
state.


# ls -ld /var/lib/libuuid
drwxrwsr-x 2 uuidd uuidd 4096 Apr 17 07:39 /var/lib/libuuid/
So how many pid files does uuidd need?
So far, it seems 2
/run/uuidd/uuidd.pid
and
/var/lib/libuuid/uuidd.pid

At any rate, uuidd stays running:
# ps -C uuidd
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
11939 ?00:00:00 uuidd
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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 11:37 PM, JD wrote:
> after adding the lines to create dir /var/run/uuidd
> and chowning it; starting the daemon just hangs.
> # service uuidd start
> Starting uuidd (via systemctl):
> And it stays there forever until interrupted.

Yes, I know.  I mentioned that in another message.  You can make that part of 
the bug
report.

But, all will start as needed on boot.  And, it is started if you ctrl-C.  See 
my
other message about problems with "stop".

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 10:51 PM, JD wrote:
> Will file a bug if one has not been files already.
> But if it is broken in f16 and f17, seems
> unlikely the devs do not know about it. 

I think you meant "likely the devs do not know about it".

Let us know the bug ID after filing.  Also, I am curious, what piece of 
software are
you running that needs this daemon?

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 03:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 03:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/29/2012 03:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Third, to work around the problem add the following to the beginning of the 
init script.

mkdir /var/run/uuidd
chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd

Their seems to be some other minor problems surrounding this suggestion.  Need 
to
read the script and see what needs to be done for realbut eating dinner at 
the
moment  :-)


What you really want is to add this

if ! [ -d /var/run/uuidd ]
then
   mkdir /var/run/uuidd
   chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
fi

That doesn't fix the problem about "systemctl stop uuidd.service" not stopping 
the
service.


after adding the lines to create dir /var/run/uuidd
and chowning it; starting the daemon just hangs.
# service uuidd start
Starting uuidd (via systemctl):
And it stays there forever until interrupted.



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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Daniel J Walsh]

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On 05/28/2012 05:43 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/28/2012 04:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> Maybe this explains why I'm unable to access the serial port... once
>> again SELinux more a pain in the ass rather than of real use...
>> 
>> http://www.ukraa.com/www/faq/75-starbar/102-fedora15rxtx.html
>> 
>> 
>> Fedora 15 Unable to connect to serial port
>> 
>> Written by Administrator Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:16
>> 
>> Fedora 15 fails to connect to USB - Serial port or inbuilt serial port
>> 
>> Fedora 15 comes with a restrictive user policy.
>> 
>> Your user account need to be in the dialout group you can accomplish this
>> with the command below run as the root user.
>> 
>> usermod -a -G dialout 
>> 
> 
> Wow  :-) :-)
> 
> And did you know that one needs to be part of the "wireshark" group to use
> wireshark as a normal user?  And, you have to part of the "vboxusers" group
> to gain access to USB devices when using VirtualBox?
> 
> This has nothing to do with selinux.  It is normal unix/linux limiting
> policy.
> 
> 
But when in doubt it is always a good idea to blame it.  :^(
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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Arthur Dent]

>> Device 002: ID 0644:0200 TEAC Corp. All-In-One Multi-Card Reader
>> CA200/B/S Bus 006 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp.
>>
>> So there it is!
>>
>> So the next question is why won't it work? (or what do I need to do
>> to get it to work?)
>
> You could use udevadm's monitor feature to watch for events when
> inserting/removing cards.
>
> The usb-storage module should bind to the storage functions on the
> card so it's also worth making sure that that's loaded (and figuring
> out why it's not if that is the case).

Thanks Bryn,

I have never used udevadm before. If I have read the man page correctly,
all I need to do is to initiate "udevadm monitor" and then plug in the
card, is that right?

I will have to do that when I get home this evening. I am SSH'd into the
box at the moment, but it's a bit difficult to put a card in a slot from
35 miles away!

In the meantime is there anything else I can check from a SSH connection -
drivers / modules etc?

Thanks again!

Mark


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[389-users] password expiration warnings

[Josh Ellsworth]

Is there documentation showing how to get password expiration warnings to work? 
I have them enabled in the console but for some reason they aren't being sent. 
I am not sure where the SMTP relay is configured, etc and would like to be sure 
that everything is configured correctly.

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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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On 05/29/2012 03:46 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root
> hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub 
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus
> 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005
> Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006
> Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007
> Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002
> Device 002: ID 0644:0200 TEAC Corp. All-In-One Multi-Card Reader 
> CA200/B/S Bus 006 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp.
> Keyboard Bus 007 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel
> Mouse Optical
> 
> So there it is!
> 
> So the next question is why won't it work? (or what do I need to do
> to get it to work?)

You could use udevadm's monitor feature to watch for events when
inserting/removing cards.

The usb-storage module should bind to the storage functions on the
card so it's also worth making sure that that's loaded (and figuring
out why it's not if that is the case).

Regards,
Bryn.
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Re: uuidd fails to start

[JD]

On 05/29/2012 03:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

if ! [ -d /var/run/uuidd ]
then
   mkdir /var/run/uuidd
   chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
fi

Thanx Ed.
Will file a bug if one has not been files already.
But if it is broken in f16 and f17, seems
unlikely the devs do not know about it.


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Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Arthur Dent]

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> On 05/29/2012 03:26 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> So then I looked at lspci (see below). I may be wrong but I can't
>> see anything which might be a card reader listed there. It's as if
>> I don't actually have a card reader.
>
> Most internal card readers are USB devices - try lsusb.
>
Of course! Thanks!

# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0644:0200 TEAC Corp. All-In-One Multi-Card Reader
CA200/B/S
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp. Keyboard
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical

So there it is!

So the next question is why won't it work? (or what do I need to do to get
it to work?)

Thanks.



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Announcing Fedora 17. Relish it.

[Mike Chambers]

For those not on the announce lists.  Here what ya been waiting for.

Mike Chambers

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Subject: Announcing Fedora 17. Relish it.
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:01:30 -0700

"At the heat of a thousand hot dog cookers, the seventeenth release of 
Fedora shall be forged by contributors the world over, and it will be 
known as: Beefy Miracle. The mustard shall indicate progress.

For six months, participants in the Fedora Project shall freely 
contribute to the release of the distribution, in the spirit of the Four 
Foundations -- Freedom, Friends, Features,  and First -- and moreover, 
they shall relish in Fun, as a community without Fun would be like a day 
without sunshine.

Upon release, a free and open source operating system shall be available 
to  all, catering to a variety of tastes -- those of end-users, systems 
administrators, and developers, with a common thread that binds them 
all: No, not their love for hot dogs, silly, as we certainly know that 
Fedora shall be created and used by those whose dietary preference could 
be either Beefy or Leafy.  Freedom, my friends, Freedom is the Great 
Condiment, which shall enable all users of the Beefy Miracle to Create, 
Share, and Do."

-- The Book of Sauerkraut, Chapter 12, Verse 529

The Beefy Miracle hath arrived. Behold, for it is available to download now:
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora

And lo, detailed information about this release can be seen in the 
release notes:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Release_Notes/

== Condiments ==

Frankly, we believe this is the beefiest release ever -- chock full of 
condiments, more commonly known as Features, to customize your 
experience to your tastes. We take pride in our toppings, and in our 
fine ingredients; Fedora 17 includes both over- and  under-the-bun 
improvements that show off the power and flexibility of the advancing 
state of free (range) software.

On the desktop: GNOME 3.4 introduces many user experience improvements, 
including new search capabilities in the activities overview, improved 
themes, and enhancements to the Documents and Contacts applications. A 
new application, GNOME-boxes, provides easy access to virtual machines.  
Additionally, GIMP 2.8, the newest version  of the GNU Image 
Manipulation Program, brings new improvements, such as single-window 
mode, layer groups, and on-canvas editing.

For developers: You never sausage a great array of development tools! 
Fedora 17 includes a pre-release of Juno, the release of the  Eclipse 
SDK expected in June 2012.  Java 7 (and OpenJDK 7) is the default Java 
runtime and Java build toolset, and GCC 4.7.x is now the primary 
compiler in Fedora.  Other language refreshes include shipping Ruby 
1.9.3, the latest stable version of the Ruby language; PHP 5.4, the 
latest PHP stack; an update of Erlang to the R15 release; and the D 
language has been updated to the 2.058 release.

Under the hood, and in the cloud: Serving up hot dogs all day long? 
Increase your reliability and versatility with the new enhancements to 
the clustering stack in Fedora  17. Load balancing and high availability 
improvements have been made, allowing systems administrators to deploy 
Fedora in environments requiring greater availability and clustered file 
systems. JBoss Application Server (AS) 7 has also been added to Fedora 
17; this fast, lightweight, and modular application server allows you to 
run full Java EE applications. oVirt, a server virtualization management 
system with advanced capabilities for hosts and guests, is also 
included.  The automatic multi-seat feature enables multiple, concurrent 
end-users to utilize a desktop from a single machine, which any systems 
administrator can relish. And we couldn't possibly write this without 
talking about our foray into Hot Dogs as a Service (HDaaS)... oh, just 
kidding, we just had to make a cloudy joke. In all seriousness, though, 
OpenStack, a collection of services that can be used to set up and run 
cloud compute and storage infrastructure, has been updated to the latest 
release, 2012.1 (Essex), in Fedora 17.

Ketchup with the full list of features for Fedora 17 here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList

=== Download and Upgrade ===

Fedora 17: It's bun-believable. Get it now: http://get.fedoraproject.org

If you are upgrading from a previous release of Fedora, refer to:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading

Fedora 17 full release notes and guides for several languages are 
available at:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

Fedora 17 common bugs are documented at: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F17_bugs

=== Fedora Spins ===

Fedora spins are alternate version of Fedora, tailored for various types 
of users via hand-picked application set or customiz

Re: Built in SD card reader problem

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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On 05/29/2012 03:26 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> So then I looked at lspci (see below). I may be wrong but I can't
> see anything which might be a card reader listed there. It's as if
> I don't actually have a card reader.

Most internal card readers are USB devices - try lsusb.

Regards,
Bryn.
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Built in SD card reader problem

[Arthur Dent]

Hello all,

I have had my Dell Dimension 5200 DM061 PC for about 3 years now. It has a
built in multiple card reader that takes SD cards and others. In the
entire time I have had the PC I have never even tried to use the card
reader.

Yesterday I got my Raspberry Pi (yipee!) and the first thing I needed to
do was to flash an OS image onto the SD card.

OK - So I popped the card into the card reader slot and waited for
something to happen. This is a Fedora 16 box. I have no other OS installed
(the pre-installed Windows Vista got blown away long ago).

Nothing happened
(a green light went on in the card reader bay, but no response on the
screen).

So then I did what all good Linuxites do - I looked a dmesg. Nothing.
So then I ran a "tail -f /var/log/messages" and removed and re-inserted
the SD card into the slot. Still nothing.

So then I looked at lspci (see below). I may be wrong but I can't see
anything which might be a card reader listed there. It's as if I don't
actually have a card reader.

I am really disappointed. I have become so used to things just working
(nowadays anyway) and being smug with my Windows-loving colleagues when I
tell them that I can do anything with my Linux box. I really had my tail
between my legs when I had to admit that I needed to fire up my work
laptop with Windows7 (which also has a built-in SD card reader) and flash
the card from that!

What can I do? Am I missing a driver or a kernel module or something?

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions...

Mark

# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 Memory Controller Hub
(rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 PCI Express Root Port
(rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V 10/100 Network
Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev f2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HH (ICH8DH) LPC Interface
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port SATA
IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller
(rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port SATA
IDE Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300
LE] (rev a1)



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Re: Gnome-rpd

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:33:18PM -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote:
> Is anyone having trouble using gnome-rdp. I get an error message
> that says: getaddressinfo can't find name or something to that
> affect. Anyway it is not working. Is there a fix out there or will I
> have to wait until final release candidate.

I've been using xfreerdp for a long time without trouble.

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Re: Evolution consuming 50% cpu on FC 16

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 14:22 +0800, hostmaster wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Tried your script. It seems to have worked. Evolution is 0% cpu.
> 
> Thanks a lot.

Glad it worked out. It's not really my script. Someone posted it on the
Evo list years ago and I kept it.

[And for the record: please avoid top-posting on this list; see the
Guidelines]

poc

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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Tim  wrote:

> There probably was some option for me to set in the network
> configuration whether any user could bring the interface up and down,
> rather than requiring root to do it.  I don't really know, but it sounds
> familiar, and makes sense.
>

Of course it made sense. The current situation doesn't. :)

Unless we're talking about a server configuration where you might want
things pretty much locked tight as default. :) ...

Thanks Tim for proving my memory isn't that bad... I'd have remembered if I
had to fiddle with permissions to get access to the serial port.

Anyway... moving on I'm trying to find what else I need to do to have
*any* program talk to my dial-up modem. My plan is to set up a dial-in
server, but first I need to know if the POTS RJ11 port of my FTTH ONT
supports data calls, as I suspect it does, and to do that I need to try
dialing some dial-up ISP

So far the modem is laughing at me. "see?, Linux guys and their
permissions!" it said.

;)
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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Tim]

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 04:31 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> Or perhaps the dialer program was pre-setup with the right permissions
> or handled things pretty much seamlessly for the end user?.

Back when I did dial-up on Fedora Core 4, I didn't have to mess around
with devices, nor their permissions.  I set the serial port to use in
the GUI configurator for the dial-up settings, and that was it.

There probably was some option for me to set in the network
configuration whether any user could bring the interface up and down,
rather than requiring root to do it.  I don't really know, but it sounds
familiar, and makes sense.

At one time, I did play around with linking /dev/modem to a /dev/tty,
but it proved a pointless waste of time.  It offered no real advantage,
other than not having to remember which tty the modem was connected to.

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 03:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/29/2012 03:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Third, to work around the problem add the following to the beginning of the 
>> init script.
>>
>> mkdir /var/run/uuidd
>> chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
> Their seems to be some other minor problems surrounding this suggestion.  
> Need to
> read the script and see what needs to be done for realbut eating dinner 
> at the
> moment  :-)
>

What you really want is to add this

if ! [ -d /var/run/uuidd ]
   then
  mkdir /var/run/uuidd
  chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd
fi

That doesn't fix the problem about "systemctl stop uuidd.service" not stopping 
the
service.

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Re: 3G Key

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 05/28/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

When I plug it on another computer, it is also recognize (I can tell
from lsusb) and I never have the option to give the Pin number.
How can I load the interface to give the PIN number?


Do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
It's supposed to switch the key from usb-storage to the "modem mode" 
after plugging it.


I dont have the key with me to confirm.

But, when I was running Debian, I used http://goo.gl/G9OlY to connect 
with such a key. In the screenshot you can see a field for the PIN in 
network Manager. If you dont run NEtwork Manager but wvdial instead, you 
have an option in "wvdial.conf" to set the PIN.


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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Zoltan Boszormenyi]

2012-05-29 09:31 keltezéssel, Fernando Cassia írta:



On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi > wrote:


SuSE might have been different with the serial device permissions.
But world-writable by default?


Or perhaps the dialer program was pre-setup with the right permissions or handled things 
pretty much seamlessly for the end user?.


Don't know. Just thinking aloud.


It must have been a setuid executable then.



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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 03:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> First, file a bugzilla.

I've decided not to spend any more time on this as uuidd appears to be broken 
in more
than one way.  It is also broken in more than one way +1 in F17.

First, if you install uuidd the /var/run/uuidd directory is created and you can 
do:

[root@f16-1 ~]# systemctl enable uuidd.service
uuidd.service is not a native service, redirecting to /sbin/chkconfig.
Executing /sbin/chkconfig uuidd on

and all appears fine as chkconfig shows

uuidd   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off

But then, if you do "systemctl start uuidd.service" the command appears to 
hang. 
When you ctrl-C it you exit and uuidd is running and a socket and uuidd.pid 
files are
created in /var/run/uuidd

However, "systemctl stop uuidd.service" does not stop the service.

In F17 it gets slightly worse as starting the service results in a SELinux 
denial.

So, if you need this service, I'll leave it to you to bugzilla it as you're more
interested it than I am.  :-)



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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:

> SuSE might have been different with the serial device permissions.
> But world-writable by default?
>

Or perhaps the dialer program was pre-setup with the right permissions or
handled things pretty much seamlessly for the end user?.

Don't know. Just thinking aloud.

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Re: what name does com1 rs232 get in F16+ ?

[Zoltan Boszormenyi]

2012-05-28 19:48 keltezéssel, Fernando Cassia írta:



On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi > wrote:


In the old(ish) times, you had to be in the "uucp" group to accomplish the 
same.


I used a modem in SUSE and also Linspire 4.0, and I don't remember having to fiddle with 
user permissions... but that was a long long time ago (last time I had to use dial-up).


I used RedHat Linux 4.3 (not RHEL!) that shipped with Applixware,
an office suite for UNIX... :-) I used almost all versions of RedHat Linux
from 6 to 9.0, then Fedora Linux starting with 1.

I also worked with POS machines using POSIX serial port programming
and I had to add my user to the uucp group before being able to access
/dev/ttyS0, also on RedHat brand.

SuSE might have been different with the serial device permissions.
But world-writable by default?



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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 03:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Third, to work around the problem add the following to the beginning of the 
> init script.
>
> mkdir /var/run/uuidd
> chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd

Their seems to be some other minor problems surrounding this suggestion.  Need 
to
read the script and see what needs to be done for realbut eating dinner at 
the
moment  :-)

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Re: uuidd fails to start

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/29/2012 02:04 PM, JD wrote:
> Booting with every fc16 kernel, I always get this failure.
> Boot.log shows
> Failed to start LSB: UUID daemon  FAILED
> See 'systemctl status uuidd.service' for details.
> # systemctl status uuidd.service
> uuidd.service - LSB: UUID daemon
>   Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/uuidd)
>   Active: failed since Tue, 29 May 2012 00:06:00 -0600
>  Process: 1003 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/uuidd start (code=exited,
> status=1/FAILURE)
>   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/uuidd.service
>
> So, I tried to start it manually:
>
> # uuidd
> Failed to open/create /var/run/uuidd/uuidd.pid: No such file or directory
>
> Even if I create dir /var/run/uuidd and restart the system,
> it fails the same way, because the dirs in /var/run get removed.
> But I can start it manually, if I create the dir and invoke uuidd.
> Of course, it does not survive a reboot.
>
> Also, I searched the system for uuidd.service
>
> # locate uuidd.service
> #
>
> # find /lib/systemd /etc/systemd -name uuidd.\*
> #
>
> So, where is this service file? Or is it created dynamically at boot time?
>
> Googling for uuidd.service shows some early development mods containing
> uuidd.service.in , but it is not in latest source code of
> util-linux-2.20.1-2.3.fc16.src.rpm.
>
> I anyone has a solution or a clue, please share.
>

First, file a bugzilla.

Second, uuidd is not a systemd component.  So, you won't find a service file.  
You
will find a /etc/init.d/uuidd file.

Third, to work around the problem add the following to the beginning of the 
init script.

mkdir /var/run/uuidd
chown uuidd:uuidd /var/run/uuidd

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