Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/04/2012 10:39 PM, Thibault Nélis wrote: On 06/05/2012 05:20 AM, JD wrote: Well, I was thinking of distros. Since I will not be the creator of the Linux ISO which I will be downloading and burning onto a DVD, how can I create those keys and insert them into the DVD without going through the whole rigmarole of building the OS and the whole ISO in the first place? At least, this is how I understand how this is supposed to work. If I am wrong, perhaps Alan Cox or Thibault Nelis, or Sam Varshavchik can elucidate. Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. If this thing is well designed (I assume it is), you won't have to flip a single bit on the boot loader and certainly not rebuild it (provided it does support secure boot in the first place). So, will there be a document that will accompany the ISO, advising the user what key to insert into the firmware so that the firmware will be able to authenticate the boot loader? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Manually installing Firefox 13
What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where do I unpack it?. Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox instead of on its own subdir like /opt/firefox FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 17 not booting after installing akmod nvidia driver
On 06/05/2012 07:46 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: Done exactly that. I did not add vga=0x317 as my monitor is 1900x1080 I rebuilt the grub configuration as you suggested. Note: I am multi-booting with Ubuntu so that I do have a system working unless I fix Fedora issue. I did not install Fedora grub instead using Ubuntu grub. So, I also updated Ubuntu's grub. When I did everything as you stated and rebooted. But once again when I booted into Fedora the boot started and then screen was stuck here: [ 13.172058] ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): em1: link becomes ready Swapnil OK. Lets try the following: 0. When Fedora boot, bring up the grub menu. Couldn't find a way to bring grub during Fedora boot. However, upon booting again the screen was stuck at the above command and I went to TTY2 to edit grub. 1. 'E' to edit the Fedora entry. 2. After rhgb quiet, add rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.modeset=0 vga=0x317 3. (Notice the '3' in the end) This is how mine now looks GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=quiet rhgb rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.modset=0 vga=0x317 3 3. Ctrl-X to reboot. 4. Fedora will be boot, but will not try to bring up X. 5. Login as root. 6. Please post the output of: $ /sbin/lsmod | grep nouveau nouveau 785681 1 nxm_wmi 12823 1 nouveau wmi 18697 2 mxm_wmi, nouveau video18980 1 nouveau drm_kms_helper 40409 1 nouveau ttm 79709 1 nouveau drm 241920 3 ttm, drm_kms_helper, nouveau i2c_core 38028 4 drm_kms_helper, nouveau, i2c_i801 7. Please post the output of: $ cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.3.4-5.fc17.x86_64 root=/dev/sda6 8. If nouveau is loaded (will be shown in the output of line 6), try removing it: $ /sbin/rmmod nouveau tried says: Error:Module mouveau is in use 9. Repeat line 6, does nouveau still appear? 10. If nouveau is not present, type: $ xinit 11. If nothing happens, press Ctrl-C, and attach the contents of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log 12. If everything worked just fine, edit /etc/default/grub, locate the rhgb quiet and add rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.modeset=0 vga=0x317. 13. Rebuild the grub configuration: $ grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 02:26 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where do I unpack it?. Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox instead of on its own subdir like /opt/firefox FC It depends on if you want it accessible to a single user or all users on a system. When I want to have it available to everyone I unpack in a directory I make called /usr/local/firefox and adjust the PATH variable accordingly. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: When I want to have it available to everyone I unpack in a directory I make called /usr/local/firefox and adjust the PATH variable accordingly. Thanks, that sounds good. Can we expect to have RPMs for F17 available, eventually? FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 02:46 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: When I want to have it available to everyone I unpack in a directory I make called /usr/local/firefox and adjust the PATH variable accordingly. Thanks, that sounds good. Can we expect to have RPMs for F17 available, eventually? FC Well, isn't FF 13 a Beta? -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Well, isn't FF 13 a Beta? Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
How to run KNetworkManager
Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/05/2012 08:02 AM, JD wrote: So, will there be a document that will accompany the ISO, advising the user what key to insert into the firmware so that the firmware will be able to authenticate the boot loader? I don't know if this has been discussed somewhere at Fedora, but I would assume the documentation will be updated to mention this at some point, and you'll probably get some help in f18 release notes too. You could raise the issue with the documentation team if it hasn't been already. The main problem is that the UEFI spec doesn't describe a standard UI to do this AFAIK, so every hardware vendor might implement it in a different way. If the process varies too much from user to user, Fedora might prefer to simply refer the user to the firmware's documentation. In any case, this information will be freely accessible somewhere, and I suspect some open source tools will also appear to assist if necessary. -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. for some reason itś available at download crew and hopefully soon will be made availaible at firefox site. http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes? Do you have the System Tray widget on your panel? I think, by default, you should see a pair of scissors, a speaker (volume control) and the Network Manager icon (RJ-45 connector icon). If you have some of the iconsbut not the RJ-45 you can right click on the area and pick System Tray Settings and make the changes you need to expose the network control. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.comwrote: On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/**software/mozilla-releases-** firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/**313252http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. for some reason itś available at download crew and hopefully soon will be made availaible at firefox site. http://www.downloadcrew.com/**article/24333-firefoxhttp://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
Am 05.06.2012 08:26, schrieb Fernando Cassia: What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where do I unpack it?. Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox instead of on its own subdir like /opt/firefox why in the world do you simply not wait some days until you get a regular update from yum? i will never understand people acting this way signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 01:07 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com mailto:martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. for some reason itś available at download crew and hopefully soon will be made availaible at firefox site. http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ saw firefox 13 for linux at download crew and also from mozilla: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-13.0os=linuxlang=en-US http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Headless F16-F17
Am 05.06.2012 00:46, schrieb Trever L. Adams: On 06/04/2012 02:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: yes and no the instructions from wiki are working fine if you make a own grub-entry and do not forget remove it after conversion BUT you need someone for a pwoer-cycle after the upgrade because reboot ends in a kerenl-panic directly after upgrade (tested in a virtual machine with 4 dsiks / RAID 10) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17 Thank you. I am sorry I missed these. This worked perfectly on two machines (one of which just has a screwy firmware that won't boot from a SATA DVD). The only caveat is that many services that were initd style in F16 and not systemd don't start properly. This includes zabbix server and agent you have always to make sure which services are enabled after a dist-upgrade in both directions: the one you need to run and the one you do not want to run especially if services are converted from sysv to systemd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
Am 05.06.2012 10:22, schrieb Edward M: On 06/05/2012 01:07 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com mailto:martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. for some reason itś available at download crew and hopefully soon will be made availaible at firefox site. http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ saw firefox 13 for linux at download crew and also from mozilla: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-13.0os=linuxlang=en-US http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox would it be possible to CLEANUP posts a LITTLE bit * remove tons of ** wrote with no content referred * remove useless blank lines * remove useless signatures * remove existing list-footers i did not for this post to show how i receive them and i am tired to spend more time for cleanup than answers signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Local filesystem with Stale NFS handle error - blocks F17 upgrade
Hi, I have an odd situation, which is blocking my F16-F17 upgrade. My system (Dell XPS 15z laptop) was installed fresh as F16 in January. I created / as btrfs, /boot as etx4 and /home as encrypted btrfs. The machine has been running fine since then. I tried to upgrade to F17 using the DVD but the /usr merge script failed. Checking the other screens for errors, it appears that the following files are causing the problem : # ls -l /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.* ls: cannot access /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.pyc: Stale NFS file handle ls: cannot access /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.pyo: Stale NFS file handle -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8182 Dec 12 17:30 /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.py # rpm -qf /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.pyc gnome-dvb-daemon-0.2.7-1.fc16.x86_64 # rm /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.pyc rm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gnomedvb/ui/preferences/Dialogs.pyc': Stale NFS file handle The weird thing is /usr is a local filesystem - there are no NFS mounted file systems at all. And this error occurs both within anaconda, and when the system is running normally under F16. (I have recently noiced that after a fresh boot into F16, the system load goes to 3 for about 5 minutes, with some tracker processes haveing very high I/O waits. Perhaps these 'stale NFS handles' are causing that problem too?) How can I resolve this? Should I boot off a rescue disk and run btrfsck /dev/sda2 and check the filesystem? Is that 'safe' at the moment? Any help would be much appreciated. TIA, Regards Arif -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. I got mine from http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/mozilla/firefox/releases/13.0/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-13.0.tar.bz2 after a redirect from http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-13.0os=linuxlang=en-US FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: why in the world do you simply not wait some days until you get a regular update from yum? i will never understand people acting this way Maybe I am so stupid as to want to install it on Linux and include Linux screenshots instead of Windows ones for a news story I plan to write, today, not a week after the software has been released. That's why. I appreciate your concern, though. ;-) FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 06/05/2012 01:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: would it be possible to CLEANUP posts a LITTLE bit * remove tons of ** wrote with no content referred * remove useless blank lines * remove useless signatures * remove existing list-footers i did not for this post to show how i receive them and i am tired to spend more time for cleanup than answers sure.not a problem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: why in the world do you simply not wait some days until you get a regular update from yum? i will never understand people acting this way Perhaps if you go back in the thread you will see that I also said Can we expect to have RPMs for F17 available, eventually?. My point was that if F17 will end its days with Firefox 12, then I'd install FF13 manually on top of it. On the other hand if someone tells me we expect to have it on the repos in 'x' days then it might or might not make sense for me to way, depending on the number of days. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of these displays no data. I get similar results with other dutch cities, and also for the few other European cities i've tried (London. Paris, Berlin). I guess this is because wettercom and the bbc have changed the format they provide their data in. I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a newer version where this works, or is there some other way of making it work? Regards, Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
Dnia wtorek, 5 czerwca 2012 11:55:31 Chris Rouch pisze: I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of these displays no data. I get similar results with other dutch cities, and also for the few other European cities i've tried (London. Paris, Berlin). I guess this is because wettercom and the bbc have changed the format they provide their data in. I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a newer version where this works, or is there some other way of making it work? I have the same problem on Fedora 17, try to use kde-plasma-yawp. It works for me -- Jan Litwiński http://janek.wroc.prv.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
It is logically impossible to have a so-called secure-boot for both a free OS and a non-free OS on the same platform. Actually it's perfectly possible with some careful planning. If you are using TXT or similar services you measure the entire boot path and that then defines your access to the TPM which is where you put your disk decryption keys. Neither OS can then get at the decryption key for the other. You can do that today 8) Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
On 06/05/2012 05:55 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of these displays no data. I get similar results with other dutch cities, and also for the few other European cities i've tried (London. Paris, Berlin). I guess this is because wettercom and the bbc have changed the format they provide their data in. I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a newer version where this works, or is there some other way of making it work? There are 2 widgets available by default. The one simply labeled Weather Forecast seems to work fine. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info # UUID=af00b8ae-193d-47b4-b0cd-ac6b61c310c8 / ext4defaults 1 1 UUID=d210f7ff-648a-4850-967e-f2b730765f1d /boot ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=b715c378-9006-46b4-b439-3c6fa870e990 /home ext3defaults 1 2 UUID=7f502361-16af-4b6f-98e0-23a1bd17bcb6 /var ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 /mnt/cntfs gid=ntfs,umask=0070 0# = UUID=1f4afb3a-051d-4cce-9c86-14cf111e669a swap swapdefaults 0 0 However if the marked line (for the mount point /mnt/c) is commented out, the system starts fine. Thanks in advance - jon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
Dnia wtorek, 5 czerwca 2012 18:19:17 Ed Greshko pisze: On 06/05/2012 05:55 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of these displays no data. I get similar results with other dutch cities, and also for the few other European cities i've tried (London. Paris, Berlin). I guess this is because wettercom and the bbc have changed the format they provide their data in. I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a newer version where this works, or is there some other way of making it work? There are 2 widgets available by default. The one simply labeled Weather Forecast seems to work fine. On my Fedora 17 kde this plasmoids don't show tke current weather conditions, temp etc,but plasmoids kde-plasma-yawp works fine -- Jan Litwiński http://janek.wroc.prv.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
On 06/05/2012 12:22 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info # UUID=af00b8ae-193d-47b4-b0cd-ac6b61c310c8 / ext4defaults 1 1 UUID=d210f7ff-648a-4850-967e-f2b730765f1d /boot ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=b715c378-9006-46b4-b439-3c6fa870e990 /home ext3defaults 1 2 UUID=7f502361-16af-4b6f-98e0-23a1bd17bcb6 /var ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 /mnt/cntfs gid=ntfs,umask=0070 0# = UUID=1f4afb3a-051d-4cce-9c86-14cf111e669a swap swapdefaults 0 0 However if the marked line (for the mount point /mnt/c) is commented out, the system starts fine. Thanks in advance - jon Boot with commented line, then uncomment it, then mount /mnt/c. What happens? -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
Thibault Nélis writes: Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. And I would also like a pony, too. Sheep; slaughter; etc… pgpVerJlavhK5.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
Thibault Nélis writes: The main problem is that the UEFI spec doesn't describe a standard UI to do this AFAIK, so every hardware vendor might implement it in a different way. Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. pgpo0WLjuArU6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
Alan Cox writes: It is logically impossible to have a so-called secure-boot for both a free OS and a non-free OS on the same platform. Actually it's perfectly possible with some careful planning. If you are using TXT or similar services you measure the entire boot path and that then defines your access to the TPM which is where you put your disk decryption keys. Neither OS can then get at the decryption key for the other. You can do that today 8) This will, of course, have the nice side-effect of preventing you from mounting the other OS's partition. But I think that this is not something that anyone is spending much time on. You're going to get more bang for the buck by simply preventing other OSes from getting a foothold; so no need to worry about other OSes accessing your own bits. Don't have to worry about disk encryption altogether, then. pgpiVXprfpQ1p.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
Am 05.06.2012 10:53, schrieb Fernando Cassia: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: why in the world do you simply not wait some days until you get a regular update from yum? i will never understand people acting this way Perhaps if you go back in the thread you will see that I also said Can we expect to have RPMs for F17 available, eventually?. My point was that if F17 will end its days with Firefox 12, then I'd install FF13 manually on top of it Firefox and Thunderbird are updated to the latest releases since FF4 / F15 everytime because upstream has a new versioning scheme you are really long enough on this list to recognize taht you always got the latest version signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Thibault Nélis writes: The main problem is that the UEFI spec doesn't describe a standard UI to do this AFAIK, so every hardware vendor might implement it in a different way. Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. They seem quite averse to that actually. UEFI itself cannot really tackle it because UI is out of the UEFI remit (and as I understand it always has been) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/05/2012 12:46 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Thibault Nélis writes: Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. And I would also like a pony, too. Sheep; slaughter; etc… I think there's a point where thoughtful skepticism and criticism turn into plain negativity. I'm not saying you reached it, but I don't know what you're trying to achieve with these kinds of comments either. If it's to warn people that every OEM on the planet has bad intentions or is weak and bought by Big Bad Corp, I think they kind of got that from earlier posts. In any case, I'd be happy to talk about all this in a year or two, when we'll have more information than speculations. (Don't worry I'm not offended or anything, I'm just saying we don't know jack yet.) -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/05/2012 01:29 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. They seem quite averse to that actually. UEFI itself cannot really tackle it because UI is out of the UEFI remit (and as I understand it always has been) I think he was being sarcastic. -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
Ed Greshko wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes? Do you have the System Tray widget on your panel? I think, by default, you should see a pair of scissors, a speaker (volume control) and the Network Manager icon (RJ-45 connector icon). If you have some of the iconsbut not the RJ-45 you can right click on the area and pick System Tray Settings and make the changes you need to expose the network control. This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? What if you don't run KNM - could one still access Network Management Settings, and if so how? The old system-config-network appears to have been replaced by something which I find completely useless. It only lists my ethernet interface (eth0), which I am not using. In my experience anything to do with networking on Fedora/KDE is utterly confusing and confused, compared eg with the simplicity of networking under Windows. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On 05/06/12 07:26, Fernando Cassia wrote: What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where do I unpack it?. Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox instead of on its own subdir like /opt/firefox FC wait a bit, fist build failed. There will be another: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=322078 -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 12:27 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 06/05/2012 12:22 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info # UUID=af00b8ae-193d-47b4-b0cd-ac6b61c310c8 / ext4defaults 1 1 UUID=d210f7ff-648a-4850-967e-f2b730765f1d /boot ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=b715c378-9006-46b4-b439-3c6fa870e990 /home ext3defaults 1 2 UUID=7f502361-16af-4b6f-98e0-23a1bd17bcb6 /var ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 /mnt/cntfs gid=ntfs,umask=0070 0# = UUID=1f4afb3a-051d-4cce-9c86-14cf111e669a swap swapdefaults 0 0 However if the marked line (for the mount point /mnt/c) is commented out, the system starts fine. Thanks in advance - jon Boot with commented line, then uncomment it, then mount /mnt/c. What happens? Very strange things happen. With the line commented out the device can be mounted without problems. But with the line uncommented this happens (note that I'm running as root): # mount /mnt/c mount: only root can mount UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 on /mnt/c This fstab line worked perfectly on Fedora-16. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
Jan Litwiński wrote: I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a newer version where this works, or is there some other way of making it work? There are 2 widgets available by default. The one simply labeled Weather Forecast seems to work fine. On my Fedora 17 kde this plasmoids don't show tke current weather conditions, temp etc,but plasmoids kde-plasma-yawp works fine Ignorance on my part, I'm sure, but how exactly does one see any of these widgets? I have kdeplasma-addons installed, and just yum-installed kde-plasma-yawp, but don't see any weather forecast on my screen. Nothing has been added to my system tray as far as I can see. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
On 06/05/2012 07:52 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ignorance on my part, I'm sure, but how exactly does one see any of these widgets? I have kdeplasma-addons installed, and just yum-installed kde-plasma-yawp, but don't see any weather forecast on my screen. Nothing has been added to my system tray as far as I can see. Go to the cashew on the right side of the panel at the bottom of your screenclick on it and then click on Add Widgets. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Firefox and Thunderbird are updated to the latest releases since FF4 / F15 everytime because upstream has a new versioning scheme Just unpacked it to /opt/firefox and updated the .desktop launcher in /usr/share/applications Works like a charm. I don't know if it's the placebo effect but it feels faster, too. Thanks for the tips to everyone. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: you are really long enough on this list to recognize taht you always got the latest version Not really. I used to stick with F9 and F10 on this machine for about two years, long past their expiry date, so to speak... I only got back up to date with F16 and F17, and then I never paid much close attention to Firefox updates, as I primarily used SeaMonkey. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
On 06/05/2012 07:37 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? What if you don't run KNM - could one still access Network Management Settings, and if so how? The old system-config-network appears to have been replaced by something which I find completely useless. It only lists my ethernet interface (eth0), which I am not using. In my experience anything to do with networking on Fedora/KDE is utterly confusing and confused, compared eg with the simplicity of networking under Windows. Just guesses on my part... But, you the NetworkManager package which is a system service that does the actual work of managing the connections. It has several other pieces that can be added on to take care of openVPN and pptp and a few other things. Then there is NetworkManager-gnome package which is the GNOME interface to NetworkManager. KDE has its own set of tools to interface with NetworkManager. Those tools can be accessed from the panel System Tray or if you don't have that you can always to to System Settings---Network Settings---Network Connections. I really don't have any problems using Network Manager. I found it mostly simple to setup an openVPN connection. Still have to write a bugzilla about how it should restrict where you put certs. But, without knowing the specifics about problems people encounterit is hard to comment. I also don't know if anything that I've just written addresses any of the questions you've raised. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
Thibault Nélis writes: In any case, I'd be happy to talk about all this in a year or two, when we'll have more information than speculations. (Don't worry I'm not offended or anything, I'm just saying we don't know jack yet.) Not really. We do know a lot, actually. There are plenty of historical facts that are available at our collective disposal. This is one of those cases where, based on past events, it's possible to have a fairly high level of confidence for how things will play out in the future. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. pgpbxR0V0040z.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:33:54 +0200 Thibault Nélis t...@stammed.net wrote: On 06/05/2012 01:29 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. They seem quite averse to that actually. UEFI itself cannot really tackle it because UI is out of the UEFI remit (and as I understand it always has been) I think he was being sarcastic. Ditto -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 17 not booting after installing akmod nvidia driver
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/2012 07:46 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: $ /sbin/lsmod | grep nouveau nouveau 785681 1 nxm_wmi 12823 1 nouveau wmi 18697 2 mxm_wmi, nouveau video 18980 1 nouveau drm_kms_helper 40409 1 nouveau ttm 79709 1 nouveau drm 241920 3 ttm, drm_kms_helper, nouveau i2c_core 38028 4 drm_kms_helper, nouveau, i2c_i801 Yup, nouveau is still being loaded, probably from your initrd. As long as this happens the nvidia driver will not be able to load, period. This may be because you're dual booting that for some reason the initrd isn't being updated properly? Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 17 not booting after installing akmod nvidia driver
On 06/05/2012 02:52 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/2012 07:46 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: $ /sbin/lsmod | grep nouveau nouveau 785681 1 nxm_wmi 12823 1 nouveau wmi 18697 2 mxm_wmi, nouveau video18980 1 nouveau drm_kms_helper 40409 1 nouveau ttm 79709 1 nouveau drm 241920 3 ttm, drm_kms_helper, nouveau i2c_core 38028 4 drm_kms_helper, nouveau, i2c_i801 Yup, nouveau is still being loaded, probably from your initrd. As long as this happens the nvidia driver will not be able to load, period. This may be because you're dual booting that for some reason the initrd isn't being updated properly? Is there any way I can tweak the Ubuntu Grub? This is my main machine so that solution will be better as I keep couple of distros on the system and fedora can't detect them so I keep Ubuntu Grub. If not I can take a risk, just for the sake of testing and getting it resolved, and reinstall Fedora and install Grub. Swapnil Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:44:22AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Very strange things happen. With the line commented out the device can be mounted without problems. But with the line uncommented this happens (note that I'm running as root): # mount /mnt/c mount: only root can mount UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 on /mnt/c This fstab line worked perfectly on Fedora-16. Do you see anything in dmesg or /var/log/messages? Does 'getent group ntfs' work? -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
iproute regression in F16
Hi, In a F15 box I've setup routing tables (/etc/iproute2/rt_tables) and a route to a specific host via a gateway. In F15 all works fine. Since I've upgraded in F16, it works only for a while. After, it does'nt work anymore (my host isn't reacheable). To make it work again, I have to delete the route and create it again. Has anyone an idea ? Thnaks for any help BR -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17 upgrade frustration
I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Short of a wipe/install that is. -- Mark Haney Software Developer/Consultant AB Emblem ma...@abemblem.com Linux marius.homelinux 3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
Ed Greshko wrote: This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? .. In my experience anything to do with networking on Fedora/KDE is utterly confusing and confused, compared eg with the simplicity of networking under Windows. KDE has its own set of tools to interface with NetworkManager. Those tools can be accessed from the panel System Tray or if you don't have that you can always to to System Settings---Network Settings---Network Connections. Yes, that was really my point. I wasn't sure if this route (through System Settings) was provided by NM or KNM. As far as I can see, one gets exactly the same information this way as if one right-clicks on what I think of as the NM icon in the system tray. So it is not clear to me what KNM adds to the meal. I really don't have any problems using Network Manager. I found it mostly simple to setup an openVPN connection. Still have to write a bugzilla about how it should restrict where you put certs. But, without knowing the specifics about problems people encounterit is hard to comment. I have openVPN working fine without involving NM, as far as I can see. What exactly does NM add to this? I see the tun0 interface with ifconfig, and can ping, ssh, etc without any problem. I do remember reading some time ago (long before F-17 came out) that one was going to have to set up openVPN through NM, but that day does not seem to have arrived yet, hopefully it never will. NM is fine if it works, which in my case is nearly all the time. It is when it fails to work that I find it infuriating. The error messages in /var/log/messages and elsewhere are completely unintelligible, and there is a total lack of documentation, eg what files does NM look at? Personally, I wish NM would just stick to WiFi, and not try to deal with Bluetooth, Mobile data, openVPN, etc. I never use NM for these (or for ethernet connections) and have never had any trouble with them. As far as I can see, the old network service has got mixed up with NM in some way, and is no longer a genuine alternative? In my view, NM/KNM typifies what I consider a bad development in Fedora, which has been going on for some time, in which one application seems to rely on several others, so that the whole system is gradually becoming more and more spaghetti-like. Dennis Ritchie's adage that a program should do one thing and do it well does not seem to come into the Fedora/KDE world-view. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 upgrade frustration
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:49:53AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Short of a wipe/install that is. ### End of Message from Mark Haney ### I've never had this problem, so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but have you tried booting the LiveCD, unmounting all HDD mounts, and running fsck on each? -- ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× Jeffrey A. Gipson ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland
Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 07:52 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ignorance on my part, I'm sure, but how exactly does one see any of these widgets? I have kdeplasma-addons installed, and just yum-installed kde-plasma-yawp, but don't see any weather forecast on my screen. Nothing has been added to my system tray as far as I can see. Go to the cashew on the right side of the panel at the bottom of your screenclick on it and then click on Add Widgets. Thanks very much. It was indeed total ignorance on my part. I never realised I had so many widgets at my command. (I always thought Add Widget meant that I had some private widget I wanted to add.) -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
On 06/05/2012 09:58 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Yes, that was really my point. I wasn't sure if this route (through System Settings) was provided by NM or KNM. As far as I can see, one gets exactly the same information this way as if one right-clicks on what I think of as the NM icon in the system tray. So it is not clear to me what KNM adds to the meal. Oh, of course the big difference between what is in System Settings and what is in the System Tray is that the System Tray has the bits which allow you to up/down the interfaces. What is in System Settings and System Tray are both considered to be part of KNM. They are both interfaces to NM but are both KDE specific and written using Qt (KDEish) as opposed to GTK+ (GNOMEiish) I really don't have any problems using Network Manager. I found it mostly simple to setup an openVPN connection. Still have to write a bugzilla about how it should restrict where you put certs. But, without knowing the specifics about problems people encounterit is hard to comment. As far as I can see, the old network service has got mixed up with NM in some way, and is no longer a genuine alternative? I don't really desire to start another thread that debates and speculates on why certain paths were taken. But, you certainly don't have to use NetworkManager if you don't want toat least in F16 (I've not played with F17). There isn't an option to not use it on installlike there is LVM. But, you could switch after install. I think it has been talked about recently. I've not had any failures in anything NetworkManager related recently. But, when you do be sure to bring it up. :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 upgrade frustration
On 06/05/2012 09:49 AM, Mark Haney wrote: I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Short of a wipe/install that is. I've never run into this, but from a few minutes spent on bugzilla.redhat.com, things don't sound great for you. I see sparse reports of the same issue over various releases, with no definitive fix. In the past, someone was able to work around it by modifying install.img: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557989#c14 But there is apparently no longer an install.img to modify, and I have no clue where you would look to do something similar now. Maybe someone more knowledgeable could point you in the right direction? Good Luck Woogie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
Ed Greshko wrote: As far as I can see, the old network service has got mixed up with NM in some way, and is no longer a genuine alternative? But, you certainly don't have to use NetworkManager if you don't want toat least in F16 (I've not played with F17). There isn't an option to not use it on installlike there is LVM. But, you could switch after install. I think it has been talked about recently. I think the problem with the network service now (and this has been the case for some time, certainly in Fedora-16) is that one used to be able to use system-config-network to set up or modify the interfaces. But now if I start the network service it just tries to bring up eth1 and wlan0 (in my case) and if it fails there seems nothing much one can do about it, except to look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 (or whatever) and see if any modification there will help. (System-config-network does not even mention wlan0, only eth1.) -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
On 06/05/2012 12:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes? Do you have the System Tray widget on your panel? I think, by default, you should see a pair of scissors, a speaker (volume control) and the Network Manager icon (RJ-45 connector icon). If you have some of the iconsbut not the RJ-45 you can right click on the area and pick System Tray Settings and make the changes you need to expose the network control. I am running xfce4, so I do not see such widgets on the panel. I thought there should be an executable binary named knetwormanager, which I see mentioned in some blogs. Reason I wanted to use it is because I was told by a kde apps developer that knetwork manager shows The signal strength of each network is indicated by a series of bars, each one representing 10%. That is useful to me so I can see at a glance how my wifi is doing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
On 06/05/2012 03:22 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info # UUID=af00b8ae-193d-47b4-b0cd-ac6b61c310c8 / ext4defaults 1 1 UUID=d210f7ff-648a-4850-967e-f2b730765f1d /boot ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=b715c378-9006-46b4-b439-3c6fa870e990 /home ext3defaults 1 2 UUID=7f502361-16af-4b6f-98e0-23a1bd17bcb6 /var ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 /mnt/cntfsgid=ntfs,umask=007 0 0#= UUID=1f4afb3a-051d-4cce-9c86-14cf111e669a swap swapdefaults 0 0 However if the marked line (for the mount point /mnt/c) is commented out, the system starts fine. Thanks in advance - jon Here is my entry for my windows partition in fstab and it works just fine: UUID=4088A66688A65A64 /sda1 ntfs uid=520,gid=520,rw,exec,umask=007 0 1 except that umask has absolutely no effect on file perms. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
On 06/05/2012 04:37 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes? Do you have the System Tray widget on your panel? I think, by default, you should see a pair of scissors, a speaker (volume control) and the Network Manager icon (RJ-45 connector icon). If you have some of the iconsbut not the RJ-45 you can right click on the area and pick System Tray Settings and make the changes you need to expose the network control. This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? What if you don't run KNM - could one still access Network Management Settings, and if so how? The old system-config-network appears to have been replaced by something which I find completely useless. It only lists my ethernet interface (eth0), which I am not using. In my experience anything to do with networking on Fedora/KDE is utterly confusing and confused, compared eg with the simplicity of networking under Windows. xfce4 desktop (and I assume gnome as well) have an icon similar to the windows network icon (image of two monitors side by side). This is the nm-applet and it does work for setting up the wireless and the wired. You right-click it and select Edit Connections, and take it from there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 upgrade frustration
On 06/05/2012 10:09 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote: I've never had this problem, so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but have you tried booting the LiveCD, unmounting all HDD mounts, and running fsck on each? Yes. Multiple times. I've run vgck, pvck, fsck and any other 'ck' I could come up with. There is nothing wrong with my file systems. At least, nothing the utilities can find. -- Mark Haney Software Developer/Consultant AB Emblem ma...@abemblem.com Linux marius.homelinux 3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to apply updates to a system with no Internet access?
Fulko Hew wrote: Just because there is no internet access, doesn't mean there isn't network access, and sometimes you need need to update to newer stuff when you change/update your own applications. True, but you should actually think and make a reasoned decision. Updates can cause problems, and if you’re in the lucky position of being able to lock everything down and rely on something else (like an airgap and no accessible drives or USB ports), you should consider whether that is a preferable route. James. -- E-mail: james@ | I tried a home printer but the home blew away. aprilcottage.co.uk | -- Alan Cox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Manually installing Firefox 13
Am 05.06.2012 14:05, schrieb Fernando Cassia: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: you are really long enough on this list to recognize that you always got the latest version Not really. I used to stick with F9 and F10 on this machine for about two years, long past their expiry date, so to speak... I only got back up to date with F16 and F17, and then I never paid much close attention to Firefox updates, as I primarily used SeaMonkey koji buildserver is your friend xulrunner/firefox/thunderbird are depending http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4569 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=39 the packages are not puplished, but better to mess with software making the idea of a package-managment absurd (yes, all 3 are working for me on F16) - no reason to wait a week because these are usually also security-updates [harry@rh:~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-13.0-1.fc16.x86_64 [harry@rh:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-13.0-1.fc16.x86_64 [harry@rh:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner xulrunner-13.0-1.fc16.x86_64 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17 virt-install with kickstart from local ftp
Hi, I recently upgraded from F16 to F17 and during post install I usually setup a virtual test box to play around with. The following command worked with F16: #/usr/bin/virt-install --vnc --noautoconsole --name=vserver.example.com --ram=768 --arch=i386 --vcpus=1 --os-type=linux --os-variant=rhel6 --hvm --accelerate --disk=/dev/vgsystem/vserver.example.com -m 52:54:00:42:2C:C4 -w bridge=virbr0 --location=ftp://192.168.122.1/pub/fedora/linux/releases/16/Fedora/i386/os/ --extra-args='ks=ftp://192.168.122.1/pub/kickstart/vserver.cfg ip=192.168.122.100 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.122.1 dns=208.67.222.222 noipv6 s=100' With F17 and the dracut based initial ramdisk, this command fails. I receive the following error message and a kernel panic before anaconda even starts: FATAL: Please supply bootdev argument for multiple ip= lines I also tried the 'ip=ip::gw:nm[:dev]' method to configure the network interface the dracut way: # /usr/bin/virt-install --vnc --noautoconsole --name=vserver.example.com --ram=1024 --arch=i386 --vcpus=1 --os-type=linux --os-variant=rhel6 --hvm --accelerate --disk=/dev/vgsystem/vserver.example.com -m 52:54:00:42:89:08 -w bridge=virbr0 --location=ftp://192.168.122.1/pub/fedora/linux/releases/17/Fedora/i386/os '--extra-args=ks=ftp://192.168.122.1/pub/kickstart/vserver.cfg ip=192.168.122.100::192.168.122.1:255.255.255.0 nameserver=208.67.222.222 noipv6 s=100' With this command the virtual machine boots and drops to a dracut debug shell. However no network interface gets configured and I receive the following messages: dracut Warning: Unable to process initqueue dracut Warning: /dev/root does not exist Could someone please enlighten me, how I may automatically kickstart my test box with Fedora 17? Thanks! Best regards, Reiner pgp65fxq3wj1i.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
A file named [?
On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's malware?? What should I do? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote: On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's malware?? What should I do? you should leave it there -- it's an actual command. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 upgrade frustration
On 06/05/2012 09:56 AM, Mark Haney wrote: On 06/05/2012 10:09 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote: I've never had this problem, so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but have you tried booting the LiveCD, unmounting all HDD mounts, and running fsck on each? Yes. Multiple times. I've run vgck, pvck, fsck and any other 'ck' I could come up with. There is nothing wrong with my file systems. At least, nothing the utilities can find. Can you reboot and check the actual clock in your BIOS? Make sure it reflects reality. If it's way behind, the boot loader may think the last modified timestamp in the root inode is in the future and triggers the fsck stuff. It bit me a couple of times with F16 on my laptop. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On 2012/06/05 11:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote:
On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is
the left square bracket, and nothing else.
Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally
if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read.
Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's
malware??
What should I do?
you should leave it there -- it's an actual command.
rday
Specifically it belongs to coreutils-8.4-16.el6.x86_64.
{^_^}
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Re: A file named [?
On 06/05/2012 11:19 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote: On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's malware?? What should I do? you should leave it there -- it's an actual command. It's actually in /usr/bin. It's legit and a version of the test command. Buried in it (via the strings command), you'll find: Usage: test EXPRESSION or: test or: [ EXPRESSION ] or: [ ] or: [ OPTION -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to run KNetworkManager
JD wrote: On 06/05/2012 12:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes? Do you have the System Tray widget on your panel? I think, by default, you should see a pair of scissors, a speaker (volume control) and the Network Manager icon (RJ-45 connector icon). If you have some of the iconsbut not the RJ-45 you can right click on the area and pick System Tray Settings and make the changes you need to expose the network control. I am running xfce4, so I do not see such widgets on the panel. kde-plasma-networkmangement is specific to kde/plasma only. -- rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 18:16 +, Beartooth wrote: On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's malware?? What should I do? You can find out if a particular file is part of a package that you've installed like this: $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/[ coreutils-8.12-7.fc16.x86_64 To check whether any files in that package have changed, substitute -V (verify) for -q in the line above. In the case of the executable named [, it's the test command in sheep's clothing, part of the coreutils package on most Fedora systems. See man test for details. -Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 15:47 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:44:22AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Very strange things happen. With the line commented out the device can be mounted without problems. But with the line uncommented this happens (note that I'm running as root): # mount /mnt/c mount: only root can mount UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 on /mnt/c This fstab line worked perfectly on Fedora-16. Do you see anything in dmesg or /var/log/messages? Does 'getent group ntfs' work? Nope. You have found the problem. As soon as I created the ntfs group, everything started to work. Though I found this error message # mount /mnt/c mount: only root can mount UUID=E0649EB1649E8A44 on /mnt/c which I got while running as root to be rather deceptive. Thanks - jon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
Hi, On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows no code, whether it's malware?? What should I do? you should leave it there -- it's an actual command. Specifically it belongs to coreutils-8.4-16.el6.x86_64. It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [ $? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command. If you're really concerned about security, you could check out rkhunter or search for detecting root kits. Best, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0
Hi, I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on first boot with the message Oh no! Something have gone wrong. A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the system administrator along with a sad computer face. I tried the 32 and the 64 bit version and both present the same issue. Any ideas? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [ $? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see man [. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.93 0.80 1.02 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0
On 06/05/2012 11:48 AM, Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: Any ideas? Thanks in advance Yes: shoot the ID10T who decided that this was a useful error message. If nothing else, it should give you some diagnostics to help you (or whoever your system administrator is) figure out what happened. AIUI, this is strictly a Gnome 3 problem. You might want to boot into whatever init 3 is called now and use yum to install KDE, XFCE or some other DE. That way, you can use your alternate DE to do whatever's needed to get Gnome running again, assuming that it's your preferred DE. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. If this thing is well designed (I assume it is), you won't have to flip a single bit on the boot loader and certainly not rebuild it (provided it does support secure boot in the first place). I am trying to understand the pros and cons in the arguments here, but I am just a mere mortal so I will ask what I don't understand. 1) Red Hat will pay $99 to each OEM that exists in order to boot Fedora 18 which should come out in parallel when windows 8 comes out? 2) Secure boot could be disabled in the bios and one could bypass the pile of M$ crap? 3) Other OSes also have to boot, since Red Hat has/is/will be paying $99 to M$/other company to be able to safely boot Fedora, they can just mimick Fedora's bootup|kernel parameters and not pay to securely boot? 4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has been mentioned here is http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to understand and I would have to agree with the suggestions others have shared here in this thread. Only time will tell how this issue will be affected once we get there. Best Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [ $? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see man [. -- I had seen this and thought I created it with a redirection to it like file [ by mistake so I nuked it :( but it was not in /usr/bin/ or in /bin(as in Fedora 17) so that makes me feel better :) It was in Documents folder, so all is well. Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. If this thing is well designed (I assume it is), you won't have to flip a single bit on the boot loader and certainly not rebuild it (provided it does support secure boot in the first place). I am trying to understand the pros and cons in the arguments here, but I am just a mere mortal so I will ask what I don't understand. 1) Red Hat will pay $99 to each OEM that exists in order to boot Fedora 18 which should come out in parallel when windows 8 comes out? No. The $99 is a one time fee to verisign. Under this plan (which has not been approved or agreed on yet), Fedora would pay the fee for itself and get it's bootloader shim signed by the MS key. This shim would have the Fedora keys in it to check and only boot Fedora signed grub2 and kernel. Fedora (or things using it's shim/grub2/kernel) would boot out of the box on secure boot enabled hardware. 2) Secure boot could be disabled in the bios and one could bypass the pile of M$ crap? Yes. You can disable secure boot in the firmware. You can also remove MS keys and replace them with your own and use Secure boot. 3) Other OSes also have to boot, since Red Hat has/is/will be paying $99 to M$/other company to be able to safely boot Fedora, they can just mimick Fedora's bootup|kernel parameters and not pay to securely boot? If the Other OS ships and uses Fedora's bootloader shim, grub2, and kernel, then yes, it will just boot. If they modify these or have their own, it will not. They can also pay $99 to get access to the Microsoft sysdev portal, and get their boot shim signed by MS, then it will work in secure boot mode. 4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has been mentioned here is http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to understand and I would have to agree with the suggestions others have shared here in this thread. Only time will tell how this issue will be affected once we get there. yeah, he did a good writeup, but lots of people seem to not understand all the issues here. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote:
It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [
$? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command.
Not Bash.
$ type [
[ is a shell builtin
Also see man [.
$ type /usr/bin/[
/usr/bin/[ is /usr/bin/[
{^_^}
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When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas
When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas what this
is???
Thanks all! Fedora is terrific!
SES
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2333, in
_update_packages
txmbr = self.yumbase.update(po=pkg)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 4571, in
update
updated_pkg = self.getInstalledPackageObject(updated)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 3563, in
getInstalledPackageObject
raise Errors.RpmDBError, _('Package tuple $s could not be found in
rpmdb') $ str(pkgtup)
RpmDBError: Package tuple ('libpurple', 'x86_64', '0', '2.10.2',
'1.fc17') could not be found in rpmdb
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Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:48:26 -0500 Manuel Gonzalez Montoya manuel.gonzalez.mont...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on first boot with the message Oh no! Something have gone wrong. A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the system administrator along with a sad computer face. I tried the 32 and the 64 bit version and both present the same issue. Any ideas? Thanks in advance install the vmware-tools. The graphic drivers are not compatible is my guess. -- Brian Millett Ambassador Delenn remains indisposed. 'Indisposed? She's in a cocoon.' Yes. -- [ Lennier and Londo, Revelations] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [ $? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see man [. $ type /usr/bin/[ /usr/bin/[ is /usr/bin/[ Of course. What are you trying to prove? Bash doesn't run that command. man test explains it, too: | NOTE: your shell may have its own version of test and/or [, which usu‐ | ally supersedes the version described here. Please refer to your | shell's documentation for details about the options it supports. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 1.78 1.58 1.44 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Printing in Landscape format in KDE.
F15, F17 . Can't print in Landscape Format when printing a calendar in KOrganizer . I Can print Landscape format in Libre-Office, and other Apps. What could be the problem ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:17:47PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [ $? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see man [. $ type /usr/bin/[ /usr/bin/[ is /usr/bin/[ Of course. What are you trying to prove? Bash doesn't run that command. man test explains it, too: | NOTE: your shell may have its own version of test and/or [, which usu‐ | ally supersedes the version described here. Please refer to your | shell's documentation for details about the options it supports. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 1.78 1.58 1.44 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org ### End of Message from Michael Schwendt ### I hope this puts the issue to bed: An unadorned '[' in bash (or borne sh, or zsh, and probably others) actually is a built-in command. This speed tests tremendously by preventing execing every time a test needs to be performed. For some ancient shells test (a.k.a. '/usr/bin/[') was an external command. It is still provided for backwards compatibility. In bash you *can* use it, so long as you either call it long-hand: $ /usr/bin/\[ -n $var ] But it would be stupid to do so. Every once in a while, you might encounter a program that execs your commands directly, i.e. *not* in a shell. IIRC, Udev RUN= and PROGRAM== are examples of these. If you want to test something, then you would have to use something like: PROGRAM==bash -c '[ $a -eq $b ]' This is clumsy*. Because you have /usr/bin/\[ in the path, you could probably get away with: PROGRAM=='[ $a -eq $b ]' * ok, it's not completely fair to call this clumsy, because when you run bash, you also get all your functions, aliases and other built-ins, so oftentimes it actually *is* better to use 'bash -c'. HTH -- ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× Jeffrey A. Gipson ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A file named [?
On 2012/06/05 13:17, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote:
On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote:
It's used in shell scripts, such as an if statement, such as if [
$? -eq 0 ]. Bash actually runs that command.
Not Bash.
$ type [
[ is a shell builtin
Also see man [.
$ type /usr/bin/[
/usr/bin/[ is /usr/bin/[
Of course. What are you trying to prove?
Bash doesn't run that command. man test explains it, too:
The file is still essential. Some script files may not work if it is
removed because not all scripts on the system use bash.
{^_^}
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Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 13:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: 4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has been mentioned here is http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to understand and I would have to agree with the suggestions others have shared here in this thread. Only time will tell how this issue will be affected once we get there. It shows you how confusing things can be. In reading the document at the web site listed above, I got the impression that each individual user has to pay Verisign $99. It seems strange to me that the requirement would be only one $99 payment from RedHat. -- === Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it. -- Russell Baker === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: Hi, I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on first boot with the message Oh no! Something have gone wrong. A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the system administrator Try rpm -e fprintd from a text console, as you might be hitting bug 810040 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810040 Michael Young -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
/dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1
This is a problem which is being kicked around on another mailing list, devoted to the wview weather server, without very good results, so I have taken the liberty of putting it to a wider audience: I have a system with a device (a Davis VantagePro2 weather console) attached to a USB port. When the system starts, the device is visible as /dev/ttyUSB0. A wview server attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 and runs fine till suddenly the device disappears from /dev/ttyUSB0 and appears as /dev/ttyUSB1, at which time the server fails. I suspect (though without much evidence) that the reason for the device moving around is that there is a brief interruption of service from the device, so that it appears to the computer that a *new* device has appeared, which it has to find a device name for before it had deleted the old name of the device. I have tried the obvious, to open what ought to be the permanent location of the device, namely: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0001-if00-port0 But the software stops working when the change takes place, evidently because /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0001-if00-port0 is a dynamically updated symbolic link to /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1, as the case may be. The server can only be made to work again by restarting it. Does anyone know of a way to keep the USB device open at a known location, maybe by creating a permanent entry in /dev, and bypassing udev? Any more theories about what, in general, is happening? Thanks - jon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 16:00 -0400, SES wrote: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas what this is??? Upgrading from what version (F14, F15, F16, ...)? Upgrading with what method (DVD, preupgrade, yum)? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 2012/06/05 13:48, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 13:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has
been
mentioned here is
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html
It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to
understand and I would have to agree with the suggestions others
have
shared here in this thread. Only time will tell how this issue will
be affected once we get there.
It shows you how confusing things can be. In reading the document at the
web site listed above, I got the impression that each individual user
has to pay Verisign $99. It seems strange to me that the requirement
would be only one $99 payment from RedHat.
One time processing fee for the certificate.
{^_^}
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Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1
as /dev/ttyUSB0. A wview server attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 and runs fine till suddenly the device disappears from /dev/ttyUSB0 and appears as /dev/ttyUSB1, at which time the server fails. You need to fix the server. I suspect (though without much evidence) that the reason for the device moving around is that there is a brief interruption of service from the device, so that it appears to the computer that a *new* device has appeared, which it has to find a device name for before it had deleted the old name of the device. That sounds likely - dmesg will probably tell you. Does anyone know of a way to keep the USB device open at a known location, maybe by creating a permanent entry in /dev, and bypassing udev? Any more theories about what, in general, is happening? Even if you overwrote the old device node the server needs to re-open the file handle. Given the server will get notification that the port has failed (eg a SIGHUP or going ready for read and getting an error on the read) it shouldn't be too hard to fix it. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) You thought I was joking? pgpRpYF2kJDV4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1
Jonathan Ryshpan writes: I have tried the obvious, to open what ought to be the permanent location of the device, namely: /dev/serial/by-id/usb- Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0001-if00-port0 But the software stops working when the change takes place, evidently because /dev/serial/by-id/usb- Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0001-if00-port0 is a dynamically updated symbolic link to /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1, as the case may be. The server can only be made to work again by restarting it. That strongly suggests that, even if the device reconnects under the same name, your software app will still choke. If your app still chokes if it's told to open /dev/serial/by-id, then it's going to have a problem when your USB device disconnects and reconnects, even if it keeps the same /dev/ttyUSB? name. You've just proven this yourself: by pointing your software to open /dev/serial/by-id. After all, the device name now, as far as your software is concerned, remains the same. The fact that the underlying symlink changes is irrelevant; unless your software manually checks if it is opening a symlink, then reads it and proceeds to use the real path. This seems very unlikely. So, your real problem is that your software is unable to handle the device disconnecting and reconnecting. The different device name is a red herring. Either the software needs to get fixed, so at least it can recover by reopening the device (and you pointing it to the unchanged /dev/serial/by-id path), or the underlying root cause of your USB device disconnect must be identified, and fixed. pgpnY2Hl9YLUe.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2333, in
_update_packages
txmbr = self.yumbase.update(po=pkg)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 4571, in
update
updated_pkg = self.getInstalledPackageObject(updated)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 3563, in
getInstalledPackageObject
raise Errors.RpmDBError, _('Package tuple $s could not be found in
rpmdb') $ str(pkgtup)
RpmDBError: Package tuple ('libpurple', 'x86_64', '0', '2.10.2',
'1.fc17') could not be found in rpmdb
Update in what sense: yum update ?
If so it looks like the rpm database has become corrupt. Make a backup
of it just in case, then run rpm --rebuilddb.
Also file a bug.
Alan
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Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/06/12 09:22, Sam Varshavchik wrote: JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) You thought I was joking? Why am I growing more nervous by the minute? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Scolling bar missing single step arrow
Hello, I install F17, the single step arrow are no longer there any body have a clue on how to get them back? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?
Maybe try ntfs-3g? I'm not really up-to-date on what's the default NTFS driver now, but I know this used to be some kind of mess. # mount -t ntfs-3g Options[0] may be different. [0] http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-manual/ -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/05/2012 04:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) You thought I was joking? I meant much was said that MS would never want to support booting anything other than windows :) Then you say that MS would make sure OEM's know how to let users to install keys for other OS'es. So I thought you were deliberately saying the total opposite of what some have said on this thread, in order to sound facetious or even sarcastic. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
