Re: Fedora 17

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 10:49 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:

'cutting-edge' is always preferred to 'bleeding-edge'. 'bleeding-edge'
scares quite a few people :)


If that's all you don't like about it, I guess I did a pretty good job 
especially when you consider that I won't use Gnome 3.

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Re: Howto disable "advanced" form of autocompletition introduced with F15/16 (completion-help)?

[Gordon Messmer]

On 06/11/2012 03:22 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

I really dislike this behaviour, as its slow and sometimes doesn't
result in the results I intended - so is there a way to revert back to
the "old" behaviour, where bash would simply look for matching files
in the current directory?


yum install ./package


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Re: dracut fails to gen initramfs

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/19/2012 01:41 PM, JD wrote:
> # dracut -f /boot/initramfs-3.3.8-1.img 3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
> F: Failed to install /usr/lib64/hmaccalc/sha512hmac.hmac
>
> So, why does dracut need to write anything in /usr/lib64?
> I am running 32 bit system:
> # uname -r
> 3.3.7-1.fc16.i686
>
> # rpm -q dracut
> dracut-013-22.fc16.noarch
>
>

rpm -q hmaccalc   outputs?

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Re: Fedora 17

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 11:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Gnome 3 is a bleeding-edge desktop environment that's currently
> taking 
> its users down a bold, new, avant-guard path.  If you like 
> experimenting, or you're looking for a new approach to the desktop, 
> Gnome may be just the thing for you.
> 
> How's that? 

'cutting-edge' is always preferred to 'bleeding-edge'. 'bleeding-edge'
scares quite a few people :)
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dracut fails to gen initramfs

[JD]

# dracut -f /boot/initramfs-3.3.8-1.img 3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
F: Failed to install /usr/lib64/hmaccalc/sha512hmac.hmac

So, why does dracut need to write anything in /usr/lib64?
I am running 32 bit system:
# uname -r
3.3.7-1.fc16.i686

# rpm -q dracut
dracut-013-22.fc16.noarch


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Re: unable to delete abrt events

[JD]

On 06/18/2012 09:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/19/2012 12:13 PM, JD wrote:

I have 6 old events in abrt, and I am unable to delete them.
Clicking on any of these events and clicking on delete has
no effect.
How else can one delete these events?



cd /var/spool/abrt

rm -rf  the directories ccpp* that have your GID.


Alas, I already resorted to this sledge hammer approach :)
We keep getting new tools that always have some quirks.
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Re: Problems with update -- redhat-lsb conflicts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 12:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > [There's a small chance that fundamental changes in the
> > redhat-lsb packaging influenced the multiarch repo composing. Its package
> > changelog doesn't mention anything obvious, however.]
> 
> I've now also filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/832771
> 
> The new redhat-lsb moved /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3 from redhat-lsb to the
> redhat-lsb-core subpackage. I think this affects the multiarch repo compose.

It's still there, after today's burst of updates.  Thanks for filing the
bug.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 08:01 PM, William Brown wrote:

When a cpu is made, they test it's ability to run stable at the max
frequency of that die. If it passes, it gets shipped at say, 3.8Ghz.


AIUI, if the design spec is 3.8Ghz, that's the highest they check. 
Thus, chips shipped at that speed may be able to go faster, but nobody 
tests for it.  If so, that'd mean that if you plan on overclocking, you 
have to start out with a top speed chip, but then, it's hard to see why 
you wouldn't anyway if that's your plan.

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Re: unable to delete abrt events

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/19/2012 12:13 PM, JD wrote:
> I have 6 old events in abrt, and I am unable to delete them.
> Clicking on any of these events and clicking on delete has
> no effect.
> How else can one delete these events?
>
>

cd /var/spool/abrt

rm -rf  the directories ccpp* that have your GID.

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unable to delete abrt events

[JD]

I have 6 old events in abrt, and I am unable to delete them.
Clicking on any of these events and clicking on delete has
no effect.
How else can one delete these events?


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Re: scriplet failure

[JD]

On 06/18/2012 08:40 PM, JD wrote:

On 06/18/2012 08:37 PM, JD wrote:
Did anyone get this message when kernel was being installed during 
update?


Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-debug-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686



Also, I noticed this in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg:
There is no initial ramdisk being loaded.

menuentry 'Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug)' --class fedora --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {

load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9

echo 'Loading Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug)'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug 
root=UUID=259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9 ro single rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0
rd.dm=0  KEYTABLE=us quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
}
menuentry 'Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686)' --class fedora --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {

load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9

echo 'Loading Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686)'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686 
root=UUID=259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9 ro single rd.md=0 
rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=
0  KEYTABLE=us quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
}


After manually adding the line:

initrd /boot/initrd-plymouth.img

below the line:

echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'

I rebooted.
Kernel panic'ed

See image of screen at

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qhstew

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Re: Could we get rid of this harmless but teasing bug ?

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/19/2012 11:18 AM, Quicksort wrote:
> PLatform: Fedora 17 x 64
>
> When grub2 loads (OK, you know):
>
> error: file '/grub2/locale/en.mo.gz' not found
>
> So many bug fixes, why not one for this one?
>
>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817187

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Re: scriplet failure

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/19/2012 11:37 AM, JD wrote:
> Did anyone get this message when kernel was being installed during update?
>
> Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
> Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
> kernel-debug-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
>

No problems here

3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.PAE

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Re: scriplet failure

[JD]

On 06/18/2012 08:37 PM, JD wrote:
Did anyone get this message when kernel was being installed during 
update?


Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-debug-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686



Also, I noticed this in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg:
There is no initial ramdisk being loaded.

menuentry 'Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug)' --class fedora --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {

load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9

echo 'Loading Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug)'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686.debug 
root=UUID=259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9 ro single rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0
rd.dm=0  KEYTABLE=us quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
}
menuentry 'Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux 
--class gnu --class os {

load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9

echo 'Loading Fedora (3.3.8-1.fc16.i686)'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686 
root=UUID=259d7b44-1122-42cc-b504-3dd40027d3b9 ro single rd.md=0 
rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=
0  KEYTABLE=us quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
}
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scriplet failure

[JD]

Did anyone get this message when kernel was being installed during update?

Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686
Non-fatal POSTTRANS scriptlet failure in rpm package 
kernel-debug-3.3.8-1.fc16.i686


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Re: Skype 4 and F17

[Joachim Backes]

On 06/18/2012 10:41 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

Anyone have the new Skype 4.0.0.7 for Fedora working with F17?  For me,
it starts, but just waits forever while trying to log in.  The old
version 2.2.0.35 works fine.

TIA.



4.0.0.7 works for me too.

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Re: Skype 4 and F17

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 17:08 -0400, Martin Airs wrote: 
> On Monday 18 Jun 2012 16:41:56 Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > Anyone have the new Skype 4.0.0.7 for Fedora working with F17?  For me,
> > it starts, but just waits forever while trying to log in.  The old
> > version 2.2.0.35 works fine.
> 
> It works here, I have F17  X86_64 KDE 4.8.90
> 
> I downloaded the F16 i386 rpm from the site and yum installed it, it does 
> take 
> a little while to start tho, it sits there for maybe a minute, but then when 
> it does startup its already logged in.
> 
> maybe it will log in if you wait long enough, mines set to autologin, so that 
> might be what the wait is all about, I'm not sure

OK the difference is, 4.0.0.7 works unless I have my AnyConnect VPN up.
2.2.0.35 works through the VPN or without it.

Does that provide a clue?

> 
> Martin

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Could we get rid of this harmless but teasing bug ?

[Quicksort]

PLatform: Fedora 17 x 64

When grub2 loads (OK, you know):

error: file '/grub2/locale/en.mo.gz' not found

So many bug fixes, why not one for this one?


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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[William Brown]

> ...even when the hardware is MEANT to be overclocked?

When a cpu is made, they test it's ability to run stable at the max
frequency of that die. If it passes, it gets shipped at say, 3.8Ghz. If
it fails, it gets tested if it runs stable at say 3.4. If it passes,
great, they lock it to 3.4 and ship. If not, they slow it down again, to
say 3.0 ghz and test etc etc etc.

So really, these chips are running at what the manufacturer, intel or
amd, who hire some of the worlds best electronic engineers in the world,
determines to be a stable and fast clock rate. They may be able to
achieve "a bit more" performance, but they would rather produce a high
quality working product, than an unstable broken one.

Now comes along someone who thinks "Yeah man, I can over clock and get
more bang for my buck!". And intel's or amd's marketing managers say
"Yes, we can milk them for more money by letting them 'overclock' our
hardware, all we need to do is flag a few registers on the same die, and
charge more for it!". Such is overclocking in this day and age. What now
do you have to show for your overclocking effort? A damaged cpu die?

What must be pointed out is that anyone who overclocks is assuming they
know more about cpu manufacturing, design and operations that intel's or
amd's best engineers. I beg to differ.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Richard Vickery]

I had problems with freeze-ups. after a few weeks after trying to remove
something, I re-installed F17 and haven't had a freeze-up since. I wish  I
knew what I needed to stop, but one cannot give the top command after a
freeze.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 06/18/2012 06:19 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
>
>> Yes, true, if you are doing it wrong. The CPU is perfectly stable at
>> this voltage, hence why I wanted to know if other components could be
>> involved.
>>
>
> 
>
> Back when I was doing tech support, I knew a tech who was running NT 4 and
> insisted that it was perfectly stable.  Of course, he kept a copy of the
> latest service pack on his desktop, and ran it once a month because if he
> didn't his system started crashing.  But it was perfectly stable.
>
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Re: Fedora 17 Xorg crash

[Dusty Mabe]

A few more pieces of information:



[root@macbook log]# uname -a
Linux macbook.raleigh 3.4.0-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 06:35:17
UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[root@macbook log]#
[root@macbook log]# rpm -qa | grep -i xorg | sort
xorg-x11-drv-ast-0.93.9-6.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.14.4-6.20120602git930760942.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.3.2-19.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.3.5-4.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.7.0-2.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.4.2-8.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.19.0-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.4.13-19.20120104git9223c44a7.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-35.20120306gitf5d1cd2.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.906-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.22-0.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.6.1-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.3.0-15.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.8.0-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-vmware-12.0.2-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-void-1.4.0-8.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-wacom-0.14.0-2.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-font-utils-7.5-7.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-common-1.12.2-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-utils-7.5-12.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xephyr-1.12.2-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.12.2-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xvfb-1.12.2-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-utils-7.5-6.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.7-1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-xinit-1.3.2-5.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.5-6.fc17.x86_64




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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Dusty Mabe  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I experience a crash of my freshly installed F17 system a few times a
> day. The bug seems to happen in Xorg as when this "crash" occurs I can
> still ssh to my system and browse around, but I can not do anything
> from the console (VGA) of the machine. I can't even switch to another
> virtual terminal.
>
>
> If I run strace on Xorg I get the following spewed out to the screen:
>
> ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)    = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
> restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
> --- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
> rt_sigreturn()                          = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
> ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)    = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
> restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
> --- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
> rt_sigreturn()                          = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
> ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)    = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
> restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
> --- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
> rt_sigreturn()
>
>
> The Xorg log shows me this:
>
> [  1673.019] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  1000 events have been dropped.
> [  1673.019] [mi] No further overflow reports will be reported until
> the clog is cleared.
> [  1673.019]
> [  1673.020] Backtrace:
> [  1673.020] 0: /usr/bin/Xorg (xorg_backtrace+0x36) [0x4650a6]
> [  1673.020] 1: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x48062) [0x448062]
> [  1673.020] 2: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
> (0x7fc6472be000+0x60e4) [0x7fc6472c40e4]
> [  1673.020] 3: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x80557) [0x480557]
> [  1673.020] 4: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0xa4730) [0x4a4730]
> [  1673.020] 5: /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x3937c0+0xefe0) [0x3937c0efe0]
> [  1673.021] 6: /lib64/libc.so.6 (ioctl+0x7) [0x39378ea617]
> [  1673.021] 7: /lib64/libdrm.so.2 (drmIoctl+0x28) [0x394fc03548]
> [  1673.021] 8: /lib64/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x1b) [0x394fc0577b]
> [  1673.021] 9: /lib64/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (0x7fc64a73c000+0x3085)
> [0x7fc64a73f085]
> [  1673.021] 10: /lib64/libdrm_nouveau.so.1
> (nouveau_bo_map_range+0x103) [0x7fc64a73f6b3]
> [  1673.021] 11: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
> (0x7fc64a942000+0x6768) [0x7fc64a948768]
> [  1673.021] 12: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
> (0x7fc649cf+0x5a7b) [0x7fc649cf5a7b]
> [  1673.021] 13: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
> (0x7fc649cf+0x7f30) [0x7fc649cf7f30]
> [  1673.021] 14: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
> (0x7fc649cf+0x104e2) [0x7fc649d004e2]
> [  1673.021] 15: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
> (0x7fc649cf+0x8bfe) [0x7fc649cf8bfe]
> [  1673.022] 16: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x1050f2) [0x5050f2]
> [  1673.022] 17: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x31053) [0x431053]
> [  1673.022] 18: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x3444a) [0x43444a]
> [  1673.022] 19: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x23485) [0x423485]
> [  1673.022] 20: /lib64/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x3937821735]
> [  1673.023] 21: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x2375d) [0x42375d]
> [  1673.023]
>
>
>
> I have found a similar bug to this from Fedora 16:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754674 . The bug i am
> experiencing behaves very similarly.
>
>
> I also found https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753703 which
> talks about the EQ overflowing.
>
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this? Is this known and already fixed?
> Should I write a bug?
>
>
> Thank you for your help!
> Dusty Mabe
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Fedora 17 Xorg crash

[Dusty Mabe]

Hi Everyone,

I experience a crash of my freshly installed F17 system a few times a
day. The bug seems to happen in Xorg as when this "crash" occurs I can
still ssh to my system and browse around, but I can not do anything
from the console (VGA) of the machine. I can't even switch to another
virtual terminal.


If I run strace on Xorg I get the following spewed out to the screen:

ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)= ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
--- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
rt_sigreturn()  = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)= ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
--- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
rt_sigreturn()  = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
ioctl(8, 0x40086482, 0x7fff11ac3b00)= ? ERESTARTSYS (To be
restarted if SA_RESTART is set)
--- SIGALRM {si_signo=SIGALRM, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
rt_sigreturn()


The Xorg log shows me this:

[  1673.019] [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  1000 events have been dropped.
[  1673.019] [mi] No further overflow reports will be reported until
the clog is cleared.
[  1673.019]
[  1673.020] Backtrace:
[  1673.020] 0: /usr/bin/Xorg (xorg_backtrace+0x36) [0x4650a6]
[  1673.020] 1: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x48062) [0x448062]
[  1673.020] 2: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
(0x7fc6472be000+0x60e4) [0x7fc6472c40e4]
[  1673.020] 3: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x80557) [0x480557]
[  1673.020] 4: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0xa4730) [0x4a4730]
[  1673.020] 5: /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x3937c0+0xefe0) [0x3937c0efe0]
[  1673.021] 6: /lib64/libc.so.6 (ioctl+0x7) [0x39378ea617]
[  1673.021] 7: /lib64/libdrm.so.2 (drmIoctl+0x28) [0x394fc03548]
[  1673.021] 8: /lib64/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x1b) [0x394fc0577b]
[  1673.021] 9: /lib64/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (0x7fc64a73c000+0x3085)
[0x7fc64a73f085]
[  1673.021] 10: /lib64/libdrm_nouveau.so.1
(nouveau_bo_map_range+0x103) [0x7fc64a73f6b3]
[  1673.021] 11: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
(0x7fc64a942000+0x6768) [0x7fc64a948768]
[  1673.021] 12: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
(0x7fc649cf+0x5a7b) [0x7fc649cf5a7b]
[  1673.021] 13: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
(0x7fc649cf+0x7f30) [0x7fc649cf7f30]
[  1673.021] 14: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
(0x7fc649cf+0x104e2) [0x7fc649d004e2]
[  1673.021] 15: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libexa.so
(0x7fc649cf+0x8bfe) [0x7fc649cf8bfe]
[  1673.022] 16: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x1050f2) [0x5050f2]
[  1673.022] 17: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x31053) [0x431053]
[  1673.022] 18: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x3444a) [0x43444a]
[  1673.022] 19: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x23485) [0x423485]
[  1673.022] 20: /lib64/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x3937821735]
[  1673.023] 21: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x40+0x2375d) [0x42375d]
[  1673.023]



I have found a similar bug to this from Fedora 16:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754674 . The bug i am
experiencing behaves very similarly.


I also found https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753703 which
talks about the EQ overflowing.


Is anyone else experiencing this? Is this known and already fixed?
Should I write a bug?


Thank you for your help!
Dusty Mabe
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Re: Problems with update -- redhat-lsb conflicts

[Jayson Rowe]

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:
> Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to be updated, but can't
> because of a an error, to wit:
>> Protected multilib versions: redhat-lsb-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64 != 
>> redhat-lsb-4.0-11.fc17.i686
> What's going on?  Can I fix it, or must I wait on the repo managers?  If
> the repo managers, when will a fix be available?

I'm still seeing this - should I remove/re-install Chrome as someone
suggested, or just wait it out?

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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Roger]

On 19/06/12 03:13, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:06:49 -0430,
  Dokuro  wrote:


I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...



My impression is that Intel does not produce graphics cards as 
powerful as nVidia and AMD currently.


I'm using a, what was 3 years a go, high end Geforce 6800gts video card 
with Blender no prolems with either the nvidia 173 driver on Ubuntu or 
the Nouveau driver in Fedora 16 and have no problems.
My daughter has nvidia card in her new Toshiba laptop running Ubuntu 
12.04 , nvidia driver and  is Blender teacher, she has no problems.


 No one in my family uses AMD because everyone has had problems when 
using Blender or high end 2d graphics manipulation, RAW files.
The on the mother board Intel video driver is pretty useless for medium 
to high end 2d graphics and won't handle any 3d graphics for more than a 
few minutes.


Roger


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Re: Skype 4 and F17

[Steven Stern]

On 06/18/2012 03:41 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> Anyone have the new Skype 4.0.0.7 for Fedora working with F17?  For me,
> it starts, but just waits forever while trying to log in.  The old
> version 2.2.0.35 works fine.
> 
> TIA.
> 
I just installed in and it works fine.

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Re: Skype 4 and F17

[Martin Airs]

On Monday 18 Jun 2012 16:41:56 Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> Anyone have the new Skype 4.0.0.7 for Fedora working with F17?  For me,
> it starts, but just waits forever while trying to log in.  The old
> version 2.2.0.35 works fine.
> 
> TIA.
> -- 
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> Clemson University Math Sciences
> mjs AT clemson DOT edu
> 

It works here, I have F17  X86_64 KDE 4.8.90

I downloaded the F16 i386 rpm from the site and yum installed it, it does take 
a little while to start tho, it sits there for maybe a minute, but then when 
it does startup its already logged in.

maybe it will log in if you wait long enough, mines set to autologin, so that 
might be what the wait is all about, I'm not sure

Martin


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Skype 4 and F17

[Matthew Saltzman]

Anyone have the new Skype 4.0.0.7 for Fedora working with F17?  For me,
it starts, but just waits forever while trying to log in.  The old
version 2.2.0.35 works fine.

TIA.
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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Edward M]

On 06/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jim wrote:

All the setting for firewall, Selinux  and printer driver are setup.

If you send a print job it will tell you "Print job successfully sent".

I was running the debug for Cups and it said in there that it could 
not find a Printer


   I think samsung gave up on that model.
   try installing splix driver from yum.

   splix driver site( it works on 3160 may work on 3170)
   http://splix.ap2c.org/

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Re: Grub Error - Boot failure

[Arthur Dent]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/18/2012 12:32 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> > Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting and hopfully fixing this
> > without hosing my system?
> 
> Two questions: first, can you boot into an earlier kernel?  Second, if 
> you can't, do you have access to a LiveCD?  (Doesn't even have to be 
> Fedora; just something that can get you to a working system.)

Well this is weird!

I was thinking along the same lines. I found a F14 liveCD and that
booted just fine. Had a little poke around the disks using the disk
utility (which reported both hard drives as healthy) and then decided to
try the original F16 installation disk (not a liveCD) as a rescue disk.
Rescue mode failed with a "Fatal error" (Sorry I didn't write it down)
but I just saw a strange error about mounting one of the other
partitions on the disk (I have this partition mounted from fstab). So I
went back to the liveCD, and edited the fstab, commenting out the
relevant entry and...
The system boots fine!
(Here's the weird bit) I then uncommented the same line (so it once
again tries to mount the partition) and...
It still works fine!

So what gives?

Answering your first question - no I could not boot into an earlier
kernel. The grub failure seemed to be before that choice even came up -
so why would grub be worried about a partition mounted from fstab which
is surely much later in the boot process?

Why do I have a working system again simply by changing fstab and then
changing it back again?

I have a working system and that's the main thing - but if anyone can
shed any light as to what went wrong I would be very grateful.

Joe, thanks for your help.

Thanks again to all.

Mark



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Re: Grub Error - Boot failure

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 12:32 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:

Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting and hopfully fixing this
without hosing my system?


Two questions: first, can you boot into an earlier kernel?  Second, if 
you can't, do you have access to a LiveCD?  (Doesn't even have to be 
Fedora; just something that can get you to a working system.)

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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 03:30 PM, Edward M wrote:

On 06/18/2012 12:11 PM, Jim wrote:
This Samsung driver is the latest for the CLX-3170 Series and it 
works on another box on the same AP Network.


   okay,i  will take a while guess because i do not know what you have 
you cofigured and tried out. so, have you tried  configuring that 
system firewall, selinux; they are probably blocking detection.:-)



All the setting for firewall, Selinux  and printer driver are setup.

If you send a print job it will tell you "Print job successfully sent".

I was running the debug for Cups and it said in there that it could not 
find a Printer


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Grub Error - Boot failure

[Arthur Dent]

Hello All,

My F16 box which has given me years of faithful service has unexpectedly
failed to boot. I made no configuration changes or updates yesterday and
the system worked fine. Today the system fails to boot with the error:

error: no such device: 53d08854-7c6d-49dc-aeec-6a5d3e462682.

Entering rescue mode...

Grub>

The little Googling I have been able to do on my phone brings up examples
of that error when people have upgraded or attempted to upgrade over an
existing system. Mine has come out of the blue to a working system.

I am very nervous of the risk of causing more damage by incautious
tinkering (my usual method of trying to fix problems) so I thought I would
ask here before I tried anything.

Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting and hopfully fixing this
without hosing my system?

Thanks in advance

Mark


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 03:02 PM, Edward M wrote:

On 06/18/2012 11:40 AM, Jim wrote:

FOUND PROBLEM !!
the Cups Server is not seeing/finding the Printer Samsung CLX-3170.
The command lpoptions -d  Samsung-CLX-3170   , would that help cups 
server to see printer ?


   sounds like a driver problem?
   Not sure if linux itself has the needed driver.
   I think it requries the linux unified driver driver from samsung 
site or from another repo?


http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/CLX-3175FW/XAA



 I forgot to tell you Edward M the print driver under the location you 
sent me is a driver that is from 2009 and it worked in Fedora up to 
Fedora 15 and after that F16 on it wouldn't.


If you would go to Samsung site and download the driver for the new 
CLX-3185, there you would also find a 2012 Version for the CLX-3170 Series.


I kind of think that Samsung hasn't got their Driver Download Site up to 
date. What do you think ?


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Edward M]

On 06/18/2012 12:11 PM, Jim wrote:
This Samsung driver is the latest for the CLX-3170 Series and it works 
on another box on the same AP Network.


   okay,i  will take a while guess because i do not know what you have 
you cofigured and tried out. so, have you tried  configuring that system 
firewall, selinux; they are probably blocking detection.:-)


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Re: arydshln and biblatex on F17

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 13:08 -0400, Ranjan Maitra wrote: 
> Thanks, Matthew! Sorry I have forgotten, how do I get it into yum such
> that this is automagically updated?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive#TeX_Live_2012_2

> Is there no chance that this will come to Fedora repos? I seem to think
> that it was supposed to be included a good two years ago!

There is every chance it will be included, but clearing up legal issues
has taken much longer than originally anticipated.  It's currently
targeted for F18.

> 
> Many thanks and best wishes,
> Ranjan
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:57:48 -0400 Matthew Saltzman 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 17:25 -0400, Ranjan Maitra wrote: 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have been trying to hunt these two CTAN packages for Fedora 17 and
> > > have so far drawn a blank. Are rpms for these available somewhere? 
> > 
> > The whole TeXLive 2012 (or close to it) is available at
> > http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2012/packages.fc17/  It completely
> > replaces the TeXLive 2007 subsystem that still ships with Fedora.
> > 
> > Both those packages are there.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Ranjan
> > > 
> > 
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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 03:02 PM, Edward M wrote:

On 06/18/2012 11:40 AM, Jim wrote:

FOUND PROBLEM !!
the Cups Server is not seeing/finding the Printer Samsung CLX-3170.
The command lpoptions -d  Samsung-CLX-3170   , would that help cups 
server to see printer ?


   sounds like a driver problem?
   Not sure if linux itself has the needed driver.
   I think it requries the linux unified driver driver from samsung 
site or from another repo?


http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/CLX-3175FW/XAA



The problem is Cups Server can't find printer.  how would you tell Cups 
Server what or howto find printer ?


This Samsung driver is the latest for the CLX-3170 Series and it works 
on another box on the same AP Network.


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Edward M]

On 06/18/2012 11:40 AM, Jim wrote:

FOUND PROBLEM !!
the Cups Server is not seeing/finding the Printer Samsung CLX-3170.
The command lpoptions -d  Samsung-CLX-3170 , would that help cups 
server to see printer ?


   sounds like a driver problem?
   Not sure if linux itself has the needed driver.
   I think it requries the linux unified driver driver from samsung 
site or from another repo?


  http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/CLX-3175FW/XAA

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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 09:31 AM, Jim wrote:

On 06/18/2012 08:27 AM, Jim wrote:

On 06/18/2012 05:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim wrote:

F17/Kde   Fresh Install and Updated.

I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two other
F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.

>From the troubleshoot log it looks like you fixed the "server not
sharing printers" part already.  Unfortunately the debug log seems to
have been truncated for some reason so it's difficult to say what went
wrong, although it doesn't look like CUPS thinks anything went wrong at
all (no errors in printer-state-reasons or printer-state-message).

But are the other systems also using "lpd" to send the job?  Do they
have the same updates applied?  It's probably just a case of comparing
the working systems with the failing system more and more closely until
you find what's different.

Tim.
*/






The other systems are running tne same lpd:// setup.





Can someone tell me what this line means in the debug file 
troubleshoot.txt;


'E [16/Jun/2012:23:29:07 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for 
Samsung CLX-3170 @ BigOne.hsd1.in.comcast.net: -2'],



Would it prevent a print job from printing ?




FOUND PROBLEM !!

the Cups Server is not seeing/finding the Printer Samsung CLX-3170.

The command lpoptions -d  Samsung-CLX-3170   , would that help cups 
server to see printer ?


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unboot vs my DVD burner

[Michael Hennebry]

I tried to burn a F17 install DVD and thought that I had failed.
The result would not mount and if I asked right I was told no medium in drive.
Forgetting it was there, I did a reboot.
The BIOS found it with apparently no trouble.
Anaconda started, I pushed the eject button and then the reset button.
The same drive can read a DVD written by a stand-alone burner
and a DVD previously written by the same burner.
Any idea what gives or what I should look for?

[hennebry@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Nov 23 
13:39:51 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[hennebry@localhost ~]$
The motherboard is a D865GBF.
The burner is a Toshiba SDR5112.

Yes, I know F14 is EOL.
I've managed to install F16 and F17,
but I haven't gotten either of them to work.
That is why I mentioned the motherboard without prompting.

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Re: Fedora 17

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 10:17 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:

  I can just imagine the arguments
about how to describe GNOME 3


Gnome 3 is a bleeding-edge desktop environment that's currently taking 
its users down a bold, new, avant-guard path.  If you like 
experimenting, or you're looking for a new approach to the desktop, 
Gnome may be just the thing for you.


How's that?
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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

I'm getting indications thaat Printer may not connected to computer or 
Server


How do I troubleshoot as to wether Printer is connected to computer or 
cups server ?


I can ping 192.168.1.127 and I don't get any packet lose.

If I put 192.168.1 127 in url of Browser it takes me to the Printer 
Setting Menu.


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Re: Fedora 17

[Andrew Haley]

On 06/18/2012 06:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> Am 18.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Andrew Haley:
>> Fedora already did.  No-one is saying that your complaints are not
>> justified, just that they're in the wrong place.  Fedora will continue
>> to provide alternatives to GNOME for people who don't like it.  In
>> other words, The only thing that Fedora can do about GNOME 3 is
>> already being done.
> 
> WTF - there is much more that can be done
> 
> * tell them that feodra is unhappy with upstream
> * explain them why

So do that, then.

> * explain them that if the issues are not solved GNOME is no longer default

But there is not agreement among all Fedora developers about which way
to go, and nor is there likely to be.  Fedora is all about freedom and
choice.

>> In a way it's a shame that there has to be a default, but a new user
>> won't be able sensibly to answer the "GNOME, KDE, XFCE?" question
> 
> 1. this is untrue - show them a screenshot and short description

For small values of "sensible".  I can just imagine the arguments
about how to describe GNOME 3.  I'm not sure that "a steaming pile of
foetid dingo's kidneys", as some people would describe GNOME 3, would
do it.  :-)

> 2. if you really need a default take a sane one and not GNOME3

See above: there is not agreement among all Fedora developers.

Look, if you found a bug in GCC and complained here we'd tell you
to forward the report to GCC developers.  How is GNOME any different?

Andrew.
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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:06:49 -0430,
  Dokuro  wrote:


I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...



My impression is that Intel does not produce graphics cards as powerful 
as nVidia and AMD currently.

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Re: arydshln and biblatex on F17

[Ranjan Maitra]

Thanks, Matthew! Sorry I have forgotten, how do I get it into yum such
that this is automagically updated?

Is there no chance that this will come to Fedora repos? I seem to think
that it was supposed to be included a good two years ago!

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan



On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:57:48 -0400 Matthew Saltzman 
wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 17:25 -0400, Ranjan Maitra wrote: 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have been trying to hunt these two CTAN packages for Fedora 17 and
> > have so far drawn a blank. Are rpms for these available somewhere? 
> 
> The whole TeXLive 2012 (or close to it) is available at
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2012/packages.fc17/  It completely
> replaces the TeXLive 2007 subsystem that still ships with Fedora.
> 
> Both those packages are there.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Ranjan
> > 
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Re: Fedora 17

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Andrew Haley:
> Fedora already did.  No-one is saying that your complaints are not
> justified, just that they're in the wrong place.  Fedora will continue
> to provide alternatives to GNOME for people who don't like it.  In
> other words, The only thing that Fedora can do about GNOME 3 is
> already being done.

WTF - there is much more that can be done

* tell them that feodra is unhappy with upstream
* explain them why
* explain them that if the issues are not solved GNOME is no longer default

> In a way it's a shame that there has to be a default, but a new user
> won't be able sensibly to answer the "GNOME, KDE, XFCE?" question

1. this is untrue - show them a screenshot and short description
2. if you really need a default take a sane one and not GNOME3





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Lockup issue

[Matthew Saltzman]

I have a Dell Latitude E6410 with nVidia graphics, using the nouveau
driver and the latest F17 kernel.  The display is set to use the docking
station monitor when it is available.

When I insert it the docking station, if it is powered up, the laptop
screen blanks and it locks up instantly.  If it is suspended, it locks
up a few seconds after resume.  Neither laptop nor external display ever
comes on.

I've tried the nvidia drivers, and they seem somewhat more reliable, but
they have some other issues (and, of course, I'd rather run open
drivers).  This was not an issue when I was running F15 and nvidia
drivers.

Any similar experiences?  Is this probably a driver bug or is it more
likely to be a kernel bug?
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Re: Fedora 17

[Andrew Haley]

On 06/18/2012 05:36 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 09:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: 
>> On 06/18/2012 06:24 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>>> If the review just focusses on the
>>> desktop environment, then at least you can assume that the distribution
>>> part was good.
>>
>> True.  You should, however, be clear just what's responsible for the 
>> issues you're complaining about.
> 
> Let me repeat, I know Fedora is not directly responsible for Gnome 3.
> However, if it clear that there are aspects of the default DE supplied
> with a Fedora product that are ill-designed I would expect that Fedora
> would have words with Gnome about what they are doing. It has more clout
> then we do. When the default DE has aspects they are prima faca evidence
> that the GNOME developers were not thinking clearly in including them
> Gnome should be given an ultimatum that they straighten things out or
> Fedora will find another DE to supply to its users.

Fedora already did.  No-one is saying that your complaints are not
justified, just that they're in the wrong place.  Fedora will continue
to provide alternatives to GNOME for people who don't like it.  In
other words, The only thing that Fedora can do about GNOME 3 is
already being done.

In a way it's a shame that there has to be a default, but a new user
won't be able sensibly to answer the "GNOME, KDE, XFCE?" question.

Andrew.
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Re: Fedora 17

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.06.2012 18:50, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 06/18/2012 09:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> When the default DE has aspects they are prima faca evidence
>> that the GNOME developers were not thinking clearly in including them
>> Gnome should be given an ultimatum that they straighten things out or
>> Fedora will find another DE to supply to its users.
> 
> Yes, that might work, if (and only if) the Gnome devs care about having Gnome 
> be the default DE for Fedora.  Do you
> have any evidence that they give a rat's ass?

if they do not than this hsould be anough to throw
away it as default DE - what better reasons are need
to switch?



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Re: Fedora 17

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 09:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

When the default DE has aspects they are prima faca evidence
that the GNOME developers were not thinking clearly in including them
Gnome should be given an ultimatum that they straighten things out or
Fedora will find another DE to supply to its users.


Yes, that might work, if (and only if) the Gnome devs care about having 
Gnome be the default DE for Fedora.  Do you have any evidence that they 
give a rat's ass?

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Re: Fedora 17

[Aaron Konstam]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 09:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: 
> On 06/18/2012 06:24 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > If the review just focusses on the
> > desktop environment, then at least you can assume that the distribution
> > part was good.
> 
> True.  You should, however, be clear just what's responsible for the 
> issues you're complaining about.

Let me repeat, I know Fedora is not directly responsible for Gnome 3.
However, if it clear that there are aspects of the default DE supplied
with a Fedora product that are ill-designed I would expect that Fedora
would have words with Gnome about what they are doing. It has more clout
then we do. When the default DE has aspects they are prima faca evidence
that the GNOME developers were not thinking clearly in including them
Gnome should be given an ultimatum that they straighten things out or
Fedora will find another DE to supply to its users. As people keep
pointing out there are several DEs out there.
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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Ian Malone]

On 18 June 2012 10:39, Edward M  wrote:

>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/

Whatever the actual story (and I can believe Linus is annoyed with
nvidia), articles on the register usually need a very large dose of
salt.

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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Edward M]

On 06/18/2012 02:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

  tends to make your ahrwdare unuseable if nvidia decides calling
your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

there are no good reasons for binary drivers

  Ahh, now i fully understand why OpenBSD is also against this; 
companies can screw me over anytime they feel like.

   I am about to upgrade soon and  I will check the
  hardware i have selected, if any require binary drivers i will chage.:-)


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Re: Fedora 17

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 06:24 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:

If the review just focusses on the
desktop environment, then at least you can assume that the distribution
part was good.


True.  You should, however, be clear just what's responsible for the 
issues you're complaining about.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/18/2012 06:19 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:

Yes, true, if you are doing it wrong. The CPU is perfectly stable at
this voltage, hence why I wanted to know if other components could be
involved.




Back when I was doing tech support, I knew a tech who was running NT 4 
and insisted that it was perfectly stable.  Of course, he kept a copy of 
the latest service pack on his desktop, and ran it once a month because 
if he didn't his system started crashing.  But it was perfectly stable.



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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 05:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim wrote:

F17/Kde   Fresh Install and Updated.

I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two other
F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.

 From the troubleshoot log it looks like you fixed the "server not
sharing printers" part already.  Unfortunately the debug log seems to
have been truncated for some reason so it's difficult to say what went
wrong, although it doesn't look like CUPS thinks anything went wrong at
all (no errors in printer-state-reasons or printer-state-message).

But are the other systems also using "lpd" to send the job?  Do they
have the same updates applied?  It's probably just a case of comparing
the working systems with the failing system more and more closely until
you find what's different.

Tim.
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I just had ABRT just pop up with some errors about printer. Therte are 2.


1.system-config-printer/usr/bin/python 
/usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py file:/tmp/abrt.log




XDG_VTNR=1
KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
SSH_AGENT_PID=1187
XDG_SESSION_ID=1
DM_CONTROL=/var/run/xdmctl
HOSTNAME=BigOne
DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID=BigOne;1322176660;726421;1303_TIME90965341
SHELL=/bin/bash
XDG_MENU_PREFIX=kde4-
XDM_MANAGED=method=classic
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=8ab1d258de9cf8c5d4d35b57000d-1322089330.263155-203335830
HISTSIZE=1000
GTK2_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/home/mickey/.gtkrc-2.0:/home/mickey/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4:/home/mickey/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/mickey/.gtkrc:/home/mickey/.kde/share/config/gtkrc
GS_LIB=
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3
QTINC=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
USER=mickey
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-HLIuQAKL1151/agent.1151
SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1262,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1262
PATH=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mickey/.local/bin:/home/mickey/bin
DESKTOP_SESSION=default
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/mickey
PWD=/home/mickey/Documents
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1
KDE_SESSION_UID=1000
KDEDIRS=/usr
HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ksshaskpass
HOME=/home/mickey
XDG_SEAT=seat0
SHLVL=2
KDE_SESSION_VERSION=4
XCURSOR_THEME=default
LOGNAME=mickey
QTLIB=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-DuVoDmnuKn,guid=170c20b4e23fc713d40d96500024
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
'LESSOPEN=||/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s'
WINDOWPATH=1
DISPLAY=:0
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/mickey
QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/home/mickey/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/
XAUTHORITY=/tmp/kde-mickey/xauth-1000-_0




2.  tracker  Process /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs was killed by 
signal 5 (SIGTRAP)  file: log-printer



XDG_VTNR=1
XDG_SESSION_ID=1
SSH_AGENT_PID=1181
HOSTNAME=BigOne
DM_CONTROL=/var/run/xdmctl
XDG_MENU_PREFIX=kde4-
SHELL=/bin/bash
HISTSIZE=1000
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=8ab1d258de9cf8c5d4d35b57000d-1321910810.950251-934590511
XDM_MANAGED=method=classic
GTK2_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/home/mickey/.gtkrc-2.0:/home/mickey/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4:/home/mickey/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
GS_LIB=
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3
QTINC=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
USER=mickey
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-OuTBzZpT1145/agent.1145
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/mickey
DESKTOP_SESSION=default
PATH=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mickey/.local/bin:/home/mickey/bin
PWD=/home/mickey
KDE_SESSION_UID=1000
KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
KDEDIRS=/usr
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ksshaskpass
HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
SHLVL=2
XDG_SEAT=seat0
HOME=/home/mickey
KDE_SESSION_VERSION=4
LOGNAME=mickey
QTLIB=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-gvcB8r3SO4,guid=37f65ff69380ae6f1f4638340059
'LESSOPEN=||/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s'
WINDOWPATH=1
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/mickey
DISPLAY=:0
QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/home/mickey/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/
XAUTHORITY=/tmp/kde-mickey/xauth-1000-_0
_=/usr/libexec/kde4/start_kdeinit_wrapper
KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1240,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1240
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/mickey/.gtkrc:/home/mickey/.kde/share/config/gtkrc
XCURSOR_THEME=default




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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Dokuro]

Bruno Wolff wrote:
> What are you expecting out of your graphics card? Are you running graphics
> intense games, CUDA, off-line rendering? If you aren't using it for stuff
> that needs a powerful video card, any recent card should be good enough.
>
> I am finding the intel embedded driver support the most reliable (sumwars
> doesn't crash) with free drivers right now, but I have pretty old graphics
> hardware.
>

I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...

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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:39:01 -0700,
  Edward M  wrote:


After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a 
resentment way.  made me wonder if
nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should  
look into either amd,intel graphics instead or

he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?


What are you expecting out of your graphics card? Are you running graphics 
intense games, CUDA, off-line rendering? If you aren't using it for stuff 
that needs a powerful video card, any recent card should be good enough.


I am finding the intel embedded driver support the most reliable (sumwars 
doesn't crash) with free drivers right now, but I have pretty old graphics 
hardware.

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Re: Fedora 17, SELinux & GoogleTalkPlugin

[Daniel J Walsh]

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On 06/18/2012 11:05 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 06/16/2012 05:14 AM, Stevo Slavić wrote:
>> Hello Fedora community,
> 
>> I've just upgraded Fedora 16 to 17 using PreUpgrade. After second restart
>> I was welcomed by SELinux alert (see [1] for alert details). This bug, 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704591 , seems related but
>> it's labelled as fixed in older version of selinux-policy. Maybe
>> regression issue? Should I reopen bug or report another one? Is it a bug
>> at all - I'm not sure whether "GoogleTalkPlugin should be allowed getattr
>> access on the gpmctl sock_file by default".
> 
>> Kind regards, Stevo.
> 
> 
> 
>> [1] SELinux alert details
> 
>> SELinux is preventing /opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin from
>> getattr access on the sock_file /dev/gpmctl.
> 
>> *  Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests 
>> ***
> 
>> If you believe that GoogleTalkPlugin should be allowed getattr access on 
>> the gpmctl sock_file by default. Then you should report this as a bug.
>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Do allow
>> this access for now by executing: # grep GoogleTalkPlugi 
>> /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp
> 
>> Additional Information: Source Context 
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target
>> Context system_u:object_r:gpmctl_t:s0 Target Objects
>> /dev/gpmctl [ sock_file ] SourceGoogleTalkPlugi
>> Source Path /opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin Port  Host
>> sslavic Source RPM Packages google-talkplugin-2.9.10.0-1.x86_64 Target
>> RPM Packages Policy RPM selinux-policy-3.10.0-128.fc17.noarch Selinux
>> Enabled   True Policy Type   targeted
>> Enforcing Mode Enforcing Host Name sslavic Platform 
>> Linux sslavic 3.4.0-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 06:35:17 UTC 2012
>> x86_64 x86_64 Alert Count   4 First Seen
>> Sat 16 Jun 2012 10:36:53 AM CEST Last Seen Sat 16 Jun
>> 2012 10:36:54 AM CEST Local ID c1545ce3-f86b-4e20-b078-8db9db556a52
> 
>> Raw Audit Messages type=AVC msg=audit(1339835814.939:165): avc:  denied
>> { getattr } for  pid=8507 comm="GoogleTalkPlugi" path="/dev/gpmctl" 
>> dev="devtmpfs" ino=15878 
>> scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
>> tcontext=system_u:object_r:gpmctl_t:s0 tclass=sock_file
> 
> 
>> type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1339835814.939:165): arch=x86_64 syscall=stat 
>> success=no exit=EACCES a0=23fc998 a1=23fd580 a2=23fd580 a3=24 items=0 
>> ppid=1 pid=8507 auid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000 euid=1000 suid=1000
>> fsuid=1000 egid=1000 sgid=1000 fsgid=1000 tty=(none) ses=2
>> comm=GoogleTalkPlugi exe=/opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin 
>> subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> key=(null)
> 
>> Hash: GoogleTalkPlugi,mozilla_plugin_t,gpmctl_t,sock_file,getattr
> 
>> audit2allowunable to open /sys/fs/selinux/policy:  Permission denied
> 
> 
>> audit2allow -Runable to open /sys/fs/selinux/policy:  Permission denied
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This should be dontaudited and can be safely ignored,  Basically the plugin
> is doing an ls -l /dev, and this is generating the AVC.  GoolgeTalkPlugin
> has no need to interact with gpmctl.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


I just added a dontaudit line.
Fixed in selinux-policy-3.10.0-132.fc17
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Re: Fedora 17, SELinux & GoogleTalkPlugin

[Daniel J Walsh]

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On 06/16/2012 05:14 AM, Stevo Slavić wrote:
> Hello Fedora community,
> 
> I've just upgraded Fedora 16 to 17 using PreUpgrade. After second restart I
> was welcomed by SELinux alert (see [1] for alert details). This bug,
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704591 , seems related but it's
> labelled as fixed in older version of selinux-policy. Maybe regression 
> issue? Should I reopen bug or report another one? Is it a bug at all - I'm
> not sure whether "GoogleTalkPlugin should be allowed getattr access on the
> gpmctl sock_file by default".
> 
> Kind regards, Stevo.
> 
> 
> 
> [1] SELinux alert details
> 
> SELinux is preventing /opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin from getattr 
> access on the sock_file /dev/gpmctl.
> 
> *  Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests
> ***
> 
> If you believe that GoogleTalkPlugin should be allowed getattr access on
> the gpmctl sock_file by default. Then you should report this as a bug. You
> can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Do allow this
> access for now by executing: # grep GoogleTalkPlugi
> /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp
> 
> Additional Information: Source Context
> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target Context
> system_u:object_r:gpmctl_t:s0 Target Objects/dev/gpmctl [
> sock_file ] SourceGoogleTalkPlugi Source Path
> /opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin Port
>  Host  sslavic Source RPM Packages
> google-talkplugin-2.9.10.0-1.x86_64 Target RPM Packages Policy RPM
> selinux-policy-3.10.0-128.fc17.noarch Selinux Enabled   True 
> Policy Type   targeted Enforcing Mode
> Enforcing Host Name sslavic Platform
> Linux sslavic 3.4.0-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 06:35:17 UTC 2012 x86_64
> x86_64 Alert Count   4 First SeenSat 16
> Jun 2012 10:36:53 AM CEST Last Seen Sat 16 Jun 2012
> 10:36:54 AM CEST Local ID
> c1545ce3-f86b-4e20-b078-8db9db556a52
> 
> Raw Audit Messages type=AVC msg=audit(1339835814.939:165): avc:  denied  {
> getattr } for  pid=8507 comm="GoogleTalkPlugi" path="/dev/gpmctl"
> dev="devtmpfs" ino=15878 
> scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:gpmctl_t:s0 tclass=sock_file
> 
> 
> type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1339835814.939:165): arch=x86_64 syscall=stat
> success=no exit=EACCES a0=23fc998 a1=23fd580 a2=23fd580 a3=24 items=0
> ppid=1 pid=8507 auid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000 euid=1000 suid=1000 fsuid=1000
> egid=1000 sgid=1000 fsgid=1000 tty=(none) ses=2 comm=GoogleTalkPlugi 
> exe=/opt/google/talkplugin/GoogleTalkPlugin 
> subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> Hash: GoogleTalkPlugi,mozilla_plugin_t,gpmctl_t,sock_file,getattr
> 
> audit2allowunable to open /sys/fs/selinux/policy:  Permission denied
> 
> 
> audit2allow -Runable to open /sys/fs/selinux/policy:  Permission denied
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


This should be dontaudited and can be safely ignored,  Basically the plugin is
doing an ls -l /dev, and this is generating the AVC.  GoolgeTalkPlugin has no
need to interact with gpmctl.




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Re: Phusion Passenger on selinux

[Daniel J Walsh]

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On 06/15/2012 05:00 PM, Pete Stieber wrote:
> 
> Is it active?  Should it be helping me with my non-yum installed version
> of passenger?
First update to
selinux-policy-3.10.0-131.fc17

Then please send me a compresses audit.log.

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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 10:03 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 09:31 -0400, Jim wrote:


Can someone tell me what this line means in the debug file
troubleshoot.txt;

'E [16/Jun/2012:23:29:07 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for
Samsung CLX-3170 @ BigOne.hsd1.in.comcast.net: -2'],


Would it prevent a print job from printing ?

It's just a problem advertising that queue using DNS-SD to other people
on the network.  No, it won't prevent the job from printing.

Tim.
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Tim, I checked the /etc/printers.conf in a working box and the box that 
won't print asnd they are identical .


the lpd:\\192.168.1.127/PASSTHRU is the same on both working, non 
working boxes.


I can ping 192.168.1.127 on non working box and I get no packets lost.

I even did a fresh reinstall to see if that was the problem, and I get 
the  same no print problem.


There has to be a hardware difference in this non-working  HP box I'm using.

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Re: Installing smplayer2

[Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor]

On 06/18/2012 06:54 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:

Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:


Is there any RPM for smplayer 2?


I don't know an smplayer2 - I only know of smplayer 0.8.0... Did you 
mean that one?


There isn't afaik. I had never heard of it, but I liked what I saw 
when you mailed about it. So I had a look. The text in the 
"install.txt" in the download from the smplayer website is not 
perfectly clear.
Before following the instructions, be sure to install qt-devel ( # yum 
install qt-devel ) and that once the rpmbuild is done, you look 
carefully in the terminal output for where it's parked the rpm.
In case that's all too confusing for you, I've managed to install it 
from the rpm my machine generated. I would think it would be possible 
for you to install it with my rpm.


I have temporarily parked it here: 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138099/smplayer-0.8.0-rvm.i386.rpm


Let me know when you have it, and if it's worked. I'll also look into 
sticking this in rpm fusion, but have patience. I'm a busy man.



Thanks man.

I'll look into it when I'm free :-) Thanks for your effort :)

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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Tim Waugh]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 09:31 -0400, Jim wrote:

> Can someone tell me what this line means in the debug file
> troubleshoot.txt;
> 
> 'E [16/Jun/2012:23:29:07 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for
> Samsung CLX-3170 @ BigOne.hsd1.in.comcast.net: -2'],
> 
> 
> Would it prevent a print job from printing ?

It's just a problem advertising that queue using DNS-SD to other people
on the network.  No, it won't prevent the job from printing.

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Re: Installing smplayer2

[Germán A. Racca]

On 06/18/2012 09:54 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:

Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:


Is there any RPM for smplayer 2?


I don't know an smplayer2 - I only know of smplayer 0.8.0... Did you
mean that one?

There isn't afaik. I had never heard of it, but I liked what I saw when
you mailed about it. So I had a look. The text in the "install.txt" in
the download from the smplayer website is not perfectly clear.
Before following the instructions, be sure to install qt-devel ( # yum
install qt-devel ) and that once the rpmbuild is done, you look
carefully in the terminal output for where it's parked the rpm.
In case that's all too confusing for you, I've managed to install it
from the rpm my machine generated. I would think it would be possible
for you to install it with my rpm.

I have temporarily parked it here:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138099/smplayer-0.8.0-rvm.i386.rpm

Let me know when you have it, and if it's worked. I'll also look into
sticking this in rpm fusion, but have patience. I'm a busy man.



There is no need to install that rpm because it is already in rpmfusion 
repos, so you don't need to compile anything. The OP is talking about 
smplayer2: http://www.mplayer2.org/


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 08:27 AM, Jim wrote:

On 06/18/2012 05:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim wrote:

F17/Kde   Fresh Install and Updated.

I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two other
F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.

>From the troubleshoot log it looks like you fixed the "server not
sharing printers" part already.  Unfortunately the debug log seems to
have been truncated for some reason so it's difficult to say what went
wrong, although it doesn't look like CUPS thinks anything went wrong at
all (no errors in printer-state-reasons or printer-state-message).

But are the other systems also using "lpd" to send the job?  Do they
have the same updates applied?  It's probably just a case of comparing
the working systems with the failing system more and more closely until
you find what's different.

Tim.
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The other systems are running tne same lpd:// setup.





Can someone tell me what this line means in the debug file troubleshoot.txt;

'E [16/Jun/2012:23:29:07 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for Samsung 
CLX-3170 @ BigOne.hsd1.in.comcast.net: -2'],



Would it prevent a print job from printing ?

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Re: NFSv4

[Ed Greshko]

Ahh

One thing that just popped into my mind.  Again, recall that NIS is not in 
my
memory.

When you run NIS do you have user names and groups and such defined only in NIS
databases?  I mean, isn't the passwd files basically where only system users 
are defined?

What were to happen if you had a situation where a uid was defined in passwd 
and in
the NIS maps and a conflict existed?

Possible?
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Re: Fedora 17

[Olav Vitters]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 02:00:50PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> You list a number of things you personally dislike, but Fedora 17
> isn't responsible for any of them.  All of them are part of Gnome 3,
> just one of the many desktop environments that you can use with
> Fedora.  This is not, believe me, to dismiss your complaints, merely
> to point out that you're attributing them to the wrong cause.

A review usually focusses on the default desktop environment, whatever
that is (at least the ones I read). If the review just focusses on the
desktop environment, then at least you can assume that the distribution
part was good.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Christopher Svanefalk]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

>
>
> Am 18.06.2012 12:44, schrieb agraham:
> >> Reindl - no offense, but do you know anything at all about overclocking?
> >> Let alone how suitable the 3930K is for it, and how well it scales? If
> not,
> >> there are several helpful resources you can consult, I recommend this
> one:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers
>
> i know enough about IT at all to know that it is just dumb to
> run hardware outside the SPECs and if doing so wonder about
> stability issues
>

...even when the hardware is MEANT to be overclocked?


>
> modern CPUs are most of the time in energy saving mode
> why? because there is no need to run alwas at full speed
>

My cpu runs under 100% load 24/7, crunching simulations for the
Folding@Homeproject, so for me the extra cycles are significant.


>
> having system freezes after and while overclocking and wonder about is
> strange
>

Yes, true, if you are doing it wrong. The CPU is perfectly stable at this
voltage, hence why I wanted to know if other components could be involved.

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Re: NFSv4

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/2012 08:57 PM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
>> Well that all looks good. I know there have been changes to nfs-utils. One 
>> change
>> involved the idmap service and no longer needing to run it on the client. 
>> But I
>> just wrote a bugzilla against it for random mounts failing at boot time. 
>> Since I
>> don't see mapping problems I'd be more suspect of NIS.
>>
>>
> But with NFSv4 as NFSv3 looks and works fine on F17. 

Yes...  But, and this is where I've forgotten most of what I know about NIS, 
maybe
there is a different way NIS is accessed on v4 than v3 to get the UID/GID 
mappings to
the users?

I suppose if I were in your shoes I'd try generating an appropriate passwd file 
on an
F17 system (in a VM?) and not use NIS just to see what happens?  Maybe rule 
something
out?

And if that worksthen still file a bugzilla against nfs-utils.  If those
reviewing it find it is the wrong component...they will change it.  That has 
happened
to me more times than I care to admit.  :-)

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Re: Fedora 17

[Aaron Konstam]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 00:52 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: 
> Frank Murphy wrote:
> 
> >>> That's a decision you have to make for yourself.  You've read about all
> >>> the
> >>> "problems" and the "dislikes".
> >>
> >> In this fairly long thread,
> >> I haven't seen a single problem or dislike mentioned -
> >> just that there are apparently "lots" of them.
> >>
> > 
> > Ed was referring to all the other "F17" threads.
> > Why should he repeat what can be got from the archives
> > ?
> 
> I've seen a lot of complaints about Gnome 3.
> I don't recall seeing anything about Fedora 17.
> 
> Why don't you tell me your worst problem with F-17,
> so I can judge how much to worry about it?
> 
That is like tell me what you don't like about car-X but ignore all the
console options on the dashboard. 
> 


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Re: Fedora 17

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 14:02 -0700, John Wendel wrote: 
> On 06/17/2012 01:43 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 13:20 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> >> Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's a decision you have to make for yourself.  You've read about all
> >>> the
> >>> "problems" and the "dislikes".
> >> In this fairly long thread,
> >> I haven't seen a single problem or dislike mentioned -
> >> just that there are apparently "lots" of them.
> >>
> > How about these:
> >
> [snipped list of problems]
> 
> Have you tried the "cinnamon" desktop? I think it addresses all your 
> complaints. I'm liking it a lot.
> 
> > http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/leigh123linux/cinnamon/fedora-17/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

There are a number of alternate desktops but Gnome 3 is the default
desktop of F17. And that was the DE that was being talked about.
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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Tim]

On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 11:52 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
> fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

'tis the same if you use their hardware with the evil OS.  Eventually it
becomes unsupported, and the /solution/ is to buy new hardware...

Which is a major financial pain if your video hardware is built into the
motherboard, uses an older-style AGP slot, or you're using a laptop.

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Re: NFSv4

[Raymond Pittigher]

On 06/18/2012 08:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Raymond Pittigher  wrote:


the fstab is set at defaults. i am guessing something has changed with
the nfs-utils package maybe with nis?

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users/zbarak/
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: users/zbarak/
# owner: 4294967294
# group: 4294967294
user::rwx
group::---
other::---

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: users
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# cat /etc/fstab

#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Mon Jun 11 03:08:30 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under
'/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more
info
#
/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_root /   ext4
defaults1 1
UUID=bde99a9d-779d-4211-b3e1-808b62ed0195 /boot   ext4
  defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_swap swapswap
defaults0 0
172.30.5.244:/users /users  nfs4defaults
0 0



Well that all looks good. I know there have been changes to nfs-utils. One 
change involved the idmap service and no longer needing to run it on the 
client. But I just wrote a bugzilla against it for random mounts failing at 
boot time. Since I don't see mapping problems I'd be more suspect of NIS.



But with NFSv4 as NFSv3 looks and works fine on F17.
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Re: Installing smplayer2

[Roelof 'Ben' Kusters]

Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:


Is there any RPM for smplayer 2?


I don't know an smplayer2 - I only know of smplayer 0.8.0... Did you mean  
that one?


There isn't afaik. I had never heard of it, but I liked what I saw when  
you mailed about it. So I had a look. The text in the "install.txt" in the  
download from the smplayer website is not perfectly clear.
Before following the instructions, be sure to install qt-devel ( # yum  
install qt-devel ) and that once the rpmbuild is done, you look carefully  
in the terminal output for where it's parked the rpm.
In case that's all too confusing for you, I've managed to install it from  
the rpm my machine generated. I would think it would be possible for you  
to install it with my rpm.


I have temporarily parked it here:  
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138099/smplayer-0.8.0-rvm.i386.rpm


Let me know when you have it, and if it's worked. I'll also look into  
sticking this in rpm fusion, but have patience. I'm a busy man.


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/17/2012 10:12 AM, Jim wrote:

F17/Kde Fresh Install and Updated.

I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two 
other F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.


The Troubleshoot.txt is posted on :

http://fpaste.org/dtkk/

Log file post time at fpaste.org time ran out, here is new post.

http://fpaste.org/qHh3/
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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Jim]

On 06/18/2012 05:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim wrote:

F17/Kde   Fresh Install and Updated.

I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two other
F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.

 From the troubleshoot log it looks like you fixed the "server not
sharing printers" part already.  Unfortunately the debug log seems to
have been truncated for some reason so it's difficult to say what went
wrong, although it doesn't look like CUPS thinks anything went wrong at
all (no errors in printer-state-reasons or printer-state-message).

But are the other systems also using "lpd" to send the job?  Do they
have the same updates applied?  It's probably just a case of comparing
the working systems with the failing system more and more closely until
you find what's different.

Tim.
*/






The other systems are running tne same lpd:// setup.

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Re: NFSv4

[Ed Greshko]

Raymond Pittigher  wrote:

>the fstab is set at defaults. i am guessing something has changed with
>the nfs-utils package maybe with nis?
>
>[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users/zbarak/
>getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
># file: users/zbarak/
># owner: 4294967294
># group: 4294967294
>user::rwx
>group::---
>other::---
>
>[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users
>getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
># file: users
># owner: root
># group: root
>user::rwx
>group::r-x
>other::r-x
>
>[root@dhcp5169 ~]# cat /etc/fstab
>
>#
># /etc/fstab
># Created by anaconda on Mon Jun 11 03:08:30 2012
>#
># Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under
>'/dev/disk'
># See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more
>info
>#
>/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_root /   ext4   
>defaults1 1
>UUID=bde99a9d-779d-4211-b3e1-808b62ed0195 /boot   ext4 
>  defaults1 2
>/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_swap swapswap   
>defaults0 0
>172.30.5.244:/users/users  nfs4defaults
>0 0
>

Well that all looks good. I know there have been changes to nfs-utils. One 
change involved the idmap service and no longer needing to run it on the 
client. But I just wrote a bugzilla against it for random mounts failing at 
boot time. Since I don't see mapping problems I'd be more suspect of NIS. 


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Re: NFSv4

[Raymond Pittigher]

On 06/18/2012 07:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/18/2012 07:40 PM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:

I am using NIS to keep the users/groups the same across all systems. Yes it is 
old
and outdated but it works for what I need it for. I have tried several different
options including the defaults for all, this just happens to be where I am at 
now.
If I change the F17 to use NFSv3 it all seems fine. The only options for sec are
sys or kerberos and sec=sys is the default.


Nothing wrong with using NIS.  Should keep things in order  It has been a 
long
time since I last used it...but it served me well in the past.

I was just curious that "maybe" specifying the sec options and other may be
"confusing" the system.  So, if you just change everything to the equivalent of 
this

192.168.0.55:/syntegra /syntegranfs4defaults0 0

in your fstab you still have the problem.

If you go to / on the F17 system and do

getfacl users   and then drop into users and go getfacl on a good/bad entry?

Yes, I'm grasping at straws  :-)



the fstab is set at defaults. i am guessing something has changed with the 
nfs-utils package maybe with nis?

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users/zbarak/
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: users/zbarak/
# owner: 4294967294
# group: 4294967294
user::rwx
group::---
other::---

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# getfacl /users
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: users
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

[root@dhcp5169 ~]# cat /etc/fstab

#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Mon Jun 11 03:08:30 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_root /   ext4defaults
1 1
UUID=bde99a9d-779d-4211-b3e1-808b62ed0195 /boot   ext4
defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/vg_dhcp5169-lv_swap swapswapdefaults
0 0
172.30.5.244:/users /users  nfs4defaults
0 0

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Re: NFSv4

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/2012 07:40 PM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
> I am using NIS to keep the users/groups the same across all systems. Yes it 
> is old
> and outdated but it works for what I need it for. I have tried several 
> different
> options including the defaults for all, this just happens to be where I am at 
> now.
> If I change the F17 to use NFSv3 it all seems fine. The only options for sec 
> are
> sys or kerberos and sec=sys is the default. 

Nothing wrong with using NIS.  Should keep things in order  It has been a 
long
time since I last used it...but it served me well in the past.

I was just curious that "maybe" specifying the sec options and other may be
"confusing" the system.  So, if you just change everything to the equivalent of 
this

192.168.0.55:/syntegra /syntegranfs4defaults0 0

in your fstab you still have the problem.

If you go to / on the F17 system and do

getfacl users   and then drop into users and go getfacl on a good/bad entry?

Yes, I'm grasping at straws  :-)


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Re: NFSv4

[Raymond Pittigher]

On 06/18/2012 07:27 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/18/2012 06:43 PM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:



The server is RHEL6.2 and the clients are either Centos or Fedora and the 
problem
seems to be with release 17. On all clients the mount uses defaults. So on the 
F17
box we have:

172.30.5.244:/users/ on /users type nfs4
(rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=172.30.5.169,local_lock=none,addr=172.30.5.244)

A longer listing shows:
drwxr-x---. 134  4294967294  4294967294  90112 Jun 15 11:14 
vcasio
drwx--x---.   2  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 26  2007 
vchou
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 18  2007 
vehrlich
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 07:40 
vixxx.jxxx
drwx--.   4 vikram.paxxxn   vikram.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 16:21
vikxxx.paxxxn
drwx--.   4 vincent.boxura vincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 07:54
vincent.bxxtura
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Dec 27 20:16
vladimir.swxxxj
drwx--x--x.  23  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 14 15:43 
vpatel
drwx--x--x.  80  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 13 15:05 
vsawant
drwx--x---.  78  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 26  2010 
vskiendz
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb  3  2010 
wbartus
drwxrwx---.  30 rootwem   4096 Apr  6  2010 WEM
drwxrwx---.   4 nfsnobody   xxxusers2 4096 Aug 19  2006
Wireless_Lifeline
drwx--.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul  1  2008 
wjohnsto
drwx--x---.  72  4294967294  4294967294  20480 Oct 17  2011 
wjones
drwx--x---.  54  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul 29  2011 
wlanniga
drwx--x---.  42  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Apr 26  2011 
wwong
drwxrwxr-x.   2 jwilliamxx31337  4096 Feb 14 10:18 
xdevenv
drwx--.  24  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun  7 09:13
xiaoying.xx
drwxr-xr-x. 199  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 15 16:20 
yfarrah
drwx--x---.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 15:38 yliu
drwx--x---.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 27  2008 
zaeria
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb 23  2010 
zbarak

On a RHEL system with defaults we have:
172.30.5.244:/users on /users type nfs4
(rw,noatime,nodiratime,hard,intr,addr=172.30.5.244,clientaddr=172.30.5.240)

And a listing of:

drwxr-x---. 134 vcasciovcascio  90112 Jun 15 
11:14
vcasio
drwx--x---.   2 vchou  vchou 4096 Jun 26  
2007
vchou
drwx--.   4 vehrlich   vehrlich  4096 Oct 18  
2007
vehrlich
drwx--.   4 vixxx.jxxx vixxx.jxxx   4096 Jun 12 
07:40
vixxx.jxxx
drwx--.   4 vikxxx.paxxxn  vikxxx.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 
16:21
vikxxx.paxxxn
drwx--.   4 vincent.bxxturavincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 
07:54
vincent.bxxtura
drwx--.   4 vladimir.swxxxj vladimir.swxxxj   4096 Dec 27 20:16
vladimir.swxxxj
drwx--x--x.  23 vpatel vpatel   12288 Jun 14 
15:43
vpatel
drwx--x--x.  80 vsawantvsawant   4096 Jun 13 
15:05
vsawant
drwx--x---.  78 vskiendz   vskiendz  4096 Oct 26  
2010
vskiendz
drwx--.   4 wbartuswbartus   4096 Feb  3  
2010
wbartus
drwxrwx---.  30 root   wem   4096 Apr  6  
2010 WEM
drwxrwx---.   4 nfsnobody  xxxusers2 4096 Aug 19  
2006
Wireless_Lifeline
drwx--.  12 wjohnsto   wjohnsto  4096 Jul  1  
2008
wjohnsto
drwx--x---.  72 wjones wjones   20480 Oct 17  
2011
wjones
drwx--x---.  54 wlanniga   wlanniga  4096 Jul 29  
2011
wlanniga
drwx--x---.  42 wwong  wwong 4096 Apr 26  
2011
wwong
drwxrwxr-x.   2 jwilliam   xx31337  4096 Feb 14 
10:18
xdevenv
drwx--.  24 xiaoying.wuxiaoying.wu   4096 Jun  7 
09:13
xiaoying.xx
drwxr-xr-x. 199 yfarrahyfarrah  12288 Jun 15 
16:20
yfarrah
drwx--x---.   4 yliu   yliu  4096 Jun 12 
15:38
yliu
drwx--x---.  12 zaeria zaeria4096 Jun 27  
2008
zaeria
drwx--.   4 zbarak zbarak4096 Feb 23  
2010
zbarak




I see  So, you are basically exporting a single directory structure 
(/users) from
your RH6.2 system and mounting it on /users on several other systems and the 
only
system with

Re: NFSv4

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/2012 06:43 PM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
>
>
> The server is RHEL6.2 and the clients are either Centos or Fedora and the 
> problem
> seems to be with release 17. On all clients the mount uses defaults. So on 
> the F17
> box we have:
>
> 172.30.5.244:/users/ on /users type nfs4
> (rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=172.30.5.169,local_lock=none,addr=172.30.5.244)
>
> A longer listing shows:
> drwxr-x---. 134  4294967294  4294967294  90112 Jun 15 11:14 
> vcasio
> drwx--x---.   2  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 26  2007 
> vchou
> drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 18  2007 
> vehrlich
> drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 07:40 
> vixxx.jxxx
> drwx--.   4 vikram.paxxxn   vikram.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 16:21
> vikxxx.paxxxn
> drwx--.   4 vincent.boxura vincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 07:54
> vincent.bxxtura
> drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Dec 27 20:16
> vladimir.swxxxj
> drwx--x--x.  23  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 14 15:43 
> vpatel
> drwx--x--x.  80  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 13 15:05 
> vsawant
> drwx--x---.  78  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 26  2010 
> vskiendz
> drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb  3  2010 
> wbartus
> drwxrwx---.  30 rootwem   4096 Apr  6  2010 
> WEM
> drwxrwx---.   4 nfsnobody   xxxusers2 4096 Aug 19  2006
> Wireless_Lifeline
> drwx--.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul  1  2008 
> wjohnsto
> drwx--x---.  72  4294967294  4294967294  20480 Oct 17  2011 
> wjones
> drwx--x---.  54  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul 29  2011 
> wlanniga
> drwx--x---.  42  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Apr 26  2011 
> wwong
> drwxrwxr-x.   2 jwilliamxx31337  4096 Feb 14 10:18 
> xdevenv
> drwx--.  24  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun  7 09:13
> xiaoying.xx
> drwxr-xr-x. 199  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 15 16:20 
> yfarrah
> drwx--x---.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 15:38 
> yliu
> drwx--x---.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 27  2008 
> zaeria
> drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb 23  2010 
> zbarak
>
> On a RHEL system with defaults we have:
> 172.30.5.244:/users on /users type nfs4
> (rw,noatime,nodiratime,hard,intr,addr=172.30.5.244,clientaddr=172.30.5.240)
>
> And a listing of:
>
> drwxr-x---. 134 vcasciovcascio  90112 Jun 15 
> 11:14
> vcasio
> drwx--x---.   2 vchou  vchou 4096 Jun 26  
> 2007
> vchou
> drwx--.   4 vehrlich   vehrlich  4096 Oct 18  
> 2007
> vehrlich
> drwx--.   4 vixxx.jxxx vixxx.jxxx   4096 Jun 12 
> 07:40
> vixxx.jxxx
> drwx--.   4 vikxxx.paxxxn  vikxxx.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 
> 16:21
> vikxxx.paxxxn
> drwx--.   4 vincent.bxxturavincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 
> 07:54
> vincent.bxxtura
> drwx--.   4 vladimir.swxxxj vladimir.swxxxj   4096 Dec 27 20:16
> vladimir.swxxxj
> drwx--x--x.  23 vpatel vpatel   12288 Jun 14 
> 15:43
> vpatel
> drwx--x--x.  80 vsawantvsawant   4096 Jun 13 
> 15:05
> vsawant
> drwx--x---.  78 vskiendz   vskiendz  4096 Oct 26  
> 2010
> vskiendz
> drwx--.   4 wbartuswbartus   4096 Feb  3  
> 2010
> wbartus
> drwxrwx---.  30 root   wem   4096 Apr  6  
> 2010 WEM
> drwxrwx---.   4 nfsnobody  xxxusers2 4096 Aug 19  
> 2006
> Wireless_Lifeline
> drwx--.  12 wjohnsto   wjohnsto  4096 Jul  1  
> 2008
> wjohnsto
> drwx--x---.  72 wjones wjones   20480 Oct 17  
> 2011
> wjones
> drwx--x---.  54 wlanniga   wlanniga  4096 Jul 29  
> 2011
> wlanniga
> drwx--x---.  42 wwong  wwong 4096 Apr 26  
> 2011
> wwong
> drwxrwxr-x.   2 jwilliam   xx31337  4096 Feb 14 
> 10:18
> xdevenv
> drwx--.  24 xiaoying.wuxiaoying.wu   4096 Jun  7 
> 09:13
> xiaoying.xx
> drwxr-xr-x. 199 yfarrahyfarrah  12288 Jun 15 
> 16:20
> yfarrah
> drwx--x---.   4 yliu   yliu  4096 Jun 12 
> 15:38
> yliu
> drwx--x---.  12 zaeria zaeria4096 Jun 27  
> 2008
> zaeria
> drwx--.   4 zbarak zbarak409

Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.06.2012 12:44, schrieb agraham:
>> Reindl - no offense, but do you know anything at all about overclocking?
>> Let alone how suitable the 3930K is for it, and how well it scales? If not,
>> there are several helpful resources you can consult, I recommend this one:
>>
>> http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers

i know enough about IT at all to know that it is just dumb to
run hardware outside the SPECs and if doing so wonder about
stability issues

modern CPUs are most of the time in energy saving mode
why? because there is no need to run alwas at full speed

having system freezes after and while overclocking and wonder about is strange



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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[agraham]

On 06/17/2012 12:35 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Reindl Haraldwrote:




Am 17.06.2012 13:08, schrieb Christopher Svanefalk:

Heinz and Steve - thank you for taking time to reply. The reason I added

stable is because the CPU is stable at

that voltage. In fact, it is stable at even lower vcores, I put it

higher to avoid any margins. Thanks anyway.

For the record, the problem occurs even when the CPU runs at stock.


and you can not imagine that your "i7-3930K clocked at 4.2Ghz with 1.240
vcore (stable)" has damaged something?


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Reindl - no offense, but do you know anything at all about overclocking?
Let alone how suitable the 3930K is for it, and how well it scales? If not,
there are several helpful resources you can consult, I recommend this one:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers



Can somebody please answer my OP and point me to what syslogs I can examine
to figure out what went on the freezes? Thanks!




cat /var/log/mcelog

As know one seems to have mentioned it.


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Re: NFSv4

[Raymond Pittigher]

On 06/16/2012 11:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/16/2012 05:43 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote:

Yes, I configured the /etc/idmapd... file and set the Domain variable. Started 
the systemctl restart nfs-idmap.service. If I go back to NFSv3 it all looks OK. 
It also seems to be only a problem with Fedora 17 at the moment. I did a clean 
install with Fedora 16 and had it working properly then did the upgrade to 17 
and NFSv4 is missing some, not all, of the mappings. That list above is a small 
paste of about 300 users. I then did a clean install of Fedora 17 and it also 
has the same problem. About 20% did the UID/GID mapping and showed the username 
while the rest showed the nfsnobody mapping. Re-mounting to NFSv3 fixes the 
listing.


I wonder what email client you are usingsince it quotes previous poorly 
making it
hard to determine who wrote what.

Your NFS4 server systemwhat is that?

You said you're only having trouble with F17 as the NFS4 client.  You've also 
said
that some uid/gid are mapping correctly while others are not.

Would it be possible to give a larger sample size than the 2?  And could you do 
an ls
-ln with the file system unmounted just to verify the mount points were created
correctly?

I only have a few exported file systems and a few users and not seeing any 
problems.

Maybe you can describe your exports and mount points a bit more?



The server is RHEL6.2 and the clients are either Centos or Fedora and the problem seems to be with release 17. 
On all clients the mount uses defaults. So on the F17 box we have:


172.30.5.244:/users/ on /users type nfs4 
(rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=172.30.5.169,local_lock=none,addr=172.30.5.244)


A longer listing shows:
drwxr-x---. 134  4294967294  4294967294  90112 Jun 15 11:14 
vcasio
drwx--x---.   2  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 26  2007 
vchou
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 18  2007 
vehrlich
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 07:40 
vixxx.jxxx
drwx--.   4 vikram.paxxxn   vikram.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 16:21 
vikxxx.paxxxn
drwx--.   4 vincent.boxura vincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 07:54 
vincent.bxxtura
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Dec 27 20:16 
vladimir.swxxxj
drwx--x--x.  23  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 14 15:43 
vpatel
drwx--x--x.  80  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 13 15:05 
vsawant
drwx--x---.  78  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Oct 26  2010 
vskiendz
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb  3  2010 
wbartus
drwxrwx---.  30 rootwem   4096 Apr  6  2010 WEM
drwxrwx---.   4 nfsnobody   xxxusers2 4096 Aug 19  2006 
Wireless_Lifeline
drwx--.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul  1  2008 
wjohnsto
drwx--x---.  72  4294967294  4294967294  20480 Oct 17  2011 
wjones
drwx--x---.  54  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jul 29  2011 
wlanniga
drwx--x---.  42  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Apr 26  2011 
wwong
drwxrwxr-x.   2 jwilliamxx31337  4096 Feb 14 10:18 
xdevenv
drwx--.  24  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun  7 09:13 
xiaoying.xx
drwxr-xr-x. 199  4294967294  4294967294  12288 Jun 15 16:20 
yfarrah
drwx--x---.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 12 15:38 yliu
drwx--x---.  12  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Jun 27  2008 
zaeria
drwx--.   4  4294967294  4294967294   4096 Feb 23  2010 
zbarak

On a RHEL system with defaults we have:
172.30.5.244:/users on /users type nfs4 
(rw,noatime,nodiratime,hard,intr,addr=172.30.5.244,clientaddr=172.30.5.240)


And a listing of:

drwxr-x---. 134 vcasciovcascio  90112 Jun 15 
11:14 vcasio
drwx--x---.   2 vchou  vchou 4096 Jun 26  
2007 vchou
drwx--.   4 vehrlich   vehrlich  4096 Oct 18  
2007 vehrlich
drwx--.   4 vixxx.jxxx vixxx.jxxx   4096 Jun 12 
07:40 vixxx.jxxx
drwx--.   4 vikxxx.paxxxn  vikxxx.paxxxn 4096 Apr 26 
16:21 vikxxx.paxxxn
drwx--.   4 vincent.bxxturavincent.bxxtura   4096 May 31 
07:54 vincent.bxxtura
drwx--.   4 vladimir.swxxxj vladimir.swxxxj   4096 Dec 27 20:16 
vladimir.swxxxj
drwx--x--x.  23 vpatel vpatel   12288 Jun 14 
15:43 vpatel
drwx--x--x.  80 vsawantvsawant   4096 Jun 13 
15:05 vsawant
drwx--x---.  78 vskiendz   vskiendz  4096 Oct 26  
2010 vskiendz
drwx--.   4 wbartuswbartus   4096 Fe

Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Mateusz Marzantowicz]

On 18.06.2012 11:39, Edward M wrote:
> Hi
>
> After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a
> resentment way.  made me wonder if
>  nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should 
> look into either amd,intel graphics instead or
> he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?
>
> linus presentation:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/

I think that he knows best the level of involvement of companies like
nvidia in Linux kernel development. We have no reason not to believe him
about this. The problem is that video manufacturers, not only nvidia, do
not even care to provide good documentation so that devels can write
open source replacements for proprietary drivers.


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Re: Printer won't Print - Log file ,Troubleshoot.txt

[Tim Waugh]

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim wrote:
> F17/Kde   Fresh Install and Updated.
> 
> I have this Printer Driver from Samsung , And it is working on two other 
> F17 Boxes and on same AP Network.

From the troubleshoot log it looks like you fixed the "server not
sharing printers" part already.  Unfortunately the debug log seems to
have been truncated for some reason so it's difficult to say what went
wrong, although it doesn't look like CUPS thinks anything went wrong at
all (no errors in printer-state-reasons or printer-state-message).

But are the other systems also using "lpd" to send the job?  Do they
have the same updates applied?  It's probably just a case of comparing
the working systems with the failing system more and more closely until
you find what's different.

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Re: OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.06.2012 11:39, schrieb Edward M:
> After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a resentment way.  
> made me wonder if
>  nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should  look 
> into either amd,intel graphics instead or
> he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?

do NOT buy hardware which needs binary drivers

it makes always troubles with new fedra-versions or kernel-updates
it tends to make your ahrwdare unuseable if nvidia decides calling
your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

there are no good reasons for binary drivers


Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
the integrated graphics works jsut fine including KDE desktop effects




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Re: FedoraProject Printer Howto Troubleshoot

[Tim Waugh]

FWIW, all such pages are in the "Debugging" category:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging

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OT: nvidia video for linux a good idea?

[Edward M]

Hi

After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a resentment 
way.  made me wonder if
 nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should  
look into either amd,intel graphics instead or

he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?

linus presentation:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/
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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/2012 03:40 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> Ed, Im using Nouveau, never had them cause issues for me in the past though.

OK  I too have had little problems with nouveau.  The only problems I've 
had with
nouveau has been the occasional "jumbled" screen.  The nVidia binaries have 
been a
different matter.


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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Christopher Svanefalk]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 06/18/2012 03:02 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christopher Svanefalk
> >  wrote:
> >> Recently I have been having problems with my machine completely
> freezing up
> >> seemingly randomly. The display freezes in its current frame, and all
> I/O is
> >> completely unresponsive. It is not possible to SSH into it at this stage
> >> (ssh fails with a Host Unreachable error). The only remedy is a manual
> >> reset.
> >>
> >> I was wondering how I could go about trying to figure out what is going
> on?
> >> What log files can I look at to figure out what happened just before the
> >> reset etc? Would be grateful for any help.
> >>
> >> My specs are the following:
> >>
> >> Fedora 17 standard desktop version, completely updated as of June 17,
> 2012.
> >>
> >> i7-3930K clocked at 4.2Ghz with 1.240 vcore (stable)
> >> Gigabyte X79-UD7
> >> Nvidia GTX285 (main suspect, since it is provably broken. However, I
> have
> >> not had these problems earlier)
> >> SATA HDD from Seagate.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Christopher Svanefalk
> > Power supply issues?
> > Beyond that, I'd configure lm_sensors ($ sensors-detect) and
> > periodically log the output of $ sensors into a log file.
> >
> > - Gilboa
>
> I don't see that anyone has asked what I thought would be the very first
> question
>
> The box has an nVidia cardbut I've not seen if the nVidia drivers or
> nouveau is
> being used.
>
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Ed, Im using Nouveau, never had them cause issues for me in the past though.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/2012 03:02 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christopher Svanefalk
>  wrote:
>> Recently I have been having problems with my machine completely freezing up
>> seemingly randomly. The display freezes in its current frame, and all I/O is
>> completely unresponsive. It is not possible to SSH into it at this stage
>> (ssh fails with a Host Unreachable error). The only remedy is a manual
>> reset.
>>
>> I was wondering how I could go about trying to figure out what is going on?
>> What log files can I look at to figure out what happened just before the
>> reset etc? Would be grateful for any help.
>>
>> My specs are the following:
>>
>> Fedora 17 standard desktop version, completely updated as of June 17, 2012.
>>
>> i7-3930K clocked at 4.2Ghz with 1.240 vcore (stable)
>> Gigabyte X79-UD7
>> Nvidia GTX285 (main suspect, since it is provably broken. However, I have
>> not had these problems earlier)
>> SATA HDD from Seagate.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Christopher Svanefalk
> Power supply issues?
> Beyond that, I'd configure lm_sensors ($ sensors-detect) and
> periodically log the output of $ sensors into a log file.
>
> - Gilboa

I don't see that anyone has asked what I thought would be the very first 
question

The box has an nVidia cardbut I've not seen if the nVidia drivers or 
nouveau is
being used.

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Re: Debugging a system freeze?

[Gilboa Davara]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christopher Svanefalk
 wrote:
> Recently I have been having problems with my machine completely freezing up
> seemingly randomly. The display freezes in its current frame, and all I/O is
> completely unresponsive. It is not possible to SSH into it at this stage
> (ssh fails with a Host Unreachable error). The only remedy is a manual
> reset.
>
> I was wondering how I could go about trying to figure out what is going on?
> What log files can I look at to figure out what happened just before the
> reset etc? Would be grateful for any help.
>
> My specs are the following:
>
> Fedora 17 standard desktop version, completely updated as of June 17, 2012.
>
> i7-3930K clocked at 4.2Ghz with 1.240 vcore (stable)
> Gigabyte X79-UD7
> Nvidia GTX285 (main suspect, since it is provably broken. However, I have
> not had these problems earlier)
> SATA HDD from Seagate.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Christopher Svanefalk

Power supply issues?
Beyond that, I'd configure lm_sensors ($ sensors-detect) and
periodically log the output of $ sensors into a log file.

- Gilboa
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