Re: Change Fedora Releases source

2012-07-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:27:22AM +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote:
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> Hi, all.
> 
> I have both Beefy on a desktop machine & a laptop. On the desktop
> variety, `yum update` works fine but on the laptop it's always throwing
> errors (timing out, 401s, etc).
> 

These look like network issues to me. Exact error messages would help.

[...]

> 
> What I'd like to do is check that the laptop is using the same sources
> for Fedora Releases as the desktop & if, as I suspect, it's not, change
> it so as not to encounter these errors.
> 
> I've tried Googling on the subject but I'm just seeing results for
> `/etc/yum.repos` which are not the source files with the relevant
> information I'll need so if anyone can point me to the relevant config
> files, I'd appreciate it.
> 

What do you mean by "sources"?  Are you using Debian terminology for
repositories?  If yes, then "/etc/yum.repos.d/" is indeed the right
place.

If it is indeed a repo mirror problem, the output of the following
should help.

$ yum repolist

Check if you the "baseurl" line is commented out in the enabled repo
files in /etc/yum.repos.d/.  For more info you can look at
`man yum.conf'.

GL

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Re: criminal use of linux

2012-07-31 Thread Roger Barraud
AKA Extortion, Racketeering.


On 1/08/2012, at 4:02 PM, Skunk Worx  wrote:

> Uh oh...
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/25/microsoft_patent_deal_amdocs/
> 
> "Microsoft has claimed since 2007 that more than 235 of its patents are 
> violated by the open source operating system Linux, while critics claim 
> Redmond has a cynical eye on the project as another source of revenue."
> 
> Between the "Android Tax" and this, indemnification licensing appears to be 
> the only way to protect linux users from themselves.
> 
> Oracle Linux Network : $119 per system, per year.
> RedHat Desktop : $49 per system, per year (minimum).
> RedHat Server  : $349 per system, per year (minimum).
> 
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criminal use of linux

2012-07-31 Thread Skunk Worx

Uh oh...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/25/microsoft_patent_deal_amdocs/

"Microsoft has claimed since 2007 that more than 235 of its patents are 
violated by the open source operating system Linux, while critics claim 
Redmond has a cynical eye on the project as another source of revenue."


Between the "Android Tax" and this, indemnification licensing appears to 
be the only way to protect linux users from themselves.


Oracle Linux Network : $119 per system, per year.
RedHat Desktop : $49 per system, per year (minimum).
RedHat Server  : $349 per system, per year (minimum).

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Re: Change Fedora Releases source

2012-07-31 Thread Phil Dobbin
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Ed Greshko wrote:

> On 08/01/2012 07:27 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> I have both Beefy on a desktop machine & a laptop. On the desktop 
>> variety, `yum update` works fine but on the laptop it's always
>> throwing errors (timing out, 401s, etc).
>> 
>> The laptop was upgraded from 12 -> 15 -> 16 -> 17 using preupgrade
>> as & when the new releases became available & the desktop was a
>> clean install from a Live CD.
>> 
>> What I'd like to do is check that the laptop is using the same
>> sources for Fedora Releases as the desktop & if, as I suspect, it's
>> not, change it so as not to encounter these errors.
>> 
>> I've tried Googling on the subject but I'm just seeing results for 
>> `/etc/yum.repos` which are not the source files with the relevant 
>> information I'll need so if anyone can point me to the relevant
>> config files, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> IMO, it is better to copy/paste the errors and show them to people.
> This will better enable people comment what is going on.

O.K., will do. I've got a pretty busy lab here at the moment so next
time I boot the laptop in question, I will do so but they are basically
ERRNO 12, timed out & 401 as yum switches between mirrors trying to get
the required files.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Allen Newell


On 7/31/2012 6:24 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:


Paul,
  You may want to look at the search capabilities built into less.
(man less). Unless you need to modify the file, less should let you
do what you want.
  Also, you can use ls -FR --color | less -R to get rid of the output
to the screen buffer.

Have fun.
Mikkel


Mikkel:

Yeah, I think I have underestimated what less can do ... I'll check the 
man pages.


I want to believe that all I want the editor for is navigation, but I 
know that occasionally I edit out items I don't care about so I have a 
file left of "things to work on".


I pretty happy with the two options I got, it makes initial scan for 
"problems" alot easier.


Thanks,
Paul

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 07/31/2012 08:00 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 7/31/2012 4:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/31/2012 07:12 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>> Wouldn't -R work better then -r?
>> Yes, it would be better.
>>
>
> Ed and Mikkel:
>
> +++
> script -c "ls -FR --color" outfile; less -R outfile
> +++
>
> works great. Its a bit of a pain to not be able to use an editor
to scan the file, but I am happy to be able to get "page breaks"
with the color as that's better than setting a window scroll memory
to 10K lines (and it seems the script command gives me that anyway
as everything goes to the screen first.
>
> Many thanks,
> Paul
>
>
Paul,
 You may want to look at the search capabilities built into less.
(man less). Unless you need to modify the file, less should let you
do what you want.
 Also, you can use ls -FR --color | less -R to get rid of the output
to the screen buffer.

Have fun.
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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 7/31/2012 12:22 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:10:22AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 07/31/2012 12:45 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

At the moment, I can't think of what editor would retain the colors.  :-(

If it's too long, run it through either more or less.

I think the complete command that would satisfy the OP is:

 ls -C --color=always | less -R



Dave:

This also works very well

Many thanks,
Paul
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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 7/31/2012 4:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/31/2012 07:12 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Wouldn't -R work better then -r?

Yes, it would be better.



Ed and Mikkel:

+++
script -c "ls -FR --color" outfile; less -R outfile
+++

works great. Its a bit of a pain to not be able to use an editor to scan 
the file, but I am happy to be able to get "page breaks" with the color 
as that's better than setting a window scroll memory to 10K lines (and 
it seems the script command gives me that anyway as everything goes to 
the screen first.


Many thanks,
Paul


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Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-31 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Timothy Murphy  wrote:
> David Boles wrote:
>
>>> The Fedora Board is soliciting ideas for how to name Fedora releases
>>> from community members.  Proposals should be sent to the Advisory
>>> Board list[0][1] no later than 16:00 UTC on 25 July 2012. The
>>> community is invited to discuss the proposals on the Advisory Board list.
>>>
>>> [0] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
>>> [1] advisory-bo...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>> My only comment is to *please* don't choose to use really stupid names
>> like Ubuntu uses.
>
> Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
> I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
> (if that is indeed the right name).
>
> Why not just say, "It seemed like a good idea at the time.
> But it obviously has not caught on.
> Let's forget it."

Who ever said that was the point of a release name? It never really
had a purpose that we can now look back on and say it failed. It is
just a small thing our community has always done for fun. I find it
hard to tell someone else to stop having a little bit of fun even when
I might not personally find it fun and think it has little or no
value. It isn't any skin off my nose so I say let those who find this
fun have their fun.

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Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/31/2012 04:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
(if that is indeed the right name).


I've seen a number of people using the code name, both here and on 
fedoraforum.org.  Until F 17, however, the code names were mostly 
ignored and I, for one, would be just as happy if people went back to 
ignoring them, especially when the code names are so juvenile.

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Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/01/2012 07:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
> I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
> (if that is indeed the right name).
>
> Why not just say, "It seemed like a good idea at the time.
> But it obviously has not caught on.
> Let's forget it."

You are not the only one  But, the people that do the actual work to 
produce the releases seem to enjoy the exercise.

I personally don't care and feel it is a waste of time as is discussing changes 
to the process.  But since I'm not part of that group I know my opinion holds 
no weight.

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Re: Change Fedora Releases source

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/01/2012 07:27 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> I have both Beefy on a desktop machine & a laptop. On the desktop
> variety, `yum update` works fine but on the laptop it's always throwing
> errors (timing out, 401s, etc).
>
> The laptop was upgraded from 12 -> 15 -> 16 -> 17 using preupgrade as &
> when the new releases became available & the desktop was a clean install
> from a Live CD.
>
> What I'd like to do is check that the laptop is using the same sources
> for Fedora Releases as the desktop & if, as I suspect, it's not, change
> it so as not to encounter these errors.
>
> I've tried Googling on the subject but I'm just seeing results for
> `/etc/yum.repos` which are not the source files with the relevant
> information I'll need so if anyone can point me to the relevant config
> files, I'd appreciate it.

IMO, it is better to copy/paste the errors and show them to people.   This will 
better enable people comment what is going on.

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Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-31 Thread Timothy Murphy
David Boles wrote:

>> The Fedora Board is soliciting ideas for how to name Fedora releases
>> from community members.  Proposals should be sent to the Advisory
>> Board list[0][1] no later than 16:00 UTC on 25 July 2012. The
>> community is invited to discuss the proposals on the Advisory Board list.
>>
>> [0] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
>> [1] advisory-bo...@lists.fedoraproject.org

> My only comment is to *please* don't choose to use really stupid names
> like Ubuntu uses.

Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
(if that is indeed the right name).

Why not just say, "It seemed like a good idea at the time.
But it obviously has not caught on.
Let's forget it."



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Re: Unable To Update.....

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/01/2012 06:33 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> WellI tried the suggestion Ed, and unfortunately this is the output:
>
> bash-4.2# yum distro-sync
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml:
>  [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found : 
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml:
>  [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found : 
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from fedora-gimp: [Errno 256] No more 
> mirrors to try.
> You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/janus
> bash-4.2#
>
> So I don't know what needs to be done now?is there some way to "point" it 
> in a different direction, so that it can find things again?...instead of 
> giving me errors?waiting with baited breath!...LoL! 

Those repos are not "standard" repos.

Remove the fault repo file from /etc/yum.repos.d

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Change Fedora Releases source

2012-07-31 Thread Phil Dobbin
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Hi, all.

I have both Beefy on a desktop machine & a laptop. On the desktop
variety, `yum update` works fine but on the laptop it's always throwing
errors (timing out, 401s, etc).

The laptop was upgraded from 12 -> 15 -> 16 -> 17 using preupgrade as &
when the new releases became available & the desktop was a clean install
from a Live CD.

What I'd like to do is check that the laptop is using the same sources
for Fedora Releases as the desktop & if, as I suspect, it's not, change
it so as not to encounter these errors.

I've tried Googling on the subject but I'm just seeing results for
`/etc/yum.repos` which are not the source files with the relevant
information I'll need so if anyone can point me to the relevant config
files, I'd appreciate it.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: Unable To Update.....

2012-07-31 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I


On 07/31/2012 09:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/31/2012 09:02 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:

And in reference to upgrading from F16 to F17I'm not realy going to do THAT until I know they've worked 
out all the kinks, I always kind of "trail" the releases so that I'm never so far ahead that I 
can't go "back". I only recently moved up from F15 when it's Support Life Cycle endedI;l be 
moving from F16 to F17 when F16's EOL has arrived as well.but I'm going to definitely try out thi command 
line when I get out of the office today...thanks you again for the advice! Also, just as a 
"side-quest" if you will..

I see  Well, you seem to have F15 stuff left overwhich seems to be 
giving you headaches in what you are trying to do.   It would help to know what 
your are doing and how your are doing it and copy/pasting the information.  
Otherwise, everyone will just be guessing.  Some people are better at guessing 
than others.  I'm not so good at it.

  
So I have a 320GB HD that has corporate data on it, and I need to acess that data. It's a Western Digital SATA drive, with that "WDVault" software on it that's suposed to keep the data secure, well it works, because when I plug it into my PC i can see the WDVault partiton wvhich isn't that big, but when I look for the info it tels me that I don't have permission to access it!!?? Is threre anyway for me to get to this info?.lok forward to reading your responses!!
  

I don't know anything about WDVault.  But, it sounds like a "security" system.  
It has been my experience that any software included with disks or USB Memory is MS 
Windows stuff and thus not of value in the Fedora environment.



WellI tried the suggestion Ed, and unfortunately this is the output:

bash-4.2# yum distro-sync
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found : 
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml

Trying other mirror.
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found : 
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/luya/gimp/fedora-15/i686/repodata/repomd.xml

Trying other mirror.
Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from fedora-gimp: [Errno 256] No 
more mirrors to try.

You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/janus
bash-4.2#

So I don't know what needs to be done now?is there some way to 
"point" it in a different direction, so that it can find things 
again?...instead of giving me errors?waiting with baited breath!...LoL!



EGO II

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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 14:23:38 -0500,
  "Mikkel L. Ellertson"  wrote:


On 07/31/2012 11:52 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:


Is there a way to control what is in that file using

NetworkManager configuration?
Under the IPv4 settings, pick Automatic (DHCP) address only.


That looks like what I want. I'll need to see if it is per interface 
(which would be better) or per connection.


Thanks.
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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 18:30:22 +0100,
  Tony Molloy  wrote:

So here's a solution:

Set up /etc/resolv.conf just as you want. Then

chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf


I knew about that as one possible hammer. I was hoping to find something 
that worked more with NM than against it.

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:10:22AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/31/2012 12:45 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >At the moment, I can't think of what editor would retain the colors.  :-(
> 
> If it's too long, run it through either more or less.

I think the complete command that would satisfy the OP is:

ls -C --color=always | less -R

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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 07/31/2012 11:52 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> My short term goal is to set up resolv.conf the way I want without disabling 
> network manager.
> I set up a config file for dhclient, but it turns out that
NetworkManager runs dhclient with the configfile set to one it
generates insteqad of the normal one used by dhclient. For the first
wireless interface the file is named /var/run/nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf .
>
> Is there a way to control what is in that file using
NetworkManager configuration?
Under the IPv4 settings, pick Automatic (DHCP) address only.

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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-07-31 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 07/31/2012 12:20 PM, Georgios Petasis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am facing a problem booting Fedora 17: the pc freezes unless I use 
> "acpi=off" in kernel parameters, in grub.
> If I use acpi=off, fedora boots and works ok, but cannot power off the pc 
> after a shutdown.
> 
> How can I solve this issue?

So you have to choose: either you can power on or you can power off. :-)

More seriously, I suppose your Fedora already has all the updates, is there
any BIOS update available for your pc?

Do you have any hints about where the problem could be? (try removing "rhgb", 
"quiet"
and so on from the grub command line so you can see all the kernel output).

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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Tony Molloy
On Tuesday 31 July 2012 18:41:51 Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Tony Molloy  
wrote:
> > So here's a solution:
> >
> > Set up /etc/resolv.conf just as you want. Then
> >
> > chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Shouldn't this be "i" (immutable) instead of "1"? I didn't see an
> attribute like that in the man page.

Oops typo on my part!!!
> 
> Interesting though... I've been running linux exclusively for
>  several years now but never used or needed that tool.
> 

Only time I've ever had to use it myself. I need to use my 
university's DNS rather than the one my ISP gives me.

Tony
> Richard
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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Tony Molloy  wrote:
> So here's a solution:
>
> Set up /etc/resolv.conf just as you want. Then
>
> chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf

Shouldn't this be "i" (immutable) instead of "1"? I didn't see an
attribute like that in the man page.

Interesting though... I've been running linux exclusively for several
years now but never used or needed that tool.

Richard
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Re: Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Tony Molloy
On Tuesday 31 July 2012 17:52:45 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> My short term goal is to set up resolv.conf the way I want without
> disabling network manager.
> I set up a config file for dhclient, but it turns out that
>  NetworkManager runs dhclient with the configfile set to one it
>  generates insteqad of the normal one used by dhclient. For the
>  first wireless interface the file is named
>  /var/run/nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf .
> 
> Is there a way to control what is in that file using NetworkManager
> configuration?
> 

It's really difficult to get rid of NetworkManager in Fedora, I've 
tried.

So here's a solution:

Set up /etc/resolv.conf just as you want. Then

chattr +1 /etc/resolv.conf

This prevents NetworkManager from messing with it ever again.

Tony
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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/31/2012 12:45 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

At the moment, I can't think of what editor would retain the colors.  :-(


If it's too long, run it through either more or less.
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Modifying nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf ?

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
My short term goal is to set up resolv.conf the way I want without 
disabling network manager.
I set up a config file for dhclient, but it turns out that NetworkManager 
runs dhclient with the configfile set to one it generates insteqad of 
the normal one used by dhclient. For the first wireless interface the 
file is named /var/run/nm-dhclient-wlan0.conf .


Is there a way to control what is in that file using NetworkManager 
configuration?

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Re: How to debug high system load?

2012-07-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 08:21:57AM -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Suvayu Ali 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I did mention it. I also tried many other things all of which I reported
> > back to the list. You can find the gory details in the archive.
> > 
> >  > 421944>
> 
> Interesting! So the audio chip is the culprit or just the most recent
> candidate?
>  

Are you refering to the Intel HD audio chipsets issue?  I don't think
so, because I haven't had any problems with audio in quite a while.
Moreover I think my hardware was not one of the affected ones:

  description: Audio device
  product: 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio
  vendor: Intel Corporation

As I mentioned in my earlier posts; it seemed like a file system issue,
but then I'm no expert.  Would interesting to know what was causing the
problem though.  Maybe I'll reboot to the older kernel when I have some
time and see if I can replicate it.

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Re: How to debug high system load?

2012-07-31 Thread Jack Craig
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

>
>
> I did mention it. I also tried many other things all of which I reported
> back to the list. You can find the gory details in the archive.
>
> <
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-July/thread.html#421944
> >
>

Interesting! So the audio chip is the culprit or just the most recent
candidate?


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Binding mouse wheel scroll and cursor keys in screen

2012-07-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi,

I want to bind mouse wheel scroll and cursor keys with modifier keys in
screen but I am not sure what key code or termcap capability to
use. This is what I have tried so far with no luck.

For mouse wheel scroll:

  bindkey -k SF copy
  bindkey -k SR copy
  bindkey -k sf copy
  bindkey -k sr copy
  bindkey -k cs copy
  bindkey -k kF copy
  bindkey -k kR copy

The following works for now: bindkey -k k8 copy (for Fn 8)

Cursor keys:

+ Here I expect to switch window with C-o 
  bind \033[C next
  bind \033[D prev
+ Here I expect to switch window with C-
  bindkey -d ^[[1;5D prev
  bindkey -d ^[[1;5C next
+ This one was just to see if binding arrow keys work. I expected just
   to switch windows.
  bindkey -d ^[[D prev
  bindkey -d ^[[C next

This works however:

  bindkey -k kr next
  bindkey -k kl prev

What am I missing here? Thanks for any pointers,

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Re: Unable To Update.....

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/31/2012 09:02 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> And in reference to upgrading from F16 to F17I'm not realy going to do 
> THAT until I know they've worked out all the kinks, I always kind of "trail" 
> the releases so that I'm never so far ahead that I can't go "back". I only 
> recently moved up from F15 when it's Support Life Cycle endedI;l be 
> moving from F16 to F17 when F16's EOL has arrived as well.but I'm going 
> to definitely try out thi command line when I get out of the office 
> today...thanks you again for the advice! Also, just as a "side-quest" if you 
> will..

I see  Well, you seem to have F15 stuff left overwhich seems to be 
giving you headaches in what you are trying to do.   It would help to know what 
your are doing and how your are doing it and copy/pasting the information.  
Otherwise, everyone will just be guessing.  Some people are better at guessing 
than others.  I'm not so good at it.

>  
> So I have a 320GB HD that has corporate data on it, and I need to acess that 
> data. It's a Western Digital SATA drive, with that "WDVault" software on it 
> that's suposed to keep the data secure, well it works, because when I plug it 
> into my PC i can see the WDVault partiton wvhich isn't that big, but when I 
> look for the info it tels me that I don't have permission to access it!!?? Is 
> threre anyway for me to get to this info?.lok forward to reading your 
> responses!!
>  

I don't know anything about WDVault.  But, it sounds like a "security" system.  
It has been my experience that any software included with disks or USB Memory 
is MS Windows stuff and thus not of value in the Fedora environment.


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Re: Unable To Update.....

2012-07-31 Thread Eddie O'Connor
And in reference to upgrading from F16 to F17I'm not realy going to do
THAT until I know they've worked out all the kinks, I always kind of
"trail" the releases so that I'm never so far ahead that I can't go "back".
I only recently moved up from F15 when it's Support Life Cycle endedI;l
be moving from F16 to F17 when F16's EOL has arrived as well.but I'm
going to definitely try out thi command line when I get out of the office
today...thanks you again for the advice! Also, just as a "side-quest" if
you will..

So I have a 320GB HD that has corporate data on it, and I need to acess
that data. It's a Western Digital SATA drive, with that "WDVault" software
on it that's suposed to keep the data secure, well it works, because when I
plug it into my PC i can see the WDVault partiton wvhich isn't that big,
but when I look for the info it tels me that I don't have permission to
access it!!?? Is threre anyway for me to get to this info?.lok forward
to reading your responses!!

Cheers!


EGO II

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 07/31/2012 08:46 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> > I'm currently finding it difficult to upgrade my Fedora 16 laptop. I
> have tried being selective and choosing just one or two of the updates in
> the he updates list, hoping that after they went through I'd be able to do
> the rest but to no avail. I would like to submit a photo of the actual
> updates, but I think I remember reading that it's not allowed on this
> mailing list. SO I have just copied the names of the updates, and the error
> message I get when it fails. Hopefully someone can help me out with this!?
> >
> > Name Of Updates:
> >
> > "The Linux Kernel": kernel-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> > "Development package for building kernel modules to match the kernel":
> kernel-devel-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> > "Header files for the Linux kernel for use by glibc":
> kernel-headers-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> > "Assortment of tools for the Linux kernel": kernel-tools-3.4.6-1.fc16
> (32-bit)
> >
> > List of Errors upon failure to upgrade:
> >> ERROR with transaction check vs depsolve:
> >> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.40-4.fc15.i686 is needed by
> kmod-wl-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-1.fc15.1.i686
> >> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.43.5-2.fc15.i686 is needed by
> kmod-wl-2.6.43.5-2.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-1.fc15.19.i686
> >> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.43.8-1.fc15.i686 is needed by
> kmod-wl-2.6.43.8-1.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-2.fc15.i686
> >> Please report this error at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide&component=yum
> > Thank in advance for any help!
> >
>
> It sounds like you are trying to upgrade from F16 to F17?  Via what method?
>
> And you have F15 stuff still on your F16 system?
>
> Maybe a good idea would be to first run yum distro-sync   And find
> whatever else is hanging around from F15.
>
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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/31/2012 07:12 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Wouldn't -R work better then -r?

Yes, it would be better.

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Just gotta say Ed, you're like.the Wizard when it comes to this stuff!..LoL!

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From: "Ed Greshko" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Subject: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file
Date: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 2:22 am


On 07/31/2012 02:15 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Fedora List:
>
> I can run "ls -FR" on a directory and get a lovely listing with lots of color 
> coded information to let me know what is what. I have hit a directory that is 
> big enough that scrolling though the output isn't efficient. I would like to 
> capture the output of "ls -FR" into a file that preserves the color coding (I 
> don't want to read each file as I wish to visually scan to see if something 
> isn't right and color is a great way to see it).
>
> My attempts with "more" have stripped color. So has "less". Does anyone have 
> an idea how to capture the output of "ls -FR" that keeps the color coding?
>
> This is a low priority item ... just something that would be nice to be able 
> to do
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul

script -c "ls -FR --color" outfile





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Re: Unable To Update.....

2012-07-31 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Thanks Ed!I'll try that and let you know how it goes...

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From: "Ed Greshko" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Subject: Unable To Update.
Date: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 8:56 pm


On 07/31/2012 08:46 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> I'm currently finding it difficult to upgrade my Fedora 16 laptop. I have 
> tried being selective and choosing just one or two of the updates in the he 
> updates list, hoping that after they went through I'd be able to do the rest 
> but to no avail. I would like to submit a photo of the actual updates, but I 
> think I remember reading that it's not allowed on this mailing list. SO I 
> have just copied the names of the updates, and the error message I get when 
> it fails. Hopefully someone can help me out with this!?
>
> Name Of Updates:
>
> "The Linux Kernel": kernel-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> "Development package for building kernel modules to match the kernel": 
> kernel-devel-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> "Header files for the Linux kernel for use by glibc": 
> kernel-headers-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
> "Assortment of tools for the Linux kernel": kernel-tools-3.4.6-1.fc16 (32-bit)
>
> List of Errors upon failure to upgrade:
>> ERROR with transaction check vs depsolve:
>> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.40-4.fc15.i686 is needed by 
>> kmod-wl-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-1.fc15.1.i686
>> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.43.5-2.fc15.i686 is needed by 
>> kmod-wl-2.6.43.5-2.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-1.fc15.19.i686
>> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.43.8-1.fc15.i686 is needed by 
>> kmod-wl-2.6.43.8-1.fc15.i686-5.100.82.112-2.fc15.i686
>> Please report this error at 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide&component=yum
> Thank in advance for any help!
>

It sounds like you are trying to upgrade from F16 to F17?  Via what method?

And you have F15 stuff still on your F16 system?

Maybe a good idea would be to first run yum distro-sync   And find whatever 
else is hanging around from F15.

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Re: Apache2 directory listing problem F16

2012-07-31 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 11:38 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> It would be nice if there were a  cp option to adopt the context of
> the target.

If you copy, the files get the right context based on the filepath for
where they're copied to.  i.e. If you cp homepage.html /var/www/html/
the homepage.html file will be given normal contexts for /var/www/html/
(which are the right ones to webserve your files).

If you move it, then the original contexts of the file go with the copy.
If you created the file outside of the webserving directory tree, it
will keep those non-webserving contexts.  But a  move of a working
webservable file between places within /var/www/html won't be a problem,
as it'll already have the right contexts, whether that be moving between
directories, or just moving the file for a rename.

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 07/31/2012 02:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/31/2012 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I'll try to think a bit more
>
> I just realized you mentioned "more" and "less" in your original
post
>
> less -r outfile
>
> Will show the colors Is that sufficient?
>
Wouldn't -R work better then -r?

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Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-07-31 Thread Georgios Petasis

Hi all,

I am facing a problem booting Fedora 17: the pc freezes unless I use 
"acpi=off" in kernel parameters, in grub.
If I use acpi=off, fedora boots and works ok, but cannot power off the 
pc after a shutdown.


How can I solve this issue?

George
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Re: multiple terminals with different colors

2012-07-31 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi

That will be one of the upcoming F18 release feature.

Z

2012/7/31 Mihamina Rakotomandimby :
> Hi all,
>
> I use Fedora 16 LXDE spin.
>
> LXTerminal is working fine, but I want a feature.
>
> Problem:
> When I open multiple LXTerminal and I set the BG color of one, all the other
> terminals also change.
> I want to setup the BG color independantly, because I use BG color to
> identify what remote server I am connected to.
>
> What settings, or what terminal application or wrapper do you recommen me to
> achieve this?
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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Thanks for: F17: trying to diagnose problem with external USB drive

2012-07-31 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 22:39:16 PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> If you are trying to put 110 GB on a 128 GB drive, you are probably
> running out of room. Run "df -h" when the drive is mounted, and see
> how much space the drive has after things like the space used by
> formatting the drive, and possible differences in how 1 GB is
> figured are taken into account.

sorry, I forgot to answer this! I have not checked yet (haven't had
that drive with me in the last weeks, that's why), but thinking to
what kind of files were being transferred, you're very likely right,
and I just need a bigger drive.

Thanks to everybody who helped!

Marco
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Re: Check your /etc/default/grub, if you use raid 1.

2012-07-31 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 29.07.2012 16:25, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> 
> 
> Am 29.07.2012 16:19, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:02:00 -0400,
>>   Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
>>> There's a long standing combination of two bugs: the list of rd.md.uuid 
>>> boot parameters generated by anaconda for
>>> /etc/default/grub may not include the raid uuid of non-stock partitions 
>>> like /home; and although the ramfs
>>> initscript autodiscovers all raid volumes present, sometimes (not always, 
>>> I'll estimate 5% of the time) if a uuid
>>> is not enumerated in the boot parameters, one of the drives in the raid 1 
>>> volume may not get assembled at boot.
>>
>> My raid info is /etc/mdadm.conf and that is what gets used by dracut when 
>> building an initramfs as far as I can tell.
> 
> 
> in theory
> 
> sam is right and the problem exists since F16
> 
> you have to add all your UUIDs from /etc/mdadm.conf with MD_UUID=
> entries to the kernel line or you are randomly boot with degrared arrays
> 
> it does not help to have the driver in initramfs if the arrays are not s
> tarted correct, it must also be used properly from the system
> 
> maybe tehre are people affected even not recognize their degraded arrays
> until it is too late
> 

I would consider it a dracut bug, if rd.md.uuid is specified and other raid
arrays are assembled in the initramfs.

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/31/2012 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I'll try to think a bit more

I just realized you mentioned "more" and "less" in your original post

less -r outfile

Will show the colors  Is that sufficient?

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Re: question regarding ls w/ colors and capturing to file

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/31/2012 02:48 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Thanks for the very prompt reply. I tried the command and I am not getting 
> what I expect when I open the file. Part of the problem (maybe large part) is 
> that I am opening in vim. What editor should I use for seeing this as all I 
> get in vim is 1) no color and 2) alot of control-M's 

OK.  In my haste, I misunderstood your needs.

What I gave you basically captures the control characters which produce the 
colors in the terminal.  So, if you "cat" the file you'll see the colors.

At the moment, I can't think of what editor would retain the colors.  :-(

I'll try to think a bit more

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