Re: kernel-headers downgrade failure

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/03/2012 02:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2.  However, this has caused a 
>> breakage in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
>>
>> So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.
>>
>> I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back 
>> on version.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=333970
>
> Handy to bookmark:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/
>

Thanks Frank  At least I can download 3.4.6-2 now...  But, I still wonder 
why the downgrade skips over it  ?

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Re: kernel-headers downgrade failure

[Frank Murphy]

On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:

Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2.  However, this has caused a breakage 
in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.

So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.

I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back on 
version.


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=333970

Handy to bookmark:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/

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kernel-headers downgrade failure

[Ed Greshko]

Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2.  However, this has caused a breakage 
in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.

So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.

I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back on 
version.   But, the downgrade resulted in installing kernel-headers-3.3.4-5 and 
I could not find the kernel-headers-3.4.6-2 package anywhere.

I don't think this is "normal" but don't know the best wait to report the 
problem.  Of course I'll report the breakage in 3.5.0-2 but how about the 
missing kernel-headers-3.4.6-2 ?

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Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

[Jatin K]

On 08/03/2012 11:29 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote:
Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this 
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must 
be gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was 
completed and worked. We are talking about the firsts years of the 
90's. Nowadays this OS family has grown a lot. It's like a huge tree 
growing more and more every year.


But the most of people use to call them simply linux. It isn't wrong, 
but linux is in fact, as someone said before, just the kernel, not the 
whole operative system. And well, I think it's sufficiently explained.


Cheers




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Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

[Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus]

Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must be
gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was completed and
worked. We are talking about the firsts years of the 90's. Nowadays this OS
family has grown a lot. It's like a huge tree growing more and more every
year.

But the most of people use to call them simply linux. It isn't wrong, but
linux is in fact, as someone said before, just the kernel, not the whole
operative system. And well, I think it's sufficiently explained.

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Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

[Gordon Messmer]

On 07/29/2012 10:31 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:

GNU is a software collection project founded by Richard Stallman that
provides open source versions of a who lot of programs that work with
the Linux (and other) kernel environment.
The GNU folks, not having a successfully popular kernel component, want
to insist on being acknowledged for their contributions by having folks
refer to the whole combination as GNU/Linux.


That's a load of hooey.  GNU the project provides a collection of Free 
Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.  The goal 
was an implementation of the POSIX operating system specification.


That's where we're at.  GNU/Linux is a POSIX operating system.  Linux is 
an operating system that is a subset of POSIX.  Android, TiVo, and 
numerous routers are common examples of Linux systems.

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Re: Does Spamassassin junk processing work for anyone under evolution?

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:16 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote: 
> Beforwe I file a bugzilla does spamaswsassin Junk processing work for
> anyone under evolution?

I'm not quite sure.  I have evolution-spamassassin and evolution-rspam
installed.  I can filter junk, but I can't enable the spam reporting
plugin.

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Does Spamassassin junk processing work for anyone under evolution?

[Aaron Konstam]

Beforwe I file a bugzilla does spamaswsassin Junk processing work for
anyone under evolution?
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Re: enabliing junk mail in evolution

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 12:22 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 11:12 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > I have ben using junk mail processing in evolution since it appeared in
> > RedHat and/or Fedora Linux. I have never before been unable to enable
> > junk mail processing. But now in F17 it is not working for me. Below are
> > the instructions from the evolution help  to enable Junk mail
> > processing.
> > But when I right click on a message there is no Junk Mail Settings
> > option. Any ideas out there other than ask the evolution list which I
> > will do if I get frustrated enough?
> > 
> > Enabling or Disabling Your Junk Mail List
> >  1. Right-click on a message and select the Junk Mail
> > Settingsoption.
> > 
> >  2. Specify whether you wish to Enable or Disable junk mail
> > handling.
> > 
> >  3. Click on the OK button.
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> Junk mail setting are set mail account by mail account.  Go to
> Edit/Preferences and edit each account listed in the "Mail Accounts"
> section.  It's on the "Receiving Options" tab when you select and
> account and click "edit."
> 
> When I right-click on a mail messages I can mark it as spam but that's
> it (for spam, that is).  I don't recall ever seeing where I can adjust
> settings from there.  It may have been there and I just never noticed.
> I don't see it now.
No spam is controlled under prefernces -> Mail Preferences -> Junk

But does not work. Does it work for anyone out there?


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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/03/2012 05:00 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> Just tried your very reasonable advice.  No change, either when AbiWord
> was down the list or when it was restored to the top.

Just as a test, could you create a new user and see if it fails with a totally 
new setup?

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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Sam Varshavchik]

Patrick Dupre writes:


Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?


You will probably find that it will be much less work to simply run "yum  
groupinstall xfce", and end up with a useful desktop.




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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Germán A. Racca]

On 08/02/2012 05:15 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

On 2012-08-02 22:12, Germán A. Racca wrote:

On 08/02/2012 04:16 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON


Do you mean that you aren't using gnome-shell but classical fallback
mode? If the answer is yes, how can you speak about "extensions"?
Those are for gnome-shell!


I run Forced Fallback Mode ON on the 3 machines, and on one I get the
gnome extensions!



This only means that you are confused, because as I said before 
extensions are only for gnome-shell.


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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 22:15:59 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:

> On 2012-08-02 22:12, Germán A. Racca wrote:
> > On 08/02/2012 04:16 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have 3 machines:
> >> 1) Fedora 16 i686
> >> 2) Fedora 16 x86_64
> >> 3) Fedora 17 x86_64
> >> All forced fallback mode ON
> >
> > Do you mean that you aren't using gnome-shell but classical fallback
> > mode? If the answer is yes, how can you speak about "extensions"?
> > Those are for gnome-shell!
> 
> I run Forced Fallback Mode ON on the 3 machines, and on one I get the 
> gnome extensions!

Are you sure you're not confusing applets with extensions?

# yum list gnome-applet\*
...

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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 04:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/03/2012 01:08 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > If I understand what you want correctly, a screenshot is attached
> > (AbiWord-Info.jpeg).

> Yes, that is what my settings look like  And my system works as
> expected and AbiWord is executed correctly.
> 
> I'm suggesting that you try moving AbiWord down in the order, hit
> apply and try again.  Then move AbiWord back to the top, hit apply and
> try again.

Just tried your very reasonable advice.  No change, either when AbiWord
was down the list or when it was restored to the top.


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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Joe Zeff]

On 08/02/2012 01:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:




I had to face too many issues with the graphic modes in the past (even
recently).
That way, I am at least certain to start a text session properly.
I do not think that it has something to do with the issue.


Probably not, but it's best to be sure.  Thanx for the explanation.
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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Patrick Dupre]

On 2012-08-02 22:23, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/02/2012 12:48 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
However, I run gnome by loading startx (on all machine) and after I 
make

a Atl F2, if I try to run "r", I get an error message
because there are no "r" or "lg" application.
Do you have another option to get the gnome log file?


Why do you use startx instead of simply booting into what used to be
called runlevel 5?  I presume you have a good reason, and although
it's not likely, it might even be significant.


I had to face too many issues with the graphic modes in the past (even 
recently).

That way, I am at least certain to start a text session properly.
I do not think that it has something to do with the issue.

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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/03/2012 01:08 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> If I understand what you want correctly, a screenshot is attached
> (AbiWord-Info.jpeg).

Yes, that is what my settings look like  And my system works as expected 
and AbiWord is executed correctly.

I'm suggesting that you try moving AbiWord down in the order, hit apply and try 
again.  Then move AbiWord back to the top, hit apply and try again.

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Re: [389-users] dirsrv-admin: Failed to install a local copy of 389-admin-1.1.jar or one of its supporting files

[Arnold Werschky]

*That's the correct error, but it looks like slapd is being run by the ldap
user:*

ldap  5370  0.0  0.7 2670848 27996 ?   Sl   12:14   0:05
/usr/sbin/ns-slapd -D /etc/dirsrv/slapd-ldap- -i
/var/run/dirsrv/slapd-ldap-.pid -w
/var/run/dirsrv/slapd-ldap-.startpid

*Permissions of the /usr/share/dirsrv/html/java/ directory are as follows:*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   35001 Aug  8  2011 389-admin-1.1.8_en.jar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  181013 Aug  8  2011 389-admin-1.1.8.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  22 Aug  1 17:15 389-admin-1.1_en.jar ->
389-admin-1.1.8_en.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 Aug  1 17:15 389-admin-1.1.jar ->
389-admin-1.1.8.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  22 Aug  1 17:15 389-admin_en.jar ->
389-admin-1.1.8_en.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 Aug  1 17:15 389-admin.jar ->
389-admin-1.1.8.jar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   71571 Jun 21  2011 389-ds-1.2.6_en.jar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1469522 Jun 21  2011 389-ds-1.2.6.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 Aug  1 17:15 389-ds-1.2_en.jar ->
389-ds-1.2.6_en.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 Aug  1 17:15 389-ds-1.2.jar ->
389-ds-1.2.6.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 Aug  1 17:15 389-ds_en.jar ->
389-ds-1.2.6_en.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 Aug  1 17:15 389-ds.jar -> 389-ds-1.2.6.jar


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Chun Tat David Chu <
beyonddc.stor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What error are you seeing?
>
> If the error is "Failed to install a local copy of 389-admin-1.1.jar or
> one of its supporting files" then I have seen that before.
>
> What user is running the slapd process?  If it is root then it is wrong
> and should be something else.
>
> I had this problem previously and the reason was because the slapd process
> was running as a wrong user.
>
> - dc
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Arnold Werschky wrote:
>
>> Finally got the 389 server running over SSLbut some things had to
>> manually configured.
>>
>> Now I'm able to connect over the 389-console, but when I click on the
>> Administration Server I get this error.
>>
>> Same error on the Directory Server.
>>
>> The rpms for console and admin are installed.
>>
>> I ran setup-ds-admin.pl -u as suggested in an earlier thread, and that
>> didn't help.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks!
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boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

[Dave Burns]

Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
"linux text" at the "boot prompt".

The fc17 install guide
(http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
displayed. "

If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
linux".

If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
from starting daemons.

Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do wrong?
thanks,
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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Joe Zeff]

On 08/02/2012 12:48 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

However, I run gnome by loading startx (on all machine) and after I make
a Atl F2, if I try to run "r", I get an error message
because there are no "r" or "lg" application.
Do you have another option to get the gnome log file?


Why do you use startx instead of simply booting into what used to be 
called runlevel 5?  I presume you have a good reason, and although it's 
not likely, it might even be significant.

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smart error

[Steven Stern]

I've been looking at /var/log/messages and this has come up several times:

 udisksd[1635]: Error performing housekeeping for drive
/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/WDC_WD1600JD_00HBB0_WD_WCAL93183730:
Error updating SMART data: sk_disk_smart_status: Input/output error
(udisks-error-quark, 0)


Is it anything meaningful?

Data from smartctl:

$ sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb
smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [i686-linux-3.5.0-2.fc17.i686.PAE] (local
build)
Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Caviar SE Serial ATA
Device Model: WDC WD1600JD-00HBB0
Serial Number:WD-WCAL93183730
Firmware Version: 08.02D08
User Capacity:160,041,885,696 bytes [160 GB]
Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:Thu Aug  2 15:16:23 2012 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x84) Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting 
command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0) The previous self-test routine
completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:( 4467) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported.
No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:(  60) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:  (0x003f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Patrick Dupre]

On 2012-08-02 22:12, Germán A. Racca wrote:

On 08/02/2012 04:16 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON


Do you mean that you aren't using gnome-shell but classical fallback
mode? If the answer is yes, how can you speak about "extensions"?
Those are for gnome-shell!


I run Forced Fallback Mode ON on the 3 machines, and on one I get the 
gnome extensions!




HTH,
Germán.



Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
It means that I can "add to panel" and select
in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU 
Frequency

Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,


The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character panel, 
CPU

Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are missing.

I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages on 
all

the 3 machines:
On 1)
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

on 2) (and 3))
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch


Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?

Thank.





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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Patrick Dupre]

On 2012-08-02 22:00, Jack Craig wrote:

sounds like your desktop isnt working properly.

when i do alt-f2, i get a small box mid-screen where the cmd is
input. if your access to gnome shell doesnt work, id not expect
the rest of gnome extensions to work either.


OK, I can run "R", but not, lg or LG. Is it te R from R-core?


is there a reason for your manual desktop startup? just curious...




On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:


Thank for your consideration.

However, I run gnome by loading startx (on all machine) and after I
make a Atl F2, if I try to run "r", I get an error message
because there are no "r" or "lg" application.
Do you have another option to get the gnome log file?

Thank.


i found recent debug info in gnome debug, try..

ALT-F2
r

that will try to restart gnome shell, then

ALT-F2
lg

will dump the log (error msg)

hth, ...

 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Patrick Dupre
 wrote:


Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON

Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
It means that I can "add to panel" and select
in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU
Frequency Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,


The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character
panel, CPU Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are
missing.

I have the impression that I installed the same relevant
packages
on all the 3 machines:
On 1)
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

on 2) (and 3))
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch


gnome-shell-extension-alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

gnome-shell-extension-systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?

Thank.

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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Germán A. Racca]

On 08/02/2012 04:16 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON


Do you mean that you aren't using gnome-shell but classical fallback 
mode? If the answer is yes, how can you speak about "extensions"? Those 
are for gnome-shell!


HTH,
Germán.



Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
It means that I can "add to panel" and select
in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU Frequency
Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,


The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character panel, CPU
Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are missing.

I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages on all
the 3 machines:
On 1)
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

on 2) (and 3))
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch


Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?

Thank.





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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Jack Craig]

sounds like your desktop isnt working properly.

when i do alt-f2, i get a small box mid-screen where the cmd is
input. if your access to gnome shell doesnt work, i'd not expect
the rest of gnome extensions to work either.

is there a reason for your manual desktop startup? just curious...

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Thank for your consideration.
>
> However, I run gnome by loading startx (on all machine) and after I make a
> Atl F2, if I try to run "r", I get an error message
> because there are no "r" or "lg" application.
> Do you have another option to get the gnome log file?
>
> Thank.
>
>  i found recent debug info in gnome debug, try..
>>
>> ALT-F2
>> r
>>
>> that will try to restart gnome shell, then
>>
>> ALT-F2
>> lg
>>
>> will dump the log (error msg)
>>
>> hth, ...
>>
>>  On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Patrick Dupre > [6]> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I have 3 machines:
>>> 1) Fedora 16 i686
>>> 2) Fedora 16 x86_64
>>> 3) Fedora 17 x86_64
>>> All forced fallback mode ON
>>>
>>> Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
>>> It means that I can "add to panel" and select
>>> in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU
>>> Frequency Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,
>>> 
>>>
>>> The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character
>>> panel, CPU Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are
>>> missing.
>>>
>>> I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages
>>> on all the 3 machines:
>>> On 1)
>>> nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.**fc16.x86_64
>>> gnome-shell-extension-user-**theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-**alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-common-**3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>>
>>> on 2) (and 3))
>>> nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.**fc16.i686
>>> gnome-shell-extension-user-**theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-**alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-common-**3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-**alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-**2.fc16.noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-**systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-drive-**menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>> gnome-shell-extension-places-**menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>>>
>>> Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
>>> Would you help?
>>>
>>> Thank.
>>>
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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Patrick Dupre]

Thank for your consideration.

However, I run gnome by loading startx (on all machine) and after I 
make a Atl F2, if I try to run "r", I get an error message

because there are no "r" or "lg" application.
Do you have another option to get the gnome log file?

Thank.


i found recent debug info in gnome debug, try..

ALT-F2
r

that will try to restart gnome shell, then

ALT-F2
lg

will dump the log (error msg)

hth, ...

 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:


Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON

Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
It means that I can "add to panel" and select
in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU
Frequency Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,


The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character
panel, CPU Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are
missing.

I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages
on all the 3 machines:
On 1)
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

on 2) (and 3))
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?

Thank.

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Re: gnome 3 extensions

[Jack Craig]

i found recent debug info in gnome debug, try..

ALT-F2
r

that will try to restart gnome shell, then

ALT-F2
lg

will dump the log (error msg)

hth, ...

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have 3 machines:
> 1) Fedora 16 i686
> 2) Fedora 16 x86_64
> 3) Fedora 17 x86_64
> All forced fallback mode ON
>
> Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
> It means that I can "add to panel" and select
> in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU Frequency
> Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,
> 
>
> The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character panel, CPU
> Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are missing.
>
> I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages on all
> the 3 machines:
> On 1)
> nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.**fc16.x86_64
> gnome-shell-extension-user-**theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-**alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-common-**3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>
> on 2) (and 3))
> nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.**fc16.i686
> gnome-shell-extension-user-**theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-**alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-common-**3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-**alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-**2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-**systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.**noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-drive-**menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-shell-extension-places-**menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
>
>
> Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
> Would you help?
>
> Thank.
>
>
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gnome 3 extensions

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

I have 3 machines:
1) Fedora 16 i686
2) Fedora 16 x86_64
3) Fedora 17 x86_64
All forced fallback mode ON

Only one 1) works fine regarding with the extensions
It means that I can "add to panel" and select
in a list of options starting with Character panel, Clock, CPU 
Frequency Scaling Factor, ... ,System Monitor,



The 2 other ones, I just cannot do it, For example, Character panel, 
CPU Frequency Scaling Factor, System Monitor options are missing.


I have the impression that I installed the same relevant packages on 
all the 3 machines:

On 1)
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch

on 2) (and 3))
nautilus-extensions-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-common-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-alternative-status-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-systemMonitor-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
gnome-shell-extension-places-menu-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch


Thus, I do not know how to debug the issues.
Would you help?

Thank.


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Re: sssd died after boot

[Stephen Gallagher]

On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 18:10 +0200, Tiziana Manfroni wrote:
> Hi, I have a host with RHEL6.3.
> After boot sssd  crash and in /var/log/sssd/sssd.log
> (Mon Jul 23 17:56:56 2012) [sssd] [monitor_quit] (0x0010): Monitor received 
> Terminated: terminating children
> (Mon Jul 23 17:58:54 2012) [sssd] [mt_svc_exit_handler] (0x0010): Process 
> [nss], definitely stopped!
> 
> If I run init script on command line sssd starts, but sometimes it dies also. 
> Do you have any idea?
> 

More information is required. Please add
debug_level = 7 

to the [sssd], [nss] and [domain/labinfomat] sections, restart SSSD and
then look at the /var/log/sssd/* logs


> my /etc/sssd/sssd/conf:
> [domain/labinfomat]
> 
> cache_credentials = True
> krb5_store_password_if_offline = True
> ipa_domain = labinfomat
> id_provider = ipa
> auth_provider = ipa
> access_provider = ipa
> chpass_provider = ipa
> ipa_dyndns_update = True
> ipa_server = _srv_, archimede.labinfomat
> ldap_tls_cacert = /etc/ipa/ca.crt
> [sssd]
> services = nss, pam, ssh
> config_file_version = 2
> 
> domains = labinfomat
> [nss]
> 
> 
> [pam]
> 
> [sudo]
> 
> [autofs]
> 
> [ssh]
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>   Tiziana
> 
> 
>
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Re: Drawers for gnome 3.x

[Jack Craig]

Thx Shawn,

I was off in the weeds, i cleaned up my mess and followed your instruction;
Viola!!!

Thanks!!

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Shawn Badger  wrote:

> I installed by going to that link in Firefox and clicking the On
> toggle. I didn't have any issues installing it with that method, but I
> would like a CLI way to install the extensions though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Jack Craig 
> wrote:
> > Hey Shawn,
> >
> > This looks cool and I'd like to tr it.
> > after expanding teh zip file, creating a folder,
> > i ran gnome-tweak-tool, but no joy.
> >
> > Any pointer to a more install for dummies reference?
> >
> > Thx!
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Shawn Badger  wrote:
> >>
> >> I am using the Connection Manager extension and have been very happy
> >> with it so far.
> >>
> >> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/45/connection-manager/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dario Lesca  wrote:
> >> > Hi, there is an apps or a gnome shell extension for Fedora like this?
> >> > https://launchpad.net/drawers
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> > (Inviato dal mio Fedora Linux)
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Re: Drawers for gnome 3.x

[Shawn Badger]

I installed by going to that link in Firefox and clicking the On
toggle. I didn't have any issues installing it with that method, but I
would like a CLI way to install the extensions though.



On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Jack Craig  wrote:
> Hey Shawn,
>
> This looks cool and I'd like to tr it.
> after expanding teh zip file, creating a folder,
> i ran gnome-tweak-tool, but no joy.
>
> Any pointer to a more install for dummies reference?
>
> Thx!
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Shawn Badger  wrote:
>>
>> I am using the Connection Manager extension and have been very happy
>> with it so far.
>>
>> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/45/connection-manager/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dario Lesca  wrote:
>> > Hi, there is an apps or a gnome shell extension for Fedora like this?
>> > https://launchpad.net/drawers
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it
>> > (Inviato dal mio Fedora Linux)
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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

[Rick Stevens]

On 08/02/2012 04:28 AM, Heinz Diehl issued this missive::

On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote:


So, this is a processor bug? I would expect that Linux should detect these
automatically...


If I remember all correctly, there were two mainly independend issues
with C1E in Linux, one which is processor-related, and one
BIOS-related. Processor-bugs are adressed by loading fixes via
microcode updates at boot-time. Check your dmesg output if this is the
case with your CPU. There should be something like that (laptop with i5 cpu):

[root@wildsau ~]# dmesg | grep microcode
microcode: CPU0 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU0 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU1 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU1 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU2 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU2 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU3 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU3 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 , Peter 
Oruba


So, my AMD 920 cpu is not only slow, it has also some errata incompatible
with Fedora. Nice :D


Nearly all CPUs have errata :-)

The problem you encounter is not a Fedora one, it's most likely a
BIOS-problem, or the E400 routines in the kernel doesn't get triggered
by your hardware. It's impossible for me to see where the problem
finally originates in your case. The AMD people are generally cute ones and 
really
interested in such thing, so if you care to dig into this further, you
could consider mailing Borislav Petkov directly
(borislav.pet...@amd.com).

If I remember that right, there was a fix pending around april/may
2011 for this, and a quick look into process.c shows that the E400
case is taken care of by the kernel. Look into your dmesg output and
boot.log (and other logfiles: /var/log/messages etc.) for "AMD E400
aware idle routine" or something similar/related.


I believe the message is this:

[0.002484] using AMD E400 aware idle routine

This is on a machine that comes up with an "AMD Processor model unknown"
message from "cat /proc/cpuinfo" (it's a Shuttle FN78S mobo and no, I
can't recall the CPU I stuffed into it other than it's a dual-core AMD
in an AM2 socket).

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Re: Drawers for gnome 3.x

[Jack Craig]

missing uuid match in ./connectionmana...@ciancio.net
is found in the log. this empty directory was to be created, but has no
content...

???


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Jack Craig wrote:

> Hey Shawn,
>
> This looks cool and I'd like to tr it.
> after expanding teh zip file, creating a folder,
> i ran gnome-tweak-tool, but no joy.
>
> Any pointer to a more *install for dummies* reference?
>
> Thx!
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Shawn Badger  wrote:
>
>> I am using the Connection Manager extension and have been very happy
>> with it so far.
>>
>> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/45/connection-manager/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dario Lesca  wrote:
>> > Hi, there is an apps or a gnome shell extension for Fedora like this?
>> > https://launchpad.net/drawers
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it
>> > (Inviato dal mio Fedora Linux)
>> >
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Re: enabliing junk mail in evolution

[Mark C. Allman]

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 11:12 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I have ben using junk mail processing in evolution since it appeared in
> RedHat and/or Fedora Linux. I have never before been unable to enable
> junk mail processing. But now in F17 it is not working for me. Below are
> the instructions from the evolution help  to enable Junk mail
> processing.
> But when I right click on a message there is no Junk Mail Settings
> option. Any ideas out there other than ask the evolution list which I
> will do if I get frustrated enough?
> 
> Enabling or Disabling Your Junk Mail List
>  1. Right-click on a message and select the Junk Mail
> Settingsoption.
> 
>  2. Specify whether you wish to Enable or Disable junk mail
> handling.
> 
>  3. Click on the OK button.
> 
> 
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> 

Junk mail setting are set mail account by mail account.  Go to
Edit/Preferences and edit each account listed in the "Mail Accounts"
section.  It's on the "Receiving Options" tab when you select and
account and click "edit."

When I right-click on a mail messages I can mark it as spam but that's
it (for spam, that is).  I don't recall ever seeing where I can adjust
settings from there.  It may have been there and I just never noticed.
I don't see it now.

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enabliing junk mail in evolution

[Aaron Konstam]

I have ben using junk mail processing in evolution since it appeared in
RedHat and/or Fedora Linux. I have never before been unable to enable
junk mail processing. But now in F17 it is not working for me. Below are
the instructions from the evolution help  to enable Junk mail
processing.
But when I right click on a message there is no Junk Mail Settings
option. Any ideas out there other than ask the evolution list which I
will do if I get frustrated enough?

Enabling or Disabling Your Junk Mail List
 1. Right-click on a message and select the Junk Mail
Settingsoption.

 2. Specify whether you wish to Enable or Disable junk mail
handling.

 3. Click on the OK button.


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Re: automount in fedora 17 SOLVED

[Braden McDaniel]

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 22:04 +0200, paul van der meij wrote:
> The problem was that the firewall on my FC14 fileserver had port 111
> (sunrpc) blocked.
> The mount on my FC17 client does not use sunrpc, but the automount
> does.
> After allowing port 111 everything worked fine, with everything
> default in the autofs control files, so no extra nfs parameters.

I just came across this message after having lived with automount (of my
NFS4 shares) not working on my F17 box for several weeks.  Sure enough,
opening this port on my server's firewall fixed the problem.  But, why
should this be required for NFS4?  Automounting in Fedora 16 clients
certainly doesn't require it.

I've filed bug 845313, which hopefully will yield a definitive answer.

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RE: was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership

[Patrick Kobly]

IANAL, and I suspect you are not either.  YMMV - employment law and 
intellectual property law differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

-Original message-
From:   Dave Ihnat 
Sent:   Thu 02-08-2012 07:43
Subject:Re: was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership
To: Community support for Fedora users ; 
> Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 07:26:02PM +1000--Roger 
> (are...@bigpond.com) said:
> > Er... nobody can take ownership over work that you have written,
> > Your work is your own, regardless of whether they own the language
> > you write it in or not.
> 
> True, unless:
> 
>   1.  You contractually grant it to another.  It's quite common to either
>   take contracts or sign employment agreements that grant everything
> you produce for a client or employer as a "work for hire".

In some jurisdictions, this is assumed to be the case (with respect to work 
conducted for the employer / client) unless your contract / employment 
agreement explicitly retains rights.




> > Ad for ownership, I think it depends on circumstances. I have heard
> > instances of when one writes a work while employed by or under
> > contract to a company then they do not own their work, the company
> > does, even if the work was done on unpaid holidays or at home during
> > unpaid after hours.
> 
> This used to be a common restrictive clause in employment contracts.
> I haven't seen such tried in a mort of years. 

Because in some jurisdictions, these clauses were found to be unenforceable in 
employment agreements (as they pertained to work produced that was not for the 
employer).

> HOWEVER, make sure not
> to sign any such agreement, and don't ever use company resources or time
> to do any development you want to keep.  (And, of course, never use any
> information you could only have gotten from your employer or contractee.)

Surely wise advice.  Also sage advice - consult a lawyer if you have doubts 
about your rights.

> > If, say a programmer or developer is employed by a company or
> > organisation and they write code and say develop a site in their own
> > time, using open source applications, and contribute the whole thing
> > to Open source or under GPL, etc, can the company/organisation stake
> > a claim?
> 
> Only if you signed an agreement stating such.

And even then, not necessarily so.

> > If a vast number of snippets from a vast number of coders are
> > donated free of encumbrance to enhance a kernel or app, how does
> > that make the whole (Linux) responsible for copyright violation when
> > no one entity owns it?
> 
> None of the snippets that are unencumbered are in trouble, _unless_ they
> violate a copyright.

And if they do, it's generally the entity "distributing" the infringing 
material who bears the bulk of the liability.  Which is why many projects 
(including the kernel) go to great lengths to establish attribution and do 
their due diligence to ensure that contributed code is not encumbered.
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Re: was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/02/2012 07:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> Hi, you have completely destroyed the attributions here, making it
> pretty hard to follow the conversation.

Which is good.  Since this is kind of useless on this mailing list.

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Re: criminal use of linux

[Digimer]

On 08/02/2012 01:37 AM, Richard Vickery wrote:

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Joe Wulf mailto:joe_w...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Correct... Micro$loth has never passed up an opportunity to bully.


*From:* Digimer mailto:li...@alteeve.ca>>

*To:* Community support for Fedora users
mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:54 PM

*Subject:* Re: criminal use of linux


Legal fights with companies sitting on the kind of cash MS has is a
nearly impossible battle to win, unless you can match them. So
this has
nothing to do with facts and more to do with bullying.

Digimer


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As one who studies laws, and the abuse of political power, I wouldn't
worry about this; there is absolutely nothing MS can do - it's just a
mere scare tactic.


My take on these is that the process is used as the punishment; Guilt be 
damned. Microsoft doesn't have to win, they just have to out-last their 
victim's legal defence fund.


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Re: Drawers for gnome 3.x

[Jack Craig]

Hey Shawn,

This looks cool and I'd like to tr it.
after expanding teh zip file, creating a folder,
i ran gnome-tweak-tool, but no joy.

Any pointer to a more *install for dummies* reference?

Thx!

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Shawn Badger  wrote:

> I am using the Connection Manager extension and have been very happy
> with it so far.
>
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/45/connection-manager/
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dario Lesca  wrote:
> > Hi, there is an apps or a gnome shell extension for Fedora like this?
> > https://launchpad.net/drawers
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it
> > (Inviato dal mio Fedora Linux)
> >
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Re: criminal use of linux [not]

[M. Fioretti]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 12:27:25 PM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 2 August 2012 11:36, M. Fioretti  wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 08:13:33 AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> >
> >> licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your
> >> compiler license
> >
> > Ian,
> > could you provide some concrete example of this?
> >
> 
> This is the from the Visual C++ Express 2010 license:
> '2.   ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.
> Distributable Code. The software contains code that you are permitted
> to distribute in programs you develop if you comply with the terms
> below.

as far as I understand from this quote, this is not the compiler
license, but is (regardless of where it is written) the license of
those bunches of code. But it's not important, I'll find and read more
myself now that I have a precise reference, thanks!

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Re: [389-users] dirsrv-admin startup issues with SSL/TLS configuration [solved]

[Arnold Werschky]

This issue was solved with a total reinstall.  I believe I had messed up
the configuration somehow with trying to install multiple times.

In addition, the script should not be corrected, as it worked just fine.

Thank you very much for your assistance, and patience.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Rich Megginson  wrote:

>  On 08/01/2012 10:27 AM, Arnold Werschky wrote:
>
> As an aside, I can get rid of the errors on the setupssl2.sh script by
> making the following change...but I don't know if its a change I should be
> making.
>
> Yes, that looks correct.  Not sure when/how that was broken.
>
>
>  [root@ldap ~]# diff setupssl2.sh setupssl2.sh.orig
> 185c185
> < pk12util -d $secdir -n server-cert -i $secdir/adminserver.p12 -w
> $secdir/pwdfile.txt -k $secdir/pwdfile.txt
> ---
> > pk12util -d $assecdir -n server-cert -i $secdir/adminserver.p12 -w
> $secdir/pwdfile.txt -k $secdir/pwdfile.txt
>
>  *
> results of commands requested:
> *
> root@ldap ~]# ls -al /etc/dirsrv/slapd-*
> total 472
> drwxrwx--- 3 ldap ldap  4096 Jul 31 15:01 .
> drwxrwxr-x 7 root ldap  4096 Jul 31 14:03 ..
> -r 1 ldap ldap  2114 Jul 31 14:36 adminserver.p12
> -rw-r--r-- 1 ldap root   647 Jul 31 14:36 cacert.asc
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap 65536 Jul 31 16:23 cert8.db
> -r--r- 1 ldap ldap  3595 Jul 31 13:19 certmap.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap 71692 Jul 31 15:01 dse.ldif
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap 71174 Jul 31 15:01 dse.ldif.bak
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap 71917 Jul 31 15:00 dse.ldif.startOK
> -r--r- 1 ldap ldap 32836 Jul 31 13:19 dse_original.ldif
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap 16384 Jul 31 16:23 key3.db
> -r 1 ldap ldap41 Jul 31 14:36 noise.txt
> -rw-rw 1 ldap ldap 65536 Jul 31 15:00 orig-cert8.db
> -rw-rw 1 ldap ldap 16384 Jul 31 15:00 orig-key3.db
> -r 1 ldap ldap67 Jul 31 14:36 pin.txt
> -r 1 ldap ldap41 Jul 31 14:36 pwdfile.txt
> drwxrwx--- 2 ldap ldap  4096 Jul 31 15:01 schema
> -rw-rw 1 ldap ldap 16384 Jul 31 15:01 secmod.db
> -r--r- 1 ldap ldap  5366 Jul 31 13:19 slapd-collations.conf
> [root@ldap ~]# ls -al /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv
> total 196
> drwx-- 2 ldap root  4096 Jul 31 15:27 .
> drwxrwxr-x 7 root ldap  4096 Jul 31 14:03 ..
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap   498 Jul 31 14:36 adm.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root40 Jul 31 13:19 admpw
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3936 Mar 27 08:33 admserv.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root 65536 Jul 31 16:05 cert8.db
> -rw--- 1 ldap ldap  4467 Jul 31 14:36 console.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root  4467 Jul 27 18:42 console.conf.rpmsave
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26302 Mar 27 08:33 httpd.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root 16384 Jul 31 16:05 key3.db
> -rw--- 1 ldap root 13343 Jul 31 13:19 local.conf
> -r 1 ldap ldap  4535 Jul 31 14:36 nss.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root  4535 Jul 27 16:20 nss.conf.rpmsave
> -rw--- 1 ldap root50 Jul 31 15:27 password.conf
> -rw--- 1 ldap root 16384 Jul 27 14:21 secmod.db
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:
>
>>   On 08/01/2012 08:17 AM, Arnold Werschky wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>>  I'm trying to set up a new install LDAP server with self signed TLS/SSL
>> on CentOS 6.2
>>
>>  My install using setup-ds-admin.pl was typical, and I was able to login
>> to the 389-Console after installation.
>>
>>  At that point I downloaded the script from richm :
>> https://github.com/richm/scripts/blob/master/setupssl2.sh
>>
>>  I received two errors during its run (full output is at the bottom).
>>
>>  pk12util: Failed to authenticate to PKCS11 slot: The security password
>> entered is incorrect.
>> pk12util: Failed to authenticate to "NSS User Private Key and Certificate
>> Services": The user pressed cancel.
>>
>>
>>  start-ds-admin now fails to start, with the following error messages in
>> /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error
>>
>>  [Tue Jul 31 16:34:09 2012] [error] Password for slot internal is
>> incorrect.
>> [Tue Jul 31 16:34:09 2012] [error] NSS initialization failed. Certificate
>> database: /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv.
>> [Tue Jul 31 16:34:09 2012] [error] SSL Library Error: -8177 The security
>> password entered is incorrect:
>>
>>
>>  I've searched for the SSL Library error to no avail.  If anyone can
>> give me a starting point I'd appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>> setupssl2.sh output
>> ***
>>
>>  Using /etc/dirsrv/slapd-ldap-x as sec directory
>> No CA certificate found - will create new one
>> No Server Cert found - will create new one
>> No Admin Server Cert found - will create new one
>> Creating password file for security token
>> Creating noise file
>> Creating new key and cert db
>> Creating encryption key for CA
>>
>>
>>  Generating key.  This may take a few moments...
>>
>>  Creating sel

Re: criminal use of linux

[Jack Craig]

And as such, their slide into historic oblivion will be met with joy from
many...

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Richard Vickery <
richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:
>
>> Correct... Micro$loth has never passed up an opportunity to bully.
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Digimer 
>>
>> *To:* Community support for Fedora users 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:54 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: criminal use of linux
>>  
>>
>> Legal fights with companies sitting on the kind of cash MS has is a
>> nearly impossible battle to win, unless you can match them. So this has
>> nothing to do with facts and more to do with bullying.
>>
>> Digimer
>>
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> As one who studies laws, and the abuse of political power, I wouldn't
> worry about this; there is absolutely nothing MS can do - it's just a mere
> scare tactic.
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Re: was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership

[Dave Ihnat]

Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 07:26:02PM +1000--Roger 
(are...@bigpond.com) said:
> Er... nobody can take ownership over work that you have written,
> Your work is your own, regardless of whether they own the language
> you write it in or not.

True, unless:

  1.  You contractually grant it to another.  It's quite common to either
  take contracts or sign employment agreements that grant everything
  you produce for a client or employer as a "work for hire".
  
  2.  It is also quite common to sign an agreement, usually as a clause in
  the general contract or employment agreement, that you will cooperate
  in the transfer of any patents awarded in the course of your work to
  your contractor or employer.

> Where is it stated that Micros[hi]t owns C++? when did this happen?

Absolutely bogus.  C++ was developed by Bjarne Stroustrup while at BTL.

> (though licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending
> on your compiler license - in exactly the same way some people call
> GPL infectious).

It's more common that linking in copyrighted binaries will contaminate your
code.  This has not, however, been a common restriction since the GNU
library wars.

> Ad for ownership, I think it depends on circumstances. I have heard
> instances of when one writes a work while employed by or under
> contract to a company then they do not own their work, the company
> does, even if the work was done on unpaid holidays or at home during
> unpaid after hours.

This used to be a common restrictive clause in employment contracts.
I haven't seen such tried in a mort of years.  HOWEVER, make sure not
to sign any such agreement, and don't ever use company resources or time
to do any development you want to keep.  (And, of course, never use any
information you could only have gotten from your employer or contractee.)

> If, say a programmer or developer is employed by a company or
> organisation and they write code and say develop a site in their own
> time, using open source applications, and contribute the whole thing
> to Open source or under GPL, etc, can the company/organisation stake
> a claim?

Only if you signed an agreement stating such.

> Also, if a programmer writes code snippets and contributes snippets
> to a larger unit, for instance, a kernel or app. From the above
> comment, he still owns the code snippet.

You do, unless you release ownership.

> If a vast number of snippets from a vast number of coders are
> donated free of encumbrance to enhance a kernel or app, how does
> that make the whole (Linux) responsible for copyright violation when
> no one entity owns it?

None of the snippets that are unencumbered are in trouble, _unless_ they
violate a copyright.

> I'm probably waffling on here but it seems that there's more going
> on under the carpet than we may be aware of with MS. Mentioning over
> 200 instances yet I see no one discussing or displaying code
> comparisons to show that it is true. Surely it is incumbent on the
> complaintant to provide proof.

Not unless and until they actually take action.  There's no advantage to
Microsoft in actually providing evidence of what they believe has been
infringed.  If they do so, then developers can take steps to rewrite
and remove the offending code.  If they don't, everything is suspect
of being tainted, and (they can hope) corporations are leery of using
potentially tainted code without indemnification.

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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/02/2012 07:44 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 15:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I can recreate your issue if I move Firefox to the top and hit apply.
>> If AbiWord is a the top.  Why not move it, hit Apply, then move it
>> back, and hit Apply.
> I can't imagine any reason why you'd want Firefox to be in the open-with
> list, at all.  I'd remove it.

It is down on the list, so it isn't a bother.
>
> I can imagine how it might get there, if you downloaded such a file, at
> some stage, and picked an option to try and open it with Firefox.
>

No.  This is a test VM that hasn't been doing much of anything...and certainly 
no downloading.  As a matter of fact, I'd not even used firefox on it.

So, somewhere along the way an install process put in the definitions.   I 
really don't care to find out what did it.  I'd be more interested in fixing 
the OP's problem.

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Re: Rereate /etc/crypttab ?

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 08/01/2012 07:44 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Though a rawhide vm.
> More of a general question.
> 
> I can only boot to emergency shell in the vm itself
> or if netinstall.iso cd is used.
> and systmed is mounted under "chroot /mnt/sysimage"
> all commands fail due to "running  in chroot: ignoring request"
> 
> Looking at:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/apcs04s06.html
> 
> Finding it difficult without gpm (mouse console)
> to help with copy and paste.
> 
> Any one handed ideas?

As regards how to copy&paste in a console without gpm, you can try
shell tricks like:

the_command_which_prints_something_you_want | grep more_or_less_the_good_part 
>>/etc/crypttab

then you only have to delete the garbage from /etc/crypttab and rearrange
things (with a text editor).


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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Tim]

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 15:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I can recreate your issue if I move Firefox to the top and hit apply.
> If AbiWord is a the top.  Why not move it, hit Apply, then move it
> back, and hit Apply.

I can't imagine any reason why you'd want Firefox to be in the open-with
list, at all.  I'd remove it.

I can imagine how it might get there, if you downloaded such a file, at
some stage, and picked an option to try and open it with Firefox.

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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

[Heinz Diehl]

On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote: 

> So, this is a processor bug? I would expect that Linux should detect these
> automatically...

If I remember all correctly, there were two mainly independend issues
with C1E in Linux, one which is processor-related, and one
BIOS-related. Processor-bugs are adressed by loading fixes via
microcode updates at boot-time. Check your dmesg output if this is the
case with your CPU. There should be something like that (laptop with i5 cpu):

[root@wildsau ~]# dmesg | grep microcode
microcode: CPU0 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU0 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU1 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU1 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU2 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU2 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: CPU3 sig=0x20655, pf=0x10, revision=0x2
microcode: CPU3 updated to revision 0x3, date = 2011-09-01
microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 , Peter 
Oruba

> So, my AMD 920 cpu is not only slow, it has also some errata incompatible
> with Fedora. Nice :D

Nearly all CPUs have errata :-)

The problem you encounter is not a Fedora one, it's most likely a
BIOS-problem, or the E400 routines in the kernel doesn't get triggered
by your hardware. It's impossible for me to see where the problem
finally originates in your case. The AMD people are generally cute ones and 
really
interested in such thing, so if you care to dig into this further, you
could consider mailing Borislav Petkov directly
(borislav.pet...@amd.com).

If I remember that right, there was a fix pending around april/may
2011 for this, and a quick look into process.c shows that the E400
case is taken care of by the kernel. Look into your dmesg output and
boot.log (and other logfiles: /var/log/messages etc.) for "AMD E400 
aware idle routine" or something similar/related.

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Re: criminal use of linux [not]

[Ian Malone]

On 2 August 2012 11:36, M. Fioretti  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 08:13:33 AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>
>> licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your
>> compiler license
>
> Ian,
> could you provide some concrete example of this?
>

This is the from the Visual C++ Express 2010 license:
'2. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.
Distributable Code. The software contains code that you are permitted
to distribute in programs you develop if you comply with the terms
below.
'a. Right to Use and Distribute. The code and text files listed below
are “Distributable Code...'

MS don't really apply many restrictions on how you distribute those
components, beyond only for use on Windows (and the usual preserve
copyright notices, trademarks etc.). In the same way binaries that
link GPL or LGPL need to comply with those licenses. In days gone past
I remember seeing free versions of compilers that prohibited
commercial distribution of compiled code, but it no longer seems
common practice. (And note, that's not based on claiming ownership of
the original code, it is instead dependent on the licence by which you
use the compiler to generate output.)

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Re: was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership

[Ian Malone]

On 2 August 2012 10:26, Roger  wrote:

Hi, you have completely destroyed the attributions here, making it
pretty hard to follow the conversation.

Richard Vickery wrote:
> Er... nobody can take ownership over work that you have written, Your work
> is your own, regardless of whether they own the language you write it in or
> not. Where is it stated that Micros[hi]t owns C++? when did this happen? You
> can't own something in the free domain? This is like saying that I own
> English and you can't use it unless I say so - it's stupid and ridiculous.
>

I replied:
> Indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B C++ has nothing to do with
> Microsoft. Even in C#, which they developed and where they own key
> components of the run-time, code you write belongs to you (though licensing
> of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your compiler license -
> in exactly the same way some people call GPL infectious).
>

You replied:
>
> Thanks Richard.


>
> Ad for ownership, I think it depends on circumstances. I have heard
> instances of when one writes a work while employed by or under contract to a
> company then they do not own their work, the company does, even if the work
> was done on unpaid holidays or at home during unpaid after hours.
>

Commission work (which includes being employed to create code) belongs
to the person or organisation doing the commissioning. Companies
claiming ownership of work done outside working hours is pretty
controversial, but employees in that situation need to be careful
about not using work resources to do it which can muddy the situation.


> If a vast number of snippets from a vast number of coders are donated free
> of encumbrance to enhance a kernel or app, how does that make the whole
> (Linux) responsible for copyright violation when no one entity owns it?
>

The story in question has nothing to do with copyright, but rather
software patents.

> I'm probably waffling on here but it seems that there's more going on under
> the carpet than we may be aware of with MS. Mentioning over 200 instances
> yet I see no one discussing or displaying code comparisons to show that it
> is true. Surely it is incumbent on the complaintant to provide proof.

Code comparisons aren't very relevant to patent claims. MS are
essentially fishing. If there are patents infringed and MS said which
ones then they could be worked around or dropped as necessary.

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Re: criminal use of linux

[eoconno...@gmail.com]

If theres indeed no "teeth" to M$'s claim..then they're just trying to see of 
they can shake a few treessee who gets rattled?intetesting..that a 
co. so big is so scared of the small fry

Sent from Eddie's Cell Phone

- Reply message -
From: "Christopher Svanefalk" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Subject: criminal use of linux
Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 6:26 am
Best,
Christopher Svanefalk



On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Richard Vickery  
wrote:

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:


Correct... Micro$loth has never passed up an opportunity to bully.



From: Digimer 


To: Community support for Fedora users  
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:54 PM


Subject: Re: criminal use of
linux

Legal fights with companies sitting on the kind of cash MS has is a 
nearly impossible battle to win, unless you can match them. So this has 
nothing to do with facts and more to do with bullying.



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As one who studies laws, and the abuse of political power, I wouldn't worry 
about this; there is absolutely nothing MS can do - it's just a mere scare 
tactic.

Richard, please do not see this as a personal criticism, but if that was indeed 
the case, then would not the legal departments of the affected companies 
(especially Oracle, who most likely has a legal war machine easily on par with 
MS) have dismissed it rather than letting the company succumb to the demands?
 

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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

[Georgios Petasis]

Στις 2/8/2012 12:04, ο/η Heinz Diehl έγραψε:

On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote:


Thanks for the tip, I search for this option and seems to relate to nvidia
nforce 2 chipsets, but I also
get a lot of references for gigabyte boards, i.e.:

[]

The problem is related to the APIC timer interrupt, the CPU goes into enhanced
halt state (C1E) but is not able to wake up. See AMD erratum #400 and what
acpi_skip_timer_override actually does. See also
/arch/x86/kernel/process.c.

My personally advice is that you don't use C1E at all, but if you like
to, acpi_skip_timer_override will most probably fix it for you.

Have you tried?


Yes, I have tried and it does work.
So, this is a processor bug? I would expect that Linux should detect 
these automatically...


So, my AMD 920 cpu is not only slow, it has also some errata 
incompatible with Fedora. Nice :D


Thank you for pointing to acpi_skip_timer_override option...

George
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Re: criminal use of linux

[Christopher Svanefalk]

Best,

Christopher Svanefalk



On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Richard Vickery  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:
>
>> Correct... Micro$loth has never passed up an opportunity to bully.
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Digimer 
>>
>> *To:* Community support for Fedora users 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:54 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: criminal use of linux
>>  
>>
>> Legal fights with companies sitting on the kind of cash MS has is a
>> nearly impossible battle to win, unless you can match them. So this has
>> nothing to do with facts and more to do with bullying.
>>
>> Digimer
>>
>>
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>>
> As one who studies laws, and the abuse of political power, I wouldn't
> worry about this; there is absolutely nothing MS can do - it's just a mere
> scare tactic.
>

Richard, please do not see this as a personal criticism, but if that was
indeed the case, then would not the legal departments of the affected
companies (especially Oracle, who most likely has a legal war machine
easily on par with MS) have dismissed it rather than letting the company
succumb to the demands?


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was criminal use of linux [not] -now: ownership

[Roger]

Er... nobody can take ownership over work that you have written, Your 
work is your own, regardless of whether they own the language you write 
it in or not. Where is it stated that Micros[hi]t owns C++? when did 
this happen? You can't own something in the free domain? This is like 
saying that I own English and you can't use it unless I say so - it's 
stupid and ridiculous.


Indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B C++ has nothing to do with 
Microsoft. Even in C#, which they developed and where they own key 
components of the run-time, code you write belongs to you (though 
licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your 
compiler license - in exactly the same way some people call GPL 
infectious).



Thanks Richard.
I did see something about Microsoft owning or making a claim on 
ownership C++ in the av...@avaaz.org site who were raising awareness of 
the group of corporate nasties trying  to change US political thinking. 
They had something like 200,000 responses to that event, but I do not 
know the results.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/highlights.php , a like group trying to get 
support for absolute web control. This is the second such attempt I've 
seen. I gave support to the first.


If I can find it all again I'll post the url. I too thought it was 
stupid and didn't take much notice when I read it but it made me think, 
at the time, what if they own if, case, while and do, etc. This is why I 
remembered the article.


Ad for ownership, I think it depends on circumstances. I have heard 
instances of when one writes a work while employed by or under contract 
to a company then they do not own their work, the company does, even if 
the work was done on unpaid holidays or at home during unpaid after hours.


If, say a programmer or developer is employed by a company or 
organisation and they write code and say develop a site in their own 
time, using open source applications, and contribute the whole thing to 
Open source or under GPL, etc, can the company/organisation stake a claim?


Also, if a programmer writes code snippets and contributes snippets to a 
larger unit, for instance, a kernel or app. From the above comment, he 
still owns the code snippet.
If a vast number of snippets from a vast number of coders are donated 
free of encumbrance to enhance a kernel or app, how does that make the 
whole (Linux) responsible for copyright violation when no one entity 
owns it?


I'm probably waffling on here but it seems that there's more going on 
under the carpet than we may be aware of with MS. Mentioning over 200 
instances yet I see no one discussing or displaying code comparisons to 
show that it is true. Surely it is incumbent on the complaintant to 
provide proof.

Roger
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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

[Heinz Diehl]

On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote: 

> Thanks for the tip, I search for this option and seems to relate to nvidia
> nforce 2 chipsets, but I also
> get a lot of references for gigabyte boards, i.e.:
[]

The problem is related to the APIC timer interrupt, the CPU goes into enhanced
halt state (C1E) but is not able to wake up. See AMD erratum #400 and what
acpi_skip_timer_override actually does. See also
/arch/x86/kernel/process.c.

My personally advice is that you don't use C1E at all, but if you like
to, acpi_skip_timer_override will most probably fix it for you. 

Have you tried?

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Re: criminal use of linux [not]

[M. Fioretti]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 08:13:33 AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:

> licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your
> compiler license

Ian,
could you provide some concrete example of this?

Thanks,
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Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

[Georgios Petasis]

Στις 1/8/2012 23:24, ο/η Heinz Diehl έγραψε:

On 01.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote:


This sounds too difficult for me. I played with the bios settings, and I
found out that the freeze happens when the option "AMD C1E" is enabled in
the BIOS. If C1E is disabled, I don't need the acpi=off to get Linux to
boot. And this time the pc can be turned off during shutdown.

Ok.

Boot with "acpi_skip_timer_override" and C1E turned on in BIOS.

Thanks for the tip, I search for this option and seems to relate to 
nvidia nforce 2 chipsets, but I also

get a lot of references for gigabyte boards, i.e.:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648837

George
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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/02/2012 03:05 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> A snapshot of Properties->Information is attached (AbiWord-Info.jpeg).

OK

When you go to "System Settings->File Associations" AbiWord is at the top of 
the list of "Application Preference Order"?

I can recreate your issue if I move Firefox to the top and hit apply.
If AbiWord is a the top.  Why not move it, hit Apply, then move it back, and 
hit Apply.



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Re: criminal use of linux [not]

[Ian Malone]

On 2 August 2012 07:01, Richard Vickery  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Roger  wrote:
>>
>> Is it Criminal use of Linux, or more like criminal use of the world's
>> worst copyright and patent.
>> My take on this is that as Microsoft owns C++ anything written in C++ like
>> code falls under copyright.
>
>
> Er... nobody can take ownership over work that you have written, Your work
> is your own, regardless of whether they own the language you write it in or
> not.
>
> Where is it stated that Micros[hi]t owns C++? when did this happen? You
> can't own something in the free domain? This is like saying that I own
> English and you can't use it unless I say so - it's stupid and ridiculous.
>

Indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B C++ has nothing to do with
Microsoft. Even in C#, which they developed and where they own key
components of the run-time, code you write belongs to you (though
licensing of compiled binaries can be interesting depending on your
compiler license - in exactly the same way some people call GPL
infectious).

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Re: Files of type .abw start weirdly in KDE

[Joe Zeff]

On 08/01/2012 10:25 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:

Either type $abiword foo.abw at the command line or open abiword and
chose file/open; the manner in which you are doing it above will not
work. This is not MS Windows.


If I double-click on a file with the .odt extension it will open up in 
LibreOffice.  It does it in Xfce and it did it in Gnome 2.  Are you 
saying that it doesn't work in KDE?

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