Re: Euro symbol under Fedora-17/KDE
On Aug 31 18:46, Doug wrote: On 08/31/2012 02:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 07:04:00PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 31.08.2012, Suvayu Ali wrote: [1] Actually everything except Emacs. Emacs has many input methods of it's own; I prefer a TeX-like input method. Emacs is easy :-) AltGr+e is all you need to get the € sign. I never seem to get this AltGr key; which one is it? I have a ThinkPad with a US English keyboard, but my LANG is en_IN.UTF-8. How do I get this to work? Or is this an alternative to the compose key[1]? As for Emacs, my typing in emacs involves a lot of mathematical equations[2] in notes and commit messages. As far as I know, compose/AltGr keys are not as well suited for that. :) Footnotes: [1] I have compose key working very well. [2] e.g. ∂²(LL)/∂²x or ∫dt·exp(-Γt) a) I have never seen an AltGr key on any keyboard I have ever seen in the United States. It doesn't matter what keyboard you use, the keytable is important. The AltGr key is the right Alt key, the US keyboard is just not labeled this way. However, if you use, for instance, the US-International keytable, the right Alt key acts as the AltGr key as on any other international keyboard. Corinna -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No suspend on lid close
Artifex Maximus wrote: Is there any good tutorial on how to lower the power consumption of my netbook? I mean sysctl, proc, etc. settings. There is a tool called powertop in the standard Fedora repos: run it from a terminal as root. There is a tab (you get to it with the right arrow) called tunables, which makes suggestions for saving power. Don’t accept these suggestions blindly: it wants “Autosuspend for USB device Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical®” on my desktop, which turns the mouse off. I find this less than useful. Powertop knows how to implement most of its suggestions itself, or you can run powertop --html to output a file called PowerTOP.html, which gives you the command lines to run. You should note that most of these command lines will only affect the current session: you may want to change /etc/sysctl.conf (for example) to make the results permanent. However, you should also note that powertop suggests echo 'auto' '/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.2/power/control' to put the mouse into autosuspend mode. There’s no guarantee that the mouse will remain at that address (because USB is like that: devices can come and go, and that affects which device number they get), and you could end up autosuspending something you didn’t mean to autosuspend, like a disk. It also loves to suggest increasing the VM writeback timeout. This means that stuff you think you’ve written to disk may take longer to actually get there. With a working battery, the main thing you have to worry about there is kernel crashes (if you save something, then the kernel crashes, you might not have your saved work on disk). None of this is Fedora-specific, by the way. Hope this helps, James. -- E-mail: james@ | If infinite rednecks fired infinite shotguns at an aprilcottage.co.uk | infinite number of road signs, they’d eventually | create all the great literary works of the world. | In braille. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17: Manual monitor adjustment required after each boot
On Aug 13 11:05, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi, since upgrading from F16 to F17, I have a weird problem with the monitor settings on my desktop machine. I'm using the nouveau driver. The controller is an Nvidia GeForce 7100 GS. The controller is somewhat older, it has one DVI and one VGA plug. Attached are two LCD monitors running a single desktop spread over both monitors. Running under F16, everything worked as expected. With F17, every time I boot the machine, the monitor attached to the VGA plug is wrongly adjusted, but always in a different way. Sometimes it's just a bit off and text on the screen is flickering. Sometimes the entire picture is too wide, sometimes it's off to the right, or to the bottom, etc. Either way, every morning I now have to press the magic key sequence on the monitor to readjust the picture. Did anybody encounter the same problem? Does anybody know how to fix this, perhaps? For the records, I found the reason for this problem. It was apparently caused by a grub update. Grub2 was using the same maximum monitor resolution as I'm using in the GUI, 1280x1024. For some reason the adjustment for the monitor is a bit different each time in grub, and the monitor can only handle one adjustment per resolution. I changed the grub2 settings so that the grub2 menu is shown in another resolution, (GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480), and the problem vanished. Corinna -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
add a language in Ferdora 17
Hi I am trying to add a language in Ferdora, but the new language is not kept I go to System Settings Region and language Press + and select Dansih from the list. Then close the dialog window. After I open the dialog window again, the new language I added does not appear I tried the same with other languages like Czech and more, and I still have the problem. Another thing is this In the Region and Language window, some languages appear (Like French, German, Spanish and more). But the minus button is disabled and I cannot remove any of them. Any idea why ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: TB to claws-mail?
I think that setting properly your POP account will be enough. Your contacts are easily exportable. Just save them as a VCARD addressbook (or separate VCARD files) and import them in the new app. I can't encourage you to make the change. Time ago I try Claws Mail but I didn't like and never try it again. Exactly, why do you want to change? What is wrong or what is the lack you find in Thunderbird? You can also try: Seamonkey (Mozilla), Evolution (with calendar and other things), Kmail (a little tricky but with good features). Regards, Lailah signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: TB to claws-mail?
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 10:53:18 -0300, Lailah wrote: I think that setting properly your POP account will be enough. Your contacts are easily exportable. Just save them as a VCARD addressbook (or separate VCARD files) and import them in the new app. I can't encourage you to make the change. Time ago I try Claws Mail but I didn't like and never try it again. Exactly, why do you want to change? What is wrong or what is the lack you find in Thunderbird? Same questions to you, albeit about Claws Mail. ;-) What about it did you dislike? -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.26 0.19 0.16 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: TB to claws-mail?
On 09/01/2012 07:53 AM, Lailah wrote: I think that setting properly your POP account will be enough. Your contacts are easily exportable. Just save them as a VCARD addressbook (or separate VCARD files) and import them in the new app. I can't encourage you to make the change. Time ago I try Claws Mail but I didn't like and never try it again. Exactly, why do you want to change? What is wrong or what is the lack you find in Thunderbird? You can also try: Seamonkey (Mozilla), Evolution (with calendar and other things), Kmail (a little tricky but with good features). /Regards,/ */Lailah/* I communicated with a developer of ClawsMail re: importing into claws all the TB folders and contacts. He pointed me to http://claws-mail.org/tools.php There I found tbird2claws.pyA tool to Integrate a Mozilla Thunderbird mailbox into Claws Mail thunderbird-filters-convertor.plConvert Thunderbird filter rules into Claws' filtering rules csv2addressbook.pl Import a Thunderbird, Becky, Kmail or GMail address book I tried tbird2claws.py and csv2addressbook.pl and neither of them worked. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
Good day... (or not depending on your POV ;) Situation: I have one 1TB drive in a usb enclosure, formatted ntfs. On my main Linux system (which runs Fedora 17 with NTFS-3G) I used this external drive to copy some files from my home dir. Now I connect the external usb NTFS-formatted drive to my old xpsp3 running netbook and stumble upon a file (a folder actually under .cache\vlc\art\artistalbum\The Rapture\How Deep is Your Love? that ABSOLUTELY can´t be removed from WinXP, as windows thinks question marks are an invalid character in a file or folder name. I guess I´m screwed... needless to say my love for NTFS (to answer ´how deep is your love?´ ;-P) is fading every passing minute. ;) In the end it is the same situation as: http://superuser.com/questions/31587/how-to-force-windows-xp-to-rename-a-file-with-a-special-character Since right now I don´t have access to my Fedora 17 desktop where the files were created, can anyone help me with a little experiment? 1. Create a file or folders on your linux box with question mark in its name 2. plug a ntfs formatted drive into your linux box (have ntfs-3g enabled with write support) 3. use midnight commander to move or copy such files to the ntfs drive 4. plug the external drive into a windows machine and see if the files maintain the question mark in its name. If so, I think this is a ntfs-3g bug! it should NOT allow users to create file names that later can´t be accessed from windows machines. Or should at least include some configuration option to let the user decide what default action to take in such cases (ie, renaming illegal chars for ntfs to underscores, or something). Thanks, FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 09/01/2012 11:28 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Now I connect the external usb NTFS-formatted drive to my old xpsp3 running netbook and stumble upon a file (a folder actually under .cache\vlc\art\artistalbum\The Rapture\How Deep is Your Love? that ABSOLUTELY can´t be removed from WinXP, as windows thinks question marks are an invalid character in a file or folder name. Of course it's an invalid character for XP, just as it is for Linux. The question mark is a wildcard, used to represent one unknown character, just as an asterisk is used to represent any number of unknown characters. Thus, test?.txt will match test1.txt or test2.txt but not test12.txt. Have you tried putting quotation marks around the name to keep it from being expanded? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: Have you tried putting quotation marks around the name to keep it from being expanded? Yes, tried everything... wildcards, enclosing it, rename first, move, rename with wildcards nothing works. :-( And I´m afraid of running CHKDSK because I have tons of stuff there not backed up, and it wouldn´t be the first time that CHKDSK decides oh, there´s a lot of invalid dirs in there, I´ll now happily lose your data by mangling folder names and destroying the folders layout while claiming to fix things. ;-) FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 09/01/2012 12:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Joe Zeffj...@zeff.us wrote: Have you tried putting quotation marks around the name to keep it from being expanded? Yes, tried everything... wildcards, enclosing it, rename first, move, rename with wildcards nothing works. :-( OK, well, it was worth asking, JIC. See if you can find a LiveCD that includes emacs. (Yes, specifically emacs.) Open up the directory from a command line in dired mode. (You do this by specifying the directory on the command line instead of a file.) What you'll see is a directory listing *that you can edit.* Edit the file name by removing/changing the question mark, and do any other tidying up you think needed. Save, exit and Bjorn Stronginthearm's your uncle. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: See if you can find a LiveCD that includes emacs. Thanks for the help and suggestion. I´m sure I´ll end up fixing this on Monday when I return and have access to the drive from my F17 Linux machine. Right now, I´m stuck with a XPSP3 netbook for the weekend. The idea of my post, however, was to raise a red flag about files with invalid names being happily written by Linux NTFS-3G... (the files ORIGINATED on the F17 box, as I plugged the NTFS external drive there, and copied a bunch of files using Midnight commander to it, which are now the files that are giving me trouble). That is to say, I wrote no files to that drive from XP, always from Fedora 17. The only time I did some writing on that external drive from windows was for formatting it NTFS, at the time I purchased it. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 09/01/2012 09:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/01/2012 11:28 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Now I connect the external usb NTFS-formatted drive to my old xpsp3 running netbook and stumble upon a file (a folder actually under .cache\vlc\art\artistalbum\The Rapture\How Deep is Your Love? that ABSOLUTELY can´t be removed from WinXP, as windows thinks question marks are an invalid character in a file or folder name. Of course it's an invalid character for XP, just as it is for Linux. The question mark is a wildcard, used to represent one unknown character, just as an asterisk is used to represent any number of unknown characters. Thus, test?.txt will match test1.txt or test2.txt but not test12.txt. Have you tried putting quotation marks around the name to keep it from being expanded? You say it is invalid, then you say you have to escape it. It is perfectly valid in Linux. You just have to escape it to avoid confusion inside the shell (no issue with GUI programs). [root@thinkpad ~]# cd /tmp [root@thinkpad tmp]# mkdir tests [root@thinkpad tmp]# cd tests [root@thinkpad tests]# date ok\? [root@thinkpad tests]# ls -l total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30 Sep 1 22:02 ok? [root@thinkpad tests]# cat ok\? Sat Sep 1 22:02:45 CEST 2012 [root@thinkpad tests]# rm ok\? rm: remove regular file `ok?'? y [root@thinkpad tests]# ls -l total 0 The only character forbidden character is the slash (obviously) and I'm not sure about the 0x00 byte (which would make a mess with C strings). You can also use invalid utf8; in fact the filesystem does not care about charset encoding, file names are sequences of bytes. [Linus personally rejected the proposal to associate an encoding to a filesystem (and he did it with good reasons, I'd say)] The problem on Windows can probably solved by using the command prompt and something tricky, like recursively deleting the parent directory of the file. Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 09/01/2012 01:13 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: You say it is invalid, then you say you have to escape it. It is perfectly valid in Linux. You just have to escape it to avoid confusion inside the shell (no issue with GUI programs). Not quite. I know that in Linux you can get around some invalid characters, such as spaces, by quoting the name so that the shell knows to pass it on to the program as one string so I suggested trying it in XP to see if it worked. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
Joe Zeff writes: On 09/01/2012 01:13 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: You say it is invalid, then you say you have to escape it. It is perfectly valid in Linux. You just have to escape it to avoid confusion inside the shell (no issue with GUI programs). Not quite. I know that in Linux you can get around some invalid characters, such as spaces, by quoting the name so that the shell knows to pass it on to the program as one string so I suggested trying it in XP to see if it worked. There's nothing equivalent to shell in MS Windows. The command prompt is a joke. MS Windows has a separate API for filename wildcard matching, and file operations. The APIs that deal with opening, closing files ban wildcard characters in the filename. An application is expected to use the wildcard matching API calls to expand the wildcards, before opening or closing them. You cannot have filenames containing wildcard characters in MS-Windows. I do agree that NTFS and FAT drivers should reject filenames containing ?, *, :, and whatever else MS Windows barfs on. pgpgbnDKhzPkm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: You cannot have filenames containing wildcard characters in MS-Windows. I do agree that NTFS and FAT drivers should reject filenames containing ?, *, :, and whatever else MS Windows barfs on. exactly my point. Where should I write this bug report on? tuxera´s or fedora´s? http://tuxera.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2sid=7d15e42211323f2d62370e1ee6f18896 FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 1 September 2012 21:26, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 09/01/2012 01:13 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: You say it is invalid, then you say you have to escape it. It is perfectly valid in Linux. You just have to escape it to avoid confusion inside the shell (no issue with GUI programs). Not quite. I know that in Linux you can get around some invalid characters, such as spaces, by quoting the name so that the shell knows to pass it on to the program as one string so I suggested trying it in XP to see if it worked. Not invalid, just not a good idea to use them (or anything that gets interpreted by the shell). I always avoid spaces in anything that needs to be machinable. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
What the 'H is going on with Flash-plugin ???
F17 / KDE I have updated a couple of time and I loose the Flashplayer function to play Flash videos. I used fedorautils to install flash-plugin, and repaired it one time by deleting flash-plug and reinstalling it with fedorautils, but the second time around that did not work . any Ideals, no Flashplayer at this time . flash-plugin-11.2.202.238 is presently installed . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 13:26:10 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
Not quite. I know that in Linux you can get around some invalid
characters, such as spaces, by quoting the name so that the shell knows
to pass it on to the program as one string so I suggested trying it in
XP to see if it worked.
What about the rename command in C?
#include stdio.h
int main(void)
{
rename(thisfile,thatfile);
return 0;
}
Then you're not going through a command shell.
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Re: f16 preupdate from f14, xfce logout error
So I tried xfce via yum groupinstall xfce That seemed to complete without error not sure now, but I think gnome persisted even with reboots. Joe Zeff responded: Log out, then back in. When you log in, after you've selected your username, but before you give your password, there's a drop-down box that's set to the last DE you used. Change it from Gnome to XFCE and when you log in, you'll be in Xfce the way you want. I wish I'd known this before I fumbled my way through xfce. I don't think I am getting that drop down box. Current state: It looks like the logouterror finally is no longer appearing. But I don't know what combo of xfce new stuff did the trick. I also did a kill on about 50-70 of those logout errors seen in ps aux --stale code ? However booting now does not start X: the system just hangs with a black screen, blinking dash. I can then get X via going to console,Ctrl-alt-F2, which gives me a sign in prompt, signing in as byers, and running startx. this gets me back to graphical desktop. It's only an extra step for the boot, but I would like to know how to fix this. I am assuming this problem was somehow caused by my fumbling xfce install. Is it sensible to try yum groupremove xfce, or maybe?: groupremove_leaf_only xfce then see if my system boots up with no need for 'startx', back in gnome. If that works, then redo yum groupinstall xfce ? Jack -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f16 preupdate from f14, xfce logout error
On 09/01/2012 04:36 PM, jackson byers wrote: I wish I'd known this before I fumbled my way through xfce. I don't think I am getting that drop down box. Just to be clear. After you select your username, you get prompted for your password. At the bottom left of that window, there should be a drop-down box labeled Session, that defaults to whatever DE you used the last time you logged in this way. If it says GNOME, change it to XFCE before typing your password. Then, it should default to Xfce until and unless you change it. However booting now does not start X: the system just hangs with a black screen, blinking dash. I can then get X via going to console,Ctrl-alt-F2, which gives me a sign in prompt, signing in as byers, and running startx. If you want to be sure you're using Xfce, try using startxfce4 instead. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, 2012-09-01 at 16:27 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: And I´m afraid of running CHKDSK because I have tons of stuff there not backed up, and it wouldn´t be the first time that CHKDSK decides oh, there´s a lot of invalid dirs in there, I´ll now happily lose your data by mangling folder names and destroying the folders layout while claiming to fix things. ;-) Or just outright deleting them. I've seen it do that. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On 09/01/2012 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/01/2012 11:28 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Now I connect the external usb NTFS-formatted drive to my old xpsp3 running netbook and stumble upon a file (a folder actually under .cache\vlc\art\artistalbum\The Rapture\How Deep is Your Love? that ABSOLUTELY can´t be removed from WinXP, as windows thinks question marks are an invalid character in a file or folder name. Of course it's an invalid character for XP, just as it is for Linux. The question mark is a wildcard, used to represent one unknown character, just as an asterisk is used to represent any number of unknown characters. Thus, test?.txt will match test1.txt or test2.txt but not test12.txt. Have you tried putting quotation marks around the name to keep it from being expanded? Actually, '?' is not an invalid character in a Linux filename. Only / and the NULL character (0) are invalid in filenames. Regards, John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:12 PM, John Wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, '?' is not an invalid character in a Linux filename. Only / and the NULL character (0) are invalid in filenames. Regards, John Well, it´d be akin to writing FAT with filenames that later can´t be read from other OSs. I mean... if you write on a foreign filesystem, it´d be nice to enforce the restrictions of the OS where that filesystem originated. One of the reasons people format drives with NTFS on Linux is obviously for data interchange with Windows machines... At least a strict compliance mode should be offered, with the same filename limtis as in windows and a linux only mode in any case without ´em. Just my $0.02 of course... FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
