gnome classic interface with F17?

2012-10-08 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Deal list
I have installed F17 and I got the  *new* gnome interface with allows
to search for application when you move the mouse to the upper left
corner.

Is it possible to  configure gnome to work with the *classic*
interface (with panel)

Regards
Adel
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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 10/08/2012 07:36 PM, David G. Miller wrote:

Just guessing but what is the first line of the file?  It's probably:



That is also wrong.  Apache uses the AddHandler directive and file 
extensions to decide whether or not a handler should process a file. 
The php will only process files that have .php as one of their 
extensions in the default configuration.  Thus, you can have a file 
named "sample.txt" which started with "unmodifed text.


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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 10/08/2012 06:08 PM, Tim wrote:

Content negotiation allows the webserver to hold multiple different
variations of the same data, and for the webserver and web browser to
negotiate between them as to which will be the best version to offer.


According to the documentation and to tests, MultiViews does not 
interact with AddHandler.  Apache documents that files may have multiple 
extensions, regardless of the setting of MultiViews.

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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 10/08/2012 04:32 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

I have just tried it turning off MultiViews in the
directory where I have my copy of my web pages and
by gosh, it does indeed just show me the file now
instead of running the php script, so even though
my poor brain can't figure out how the heck what the
apache docs say about MultiViews could possibly
cause this, it does indeed appear to be MultiViews
that is causing it.


MultiViews isn't enabled anywhere except for /icons in the default 
configuration, but the standard behavior is exactly as you originally 
described.  You might want to verify that your browser isn't showing you 
a cached version of the server's response.


I just checked one of the few systems where I run php, and I'm certain 
that MultiViews does not cause the behavior that you described.



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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread David G . Miller
Tom Horsley  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On my local system I have apache running so I can test web pages
> before I upload them to my ISP.
> 
> I have a sample .php script which I explicitly named with
> a .php.txt suffix so it would be treated as a plain text
> file, not a php script.
> 
> Yet apache is clearly running the php script rather than just
> uploading the plain text copy of the script when I click
> on the link to the .php.txt file.
> 
> Anyone have any clue what is causing this to happen?
> I can't imagine this is something that would be desirable
> behavior .
> 
> I made it stop by turning off php completely in the
> subdirectory holding the pages, but I still what to
> understand what on earth was making it run the script
> in the first place.

Just guessing but what is the first line of the file?  It's probably:

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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM, manifestoe  wrote:
> You probably didn't run the X core indexers.
>
> mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/msttcore
> mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/msttcore
>
> assuming you've already added this
>
> cat > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/09-msttcore-fontpath.conf <<'EOT'
> Section "Files"
>   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/msttcore"
> EndSection
> EOT
>
> the xset and this 09 file only work if you've already indexed the fonts.

The above reminds me about that joke about Unix being user friendly...
"it´s just selective about whom his friends are".

Really, nobody thought about creating a bash script that does all of
the above?. I´m convinced that Linux needs less ´howtos´ with large
blobs of commands to cut-and-paste into a shell, and more ´howtos
turned into scripts, added to the base system´.

Just my $0.02
FC
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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread manifestoe
You probably didn't run the X core indexers.

mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/msttcore
mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/msttcore

assuming you've already added this

cat > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/09-msttcore-fontpath.conf <<'EOT'
Section "Files"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/msttcore"
EndSection
EOT

the xset and this 09 file only work if you've already indexed the fonts.



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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Tim
Mike Wright:
>> For further head explosion refer please refer to
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html

Tom Horsley:
> That was the one that made my head explode :-).
> 
> I have just tried it turning off MultiViews in the
> directory where I have my copy of my web pages and
> by gosh, it does indeed just show me the file now
> instead of running the php script, so even though
> my poor brain can't figure out how the heck what the
> apache docs say about MultiViews could possibly
> cause this, it does indeed appear to be MultiViews
> that is causing it.

Content negotiation allows the webserver to hold multiple different
variations of the same data, and for the webserver and web browser to
negotiate between them as to which will be the best version to offer.

That could be a web page written in several different languages (each
actual version being a different file), and your browser (if you
bothered to configure it properly) will state what languages you can
read, and hopefully the server will offer the best match.  That's
relatively simple if there's just one match (e.g. English), becoming
more complicated if there's several matches.  In that case, there's a
weighting applied.  Supposedly, the author can score the pages, so that
one version is promoted as the best, and other's lesser (e.g. their
skills in that language aren't as good, or they used an auto-translater,
so that that page may be harder to understand).  And supposedly the web
browser can score your list of languages that you can read.  However,
I've yet to see a browser do that, it just seems to let you sort the
order of the languages in the list, and the top of the list is
supposedly considered best.  I've yet to see an example of how the page
author can score their pages, short of making explicit configurations of
the webserver, per page.

And, it can negotiation be for different file types.  I could offer
downloads of a document in PDF, ODT, DOC, or just TXT, and between the
server and the browser working it out, they'd hopefully offer you the
best choice (as outlined in the language discussion, above, some
weighting automatically picks the best choice).  Likewise, I could offer
you JPEGs, or GIFs, or PNGs, of the same image, and hopefully offer you
the best choice.  Unfortunately, with these sorts of negotiated
offerings, the usual consideration seems to be merely be picking the
smallest size file.  And most browsers default configuration says that
they'll accept ANY type of file, never mind if that file is actually
supported on your system.  So you can still get offered file types that
you can't actually use.

In any case, language or file type of negotiation, the server uses the
filename as part of the process.  Particularly the file suffix.  And
multiple file suffixes are allowed.  i.e. example.php.txt is a PHP file
(to be treated as a PHP file), *AND* a text file.  As you've found out,
there are problems when you use file suffixes with competing purposes.

For fun and games, you could see what happens with example.jpg.txt and
example.txt.jpg, with images and text files tried with either names.
Similar games with example.html.txt and example.txt.html can be rather
confusing (serving HTML or plain text).  Even more so when you try to
browse using a non-compliant browser, like MSIE, which pays scant
attention to the MIME type sent by the server, and snoops at the file
data content, instead.  Hence, the many misconfigured web servers that
seem to work, because the webmaster knows not what they're doing.  And
hence the many infected Windows machine, because the browser executed
the executable program that was deliberately sent to the browser with a
safe MIDI filetype description, the browser allowing such a safe thing,
then automatically doing what it does with the executable program that
it found, instead.

But, if you're not using content negotiation, and you don't appear to
be, and most people probably do not use it.  You can, and probably
should, disable the feature.  It'll mean less work for the server, and
less chance of surprises.

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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio


--- Em seg, 8/10/12, manifestoe  escreveu:

> De: manifestoe 
> Assunto: Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found
> Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2012, 20:28
> Sergio,
> 
> have a look here ...
> 
> http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_install_and_use_X-Windows_fonts
> 
> xfontsel is part of X core fonts.
> 
> fc-list will list the fonts known to Xft fonts.
> 
> xlsfonts will list the fonts known to X core.
> 
> Yes, I believe the rpm I pointed to should setup the fonts
> for xfontsel.  I
> don't have it installed so I can't check it.  What
> version and flavour of
> linux are you running?  I tested for this, and the ms
> core tt fonts showed
> up in both Xft and X core lists.
> 
> 

Thanks for that link. xfontsel uses the X core fonts (old system) and it 
doesn't list ms fonts (nor xlsfonts does).
I followed the guide and added /usr/share/fonts/msttcore/ to the font path in 
xset after creating the fonts.dir etc. but it doesn't make any difference.
I'm using Fedora 17.

But no problem.
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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:20:27 -0700
Mike Wright wrote:

> For further head explosion refer please refer to
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html

That was the one that made my head explode :-).

I have just tried it turning off MultiViews in the
directory where I have my copy of my web pages and
by gosh, it does indeed just show me the file now
instead of running the php script, so even though
my poor brain can't figure out how the heck what the
apache docs say about MultiViews could possibly
cause this, it does indeed appear to be MultiViews
that is causing it.

Thanks to everyone.
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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread manifestoe
Sergio,

have a look here ...

http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_install_and_use_X-Windows_fonts

xfontsel is part of X core fonts.

fc-list will list the fonts known to Xft fonts.

xlsfonts will list the fonts known to X core.

Yes, I believe the rpm I pointed to should setup the fonts for xfontsel.  I
don't have it installed so I can't check it.  What version and flavour of
linux are you running?  I tested for this, and the ms core tt fonts showed
up in both Xft and X core lists.





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Re: Virtualbox Error

2012-10-08 Thread Mark LaPierre

On 10/08/2012 12:15 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:

Getting this error: http://i.imgur.com/5pjLy.png


Configuration: AMD FX 6100(5 cores to vbox) , 8 GB DDR3 1067 Mhz (4GB to
vbox)



Virtualbox installed from oracle repo, fedora 17 64 bit. Trying to boot arch



Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor






Did this installation run previously?  If not, what did you do just 
before it stopped working?


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Re: K3B won't burn Imaqe

2012-10-08 Thread Jim

On 10/08/2012 06:23 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

On 08/10/12 22:24, Jim wrote:

Fedora 15 an 17

Trying to burn Fedora image on CD-R , the disk is new.

When opening  the k3b Create window it shows blank media in cd/dvd
burner, but in the burn window it is telling you place blank cd in drve
, even if you open and close drive it sill does not show a blank Cd and
you can't burn.

I have burn cd/dvd's in this drive.


If you're trying to burn an .iso image you need the 'Tools' menu.


That is where I started  Tools > Burn Image  but that does not help, It 
won't let me me Start, It is still shaded .

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Re: K3B won't burn Imaqe

2012-10-08 Thread John Pilkington

On 08/10/12 22:24, Jim wrote:

Fedora 15 an 17

Trying to burn Fedora image on CD-R , the disk is new.

When opening  the k3b Create window it shows blank media in cd/dvd
burner, but in the burn window it is telling you place blank cd in drve
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you can't burn.

I have burn cd/dvd's in this drive.


If you're trying to burn an .iso image you need the 'Tools' menu.


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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 10/08/2012 11:08 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

I have a sample .php script which I explicitly named with
a .php.txt suffix so it would be treated as a plain text
file, not a php script.

Yet apache is clearly running the php script rather than just
uploading the plain text copy of the script when I click
on the link to the .php.txt file.


In the default configuration, .php.txt will use the php handler, because 
.php is still of the file's extensions.


Instead of adding .txt (and thus adding a second extension), replace 
.php with .txt.


http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_mime.html#addhandler
  The extension argument is case-insensitive and can be specified with
  or without a leading dot. Filenames may have multiple extensions and
  the extension argument will be compared against each of them.

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_mime.html#multipleext
  For example, if you wish to have the file foo.html.cgi processed as a
  CGI script, but not the file bar.cgi.html, then instead of using
  AddHandler cgi-script .cgi, use
  
   SetHandler cgi-script
  
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K3B won't burn Imaqe

2012-10-08 Thread Jim

Fedora 15 an 17

Trying to burn Fedora image on CD-R , the disk is new.

When opening  the k3b Create window it shows blank media in cd/dvd 
burner, but in the burn window it is telling you place blank cd in drve 
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you can't burn.


I have burn cd/dvd's in this drive.
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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Mike Wright

10/08/2012 11:39 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

this is widely known and caused by the "MultiViews" option
and can also lead to execute PHP if images conatin code
and saved with .php.gif


But when I read the docs for that (which, by the way, make
my head want to explode) it sounds like MultiViews is something
that will try to find a different file if the requested
one doesn't exist, but I'm *requesting* the .php.txt file
and it does exist, so I'm still confused, but when I get
home I'll try re-enabling php and turning off MultiViews
and see what happens.


Pleasure to offer some help, Tom.

I've been struggling/learning with Apache for many years.  It is a very 
powerful tool.


MultiViews has to do with a thing called "Content Negotiation".  Helpful 
in multilingual situations where it may be desired to return something 
in a specific language, whether content or error pages.


*Very clever people could think up other uses*

Unfortunately it can match and grab the wrong files if allowed to roam 
or is not properly tethered.  Only enable MultiViews for resources that 
absolutely require them.  Make sure to specify the Directory, Location, 
or File directives when using it.


For further head explosion refer please refer to
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html



Thanks.

P.S. I'm not sure "widely known" is a phrase that should
ever be used with anything on linux :-).


LOL


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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/08/2012 11:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 08.10.2012 20:36, schrieb Joe Zeff:

On 10/08/2012 11:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

because i am still moderated on teh list
and since MANY DAYS people decided to
moderate DO NOT DO THEIR JOB and release
any message


You have my sympathy.  Granted, you sometimes sound like you're jumping up and 
down and tearing your hair out, but
even when you're at your most irate you don't go out of your way to make 
trouble.  And, even though you and I don't
always get along, I've always respected your knowledge.  I don't have to like 
you to learn from you.


reply this to the list
maybe the moderators are reading sometimes there :-)



That's a good idea.  Frankly, I can't understand why you've been 
moderated in the first place unless somebody malicious made an unfounded 
complaint.

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Re: Yahoo and thunderbird.

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio


--- Em seg, 8/10/12, Rick Stevens  escreveu:

> De: Rick Stevens 
> Assunto: Re: OT was Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found
> Para: sergiocmailbox-userl...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora 
> users" 
> Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2012, 15:21
> On 10/08/2012 10:42 AM, Sergio issued
> this missive:
> > Yep, I use Thunderbird with my gmail accounts. The
> problem with yahoo is
> > that it doesn't have IMAP so:
> > - you have to download the messages.
> > - they (AFAIK) become unavailable in the web
> interface.
> > So for my yahoo mail I use the web interface.
> > The good thing about yahoo is its disposable
> addresses.
> > It has a 'new' mail interface (available since some
> time already) and
> > maybe it's friendlier but I'm sticking with the
> classic.
> 
> If Yahoo supports POP, make sure you have the "Leave
> messages on server" 
> option set in the "Server Options" part of your account
> setup on Thunderbird. It'll download the messages but leave
> them on the
> Yahoo server. I think they even still show up as "Unread"
> (at least
> they do on RoadRunner's servers).
> 

Thanks, I'll check that.
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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Horsley
> this is widely known and caused by the "MultiViews" option
> and can also lead to execute PHP if images conatin code
> and saved with .php.gif

But when I read the docs for that (which, by the way, make
my head want to explode) it sounds like MultiViews is something
that will try to find a different file if the requested
one doesn't exist, but I'm *requesting* the .php.txt file
and it does exist, so I'm still confused, but when I get
home I'll try re-enabling php and turning off MultiViews
and see what happens.

Thanks.

P.S. I'm not sure "widely known" is a phrase that should
ever be used with anything on linux :-).
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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/08/2012 11:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

apache/php is not interesed at all in execute-flags

this is widely known and caused by the "MultiViews" option
and can also lead to execute PHP if images contain code
and saved with .php.gif


Not by me, because I've never worked with them.  I sit corrected, and 
will try to remember it in the future.


BTW, for some weird reason, Thunderbird wanted to send this back to you 
and you alone, not the list even though you sent the message to the list.

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Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/08/2012 11:08 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

Anyone have any clue what is causing this to happen?
I can't imagine this is something that would be desirable
behavior :-).


What are the permissions on the file?
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why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On my local system I have apache running so I can test web pages
before I upload them to my ISP.

I have a sample .php script which I explicitly named with
a .php.txt suffix so it would be treated as a plain text
file, not a php script.

Yet apache is clearly running the php script rather than just
uploading the plain text copy of the script when I click
on the link to the .php.txt file.

Anyone have any clue what is causing this to happen?
I can't imagine this is something that would be desirable
behavior :-).

I made it stop by turning off php completely in the
subdirectory holding the pages, but I still what to
understand what on earth was making it run the script
in the first place.
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OT was Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio
Yep, I use Thunderbird with my gmail accounts. The problem with yahoo is that 
it doesn't have IMAP so:
- you have to download the messages.
- they (AFAIK) become unavailable in the web interface.
So for my yahoo mail I use the web interface.
The good thing about yahoo is its disposable addresses.
It has a 'new' mail interface (available since some time already) and maybe 
it's friendlier but I'm sticking with the classic.



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Sergio  
wrote:

 (and since it's POP I avoid using thunderbird for it).
It is possible to get a threaded view of emails in thunderbird


http://lifehacker.com/5708180/thunderbird-conversations-brings-true-gmail+like-conversation-views-to-thunderbird


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/
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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 10/08/2012 02:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 09:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On 10/08/2012 04:38 AM, Temlakos wrote:

Beginning about an hour ago, I've been hit with a ton of application
terminations. All of them say the same thing: "Signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
Which I believe translates as "Signal segmentation violation."


In addition to what others already wrote, check if you aren't running
out of memory (run "df" and check its output).


df tells you about free disk space.
Yes - My fault. I probably should have written "disk space" instead of 
"memory".



It has nothing whatever to do with
RAM,

It depends. C.f. tmpfs, RAM disks etc.


besides which a lack of disk space (even in swap) would cause a
system error message, not a segfault.
When running out of memory, inside of a program a malloc may fail, which 
may cause a pointer be set something invalid, which later may cause a 
SEGFAULT when the pointer is dereferenced.


All in all, when running out of memory (or swap or tmpfs), all kind of 
weird errors can happen - I've seen the weirdest things happen is such 
occasions ;)


Ralf


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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Sergio  wrote:

> (and since it's POP I avoid using thunderbird for it).


It is possible to get a threaded view of emails in thunderbird

http://lifehacker.com/5708180/thunderbird-conversations-brings-true-gmail+like-conversation-views-to-thunderbird

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/
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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio
OT.
I saw now that the thread at http://fedora.12.n6.nabble.com gives some 
perspective. I use yahoo web mail and it's definitely not good to follow 
threads (and since it's POP I avoid using thunderbird for it).

--- Em seg, 8/10/12, Fernando Cassia  escreveu:

De: Fernando Cassia 
Assunto: Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found
Para: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2012, 13:43



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Sergio  
wrote:

The newly available rpm package.
Thanks! Somehow missed that bit of info among all the talk.


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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Sergio  wrote:

> The newly available rpm package.


Thanks! Somehow missed that bit of info among all the talk.

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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio
The newly available rpm package.

--- Em seg, 8/10/12, Fernando Cassia  escreveu:

De: Fernando Cassia 
Assunto: Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found
Para: sergiocmailbox-userl...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora 
users" 
Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2012, 13:39



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Sergio  
wrote:

Hi, thanks for this. Just to make sure, I have this rpm installed: 
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html#ttf


It just installs the font files to /usr/share/fonts/msttcore

The fonts are available for X (like in font manager) but ain't available for 
instance in xfontsel.

If I use your package it would be better?
Sorry but I´m curious... what has made this thread resurrect after 4 months?

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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Sergio  wrote:

> Hi, thanks for this. Just to make sure, I have this rpm installed:
> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html#ttf
> It just installs the font files to /usr/share/fonts/msttcore
> The fonts are available for X (like in font manager) but ain't available
> for instance in xfontsel.
> If I use your package it would be better?
>

Sorry but I´m curious... what has made this thread resurrect after 4 months?

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Jack Craig
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 10/08/2012 05:55 AM, Temlakos wrote:
>
>> Several times in the past I have shut down this computer and literally
>> waited for it to cool off. It always seemed to work, at least nine times
>> out of ten. But I never really believed that things actually worked that
>> way. I shut it down overnight, and in the morning most of my problem
>> applications started working properly again.
>>
>
> Open the box up and use some compressed air to blow all of the dust out.
>  While you're at it, make sure that all of the air intakes are clear.
>

possibly related issue, I'd like to push deeper on overtemp behavior.

I live on The coast where temp is usually moderate, but last week
we got real close to triple digits.

my PC (asus MB, Intel CPU, < 2 yrs old) is running F16.

when i got home, my dmesg had a number of cpu overtemp msgs,
eg 74K event recorded, see hw logs.

i could hear the cpu fan behaving strangely, it would speed up, then fall
off and repeat.
it was like someone in a car, pushing the accelerate to the floor, letting
off and as soon as the engine(fan) slows down, it repeats.

I assumed, apparently in error, some damage was done to my MB, heat sensor,
other.

I prepare for a maintenance windows Sat am, i shutdown and booted to bios,
hoping to find a diagnostics menu to get a better diagnosis for the repair
folks.

i could not find any diagnostic option despite a monitor context where cpu
fan appeared ok.

i rebooted to Linux and she has been fine.

so now my query, does anyone know of the Linux kernel could have been
speeding up the fan or was it likely the MB driving that HW behaviour?

anyone got a clue about this; looking to be better prepared for next time,
...

tia, jackc...




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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread Sergio


--- Em seg, 8/10/12, manifestoe  escreveu:

> De: manifestoe 
> Assunto: Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found
> Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2012, 10:38
> Try this instead ...
> 
> rpm -i
> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mscorefonts2/rpms/msttcore-fonts-installer-2.2-1.noarch.rpm
> 
> This rpm installs the fonts from sourceforge at install
> time, it does not
> contain the fonts.  In addition, it pulls in updated
> fonts from the EUupdate
> font set, and installs the fonts correctly to X core and
> Xft.
> 
> chkfontpath is old.  mkfontscale, mkfontdir, fc-cache
> are more up to date. 
> also, /etc/fonts/conf.d and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.
> 
> You need to use all those to add the fonts to Xft and X
> core.  But that's
> all in the above rpm.
> 
> 

Hi, thanks for this. Just to make sure, I have this rpm installed: 
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html#ttf
It just installs the font files to /usr/share/fonts/msttcore
The fonts are available for X (like in font manager) but ain't available for 
instance in xfontsel.
If I use your package it would be better?
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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/08/2012 11:24 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/08/2012 05:55 AM, Temlakos wrote:
>> Several times in the past I have shut down this computer and literally
>> waited for it to cool off. It always seemed to work, at least nine times
>> out of ten. But I never really believed that things actually worked that
>> way. I shut it down overnight, and in the morning most of my problem
>> applications started working properly again.
> 
> Open the box up and use some compressed air to blow all of the dust out.
>  While you're at it, make sure that all of the air intakes are clear.

Good advice for everyone. I have two cats and the PC sits on a carpeted
floor under my desk.  It gets full of dust, hair, and I'm not sure what
much faster that I like to think about.  I use Dust-Off about every six
weeks to make sure it runs cool.

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/08/2012 05:55 AM, Temlakos wrote:

Several times in the past I have shut down this computer and literally
waited for it to cool off. It always seemed to work, at least nine times
out of ten. But I never really believed that things actually worked that
way. I shut it down overnight, and in the morning most of my problem
applications started working properly again.


Open the box up and use some compressed air to blow all of the dust out. 
 While you're at it, make sure that all of the air intakes are clear.

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Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found

2012-10-08 Thread manifestoe
Try this instead ...

rpm -i
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mscorefonts2/rpms/msttcore-fonts-installer-2.2-1.noarch.rpm

This rpm installs the fonts from sourceforge at install time, it does not
contain the fonts.  In addition, it pulls in updated fonts from the EUupdate
font set, and installs the fonts correctly to X core and Xft.

chkfontpath is old.  mkfontscale, mkfontdir, fc-cache are more up to date. 
also, /etc/fonts/conf.d and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

You need to use all those to add the fonts to Xft and X core.  But that's
all in the above rpm.



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Re: Can't print txt file

2012-10-08 Thread Jim

On 10/07/2012 09:48 PM, Larry wrote:

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On 10/07/2012 08:32 PM, Jim wrote:

Fedora 17/ KDE

Trying to print a k
Kwrite txt or a image file, open file and click on Print and another
window opens and it will only let you print as a pdf or ps output.

No other options.

What could be the problem ??


Perhaps you need to setup a printer?



I wished there was a way that I could send a Snap Shot of the window
that opens, to select how you want to print file.


There is, install a screenshot utility.

try yum search screenshot





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I do have a printer setup.

i do have a Screen Snapshot installed but you can't put screen shots on 
Fedora-user-list.


With out being able to see a screen shot when asking a question on this 
list, tends to make the replier to just guess at what he thinks the 
problem is.

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 08:55:03AM -0400, Temlakos wrote:
> Several times in the past I have shut down this computer and
> literally waited for it to cool off. It always seemed to work, at
> least nine times out of ten. But I never really believed that things
> actually worked that way. I shut it down overnight, and in the
> morning most of my problem applications started working properly
> again.

In that case, install and configure lm_sensors, and see just how hot things
are getting. Make sure your system is entirely cleaned from dust and all the
fans are spinning.

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Temlakos

On 10/08/2012 03:11 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:

On 08.10.2012, Temlakos wrote:


Beginning about an hour ago, I've been hit with a ton of application
terminations. All of them say the same thing: "Signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Which I
believe translates as "Signal segmentation violation."

[]

I bet you have hardware problems. E.g. faulty memory, heat problems or
something like that..

You should run memtest after booting from stick/CD and/or prime95 to
come closer to what's going on.



Several times in the past I have shut down this computer and literally 
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out of ten. But I never really believed that things actually worked that 
way. I shut it down overnight, and in the morning most of my problem 
applications started working properly again.

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 09:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 10/08/2012 04:38 AM, Temlakos wrote:
> > Beginning about an hour ago, I've been hit with a ton of application
> > terminations. All of them say the same thing: "Signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
> > Which I believe translates as "Signal segmentation violation."
> 
> In addition to what others already wrote, check if you aren't running 
> out of memory (run "df" and check its output).

df tells you about free disk space. It has nothing whatever to do with
RAM, besides which a lack of disk space (even in swap) would cause a
system error message, not a segfault.

poc

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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:11:13AM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> I bet you have hardware problems. E.g. faulty memory, heat problems or
> something like that..

This is likely. The other main possibility is that you've been hacked and
someone installed a rootkit that isn't perfectly compatible with your
system. Weird glitchy behavior is a common symptom.

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RE: Virtualbox Error

2012-10-08 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39179


I found a solution here, but failed to do this, there's no Applications folder.


Help?



Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor





> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:36:44 +0400
> Subject: Re: Virtualbox Error
> From: hi...@fedoraproject.org
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> 
> On 8 October 2012 09:33, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > On 10/08/2012 01:07 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
> >> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 6340877 Sep 13 15:10 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VMMR0.r0
> >
> > OK.  Some google searching suggested an ownership problem with that 
> > file  But, it is OK.
> >
> > I've got no problems running VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.22_80657_fedora17-1.x86_64.
> >
> > You may find the VBox community helpful in this case
> >
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community
> >
> 
> yum reinstall virtualbox??
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Re: Bit of a problem with FireFox in Fedora 16

2012-10-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 10/07/2012 11:30 PM, Roger wrote:
> Using my Fedora 16 on a home installation as a development system.
> 
> I have 2 sites on VPS remote server, one for dev and one as a live site
> both using Drupal 7 fully updated. Developing on the dev site, using Drupal
> 7 firefox locks up for about 3 minutes with one of my CPU's running at 98%
> with 2 gig memory running at 88%. Other CPU at 12-14%. Once the CPU and
> memory drop off it's back to normal. I do note that it seems to be only one
> function in Drupal where this happens, changing a Content Type settings. 
> Does not happen with making similar changes in the the live site which is
> on the same server but different directory.
> 
> Is it likely that SELinux may be causing this, if so how do I check and
> what should I look at to try to fix please. What other things would cause a
> lock up of firefox for  such a long time. Other apps work but slowly
> because of memory and CPU usage, mouse and keyboard works.
> 
> None of this happens with the same drupal install on my home dev system. I
> have run out of ideas on where to look to find causes so if anyone can
> advise that'd be great. Thanks in advance Roger
> 
Are you seeing AVC messages in  /var/log/audit/audit.log?  If you put the
machine into permissive mode and restart firefox, does the problem go away?

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Re: Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing

2012-10-08 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 16:08 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> One advantage of a separate /home is the ability to re-install without
> losing any of your personal files.

As I'd mentioned, though I did call it updating, it's down to the same
process - running the installer.

> Not that I'd ever do that, mind you, without backing it up first, of
> course.

Likewise, but you only have to do the backup, not a backup and a
reinstall.  So you save half the time.

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DVB TV playback not working

2012-10-08 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi 

Ever since F17 x86_64  I have not been able to watch TV via my "DIBcom
7000PC" USB Freeview  receiver  
This is a Pinicale 72e USB Freeview 

Keep getting when I run "gnome-dvb-daemon :-

"(gnome-dvb-daemon:1326): GStreamer-WARNING **: Trying to set string on
structure field 'name', but string is not valid UTF-8. Please file a
bug."

This appear continually thus stopping normal TV reception 

Any ideas how to fix this 

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Re: Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing

2012-10-08 Thread Frank Murphy

On 07/10/12 18:20, Daniel Landau wrote:


Explain what is the name of the One?


Not really sure what you mean by this. It's name is /dev/sda5 perhaps?


sudo blkid will give you uuids to match your partition(s).



Yes, reinstall


That's not really helpful.


It is actually.
Then when ready to do the move.
Ask how it can be done safely.



And that's where I'm now. Some help would be appreciated.



Ask before you commit.
A lesson hard learned.


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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 10/08/2012 04:38 AM, Temlakos wrote:

Beginning about an hour ago, I've been hit with a ton of application
terminations. All of them say the same thing: "Signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
Which I believe translates as "Signal segmentation violation."


In addition to what others already wrote, check if you aren't running 
out of memory (run "df" and check its output).


Ralf


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Re: Repeated segfaults in F17

2012-10-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.10.2012, Temlakos wrote: 

> Beginning about an hour ago, I've been hit with a ton of application
> terminations. All of them say the same thing: "Signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Which I
> believe translates as "Signal segmentation violation."
[]

I bet you have hardware problems. E.g. faulty memory, heat problems or
something like that..

You should run memtest after booting from stick/CD and/or prime95 to
come closer to what's going on.

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