date:20121210

On 12/11/2012 01:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 12/11/2012 01:36 PM, Davide Bolcioni wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I am considering purchase of one of following two HP printers:
>> - HP LaserJet Pro 100 M175nw
>> - HP LaserJet Pro M1132
>> and I am seeking opinions and experiences on the subject. Some obvious 
>> differences, such as color, networking (will use USB anyway) and price are 
>> not really an issue.
>>
>> I am interested in:
>> - how well does either work with standard Fedora 17 for scanning and
>>   printing without downloading troublesome stuff (RpmFusion is OK) ?
>> - does either require firmware ?
>> - which is the newest model ?
>> - general usage satisfaction ?
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration,
>> Davide Bolcioni
> HP printers are very well supported.  I've had various models and after 
> installing
>
> All the hplip and hpijs packages they just worked. 
>
After installing all the hplip and hpijs packages they just worked.

Description : hpijs is a collection of optimized drivers for HP printers.
: hpijs supports the DeskJet 350C, 600C, 600C Photo, 630C, Apollo
: 2000, Apollo 2100, Apollo 2560, DeskJet 800C, DeskJet 825, DeskJet
: 900, PhotoSmart, DeskJet 990C, and PhotoSmart 100 series.

And the hplip packages

Description : The Hewlett-Packard Linux Imaging and Printing Project provides
: drivers for HP printers and multi-function peripherals.

Plus there is a gui HP-Toolbox which comes in handy

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Re: Comments about HP multifunction printers ?

On 12/11/2012 01:36 PM, Davide Bolcioni wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am considering purchase of one of following two HP printers:
> - HP LaserJet Pro 100 M175nw
> - HP LaserJet Pro M1132
> and I am seeking opinions and experiences on the subject. Some obvious 
> differences, such as color, networking (will use USB anyway) and price are 
> not really an issue.
>
> I am interested in:
> - how well does either work with standard Fedora 17 for scanning and
>   printing without downloading troublesome stuff (RpmFusion is OK) ?
> - does either require firmware ?
> - which is the newest model ?
> - general usage satisfaction ?
>
> Thank you for your consideration,
> Davide Bolcioni

HP printers are very well supported.  I've had various models and after 
installing

All the hplip and hpijs packages they just worked. 

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Comments about HP multifunction printers ?

2012-12-10 Thread Davide Bolcioni

Greetings,
I am considering purchase of one of following two HP printers:
- HP LaserJet Pro 100 M175nw
- HP LaserJet Pro M1132
and I am seeking opinions and experiences on the subject. Some obvious 
differences, such as color, networking (will use USB anyway) and price are 
not really an issue.

I am interested in:
- how well does either work with standard Fedora 17 for scanning and
  printing without downloading troublesome stuff (RpmFusion is OK) ?
- does either require firmware ?
- which is the newest model ?
- general usage satisfaction ?

Thank you for your consideration,
Davide Bolcioni
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Re: Chromebook?

On 12/11/2012 09:19 AM, John Wendel wrote:
> On 12/10/2012 10:09 AM, Charlie Brune wrote:
>> Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?
>>
>> Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice. 8-)
>
> The Acer built Chromebook has an Intel processor (celeron I think).

No need to "think".  :-)

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/acer-c7-chromebook.html#specs

Yes it does  :-)



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Re: Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread John Wendel


On 12/10/2012 10:09 AM, Charlie Brune wrote:

Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?

Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice. 8-)


The Acer built Chromebook has an Intel processor (celeron I think).

Since Fedora isn't ready for the ARM based models, this looks like the 
way to go.


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Re: Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Charlie Brune  wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?

alot of fedora-arm people already have it.

> Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice.  8-)

yes, I want one too.



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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff


On 12/10/2012 12:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:


I expect that video driver regressions would be the most likely reason.


That's certainly one possibility.  Another one is using a DE that's 
getting bloated and taking up too much of the system resources.  If 
using a leaner desktop doesn't help, video drivers are the next thing to 
consider.  The nice thing about changing DE first is that it doesn't 
cost anything except a bit of time.

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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 21:49:04 +0100,
  Henrik Frisk  wrote:


I was going to not comment on this since it's a bit off topic. I've
been running Linux on this machine all along and haven't had any
issues with it before.  Why would hardware that ran Fedora 11-13
beautifully suddenly not be good for Fedora 17 (unless it's too slow


I expect that video driver regressions would be the most likely reason.
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Re: Fedora 17

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Phil Dobbin  wrote:
> As has been mentioned, I'd be sceptical about putting Linux on my
> Macbook Pro although my wife ran Ubuntu for a while with no ill effects
> on her Macbook but she was mainly using it for surfing, email, that sort
> of thing but switched back to Mac in the end.

I was going to not comment on this since it's a bit off topic. I've
been running Linux on this machine all along and haven't had any
issues with it before.  Why would hardware that ran Fedora 11-13
beautifully suddenly not be good for Fedora 17 (unless it's too slow
obviously but a too slow computer is too slow regardless of the
manufacturer)? I've run Linux on Macs for more than ten years now and
it was a bit of a struggle with the PowerPC processors but since they
switched to Intel it's worked fine. Fact is, prior to this machine I
had 2 dell laptops and as far as running Linux there's no difference
and the hardware on this particular computer is superior compared to
the two dells I've had. This is obviously not a general claim though.

Thank you all for the tips. I'll try to switch to xfce and see what
that does. Then I'll try the optimasation tips suggested to me.

Thanks!

/Henrik
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Re: Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread Mauriat Miranda

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Matthew Miller
 wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:09:28PM -0600, Charlie Brune wrote:
>> Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?
>
> Yes -- the Fedora ARM team is working on it. Check this out,
> PARTICULARLY noticing the large warning at the top of the page:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Samsung_Chromebook_2012
>
> In short, it's in progress, but not ready to go yet.
>

I'm not sure if this is already linked in there somewhere, but I saw
this blogpost the other day:
https://www.berrange.com/posts/2012/11/30/installing-fedora-17-arm-on-a-samsung-google-chromebook/

-Mauriat
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Re: Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread Dale Dellutri

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Charlie Brune  wrote:
> Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?
>
> Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice.  8-)

Not Fedora, but here's an article on Ubuntu:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-acers-199-c7-chromebook/

Use at your own risk.

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Re: Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread Matthew Miller

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:09:28PM -0600, Charlie Brune wrote:
> Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?

Yes -- the Fedora ARM team is working on it. Check this out, 
PARTICULARLY noticing the large warning at the top of the page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Samsung_Chromebook_2012

In short, it's in progress, but not ready to go yet.

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Chromebook?

2012-12-10 Thread Charlie Brune


Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?

Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice.  8-)
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Re: Fedora 17

On 10.12.2012, Phil Dobbin wrote: 

> As for emacs, I can't comment as I use vim & that doesn't suffer from bloat
> in the least :-)

I use emacs daily, and it's fast on my machine (F17).

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Re: Laptop is getting hot after resume from suspend

2012-12-10 Thread Paul W. Frields

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:02:09PM +0100, Christian Menzel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> while my Thinpad X220 normally shows 50 to 60  degrees Celsius, when
> running on normal load, it gets hot to 90 to 96 degrees Celsius after
> resume from suspend, although top does not show any CPU eating processes.
> I think I experience this behavior since switching to kernel 3.6.x.
> 
> Does this happen on other machines too? Is there a cure for it?

You're probably seeing this bug, where the GPU gets stuck in power-on
mode:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866212

I've found that if you add 'i915.i915_enable_rc6=7' to your boot line,
it will work around the bug about 60-70% of the time.  When it
doesn't, suspending and resuming again (i.e. closing lid for a few
seconds and reopening) usually makes the workaround take hold.

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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Phil Dobbin

On 12/10/2012 12:59 PM, Henrik Frisk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have now migrated to Fedora 17 (clean install) and configured and
> installed most of what I need. Though I think everything looks very
> good my computer is considerably less responsive than under fedora 13.
> I haven't worked that much yet but emacs in particular is very slow.
> Incorporating 5 messages into MH-E can take a couple of seconds. My
> hardware is a MacBook Pro 5,2, I'm running nvidia drivers. Anyone
> knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?

I'm using Fedora 17 on an Lenovo Think Centre (it's about five years
old, I think. I bought it with a 17" Lenovo screen both refurbished for
about £100) with 2 GB's of RAM enjoying the full Gnome 3 experience & it
fairly zips along.

It's running MySQL, Postgres, Mongo, Apache, Puppet, Ruby on Rails
amongst other things plus Spherical in a kvm vm & shows no ill effects
whatsoever.

As has been mentioned, I'd be sceptical about putting Linux on my
Macbook Pro although my wife ran Ubuntu for a while with no ill effects
on her Macbook but she was mainly using it for surfing, email, that sort
of thing but switched back to Mac in the end.

Also as has been mentioned, if you are struggling & suspect Gnome is the
culprit, switch to another desktop. It will speed things up for sure. As
for emacs, I can't comment as I use vim & that doesn't suffer from bloat
in the least :-)

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Re: Fedora 17

On 10.12.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote: 

> 3. Write this in /etc/rc.config

Don't know how I could write this BS. Here's the correct file:

 /etc/rc.d/rc.local

Sorry!

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Re: [389-users] creating replication user from 389-console

2012-12-10 Thread Rich Megginson

On 12/10/2012 01:12 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:

Hi Rich,

The error when changing user from uid to cn is:

Error renaming object 'dn: uid=replicator,cn=config'
The error sent by the server was:
'LDAP server is unwilling to perform. Operations on Directory Specific
Entry not allowed'

The sreenshot of the error is attached. The step that I take is inside
the Flash video as the following URL:

https://googledrive.com/host/0B2Q_4ry4aOoCc3Q5dE9jelBLbDQ/ldap.swf

Thanks.

Looks like a bug, or we just don't support renames under cn=config.

Note that you can use uid=replicator - it doesn't have to be cn=replicator.

ldap.swf

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
mailto:sharuzza...@gmail.com>> wrote:

In the URL

https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Creating_the_Supplier_Bind_DN_Entry.html

Quote:
However, although Red Hat recommends not storing simple user
entries under |cn=config| for performance reasons, it can be
useful to store special user entries such as the Directory Manager
entry or replication manager (supplier bind DN) entry under
|cn=config| since this centralizes configuration information.

Quote:

1.
Stop the Directory Server. If the server is not stopped, the
changes to the |dse.ldif| file will not be saved. See
Section 1.3, “Starting and Stopping Servers”

for more information on stopping the server.
2.
Create a new entry, such as |cn=replication
manager,cn=config|, in the |dse.ldif| file.

I cannot give the error message now, as I'm not at customer site.
When I get back to office, I will give the exact error.

Thanks.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Rich Megginson
mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com>> wrote:

On 12/05/2012 10:07 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:

Hi all,

According to RH document, if you want to create the
replication user, you must edit the dse.ldif file and put the
user information there.

No. Where does it say that you must edit the dse.ldif?

I tried to use 389-console, create user (which use
uid=repman) then try to enable cn=repman, but there is error
saying that directory server refuse to do the renaming.

Can you provide the exact error message?

What is the correct way to create cn=repman only by using 389
console?

Thanks.

https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Creating_the_Supplier_Bind_DN_Entry.html

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Re: Fedora 17

On 10.12.2012, Alan Cox wrote: 

> Throw out Gnome 3 and use Xfce as the desktop. That should get you back a
> ton of memory and video bandwidth.

I'll second that (using XFCE myself).

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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Alan Cox

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:59:28 +0100
Henrik Frisk  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have now migrated to Fedora 17 (clean install) and configured and
> installed most of what I need. Though I think everything looks very
> good my computer is considerably less responsive than under fedora 13.
> I haven't worked that much yet but emacs in particular is very slow.
> Incorporating 5 messages into MH-E can take a couple of seconds. My
> hardware is a MacBook Pro 5,2, I'm running nvidia drivers. Anyone
> knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?

Throw out Gnome 3 and use Xfce as the desktop. That should get you back a
ton of memory and video bandwidth.
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Re: Laptop is getting hot after resume from suspend

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Menzel

>
> This is probably way off, but could there be a problem with the fan not
> running after resume?
>
> No, the fan is definitely run on full speed
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Re: Fedora 17

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Heinz Diehl  wrote:
> On 10.12.2012, Henrik Frisk wrote:
>
>> Anyone knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?
>
> Here's what works for me. For deeper explanation, use Google (I'm
> sitting with my exams in statistics and have no time for explaining,
> sorry!)
>
> 1. Buy a fast(er) harddisk
>
> 2. Compile a preempt kernel with sched_autogroup and zcache enabled.
>
> 3. Write this in /etc/rc.config
>
> /sbin/blockdev --setra 8192 /dev/sda
>
> echo "cfq" > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
> echo "32" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/quantum
> echo "0" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/slice_idle
> echo "1" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/low_latency
> echo "51200" > /sys/block/sda/queue/nr_requests
>
> echo "20" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
> echo "10" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_down_factor
>
> 4. Write this in /etc/sysctl.conf:
>
> vm.swappiness = 10
> vm.vfs_cache_pressure = 50
> vm.dirty_ratio = 10
> vm.dirty_background_ratio = 5
>
> 5. Kick tracker, zeitgeist and similar performance-drags from your
> system.
>
> That's it. Works for me :-)
>
Thanks a lot, I'll try that!

/Henrik
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Re: Fedora 17

On 10.12.2012, Henrik Frisk wrote: 

> Anyone knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?

Here's what works for me. For deeper explanation, use Google (I'm
sitting with my exams in statistics and have no time for explaining,
sorry!)

1. Buy a fast(er) harddisk

2. Compile a preempt kernel with sched_autogroup and zcache enabled.

3. Write this in /etc/rc.config

/sbin/blockdev --setra 8192 /dev/sda

echo "cfq" > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
echo "32" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/quantum
echo "0" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/slice_idle
echo "1" > /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/low_latency
echo "51200" > /sys/block/sda/queue/nr_requests

echo "20" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
echo "10" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_down_factor

4. Write this in /etc/sysctl.conf:

vm.swappiness = 10
vm.vfs_cache_pressure = 50
vm.dirty_ratio = 10
vm.dirty_background_ratio = 5

5. Kick tracker, zeitgeist and similar performance-drags from your
system.

That's it. Works for me :-)

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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby


On 12/10/2012 03:59 PM, Henrik Frisk wrote:

I have now migrated to Fedora 17 (clean install)


Same here, but
- I choosed the LXDE spin
- the former version was F16 LXDE spin too

> and configured and

installed most of what I need. Though I think everything looks very
good my computer is considerably less responsive than under fedora 13.
I haven't worked that much yet but emacs in particular is very slow.


The default Emacs is 24, and without surprise, software are heavier as 
versions grow.

I noticed the same with LXDE/Openbox, GTK, LibreOffice,...



Incorporating 5 messages into MH-E can take a couple of seconds. My
hardware is a MacBook Pro 5,2, I'm running nvidia drivers. Anyone
knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?


Mmmm: Althoug being a Linux evangelist, I dont preech Mac owners to 
install Linux on a Mac ;-)



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Re: Fedora 17

2012-12-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik


Henrik Frisk writes:


Hi,

I have now migrated to Fedora 17 (clean install) and configured and
installed most of what I need. Though I think everything looks very
good my computer is considerably less responsive than under fedora 13.
I haven't worked that much yet but emacs in particular is very slow.
Incorporating 5 messages into MH-E can take a couple of seconds. My
hardware is a MacBook Pro 5,2, I'm running nvidia drivers. Anyone
knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?


I think it's just emacs.

I've noticed emacs' slowness myself. Something in emacs is causing a heavy  
X11 client/server load. It's especially noticable on comparatively lower- 
bandwidth wireless connections through an ssh tunnel.





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Fedora 17

Hi,

I have now migrated to Fedora 17 (clean install) and configured and
installed most of what I need. Though I think everything looks very
good my computer is considerably less responsive than under fedora 13.
I haven't worked that much yet but emacs in particular is very slow.
Incorporating 5 messages into MH-E can take a couple of seconds. My
hardware is a MacBook Pro 5,2, I'm running nvidia drivers. Anyone
knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?

Thanks,

/Henrik
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Re: default sound device with kde phonon/gstreamer-backend

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Malone

On 10 December 2012 08:27, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 12/10/2012 04:16 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 10 December 2012 07:15, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2012 02:16 PM, jarmo wrote:
 Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:07:19 +
 Ian Malone  kirjoitti:
> be changed on a per application basis, I can also set the fallback
> device using it (which allows KDE to play a test sound to it), but
> it's not an ideal solution and amarok seems to ignore the fallback
> device, requiring it to be explicitly changed. Not ideal. How can the
> priorities be set properly for KDE/Phonon/Gstreamer back-end?
>
>>
>>> I have 3 sound devices.  One is a USB headset while the others are
>>>
>>> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller  
>>> (HDMI)
>>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset
>>>
>>> I use pulseaudio with no problems.
>>>
>>> skype allows one to select which audio device to use for what.  So, for 
>>> ringing I use the Intel device while or my "speakers" I use the USB headset.
>>>
>> Unfortunately Amarok for one (and most KDE apps it seems), does not
>> give this option, just sends you to Phonon setup.
>>
>>> Using pavucontrol I can "show applications" (while they are running) and 
>>> the select which output device to use.
>>>
>> This is the only thing that's working and it's far from an ideal solution.
>
>
> I don't know why that would be the case.  Once I select the output for each 
> application it sticks.  Meaning that once I run an application and select 
> HDMI for use by it, the next time I run the application it will use HDMI.
>
> So, I have mplayer using HDMI to get to my TV and the application I use for 
> music to go my Intel device.
>
> Yeah, it takes a bit of setting up.  But once you have it all configured the 
> way you like itit sticks.
>

The problem is that I'm trying to update some of the wiki advice on
using Pulse and Jack and that by the time you've mentioned three
different applications that someone has to enter configuration
information into I worry most of the audience has switched off.
(Assuming they even found their way there in the first place.) So I
could live with it (if I used KDE regularly), but find myself a bit
uncomfortable explaining to people why this should be difficult.

I was hoping there might be a trick I was missing, but looks like I'll
need to chase this down as an issue with Phonon. Thanks for the
suggestions.

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Re: Can't get rpmbuild to work with gpg-agent

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:12:11 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:

> When I used to maintain Node.js packages for Fedora, I always ran
> `rpmsign --addsign` after a plain rpmbuild without the --sign.  Doing
> it this way only requires entry of the password once as long you pass
> a glob to rpmsign, and eliminates the need for a full rebuild if you
> typo the passphrase.

How many files did you sign _at once_?
If the glob matches too many files, you would need to enter the passphrase
more than once.

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Re: Upgrade Fedora 14->15

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Henrik Frisk  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I finally decided to upgrade my Fedora 13 using the software upgrade.
>> I made a succesful upgrade to 14, booted it and it worked fine. I then
>> proceeded to do 14 -> 15. Upon reboot all packages were installed but
>> at the very end the installer crashed with a very long message. I
>> saved it but couldn't do much with it. I rebooted but now I get only a
>> back screen. No grub no nothing.
>
> I wish I could give you better advice but the oldest supported release
> of Fedora is 16. I would recommend just doing a clean install of 17
> though.
>
> Richard

That's what I ended up doing in the end. Thanks!
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Re: default sound device with kde phonon/gstreamer-backend