Re: Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 27.12.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: 

> I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I do this
> when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as the Gateway?

- Connect your new HDD to your laptop (e.g. as an external drive).
- Get the new HDD partitioned and formatted
- "rsync -avxHSAX /old/partition/ /new/partition" will do a proper copy
  of your existing data
- Look into /etc/fstab and change the new partitions UUIDs to the same
  (old) UUIDs used in fstab ("man tune2fs") 
- Change the HDDs
- Install GRUB ("man grub-install")

I have done this quite often, it works.


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Re: Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 12/27/2012 12:04 AM, staticsafe wrote:

On 12/26/12 21:50, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:

I am currently using a Gateway T-6321 laptop with a 320 GB  SATA HD. I'm
finding it's running out of room, with all the pdf's and other files I
have accumulated. I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I
do this when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as
the Gateway? In other words is it possible to transfer everything from
my current HDD to the 750GB one using an external USB enclosure? will I
be able to then install the 750GB HDD and have ALLmy settings and ALL my
applications transfer over intact? Any help someone could provide would
be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!


EGO II

It is certainly possible. I find Clonezilla[0] to be very useful in
matters such as these.

[0] - http://clonezilla.org/

WOW!so much information to digest! Thanks to one and all, but after 
reading the responses, I think the Clonezilla way might be for me, I'm 
not too familiar with the Terminal and the command lines and 
suchalthough I think it would be AWESOME to be able to do such tings 
strictly from a terminalI'm also afraid since this is the only 
"working" laptop I have that connects me to the outside world...and I 
would hate to lose all the info and files on here.maybe I'll find 
some old drives and do a "test" run firstjust to be sure I've gotten 
the hang of it! Thanks again everyone!



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Re: F17 - problem with overheating

2012-12-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 27 December 2012, Paolo De Michele sent:
> I noticed that very hot without doing anything complex; the fan runs
> like crazy -

Is it actually blowing hot air, or the fans are running hard and blowing
cool air, and something else *says* that it's hot?

> I opened the laptop to see if there was dust on the cpu fan but it is
> clean

Also check the vents.  The air has to go in and out of somewhere, and if
they're blocked, it doesn't cool properly.  My laptop has a rather fine
grille on the outlet, which gets clogged up with fluff.

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Re: Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread staticsafe
On 12/26/12 21:50, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> I am currently using a Gateway T-6321 laptop with a 320 GB  SATA HD. I'm
> finding it's running out of room, with all the pdf's and other files I
> have accumulated. I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I
> do this when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as
> the Gateway? In other words is it possible to transfer everything from
> my current HDD to the 750GB one using an external USB enclosure? will I
> be able to then install the 750GB HDD and have ALLmy settings and ALL my
> applications transfer over intact? Any help someone could provide would
> be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> EGO II

It is certainly possible. I find Clonezilla[0] to be very useful in
matters such as these.

[0] - http://clonezilla.org/

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Re: [Bulk] Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread Phil Savoie

On 12/26/2012 09:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:

I am currently using a Gateway T-6321 laptop with a 320 GB SATA HD. I'm
finding it's running out of room, with all the pdf's and other files I
have accumulated. I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I
do this when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as
the Gateway? In other words is it possible to transfer everything from
my current HDD to the 750GB one using an external USB enclosure? will I
be able to then install the 750GB HDD and have ALLmy settings and ALL my
applications transfer over intact? Any help someone could provide would
be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!


EGO II

Hi,

I just replaced a smaller drive to a larger one much like you want to 
do.  My procedure was the following:


- get a copy of clonezilla and clone the drive to an external usb drive

- replace the small drive with the larger drive

- use clonezilla to populate the larger drive

- you will note that the larger drive is a clone of the smaller one, so 
you will need to grow it


- get a copy of the "System Rescue CD", boot off it and use gparted to 
grow the cloned filesystem to fill out the drive


Hope this helps,

Phil
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Re: Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik

fred smith writes:


if that doesn't get you where you need to go, you might try:
--with the new drive connected via USB
--boot from the aforementioned live CD
--create the partitions as you want them
--pray a while...
--copy all the files from each partition on the OLD drive into the
  matching partition on the NEW drive (using something akin to
  "cp -a /dev/sd ").


I do not believe that cp -a will do the right thing with hard links.

I think you want to use "rsync -a -H -A -X -S".


--install GRUB on the new drive
--oh yeah, pray some more :)
--swap new into the computer and see what you get.


It's going to be easier to swap the drive first, then boot off a live CD or  
an installation CD, let it mount the partitions on the hard drive, then drop  
to a rescue shell, then chroot /mnt/sysimage and then /sbin/grub2-install.




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Re: Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:50:07PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> I am currently using a Gateway T-6321 laptop with a 320 GB  SATA HD. I'm 
> finding it's running out of room, with all the pdf's and other files I 
> have accumulated. I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I 
> do this when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as 
> the Gateway? In other words is it possible to transfer everything from 
> my current HDD to the 750GB one using an external USB enclosure? will I 
> be able to then install the 750GB HDD and have ALLmy settings and ALL my 
> applications transfer over intact? Any help someone could provide would 
> be greatly appreciated!

I would THINK you could put the new drive in the USB enclosure then
--boot from a live cd
--use dd from the live cd to copy the entire old drive to the new drive
  MAKING SURE you you understand which /dev/whatever is the old drive, and
  which is the new drive before you start this step. You wouldn't want
  to copy a nice empty drive over your existing data...
--use gparted live CD or partitionmagic or some such to "slide" the
  partitions around on the new drive and adjust their sizes to fit
  the new drive
--then cross your fingers, pray a bit, then swap the OLD drive out
  and the new drive IN, pray a bit more, then see if the machine boots.

if that doesn't get you where you need to go, you might try:
--with the new drive connected via USB
--boot from the aforementioned live CD
--create the partitions as you want them
--pray a while...
--copy all the files from each partition on the OLD drive into the
  matching partition on the NEW drive (using something akin to
  "cp -a /dev/sd ").
--install GRUB on the new drive
--oh yeah, pray some more :)
--swap new into the computer and see what you get.

In either case, as long as you've been careful to NOT copy the new drive
on top of your old one, even if it doesn't work, all it's cost you is
some time. But I would expect either one of those to be doable.


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Swapping HDD....

2012-12-26 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
I am currently using a Gateway T-6321 laptop with a 320 GB  SATA HD. I'm 
finding it's running out of room, with all the pdf's and other files I 
have accumulated. I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I 
do this when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as 
the Gateway? In other words is it possible to transfer everything from 
my current HDD to the 750GB one using an external USB enclosure? will I 
be able to then install the 750GB HDD and have ALLmy settings and ALL my 
applications transfer over intact? Any help someone could provide would 
be greatly appreciated!


Thanks!


EGO II
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Re: F17 - problem with overheating

2012-12-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:29:43 -0500 Jim  wrote:

> On 12/26/2012 06:11 PM, Paolo De Michele wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > I've installed F17 on my laptop Sony VPCEB4C4E 32bit (KDE)
> > I noticed that very hot without doing anything complex; the fan runs like
> > crazy -
> >
> > I opened the laptop to see if there was dust on the cpu fan but it is clean
> > I noticed that maybe when I watch a video, I look at the mail (thunderbird,
> > kmail) or do a bit of multitasking then the fan runs a lot (the cpu never
> > reaches 100%)
> >
> > what can be the problem?
> > thanks in advance
> > cheers
> Do you have the laptop setting on flat surface so air can get into 
> bottom of laptop.
> I have seen people have their laptop setting on their bed and it could 
> not get any air to the bottom.
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Also, have you tried it with other Fedora and non-Fedora
distributions/OS/releases? I would first make sure that the problem is
isolated to Fedora 17 and not the hardware, kernel, etc.


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Re: F17 - problem with overheating

2012-12-26 Thread Jim

On 12/26/2012 06:11 PM, Paolo De Michele wrote:

hi all,

I've installed F17 on my laptop Sony VPCEB4C4E 32bit (KDE)
I noticed that very hot without doing anything complex; the fan runs like
crazy -

I opened the laptop to see if there was dust on the cpu fan but it is clean
I noticed that maybe when I watch a video, I look at the mail (thunderbird,
kmail) or do a bit of multitasking then the fan runs a lot (the cpu never
reaches 100%)

what can be the problem?
thanks in advance
cheers
Do you have the laptop setting on flat surface so air can get into 
bottom of laptop.
I have seen people have their laptop setting on their bed and it could 
not get any air to the bottom.

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F17 - problem with overheating

2012-12-26 Thread Paolo De Michele
hi all,

I've installed F17 on my laptop Sony VPCEB4C4E 32bit (KDE)
I noticed that very hot without doing anything complex; the fan runs like 
crazy -

I opened the laptop to see if there was dust on the cpu fan but it is clean
I noticed that maybe when I watch a video, I look at the mail (thunderbird, 
kmail) or do a bit of multitasking then the fan runs a lot (the cpu never 
reaches 100%)

what can be the problem?
thanks in advance
cheers
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Pasha R wrote:

You can also try pitivi from fedora repositories - it doesn't have many of the
features openshot and kdenlive have, but it is good enough for simple editing.
Also, if you choose avidemux, don't use gtk frontend - in my experience, it is
buggy as hell, while qt frontend is much more stable.

I'm happy to say I went to the qt immediately, for no better reason other than 
it was the first thing I saw. I've heard of pitivi, will put that on my 
"investigate" list along with several other fine suggestions.



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Richard Shaw wrote:

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:

I am looking for something to edit video and snip a few passages out to
save. Something like audacity for video. I am loading avidemux as I type,
but the avi format seems to have limitations which are much more restrictive
than mpg. The OReilly "Multimedia" book is seven years old, and is more like
a history book than a useful user guide by now.


Back to the original question :)

It appears you already have RPM Fusion repository installed?

That being the case I would recommend Openshot or Kdenlive. They are
much newer alternatives to Kino which last I checked was really only
designed for editing DV recordings (no HD).

Openshot is largely python based and has a nice interface and is
pretty simple to use. Kdenlive (as the name suggests) uses the KDE
libraries and in KDE fashion is powerful but also more complicated.
You may want to avoid this if you don't have KDE installed and don't
want to pull in a bunch of deps.

I don't run KDE, but I certainly have in the past and would use a KDE tool if it 
did what I want. I could even install a VM to run KDE and video if that seemed 
like a good way to get at the tools. I'll keep these suggestions handy, may try 
Openshot, since I can use it in my current environment, and wait for a need 
before going to something more powerful.




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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Bill Oliver wrote:


If all you need is simple editing, I've been a fan of kino
(http://kinodv.org/).   If you do a little modeling, then the blender video
sequence editor (Blender VSE, www.blender3d.org) may be an option.

billo

I shall take a look, although avidemux seems to have gotten me to the "can do in 
reasonable time" point. I mainly need to merge meeting video and such into 
archival DVD, and occasionally drop out some material which would not be in the 
secretary's notes and shouldn't be part of the record, such as discussion of 
disciplinary matters on which no action is taken, personal exchanges, etc.


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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:15:12 +1030
Tim wrote:


Convert to an uncompressed format, edit that, then encode the
output using the compression scheme that you want.


Yea, I almost always convert anything I want to edit to
something like huffyuv, making sure I have a giant amount
of free space available, then I can use avidemux on it.
Something like this usually works for the video bits:

mencoder -ovc lavc -lavcopts format=422p:vcodec=huffyuv \
  -o .avi .avi

Audio though is always screwed up. Heck, most audio
seems to be already screwed up in the source material,
and it always gets worse during editing.

I have noticed that I get a lot of .TS files with seemingly unsynced audio. 
However, if I encode them reading with "-async 200" on the input, by magic the 
audio is synced again, or at least in most cases. It really has allowed me to 
catch a lot of things and fix them after the fact, for which I am grateful.


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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Fernando Cassia wrote:



On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Roberto Ragusa mailto:m...@robertoragusa.it>> wrote:

H? Having an additional intermediate encoding to avoid re-encoding
artifacts???


By converting to very high quality MPEG2 you avoid issues with AVI, XVID, H.264
encoding and decoding which a lot of programs handle differently (you can get
different results just by using different builds of FFMPEG).


I found that the hard way.


For instance, it´s impossible to do frame-accurate cutting with a lot of AVI
cutters, whereas on MPEG2 cuts are frame-perfect. Don´t ask me why, I´m not a
codecs writer just an end user of many video cutting tools. And this is based on
my personal experience.

I have found that writing from avidemux gives many warnings about just this, if 
you don't reencode it sometimes crashes.



MPEG2 is the codec used on broadcast HDTV, and while it´s much less efficient
than H.264, it´s less CPU intensive for applications to work with.


I would like to save it in a format which didn't get reencoded for use on a DVD 
if I have to distribute the video (lots of meetings and such). Most of the 
mastering tools I have tried are no happy to just use what they find. But at 
least I have a tool chain which gets my job done, so I am not complaining.



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Fernando Cassia wrote:



On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Bill Davidsen mailto:david...@tmr.com>> wrote:

I am looking for something to edit video and snip a few passages out to 
save.


I usually convert the source file(s) to MPEG2, edit as necessary on MPEG2, and
then encode to the final format (mp4 or H.264) as the last step once the result
is the one desired.

That saves a lot of hassle with codecs, and re-encoding artifacts...

Just my $0.02
FC

Thank you (all of you), avidemux will do the clipping and such that I wanted, 
although the output formats available are either not quite what I want or have 
different names than I expect. In any case, I can get the job done, that's the 
main thing. I saved you suggestion, I will certainly keep it and some others if 
I find my needs have expanded.



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Re: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth] : 211 time(s)

2012-12-26 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 25.12.2012 10:34, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:34:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>> is it possible on systems with selinux completly disabled to
>>> get rid of this messages in /var/log/secure everytime a
>>> ssh-session is opened?
>>>
>>> Dec 25 04:33:28 localhost sshd[10980]: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth]
>>
>> What you haven't told:
>> Does it print that even if you disable the feature in sshd_config?
> 
> how?
> 
> i have not enabled anything selinux related

openssh-5.9p1 (-28.fc17) seems be patched by some openssh-5.9p1-sesandbox.patch
which hardly print this message (if selinux disabled):

...
diff -up openssh-5.9p1/openbsd-compat/port-linux.c.sesandbox 
openssh-5.9p1/openbsd-compat/port-linux.c
--- openssh-5.9p1/openbsd-compat/port-linux.c.sesandbox 2011-09-19 
04:10:14.731521450 +0200
+++ openssh-5.9p1/openbsd-compat/port-linux.c   2011-09-19 04:10:15.292521265 
+0200
...
int ssh_selinux_change_context(const char *newname)
 {
...
if (!ssh_selinux_enabled())
-   return;
+   return -2;


+void ssh_sandbox_privileged_child(struct ssh_sandbox *box)
+{
+   switch (ssh_selinux_change_context("sshd_sandbox_t")) {
+   case 0:
+   debug3("selinux sandbox child sucessfully enabled");
+   break;
+   case -2:
+   logit("selinux sandbox not useful");
+   break;
...

Thus right way perhaps is improve this patch (bugzilla?)

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Re: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth] : 211 time(s)

2012-12-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:42:39 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 25.12.2012 10:34, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> > On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:34:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > 
> >> is it possible on systems with selinux completly disabled to
> >> get rid of this messages in /var/log/secure everytime a
> >> ssh-session is opened?
> >>
> >> Dec 25 04:33:28 localhost sshd[10980]: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth]
> > 
> > What you haven't told:
> > Does it print that even if you disable the feature in sshd_config?
> 
> how?
> 
> i have not enabled anything selinux related

What do you get for "grep sandbox /etc/ssh/sshd_config"?

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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/26/2012 03:21 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

C) if you _realy_ enough mem, put /var and /tmp on tmpfs (eg, in mem)


And where does /var go when you turn your machine off?
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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote:


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:44:46 -0600,
 Michael Hennebry  wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

That said, the latest fedora I could install was F14.
I'm running CentOS as my main OS now,
but I keep F14 around in case I need it for something.


What was blocking the install? If it was memory? You should be able to 
install f17 on a machine with 512 MB again. With less memory, you might be 
able to do yum upgrades, but that will be painful.


I'm not really sure.
'Twasn't memory, I've the full 4 GB.
There was a kernel bug that broke my motherboard in F15 or F16.
Supposedly that was fixed, but F17 didn't work either.
I've written articles on the subject.
I managed to do a net-install of CentOS on the first attempt,
so I'm reasonably happy on the Linux front.
I might try F20, just to see if it works.

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Re: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth] : 211 time(s)

2012-12-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.12.2012 10:34, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:34:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>> is it possible on systems with selinux completly disabled to
>> get rid of this messages in /var/log/secure everytime a
>> ssh-session is opened?
>>
>> Dec 25 04:33:28 localhost sshd[10980]: selinux sandbox not useful [preauth]
> 
> What you haven't told:
> Does it print that even if you disable the feature in sshd_config?

how?

i have not enabled anything selinux related



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Re: unmount usb disk

2012-12-26 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/26/2012 10:36 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote:
>> Try "lsof /run/"
> i have logged off, but as far as i can argue...doing lsof /run/
> i would have found some other proc locking /mnt...and then? kill -9 it?
> Is there any command to do it in a safe manner?
> if not, this is something that should be add to distro :)
> m.
> 
> 
> 

For F17, USB mounted devices are mounted under /run/username/media, not
under /mnt

So, if you can figure out what process might have the device open, you
can close it normally, do a normal kill or, as a last resort kill -9.

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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread jdow

In the past in theme park ride applications we've had audio on SSDs.
The same audio gets read every few minutes virtually every day of the
year. Eventually the audio files developed bad spots. We started
recommending they record a full day's worth of the audio and play
sequentially to the end of the recording before starting over. That
solved the bad spots caused by reads.

This was a few years ago. Times might have changed. I am still leery
of SSDs, though.

{^_^}

On 2012/12/26 03:21, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

Just my 2 cents, though personal experience.

18 months ago i replaced on a machine the traditional hdd with a sdd. And
indeed, it started and worked like greased lightning.
However, i installed it like i used to do, with swap
One year (and many patches) later, i got that many bad blocks that the sdd was
completely useless.

So sdd has it merrits but:
A) no swap on sdd, so either enough mem, or swap on traditional hddm
B) keep things like /var so on hdd
C) if you _realy_ enough mem, put /var and /tmp on tmpfs (eg, in mem)

Hans


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*Verzonden*: Friday, December 21, 2012 08:23 PM W. Europe Standard Time
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*Onderwerp*: Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

On 12/21/2012 11:51 AM, Alan Evans wrote:

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:

You mean that all this hype over SSD's and they're LIMITED? I thought they
were supposed to be BETTER than the spinning drives of today? Exaclty how
are they better if they come "out-of-the-box" with limitations? Just
curious...


It's well known that flash devices have a limited number of writes. This
number is pretty high, though. And with caching and load-balancing built into
the drive's firmware, it is typically not a major concern.

However, although SSD devices have lightning-fast read performance, writing to
them is considerably slower. Think of the difference between reading a big
file from a flash thumb drive versus writing a big file. That doesn't mean
that you should never write to them, but if the intended use involves writing
very frequently (like /var or /tmp) then it might not be a good fit.

Also, SSD is much more expensive, byte-for-byte, than a hard drive. If you
want a lot storage (my /home partition is well over a terabyte) then SSD is
pretty cost prohibitive.

On the other hand, my system drive is SSD and, because of the fast read
performance, my computer boots, after the BIOS screen, in four seconds. From
the login screen to my desktop is another 2-3 seconds. Starting even very
large applications is pretty snappy.



WOW!.talk about speeding up. Well I have a Gateway laptop so there's not
physical way I could do 2 different types of drives, but I also have a CentOS
desktop, maybe I can do it there, is SSD something that an old "Pentium 4" PC
could use? I think I'll look into this...do some Googling! Thanks for the info!


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Re: unmount usb disk

2012-12-26 Thread Maurizio Marini
> Try "lsof /run/"
i have logged off, but as far as i can argue...doing lsof /run/
i would have found some other proc locking /mnt...and then? kill -9 it?
Is there any command to do it in a safe manner?
if not, this is something that should be add to distro :)
m.


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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:44:46 -0600,
  Michael Hennebry  wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

That said, the latest fedora I could install was F14.
I'm running CentOS as my main OS now,
but I keep F14 around in case I need it for something.


What was blocking the install? If it was memory? You should be able to 
install f17 on a machine with 512 MB again. With less memory, you might 
be able to do yum upgrades, but that will be painful.

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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:


WOW!.talk about speeding up. Well I have a Gateway laptop so there's not physical way 
I could do 2 different types of drives, but I also have a CentOS desktop, maybe I can do 
it there, is SSD something that an old "Pentium 4" PC could use? I think I'll 
look into this...do some Googling! Thanks for the info!


Wadda ya mean old?
My Pentium 4 isn't even seven years old.
I managed to install an additional hard drive all by myself.
I also managed to zap the video card,
but the hard drive still worked.

That said, the latest fedora I could install was F14.
I'm running CentOS as my main OS now,
but I keep F14 around in case I need it for something.

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Re: unmount usb disk

2012-12-26 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/26/2012 09:29 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote:
> This is a fedora 17 x64.1  
> 
> I have attached my backup usb disk and now I would unmount it.
> I am unable to unmount it as some processes lock it.
> 
> 
> f17 16:19:37 root@tikal: / # lsof /mnt/
> COMMAND PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFFNODE NAME
> nepomukse 26624 maumar   15r   DIR   8,1716384 4276225 /mnt/etc
> nepomukse 26624 maumar   16r   DIR   8,17 4096 4276258 /mnt/etc/avahi
> nepomukse 26624 maumar   28r   DIR   8,17 4096   2 /mnt
> 
> f17 16:22:11 root@tikal: / # fuser /mnt/
> /mnt:26
> 
> 
> What it the safe way to umount it?
> I am tempted to pull usb cable and disconnect it, but i feel that some process
> will reclaim the device complaing until i reboot the notebook.
> 
> please advice
> 
> many thnx
> 
> -m
> 
> 
> 

Try "lsof /run/"

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unmount usb disk

2012-12-26 Thread Maurizio Marini
This is a fedora 17 x64.1  

I have attached my backup usb disk and now I would unmount it.
I am unable to unmount it as some processes lock it.


f17 16:19:37 root@tikal: / # lsof /mnt/
COMMAND PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFFNODE NAME
nepomukse 26624 maumar   15r   DIR   8,1716384 4276225 /mnt/etc
nepomukse 26624 maumar   16r   DIR   8,17 4096 4276258 /mnt/etc/avahi
nepomukse 26624 maumar   28r   DIR   8,17 4096   2 /mnt

f17 16:22:11 root@tikal: / # fuser /mnt/
/mnt:26


What it the safe way to umount it?
I am tempted to pull usb cable and disconnect it, but i feel that some process
will reclaim the device complaing until i reboot the notebook.

please advice

many thnx

-m


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Re: Laptop Intel wireless card as access point (reply nr 2)

2012-12-26 Thread Rami Rosen
Hi,
You can take a look in this table, in the AP column:
http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers

In the past, you could test for master mode by
"iwconfig wlan0 mode master". In recent kernels
it is not supported, so don't try it (it gives error also with devices
that support 80211.n).

The right way to test it is indeed with hostapd. It could be
that you better try with the git tree of hostapd in case you have
quirks with the rpm hostapd.

Good Luck!

Rami Rosen

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https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/networkoverview

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> On 12/25/2012 03:36 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:12:01PM +0530, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to configure the wireless card on my ThinkPad as a wireless
>>> access point for my Android phone.  But it seems the Intel iwlwifi
>>> drivers do not support "master mode".  Can someone confirm?  In case I'm
>>> wrong, could you please point me to any documentation as to how I can
>>> configure this?
>>
>> As a follow up to my first reply.
>>
>> I got curious and found the following:
>> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd
>>
>> Seems like a lot of work.
>
> When doing this a few months ago, it was quite easy.
> You do not have to download or compile anything on Fedora,
> just a couple of easy things in the conf file and it is
> working perfectly.
>
> But this was not on iwlwifi, it was a random wifi USB dongle
> which happened to have a good chipset.
> I'm curious to know if it is possible to do that with iwlwifi.
> (the kernel version is important in these cases)
>
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Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-26 Thread J.Witvliet
Just my 2 cents, though personal experience.

18 months ago i replaced on a machine the traditional hdd with a sdd. And 
indeed, it started and worked like greased lightning.
However, i installed it like i used to do, with swap
One year (and many patches) later, i got that many bad blocks that the sdd was 
completely useless.

So sdd has it merrits but:
A) no swap on sdd, so either enough mem, or swap on traditional hddm
B) keep things like /var so on hdd
C) if you _realy_ enough mem, put /var and /tmp on tmpfs (eg, in mem)

Hans


Van: Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. [mailto:eoconno...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Friday, December 21, 2012 08:23 PM W. Europe Standard Time
Aan: Community support for Fedora users 
Onderwerp: Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

On 12/21/2012 11:51 AM, Alan Evans wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
You mean that all this hype over SSD's and they're LIMITED? I thought they were 
supposed to be BETTER than the spinning drives of today? Exaclty how are they 
better if they come "out-of-the-box" with limitations? Just curious...

It's well known that flash devices have a limited number of writes. This number 
is pretty high, though. And with caching and load-balancing built into the 
drive's firmware, it is typically not a major concern.

However, although SSD devices have lightning-fast read performance, writing to 
them is considerably slower. Think of the difference between reading a big file 
from a flash thumb drive versus writing a big file. That doesn't mean that you 
should never write to them, but if the intended use involves writing very 
frequently (like /var or /tmp) then it might not be a good fit.

Also, SSD is much more expensive, byte-for-byte, than a hard drive. If you want 
a lot storage (my /home partition is well over a terabyte) then SSD is pretty 
cost prohibitive.

On the other hand, my system drive is SSD and, because of the fast read 
performance, my computer boots, after the BIOS screen, in four seconds. From 
the login screen to my desktop is another 2-3 seconds. Starting even very large 
applications is pretty snappy.


WOW!.talk about speeding up. Well I have a Gateway laptop so there's not 
physical way I could do 2 different types of drives, but I also have a CentOS 
desktop, maybe I can do it there, is SSD something that an old "Pentium 4" PC 
could use? I think I'll look into this...do some Googling! Thanks for the info!


EGO II

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