Re: Kernel panic during boot - what now?

2013-01-21 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 22 January 2013 01:22, Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
> Reindl Harald writes:
>
>> some years ago you had the possibility to boot from
>> install DVD in rescue mode and "chroot /sysimage"
>> but these days all this extended options seems to
>> go away or perfectly hidden
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that the F18 install image has a boot option for rescue mode
> that'll automount everything and give you a shell.
>

I could always remove the SSD from the crashed system and mount it on
a different machine. But any ideas what to do then? Replacing systemd
with an earlier version? And what could have been the reason for the
kernel panic in the first place? An unfortunate race condition during
'yum update' that I just happened to run into? Some unfortunate
combination of services and configuration?

/Markus
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Re: How to use a sound theme?

2013-01-21 Thread g

On 01/22/2013 02:50 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> g writes:
>> On 01/20/2013 03:42 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>> How do I go about switching to a different sound theme?
>>>
>>> Gnome's control center only lets me choose one of four lame sounds from
>>> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts.
>>>
>>> I have a whole bunch of complete sound themes in /usr/share/sounds, but I
>>> can't figure out how to use them in F18.
>>
>> i use kde, but i imagine same should work for gnome.
>>
>> have you considered coping or linking your 'sounds' files to
>> the 'alert' directory?
> 
> Yeah, I considered it.
> 
> I mean, manually hacking it, like this, is a no-brainer.

i would not call it a hack.

"/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts" is where gnome intended them
to be. changing location from where gnome set it up is a hack.

> But, it's rather depressing that I have to resort to this kind of crap.

what do you mean 'resort'. all you would be doing is following gnome's
setup.

if there is any 'crap', you need to go wipe.

you are wanting to change a location that does not need to be changed.

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Re: Nautilus sidepane tree view

2013-01-21 Thread Joachim Backes
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On 01/22/2013 12:24 AM, ergodic wrote:
> Any possibility to have the some of the previous schema restored
> to nautilus-3.6.3-4.fc18.x86_64?
> 
> For instance the missing sidebar tree view hinders Nautilus
> functionality.
> 
> 

Hi ergodic,

1. Install gconf-editor
2. gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->preferences->start_with_sidebar
   should be enabled!

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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Re: Blinking wireless LED in Elitebook 8440p

2013-01-21 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I have either HP probook, where I have to know that hp wmi driver is
not really in good shape, and sometimes the BIOS is also leaky. I
suggest check for BIOS upgrade, and check the rfkill stats - maybe
some part are not really trully enabled, or the driver has some flaws.
Lets hope the driver not plays quick fibrillation flip-flop...

HTH,

Zoltan

2013/1/22 Bruno Martins :
> Hey list,
>
> I have recently acquired an HP Elitebook 8440p machine and I am facing a
> very strange problem that is: sometimes (randomly) my wireless LED starts
> blinking.
> Red and blue (as an on/off switch) but network connectivity is not affected,
> it's just the LED blinking...
>
> My system:
> [skorzen@8440p ~]$ lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev
> 02)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series
> Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network
> Connection (rev 05)
> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2
> Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High
> Definition Audio (rev 05)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI
> Express Root Port 1 (rev 05)
> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI
> Express Root Port 2 (rev 05)
> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI
> Express Root Port 4 (rev 05)
> 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2
> Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a5)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface
> Controller (rev 05)
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6
> port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
> 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series
> Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 05)
> 43:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev
> 35)
> 44:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev
> 06)
> 44:06.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host
> Adapter (rev 25)
> 44:06.2 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev bb)
> ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture
> Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
> ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture
> System Address Decoder (rev 02)
> ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
> ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev
> 02)
> ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
> ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
>
> Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot this issue?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bruno Martins
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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread David G . Miller
Patrick O'Callaghan  gmail.com> writes:

> 
Lots of SNIPPING
> From
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Direct_options
> 
> The arguments  of the passthrough option are the same as
> the corresponding iptables, ip6tables and ebtables arguments.
> 
> poc
> 
So, could I just write a shell script that reads my /etc/sysconfig/iptables file
and does a passthrough call for each rule?  And then go through the dainbramage
to get systemctl to execute rc.local to get it executed at startup?

I'm not so much worried about normal rules like opening a specific port as
custom rules like filtering malformed packets, disallowing multiple connect
attempts from the same IP address, etc.

Somehow I don't see the GUI as letting me craft rules like:

# The next two rules prevent non-standard TCP packets from evading the firewall.

-A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,FIN SYN,FIN -j LOG --log-prefix "packet with
FIN+SYN rec'd: "
-A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,FIN SYN,FIN -j DROP

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F18: Gnome panel icons w a s t e s p a c e !

2013-01-21 Thread NOSpaze
Hi. 

After update to F18, my gnome panel icons (20px) spacings are too wide
(perhaps 1cm, fallback mode).

Googled, tried modifying spacings width gconf-editor, gconftool-2
gtk-widgets.css, ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini, but no success. They
are still wasting space.

Am I missing something? How can I reduce this space wasting?

Thanks! F18 going well as far...
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Re: How to use a sound theme?

2013-01-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik

g writes:



On 01/20/2013 03:42 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> How do I go about switching to a different sound theme?
>
> Gnome's control center only lets me choose one of four lame sounds from
> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts.
>
> I have a whole bunch of complete sound themes in /usr/share/sounds, but I
> can't figure out how to use them in F18.

i use kde, but i imagine same should work for gnome.

have you considered coping or linking your 'sounds' files to
the 'alert' directory?


Yeah, I considered it.

I mean, manually hacking it, like this, is a no-brainer.

But, it's rather depressing that I have to resort to this kind of crap.



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Re: How to use a sound theme?

2013-01-21 Thread g

On 01/20/2013 03:42 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> How do I go about switching to a different sound theme?
> 
> Gnome's control center only lets me choose one of four lame sounds from  
> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts.
> 
> I have a whole bunch of complete sound themes in /usr/share/sounds, but I  
> can't figure out how to use them in F18.

i use kde, but i imagine same should work for gnome.

have you considered coping or linking your 'sounds' files to
the 'alert' directory?

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Re: Battery life improved with F18

2013-01-21 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Check in command line too, the acpi/bat0 available in cli either. If
it says the same, then you win. But ordinary laptops average is not
more just 3-4 hours (or with huge battery longer, but thats rare),
some netbooks more, and smartbooks (ARM) logically has the longest
cca. 5-10 hours. Are you sure that your platform is that such?

2013/1/21 William Murray :
>Thanks guys,
>   I don't know what you did, but after upgrading my laptop
> FC17->FC18 I
> saw a 5 hr battery life being quoted - I never saw that long before.
>
> It may be something to do with optimus? My nvidia video card is not working
> inF18 as there
> is no bumblebee rpm yet, but maybe someone worked out how to switch it off
> by default?
> (suits me). Anyway, I'm happy!
>   Bill
>
>
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Re: Battery life improved with F18

2013-01-21 Thread g

On 01/21/2013 05:35 PM, William Murray wrote:
> Thanks guys,
> I don't know what you did, but after upgrading my laptop FC17->FC18 I
> saw a 5 hr battery life being quoted - I never saw that long before.

watch out.

it may well be that you found a bug in battery monitor.

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Re: Inspiron HHDD not recognized at installation

2013-01-21 Thread Ivan Pazmiño
Ha, funny answer.
Thanks for your help, I'll try to answer your questions best possible.

Yeah, what I meant was hard disk drive.
I'm trying to install linux over a win8 laptop.
I need to have it to boot on win and linux.
The installation I tried was the only one in the boot menu screen.

Regards,
IP
El 21/01/2013 20:34, "g"  escribió:

>
> On 01/22/2013 12:21 AM, Iván Pazmiño wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> not right now.
>
> i can not answer all of your questions, but i can get you headed in
>
> > I was trying to install fedora 18 on a Dell Inspiron 14z but the HHDD
>
> please set line wrap to somewhere between 76 and 80 characters per line.
>
> > Any ideas on the HHDD issue?
>
> just 1. what is an "HHDD"?
>
> if you mean "hard disk drive", "hd" is preferred.
>
> what type of installation are you trying to make?
>
> do you currently have linux installed or is this your first?
>
> if you do have a linux install, what do you get from;
>
>]$ lspci
>
> do you have a linux live cd/dvd?
>
> --
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> peace out.
>
> tc.hago,
>
> g
> .
>
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Re: Where else to look? (aka Can't think of a Better Subject)

2013-01-21 Thread g

On 01/21/2013 10:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> 1: Where else can I check to see if someone is still in another area
> of the Project?
<>

your answer is in postmasters message;

> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

so ask what happened to him. i hate to say, he could have died.

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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/21/2013 09:26 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Not necessarily, you could do what I did:
> 
> systemctl mask firewalld.service
> systemctl enable iptables.service
> systemctl enable ip6tables.service

That's great!  Thanks Tom.

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Re: Inspiron HHDD not recognized at installation

2013-01-21 Thread g

On 01/22/2013 12:21 AM, Iván Pazmiño wrote:
> Hi,

not right now.

i can not answer all of your questions, but i can get you headed in

> I was trying to install fedora 18 on a Dell Inspiron 14z but the HHDD

please set line wrap to somewhere between 76 and 80 characters per line.

> Any ideas on the HHDD issue?

just 1. what is an "HHDD"?

if you mean "hard disk drive", "hd" is preferred.

what type of installation are you trying to make?

do you currently have linux installed or is this your first?

if you do have a linux install, what do you get from;

   ]$ lspci

do you have a linux live cd/dvd?

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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:13:03 -0800
Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Does that mean that any old config in /etc/sysconfig/iptables is no
> longer used?

They could have made firewalld load any existing iptables
sysconfig files at startup, but that's what'd they'd expect
you to do! (works best if imagine Lloyd Bridges saying it :-).
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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:45:25 -0400
Jorge Fábregas wrote:

> I wish there was more info than that.  It appears that I'll have to
> throw away everything I know about iptables.

Not necessarily, you could do what I did:

systemctl mask firewalld.service
systemctl enable iptables.service
systemctl enable ip6tables.service

and Bob's yer Uncle!
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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/21/2013 03:45 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> On 01/21/2013 01:00 PM, David Highley wrote:
>>>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD/
>> Yes, I read that information. 
> I wish there was more info than that.  It appears that I'll have to
> throw away everything I know about iptables.  Is there any tool to
> convert current iptables rules into firewall-cmd equivalents?
>
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Wait, so firewalld completely replaced iptables? I thought it was meant
to just augment it...
Does that mean that any old config in /etc/sysconfig/iptables is no
longer used?


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Re: Kernel panic during boot - what now?

2013-01-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Reindl Harald writes:


some years ago you had the possibility to boot from
install DVD in rescue mode and "chroot /sysimage"
but these days all this extended options seems to
go away or perfectly hidden


I'm pretty sure that the F18 install image has a boot option for rescue mode  
that'll automount everything and give you a shell.





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Inspiron HHDD not recognized at installation

2013-01-21 Thread Iván Pazmiño
Hi,

I was trying to install fedora 18 on a Dell Inspiron 14z but the HHDD was not 
recognized by the installer. It prompted a message asking me to hook a hard 
drive to the system and restart the installation. None of the network 
interfaces were recognized either, but I saw that was a normal issue I should 
take care of later.

Any ideas on the HHDD issue?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Iván Pazmiño 

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Blinking wireless LED in Elitebook 8440p

2013-01-21 Thread Bruno Martins

Hey list,

I have recently acquired an HP Elitebook 8440p machine and I am facing a 
very strange problem that is: sometimes (randomly) my wireless LED 
starts blinking.
Red and blue (as an on/off switch) but network connectivity is not 
affected, it's just the LED blinking...


My system:
[skorzen@8440p ~]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller 
(rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series 
Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 05)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 
USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 
High Definition Audio (rev 05)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI 
Express Root Port 1 (rev 05)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI 
Express Root Port 2 (rev 05)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI 
Express Root Port 4 (rev 05)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 
USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a5)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC 
Interface Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 
6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 
Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 05)
43:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 
(rev 35)
44:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller 
(rev 06)
44:06.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro 
Host Adapter (rev 25)

44:06.2 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev bb)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath 
Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath 
Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02)

ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 
(rev 02)

ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)

Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot this issue?

Best regards,

Bruno Martins
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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 19:45 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> On 01/21/2013 01:00 PM, David Highley wrote:
> >>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD/
> >> > 
> > Yes, I read that information. 
> 
> I wish there was more info than that.  It appears that I'll have to
> throw away everything I know about iptables.  Is there any tool to
> convert current iptables rules into firewall-cmd equivalents?
> 
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From
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Direct_options

The arguments  of the passthrough option are the same as
the corresponding iptables, ip6tables and ebtables arguments.

poc

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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/21/2013 01:00 PM, David Highley wrote:
>>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD/
>> > 
> Yes, I read that information. 

I wish there was more info than that.  It appears that I'll have to
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convert current iptables rules into firewall-cmd equivalents?

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Nautilus sidepane tree view

2013-01-21 Thread ergodic
Any possibility to have the some of the previous schema restored to 
nautilus-3.6.3-4.fc18.x86_64? 

For instance the missing sidebar tree view hinders Nautilus functionality. 
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Re: Boot Fedora 18 from LiveCD ISO file

2013-01-21 Thread Edward M

On 1/21/2013 3:13 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:


}

EOF

But it fails, it says something like

 /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist
/dev/mapper/live-rw does not exist


 I haven't figured it out how to wirte the root option. Please could 
you help me?





while back I was thinking about giving this method a try, never got 
to it, however

 i did find  two websites offering some knowledge:

  https://gist.github.com/2132076
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557426


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Re: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf

2013-01-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/21/2013 01:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:40:43 -0800
> Konstantin Svist wrote:
>
>> Still does it during yum update, though
> Maybe the root user needs the same ~/.fonts.conf fix?

you're right, that must've been it

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Re: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf

2013-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:40:43 -0800
Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Still does it during yum update, though

Maybe the root user needs the same ~/.fonts.conf fix?
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Re: [May be OT] Linux box as Load-balancer

2013-01-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Jan2013 15:37, Patrick Lists  wrote:
| On 01/21/2013 03:24 PM, Jatin K wrote:
| > I need your helpI want to configure a Linux box with 3 NIC, (
| > Centos/RHEL ) as a load balancer/fail-over mechanism  for 2 windows web
| > application server , if any app server goes down user must not be
| > affected by the failure. And if both app servers are up they should be
| > load-balanced.
| >
| > what configurations are required on Linux box...???
| 
| Maybe use something like http://haproxy.1wt.eu/

+1 to that.

We've been using haproxy for years. It is really good.
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Re: Fonts missing

2013-01-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:18:51 -0200
Lailah wrote:

> I have 2 users in this system, and fonts are around 300MBs.

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/rpm.html

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Re: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf

2013-01-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/19/2013 05:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> So all sorts of apps I run from the command line
> spew this message:
>
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading 
> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
>
> If it is gonna spew to the terminal anyway, wouldn't
> it have been nice if the message said something about
> where it now wants to read the config from?
>
> After much googling, the algorithm is apparently:
>
> mkdir .config/fontconfig
> mv .fonts.conf .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
>
> The spewage went away after I did that.

Still does it during yum update, though

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Re: Fonts missing

2013-01-21 Thread Lailah
El dom, 20-01-2013 a las 20:33 +0200, Veeti Paananen escribió:

> On 01/20/2013 04:45 PM, Lailah wrote:
> > 
> > Hello everybody!  Happy new year!
> > 
> > I've just installed the Spherical Cow and I can use my older
> > fonts.  I used to copy&paste from one /usr/share/fonts folder to the
> > other but this time it isn't working.
> > My fonts are in Ubuntu, as root I copy & paste from there to my new
> > Fedora.  But I can't use them anyway.
> > Somebody know why it happens and how can I fix it?
> > 
> > 
> > /Thank you all very much!/
> > */Lailah/*
> 
> Try refreshing your font cache:
> 
> $ fc-cache -f
> 
> I'd also advise you to put the fonts in /usr/local/share/fonts or
> ~/.fonts instead of the global directory, since they won't be tracked by
> the package manager.
> 



I couldn't found a fonts folder in  /usr/local/share.  May I have to
create it?

I have 2 users in this system, and fonts are around 300MBs.  I don't see
why I have to occupy 600MBs in  /home  if they're already in a system
folder.



Thanks and regards,
Lailah
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Re: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf

2013-01-21 Thread Lailah
El sáb, 19-01-2013 a las 20:30 -0500, Tom Horsley escribió:

> So all sorts of apps I run from the command line
> spew this message:
> 
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading 
> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
> 
> If it is gonna spew to the terminal anyway, wouldn't
> it have been nice if the message said something about
> where it now wants to read the config from?
> 
> After much googling, the algorithm is apparently:
> 
> mkdir .config/fontconfig
> mv .fonts.conf .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
> 
> The spewage went away after I did that.



Thanks very much!  Very useful.


Cheers
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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Lailah
El sáb, 19-01-2013 a las 17:47 -0700, Paolo Galtieri escribió:

> On 01/19/13 14:57, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 19.01.2013 22:50, schrieb Paolo Galtieri:
> >> I think I'll stay on F14
> >
> > strange logic
> >
> > you stay on F14 because you do not like the F18 installer?
> > WTF - and you did not notice F15,F16,F17 all the time?
> >
> > F14 does even not work on Sandy Bridge machines from
> > 2011 because the network card is not supported and
> > the intel graphcis is also unuseable
> >
> > so the question remains why you stay on a from SECURITY
> > POINT OF VIEW unacceptable F14 instead install CentOS 6.3
> > which get security updates because what you are saying is
> > in short "fedora is not for me" so do not use it!
> >
> > it is also not a problem install F17 and upgrade it
> > done on 4 physical and 5 virtual setups this week
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> It's not just because of the installer.  Since the installer is so bad 
> what other features have they compromised on.  The F18 feature set 
> includes MATE Desktop, but there is no option to install this. My 
> experience has shown that a release really isn't stable for several 
> months after release.
> 
>I've been running F16 on one of my systems for several months and I 
> still believe the Gnome 2 UI on F14 is much better than what is 
> available in F16.  I don't like Gnome 3 and KDE on F16 is not much of an 
> improvement.
> 
> The feature I like on F14 which is impossible to find on F16 is the 
> "Locations" feature that is displayed when you click on the clock in 
> Gnome 2 on F14.  It allows me to predefine locations that I travel to 
> and then all I have to do is select one of those predefined locations 
> and the clock, timezone and other features are set for that location.
> 
> Paolo


Hello!

I can't understand what you say...  I have installed and working
Mate Desktop, installed from repositories in Fedora 18.  Why do you say
that it can't be installed?


Regards,
Lailah


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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:14:20 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr."
 wrote:

> On 01/21/2013 01:53 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:28:12 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr."
> >  wrote:
> >> I too was going to install F18...but I will wait until F19 or F20 before
> >> I move forwardI have way too much riding on this laptop working
> >> properly...and since it's an "old" GatewayI'd rather not have to
> >> deal with various problems.issues...and "broken" thingsso no
> >> "18" for me...as long as there's going to be a Gnome 3.x version for
> >> Fedora I'll always use it...just not when it becomes too buggy
> >>
> >>
> >> EGO II
> >> -- 
> > Many of us (like you) do use our linux (Fedora) machines for work (and
> > largely so). Some of us also happen to believe in the philosophy and
> > value of OSS. However, the software can only improve if we try them out
> > and provide feedback. Therefore, it is important for us to try these
> > out and report. Our feedback is valuable to the developers whose work
> > is of greater value and should be appreciated. Both together lead to
> > value in the OSS world.
> >
> > As an aside, I would have preferred a rolling release model with a
> > snapshot (these could be the releases every six months) once in a while.
> > This keeps packages more stable and also guards against the mad rush to
> > somehow get a release out (to Fedora's credit, they did do a 2.5-month
> > delay to get 18 right, but it appears that they should have waited much
> > more. Of course, the rolling release model is not something that Fedora
> > developers have decided to go for, and they do have the final say in
> > this matter (as they should: of course I hope they pause to reconsider).
> >
> > In my mind, the biggest issue with F18 is the installer which has been
> > commented on, and which puts things like disk partitioning under the
> > rug. Perhaps the goal is to mimic other popular (by ways of mob vote)
> > OS's, but some of us have never used anything other than a unix/linux
> > system and these users should not have to pay the price for not
> > expecting to use days of agony to upgrade a system, as I happily note my
> > friends in these other OS-worlds do.
> >
> > As another aside, about ten or so years ago, I was given to understand
> > that if a package moved to 1.0, it would be stable in perpetuity, in
> > the sense that old methods would continue to work with minor changes if
> > at all. I don't know if I misunderstood but this was a good model to go
> > by, in my opinion.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Ranjan
> >
> >
> I agree with youand although I am anxious as all "get out" to put 18 
> on my machine...I think I will dust off my old Dell Inspirion and put it 
> on there to "test" it out. I would hate to think the developers feel 
> they're unappreciated. I wish I could e-mail them directly and tell them 
> just how MUCH they're appreciatedI used to use Windows 
> becausefrankly that was all I knew...then I saw a friend using F14 
> and I couldn't BELIEVE the things he showed methings I would be able 
> to "do" in Fedora that I would NEVER be able to do in Windows...(don't 
> like the way we setup your Windows NT 4.0 desktop?...TOO BAD!) And then 
> he dropped the "bomb" on me letting me know he paid NOTHING for it! I 
> was FLOORED I immediately went home and following his directions 
> (because I didn't even know what an .iso WAS!) I installed it on this 
> same Gateway..totally blew away the Windows OS, and I've not looked back 
> since, I've installed other versions of Linux on my desktops...(I have 
> three...Linux Mint..CEntOS...and Scientific Linux) but Fedora has 
> been my "main" machine. I also wouldn't mind them switching to a rolling 
> release.I'm sure it would go a lot smoother regarding old hardware 
> and peripherals and such, but I'm an "F'er" for life! I don't think I 
> can ever go back to a Windows environment, not because of the price 
> factor...(I contribute to the Fedoraproject regularly!) but because if 
> it's limitations! I can only send out a hearty "Thank You" to everyone 
> who's involved with cranking out this most awesome OS. Cheers!!
> 

In my view, F12-14 (if i recall correctly) were the distribution's high
points. Everything worked off the box: liveUSB installs took 2-3
minutes after the final button was clicked.

I think F18 is not all that bad, once one can get the installation done
successfully. Seriously though, the installer has to be fixed, and I
don't see how this can be done in the updates: new DVD/CDs should be
rolled out because the installer is where many of the problems (but not
all) are. I got into the problems in this thread simply because I could
not use the installer to install on a system which had existing disks,
some of which I did not want reformatted.

I also installed F18 on a separate machine (with Broadcom wifi woes)
from scratch (new formatted HDD, etc) and there are no issues there
once t

Re: Boot Fedora 18 from LiveCD ISO file

2013-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/21/2013 03:13 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:


I'm trying to avoid burning LiveCD iso file and boot from it.


Why?
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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.01.2013 19:53, schrieb Ranjan Maitra:

In my mind, the biggest issue with F18 is the installer which has been
commented on, and which puts things like disk partitioning under the
rug. Perhaps the goal is to mimic other popular (by ways of mob vote)
OS's, but some of us have never used anything other than a unix/linux
system and these users should not have to pay the price for not
expecting to use days of agony to upgrade a system, as I happily note my
friends in these other OS-worlds do.

exactly THAT is the point

linux must not imitate window sor macosx
linux was and should continue to be IT'S OWN operating system

if someone like the windows way -> go and use it
if someone like the macosx way -> go and use it

but for people which switched long ago from windows to
linux because the wanted a DIFFERENT OS it is a spit in
the face that more and more windows paradigm is coming in



I agree with you there aw well Reindl, and as long as the "Windows-isms" 
remain few and far between then I'm satisfied. I would hate to think 
what would happen if Fedora decided to "mimic" Windows in ANY way! 
That's why I use the Gnome 3.x environment...it's so 
"anti-windows"...and I'm more comfortable with it than I am using 
anything that even remotely resembles windows!



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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:53 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:28:12 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr."
 wrote:

I too was going to install F18...but I will wait until F19 or F20 before
I move forwardI have way too much riding on this laptop working
properly...and since it's an "old" GatewayI'd rather not have to
deal with various problems.issues...and "broken" thingsso no
"18" for me...as long as there's going to be a Gnome 3.x version for
Fedora I'll always use it...just not when it becomes too buggy


EGO II
--

Many of us (like you) do use our linux (Fedora) machines for work (and
largely so). Some of us also happen to believe in the philosophy and
value of OSS. However, the software can only improve if we try them out
and provide feedback. Therefore, it is important for us to try these
out and report. Our feedback is valuable to the developers whose work
is of greater value and should be appreciated. Both together lead to
value in the OSS world.

As an aside, I would have preferred a rolling release model with a
snapshot (these could be the releases every six months) once in a while.
This keeps packages more stable and also guards against the mad rush to
somehow get a release out (to Fedora's credit, they did do a 2.5-month
delay to get 18 right, but it appears that they should have waited much
more. Of course, the rolling release model is not something that Fedora
developers have decided to go for, and they do have the final say in
this matter (as they should: of course I hope they pause to reconsider).

In my mind, the biggest issue with F18 is the installer which has been
commented on, and which puts things like disk partitioning under the
rug. Perhaps the goal is to mimic other popular (by ways of mob vote)
OS's, but some of us have never used anything other than a unix/linux
system and these users should not have to pay the price for not
expecting to use days of agony to upgrade a system, as I happily note my
friends in these other OS-worlds do.

As another aside, about ten or so years ago, I was given to understand
that if a package moved to 1.0, it would be stable in perpetuity, in
the sense that old methods would continue to work with minor changes if
at all. I don't know if I misunderstood but this was a good model to go
by, in my opinion.

Best wishes,
Ranjan


I agree with youand although I am anxious as all "get out" to put 18 
on my machine...I think I will dust off my old Dell Inspirion and put it 
on there to "test" it out. I would hate to think the developers feel 
they're unappreciated. I wish I could e-mail them directly and tell them 
just how MUCH they're appreciatedI used to use Windows 
becausefrankly that was all I knew...then I saw a friend using F14 
and I couldn't BELIEVE the things he showed methings I would be able 
to "do" in Fedora that I would NEVER be able to do in Windows...(don't 
like the way we setup your Windows NT 4.0 desktop?...TOO BAD!) And then 
he dropped the "bomb" on me letting me know he paid NOTHING for it! I 
was FLOORED I immediately went home and following his directions 
(because I didn't even know what an .iso WAS!) I installed it on this 
same Gateway..totally blew away the Windows OS, and I've not looked back 
since, I've installed other versions of Linux on my desktops...(I have 
three...Linux Mint..CEntOS...and Scientific Linux) but Fedora has 
been my "main" machine. I also wouldn't mind them switching to a rolling 
release.I'm sure it would go a lot smoother regarding old hardware 
and peripherals and such, but I'm an "F'er" for life! I don't think I 
can ever go back to a Windows environment, not because of the price 
factor...(I contribute to the Fedoraproject regularly!) but because if 
it's limitations! I can only send out a hearty "Thank You" to everyone 
who's involved with cranking out this most awesome OS. Cheers!!



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Re: Kernel panic during boot - what now?

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 20:01, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 19:59:30 +0100,
>   Markus Lindholm  wrote:
>>
>> What now, how can I repair the system?
> 
> Normally, you want to reboot with the previous kernel

you missed "I've got two kernel versions to choose from,
3.6.10-4 and 3.7.2.-201, same result with both." which
means it is not the kernel

there was a systemd upgrade at weekend and "immediately after
the password for disc encryption" amkes it most likely
here is the problem

some years ago you had the possibility to boot from
install DVD in rescue mode and "chroot /sysimage"
but these days all this extended options seems to
go away or perfectly hidden




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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra

>  semodule -r matahari
>  
>  Should remove matahari policy.
>  
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks, but I get the following (in F18):
> >>> 
> >>> sudo semodule -r matahari libsemanage.semanage_direct_remove: Module 
> >>> matahari was not found. semodule:  Failed!
> >>> 
> >> Ok so it is removed.
> >> 
> >> semodule -B
> >> 
> >> Does that work?
> >> 
> > 
> > I get the prompt back after a while. Now what?
> > 

> Looks like you are fine.  I would run fixfiles restore to make sure your
> labeling is ok.  And finally reboot.
> 
> # fixfiles restore
> # reboot
> 

Upon reboot, this does not seem to have made much of a difference:

$ lxpanel -p LXDE does not come on:


Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 timed out


$ batti 
ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.33:/org/freedesktop/UPower:
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:
Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither UPower
nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have multiple
reasons. Here is the error for UPower:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.33 was not
provided by any .service files

And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service files


Same issues as before with pcmanfm.

Ranjan


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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.01.2013 19:44, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:

I am currently running Fedora 17 on my laptop. I'm the only one who uses it, 
and can access it, but I worry
sometimes about someone trying to hack into it when I access the internet...is 
there some security measures I can
take that might prevent this? I don't have a clue as to how to configure 
iptables...or how to even configure the
firewallI HAVE a firewall on here...

than you should read manpages and at least take a look at
iptables --list --numeric --verbose


(it shows up in my Applications list!) but what do I do to ensure my PC's
safety?

use a portscanner like nmap to test for open ports and close them if not needed
it happens really fast that whatever app starts listening on a prt and for ports

1024 this does not need admin permissions

I've gone ahead and installed ClamAV...and that works fine...I run it every 
Friday...and to date...it's

NEVER found "threats"...but I'm just wondering what I could do to "harden" my 
security...(not to mention it will
come in handy as hands-on experience when I get my RHCSA certwhich I'm 
attempting to get!) any pointers or tips
would be greatly appreciated!

* nmap
* nessus

google for "intrusion detection"




Excellent! Thanks a million Reindl!


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Re: Kernel panic during boot - what now?

2013-01-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 19:59:30 +0100,
  Markus Lindholm  wrote:


What now, how can I repair the system?


Normally, you want to reboot with the previous kernel.
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Kernel panic during boot - what now?

2013-01-21 Thread Markus Lindholm
Hi

I've run into a nasty problem with kernel panic during boot. I did a
fresh installation of F18 last Wednesday and it was a smooth
experience, but then yesterday I did a 'yum update' that ended up
causing a kernel panic (there wasn't much more happening on the
machine at that time) and after that the boot process always
terminates in a kernel panic almost immediately after the password for
disc encryption has been given. It gives exit code 0x7F00. I've
got two kernel versions to choose from, 3.6.10-4 and 3.7.2.-201, same
result with both.

What now, how can I repair the system?

/Markus
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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 19:53, schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> In my mind, the biggest issue with F18 is the installer which has been
> commented on, and which puts things like disk partitioning under the
> rug. Perhaps the goal is to mimic other popular (by ways of mob vote)
> OS's, but some of us have never used anything other than a unix/linux
> system and these users should not have to pay the price for not
> expecting to use days of agony to upgrade a system, as I happily note my
> friends in these other OS-worlds do. 

exactly THAT is the point

linux must not imitate window sor macosx
linux was and should continue to be IT'S OWN operating system

if someone like the windows way -> go and use it
if someone like the macosx way -> go and use it

but for people which switched long ago from windows to
linux because the wanted a DIFFERENT OS it is a spit in
the face that more and more windows paradigm is coming in



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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:28:12 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr."
 wrote:
> I too was going to install F18...but I will wait until F19 or F20 before 
> I move forwardI have way too much riding on this laptop working 
> properly...and since it's an "old" GatewayI'd rather not have to 
> deal with various problems.issues...and "broken" thingsso no 
> "18" for me...as long as there's going to be a Gnome 3.x version for 
> Fedora I'll always use it...just not when it becomes too buggy
> 
> 
> EGO II
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Many of us (like you) do use our linux (Fedora) machines for work (and
largely so). Some of us also happen to believe in the philosophy and
value of OSS. However, the software can only improve if we try them out
and provide feedback. Therefore, it is important for us to try these
out and report. Our feedback is valuable to the developers whose work
is of greater value and should be appreciated. Both together lead to
value in the OSS world.

As an aside, I would have preferred a rolling release model with a
snapshot (these could be the releases every six months) once in a while.
This keeps packages more stable and also guards against the mad rush to
somehow get a release out (to Fedora's credit, they did do a 2.5-month
delay to get 18 right, but it appears that they should have waited much
more. Of course, the rolling release model is not something that Fedora
developers have decided to go for, and they do have the final say in
this matter (as they should: of course I hope they pause to reconsider).

In my mind, the biggest issue with F18 is the installer which has been
commented on, and which puts things like disk partitioning under the
rug. Perhaps the goal is to mimic other popular (by ways of mob vote)
OS's, but some of us have never used anything other than a unix/linux
system and these users should not have to pay the price for not
expecting to use days of agony to upgrade a system, as I happily note my
friends in these other OS-worlds do. 

As another aside, about ten or so years ago, I was given to understand
that if a package moved to 1.0, it would be stable in perpetuity, in
the sense that old methods would continue to work with minor changes if
at all. I don't know if I misunderstood but this was a good model to go
by, in my opinion.

Best wishes,
Ranjan


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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 19:44, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
> I am currently running Fedora 17 on my laptop. I'm the only one who uses it, 
> and can access it, but I worry
> sometimes about someone trying to hack into it when I access the 
> internet...is there some security measures I can
> take that might prevent this? I don't have a clue as to how to configure 
> iptables...or how to even configure the
> firewallI HAVE a firewall on here...

than you should read manpages and at least take a look at
iptables --list --numeric --verbose

> (it shows up in my Applications list!) but what do I do to ensure my PC's
> safety?

use a portscanner like nmap to test for open ports and close them if not needed
it happens really fast that whatever app starts listening on a prt and for ports
> 1024 this does not need admin permissions

I've gone ahead and installed ClamAV...and that works fine...I run it every 
Friday...and to date...it's
> NEVER found "threats"...but I'm just wondering what I could do to "harden" my 
> security...(not to mention it will
> come in handy as hands-on experience when I get my RHCSA certwhich I'm 
> attempting to get!) any pointers or tips
> would be greatly appreciated!

* nmap
* nessus

google for "intrusion detection"



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Re: F17 -> F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Cross
On 20 January 2013 21:39, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>
>
> Am 20.01.2013 22:37, schrieb Sam Varshavchik:
>> Dave Cross writes:
>>
>>> $ rpm -qa | grep fc18
>>> nss-tools-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64
>>> java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.4.fc18.x86_64
>>> nss-sysinit-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64
>>> nss-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64
>>> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.20.17-1.fc18.x86_64
>>> grubby-8.22-1.fc18.x86_64
>>>
>>> So it looks like the aborted FedUp upgrade managed to install six RPMs
>>> before bombing out.
>>
>> If that's all, I'm wondering why is your 'yum update' looking to F18's repo? 
>> fedora-release isn't one of these six.
>
> because even if you start "yum calean all; yum --releasever=18 whatever"
> your yum setup points to the F18 repos unless "rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*"
>
> it has cached the f18-urls and metadata and has no reasons to drop
> them until manually intervention

Aha. Yes, they're all in the _local repository. A quick 'sudo rm
/var/lib/yum/plugins/local/*fc18*' has, at least, returned the system
to Fedora 17.

Thanks,

Dave...

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Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:26 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 21 January 2013 15:32, Tim  wrote:

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht:

I assume that there is a human-factors study that indicates that
non-technical users don't like to be reminded of how complicated things
really are under the hood.  At least that is why I thought such cover-up
screens exist.

I assumed that it's just stupidly copying Windows, in a monkey-see,
monkey-do fashion.  As seems to be the current trend of programmers
wanting a free version of Windows, rather than an alternative OS.


And I assumed it's a user-expectations thing. People expect a OS to
look 'professional', if it starts up with rows of text it can look
unfriendly and re-enforce the 'geeks-only' image. Though really I'm
guessing and it may not be the reason.

Would this be considered a "preference"?.since the OS actually 
works...does it matter if there's a splash screen or text scrolling up 
through the screen upon bootup?I've never really paid attention to 
the splash screens that muchI much prefer to keep it all "quiet" and 
just have a black screen, some people prefer to "see" what's going on 
while the machine is booting upothers want a pretty animation.I 
guess that's all moot hmmm?



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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.01.2013 19:13, schrieb Tim:

...complete snippage of what indicates why he gets moderated...

oh and your "Put your tin hat on, your fingers in your ears, and
start chanting la la la la la, now" was fine?


Yes, I may be lucky in that my software can use another identifier to
connect to the same access point as last time.  But that's just luck.
My software may not manage it, simply because of the way it was
programmed.  Or the same access point mightn't be around, or active at
the moment my computer is trying to connect.

which OTHER identifier?

you ENTER the SSID to connect
and that is exactly what anaconda is missing


SSID is mean as an identifier, a name, for the access point(s), and
that's all it's for.  It's not a secret.  It's not part of security.
Telling people which network is which (via SSID, or other methods) is
not part of security.  This is a cold hard fact, and no false beliefs to
the contrary can change that.

blablablabla






Since we're already "off topic" so much so that we're discussing other 
things entirelycan I ask a question, and bear in mind I'm asking 
only for edification and NO other reason!:
I am currently running Fedora 17 on my laptop. I'm the only one who uses 
it, and can access it, but I worry sometimes about someone trying to 
hack into it when I access the internet...is there some security 
measures I can take that might prevent this? I don't have a clue as to 
how to configure iptables...or how to even configure the firewallI 
HAVE a firewall on here...(it shows up in my Applications list!) but 
what do I do to ensure my PC's safety?I've gone ahead and installed 
ClamAV...and that works fine...I run it every Friday...and to 
date...it's NEVER found "threats"...but I'm just wondering what I could 
do to "harden" my security...(not to mention it will come in handy as 
hands-on experience when I get my RHCSA certwhich I'm attempting to 
get!) any pointers or tips would be greatly appreciated!



EGO II


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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/21/2013 12:30 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:16:12 -0600 Daniel J Walsh  
> wrote:
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> On 01/21/2013 12:14 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:04:10 -0600 Daniel J Walsh  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra 
>  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup
>> but rather I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound
>> around yum upgrade (from the documentation). Everything went
>> through reasonably smoothly except for the following messages:
>> 
>> Font messages such as:
>> 
>> Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028
>>  Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf",
>> line 29: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may
>> not work as expected Fontconfig warning: 
>> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 41: Having
>> multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
>> expected Fontconfig warning:
>> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 53: Having
>> multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
>> expected Fontconfig warning: 
>> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having 
>> multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as 
>> expected
>> 
>> and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:
>> 
>> Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch
>> 1454/3028 libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global
>> requirements were not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or
>> directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages
>> failed (No such file or directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed!
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>

>>
>>
>> 
Other than that, everything went through fine.
>> 
>> Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the
>> F17 one.
>> 
>> I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me
>> to the desktop (LXDE).
>> 
>> Other errors:
>> 
>> 1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following 
>> errors when I start it up:
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote
>> volume monitor with dbus name
>> org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not supported
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6: 
>> Expected a valid selector
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7: 
>> Expected a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a 
>> thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail 
>> property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property 
>> error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error:
>> The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
>> metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata
>> does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not
>> have a thumbnail property error: Invalid MS property section
>> calling convert 
>> '/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'
>>
>>

>>
>>
>> 
+matte -thumbnail 128x128
>> png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'
>>
>>

>>
>>
>> 
error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>> error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip
>> trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>> 
>> 
>> 2. batti gives me no response and the following error:
>> 
>> 
>> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
>> :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a
>> reply (timeout by message bus) Neither UPower nor DeviceKit.Power
>> could be initialized! This can have multiple reasons. Here is the
>> error for UPower:
>> 
>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not
>>  provided by any .service files
>> 
>> And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:
>> 
>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
>> org.freedesk

Re: scan a document into a pdf

2013-01-21 Thread JOYCE POLZIN


- Original Message -
On 21.01.2013 19:05, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: 
> Is there an application other than gscan2pdf (which doesn't work) 

have a look at xsane, works for me. 
-Jens 


So how do you get the Portable Document Format (PDF) files readable in windoze? 
Other linux machines don;t have an issue reading them but the minute I send one 
to a windows user or file share both FoxIt and Adobe report that the file 
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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 19:13, schrieb Tim:
> ...complete snippage of what indicates why he gets moderated...

oh and your "Put your tin hat on, your fingers in your ears, and
start chanting la la la la la, now" was fine?

> Yes, I may be lucky in that my software can use another identifier to
> connect to the same access point as last time.  But that's just luck.
> My software may not manage it, simply because of the way it was
> programmed.  Or the same access point mightn't be around, or active at
> the moment my computer is trying to connect.

which OTHER identifier?

you ENTER the SSID to connect
and that is exactly what anaconda is missing

> SSID is mean as an identifier, a name, for the access point(s), and
> that's all it's for.  It's not a secret.  It's not part of security.
> Telling people which network is which (via SSID, or other methods) is
> not part of security.  This is a cold hard fact, and no false beliefs to
> the contrary can change that.

blablablabla






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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:16:12 -0600 Daniel J Walsh 
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 01/21/2013 12:14 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:04:10 -0600 Daniel J Walsh  
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> >> 
> >> On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra 
> >>>  wrote:
>  Dear friends,
>  
>  I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but
>  rather I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around
>  yum upgrade (from the documentation). Everything went through
>  reasonably smoothly except for the following messages:
>  
>  Font messages such as:
>  
>  Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028 
>  Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line
>  29: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work
>  as expected Fontconfig warning:
>  "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 41: Having multiple
>  values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
>  Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line
>  53: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work
>  as expected Fontconfig warning:
>  "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having 
>  multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
>  expected
>  
>  and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:
>  
>  Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch 1454/3028 
>  libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global requirements
>  were not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or directory). 
>  libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file
>  or directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed! 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>
>  
> Other than that, everything went through fine.
>  
>  Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the F17
>  one.
>  
>  I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me to
>  the desktop (LXDE).
>  
>  Other errors:
>  
>  1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following
>  errors when I start it up:
>  
>  (pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume
>  monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not
>  supported
>  
>  (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6:
>  Expected a valid selector
>  
>  (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7:
>  Expected a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a
>  thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
>  property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
>  error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
>  metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does
>  not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a
>  thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
>  property error: Invalid MS property section calling convert 
>  '/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'
> 
> 
> >>
>  
> +matte -thumbnail 128x128
>  png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'
> 
> 
> >>
>  
> error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>  error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>  error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>  
>  
>  2. batti gives me no response and the following error:
>  
>  
>  ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower:
>   dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
>  Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither
>  UPower nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have
>  multiple reasons. Here is the error for UPower:
>  
>  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not 
>  provided by any .service files
>  
>  And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:
>  
>  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
>  org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service
>  files
>  
>  
>  3. sudo yum *whatever* always has the following:
>  
>  Unabl

Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.

On 01/21/2013 01:04 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra
 wrote:

Dear friends,

I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but rather
I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around yum upgrade
(from the documentation). Everything went through reasonably smoothly
except for the following messages:

Font messages such as:

Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 29:
Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
expected Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf",
line 41: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not
work as expected Fontconfig warning:
"/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 53: Having multiple
values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected Fontconfig
warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having
multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected

and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:

Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch 1454/3028
libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global requirements were
not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or directory).
libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or
directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed!






Other than that, everything went through fine.

Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the F17 one.

I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me to the
desktop (LXDE).

Other errors:

1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following errors
when I start it up:

(pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor
with dbus name org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not supported

(pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6: Expected
a valid selector

(pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7: Expected
a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not
have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error:
The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does
not have a thumbnail property error: Invalid MS property section calling
convert
'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'



+matte -thumbnail 128x128

png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'



error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer

error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error:
No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer


2. batti gives me no response and the following error:


ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower:
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:
Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither UPower
nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have multiple reasons.
Here is the error for UPower:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not
provided by any .service files

And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service files


3. sudo yum *whatever* always has the following:

Unable to send message to PackageKit

I am however able to install and update (and erase packages), most
functions, but does take forever to get started now.

Any suggestions, fixes?

Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan

 From what i can see F18 seems an utter disaster... i put F17 back on.

james


semodule -r matahari

Should remove matahari policy.



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I too was going to install F18...but I will wait until F19 or F20 before 
I move forwardI have way too much riding on this laptop working 
properly...and since it's an "old" GatewayI'd rather not have to 
deal with various problems.issues...and "broken" thingsso no 
"18" for me

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 21 January 2013 15:32, Tim  wrote:
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht:
>>> I assume that there is a human-factors study that indicates that
>>> non-technical users don't like to be reminded of how complicated things
>>> really are under the hood.  At least that is why I thought such cover-up
>>> screens exist.
>
> I assumed that it's just stupidly copying Windows, in a monkey-see,
> monkey-do fashion.  As seems to be the current trend of programmers
> wanting a free version of Windows, rather than an alternative OS.
>

And I assumed it's a user-expectations thing. People expect a OS to
look 'professional', if it starts up with rows of text it can look
unfriendly and re-enforce the 'geeks-only' image. Though really I'm
guessing and it may not be the reason.

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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Hash: SHA1

On 01/21/2013 12:14 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:04:10 -0600 Daniel J Walsh  
> wrote:
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra 
>>>  wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but
 rather I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around
 yum upgrade (from the documentation). Everything went through
 reasonably smoothly except for the following messages:
 
 Font messages such as:
 
 Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028 
 Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line
 29: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work
 as expected Fontconfig warning:
 "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 41: Having multiple
 values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
 Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line
 53: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work
 as expected Fontconfig warning:
 "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having 
 multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
 expected
 
 and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:
 
 Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch 1454/3028 
 libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global requirements
 were not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or directory). 
 libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file
 or directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed! 
 




>>
 
Other than that, everything went through fine.
 
 Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the F17
 one.
 
 I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me to
 the desktop (LXDE).
 
 Other errors:
 
 1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following
 errors when I start it up:
 
 (pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume
 monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not
 supported
 
 (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6:
 Expected a valid selector
 
 (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7:
 Expected a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a
 thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
 property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
 error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
 metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does
 not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a
 thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
 property error: Invalid MS property section calling convert 
 '/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'


>>
 
+matte -thumbnail 128x128
 png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'


>>
 
error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
 error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
 error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
 
 
 2. batti gives me no response and the following error:
 
 
 ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower:
  dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
 Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither
 UPower nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have
 multiple reasons. Here is the error for UPower:
 
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not 
 provided by any .service files
 
 And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:
 
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
 org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service
 files
 
 
 3. sudo yum *whatever* always has the following:
 
 Unable to send message to PackageKit
 
 I am however able to install and update (and erase packages), most 
 functions, but does take forever to get started now.
 
 Any suggestions, fixes?
 
 Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
>>> 
>>> From what i can see F18 seems

Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:04:10 -0600 Daniel J Walsh 
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra 
> >  wrote:
> >> Dear friends,
> >> 
> >> I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but rather
> >> I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around yum upgrade
> >> (from the documentation). Everything went through reasonably smoothly
> >> except for the following messages:
> >> 
> >> Font messages such as:
> >> 
> >> Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028
> >> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 29:
> >> Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
> >> expected Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf",
> >> line 41: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not
> >> work as expected Fontconfig warning: 
> >> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 53: Having multiple 
> >> values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected Fontconfig
> >> warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having
> >> multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
> >> 
> >> and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:
> >> 
> >> Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch 1454/3028
> >> libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global requirements were
> >> not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or directory).
> >> libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or
> >> directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed! 
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> Other than that, everything went through fine.
> >> 
> >> Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the F17 one.
> >> 
> >> I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me to the 
> >> desktop (LXDE).
> >> 
> >> Other errors:
> >> 
> >> 1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following errors 
> >> when I start it up:
> >> 
> >> (pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor
> >> with dbus name org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not supported
> >> 
> >> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6: Expected
> >> a valid selector
> >> 
> >> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7: Expected
> >> a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
> >> error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
> >> metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not
> >> have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
> >> property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error:
> >> The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does
> >> not have a thumbnail property error: Invalid MS property section calling
> >> convert 
> >> '/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'
> >>
> >> 
> +matte -thumbnail 128x128
> >> png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'
> >>
> >> 
> error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
> >> error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error:
> >> No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 2. batti gives me no response and the following error:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower: 
> >> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
> >> Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither UPower 
> >> nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have multiple reasons.
> >> Here is the error for UPower:
> >> 
> >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not 
> >> provided by any .service files
> >> 
> >> And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:
> >> 
> >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
> >> org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service files
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 3. sudo yum *whatever* always has the following:
> >> 
> >> Unable to send message to PackageKit
> >> 
> >> I am however able to install and update (and erase packages), most 
> >> functions, but does take forever to get started now.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions, fixes?
> >> 
> >> Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
> > 
> > From what i can see F18 seems an utter disaster... i put F17 back on.
> > 
> > james
> > 
> 
> semodule -r matahari
> 
> Should remove matahari policy.
> 

Thanks, but I g

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 17:15 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

...complete snippage of what indicates why he gets moderated...

The original topic /was/ what it was, and still is, the offshoot thread
is what /that/ is, separately.  That's how mailing lists work.  People
discuss the bits that they discuss, in the parts of the thread that they
want to.  In general, replies are *to* *the* *list*, about whatever was
written in the message, far more than specifically to a singular person,
get used to that.

You argued a point, and I replied to it specifically.  It just happened
to be you.  Previously, a message or two up the thread, it was someone
else.  Next you argue that the thread was about something else, and I
don't disagree with that.  But you had changed from the original topic,
too.  Pot, kettle, black.

The following is not specifically for you, but it's clear that you need
to understand it, as well other people reading this list need to
understand it.

  ---

Whether it's a bug, or not, that the  (as appropriate to many
different networking related discussions) cannot handle SSID was not
what *I* was talking about.  It's certainly a problem, though, and
people keep arguing against the easy solution, for all the wrong
reasons.  That was the main thing I touched upon.

Security by obscurity is a false belief,
it's better stated as insecurity by placebo,
or delusion by stupidity.

Hiding an SSID can "never" prevent a connection, it's just as useless as
sticking a piece of paper on a terminal with "do not hack" written on it
- completely ineffectual.  Hiding it doesn't even prevent discovery of
the access point.  It doesn't require hacking skills.  It's not even
reliable against accidents.  And networking accidents are going to be
the main experience of users with hidden SSIDs, more than hacking is.

Anyone who follows this bad advice will believe they've secured their
system, when they haven't.  And, quite rightly, will say that they've
been lied to, the moment they realise that they suffered because of it.
Placebos are not harmless, they actually do cause harm when the person
being fooled doesn't get what they actually need.

Security by layers is increasing security by stacking actual security
measures on top of each other.  A well-enforced password (choice of
password, and requiring its use in appropriate places) is a security
measure.  Strong encryption is a security measure.  Requiring both is an
example of increased, layered, security.  Tacking on another procedure
that isn't actually a security measure doesn't increase security, at
all.  And can even be more than just a waste of time.

Hiding an SSID does cause network problems.  It was a technical
requirement, and networking software was written depending on its
presence.  Even when /some/ software can work without it, because other
methods may be used to identify it, there's still a human level that
requires it.

For example, I can turn on my computer, and find that I'm surrounded by
three "unnamed access points," and I do not know which one to use.
There's nothing that tells me which one is which.  I am left with trying
each one, in turn, to see which works.  And I may well connect to the
wrong one, and keep on using it, because it seems to work.  Next time
I'm presented with the same situation, I have to go through the same
process again, because there's no clues in the list.  Nor can I rely on
the access points being listed in the same order, so I can't just choose
what I thought I chose, last time.  And I can't even tell if it's the
same access points as last time, or whether any of them are different
ones.  That information is simply not shown to me in the menu of
choices.

Yes, I may be lucky in that my software can use another identifier to
connect to the same access point as last time.  But that's just luck.
My software may not manage it, simply because of the way it was
programmed.  Or the same access point mightn't be around, or active at
the moment my computer is trying to connect.

SSID is mean as an identifier, a name, for the access point(s), and
that's all it's for.  It's not a secret.  It's not part of security.
Telling people which network is which (via SSID, or other methods) is
not part of security.  This is a cold hard fact, and no false beliefs to
the contrary can change that.

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Re: fedora-upgrade from F17->F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/21/2013 01:19 AM, James Freer wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra 
>  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but rather
>> I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around yum upgrade
>> (from the documentation). Everything went through reasonably smoothly
>> except for the following messages:
>> 
>> Font messages such as:
>> 
>> Updating   : gnu-free-mono-fonts-20120503-3.fc18.noarch 1322/3028
>> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 29:
>> Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as
>> expected Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf",
>> line 41: Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not
>> work as expected Fontconfig warning: 
>> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-khmeros-base.conf", line 53: Having multiple 
>> values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected Fontconfig
>> warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-0-nhn-nanum-gothic.conf", line 8: Having
>> multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
>> 
>> and the only selinux-policy-targeted message:
>> 
>> Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.11.1-67.fc18.noarch 1454/3028
>> libsepol.print_missing_requirements: matahari's global requirements were
>> not met: bool init_systemd (No such file or directory).
>> libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or
>> directory). /usr/sbin/semodule:  Failed! 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
Other than that, everything went through fine.
>> 
>> Upon reboot, I did not see the F18 grub splash screen, but the F17 one.
>> 
>> I did not get the SLiM display manager but text. startx gets me to the 
>> desktop (LXDE).
>> 
>> Other errors:
>> 
>> 1. pcmanfm does not automount disks, indeed, I get the following errors 
>> when I start it up:
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor
>> with dbus name org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor is not supported
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :1:6: Expected
>> a valid selector
>> 
>> (pcmanfm:605): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: :7:7: Expected
>> a valid selector error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
>> error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The
>> metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not
>> have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail
>> property error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error:
>> The metadata does not have a thumbnail property error: The metadata does
>> not have a thumbnail property error: Invalid MS property section calling
>> convert 
>> '/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png.DWF3QW'
>>
>> 
+matte -thumbnail 128x128
>> png:'/home/maitra/.thumbnails/normal/79594e24b205982ddb040918b50b267d.png'
>>
>> 
error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>> error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer error:
>> No Zip trailer error: No Zip trailer
>> 
>> 
>> 2. batti gives me no response and the following error:
>> 
>> 
>> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.80:/org/freedesktop/UPower: 
>> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
>> Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Neither UPower 
>> nor DeviceKit.Power could be initialized! This can have multiple reasons.
>> Here is the error for UPower:
>> 
>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.80 was not 
>> provided by any .service files
>> 
>> And this is the error for DeviceKit.Power:
>> 
>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
>> org.freedesktop.DeviceKit.Power was not provided by any .service files
>> 
>> 
>> 3. sudo yum *whatever* always has the following:
>> 
>> Unable to send message to PackageKit
>> 
>> I am however able to install and update (and erase packages), most 
>> functions, but does take forever to get started now.
>> 
>> Any suggestions, fixes?
>> 
>> Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
> 
> From what i can see F18 seems an utter disaster... i put F17 back on.
> 
> james
> 

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Battery life improved with F18

2013-01-21 Thread William Murray

   Thanks guys,
  I don't know what you did, but after upgrading my laptop 
FC17->FC18 I

saw a 5 hr battery life being quoted - I never saw that long before.

It may be something to do with optimus? My nvidia video card is not 
working inF18 as there
is no bumblebee rpm yet, but maybe someone worked out how to switch it 
off by default?

(suits me). Anyway, I'm happy!
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Re: F18: USB flash drives do not mount

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi Zoltan,

Thanks very much for the response.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:00:44 +0100 Zoltan Hoppar 
wrote:

> Hi Ranjan,
> 
> Please give me a bit more detailed feedback -
> - what kind of UI you are using with F18?

LXDE+openbox, but this did "work" with F17.

> - uname -a - current kernel

Linux kharkai 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 16:22:52 UTC 2013
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


> - did you know that Fedora has an /run folder that has been added?

I don't quite know what this means, sorry. I know that since F17, these
devices have been loaded onto /run.

> - lsusb ?

Bus 001 Device 017: ID 058f:6387 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2110 Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth Controller
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 413c:2105 Dell Computer Corp. Model L100 Keyboard
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:c00c Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

> 
> If you are using LXDE witch is basicaly openbox with some graphics
> tools, you have to know that such lightweight systems at default has
> no automount - only if it's something hasn't been added. So, can you
> give more clearer info?

Sorry I am using LXDE. How do I get this working. However, I may note
that the F17 LXDE spin had this included by default. The change from
F17 to F18 is not important for me, but how do I get this going again.

Many thanks again!
Ranjan

> Thanks,
> 
> Zoltan
> 
> 2013/1/21 Ranjan Maitra :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a bit at a loss as to how to get USB flash drives to mount on F18.
> > It has been such a long tome since this has not worked from
> > off-the-shelf in Fedora or anything that I have perhaps forgotten what
> > to do (maybe I never knew):
> >
> > Here is the output from tail -f /var/log/messages (as the USB is put
> > in):
> >
> > Jan 21 10:44:54 kharkai kernel: [47423.454160] usb 1-3: new high-speed
> > USB device number 16 using ehci_hcd
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716770] usb 1-3: New USB device
> > found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=6387
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716782] usb 1-3: New USB device
> > strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716790] usb 1-3: Product: Mass
> > Storage
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716797] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
> > Generic
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716804] usb 1-3:
> > SerialNumber: C08A740E
> > Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.719521]
> > scsi13 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel:
> > [47424.722207] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic  Flash Disk
> > 8.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.724178] sd
> > 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.725511] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> > 1970176 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 GB/962 MiB)
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726126] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Write
> > Protect is off Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726627] sd
> > 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726637] sd 13:0:0:0:
> > [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729701] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
> > Caching mode page present
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729713] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> > Assuming drive cache: write through
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.771662]  sdb: sdb1
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774132] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
> > Caching mode page present
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774139] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> > Assuming drive cache: write through
> > Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774145] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> > Attached SCSI removable disk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nothing happens as far as pcmanfm goes, and I can't see where this
> > goes. I guess I could go in for a hardwired manual mount, but I wanted
> > to first see if there was some more general fix first.
> >
> >
> > df does yield the following entry:
> >
> > tmpfs  tmpfs 990M  4.2M  985M   1% /run
> >
> > but I can't seem to get to it.
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions, please?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Ranjan
> >
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Re: scan a document into a pdf

2013-01-21 Thread Jens Neu

On 21.01.2013 19:05, JOYCE POLZIN wrote:

Is there an application other than gscan2pdf (which doesn't work)


have a look at xsane, works for me.
-Jens

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2013-01-21 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
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Re: F18: USB flash drives do not mount

2013-01-21 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi Ranjan,

Please give me a bit more detailed feedback -
- what kind of UI you are using with F18?
- uname -a - current kernel
- did you know that Fedora has an /run folder that has been added?
- lsusb ?

If you are using LXDE witch is basicaly openbox with some graphics
tools, you have to know that such lightweight systems at default has
no automount - only if it's something hasn't been added. So, can you
give more clearer info?

Thanks,

Zoltan

2013/1/21 Ranjan Maitra :
> Hi,
>
> I am a bit at a loss as to how to get USB flash drives to mount on F18.
> It has been such a long tome since this has not worked from
> off-the-shelf in Fedora or anything that I have perhaps forgotten what
> to do (maybe I never knew):
>
> Here is the output from tail -f /var/log/messages (as the USB is put
> in):
>
> Jan 21 10:44:54 kharkai kernel: [47423.454160] usb 1-3: new high-speed
> USB device number 16 using ehci_hcd
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716770] usb 1-3: New USB device
> found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=6387
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716782] usb 1-3: New USB device
> strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716790] usb 1-3: Product: Mass
> Storage
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716797] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
> Generic
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716804] usb 1-3:
> SerialNumber: C08A740E
> Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.719521]
> scsi13 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel:
> [47424.722207] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic  Flash Disk
> 8.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.724178] sd
> 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.725511] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> 1970176 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 GB/962 MiB)
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726126] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Write
> Protect is off Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726627] sd
> 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726637] sd 13:0:0:0:
> [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729701] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
> Caching mode page present
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729713] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> Assuming drive cache: write through
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.771662]  sdb: sdb1
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774132] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
> Caching mode page present
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774139] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> Assuming drive cache: write through
> Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774145] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
> Attached SCSI removable disk
>
>
>
>
> Nothing happens as far as pcmanfm goes, and I can't see where this
> goes. I guess I could go in for a hardwired manual mount, but I wanted
> to first see if there was some more general fix first.
>
>
> df does yield the following entry:
>
> tmpfs  tmpfs 990M  4.2M  985M   1% /run
>
> but I can't seem to get to it.
>
>
> Any suggestions, please?
>
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan
>
>
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Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-21 Thread David Highley
"G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:"
> 
> On 01/20/2013 10:34 PM, David Highley wrote:
> > If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in
> > detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little
> > information about how to do anything other than run firewall-cmd to add
> > or delete specific rules.
> > 
> > This really needs documentation so we can understand how it works and
> > maybe compare situations with iptables that we are to migrate from so
> > that we all do not have to figure this out from scratch. I'm not really
> > complaining, just think we need more information so we can move forward
> > and hopefully not make mistakes. Thanks for the help.
> > 
> I just looked at this a few minutes ago.  The docs (such as they are)
> are in the fedoraproject Wiki.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD/
> 

Yes, I read that information. 

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F18: USB flash drives do not mount

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi,

I am a bit at a loss as to how to get USB flash drives to mount on F18.
It has been such a long tome since this has not worked from
off-the-shelf in Fedora or anything that I have perhaps forgotten what
to do (maybe I never knew):

Here is the output from tail -f /var/log/messages (as the USB is put
in):

Jan 21 10:44:54 kharkai kernel: [47423.454160] usb 1-3: new high-speed
USB device number 16 using ehci_hcd 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716770] usb 1-3: New USB device
found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=6387 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716782] usb 1-3: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716790] usb 1-3: Product: Mass
Storage 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716797] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
Generic 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.716804] usb 1-3:
SerialNumber: C08A740E 
Jan 21 10:44:55 kharkai kernel: [47423.719521]
scsi13 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel:
[47424.722207] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic  Flash Disk
8.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.724178] sd
13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.725511] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
1970176 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 GB/962 MiB) 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726126] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Write
Protect is off Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726627] sd
13:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.726637] sd 13:0:0:0:
[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729701] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.729713] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.771662]  sdb: sdb1 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774132] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774139] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through 
Jan 21 10:44:56 kharkai kernel: [47424.774145] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk




Nothing happens as far as pcmanfm goes, and I can't see where this
goes. I guess I could go in for a hardwired manual mount, but I wanted
to first see if there was some more general fix first.


df does yield the following entry:

tmpfs  tmpfs 990M  4.2M  985M   1% /run

but I can't seem to get to it. 


Any suggestions, please?

Best wishes,
Ranjan


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Re: which repos for fedora 18

2013-01-21 Thread Bill Davidsen

FMcCormick wrote:


I noticed today that on Fedora 18 the Fedora-updates-testing repo is
not enabled. Should it be ??

Probably not by default. THere are two reasons not to use this repo unless it 
has something you really need, or really intend to test:


1 - packages here are really for testing, they don't have the QA that things in 
the updates repo are expected to have. They may be new and wonderful, but have 
been known to have major problems, including those which could cause cause loss 
of data in some cases.


2 - these packages may _never_ make it into the supported updates repo. Which 
may give you a chance to learn about reverting upgrades, cause you to create 
data files in non-standard formats (done that), learn to love interface features 
which don't get adopted in the mainline (that, too), or just leave you out of 
sync with the rest of the Fedora world.


3 - when doing an update to the next release, these packages may not be 
upgraded, or may be upgraded to a version which is not a proper superset of the 
functionality of the testing version. Upgrade tools like 'preupdate' may not do 
the right thing from your point of view, and in some cases there may not be a 
right thing to do.


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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 17:05, schrieb Tim:
> Let me repeat that, it is completely impossible to stop anyone from
> being able to connect to an access point by hiding the SSID. Therefore
> it is categorically not a security measure, in any way shape or form.
> Anyone who argues otherwise is a fool.  Put your tin hat on, your
> fingers in your ears, and start chanting "la la la la la," now. 

put your own tin hat on and leave me fuck in peace
99 out of 100 users are having NO HACKER SKILLS

> Because you're only deluding yourselves, and leading others into a 
> false sense of security.

b***t - what exactly did you not understand in the word ADDITIONAL

and by the way: this is NOT the topic

the topic is that in the fedora world FIRST some nonready crap
is assigend as feature BEFORE it is in a working state - this
does NEVER work in the real world

a drop-in-replacement has AT LEAST to have the same capabilities
as whatever it replaces and before not pe proposed as replacement
AFTER that debugging anf finetuning have to happen

any other working process is idiotic






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F18: yum complains "Unable to send message to PackageKit"

2013-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
So, I keep getting this message:

Unable to send message to PackageKit

when I go into yum. 

Looking through the archives, it was suggested that one should have 

PackageKit-yum and PackageKit-yum-plugin if not, we should install.

I did have it, but I went an did a 

sudo yum reinstall PackageKit-yum PackageKit-yum-plugin


Did not make a difference. 

Any other suggestions? Is this a SELinux issue?

Many thanks,
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Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-21 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> And there's no such thing as security by obscurity

Reindl Harald:
> obscurity does not replace security
> obscurity is there to EXTEND security

In this case (not broadcasting SSID), has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with
security, and it NEVER can.

Hiding it cannot prevent anyone connecting to the access point, there is
NO WAY that it can do it.  Anyone who wants to can connect to the access
point, whether it's broadcast or not.  Including really clueless people
with zero hacking skills.

Let me repeat that, it is completely impossible to stop anyone from
being able to connect to an access point by hiding the SSID.  Therefore
it is categorically not a security measure, in any way shape or form.
Anyone who argues otherwise is a fool.  Put your tin hat on, your
fingers in your ears, and start chanting "la la la la la," now.  Because
you're only deluding yourselves, and leading others into a false sense
of security.

It's one of those dumb things people do because they blindly follow dumb
information promulgated by people who have no idea about what they tout.

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Re: Setting video monitor resolution on F18 X Windows Gnome

2013-01-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 15:31 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
> I am trying to work out how to set the height and width to use the
> 1280 by 800 full resolution of my laptop monitor. At the moment Gnome
> is giving me 1024 by 768.

Some time ago, I posted this message, regarding Fedora 17:



Subject:  GDM has wrong monitor resolution, with a bit of a howto

"For some reason, my installation picks the wrong monitor resolution, by
default.  In my case, less resolution than it could manage, and results
in a weird aspect ratio.  So I have to manually configure each user to
use the correct one, which is a bit annoying.  That leaves gdm with the
wrong resolution, and not quite so easily resolved.

"However, copying a working ~/.config/monitors.xml file over to the gdm
homespace in /var/lib/gdm/.config/monitors.xml fixes that up.

"Also copying it into /etc/skel/.config/monitors.xml ought to preset any
new users with a working screen resolution, but I haven't tested that,
yet."



Since then, I have tested what I mentioned in the last paragraph, and
that does work.

Have a look at that monitors.xml file, and you can see X and Y
configuration parameters.  Try changing them to what you want.

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Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-21 Thread Tim
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht:
>> I assume that there is a human-factors study that indicates that
>> non-technical users don't like to be reminded of how complicated things
>> really are under the hood.  At least that is why I thought such cover-up
>> screens exist.

I assumed that it's just stupidly copying Windows, in a monkey-see,
monkey-do fashion.  As seems to be the current trend of programmers
wanting a free version of Windows, rather than an alternative OS.


Roberto Ragusa:
> Could we split the screen and have system messages in one part and
> happy dancing puppies in the other part?
> So users can concentrate their attention according to their preference.

Needs "blinken lights."  (That's not an application, but and old school
notice.)

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Re: [May be OT] Linux box as Load-balancer

2013-01-21 Thread Patrick Lists

On 01/21/2013 03:24 PM, Jatin K wrote:


Dear all,

I need your helpI want to configure a Linux box with 3 NIC, (
Centos/RHEL ) as a load balancer/fail-over mechanism  for 2 windows web
application server , if any app server goes down user must not be
affected by the failure. And if both app servers are up they should be
load-balanced.

what configurations are required on Linux box...???


Maybe use something like http://haproxy.1wt.eu/

Regards,
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[May be OT] Linux box as Load-balancer

2013-01-21 Thread Jatin K


Dear all,

I need your helpI want to configure a Linux box with 3 NIC, ( 
Centos/RHEL ) as a load balancer/fail-over mechanism  for 2 windows web 
application server , if any app server goes down user must not be 
affected by the failure. And if both app servers are up they should be 
load-balanced.


what configurations are required on Linux box...???


  something like following

  
  ++

  ||
+-+ APP BOX-1  +
__  | ||
___/  \_ +--+---+ ++
  _/\__  | if1  |
 / \ |  |
| Local network -+Linux Machine |
 \_   __/|  |
   \__ __/   | if2  |
  \___/  +--+---+ ++
| ||
+-+ APP BOX-2  +
  ||
  ++



Warm Regards

Thanks in advance ...

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Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:21:22 +, Dave Cross wrote:

> > Reinstalling gstreamer1-plugins-base and gstreamer1-plugins-good (both
> > packages from Fedora) is very unlikely to fix decoding of MPEG and MP3.
> 
> I was dubious too. But it worked. I think it was something to do with
> forcing the plugins to be registered.

That registry is local to your user's account. :)
You can simply delete it instead of reinstalling packages:

  rm $HOME/.cache/gstreamer-1.0/registry*

The next time a GStreamer1 based program is run, the registry will be
recreated. Alternatively, there are the command-line tools that trigger
a rebuild of the registry too, e.g. gst-inspect-1.0, gst-launch-1.0, or:

  $ cd ~/Videos
  $ gst-typefind-1.0 DSCN0762.MOV 
  DSCN0762.MOV - video/quicktime

For GStreamer 0.x, the registry is in $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10/

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Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Cross
On 21 January 2013 11:04, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:48:25 +, Dave Cross wrote:
>
>> Installing the missing gstreamer1 packages didn't solve the problem.
>> But from some googling I found the advice to reinstall
>> gstreamer1-plugins-base and gstreamer1-plugins-good. And that seems to
>> have done the trick.
>
> Dubious. I wish people would stop suggesting that reinstalling packages
> fixes something. Seldomly it does. For example, when the installed files
> have been damaged or deleted, which is something RPM can check. Then
> reinstalling the packages restores the files. Or when the packages contain
> install-time scripts, which process something (that is not the case here,
> however). More often than not, reinstalling packages does not change
> anything at all.
>
> Reinstalling gstreamer1-plugins-base and gstreamer1-plugins-good (both
> packages from Fedora) is very unlikely to fix decoding of MPEG and MP3.

I was dubious too. But it worked. I think it was something to do with
forcing the plugins to be registered.

Dave..

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Boot Fedora 18 from LiveCD ISO file

2013-01-21 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi Fedora community,

I'm trying to avoid burning LiveCD iso file and boot from it.

I've added an entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom :

#!/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type
the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
menuentry "Fedora 18 LiveCD (Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvm/vg_sebelk-root'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
 search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
--hint='lvm/vg_sebelk-root'  eacc51f3-68a3-4839-88b0-7c1fc3531739
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
eacc51f3-68a3-4839-88b0-7c1fc3531739
fi
loopback loop "/boot/fedora-isos/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso"
set root=(loop)
linux (loop)/isolinux/vmlinuz0
root=live:LABEL=Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is ro rd.live.image rd.shell
rd.debug
initrd (loop)/isolinux/initrd0.img

}

EOF

But it fails, it says something like

 /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist
/dev/mapper/live-rw does not exist


 I haven't figured it out how to wirte the root option. Please could you
help me?


Thanks in advance!

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Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:48:25 +, Dave Cross wrote:

> Installing the missing gstreamer1 packages didn't solve the problem.
> But from some googling I found the advice to reinstall
> gstreamer1-plugins-base and gstreamer1-plugins-good. And that seems to
> have done the trick.

Dubious. I wish people would stop suggesting that reinstalling packages
fixes something. Seldomly it does. For example, when the installed files
have been damaged or deleted, which is something RPM can check. Then
reinstalling the packages restores the files. Or when the packages contain
install-time scripts, which process something (that is not the case here,
however). More often than not, reinstalling packages does not change
anything at all.

Reinstalling gstreamer1-plugins-base and gstreamer1-plugins-good (both
packages from Fedora) is very unlikely to fix decoding of MPEG and MP3.

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Re: f18: GUI for video converter

2013-01-21 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno dom, 20/01/2013 alle 12.55 -0800, Peter Gordon ha scritto:
> On 01/20/2013 12:58 PM, Dario Lesca wrote:
>  "yum install transmageddon" 

Thanks Peter.
Yes, this is what I am looking for.

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Re: f18: how to disable suspend when lid is closed without user logged in

2013-01-21 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno dom, 20/01/2013 alle 22.16 -0600, Rex Dieter ha scritto:
> I believe you can try to edit
> /etc/systemd/logind.conf
> and set
> HandleLidSwitch=ignore

Ok, this is what I'm looking for.

Question: There is a GUI to do this kind of setting (like f14 do)?

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Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-21 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 01/18/2013 11:57 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> 
> I assume that there is a human-factors study that indicates that
> non-technical users don't like to be reminded of how complicated things
> really are under the hood.  At least that is why I thought such cover-up
> screens exist.

Could we split the screen and have system messages in one part and
happy dancing puppies in the other part?
So users can concentrate their attention according to their preference.

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Re: lvm or btrfs? which is preferable (when, if applicable)

2013-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.01.2013 07:43, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 20.01.2013 02:00, schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
>>> Thanks again for your quick response.
>>>
>>> OK, so you are suggesting I move to lvm, or leave things as is, to ext4?
>>> The new installer does not give me an option to format ext4 (but I can
>>> keep it as is, I guess).
>>>
>>> How does one convert from ext4 to lvm? Is there any benefit to moving
>>> to lvm?
>>
>> you should really read some basic documentations
>>
>> ext4 is a filesystem
>> btrfs is a filesystem
>> lvm is NOT a filesystem
>>
>> you have ext4, btrfs, whatever FS ON TOP of LVM
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_volume_management
>>
>> for most private environments there is no real benefit of LVM
>> spread LVM over more than one disk with no RAID under it
>> is simply dumb becasue if ONE of the disks goes down
>> you have a problem
>>
> Your point about loss of data is well taken, but having data on any storage 
> without RAID for error recovery is a
> risk, having data on just one machine is a risk. The admin has to balance 
> cost and benefit, for both hardware and
> administrative learning curve considered as "cost."

but there is a difference if i have only one disk
which can go bad and all is away or i have as example
4 disks an dif ONE OF THEM goes bad all is away



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Re: Time/Date shell-thingy in F18

2013-01-21 Thread Jon Ingason

2013-01-21 09:00, William Murray skrev:

Dear list,
 (What do we call the shell thingies which replaced applets?)

I wanted to have the date at the top of my shiny new FC18 screen, not
just the time.


Install gnome-tweak-tool (sudo yum install gnome-tweak-tool)


I installed dconf-editor, went to org->gome->shell and found 'calendar'
and 'clock'
each of which have booleans, one for 'show-weekdate' and the other for
'show-date'
As far as I can tell these do nothing at all. I toggle and log in/out or
reboot but no
date appears.
   This morning, with the new kernel, my system when into gnome 2
fallback mode.
Ah-hah! I siezed the opportunity of a 'preferences' menu on the clock,
switched
on the date, and rebooted - perfect; gnome 3, plus date.
 So I am happybut there MUST be a better way to switch this on
and of?
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Time/Date shell-thingy in F18

2013-01-21 Thread William Murray

   Dear list,
(What do we call the shell thingies which replaced applets?)

I wanted to have the date at the top of my shiny new FC18 screen, not 
just the time.
I installed dconf-editor, went to org->gome->shell and found 'calendar' 
and 'clock'
each of which have booleans, one for 'show-weekdate' and the other for 
'show-date'
As far as I can tell these do nothing at all. I toggle and log in/out or 
reboot but no

date appears.
  This morning, with the new kernel, my system when into gnome 2 
fallback mode.
Ah-hah! I siezed the opportunity of a 'preferences' menu on the clock, 
switched

on the date, and rebooted - perfect; gnome 3, plus date.
So I am happybut there MUST be a better way to switch this on 
and of?

 Bill




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