F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-14 Thread dave peters
Could anyone advise me if there are any serious problems with this hardware
and F18 ?
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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 19:25 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
> Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal with
> the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what I want to
> avoid: having to map distributions to packaging system).
>  
> I was hoping that there was some magic command a la lsb_release which
> could have helped for this). Well I guess I'll have to rely on some
> heuristic like those for now.

I would have thought that looking for the various /etc/release types of
file that you know about would have been the simplest solutions.
Surely, you'd know what to expect for all the releases that you're
supporting?

In the last few days, I had read a page discussing a more universal
single /etc/release file, that would use the one filename for all
distros, and have parameters inside it that were specific to the
particular release.

I don't remember where I read that, but it was most likely a reference
found on this list.

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Re: Is gnome-disks really incapable of dealing with a blank drive?

2013-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:52:37 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> At the top right of the program (to the right of your hard drive name)
> there is a button with two gears. Click on "Format Disk..." to partition.

By golly that works (since I hadn't put anything on the disk yet,
I wiped it so I could try again). It is unfortunate that it uses
the same gear icon as the one below the picture in the middle of the
screen yet does complete different operations :-).
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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 14.03.2013 19:25, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
>
> Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal with
> the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what I want to
> avoid: having to map distributions to packaging system).

Maybe you have your reasons that I don't understand but package
management is distribution related. Generally Linux distributions are
built around package managers. There are rpm based ones like Fedora, RH,
SuSE and deb based like Debian, Ubuntu. There is opkg in OpenWRT and
something that I can't remember right now in Arch. So package management
is tightly related to Linux distro. Detecting Linux distribution is
easier than searching for rpm or dpkg commands and checking if they are
dominant package managers on the system.


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-14 Thread David G . Miller
Bill Davidsen  tmr.com> writes:

> 
> I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 development
> testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping 
> there's by now a better tools to help create an rpm from scratch, something 
> more intuitive than the man page in one window and vi in the other.
> 
> Is there?
> 
Maximum RPM is still the definitive work on how to build RPMs:

http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/

Be aware that rpm tends to evolve over time and rpmbuild is not necessarily
"backwards compatible."  You need to use the version of rpmbuild that matches
the oldest distribution you want to install on.  My last gig had a lot of people
on RHEL 5.X so I had to build on an RHEL 5.X platform.  The resulting rpm still
worked on RHEL 6 and Fedora.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Repeated Firefox Crashes

2013-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/14/2013 03:03 PM, Temlakos wrote:

For what it's worth, Thunderbird crashes often on my own machine, if for
any reason I have to shut it down, or log off, after two or more hours
of use. Sometimes the only remedy is to shut down the machine itself and
let it cool off for an hour or so. I have the Mozilla Bug Reporter
installed, so I assume I'm making regular reports of this problem every
time it happens. And they've never solved it.


If you really have to let it cool off for an hour or so, it might be a 
fan issue.  Have you checked?

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Re: Fedora 18: Mouse regressions

2013-03-14 Thread Junk
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 22:01 +, Junk wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 10:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 03/14/2013 12:40 AM, Dan Irwin wrote:
> > > Also, "Paint and paste" (To borrow a term from an earlier thread here)
> > > is broken. In a terminal, I like to highlight text, and click to
> > > paste. This does not work, and I don't like it.
> > 
> > How are you trying to paste?  ^V, Shift-^V or right-click-Paste?
> 
> I think he's using The Best Paste Method In The World, the middle click.
> It works from me when I select text in Firefox and Evolution but not in
> Gedit. I've never noticed this before, it's a bit weird.
> 
> Junk.
> 

I revise that, it always works if I select in one program and paste into
another, It seems to depend on the program when I select and paste into
the same one, Gedit and Naultilus don't, Evolution does.

Junk

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Re: Repeated Firefox Crashes

2013-03-14 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 14.03.2013 22:59, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:18 +1030, William Brown wrote:
>> On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 22:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: 
>>> Firefox, long quite stable, has crashed 3 times today, generally while
>>> doing nothing in particular, i.e. running in background.  Has anyone
>>> else noticed this?  Could there be some connection with the new version
>>> of flash, which was released just yesterday?  From /var/log/yum.log:
>>>...
>>> Mar 12 23:17:14 Updated:
>>> flash-plugin-11.2.202.275-release.x86_64
>> Disable the flash plugin (in safemode if you have to) and see if this
>> continues.
> Just did that, and Firefox crashed after about 10 minutes of use.
> So it's not flash.
>
> Further problems (all with flash disabled) at:
> 3/13 at 23:19 crash
> 3/13 at 23:48 crash
> 3/14 at 00:19 froze (didn't respond to keyboard or mouse)
>   3/14 at 00:40 crash
>
> And not bad memory, since I haven't had any trouble with other programs,
> also ran memtest86+ for a couple of passes without finding anything bad.
>
> jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
Please, try to start Firefox with new profile. Remove (first do backup
if needed) all profile files from your home directory: rm -rf
.mozilla/firefox/ . Then try to run Firefox from terminal - it should
report serious errors there.


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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Re: Repeated Firefox Crashes

2013-03-14 Thread Temlakos

On 03/14/2013 05:59 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:18 +1030, William Brown wrote:

On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 22:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Firefox, long quite stable, has crashed 3 times today, generally while
doing nothing in particular, i.e. running in background.  Has anyone
else noticed this?  Could there be some connection with the new version
of flash, which was released just yesterday?  From /var/log/yum.log:
...
 Mar 12 23:17:14 Updated:
 flash-plugin-11.2.202.275-release.x86_64

Disable the flash plugin (in safemode if you have to) and see if this
continues.

Just did that, and Firefox crashed after about 10 minutes of use.
So it's not flash.

Further problems (all with flash disabled) at:
 3/13 at 23:19 crash
 3/13 at 23:48 crash
 3/14 at 00:19 froze (didn't respond to keyboard or mouse)
3/14 at 00:40 crash

And not bad memory, since I haven't had any trouble with other programs,
also ran memtest86+ for a couple of passes without finding anything bad.

jon








For what it's worth, Thunderbird crashes often on my own machine, if for 
any reason I have to shut it down, or log off, after two or more hours 
of use. Sometimes the only remedy is to shut down the machine itself and 
let it cool off for an hour or so. I have the Mozilla Bug Reporter 
installed, so I assume I'm making regular reports of this problem every 
time it happens. And they've never solved it.


I used to have a problem with Firefox crashing in the middle of an 
interactive session. And sometimes I have to kill it when it starts 
taking up half my CPU resources to run some script or other. But I 
haven't seen anything like what Jon is describing--not with Firefox, anyway.


Temlakos
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Re: Fedora 18: Mouse regressions

2013-03-14 Thread Junk
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 10:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/14/2013 12:40 AM, Dan Irwin wrote:
> > Also, "Paint and paste" (To borrow a term from an earlier thread here)
> > is broken. In a terminal, I like to highlight text, and click to
> > paste. This does not work, and I don't like it.
> 
> How are you trying to paste?  ^V, Shift-^V or right-click-Paste?

I think he's using The Best Paste Method In The World, the middle click.
It works from me when I select text in Firefox and Evolution but not in
Gedit. I've never noticed this before, it's a bit weird.

Junk.

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Re: Repeated Firefox Crashes

2013-03-14 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:18 +1030, William Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 22:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: 
> > Firefox, long quite stable, has crashed 3 times today, generally while
> > doing nothing in particular, i.e. running in background.  Has anyone
> > else noticed this?  Could there be some connection with the new version
> > of flash, which was released just yesterday?  From /var/log/yum.log:
> >...
> > Mar 12 23:17:14 Updated:
> > flash-plugin-11.2.202.275-release.x86_64
> 
> Disable the flash plugin (in safemode if you have to) and see if this
> continues.

Just did that, and Firefox crashed after about 10 minutes of use.
So it's not flash.

Further problems (all with flash disabled) at:
3/13 at 23:19 crash
3/13 at 23:48 crash
3/14 at 00:19 froze (didn't respond to keyboard or mouse)
3/14 at 00:40 crash

And not bad memory, since I haven't had any trouble with other programs,
also ran memtest86+ for a couple of passes without finding anything bad.

jon






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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> 
> Did I type that..
> 
> It is /var/log/auth.log

Marvin,

Yes, but if it was just a typo and denyhosts is working now then you're all set.

Regards,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Matthew J. Roth  wrote:
> Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>
>> Looks like the answer is user configuration error..
>>
>> Thanks for all the great help...
>
> Marvin,
>
> Assuming that my post solved your problem, you should still be asking yourself
> why logging is being done to '/etc/log/auth.log'?  It would typically be
> '/var/log/auth.log'.
>
> Note that this is probably a question best addressed by the Ubuntu users list.
>
> Regards,
>
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Hi

Did I type that..

It is /var/log/auth.log

Once you make an error...  Go back and check.. And probably don't see it..
That is always the way it works for me..

Need to be checked ALL the time.



Thanks..


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Re: replace grub (not grub2)

2013-03-14 Thread Mike Wright

03/14/2013 01:07 PM, Greg Woods wrote:

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 12:08 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:


When I installed f18 xen it replaced grub with grub2 on the f14 system.
   Needless to say, my f14 xen system is no longer bootable.


Why "needless to say"? When I did this, my Fedora 14 install was
presented as a boot option in grub2, and it booted just fine. Maybe you
need to run grub2-mkconfig in the F18 system?

# cd /boot/grub2
# grub2-mkconfig -o grub.cfg


Greg, thanks for your help.

That does provide a grub2 that includes the f14 system.  Unfortunately, 
it strips the xen parts of it.


Your advice did let me boot into the f14 system (now part of the f18 
boot) and from there I was able to, at boot time, edit the boot stanza 
to include xen as the kernel and the kernel and initramfs as modules. 
From there the f14 xen system came back to life.


Still work to do but you got me on my way!

Thx

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Re: Preventing a removable disk of being mounted by udisk (Fedora18)

2013-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:29:10 +0100
Jean François Martinez wrote:

> Any ideas?

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/case-of-disks.html

You need to work your way down to the bottom of that web
page - the the way to fix this has changed a zillion
times :-).
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~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald
~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

where is the reference to
activityId=2949f37e-aa83-4740-982a-55d6cf2113a4

i did "chattr +i ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc"
to set the immutable flag to the config because it always get
mangeled randomly and my desktop starts without widgets

but there must be another file which references the ID
and needs to be fixed again with the used one and also
get the immutable flag to leave my desktop in peace :-)



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Preventing a removable disk of being mounted by udisk (Fedora18)

2013-03-14 Thread Jean François Martinez
Hello

I have a removable disk I use with BackupPc.  Problem is under Fedora 18
it is managed by udisk and udisk mounts it automatically
under /run/media/${USER} with permissions who don't allow
any other user than me to reach under the mount point. 
Unfortunately thus behavior is hard-wired in the code (a bug IMHO)
so I want to remove this disk from udisk management.  Unfortunately
I see nowhere something looking like a configuration file.

Any ideas?

Jean François Martinez



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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 14/03/13 15:42, Olav Vitters wrote:

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:13:01PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:

 process = subprocess.Popen(['gnome-desktop-item-edit',
file_path], env=os.environ)

Install whatever provides gnome-desktop-item-edit and please file a bug
for the missing requires.



Installed:
  gnome-panel.x86_64 0:3.6.2-2.fc18

Yes that makes it work, still the GTK Warnings but it looks like it is 
usable.


Thank you,

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Re: replace grub (not grub2)

2013-03-14 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 12:08 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:

> When I installed f18 xen it replaced grub with grub2 on the f14 system. 
>   Needless to say, my f14 xen system is no longer bootable.

Why "needless to say"? When I did this, my Fedora 14 install was
presented as a boot option in grub2, and it booted just fine. Maybe you
need to run grub2-mkconfig in the F18 system?

# cd /boot/grub2
# grub2-mkconfig -o grub.cfg

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Re: nut

2013-03-14 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

The glitch has been fixed by just rebooting the machine!

Thank.


Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

Complementary information:
upsdrvctl start
responds as:
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.6.5
Network UPS Tools - Generic HID driver 0.37 (2.6.5)
USB communication driver 0.31
Duplicate driver instance detected! Terminating other driver!
Using subdriver: MGE HID 1.31

The "Duplicate driver instance" is a pretty strong hint that  
something else has grabbed the device. Before starting nut you might  
see if udev saw the UPS and started something for you (perhaps not  
what you wanted).


lsusb - should identify the USB connection
lsof - may be able to tell you what's using it, if something really is.

And there you have the total of my ideas, hope it helped.

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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theodore Papadopoulo  wrote:

> Is there a place where this can be escalated and discussed ?
>

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions

Rahul
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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 14/03/13 15:41, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 14.03.2013 20:38, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni:

a black background with unreadable letters in a HTML message

DO NOT USE HTML MAIL

Did I do that? Sorry if I did. I usually take care to avoid that, may 
have clicked on the wrong Thunderbird Mail box when I sent? I read 
everything with white on black, works best with my old optics.


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Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 20:43, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 
> development testing days. Now I would find it
> convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping there's by now a better tools to 
> help create an rpm from scratch,
> something more intuitive than the man page in one window and vi in the other.
> 
> Is there?

* rpmbuild
* the sources
* a SPEC file

https://www.google.at/search?q=fdora+rpmbuild
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package

* read the prepare steps
* taje a existig src.rpm
* unpack it
* try to understand it
* rpmbuild -bb specfile.spec
* wise: rpmbuild -bs specfile.spec to have your won ".src.rpm"
  whiche can be installed with "rpm -ivh" on any hosts and any
  users rpmbuild-tree to reuse it and contains any sources, patches
  and the SPEC

DO NOT BUILD RPMS AS ROOT

i am dealing with this since years each day for override
fedora packages or build unpacked things because my personal
rule is "anything for which i can not build my own RPM
is strictly not allowed on any of my machines"



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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 03/14/2013 03:18 PM, Mike Wright wrote:

03/14/2013 11:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 14.03.2013 19:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:

On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:

How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
from windows client.

I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.


vnc passes your login information in the clear


ssh-forwarding is not rocket science


Oh, Reindl, you are so funny.  If only I had your knowledge.

ssh-forwarding may not be rocket science to you but to others, well...

Love your help, now show us how.



Say you have SSHD running on port 599 and you are just using user login, 
not an SSH cert you uploaded.  And the server to connect to is at 
130.129.0.97 (this is the IETF's address range; I had a server with me I 
had to connect to).  In a terminal window run:


ssh -p 599 -L 8902:130.129.0.97:5902 user@130.129.0.97


You will be prompted to login as user.

Then run vnc to localhost:8902

You are there.

This is how I have been doing it for years at IETF meetings when I have 
had to connect home for one reason or another.


Tatu Yonen (sp?) kind of rubbed my face in this one.  Kind of hard NOT 
to listen to the advice of the guy who created SSH...



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Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 development 
testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping 
there's by now a better tools to help create an rpm from scratch, something more 
intuitive than the man page in one window and vi in the other.


Is there?

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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.03.2013 20:38, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni:
> a black background with unreadable letters in a HTML message

DO NOT USE HTML MAIL



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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:13:01PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:
> process = subprocess.Popen(['gnome-desktop-item-edit',
> file_path], env=os.environ)

Install whatever provides gnome-desktop-item-edit and please file a bug
for the missing requires.

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Re: nut

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

Complementary information:
upsdrvctl start
responds as:
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.6.5
Network UPS Tools - Generic HID driver 0.37 (2.6.5)
USB communication driver 0.31
Duplicate driver instance detected! Terminating other driver!
Using subdriver: MGE HID 1.31

The "Duplicate driver instance" is a pretty strong hint that something else has 
grabbed the device. Before starting nut you might see if udev saw the UPS and 
started something for you (perhaps not what you wanted).


lsusb - should identify the USB connection
lsof - may be able to tell you what's using it, if something really is.

And there you have the total of my ideas, hope it helped.

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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

  
  
On 14/03/13 14:47, Joe Zeff wrote:

On
  03/14/2013 11:13 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
  
  

Is there a problem with "alacarte" or is it something I am doing
wrong?

I have three Fedora-18/64 XFCE computers all producing the same
errors:

  
  
  Check bugzilla; there have been a number of similar bugs going
  back at least to F 16, if not earlier.
  


Yes, I see in my notes that I've head trouble with this in the past
but those "fixes" don't!

I guess it's not critical, mainly an annoyance. I've lived with
those menus for a long time.

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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 03/14/2013 02:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 14.03.2013 19:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:

On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:

How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
from windows client.

I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.

vnc passes your login information in the clear

ssh-forwarding is not rocket science


I know.  I was doing all this week.  You DON'T want to run such stuff 
unprotected on the IETF wifi.  Your id/password will appear on the wall 
of shame.



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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 20:18, schrieb Mike Wright:
> 03/14/2013 11:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 14.03.2013 19:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
>>> On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:
> How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
> from windows client.
 I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

 Works great from my android phone.
>>>
>>> vnc passes your login information in the clear
>>
>> ssh-forwarding is not rocket science
> 
> Oh, Reindl, you are so funny.  If only I had your knowledge.
> 
> ssh-forwarding may not be rocket science to you but to others, well...
> 
> Love your help, now show us how

normally the kyword should be enough
https://www.google.at/search?q=ssh+fowarding

however, this below is a snippet of a script with
VNC connections to a ton of machines on different
ports
__

#!/bin/bash
VNC_PARAMS='-FullColour=1 -QualityLevel=7 -CompressLevel=9 -ZlibLevel=9 
-Shared=1'
DEFAULT_GATEWAY='gate...@myhost.domain.tld'
LOCAL_PORT_START=5600
LOCAL_PORT=`expr $LOCAL_PORT_START + 1`

LOCAL_PORT=`expr $LOCAL_PORT + 1`
ssh -C -f -L $LOCAL_PORT:localhost:59oo $DEFAULT_GATEWAY sleep 3
vncviewer $VNC_PARAMS -passwd=/home/harry/.vnc/machine-type-1.pwd 
localhost:$LOCAL_PORT



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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:

How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
from windows client.


I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.

I have services running in virtual machines, and start them with the console set 
to a VNC on the host. That lets me VPN to the host and access all guest machines 
without password with VNC to a port, while letting users connect to vncserver 
running on the guest, using passwords, on the default port and virtual machine IP.


Reduces administration effort for the whole, while forcing users to use password 
for security.


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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/14/2013 02:18 PM, Mike Wright wrote:

> 
> Love your help, now show us how.
> 
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/tunneling-vnc-connections-over-ssh-howto.html

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Re: replace grub (not grub2)

2013-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:08:03 -0700
Mike Wright wrote:

> What is the "modern" way to return the MBR to the old fashioned grub 
> boot loader?

I don't know about "modern", but when I get a screwed up
boot I tend to chroot into the screwed up system and
run grub-install from there.
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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Mike Wright

03/14/2013 11:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 14.03.2013 19:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:

On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:

How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
from windows client.

I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.


vnc passes your login information in the clear


ssh-forwarding is not rocket science


Oh, Reindl, you are so funny.  If only I had your knowledge.

ssh-forwarding may not be rocket science to you but to others, well...

Love your help, now show us how.

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replace grub (not grub2)

2013-03-14 Thread Mike Wright

Hi all,

I have two different boot drives, one occupied by f18 and one by f14.

f18 uses grub2.
f14 used grub.

When I installed f18 xen it replaced grub with grub2 on the f14 system. 
 Needless to say, my f14 xen system is no longer bootable.


I want to reinstall grub and its MBR but grub-install is no longer 
available in f18: replaced by grub2.


Searches on this return ancient results, most of which refer to DOS and 
Windows.


What is the "modern" way to return the MBR to the old fashioned grub 
boot loader?


Thanks for any help,
Mike Wright

(making me laugh here: i remember lilo and thought it would be the death 
of me)

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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
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On 03/14/2013 07:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 14.03.2013 19:25, schrieb Theodore Papadopoulo:
>> Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal
>> with the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what
>> I want to avoid: having to map distributions to packaging
>> system).
>> 
>> I was hoping that there was some magic command a la lsb_release
>> which could have helped for this). Well I guess I'll have to rely
>> on some heuristic like those for now.
>> 
>> Would there be a possibility (for the long term) to add such a 
>> facility. I understand that this is quite difficult as it
>> requires some synchronisation between distributions
> 
> i fear this is unlikely, there are way too much distributions

I understand that...
On the other way fedora often opens the route... ;-)

Is there a place where this can be escalated and discussed ?

Theo.


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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 19:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
> On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:
>> On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:
>>> How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
>>> from windows client.
>> I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server
>>
>> Works great from my android phone.
> 
> vnc passes your login information in the clear

ssh-forwarding is not rocket science



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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 19:25, schrieb Theodore Papadopoulo:
> Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal with
> the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what I want to
> avoid: having to map distributions to packaging system).
> 
> I was hoping that there was some magic command a la lsb_release which
> could have helped for this). Well I guess I'll have to rely on some
> heuristic like those for now.
> 
> Would there be a possibility (for the long term) to add such a
> facility. I understand that this is quite difficult as it requires
> some synchronisation between distributions

i fear this is unlikely, there are way too much distributions



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Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/14/2013 11:13 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


Is there a problem with "alacarte" or is it something I am doing wrong?
I have three Fedora-18/64 XFCE computers all producing the same errors:


Check bugzilla; there have been a number of similar bugs going back at 
least to F 16, if not earlier.

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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 03/14/2013 12:29 PM, Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:

How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
from windows client.

I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.


vnc passes your login information in the clear.  Now perhaps you don't 
care if your telco sees this, but what other links along the way?


This is why Les keeps saying to use NX instead.  Now I tunnel through 
SSH whenever I need to remotely connect via vnc.



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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
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On 03/14/2013 06:39 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> On 03/14/2013 04:43 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:09:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> presence of /var/lib/rpm /etc/os-release /etc/redhat-release
>> 
>> And perhaps a run-time check, such as an RPM based query, which
>> would only work if the RPM database is filled with details about
>> installed files.
>> 
>> $ rpm -qa|wc -l 1601 $ rpm -qf /sbin/init 
>> systemd-198-3.fc19.x86_64 $ rpm -qf $(which bash) 
>> bash-4.2.45-1.fc19.x86_64
>> 
> 
> There's no standard way I know of that's guaranteed to work (I
> think LSB has some bits that could help but since you can't depend
> on them being installed or even available everywhere it's pretty
> much useless).
> 
> You could take a look at how sos does this:
> 
> https://github.com/sosreport/sosreport
> 
> Sos is a support data collection tool written in python. The
> upstream version now runs on Fedora, RHEL, RHEV, RHS, Debian,
> Ubuntu, Mac OSX, and Windows. It abstracts package management in a
> policy class - each target defines a policy which probes the
> environment to determine whether it should be the active policy. So
> for e.g. if /etc/fedora-release or /etc/redhat-release exists the
> redhat policy is activated.
> 
> This is fairly robust and lets you define hierarchies (e.g. the
> Ubuntu policy extends Debian policy, and both Debian and Red Hat
> policies inherit from a common LinuxPolicy) so that policies can
> share common bits of implementation.
> 
> The downside is that you have to create and maintain the policies
> and either add support for each new flavour or provide generic fall
> backs that do a reasonable job on unknown hosts.
> 
> Regards, Bryn.
> 

Interesting, I'll have a look. But the downside you mention is exactly
the one I want to avoid. Having to handle a mapping between
distributions and packaging systems. See the other message I just
posted...

Anyway thnk for this pointer.

Theo.
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> 
> Looks like the answer is user configuration error..
> 
> Thanks for all the great help...

Marvin,

Assuming that my post solved your problem, you should still be asking yourself
why logging is being done to '/etc/log/auth.log'?  It would typically be
'/var/log/auth.log'.

Note that this is probably a question best addressed by the Ubuntu users list.

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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
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On 03/14/2013 05:43 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:09:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>>> I'm trying to find a standard way of finding the native
>>> packaging system of a linux distribution. I'm not sure at all
>>> that testing the presence of {rpm/yum}|{apt-get} is reliable as
>>> for example I can install apt-get of my fedora computer.
>>> 
>>> So the question is, is there a simple test that can reliably
>>> determine whether a linux machine is rpm or debian based for
>>> its native package scheme?
>> 
>> presence of /var/lib/rpm /etc/os-release /etc/redhat-release
> 
> And perhaps a run-time check, such as an RPM based query, which
> would only work if the RPM database is filled with details about
> installed files.
> 
> $ rpm -qa|wc -l 1601 $ rpm -qf /sbin/init 
> systemd-198-3.fc19.x86_64 $ rpm -qf $(which bash) 
> bash-4.2.45-1.fc19.x86_64
> 

Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal with
the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what I want to
avoid: having to map distributions to packaging system).

I was hoping that there was some magic command a la lsb_release which
could have helped for this). Well I guess I'll have to rely on some
heuristic like those for now.

Would there be a possibility (for the long term) to add such a
facility. I understand that this is quite difficult as it requires
some synchronisation between distributions.

For the record, I'm just trying to have my cmake based build system to
decide which packaging scheme it should use on a given linux machine...

Thank's for the answers.

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Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-14 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


Is there a problem with "alacarte" or is it something I am doing wrong? 
I have three Fedora-18/64 XFCE computers all producing the same errors:


[bobg@box10 ~]$ alacarte

(alacarte:14894): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:72:18: 
Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.


(alacarte:14894): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:72:20: 
Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.


Then when I pick an item and ask it to show the "Properties.":

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/Alacarte/MainWindow.py", line 
448, in on_properties_button_clicked

self.on_edit_properties_activate(None)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/Alacarte/MainWindow.py", line 
326, in on_edit_properties_activate
process = subprocess.Popen(['gnome-desktop-item-edit', file_path], 
env=os.environ)

  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 679, in __init__
errread, errwrite)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1249, in _execute_child
raise child_exception
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory

I would like to identify the names in the menus with nomenclature I can 
understand, application names. Is there a way to do it with a text 
editor, a file I can modify?


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Re: expect dosen't

2013-03-14 Thread JOYCE POLZIN


- Original Message -
you might want to google expect debugging, its verbose output will help you a 
lot... 



On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:44 AM, JOYCE POLZIN < foxec...@wowway.com > wrote: 




What's wrong with the following: 


#! /usr/bin/expect -f 


spawn /usr/bin/kinit u...@domain.com 
expect "?COM:" 
send "password\r" 


The password never seems to get sent, but diags from -d switch indicate that 
the expect string did match. 
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Re: expect dosen't

2013-03-14 Thread Jack Craig
you might want to google expect debugging, its verbose output will help you
a lot...


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:44 AM, JOYCE POLZIN  wrote:

> What's wrong with the following:
>
> #! /usr/bin/expect -f
>
> spawn  /usr/bin/kinit u...@domain.com
> expect "?COM:"
> send "password\r"
>
> The password never seems to get sent, but diags from -d switch indicate
> that the expect string did match.
>
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expect dosen't

2013-03-14 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
What's wrong with the following: 


#! /usr/bin/expect -f 


spawn /usr/bin/kinit u...@domain.com 
expect "?COM:" 
send "password\r" 


The password never seems to get sent, but diags from -d switch indicate that 
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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

On 03/14/2013 04:43 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:09:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

presence of /var/lib/rpm
/etc/os-release
/etc/redhat-release


And perhaps a run-time check, such as an RPM based query, which would
only work if the RPM database is filled with details about installed
files.

   $ rpm -qa|wc -l
   1601
   $ rpm -qf /sbin/init
   systemd-198-3.fc19.x86_64
   $ rpm -qf $(which bash)
   bash-4.2.45-1.fc19.x86_64



There's no standard way I know of that's guaranteed to work (I think LSB
has some bits that could help but since you can't depend on them being
installed or even available everywhere it's pretty much useless).

You could take a look at how sos does this:

https://github.com/sosreport/sosreport

Sos is a support data collection tool written in python. The upstream
version now runs on Fedora, RHEL, RHEV, RHS, Debian, Ubuntu, Mac OSX,
and Windows. It abstracts package management in a policy class - each
target defines a policy which probes the environment to determine
whether it should be the active policy. So for e.g. if
/etc/fedora-release or /etc/redhat-release exists the redhat policy is
activated.

This is fairly robust and lets you define hierarchies (e.g. the Ubuntu
policy extends Debian policy, and both Debian and Red Hat policies
inherit from a common LinuxPolicy) so that policies can share common
bits of implementation.

The downside is that you have to create and maintain the policies and
either add support for each new flavour or provide generic fall backs
that do a reasonable job on unknown hosts.

Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Joe Zeff  wrote:
> On 03/14/2013 03:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> so the next time before you waste time of others
>> state in the opening post that you are running
>> a different distribution and somebody which may
>> have ubuntu expierience maybe could even help
>> you but if we all look into glassballs*grrr*
>
>
> In this I agree with you 100%, except for one, very minor nitpick: the term
> you're looking for (in English) is crystal ball.
>
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HI

I am sorry about that..

I saw the problem as a Linux issue and not a Ubuntu/Red Hat/Debian issue.

Looks like the answer is user configuration error..

My feeling is that as a Linux user I should be able to follow
instructions and install applications correctly.  As it turned out...
I misconfigured something..  And needed someone to hit me with the
Clue Stick.  Which, again, I didn't see as a problem associated with a
particular distribution.

I apologize to everyone that I upset.  That wasn't my goal..

Thanks for all the great help...

Marvin






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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 03/14/13 22:28, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
>> You have denyhosts configured to monitor '/var/log/messages' but failed login
>> attempts are being logged to '/etc/log/auth.log'.
>>
>> In '/etc/denyhosts.conf' (or whatever file is used to configure denyhosts on
>> Ubuntu) set:
>>
>>   # Ubuntu
>>   SECURE_LOG = /etc/log/auth.log
>>   # Redhat or Fedora Core:
>>   #SECURE_LOG = /var/log/secure
>
> Just a note of interest.  It seems there is a bit of inconsistency between 
> Ubuntu releases/versions.  Today I installed 12.04 LTS + denyhosts.  The 
> default denyhosts.conf contains
>
> #
> # Mac OS X (v10.3 or earlier):
> #SECURE_LOG=/private/var/log/system.log
> #
> # Debian:
> SECURE_LOG = /var/log/auth.log
>
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HI

I agree

And I used the 2.6 tar ball and that is different then what is in the
repositories


TIA

Marvin




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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/14/2013 03:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

so the next time before you waste time of others
state in the opening post that you are running
a different distribution and somebody which may
have ubuntu expierience maybe could even help
you but if we all look into glassballs*grrr*


In this I agree with you 100%, except for one, very minor nitpick: the 
term you're looking for (in English) is crystal ball.

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Re: Fedora 18: Mouse regressions

2013-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/14/2013 12:40 AM, Dan Irwin wrote:

Also, "Paint and paste" (To borrow a term from an earlier thread here)
is broken. In a terminal, I like to highlight text, and click to
paste. This does not work, and I don't like it.


How are you trying to paste?  ^V, Shift-^V or right-click-Paste?
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Re: [389-users] dsadmin python library

2013-03-14 Thread Rich Megginson

On 03/14/2013 10:59 AM, Roberto Polli wrote:

On Wednesday 13 March 2013 09:33:05 Rich Megginson wrote:

a separate github repo just for dsadmin.py

yes. It could become an useful stand-alone library.
What about the scripts such as dirsynccrtl.py, winsyncssl.py, etc. that 
use dsadmin.py?  Should they be in the same repo as dsadmin.py?


Peace,
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Re: [389-users] dsadmin python library

2013-03-14 Thread Roberto Polli
On Wednesday 13 March 2013 09:33:05 Rich Megginson wrote:
> a separate github repo just for dsadmin.py
yes. It could become an useful stand-alone library.

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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:09:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

> > I'm trying to find a standard way of finding the native packaging
> > system of a linux distribution. I'm not sure at all that testing the
> > presence of {rpm/yum}|{apt-get} is reliable as for example I can
> > install apt-get of my fedora computer.
> > 
> > So the question is, is there a simple test that can reliably determine
> > whether a linux machine is rpm or debian based for its native package
> > scheme?
> 
> presence of /var/lib/rpm
> /etc/os-release
> /etc/redhat-release

And perhaps a run-time check, such as an RPM based query, which would
only work if the RPM database is filled with details about installed
files.

  $ rpm -qa|wc -l
  1601
  $ rpm -qf /sbin/init
  systemd-198-3.fc19.x86_64
  $ rpm -qf $(which bash)
  bash-4.2.45-1.fc19.x86_64

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Re: Installing VNCSERVER on Linux machine

2013-03-14 Thread Fedora User
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:16 +, Norah Jones wrote:
> How can I install vncserver on my linux machine so that I can connect
> from windows client.

I prefer Tiger: #yum install tigervnc-server

Works great from my android phone.

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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/14/13 22:28, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> You have denyhosts configured to monitor '/var/log/messages' but failed login
> attempts are being logged to '/etc/log/auth.log'.
>
> In '/etc/denyhosts.conf' (or whatever file is used to configure denyhosts on
> Ubuntu) set:
>
>   # Ubuntu
>   SECURE_LOG = /etc/log/auth.log
>   # Redhat or Fedora Core:
>   #SECURE_LOG = /var/log/secure

Just a note of interest.  It seems there is a bit of inconsistency between 
Ubuntu releases/versions.  Today I installed 12.04 LTS + denyhosts.  The 
default denyhosts.conf contains

#
# Mac OS X (v10.3 or earlier):
#SECURE_LOG=/private/var/log/system.log
#
# Debian:
SECURE_LOG = /var/log/auth.log

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Re: packages installed

2013-03-14 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 03/14/2013 06:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> and if you want a usefull list without version-numbers
> which are not helpful to install the same packages
> months later on another machine:
> 
> [root@rh:~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/packages
> #!/usr/bin/bash
> /bin/nice -n 19 /bin/rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name}\n" | sort | tee 
> /root/packages.txt
> chmod 644 /root/packages.txt

I used to struggle to remove the version numbers from the names.

I have also wanted one of those. Thanks a lot for that.  :-)

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Re: Non-fatal booting error in F17/F18

2013-03-14 Thread bitlord
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 08:40 +, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 2013/3/13 Frank McCormick :
> > On 13-03-13 07:13 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> On bootup, just before the GRUB screen is shown there is a quick
> >> error/message; it's difficult to record the flash, but it is something 
> >> like:
> >> error: /grub2/locale/ ???  ?Missing File?
> >>
> >> Is there some sort of validation check that takes place, looking for some
> >> sort of match of files located in /boot/grub2/locale/ ?
> 
> I researched this a few months ago with the help of my phone camera.
> It is nothing to worry about, just GRUB complaining about a missing
> locale (i.e. translation) file.
> 
> Greetings,
> -- 
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And if someone is interested in bug reported to follow, it is #817187 on
redhat bugzilla ;-)  

(First time on the list, Hello ;-)

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Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 16:07, schrieb Theodore Papadopoulo:
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> I'm trying to find a standard way of finding the native packaging
> system of a linux distribution. I'm not sure at all that testing the
> presence of {rpm/yum}|{apt-get} is reliable as for example I can
> install apt-get of my fedora computer.
> 
> So the question is, is there a simple test that can reliably determine
> whether a linux machine is rpm or debian based for its native package
> scheme?

presence of /var/lib/rpm
/etc/os-release
/etc/redhat-release




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Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-14 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
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I'm trying to find a standard way of finding the native packaging
system of a linux distribution. I'm not sure at all that testing the
presence of {rpm/yum}|{apt-get} is reliable as for example I can
install apt-get of my fedora computer.

So the question is, is there a simple test that can reliably determine
whether a linux machine is rpm or debian based for its native package
scheme ?

Thank's in advance,

Theo.
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Oliver


I noticed from your other emails that you are running Ubuntu.  The
little differences in file locations between distros can be a big hassle.

billo


On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Bill Oliver  wrote:


Are you sure you don't have a lock file that's not getting deleted?  I'd
check that next.

billo









Thanks for the comeback..

Will check all points..  And report back..

As you can see for the partial log file below..  I believe it is
getting the lock file.  I also think the daemon is starting and then
exiting for some reason.

TIA


Marvin






On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Marvin Kosmal  wrote:


Hi

Is anyone running Denyhosts?

I have it installed.. It says it is running but, nothing is happening..

TIA

Marvin






This is from my log file


Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO restricted: set([])
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO Processing log file
(/var/log/messages) from offset (0)
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO launching DenyHosts daemon
(version 2.6)...
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO DenyHosts daemon is now
running, pid: 31528
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO send daemon process a TERM
signal to terminate cleanly
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO   eg.  kill -TERM 31528
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO monitoring log: /var/log/messages
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO sync_time: 3600
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO purging of /etc/hosts.deny is
disabled
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO denyhosts synchronization
disabled

Does this really mean it starts and shuts down immediately.??

Or don't I  understand the log?

TIA

Marvin
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Matthew J. Roth  wrote:
> Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>
>> This is from my log file
>> ...
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO monitoring log: /var/log/messages
>> ...
>>
>> What do you have in /etc/log/auth.log
>>
>> I have this kind of stuff in mine
>>
>> Mar 13 09:27:58 kosmal sshd[31232]: Failed password for root from
>> 88.191.154.90 port 51934 ssh2
>> Mar 13 09:27:58 kosmal sshd[31232]: Received disconnect from
>> 88.191.154.90: 11: Bye Bye [preauth]
>> Mar 13 09:27:59 kosmal sshd[31234]: pam_unix(sshd:auth):
>> authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser=
>> rhost=88-191-154-90.rev.dedibox.fr  user=root
>
> Marvin,
>
> You have denyhosts configured to monitor '/var/log/messages' but failed login
> attempts are being logged to '/etc/log/auth.log'.
>
> In '/etc/denyhosts.conf' (or whatever file is used to configure denyhosts on
> Ubuntu) set:
>
>   # Ubuntu
>   SECURE_LOG = /etc/log/auth.log
>   # Redhat or Fedora Core:
>   #SECURE_LOG = /var/log/secure
>
> and restart denyhosts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew Roth
> InterMedia Marketing Solutions
> Software Engineer and Systems Developer


HI

Made the change..

Restarted denyhosts


Report back  when I have results..

Thanks

Marvin



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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> 
> This is from my log file
> ...
> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO monitoring log: /var/log/messages
> ...
> 
> What do you have in /etc/log/auth.log
> 
> I have this kind of stuff in mine
> 
> Mar 13 09:27:58 kosmal sshd[31232]: Failed password for root from
> 88.191.154.90 port 51934 ssh2
> Mar 13 09:27:58 kosmal sshd[31232]: Received disconnect from
> 88.191.154.90: 11: Bye Bye [preauth]
> Mar 13 09:27:59 kosmal sshd[31234]: pam_unix(sshd:auth):
> authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser=
> rhost=88-191-154-90.rev.dedibox.fr  user=root

Marvin,

You have denyhosts configured to monitor '/var/log/messages' but failed login
attempts are being logged to '/etc/log/auth.log'.

In '/etc/denyhosts.conf' (or whatever file is used to configure denyhosts on
Ubuntu) set:

  # Ubuntu
  SECURE_LOG = /etc/log/auth.log
  # Redhat or Fedora Core:
  #SECURE_LOG = /var/log/secure

and restart denyhosts.

Regards,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Bill Oliver  wrote:
>
> Are you sure you don't have a lock file that's not getting deleted?  I'd
> check that next.
>
> billo
>







Thanks for the comeback..

Will check all points..  And report back..

As you can see for the partial log file below..  I believe it is
getting the lock file.  I also think the daemon is starting and then
exiting for some reason.

TIA


Marvin




>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Marvin Kosmal  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Is anyone running Denyhosts?
>>>
>>> I have it installed.. It says it is running but, nothing is happening..
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Marvin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is from my log file
>>
>>
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO restricted: set([])
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO Processing log file
>> (/var/log/messages) from offset (0)
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO launching DenyHosts daemon
>> (version 2.6)...
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO DenyHosts daemon is now
>> running, pid: 31528
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO send daemon process a TERM
>> signal to terminate cleanly
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO   eg.  kill -TERM 31528
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO monitoring log: /var/log/messages
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO sync_time: 3600
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO purging of /etc/hosts.deny is
>> disabled
>> Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO denyhosts synchronization
>> disabled
>>
>> Does this really mean it starts and shuts down immediately.??
>>
>> Or don't I  understand the log?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Marvin
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Re: Is gnome-disks really incapable of dealing with a blank drive?

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/14/2013 07:02 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Am I missing something, or is the gnome-disks utility
> really this useless?

At the top right of the program (to the right of your hard drive name)
there is a button with two gears. Click on "Format Disk..." to partition.
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Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-14 Thread Dokuro
I made a blog post about my installation and it is the same win7 fed18
setup!

here I failed
http://dokuro-web-dev.blogspot.com/2013/01/installing-fedoras-spherical-cow.html
and here I made it!
http://dokuro-web-dev.blogspot.com/2013/01/anaconda-2-cows-revenge.html


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, William Mattison wrote:

> Thank-you, Tim.  I plan to attempt the install today.  - Bill.
>
> --- On Thu, 3/14/13, Tim  wrote:
>
> > From: Tim 
> > Subject: Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?
> > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 6:52 AM
> > On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 08:04 -0700,
> > William Mattison wrote:
> > > I have a dual boot desktop with Fedora 18 (from the
> > Live Media) and
> > > Windows 7 home.  I need to delete the Fedora 18
> > install.
> >
> > If you find that you're unable to install over the top, as
> > the other
> > reply suggests, and as some posts on this list seem to
> > suggest that some
> > people have had trouble doing, you can:
> >
> > Boot from some other Linux disc (including the install
> > disc), make your
> > way into a command line, run the "fdisk" program and delete
> > the Linux
> > partition(s).
> >
> > If, for example, your Linux partition was on /dev/sda2, then
> > it'd be
> > something like this:
> >
> > fdisk /dev/sda
> >
> > Press the "m" key then enter, to see fdisk's menu; press the
> > hotkey to
> > delete a partition, choose the right partition to remove,
> > then write the
> > partition table to disk and quit out of the fdisk program.
> >
> > Now, the details about what was your Fedora partition is
> > lost, so an
> > install should believe that part of the disc is unused and
> > available.
> >
> > --
> > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> >
> > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is
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> > read messages from the public lists.
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Re: packages installed

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.03.2013 14:02, schrieb Richard Shaw:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jorge Martínez López  
> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Patrick Dupre :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> In fedora 16 there was a directory /var/log/rpmpkgs
>>> where I could find a record or the installed packages.
>>> This directory does not seem to exist any more.
>>> Has it moved somewhere else?
>>
>> /var/log/yum.log
>>
>> or yum list installed
> 
> If you really just want a current list of installed packages (not when
> they were installed or what repo they came from) try:
> 
> rpm -qa
> 
> which is much faster than yum, but to be useful I would dump it in a text 
> file:
> 
> rpm -qa > installed.txt

and if you want a usefull list without version-numbers
which are not helpful to install the same packages
months later on another machine:

[root@rh:~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/packages
#!/usr/bin/bash
/bin/nice -n 19 /bin/rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name}\n" | sort | tee 
/root/packages.txt
chmod 644 /root/packages.txt



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Re: packages installed

2013-03-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jorge Martínez López  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 2013/3/13 Patrick Dupre :
>> Hello,
>>
>> In fedora 16 there was a directory /var/log/rpmpkgs
>> where I could find a record or the installed packages.
>> This directory does not seem to exist any more.
>> Has it moved somewhere else?
>
> /var/log/yum.log
>
> or yum list installed

If you really just want a current list of installed packages (not when
they were installed or what repo they came from) try:

rpm -qa

which is much faster than yum, but to be useful I would dump it in a text file:

rpm -qa > installed.txt

or if you're looking for something in particular:

rpm -qa | grep -i 

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Re: nut

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 03/13/2013 03:45 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to have my UPS OK. After a lot of efforts I am at a point where
> I get:
> 
> 
> Dependency failed for Network UPS Tools - power devices information
> server. -- Subject: Unit nut-server.service has failed -- Defined-By:
> systemd -- Support:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel --
> Documentation: 
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/catalog/be02cf6855d2428ba40df7e9d022f03d
>
> 
Looks like setroubleshoot is complaining about an AVC, so SELinux is probably
blocking your access.


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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Oliver


Are you sure you don't have a lock file that's not getting deleted?  I'd
check that next.

billo

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Marvin Kosmal  wrote:

Hi

Is anyone running Denyhosts?

I have it installed.. It says it is running but, nothing is happening..

TIA

Marvin





This is from my log file


Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO restricted: set([])
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO Processing log file
(/var/log/messages) from offset (0)
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO launching DenyHosts daemon
(version 2.6)...
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO DenyHosts daemon is now
running, pid: 31528
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO send daemon process a TERM
signal to terminate cleanly
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO   eg.  kill -TERM 31528
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO monitoring log: /var/log/messages
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO sync_time: 3600
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO purging of /etc/hosts.deny is disabled
Mar 13 21:05:01 - denyhosts   : INFO denyhosts synchronization disabled

Does this really mean it starts and shuts down immediately.??

Or don't I  understand the log?

TIA

Marvin
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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Bill Oliver



On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:



Hi

Thanks to everyone who replied..

I am running denyhosts on a machine that is remote and I do all my
work over ssh.  The owner of the remote machine just upgrade the
machine I needed to reinstall everything.

When I say denyhosts is not working that means that people are trying
to ssh into that machine as root hunderds of times.  Or trying to log
in with any name.

On the old machine.  If you tried to log in as root one time, you were
denied access.  If you tried to log in with bin you get 10 tries and
then were denied.

Now that is not happening.

As I was remote the first thing I always did was to put my ip address
in hosts allow.  In the event I fell asleep and used the wrong
password several times in a row.  I have several passwords I use at
different places.

So I launch denyhosts from the command line and it gets a pid and is
running.  But, nothing happens.  People try to ssh in and denyhosts
never comes up and denies access...

I didn't make a copy of my old config file...  So I can't fall back on that.

I don't want to change the ssh port.   Not my machine. ...

TIA

Marvin
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As others have noted, make sure that you are using the
/var/lib/denyhosts/allowed-hosts and not /etc/hosts.allowed.

You say you are running it from the command line.  I know this is
obvious, but I have to ask.  Are you running it as root?  If you're not,
it may not be able to get access to the log files it parses.

Here are the things that I had to check in the default
/etc/denyhosts.conf 
to make it work for me:


1) Make sure that you have the right hosts.deny file chosen -- on some
machines it's hosts.allow, hosts.evil, etc.  For me, it's
/etc/hosts.deny.

2) Make sure you have BLOCK_SERVICE set to what you want.  I have it set
to ALL.

3) Check DENY_HOSTS_INVALID (number of times a nonuser name can be
tried) and DENY_HOSTS_VALID (number of times a real user name can be
tried) and make sure they are reasonable numbers.  There are other user
categories, but those are the two that your test runs should hit on.

4) Make sure that WORK_DIR is correct.  For me it is /var/lib/denyhosts.

5) Make sure you have logging turned on (SECURE_LOG).  See point 8.

6) Since you say that you have it running in the foreground and is 
really running, this is probably not the issue, but it might not hurt 
to make sure that when it *isn't* running that there's no

/var/lock/subsys/denyhosts file.

7) Make sure that denyhosts is looking at the right file for 
problems and that the failures are written in some standard way to the 
log file it looks at.  Do you have ssh set up to log failures to a file

other than /var/log/messages?  Make sure that denyhosts knows where to
look.

8) Finally, you can increase the log level of denyhosts, either by
running it with --verbose or --debug options. That might tell you what
is going wrong.


HTH

billo




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Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Thank-you, Tim.  I plan to attempt the install today.  - Bill.

--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Tim  wrote:

> From: Tim 
> Subject: Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 6:52 AM
> On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 08:04 -0700,
> William Mattison wrote:
> > I have a dual boot desktop with Fedora 18 (from the
> Live Media) and
> > Windows 7 home.  I need to delete the Fedora 18
> install.
> 
> If you find that you're unable to install over the top, as
> the other
> reply suggests, and as some posts on this list seem to
> suggest that some
> people have had trouble doing, you can:
> 
> Boot from some other Linux disc (including the install
> disc), make your
> way into a command line, run the "fdisk" program and delete
> the Linux
> partition(s).
> 
> If, for example, your Linux partition was on /dev/sda2, then
> it'd be
> something like this:
> 
> fdisk /dev/sda
> 
> Press the "m" key then enter, to see fdisk's menu; press the
> hotkey to
> delete a partition, choose the right partition to remove,
> then write the
> partition table to disk and quit out of the fdisk program.
> 
> Now, the details about what was your Fedora partition is
> lost, so an
> install should believe that part of the disc is unused and
> available.
> 
> -- 
> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> 
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> ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
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Is gnome-disks really incapable of dealing with a blank drive?

2013-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
I popped in my new 4TB drive yesterday and tried to use
gnome-disks to create a giant ext4 partition.

I couldn't find any option anywhere to create partitions,
I only found options to format, so I figured that would
implicitly create the partitions.

But no, it formatted /dev/sdc as an ext4 filesystem
(NOT /dev/sdc1).

Am I missing something, or is the gnome-disks utility
really this useless?

I eventually wrote a few megabytes of zeroes over the
top of it then used gparted instead to create a new
gpt partition table and make /dev/sdc1 (finally) an
ext4 partition.
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Re: Re: About that installer...

2013-03-14 Thread Tony Camuso

On 03/13/2013 09:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/14/13 09:22, Dan Irwin wrote:

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Tony Camuso 
wrote:

But, yes, if F17 installs to that partition and F18 does not,
then it's a regression.

Has the original poster filed a bugzilla on this yet?

No he hasn't, for various reasons :-) Should I file one?


IMO, probably not.  Especially so if you only have a "vague memory".

If you go back in the archives of this list you'll see this subject
repeats itself.  Nothing will be done for F18.  Very soon you'll see
F19 testing ISO created and there will be time to test changes that
have been made for F19.  So, what probably would be most helpful
would be to get involved on the "test" list.



Yes, at this point in the development cycle, this is probably the best
advice.
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Re: Re: Re: About that installer...

2013-03-14 Thread Tony Camuso

On 03/13/2013 09:22 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:

No he hasn't, for various reasons :-) Should I file one? I have
nothing but a vague memory of the sequence of the problems/dialogs.


bugzilla wants clear steps to reproduce the bug. The more info the
better, except that log files should be attachments, not pasted-in.
System hardware/firmware details should be provided as well.


So, an update.

I just attempted to install F18 over the top of F17. And it seems to
be working...

I got the popup about not having enough free space, so I clicked  to
delete /boot and / from F17, pressed continue, and the installer liked
it.

Right now its probably 75% done installing packages.

What is different now?


Are you using the very same install image that was giving you the
problem before?



sda3 and sda4 are formatted, operational, linux partitions.

Before they were empty, unpartitioned space, or in one case, empty
unformatted partitions.

And in the time I have taken to type this email, the install is done. Seriously.

Welcome screen done. One operational F18 laptop.

Happy days.



I love happy endings. :)

But if you are able to reproduce the original bug, file a bugzilla.
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Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-14 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 08:04 -0700, William Mattison wrote:
> I have a dual boot desktop with Fedora 18 (from the Live Media) and
> Windows 7 home.  I need to delete the Fedora 18 install.

If you find that you're unable to install over the top, as the other
reply suggests, and as some posts on this list seem to suggest that some
people have had trouble doing, you can:

Boot from some other Linux disc (including the install disc), make your
way into a command line, run the "fdisk" program and delete the Linux
partition(s).

If, for example, your Linux partition was on /dev/sda2, then it'd be
something like this:

fdisk /dev/sda

Press the "m" key then enter, to see fdisk's menu; press the hotkey to
delete a partition, choose the right partition to remove, then write the
partition table to disk and quit out of the fdisk program.

Now, the details about what was your Fedora partition is lost, so an
install should believe that part of the disc is unused and available.

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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.03.2013 07:11, schrieb Marvin Kosmal:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 03/14/13 14:03, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> Yes,  I am running Ubuntu 12.04
>>>
>>> I am running 2.6
>>
>> Ubuntu?  Maybe their list will be more helpful?
>>
> I am thinking this is a denyhosts problem..
> 
> I was viewing this as a Linux problem and was hoping to get hit with
> the clue stick..!!  hehe

what the hell

every distribution has other major versions of different
packages, often differnt paths and so on

so the next time before you waste time of others
state in the opening post that you are running
a different distribution and somebody which may
have ubuntu expierience maybe could even help
you but if we all look into glassballs *grrr*





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Re: DenyHosts

2013-03-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/14/13 14:17, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 03/14/13 14:11, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
 On 03/14/13 14:03, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> Yes,  I am running Ubuntu 12.04
>
>
>
> I am running 2.6
 Ubuntu?  Maybe their list will be more helpful?

>>> I am thinking this is a denyhosts problem..
>>>
>>> I was viewing this as a Linux problem and was hoping to get hit with
>>> the clue stick..!!  hehe
>>>
>>> I used to run Fedora which is why I am still on this list..
>>>
>> Well, working fine for me on Fedora.  So, maybe it is something "strange" in 
>> Ubuntu.  I'm not familiar with that distro's way of doing things.
>>
>>
>
> OK
>
> Thanks
>

FWIW, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a VM.  I installed and tested 
denyhosts and it works just fine without any changes. 

denyhosts.conf is in /etc  and the log file it is scanning based on the config 
file is /var/log/auth.log


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Re: non-fatal errors during boot

2013-03-14 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 03/12/2013 10:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 12.03.2013 18:10, schrieb Steven Stern:
>> I receive errors when booting:
>>
>> 1.  cannot load the splashimage (file not found)
>> 2.  "keytable" deprecated
>> 3.  font "true" not found
>>
>> title Fedora (3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64)
>> root (hd0,1)
>> kernel /vmlinuz-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64
>> root=UUID=cb50f2fc-5f16-4a1c-8dc5-2bcc76ab5e80 rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0
>>  KEYTABLE=us SYSFONT=True rd.luks=0 ro LANG=en_US.UTF-8  quiet
>> initrd /initramfs-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64.img
>> title Fedora (3.8.1-201.fc18.x86_64)
>> root (hd0,1)
> 
> keytable is no longer needed
> font=true is simply wrong
> remove them from the grub-config and /etc/default/grub
> 
Then backup /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

and run

grub2-mkconfig > /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

to have the changes made used.

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Re: Non-fatal booting error in F17/F18

2013-03-14 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi!

2013/3/13 Frank McCormick :
> On 13-03-13 07:13 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> On bootup, just before the GRUB screen is shown there is a quick
>> error/message; it's difficult to record the flash, but it is something like:
>> error: /grub2/locale/ ???  ?Missing File?
>>
>> Is there some sort of validation check that takes place, looking for some
>> sort of match of files located in /boot/grub2/locale/ ?

I researched this a few months ago with the help of my phone camera.
It is nothing to worry about, just GRUB complaining about a missing
locale (i.e. translation) file.

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Fedora 18: Mouse regressions

2013-03-14 Thread Dan Irwin
The touchpad on my laptop is only good as a basic mouse. I can't use
any gestures, and I can't see any options to enable them. Am I missing
something?

Also, "Paint and paste" (To borrow a term from an earlier thread here)
is broken. In a terminal, I like to highlight text, and click to
paste. This does not work, and I don't like it.

Can anyone point me at any documentation on how to fix these things?

And are these regressions, or has someone decided this functionality
is no longer required?

I know there has been debate by the fdo people about the multitude of
clipboard mechanisms, and removing some. Hopefully the missing Paint
and paste isnt the result of this.

Thank you all.
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