Re: undo rm -rf *

[Celik]

 At some point a

> pseudo-rm is going to fail, either because the implementer didn't handle
> some corner case correctly, or because you typed rm instead of nrm, or
> because a file was removed by a program without anyone typing anything,
> and the only solution is to have a backup. So if you're going to have a
> backup anyway, what's the point?
>

Lets say we did a daily backup at 9:00am and deleted some files by error at
5:00 pm. Then what???

A daily backup plus some kind of control mechanism prior to rm (ls and/or
nrm) seems to solve the above mentioned scenario. Anyway that's what I've
learned from my experience.




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Re: yum upgrade

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 17:02 +0530, Prashanth Kasula wrote:
> Dear  All,
> 
> I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to
> start audit.d service.
> 
> Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent

Please don't hijack threads. If you want to start a new topic, compose a
fresh message and don't just reply to some unrelated one.

poc

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Re: undo rm -rf *

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 23:58 -0700, Rick Walker wrote:
> > > I'm not a fan of trash directories.  They give you a second chance, but
> > > you may end up not really deleting things you wanted to delete.  What
> > > about a simple script something like this?  
> 
> If you want something a bit more polished, you might check out
> "nrm", available  at http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/nrm.html
> 
> It's a C program written to have the same arguments, return codes and
> side effects as /bin/rm to the extent possible. 
> 
> It moves files into the hidden sub-directory ".gone" instead of removing
> files.  You can remove files with "-s" and you get sequenced backups -
> all files are saved with a time-stamp suffix for fine grained file
> restores.  There is a program "urm" to unremove the file, but most users
> just do "ls .gone" to see what they've recently removed and then just
> "mv" it back to their working directory. 
> 
> There is an associated cron job that runs every day to permanently
> remove all deleted files that are older than a configurable age.
> The default is 3 days so you can get things back on Monday that you nuked
> on Friday. 

I prefer to run a daily cron job to back up my home directory, which
also allows me to look back over previous versions. I happen to use
rsnapshot for this, but plenty pf other solutions exist. At some point a
pseudo-rm is going to fail, either because the implementer didn't handle
some corner case correctly, or because you typed rm instead of nrm, or
because a file was removed by a program without anyone typing anything,
and the only solution is to have a backup. So if you're going to have a
backup anyway, what's the point?

poc

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Re: F18 defect in playing CDs.

[Alexander Volovics]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:29:26PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:

> Previously in earlier versions of Fedora under GNOME when you put in a
> CD it played the CD with whatever program you indicated should be used
> automatically. Now that I have installed F18 on a second machine I found
> the same behavior as on the first machine. The CD is not played
> automatically but has to be played manually.
> 
> Why is this or what am I doing wrong?

System Settings -> Details -> Removable Media -> CD audio / Music player

AV
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Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

[Jim]

On 03/24/2013 09:14 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:

On 03/24/2013 08:54 PM, Jim wrote:

The thing that is blowing my mind and I just don't understand,  Why is

this 2009 Samsung driver working on a Asus Mini Laptop w/Fedora 18 and
not a Acer and HP PC towers.

There has got to be something very Simple going on.


Check the cups filter chain for correct ownership and permissions. Set
it up in debug mode and look for clues as to what's hanging it up.  I
fought with it for quite a while on one distribution, I don't remember
which one, that had a problem with the filter chain.  The issue may
have been caused by the distribution, not the Samsung driver. YMMV



var/log/messages


Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 kernel: [ 1643.981375] traps:
rastertosamsung[1993] general protection ip:4cd237e7 sp:bfbc458c error:0
in libc-2.15.so[4cbe8000+1ab000]
Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 abrt[2002]: Saved core dump of pid
1993 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungsplc) to
/var/spool/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-23-13:52:43-1993 (10006528 bytes)




Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 abrt[2002]: Saved core dump of pid
1993 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungsplc) to
/var/spool/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-23-13:52:43-1993 (10006528 bytes)

Check that rastertosamsungsplc has ownership and permissions similar 
to other filters in /usr/lib/cups/filter


Is should probably be something like:

-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  17960 Mar  1 04:41 rastertosamsungsplc

All the files in the /filter folder had the -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 
permission settings.


The main problem was the old driver not working with latest Fedora 18.

This Website had a version 4,00 of the UnifiedLinuxDriver that did a 
better job than the older driver.


http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/forum/index.php?board=2.0

and here

http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/
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Re: F18 defect in playing CDs.

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/28/2013 04:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

Why is this or what am I doing wrong?


I don't use Gnome.  However, under Xfce, there's a Control Panel under 
Settings, named "Removable Drives and Media" that controls this. 
There's probably a similar one for Gnome if you check around a little. 
HTH, HAND.

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F18 defect in playing CDs.

[Aaron Konstam]

Previously in earlier versions of Fedora under GNOME when you put in a
CD it played the CD with whatever program you indicated should be used
automatically. Now that I have installed F18 on a second machine I found
the same behavior as on the first machine. The CD is not played
automatically but has to be played manually.

Why is this or what am I doing wrong?
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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Suvayu Ali]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 04:18:44PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> > In light of that, a friendly reminder that the release is EOL
> > followed by the specific help the OP is looking for might be a more
> > useful response
> 
> the OP does not provide any information to help him and 5
> identical posts does not add any information

Maybe the OP is a newbie, maybe he is not familiar with email etiquette
on mailing lists, there could be numerous other reasons.  I think it is
always wise to give the benefit of the doubt.  If there is lack of
information, pointing it out is more useful than getting all worked up
about it.  Don't you think?

Anyway, I feel this list has become very intolerant lately, maybe even
hostile at times.  This leads to a very unwelcoming atmosphere.  As a
community, this does not put Fedora in a positive light.

Just a thought.

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Re: yum upgrade

[Edik Landaveri]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 05:46:03PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:41:42 +
> Timothy Murphy  wrote:
>  often enough steps you CAN NOT automate
> > 
> > CentOS seems able to do it ...
> > 
> > 
> 
> CentOS cannot be dist-upgrade, as RHEL cannot.

Neither Scientific Linux. It only "upgrades" from one minor version to
another: 6.2 -> 6.3. 
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Re: Samba 4

[Gabriel VLASIU]

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> I'm running into the same thing. Did you figure anything out?
Unfortunately, no. :-(


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Re: Samba 4

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 01/31/2013 08:10 AM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote:
> The important thing here is "create mask". I do not want all files created 
> by users to be executable in linux.
>
> The same definition work in samba 4 with the exception of running windoze 
> .exe files from the share. In windoze, there is no read & exec permissions 
> associated with the file. Only read for everyone and read/write for unix 
> user/group. I can manually set the exec flag (from linux or windoze) but 
> this has to be made every time someone copy an executable file.
>
> Any chance to revert to the behavior from samba 3?

I'm running into the same thing. Did you figure anything out?
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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:21:09PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 28.03.2013 16:56, schrieb Bill Oliver:
> 
> > Sometimes its good to try to be helpful even if the person can't take 
> > advantage of the kneejerk obvious response. 
> > There can be lots of reasons that a person can't upgrade an OS.
> > 
> > For instance, I am closely affiliated with a very large multi-hospital 
> > group that is still running Windows XP. 
> > Why?  The reason is that the healthcare software (case management, 
> > automated medical records, etc.) has to be
> > approved by the Food and Drug Administration before it can be substantially 
> > changed
> 
> and what has this do with Fedora?

Bill is trying to explain why the OP might not be in a position to
simply reinstall or upgrade.

> if you install fedora the life-cycle is known

It may not have been at the time the person installed.  Assume good
intentions, please.  If you are not willing to help further, it's OK
to simply move on to another thread. :-)

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Re: yum upgrade

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.03.2013 18:41, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>>> I wonder if they'll ever automate the upgrade process? to make it
>>> easier to go from one version to the next? seems like it would help
>>> make the process smoother for newbies
> 
>> the yum-dist-upgrade is NOT for beginners and if
>> you read the wiki-page you see that there are
>> often enough steps you CAN NOT automate
> 
> CentOS seems able to do it ...

CENTOS HAS NO DIST-UPGRADES AT ALL
No 5.1 to 5.2 is NOT at dist-upgrade



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Re: yum upgrade

[Frank Murphy]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:41:42 +
Timothy Murphy  wrote:
 often enough steps you CAN NOT automate
> 
> CentOS seems able to do it ...
> 
> 

CentOS cannot be dist-upgrade, as RHEL cannot.
http://www.unixmen.com/upgrading-from-centos-56-to-centos-6/


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Re: yum upgrade

[Timothy Murphy]

Reindl Harald wrote:

>> I wonder if they'll ever automate the upgrade process? to make it
>> easier to go from one version to the next? seems like it would help
>> make the process smoother for newbies

> the yum-dist-upgrade is NOT for beginners and if
> you read the wiki-page you see that there are
> often enough steps you CAN NOT automate

CentOS seems able to do it ...


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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.03.2013 16:56, schrieb Bill Oliver:

> Sometimes its good to try to be helpful even if the person can't take 
> advantage of the kneejerk obvious response. 
> There can be lots of reasons that a person can't upgrade an OS.
> 
> For instance, I am closely affiliated with a very large multi-hospital group 
> that is still running Windows XP. 
> Why?  The reason is that the healthcare software (case management, automated 
> medical records, etc.) has to be
> approved by the Food and Drug Administration before it can be substantially 
> changed

and what has this do with Fedora?
if you install fedora the life-cycle is known



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Re: unable to start SSH service

[poma]

On 28.03.2013 16:56, Bill Oliver wrote:
> 
>> Am 28.03.2013 16:08, schrieb Suvayu Ali:
>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:51:22PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:41:15 +0100
 Suvayu Ali  wrote:

>> Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
>> Is the solution
>
> Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
> OP's problem.
> 
> Sometimes its good to try to be helpful even if the person can't take
> advantage of the kneejerk obvious response.  There can be lots of
> reasons that a person can't upgrade an OS.
> 
> For instance, I am closely affiliated with a very large multi-hospital
> group that is still running Windows XP.  Why?  The reason is that the
> healthcare software (case management, automated medical records, etc.)
> has to be approved by the Food and Drug Administration before it can be
> substantially changed, and running it on a new operating system counts
> as a substantial change.  Unfortunately, the bureaucratic and regulatory
> mess involved with validating this kind of software can take years, and
> the switch will likely cost this organization over a million dollars. 
> And of course, as soon as it's done, it will already be "obsolete."
> 
> A few years ago, I directed a scientific laboratory that was very
> heterogeneous for similar reasons.  Many machines were dedicated to
> specific pieces of laboratory equipment, and the OS was determined by
> the needs of the software that ran the equipment, not my convenience.  I
> had one piece of equipment that required AmigaOS that we didn't
> decommission until 2008.
> 
> While upgrading is, indeed, the best solution, it may also be
> appropriate to help people who do not have that option.
> 
> That being said, it's hard to help without more information.  The most
> common things that have made ssh not work for me have been:
> 
> 1) Some ssh packages come initially configured to only allow ssh to
> localhost (127.0.0.1).  Make sure that's changed in the config file if
> your package is like that.
> 
> 2) Some initial configurations of selinux are not ssh friendly, either
> make sure that your selinix configuration allows ssh.
> 
> 3) Is this a server or client problem?  I wasn't sure from what you
> wrote whether your problem is that people can't get to your machine to
> ssh, or if you can't get to other machines from yours.
> 
> 4) Have you made sure this isn't a firewall/connection problem if it's a
> client issue -- perhaps the packets are getting munched by a firewall. 
> Can you get to and from other machines behind your firewall?  Can other
> machines get out through your firewall?
> 
> 5) You don't say whether your problem is global -- you can't ssh at all
> -- or to a specific host.  Many servers don't use the standard ports,
> and you need to make sure you are pointing to the right place. 
> Similarly, you need to make sure the server is actually serving.  Can
> you connect with netcat?
> 
> 6) If you are testing your client on your localhost as server, are you
> sure the daemon is really running?
> 
> 7) You need to show us what your log files say.  Are you having
> authorization problems?
> 
> 8) Is this a problem all the time or is it intermittent?
> 
> 9) Is your problem with standard sitting-at-the-console ssh, or is it
> with automatic-with-a-cron-job, or both?
> 

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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Bill Oliver]

Am 28.03.2013 16:08, schrieb Suvayu Ali:

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:51:22PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:41:15 +0100
Suvayu Ali  wrote:


Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
Is the solution


Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
OP's problem.


Sometimes its good to try to be helpful even if the person can't take advantage 
of the kneejerk obvious response.  There can be lots of reasons that a person 
can't upgrade an OS.

For instance, I am closely affiliated with a very large multi-hospital group that is 
still running Windows XP.  Why?  The reason is that the healthcare software (case 
management, automated medical records, etc.) has to be approved by the Food and Drug 
Administration before it can be substantially changed, and running it on a new operating 
system counts as a substantial change.  Unfortunately, the bureaucratic and regulatory 
mess involved with validating this kind of software can take years, and the switch will 
likely cost this organization over a million dollars.  And of course, as soon as it's 
done, it will already be "obsolete."

A few years ago, I directed a scientific laboratory that was very heterogeneous 
for similar reasons.  Many machines were dedicated to specific pieces of 
laboratory equipment, and the OS was determined by the needs of the software 
that ran the equipment, not my convenience.  I had one piece of equipment that 
required AmigaOS that we didn't decommission until 2008.

While upgrading is, indeed, the best solution, it may also be appropriate to 
help people who do not have that option.

That being said, it's hard to help without more information.  The most common 
things that have made ssh not work for me have been:

1) Some ssh packages come initially configured to only allow ssh to localhost 
(127.0.0.1).  Make sure that's changed in the config file if your package is 
like that.

2) Some initial configurations of selinux are not ssh friendly, either make 
sure that your selinix configuration allows ssh.

3) Is this a server or client problem?  I wasn't sure from what you wrote 
whether your problem is that people can't get to your machine to ssh, or if you 
can't get to other machines from yours.

4) Have you made sure this isn't a firewall/connection problem if it's a client 
issue -- perhaps the packets are getting munched by a firewall.  Can you get to 
and from other machines behind your firewall?  Can other machines get out 
through your firewall?

5) You don't say whether your problem is global -- you can't ssh at all -- or 
to a specific host.  Many servers don't use the standard ports, and you need to 
make sure you are pointing to the right place.  Similarly, you need to make 
sure the server is actually serving.  Can you connect with netcat?

6) If you are testing your client on your localhost as server, are you sure the 
daemon is really running?

7) You need to show us what your log files say.  Are you having authorization 
problems?

8) Is this a problem all the time or is it intermittent?

9) Is your problem with standard sitting-at-the-console ssh, or is it with 
automatic-with-a-cron-job, or both?


billo



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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.03.2013 16:08, schrieb Suvayu Ali:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:51:22PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:41:15 +0100
>> Suvayu Ali  wrote:
>>
 Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
 Is the solution
>>>
>>> Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
>>> OP's problem.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hepling OP stay on a possible _no_longer_secure_ box,
>> is no help either.
> 
> There are often other reasons like unavailability of time or resources,
> etc that prevents one from upgrading.

not really, a dist-upgrade doe snot take that long

> As a long time Fedora user you must know a distribution upgrade 
> is not something you take on without planning.  

and the lifetime-cycles are unknown?
F17 is out since a very very long time

> In light of that, a friendly reminder that the release is EOL
> followed by the specific help the OP is looking for might be a more
> useful response

the OP does not provide any information to help him and 5
identical posts does not add any information



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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Suvayu Ali]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:51:22PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:41:15 +0100
> Suvayu Ali  wrote:
> 
> > > Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
> > > Is the solution
> > 
> > Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
> > OP's problem.
> > 
> >
> 
> Hepling OP stay on a possible _no_longer_secure_ box,
> is no help either.

There are often other reasons like unavailability of time or resources,
etc that prevents one from upgrading.  As a long time Fedora user you
must know a distribution upgrade is not something you take on without
planning.  In light of that, a friendly reminder that the release is EOL
followed by the specific help the OP is looking for might be a more
useful response.

Just a thought.

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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Frank Murphy]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:41:15 +0100
Suvayu Ali  wrote:

> > Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
> > Is the solution
> 
> Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
> OP's problem.
> 
>

Hepling OP stay on a possible _no_longer_secure_ box,
is no help either.

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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Suvayu Ali]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:01:59PM +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:26:30 +0530
> Prashanth Kasula  wrote:
> 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > unable to start the ssh service in fedora 16
> 
> > Please help me any ine knows the issue resolution.
> > 
> 
> Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
> Is the solution

Although that is good advice, it is definitely not a solution to the
OP's problem.

That said, the OP should provide more information; just saying "unable
to start ssh service" is not enough.  What does it say when you do the
following:

# systemctl start sshd.service
# systemctl status sshd.service

What does /var/log/secure say?

# grep sshd /var/log/secure

If you do not provide the appropriate information, how can list members
help?

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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Frank Murphy]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:26:30 +0530
Prashanth Kasula  wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> unable to start the ssh service in fedora 16

> Please help me any ine knows the issue resolution.
> 

Upgrade to Fedora 17 or 18.
Is the solution


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Re: unable to start SSH service

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.03.2013 14:56, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
> unable to start the ssh service in fedora 16
> 
> Please help me any ine knows the issue resolution

STOP asking the same question 20 times
as said F16 is no longer supported

and if you need help provide infos from command outputs
and at least /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure



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unable to start SSH service

[Prashanth Kasula]

Dear All,

unable to start the ssh service in fedora 16



Please help me any ine knows the issue resolution.

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Re: Creating a server with Fedora 18

[Max Pyziur]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, les wrote:


On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 27.03.2013 18:55, schrieb les:


[...]


Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes


in this context i would not recommend Fdora for a server because it
has a limited release-lifetime and you have two options twice a year

* re-install
* dist-upgrade

re-install is not much funny and a dist-upgrade with rely on a
screen reader maybe also not because sometimes a lot of changes
which i personally would not want to take care of in this siutation

in this conext i would recommdn CentOS6 which has security updates
for arund 10 years, the backside is that you can't have major
upgrades of software for a specific release and a dist-upgrade
is mre or less impossible because the changes are too much


Thanks, Reindl,
He won't be too happy, he loved Fedora.  I'll google for the setups for
CentOS.  It looks like they are taking about 6.1 now on their website.

If you know of any good server setup instructions, I could sure use it.
I'll read up so I know a bit up front, and I may try to set up a server
locally so I see what the issues are.  My friend is a really good man,
and I will help where I can.  It has taken him a few years to get to a
place where he is ready to try this.  Life deals us bad hands some times
I guess.


I agree with Reindl on this. Fedora is insufferably bleeding-edge to 
the point that it has even alienated its core developers with the 
aggressiveness of its release cycle:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/04121194250082892/posts/aCiB7kTLXTh

CentOS is targeting a stable, long-lived run (I think ver. 6.x has an 
end-of-life of 2020?)


Nevertheless, both Fedora and CentOS distributions are directed at user 
communities that 
can engage with the configuration and setup of their systems, including 
text-editing of key configuration files.


Start with a minimal installation, and then build from there using yum.
Also, include other repositories such as epel and rpmfusion*.

http://www.centos.org/



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Re: ssh connection error

[Reindl Harald]

and how often will you forward the same question
including highjack others threads?

FEDORA 16 IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED

this was still answered

Am 28.03.2013 13:36, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Prashanth Kasula*  >
> Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: ssh connection error
> To: Community support for Fedora users  >
> Cc: users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Prashanth Kasula  > wrote:
> 
> Dear  All,
> 
> I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to 
> start audit.d service.
> 
> Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent
> 
> Thanks
> Prashanth
> 09985622656
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Richard Vickery 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the double-posting:
> 
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can 
> someone give me a shortened, simplistic
> version for stupid people (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade 
> command?
> 
> Sincerely,
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Re: undo rm -rf *

[Bill Oliver]

Cool. I'd never heard of it.

billo

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, Rick Walker wrote:




I'm not a fan of trash directories.  They give you a second chance, but
you may end up not really deleting things you wanted to delete.  What
about a simple script something like this?


If you want something a bit more polished, you might check out
"nrm", available  at http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/nrm.html

It's a C program written to have the same arguments, return codes and
side effects as /bin/rm to the extent possible.

It moves files into the hidden sub-directory ".gone" instead of removing
files.  You can remove files with "-s" and you get sequenced backups -
all files are saved with a time-stamp suffix for fine grained file
restores.  There is a program "urm" to unremove the file, but most users
just do "ls .gone" to see what they've recently removed and then just
"mv" it back to their working directory.

There is an associated cron job that runs every day to permanently
remove all deleted files that are older than a configurable age.
The default is 3 days so you can get things back on Monday that you nuked
on Friday.

It's been running on HP-UX since about 1987, and on linux since 1997.
I'd consider it pretty solid at this point.

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Fwd: ssh connection error

[Prashanth Kasula]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Prashanth Kasula 
Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: ssh connection error
To: Community support for Fedora users 
Cc: users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org




On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Prashanth Kasula  wrote:

> Dear  All,
>
> I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to
> start audit.d service.
>
> Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent
>
> Thanks
> Prashanth
> 09985622656
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Richard Vickery <
> richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the double-posting:
>>
>> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can
>> someone give me a shortened, simplistic version for stupid people (ie:
>> myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Richard
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Re: yum upgrade

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:02:00 +0530, Prashanth Kasula wrote:

> Dear  All,
> 
> I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to
> start audit.d service.
> 
> Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent

Fedora 16 reached End of Life on 2013-02-12:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-February/003144.html

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Re: ssh connection error

[Prashanth Kasula]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Prashanth Kasula  wrote:

> Dear  All,
>
> I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to
> start audit.d service.
>
> Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent
>
> Thanks
> Prashanth
> 09985622656
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Richard Vickery <
> richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the double-posting:
>>
>> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can
>> someone give me a shortened, simplistic version for stupid people (ie:
>> myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
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Re: yum upgrade

[Prashanth Kasula]

Dear  All,

I am facing issues with Linux Fedora 16 in case of ssh service, unable to
start audit.d service.

Please help me in this regart it is a live server very urgent

Thanks
Prashanth
09985622656

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Richard Vickery <
richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the double-posting:
>
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can someone
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> how to use the yum-upgrade command?
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Re: yum upgrade

[Eddie O'Connor]

I see.well what about if I wanted to create some form of script or file
that would automate as MUCH of it as possible? In other words I would
download the fedup tool..and then somehow"add" my custom command to
make it less reliant on my input, (auto-partition, auto formatting, etc.)
I'm assuming I'd have to use some programming language that could do
that.and bear in mindI'm just "thiniing out loud"...not refuting
you on any of the facts you've stated or points you've made...


EGO II

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

> the yum-dist-upgrade is NOT for beginners and if
> you read the wiki-page you see that there are
> often enough steps you CAN NOT automate
>
> UsrMove as example
>
> and the people who use yum for dist-upgrades are using
> it BECAUSE it is not a automated blackbox
>
> Am 28.03.2013 11:59, schrieb eoconno...@gmail.com:
> > I wonder if they'll ever automate the upgrade process? to make it
> easier to go from one version to the
> > next? seems like it would help make the process smoother for
> newbies
> >
> > - Reply message -
> > From: "Reindl Harald" 
> > To: 
> > Subject: yum upgrade
> > Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:18 am
> >
> >
> > Am 28.03.2013 05:09, schrieb Richard Vickery:
> >> Sorry for the double-posting:
> >>
> >> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can
> someone give me a shortened, simplistic version
> >> for stupid people (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?
> >
> > there is no simplistic way for
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
> >
> > if you do not understand this steps you need to read manuals
> > or avoid a dist-upgrade with yum at all
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Re: yum upgrade

[Reindl Harald]

the yum-dist-upgrade is NOT for beginners and if
you read the wiki-page you see that there are
often enough steps you CAN NOT automate

UsrMove as example

and the people who use yum for dist-upgrades are using
it BECAUSE it is not a automated blackbox

Am 28.03.2013 11:59, schrieb eoconno...@gmail.com:
> I wonder if they'll ever automate the upgrade process? to make it easier 
> to go from one version to the
> next? seems like it would help make the process smoother for newbies
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Reindl Harald" 
> To: 
> Subject: yum upgrade
> Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:18 am
> 
> 
> Am 28.03.2013 05:09, schrieb Richard Vickery:
>> Sorry for the double-posting:
>>
>> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can someone 
>> give me a shortened, simplistic version
>> for stupid people (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?
> 
> there is no simplistic way for
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
> 
> if you do not understand this steps you need to read manuals
> or avoid a dist-upgrade with yum at all



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Re: yum upgrade

[eoconno...@gmail.com]

I wonder if they'll ever automate the upgrade process? to make it easier to 
go from one version to the next? seems like it would help make the process 
smoother for newbies

Sent from Eddie's Cell Phone

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Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:18 am


Am 28.03.2013 05:09, schrieb Richard Vickery:
> Sorry for the double-posting:
> 
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can someone 
> give me a shortened, simplistic version
> for stupid people (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?

there is no simplistic way for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum

if you do not understand this steps you need to read manuals
or avoid a dist-upgrade with yum at all

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Re: yum upgrade

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.03.2013 05:09, schrieb Richard Vickery:
> Sorry for the double-posting:
> 
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can someone 
> give me a shortened, simplistic version
> for stupid people (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?

there is no simplistic way for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum

if you do not understand this steps you need to read manuals
or avoid a dist-upgrade with yum at all



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Re: yum upgrade

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/28/13 12:09, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can someone 
> give me a shortened, simplistic version for stupid people (ie: myself) of how 
> to use the yum-upgrade command?


Is this the page that confused you?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum



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Re: yum upgrade

[Frank Murphy]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:09:24 -0700
Richard Vickery  wrote:

> Sorry for the double-posting:
> 
> I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can
> someone give me a shortened, simplistic version for stupid people
> (ie: myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Richard

It's the same as yum update but:
man yum
"upgrade
 Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes
flag set. See update for more details."

iirc it check for packages that have been replaced by
another package in the fedora repos
example oldsweetjam.rpm replaced by  healthyoptionjam.rpm

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Re: yum upgrade

[Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.]

On 03/28/2013 12:09 AM, Richard Vickery wrote:

Sorry for the double-posting:

I've been to the fedora-upgrade (wiki) sites and got confused. Can 
someone give me a shortened, simplistic version for stupid people (ie: 
myself) of how to use the yum-upgrade command?


Sincerely,

Richard




If you're upgrading your system I believe you have to use the "fedup" 
option.not quite sure tho'



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Re: undo rm -rf *

[Celik]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Rick Walker  wrote:

>
> > > I'm not a fan of trash directories.  They give you a second chance, but
> > > you may end up not really deleting things you wanted to delete.  What
> > > about a simple script something like this?
>
> If you want something a bit more polished, you might check out
> "nrm", available  at http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/nrm.html
>
>
Thank you :)



> It's a C program written to have the same arguments, return codes and
> side effects as /bin/rm to the extent possible.
>
> It moves files into the hidden sub-directory ".gone" instead of removing
> files.  You can remove files with "-s" and you get sequenced backups -
> all files are saved with a time-stamp suffix for fine grained file
> restores.  There is a program "urm" to unremove the file, but most users
> just do "ls .gone" to see what they've recently removed and then just
> "mv" it back to their working directory.
>
> There is an associated cron job that runs every day to permanently
> remove all deleted files that are older than a configurable age.
> The default is 3 days so you can get things back on Monday that you nuked
> on Friday.
>
> It's been running on HP-UX since about 1987, and on linux since 1997.
> I'd consider it pretty solid at this point.
>
> kind regards,
> --
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>
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