Re: systemd - partytime

2013-04-29 Thread poma
On 29.04.2013 16:10, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 29.04.2013 15:55, schrieb poma:
>> Yippie ki-yay!
>>
>> journalctl | grep systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer | wc -l
>> 2750 :)
>>
>> systemd 197
>> +PAM +LIBWRAP +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ
> 
> fixed with systemd 201
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=925916
> 
> [harry@rh:~]$ rpm -q systemd
> systemd-201-2.fc18.5.x86_64

Jolly good, I say. :)


poma


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Re: announcing paste.fedoraproject.org

2013-04-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:27:52 +0800
Ed Greshko  wrote:

> Nice to know.  
> 
> I hardly ever use fpaste, but decided to try it today since the
> change was made.  So, I simply used the first example in the man
> page
> 
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ ifconfig | fpaste -d "Test"
> Uploading (1.1KiB)...
> Traceback (most recent call last):

...snip...

> This seems to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888433
> reported in December of last year with no action taken.
> 
> :-(

Figures. :( I made one minor change to the server this afternoon and it
broke things. Right before it was announced. 

it's been reverted and the above example should work fine again. 

Sorry for the trouble.

kevin


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Re: announcing paste.fedoraproject.org

2013-04-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/30/13 06:57, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings. 
>
> I'm happy to announce that our sticky-notes pastebin service is fully
> live and in service for any of your Fedora Project related pastebin
> needs. 
>

Nice to know.  

I hardly ever use fpaste, but decided to try it today since the change was 
made.  So, I simply used the first example in the man page

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ifconfig | fpaste -d "Test"
Uploading (1.1KiB)...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/fpaste", line 447, in 
main()
  File "/usr/bin/fpaste", line 414, in main
[url, short_url] = paste(text, options)
  File "/usr/bin/fpaste", line 127, in paste
response = json.loads(f.read())
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 326, in loads
return _default_decoder.decode(s)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 366, in decode
obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end())
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 384, in raw_decode
raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded")
ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded


This seems to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888433 reported in 
December of last year with no action taken.

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Re: Where is my Vbetool?

2013-04-29 Thread g


hello jean.

On 04/29/2013 02:20 PM, Jean François Martinez wrote:

Is there in F18 a successor to Vbetool?  Its usefulness went far beyond
setting the video at boot time.

In sevaerl occassions I hacve had to kill X but this  leaves the video card
in a bad state and I can no longer have a text display until I reboot.

In F17 vbetool could be used for resetting the video card to a sane state.
Now I am forced to reboot.




Unless there is a better successor vbetool should be reintroduced in
Fedora.


this is true.

if nothing else is submitted, get codes from oem of card.

put reset sequence in a file, then a shell script file with;

   cat "reset-sequence-fn" > /dev/vga

never know.

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Re: F17 recalcitrant X server

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/29/2013 01:28 PM, Beartooth wrote:

No. Not as my userid, nor as hers, nor as root; not on her
keyboard, and not from mine over ssh.


You need to change to a different TTY first, then log in.  Do you mean 
that you can't get to a login prompt, or that you can't log in once you 
do?  (I'm not nitpicking here; I may not know how to fix this, but I do 
know that the two possibilities probably imply different things.)

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Re: Problem with external VGA

2013-04-29 Thread John Pilkington

On 29/04/13 19:39, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote:



From: John Pilkington [j.p...@tesco.net]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 08:16
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Problem with external VGA

On 29/04/13 12:48, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote:

I've got a Dell Precision M4600 laptop, running Fedora 17.  Sometime
after kernel 3.7.9-104, the external VGA output no longer works.

If I boot with 3.7.9-104,with my projector attached, it is recognized.
If I boot with 3.8.4-102, external VGA devices are not recognized.

lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro
1000M] (rev a1)

(I've tried running the driver from nVidia, but that has screen
rendering problems, with blocks of random data instead of my normal
background pic)

- Jon



/var/log/Xorg.0.log ought to show what's happening.  Or 0 ... to 9.

'the driver from nvidia'?  Which one? but perhaps you want to run nouveau?

--

The Xorg logs from the 3.7.9-104 kernel clearly show that the VGA is detected:
[48.288] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA-1
[48.288] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 connected

The Xorg logs from the 3.8.3-103 (and newer 3.8.4-102) kernels, show the driver 
believes the VGA is not connected:
[46.357] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 disconnected

Starting to look like the driver was changed between 3.7  and 3.8 kernels?

- Jon


I'm afraid this device is outside my comfort zone.  nVidia say their 
310.44 driver supports the Quadro 1000M, but I don't see packages for 
that on the rpmfusion site.  304.88, which is there, is claimed to 
support it too.   Don't know nouveau.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.44-driver.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.88-driver.html

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/testing/17/x86_64/kmod-nvidia-3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64-304.88-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm

HTH

John P


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Re: F17 recalcitrant X server

2013-04-29 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:35:02 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

> On 04/28/2013 01:15 PM, Beartooth wrote:
>>  Can anybody spare me a clue?
> 
> I think you have to be in what used to be called runlevel three for
> that.  AFAIK the old commands still work, even though they just call the
> new systemctl versions.  Also, when you get the DSOD can you switch to a
> different TTY with ^ALT-F2?

No. Not as my userid, nor as hers, nor as root; not on her 
keyboard, and not from mine over ssh.

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Where is my Vbetool?

2013-04-29 Thread Jean François Martinez
Is there in F18 a successor to Vbetool?  Its usefulness went far beyond setting 
the video at boot time.

In sevaerl occassions I hacve had to kill X but this  leaves the video card in
a bad state and I can no longer have a text display until I reboot.

In F17 vbetool could be used for resetting the video card to a sane state.  Now 
I am forced to reboot.

Unless there is a better successor vbetool should be reintroduced in Fedora.



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RE: Problem with external VGA

2013-04-29 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)


From: John Pilkington [j.p...@tesco.net]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 08:16
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Problem with external VGA

On 29/04/13 12:48, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote:
> I've got a Dell Precision M4600 laptop, running Fedora 17.  Sometime
> after kernel 3.7.9-104, the external VGA output no longer works.
>
> If I boot with 3.7.9-104,with my projector attached, it is recognized.
> If I boot with 3.8.4-102, external VGA devices are not recognized.
>
> lspci:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro
> 1000M] (rev a1)
>
> (I've tried running the driver from nVidia, but that has screen
> rendering problems, with blocks of random data instead of my normal
> background pic)
>
> - Jon
>
>
/var/log/Xorg.0.log ought to show what's happening.  Or 0 ... to 9.

'the driver from nvidia'?  Which one? but perhaps you want to run nouveau?

--

The Xorg logs from the 3.7.9-104 kernel clearly show that the VGA is detected:
[48.288] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA-1
[48.288] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 connected

The Xorg logs from the 3.8.3-103 (and newer 3.8.4-102) kernels, show the driver 
believes the VGA is not connected:
[46.357] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 disconnected

Starting to look like the driver was changed between 3.7  and 3.8 kernels?

- Jon


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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread DJ Delorie

Joe Wulf  writes:
> By chance, do you use two of these... side-by-side?

Er, I have four monitors, side-by-side, which combined are that
resolution.  The largest single monitor is 2560x1600.
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RE: Problem with external VGA

2013-04-29 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)


From: John Pilkington [j.p...@tesco.net]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 08:16
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Problem with external VGA

On 29/04/13 12:48, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote:
> I've got a Dell Precision M4600 laptop, running Fedora 17.  Sometime
> after kernel 3.7.9-104, the external VGA output no longer works.
>
> If I boot with 3.7.9-104,with my projector attached, it is recognized.
> If I boot with 3.8.4-102, external VGA devices are not recognized.
>
> lspci:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro
> 1000M] (rev a1)
>
> (I've tried running the driver from nVidia, but that has screen
> rendering problems, with blocks of random data instead of my normal
> background pic)
>
> - Jon
>
>
/var/log/Xorg.0.log ought to show what's happening.  Or 0 ... to 9.

'the driver from nvidia'?  Which one? but perhaps you want to run nouveau?



I am running the 'nouveau' driver that comes with Fedora 17.

I was commenting that the driver from nVidia, either from their site, or from 
the rpmfusion site are worse. I know others report that those drivers work 
better for them, but in my case the nouveau driver has worked better until this 
recent issue.

I'll get back to you on the log files, I need to regenerate the cases with the 
projector attached.

- Jon




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Re: Minor printing issue

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/29/2013 05:00 AM, Tim wrote:

I've certainly come across PDF files that some programs couldn't handle
in one way or another (on-screen and/or print), yet others could.  You
hadn't mentioned whether all PDF files failed, or just some.


All pdf files fail under evince.
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Wulf
By chance, do you use two of these... side-by-side?




>
> From: DJ Delorie 
>To: Community support for Fedora users  
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:40 PM
>Subject: Re: 3840x2160 resolution?
> 
>
>$ xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
>  dimensions:    6880x1600 pixels (1818x423 millimeters)
>
>That's four monitors on an ATI Radeon HD 6870 card, with proprietary
>drivers.
>
>Note: my solution to the widescreen monitor problem is to rotate them,
>making them tallscreen monitors instead.
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Steve Underwood

On 04/30/2013 12:28 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Wulf wrote:


P.S.  So, you are saying the $5,800.00 price tag is a tad on the high side?
 http://www.provantage.com/sharp-pn-k321~7SHRL04F.htm
 Sadly their 'specs' do not identify useful details.

Ah, but shopblt has it for "only" $4,633.14, a bargin!
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=01100100U0120_BRB3775P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!

It took a while (can't find it on sharp's web site), but
I did finally find an online forum somewhere with folks
talking about the monitor where someone posted a link
to the manual pdf file (where the info about it looking
like two displays comes from).
The Viewsonic one is due out soon, and I'm sure they'll undercut Sharp 
by at least 10 bucks.


Steve
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Re: Unrelieved black popups and message boxes [SOLVED?]

2013-04-29 Thread Rick Stevens

On 04/29/2013 06:27 AM, Temlakos issued this missive:



Remember that problem I had, with unrelieved black in pop-up windows or
un-minimized applications?

Well, if you remember: on Saturday, April 27, the kernel development
team pushed a new version of the kernel at that time. They've pushed one
since then, so I am using version 3.8.9.200.

Since the version immediately before that, I have not had one single
problem with pop-up windows going black (or with KDE windows going
transparent, which was a change in KDE's behavior from all-black to
transparent several months ago).

This convinces me that the kernel, or any of a number of packages that
accompany it, was at fault--and somewhere in the development process,
something the kernel development team did for the last version before
the current one, solved the problem with unrelieved black windows when
running on Intel processors.

Naturally if this happens again, I'll be back. But now I know where to
file the bug against: the kernel, or one of its associated packages.


Probably associated with the video driver kmod. I don't recall which
card you use and if you used noveau or whatever, but that's the likely
candidate.
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread DJ Delorie

$ xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
  dimensions:6880x1600 pixels (1818x423 millimeters)

That's four monitors on an ATI Radeon HD 6870 card, with proprietary
drivers.

Note: my solution to the widescreen monitor problem is to rotate them,
making them tallscreen monitors instead.
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Wulf wrote:

> P.S.  So, you are saying the $5,800.00 price tag is a tad on the high side?
>     http://www.provantage.com/sharp-pn-k321~7SHRL04F.htm
>     Sadly their 'specs' do not identify useful details.

Ah, but shopblt has it for "only" $4,633.14, a bargin!
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=01100100U0120_BRB3775P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!

It took a while (can't find it on sharp's web site), but
I did finally find an online forum somewhere with folks
talking about the monitor where someone posted a link
to the manual pdf file (where the info about it looking
like two displays comes from).
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 04/29/2013 09:23 AM, Tethys wrote:
> I can't imagine why! 16:9 is pretty much the worst of the common
> monitor aspect ratios. It's a shame it's also the one that seems to be
> becoming most widespread.

I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment, but I'm willing to (someday)
give very large, very high definition 16x9 displays a chance.  My
thinking is that a single 16x9 display of this sort can potentially
replace 2 side-by-side displays.  (I.e. you're effectively going from
32x10 to 16x9.)

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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Lists

On 04/29/2013 04:23 PM, Tethys wrote:

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:


It is configured to be a usable 16:9 aspect ratio.  Very pleased to see
that.


I can't imagine why! 16:9 is pretty much the worst of the common
monitor aspect ratios. It's a shame it's also the one that seems to be
becoming most widespread.


Agree, I would much rather see 16:10.

Regards,
Patrick


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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Laing, Robin
On 2013-04-29 08:23, Tethys wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:
>
>> It is configured to be a usable 16:9 aspect ratio.  Very pleased to see
>> that.
>
> I can't imagine why! 16:9 is pretty much the worst of the common
> monitor aspect ratios. It's a shame it's also the one that seems to be
> becoming most widespread.
>
> Tet
>
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>

It would depend on what you are using it for.

I find that it can be useful having multiple windows open side by side 
for work.  I have become more productive with a 16:9 display compared to 
my 4:3 display.

My 5 cents worth.

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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Tethys
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Joe Wulf  wrote:

> It is configured to be a usable 16:9 aspect ratio.  Very pleased to see
> that.

I can't imagine why! 16:9 is pretty much the worst of the common
monitor aspect ratios. It's a shame it's also the one that seems to be
becoming most widespread.

Tet

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Re: systemd - partytime

2013-04-29 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 29.04.2013 15:55, schrieb poma:
> Yippie ki-yay!
> 
> journalctl | grep systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer | wc -l
> 2750 :)
> 
> systemd 197
> +PAM +LIBWRAP +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ

fixed with systemd 201
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=925916

[harry@rh:~]$ rpm -q systemd
systemd-201-2.fc18.5.x86_64



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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Wulf
Interesting and impressive.
A 32" LCD on the desktop does seem a bit much in size and scope.
It is configured to be a usable 16:9 aspect ratio.  Very pleased to see that.


This has been an excellent site I refer to when monitor shopping:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution
They tend to have a clue about practical sizes and their impacts.

So the one you are referring to is listed as a QFHD... very high quality 
resolution.


P.S.  So, you are saying the $5,800.00 price tag is a tad on the high side?
    http://www.provantage.com/sharp-pn-k321~7SHRL04F.htm
    Sadly their 'specs' do not identify useful details.




>
> From: Tom Horsley 
>To: Community support for Fedora users  
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM
>Subject: 3840x2160 resolution?
> 
>
>I am fascinated by the idea of having a Sharp PN-K321 monitor
>(but it will remain a fantasy till the price gets much lower :-).
>
>Out of curiosity though, I'm wondering if anyone out there
>in fedora-land has run a display at 3840x2160 and if so
>what video card and/or cards you used (and if open source
>drivers worked)?
>
>The manual for the sharp makes it seem a bit weird. You
>apparently have to run it as though it is two separate
>1920x2160 displays - they just happen to exist right next
>to each other with no bezel separating them.
>
>Looking on newegg.com I find a few cards that claim to
>support 3840x2160, but it isn't clear if they can act
>like a dual display.
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systemd - partytime

2013-04-29 Thread poma

Yippie ki-yay!

journalctl | grep systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer | wc -l
2750 :)

systemd 197
+PAM +LIBWRAP +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ


poma

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Re: Unrelieved black popups and message boxes [SOLVED?]

2013-04-29 Thread Temlakos

On 03/20/2013 10:21 AM, Lailah wrote:


El lun, 18-03-2013 a las 17:18 -0400, Temlakos escribió:




Hello!

Sorry for my lateness but I was making some experiments 
with KDE.  It happens to me too, after 2 or 3 hours of use.  Not 
only pop ups pr message boxes are black, but every window.  Plasma 
and wallpaper are fine.
I'm using KDE 4.9,  Fedora 18 64-bits,  and as somebody say, may be 
it is related with Intel chipset, because my netbook is an Intel one.


Is there a bug filed for this issue?


/Cheers, thanks/
*/Lailah/*





I wouldn't know where to file the bug, or against what.

Temlakos


I guess it is in Fedora Bugs or in KDE Bugzilla.  Against KDE Desktop 
or Plasma.


If I'm wrong, somebody can correct me.


/Regards,/
*/Lailah/*






Remember that problem I had, with unrelieved black in pop-up windows or 
un-minimized applications?


Well, if you remember: on Saturday, April 27, the kernel development 
team pushed a new version of the kernel at that time. They've pushed one 
since then, so I am using version 3.8.9.200.


Since the version immediately before that, I have not had one single 
problem with pop-up windows going black (or with KDE windows going 
transparent, which was a change in KDE's behavior from all-black to 
transparent several months ago).


This convinces me that the kernel, or any of a number of packages that 
accompany it, was at fault--and somewhere in the development process, 
something the kernel development team did for the last version before 
the current one, solved the problem with unrelieved black windows when 
running on Intel processors.


Naturally if this happens again, I'll be back. But now I know where to 
file the bug against: the kernel, or one of its associated packages.


Temlakos
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Re: 3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Tethys
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Out of curiosity though, I'm wondering if anyone out there
> in fedora-land has run a display at 3840x2160 and if so
> what video card and/or cards you used (and if open source
> drivers worked)?

Not precisely those resolutions, but not far off:

mrburns:~% xdpyinfo | fgrep dimensions
  dimensions:3520x1200 pixels (931x317 millimeters)
  dimensions:3584x1440 pixels (948x381 millimeters)

mrburns:~% lspci | fgrep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce
GTX 285] (rev a1)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce
210] (rev a2)

That's using the nouveau drivers. I can say that I'd avoid nvidia
cards if at all possible. They've caused me no end of trouble on this
machine, and I've had much better success with ATI cards.

Tet

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3840x2160 resolution?

2013-04-29 Thread Tom Horsley
I am fascinated by the idea of having a Sharp PN-K321 monitor
(but it will remain a fantasy till the price gets much lower :-).

Out of curiosity though, I'm wondering if anyone out there
in fedora-land has run a display at 3840x2160 and if so
what video card and/or cards you used (and if open source
drivers worked)?

The manual for the sharp makes it seem a bit weird. You
apparently have to run it as though it is two separate
1920x2160 displays - they just happen to exist right next
to each other with no bezel separating them.

Looking on newegg.com I find a few cards that claim to
support 3840x2160, but it isn't clear if they can act
like a dual display.
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Re: Problem with external VGA

2013-04-29 Thread John Pilkington

On 29/04/13 12:48, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote:

I've got a Dell Precision M4600 laptop, running Fedora 17.  Sometime
after kernel 3.7.9-104, the external VGA output no longer works.

If I boot with 3.7.9-104,with my projector attached, it is recognized.
If I boot with 3.8.4-102, external VGA devices are not recognized.

lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro
1000M] (rev a1)

(I've tried running the driver from nVidia, but that has screen
rendering problems, with blocks of random data instead of my normal
background pic)

- Jon



/var/log/Xorg.0.log ought to show what's happening.  Or 0 ... to 9.

'the driver from nvidia'?  Which one? but perhaps you want to run nouveau?

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Re: Minor printing issue

2013-04-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent:
> I've now installed xpdf, and it printed.  Not quite correctly, because
> it cut the bottom off, but it did print.  Presumably, there's
> something wrong with evince, which is what I was using before.  (I
> suspect that the file I was working with wasn't designed with 8.5X11
> in mind and xpdf wasn't able to compensate.) 

I've certainly come across PDF files that some programs couldn't handle
in one way or another (on-screen and/or print), yet others could.  You
hadn't mentioned whether all PDF files failed, or just some.

And, perhaps related, anytime I have to print a US-letter formatted page
on my A4-only printer, I go through a lot of grief.  My ye olde HP
Laserjet 4, wants me to insert paper that I don't have (with a load
letter warning on its display), instead of something letting me squeeze
the page in to fit.  So, is the PDF page size compatible with your
printer's paper size?

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Problem with external VGA

2013-04-29 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)
I've got a Dell Precision M4600 laptop, running Fedora 17.  Sometime after 
kernel 3.7.9-104, the external VGA output no longer works.

If I boot with 3.7.9-104,with my projector attached, it is recognized.  If I 
boot with 3.8.4-102, external VGA devices are not recognized.

lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [Quadro 1000M] (rev 
a1)

(I've tried running the driver from nVidia, but that has screen rendering 
problems, with blocks of random data instead of my normal background pic)

- Jon
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Re: learning systemd: disable a "service" + create one to replace it

2013-04-29 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 29.04.2013 11:22, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby:
> Hi all,
> 
> Configuration: F17 LXDE spin.
> 
> I would like to
> 1°) disable LXDM launch
> 2°) launch a custom script i the place of it
> 
> The custom script is just a one-liner:
>   /usr/bin/X :1 -query my.session.server
> 
> # chkconfig --list:
> livesys0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
> livesys-late   0:off1:off2:off3:on4:on5:on6:off
> netconsole 0:off1:off2:off3:off4:off5:off6:off
> network0:off1:off2:off3:off4:off5:off6:off
> spice-vdagentd 0:off1:off2:off3:off4:off5:on6:off
> 
> => I see no mention of "lxdm".
> 
> I also tried:
> # find / -type f -name '*.service'
> 
> => No mention of "lxdm"
> 
> 1°) Where to find it, in order to disable it?

in F17 you have "prefdm.service"

/usr/lib/systemd/system/prefdm.service
/etc/X11/prefdm

the "kdm.service" and lookalikes are introduced with F18



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learning systemd: disable a "service" + create one to replace it

2013-04-29 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

Hi all,

Configuration: F17 LXDE spin.

I would like to
1°) disable LXDM launch
2°) launch a custom script i the place of it

The custom script is just a one-liner:
  /usr/bin/X :1 -query my.session.server

# chkconfig --list:
livesys 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
livesys-late0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
netconsole  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
network 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
spice-vdagentd  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:on6:off

=> I see no mention of "lxdm".

I also tried:
# find / -type f -name '*.service'

=> No mention of "lxdm".


1°) Where to find it, in order to disable it?
2°) Would you know a ressource if I want to make my custom script to be 
integrated to the systemd stuff, where to find how? 
https://www.google.com/search?q=custom+systemd+script is a bit messy...


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Re: Minor printing issue

2013-04-29 Thread poma
On 29.04.2013 09:04, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/28/2013 08:57 PM, poma wrote:
>> You don't care, yet you mention it. :)
>> Outstanding.
> 
> Yes, I mentioned it so that people wouldn't waste time suggesting that I
> go get the drivers from the Canon website.  I thought it would save
> time.  Instead, we're wasting even more time discussing why I mentioned it.

:)

poma


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Re: F17 LXDE spin: replace *DM systemd script for XDMCP

2013-04-29 Thread poma
On 29.04.2013 07:08, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have installed several F17 desktop with LXDE spin.
> It's OK.
> 
> Now I have a F18 "server" (on a 1U racked server), where I enabled XDMCP.
> 
> I want the F17 desktops to be the X clients of the server, in a simple
> way (users are not geeks). To achieve this,
> - I want the LXDM not to start (well "chkconfig lxdm off")
> - I want the F17 desktops to replace LXDM starting by the connection to
> the X server
> -- Custom init file? (tutorial?)
> 
> How would you advice to do?
> 
> I dont want to use FreeNX nor XNest nor VNC, but full XDMCP.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 

Server:
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[XDMCPServer]
enabled=true

Check iptables/firewalld
xdmcp 177/udp

systemctl stop lxdm.service
systemctl disable lxdm.service
systemctl enable lightdm.service
systemctl start lightdm.service

Client(s):
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[SeatDefaults]
xdmcp-manager=server/ip/name

nmap -sU -p 177 server/ip/name

There are bugs & shortcomings.
I leave you the rest of the setup. ;)


poma


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LightDM :)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LightDM
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/lightdm
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867924

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Re: Minor printing issue

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/28/2013 08:57 PM, poma wrote:

You don't care, yet you mention it. :)
Outstanding.


Yes, I mentioned it so that people wouldn't waste time suggesting that I 
go get the drivers from the Canon website.  I thought it would save 
time.  Instead, we're wasting even more time discussing why I mentioned it.

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