Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread poma
On 25.06.2013 00:14, Arthur Dent wrote:
…
> # rpm -q kernel
> package kernel is not installed
> 
> ll /boot
> total 76176
…

OK, nice.
For F17 try this one,
rpm -qa kernel*

We can manually set the existing kernels via grubby or automatically
with rpm/yum install.
Pick one.
I'll leave you with Joe if you don't mind, it's beauty sleep time. :)


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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 24.06.2013 18:25, schrieb Frank Murphy:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 00:03:19 +0200
> Reindl Harald  wrote:
> 
>> Am 23.06.2013 20:43, schrieb poma:
>>> On 23.06.2013 20:16, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>>
 Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other
 kernels are in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when
 advanced options is picked. It only displays the one kernel.
>>>
>>> Simplify,
>>> /etc/default/grub
>>> GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"
>>> GRUB_TERMINAL="console"
>>
>> did you only read about "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true" or have
>> you tested it as well?
> 
> He forgot the version:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908528
> Fixed In Version: grub2-2.00-16

well, that may be a different story, this build is still
not on the mirrors, looked minutes ago and updates-testing
is always enabled here

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q grub2
grub2-2.00-15.fc18.x86_64




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Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.06.2013 00:14, schrieb Arthur Dent:
> On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 00:06 +0200, poma wrote:
>> On 24.06.2013 22:35, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> …
>>
>>> What did I do wrong - and how do I get it to default to my working
>>> kernel?
>> …
>>
>> rpm -q kernel
>> ll /boot
> 
> # rpm -q kernel
> package kernel is not installed

so what about "yum install kernel"?
you should get the last recent which should be 3.9.5
and grubby usually add it to the grub-menu

rpm -q kernel
kernel-3.9.5-101.fc17.x86_64



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Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread Joe Zeff

On 06/24/2013 03:14 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:

-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  4914208 Jan 18 17:51 vmlinuz-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686.PAE


yum remove kernel-3.7.3-101
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Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread Joe Zeff

On 06/24/2013 01:35 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:

What did I do wrong - and how do I get it to default to my working
kernel?


My suggestion is to uninstall the bad kernel and then update.
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Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 00:06 +0200, poma wrote:
> On 24.06.2013 22:35, Arthur Dent wrote:
> …
> 
> > What did I do wrong - and how do I get it to default to my working
> > kernel?
> …
> 
> rpm -q kernel
> ll /boot

# rpm -q kernel
package kernel is not installed

ll /boot
total 76176
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   123505 Dec 11  2012 config-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   123504 Nov 27  2012 config-3.6.8-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   124296 Jan 18 17:51 config-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   124285 Feb 18 22:54 config-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686.PAE
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Mar  2 00:11 grub
drwxr-xr-x. 6 root root 4096 Jun 24 21:09 grub2
-rw---. 1 root root 16601756 Jan  1 17:30 
initramfs-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686.PAE.img
-rw---. 1 root root 16562865 Dec  1  2012 
initramfs-3.6.8-2.fc17.i686.PAE.img
-rw---. 1 root root 16788458 Jan 31 21:03 
initramfs-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686.PAE.img
-rw---. 1 root root  1987023 Dec 11  2012 System.map-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw---. 1 root root  1986805 Nov 27  2012 System.map-3.6.8-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw---. 1 root root  1994539 Jan 18 17:51 System.map-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686.PAE
-rw---. 1 root root  1993318 Feb 18 22:54 System.map-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  4868560 Dec 11  2012 vmlinuz-3.6.10-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  4868688 Nov 27  2012 vmlinuz-3.6.8-2.fc17.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  4914208 Jan 18 17:51 vmlinuz-3.7.3-101.fc17.i686.PAE
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  4901696 Feb 18 22:54 vmlinuz-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686.PAE





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Re: Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread poma
On 24.06.2013 22:35, Arthur Dent wrote:
…

> What did I do wrong - and how do I get it to default to my working
> kernel?
…

rpm -q kernel
ll /boot


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Messed up Grub!

2013-06-24 Thread Arthur Dent
Hello All,

I can't update my Fedora 17 box until sometime in July due to issues I
won't bore you with.

In the meantime I have another problem. Some time ago I had a crash
during a yum update, the net result of which was the fact that the
kernel it was installing at the time became corrupted (amongst other
problems). I can boot into the previous kernel and everything works
fine, except when I reboot. Naturally it wants to boot into the "latest"
kernel.

I have set the grub timeout to 5 seconds so I can select the older
kernel and all is well.

However, I thought I would be clever and set it to automatically boot to
the second kernel, so I edited /etc/default/grub and changed
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved to GRUB_DEFAULT=1.

I then ran grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and rebooted. Now I
appear to have lost my earlier kernel options and it boots into the
corrupted version.

[edit] No wait - It seems I have to go into "advanced" options from grub
where I can pick the older kernel [/edit]

What did I do wrong - and how do I get it to default to my working
kernel?

Thanks

Mark

=8<===
cat /etc/default/grub 
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="Fedora"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
#GRUB_DEFAULT=2
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True  KEYTABLE=uk
rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet"
#GRUB_THEME="/boot/grub2/themes/system/theme.txt"
=8<===


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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Frank McCormick

On 06/23/2013 06:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 23.06.2013 20:43, schrieb poma:

On 23.06.2013 20:16, Frank McCormick wrote:


 Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other kernels are
in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when advanced options
is picked. It only displays the one kernel.

Simplify,
/etc/default/grub
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"
GRUB_TERMINAL="console"

did you only read about "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true" or have
you tested it as well?

if you would have tested it you would know that grub2-mkconfig still
results in the cluttered "submenu 'Advanced options for Fedora'"





   Read about it and tested it. The sub-menu in my version of Grub is 
always there.




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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread poma
On 06/24/2013 06:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

> He forgot the version:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908528
> Fixed In Version: grub2-2.00-16

Who's forgotten and what's forgotten!? :)
Although your namesake mentions F17/18/19, he actually
alludes to the F19 - grub2-2.00-22.fc19 that already has that option.
Regarding F18 - grub2-2.00-15.fc18, there are instructions[1]. ;)


poma


[1]
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/427268/match=grub_disable_submenu

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Re: disk size

2013-06-24 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:52:24AM +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
> How can I see the total disk size of my hard disk?
> 
> I have used the following command:
> 
> # fdisk -l | grep Disk
> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
> Disk identifier: 0x0003dd50
> Disk /dev/mapper/fedora_new--host--5-swap: 6274 MB, 6274678784 bytes,
> 12255232 sectors
> Disk /dev/mapper/fedora_new--host--5-root: 53.7 GB, 53687091200 bytes,
> 104857600 sectors
> Disk /dev/mapper/fedora_new--host--5-home: 939.7 GB, 939712839680
> bytes, 1835376640 sectors
> #
> 
> Should I conclude that the size of my hard disk is 1 TB?

The line above for the /dev/sda disk identifies the total disk size.
You're correct (modulo the usual bickering about TB vs. TiB).

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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Frank McCormick

On 06/24/2013 12:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 00:03:19 +0200
Reindl Harald  wrote:


Am 23.06.2013 20:43, schrieb poma:

On 23.06.2013 20:16, Frank McCormick wrote:


 Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other
kernels are in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when
advanced options is picked. It only displays the one kernel.

Simplify,
/etc/default/grub
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"
GRUB_TERMINAL="console"

did you only read about "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true" or have
you tested it as well?


He forgot the version:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908528
Fixed In Version: grub2-2.00-16



   I wonder because the 4th comment dated June 23rd complains it's
still not in Fedora-updates.
My version shows only V 2.00.



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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Frank McCormick

On 06/24/2013 01:10 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:16:22 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


On 06/23/2013 01:47 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Reposting on Fedora list because it's not only 19 affected


I noticed this morning that when I run grub2-mkconfig from my fedora
19 partition, or from my 18 partition
  it does not find all the kernels on a fedora 17 partition. There are
3 in Fedora 17 /boot...3.8.11, 3.8.13 and the latest
3.9.5.   It finds only the 3.8.11 kernel. Grub was installed in
/dev/sda from the 19 partition; I have since re-installed
Grub from the 18 partition and the same problem exists.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?


  Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other kernels are
in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when advanced options
is picked. It only displays the one kernel.

Be more accurate when describing what you've done. Verify that you really
run
   grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
and not use any symlink that would be replaced incorrectly.
Then, if you see all the kernels in that grub.cfg, figure out whether
they are visible in the top menu. Perhaps upload that grub.cfg to fpaste.
Of course, you need to be sure that it's the file that GRUB loads, so
insert something that would be displayed at boot-time, and verify it's
the file.



   The first line of my post says ..."when I run grub2-mkconfig from my 
Fedora 19 partition"...


   No symlinks are involved.

   Taking Pomas suggestion I simplified my /etc/default/grub.cfg to the 
bare minimums and
in this convoluted way solved my problem. But all I get now is  a bare 
bones minimum menu...but

that's OK.
I suspect as another poster suggested here there are still a few 
undocumented or badly documented

bugs/features in grub :)




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Re: Performance and the hard disk size

2013-06-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/21/2013 04:16 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Does the size of the hard disk affect Fedora's performance?
> 
> I am looking for a 2 T disk to replace my current disk, but some
> people are warning me about performance; they say I should buy a disk
> of at most 1 T. Are they correct?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul
> 
I have a 2TB disk in this system and I haven't seen any speed issues.  I
used Fedora's defaults to partition it:

$ df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs3.8G 0  3.8G   0% /dev
tmpfs   3.9G  5.9M  3.9G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs   3.9G   11M  3.9G   1% /run
tmpfs   3.9G 0  3.9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda350G  9.4G   40G  20% /
tmpfs   3.9G  872K  3.9G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda2   477M  118M  334M  27% /boot
/dev/sda1   200M  288K  200M   1% /boot/efi
/dev/sda5   1.8T  246G  1.5T  15% /home


Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 (AF)
Device Model: ST2000DM001-9YN164



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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 00:03:19 +0200
Reindl Harald  wrote:

> Am 23.06.2013 20:43, schrieb poma:
> > On 23.06.2013 20:16, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > 
> >> Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other
> >> kernels are in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when
> >> advanced options is picked. It only displays the one kernel.
> > 
> > Simplify,
> > /etc/default/grub
> > GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"
> > GRUB_TERMINAL="console"
> 
> did you only read about "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true" or have
> you tested it as well?
> 

He forgot the version:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908528
Fixed In Version: grub2-2.00-16

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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 24.06.2013 01:24, schrieb poma:
> …
> 
> Oh yeah,
> this is the only problem I've found so far, which doesn't affect
> the functioning of the grub,
> $ rpm -ql grub2-tools-2.00-22.fc19 | grep default/grub
> /etc/default/grub
> $ file /etc/sysconfig/grub
> /etc/sysconfig/grub: broken symbolic link to `/etc/default/grub'
> You can do it yourself, right. :)

is the answer to *what* context of this thread?




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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2013 20:43, schrieb poma:
> On 23.06.2013 20:16, Frank McCormick wrote:
> 
>> Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other kernels are
>> in the list. But Grub is not displaying them when advanced options
>> is picked. It only displays the one kernel.
> 
> Simplify,
> /etc/default/grub
> GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"
> GRUB_TERMINAL="console"

did you only read about "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true" or have
you tested it as well?

if you would have tested it you would know that grub2-mkconfig still
results in the cluttered "submenu 'Advanced options for Fedora'"



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Re: Broadcast RGB property and Intel video driver

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 24.06.2013 00:47, schrieb Tom Horsley:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:30:00 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
>> Just the smallest amount of googling suggests that an xorg.conf option 
>> exists for this
>>
>> Option "BROADCAST_RGB"   "0"   or   "1"
> 
> Absolutely true, and a fantastically large amount of
> googling doesn't disclose which section it is supposed to
> go in to be associated with the HDMI2 output or how
> to construct the fragment of xorg.conf that I need
> to stick in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory
> to convey it to the driver :-)

google hit #5 here:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man4/intel.4.html

SYNOPSIS

   Section "Device"
 Identifier "devname"
 Driver "intel"
 ...
   EndSection
.



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Re: SATA 6Gb/s but current 3.0 Gb/s

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 23.06.2013 23:28, schrieb Paul Smith:
> I have now a new disk running on my machine
> 
> Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Green (AF, SATA 6Gb/s)
> SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
> 
> Why is not my disk with
> 
> current: 3.0 Gb/s

because it is most liekly connected to a port which only
supports 3.0 Gb/s, on HP 8200/8300 Elite Minitowers as
example you have 4 internal SATA connectors and only two
of them are 6.0 Gb/s, two are 3.0 Gb/s and if you act
careless and connect a disk to the 5th obe which is for
the optical drive you have only 1.5 Gb/s



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Re: Performance and the hard disk size

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 23.06.2013 14:50, schrieb Tim:
>> which has nothing to do with *a disk* larger than 1 TB
>> it's more depending on the partitions you create
> 
> It has an awful lot to do with such large discs.  What's the default
> partitioning for Windows?  One partition that covers the entire drive

who cares for default partitioning on Windows?
who cares for default partitioning on Fedora?
who cares for default partitioning at all?

> And don't try to tell me otherwise.  In something like 18 years of
> observing all incarnations of Windows shooting itself in the foot

i have used windos long enough
but did "default partitioning" bother me?
no, not after the first month at all



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Re: grub2-mkconfig not picking up all kernels

2013-06-24 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 23.06.2013 20:16, schrieb Frank McCormick:
> On 06/23/2013 01:47 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>
>> Reposting on Fedora list because it's not only 19 affected
>>
>>
>> I noticed this morning that when I run grub2-mkconfig from my fedora 19 
>> partition, or from my 18 partition
>>  it does not find all the kernels on a fedora 17 partition. There are 3 in 
>> Fedora 17 /boot...3.8.11, 3.8.13 and
>> the latest
>> 3.9.5.   It finds only the 3.8.11 kernel. Grub was installed in /dev/sda 
>> from the 19 partition; I have since
>> re-installed
>> Grub from the 18 partition and the same problem exists.
>> Is this a bug or am I missing something?
>>
> 
> Further to thisI checked the grub.cfg and the other kernels are in the 
> list. But Grub is not displaying
> them when advanced options
> is picked. It only displays the one kernel

the "advanced options" idea is broken by design and only clutters the menu
the reason is to not overload noobs with options while frustrate advanced users



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Re: What about KVM VMs when Suspending?

2013-06-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 08:58:17AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> I read a bit about the difference between "Hibernate" and "Suspend".
> I use my laptop as virtualization host too, and wonder what about
> the VMs when Suspending.
> I works fairly well when no VM is launched.
> What is suposed to happen if I have KVM VMs started?

Just like any other process -- they will be suspended too.

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Re: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 fails to start after F17->F18 update

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 24 11:58, poma wrote:
> On 24.06.2013 09:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> …
> > Thanks, but... what are you trying to tell me?  I already started
> > vncserver as service along the lines of the above
> …
> 
> With aforementioned lines I completed my working setup example.
> That may be useful information for other people, too, right. ;)

Yes, indeed.


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Re: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 fails to start after F17->F18 update

2013-06-24 Thread poma
On 24.06.2013 09:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
…
> Thanks, but... what are you trying to tell me?  I already started
> vncserver as service along the lines of the above
…

With aforementioned lines I completed my working setup example.
That may be useful information for other people, too, right. ;)


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Re: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 fails to start after F17->F18 update

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 23 13:23, poma wrote:
> On 22.06.2013 16:57, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> > The same message is in the vncserver log file, btw.  I'm starting the
> > XFCE4 desktop via `exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch' and ck-launch-session
> > starts and runs.  What else can I do?!?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Corinna
> 
> - yum erase ConsoleKit*
> - rpmrebuild xfce4-session-4.10.1-1.fc18.src.rpm
>   with *systemd-logind.diff
> - $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
>   #!/bin/sh
>   startxfce4
> 
> 
> poma
> 
> 
> 

> diff --git a/xfce4-session.spec b/xfce4-session.spec
> index 66e3650..520e881 100644
> --- a/xfce4-session.spec
> +++ b/xfce4-session.spec
> @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
>  
>  Name:   xfce4-session
>  Version:4.10.1
> -Release:1%{?dist}
> +Release:2%{?dist}
>  Summary:Xfce session manager
>  
>  Group:  User Interface/Desktops
> @@ -73,8 +73,9 @@ Additional splash screen engines for the Xfce Session 
> Manager.
>  
>  %build
>  %configure \
> -%if 0%{?rhel} > 6 || 0%{?fedora} > 18
> +%if 0%{?rhel} > 6 || 0%{?fedora} >= 18
>  --enable-systemd \
> +--disable-legacy-sm \
>  %else
>  --disable-systemd \
>  %endif

This appear to work nicely, btw.


Thanks,
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Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-24 Thread lee
Joe Zeff  writes:

> On 06/22/2013 06:49 PM, lee wrote:
>> Joe Zeff  writes:
>>
>>> On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote:
 And how would I disable it?  Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md
 is still running.
>>>
>>> systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service
>>> systemctl mask SERVICENAME.service
>>
>> Thank you, that would work if there was a service called "md", but there
>> isn't.
>>
>>
>
> Try this, then:
>
> systemctl list-unit-files | grep mdmonitor
>
> When I did it, I learned that unlike you, I do have mdmonitor.service
> active.  And, a search of fedoraforum.org revealed that there's also
> mdmonitor-takeover.service which might or might not be running.  (I
> don't have it.)  And, there might be others which neither of us has
> thought of, which is why I made the grep pattern as generic as seemed
> reasonable.

Oh, interesting, thanks!  I didn't know you could do that, it gives me a
list I'll have to look at in detail.


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Re: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 fails to start after F17->F18 update

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 23 18:21, poma wrote:
> On 23.06.2013 17:01, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> …
> > Btw., just for the records, I had found an ugly workaround in the
> > meantime, but it did the trick:
> > 
> > I started startxfce4 from ~/.Xclients via `ssh localhost'.  This
> > enforced a valid session, which made polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
> > start up normally.
> …
> 
> /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@\:.service
> [Unit]
> Description=Remote desktop service (VNC)
> After=syslog.target network.target
> 
> [Service]
> Type=simple
> ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :'
> ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l  -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry
> x -fg"
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> 
> - edit and other vncserver parameters
>   appropriately
> - systemctl daemon-reload
> - systemctl enable/start vncserver@\:.service

Thanks, but... what are you trying to tell me?  I already started
vncserver as service along the lines of the above

-Type=simple
-ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l  -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 
x -fg"
+Type=forking
+-ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l  -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 
x"

for a long time, but it did not start a valid session and thus
polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 didn't start.  My .vnc/xstartup then
calls /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and my .Xclient calls startxfce4 (with
--with-ck-launch until yesterday).  I don't see anything in the above
which would change that behaviour.


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