Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > Which helps if and only if you have a list of them and take the time > to translate everything yourself. Putting in comments to make it > easy to understand would be nice, but at this time, I'll refer you > to what Rhett Butler said at the end of Gone With The Wind. The colors in ls come from settings in /etc/DIR_COLORS, which has (and has had for a long time) many comments describing the colors and which are assigned to what. If you don't like, don't want, etc. the colors, that's fine, but to say they are not documented is wrong. -- Chris Adams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:43:37 -0500 g wrote: > On 08/02/2013 06:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > If it doesn't popup when you hover the mouse pointer over the > > widget, it is probably because widgets are "locked". Locking the > > widgets is useful when you set them up as you like them and don't > > want to move or close them accidentally (you lock them in a fixed > > place). > > i understand how to lock widgets and is not the problem, as i do not > have any of them locked. > > problem is from first time i clicked the "x" in the handle and the > entire widget disappeared. what i am needing to know is how to > restore. Do the following: (1) make sure that widgets are unlocked, (2) right-click on the desktop and choose "Add widgets", (3) within the user-interface that opens up, find the "Folder View" widget, (4) Drag&drop the "Folder View" widget onto the desktop. This process is in fact also described in the second link I have pointed you to: http://www.maketecheasier.com/get-the-most-out-of-kde4s-folderview-widget/2009/05/08 I wasn't joking when I said that you should read it. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 02:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> Which helps if and only if you have a list of them and take the time to translate everything yourself. Putting in comments to make it easy to understand would be nice, but at this time, I'll refer you to what Rhett Butler said at the end of Gone With The Wind. LMAO. i thank you for that one Joe. you brought a happy ending to an otherwise dismal day. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On 08/02/2013 06:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: <> If it doesn't popup when you hover the mouse pointer over the widget, it is probably because widgets are "locked". Locking the widgets is useful when you set them up as you like them and don't want to move or close them accidentally (you lock them in a fixed place). i understand how to lock widgets and is not the problem, as i do not have any of them locked. problem is from first time i clicked the "x" in the handle and the entire widget disappeared. what i am needing to know is how to restore. from suggestion in a previous post, to join kde list and ask there. i sent a "subscribe" email to kde list at 0015 hrs gmt and now await a reply. which i imagine will take some time. You may want to familiarize yourself with KDE desktop controls. A couple of good reads: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma http://www.maketecheasier.com/get-the-most-out-of-kde4s-folderview-widget/2009/05/08 informative links, but they apply to using the widget, not restoring it. thanks again for your response. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
On 08/02/2013 05:56 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 02/08/13 18:26, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> > I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to >>> reboot. That looked like a normal install such as I have done before >>> but after that clicking on start simply begins another install process. >>> > >>> > What am I doing wrong? >>> > >>> > >> The DVD didn't eject. >> >> On the lower right of VM display will be a DVD/CD Icon. Right click >> and do the needful. >> > > That was what I needed, those icons don't show up very well and just say > that they "indicate" various functions. I was able to "eject" the disk > and then Fedora started as expected. The Gnome 3 desk top is strange to > say the least. Got into full screen and the only way out was to > shutdown. Normally I would expect "ESC" to return a normal display. I > will stick with XFCE ... > > Thanks to all, > > Bob > Make sure you install the virtual Guest Additions. When your VM is up, it's on the DEVICES menu -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 8:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 05:00 PM, David wrote: >> Well good then. You changed your system from the distroution defaults to >> what you, personally, want. What works for you. >> >> Windows users do that. they set the default installed system to what >> they want. MacOS users do that too. So all is good then? > > I'd probably prefer it if the various alias scripts were called from > ~/.bashrc with comments so that they could be commented out, but I'm not > holding my breath. As it is, I'm content with what I have, and it's > easy to show others how to do it if they ask. I'm not sure why color is > the default, and I'd be astonished if anybody here knew, but I'm not > about to waste time arguing the question because it's not important. I have had this for 'my' prompt(s) for so long, probably around Red Hat 6.0. COLOR1="\[\033[1;37m\]" [ "$PS1" = "\\s-\\v\\\$ " ] && PS1="$COLOR1[\u] \w \\$ " this makes my prompt show my name in bright white in [] as well as the current directory I use this one for 'root' # Root prompt COLOR1="\[\033[1;37m\]" COLOR2="\[\033[1;31m\]" PS1="$COLOR1[$COLOR2\u$COLOR1] \$PWD \\$ " which shows 'root' in bright red but the rest in bright white. These define the variables COLORx and use them in the prompt Something I learned many, many years ago. No magic involved. ANSI codes and defining Bash variables. Which is what I assume they Fedora people, and others, do. Have a good day. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 05:00 PM, David wrote: Well good then. You changed your system from the distroution defaults to what you, personally, want. What works for you. Windows users do that. they set the default installed system to what they want. MacOS users do that too. So all is good then? I'd probably prefer it if the various alias scripts were called from ~/.bashrc with comments so that they could be commented out, but I'm not holding my breath. As it is, I'm content with what I have, and it's easy to show others how to do it if they ask. I'm not sure why color is the default, and I'd be astonished if anybody here knew, but I'm not about to waste time arguing the question because it's not important. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 7:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 04:20 PM, David wrote: >> Then change youe user's config. That is not touched by system changes >> and will override the system configurations. You should, so I do not >> repeat, read my comment to Joe Zeff about this in this thread. > > And that's why I ended up doing exactly that. It gets me what I want in > a way that system "updates" can't undo. Well good then. You changed your system from the distroution defaults to what you, personally, want. What works for you. Windows users do that. they set the default installed system to what they want. MacOS users do that too. So all is good then? -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 04:20 PM, David wrote: Then change youe user's config. That is not touched by system changes and will override the system configurations. You should, so I do not repeat, read my comment to Joe Zeff about this in this thread. And that's why I ended up doing exactly that. It gets me what I want in a way that system "updates" can't undo. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:11:13 -0500 g wrote: > On 08/02/2013 02:23 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > can help you learn what's what, and express yourself a bit better. > > what i am referring to is #9 - folder view widget. but they do not > show the 'pop out' sidebar. Right, ok. That "sidebar" you refer to is called the widget handle --- it is a small panel with several buttons that provide control over the widget. If it doesn't popup when you hover the mouse pointer over the widget, it is probably because widgets are "locked". Locking the widgets is useful when you set them up as you like them and don't want to move or close them accidentally (you lock them in a fixed place). To unlock the widgets, right-click somewhere at the desktop and choose the "unlock widgets" option from the pop-up menu. After that the handles will reappear when hovering over widgets. You can also choose the "unlock widgets" option from the "plasma desktop" menu in the top-right corner of the desktop (click to open it). You may want to familiarize yourself with KDE desktop controls. A couple of good reads: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma http://www.maketecheasier.com/get-the-most-out-of-kde4s-folderview-widget/2009/05/08 HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 5:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:08:26 -0400 > David wrote: > >> You do know that you can change the system default? > > Not very easily. Every time the package that owns the file > gets an update, the original is put back. > > In fact, I have thwarted that on my system by running a > yum "hook" function that re-applies all my hacks every time > there is an update, but it is silly that I have to resort > to that. > Then change youe user's config. That is not touched by system changes and will override the system configurations. You should, so I do not repeat, read my comment to Joe Zeff about this in this thread. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 4:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 01:08 PM, David wrote: >> You do know that you can change the system default? As well as changing >> it in your users .bashrc file? The best of two worlds you and Joe get it >> your way and the rest of the Fedora world gets it their way. > > Yes, and that's why instead of wasting time with a pointless bugzilla, I > found what I consider an elegant workaround, although I'll admit that I > like unalias better, now that it's been pointed out. As I said .. It's all about choice and knowledge. This is about Fedora, here, but as a point I have *not* tried all the so many Linux distributions but of the many, many I have tried they *all* use some form of colors. For a simple example? Press while Plymouth is running during boot. You will see colored test. It happens everywhere. And, as I said, since you want to vary from the defualt - you will have to do that. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
On 08/03/13 06:56, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > That was what I needed, those icons don't show up very well and just say that > they "indicate" various functions. I was able to "eject" the disk and then > Fedora started as expected. The Gnome 3 desk top is strange to say the least. > Got into full screen and the only way out was to shutdown. Normally I would > expect "ESC" to return a normal display. I will stick with XFCE ... I think when you're running GNOME as your Desktop and running VBox in full screen mode all you need do is move your cursor to the bottom center. Then you'll get a drop down to quit FS. That is the way it works in KDE. Alternatively, you use "Host+F". The "Host" key is defined, by default, as Right-Ctrl. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
On 02/08/13 18:26, Ed Greshko wrote: > I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to reboot. That looked like a normal install such as I have done before but after that clicking on start simply begins another install process. > > What am I doing wrong? > > The DVD didn't eject. On the lower right of VM display will be a DVD/CD Icon. Right click and do the needful. That was what I needed, those icons don't show up very well and just say that they "indicate" various functions. I was able to "eject" the disk and then Fedora started as expected. The Gnome 3 desk top is strange to say the least. Got into full screen and the only way out was to shutdown. Normally I would expect "ESC" to return a normal display. I will stick with XFCE ... Thanks to all, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-19 Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
On 08/03/13 05:43, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I am almost ashamed to present another VirtualBox question but it's use is > not intuitive [for me anyway]. > > I yum removed VB and re-installed from VirtualBox.org. That solved the > problem of it not running with the kernel from this morning's update. I also > downloaded Fedora-19-x86_64-DVD.iso [4.4GB] in the wee hours to avoid it > being charged against my usage allocation. > > I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to reboot. That > looked like a normal install such as I have done before but after that > clicking on start simply begins another install process. > > What am I doing wrong? > > The DVD didn't eject. On the lower right of VM display will be a DVD/CD Icon. Right click and do the needful. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
On 08/02/2013 04:43 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I am almost ashamed to present another VirtualBox question but it's use > is not intuitive [for me anyway]. > > I yum removed VB and re-installed from VirtualBox.org. That solved the > problem of it not running with the kernel from this morning's update. I > also downloaded Fedora-19-x86_64-DVD.iso [4.4GB] in the wee hours to > avoid it being charged against my usage allocation. > > I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to reboot. > That looked like a normal install such as I have done before but after > that clicking on start simply begins another install process. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Bob > Do a shutdown from the VB menu. When shut down, remove the iso file from the virtual CD drive, then start the VM. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Joe Zeff ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 23:13: On 08/02/2013 02:04 PM, antonio wrote: upgraded by fedup. What are the missing packages?? I don't know, not using bluetooth. Try running yumex and have it search for bluetooth. Then, look at the ones that aren't installed (color coded) and see if any of them look like what you need. very likely that dongle is not working any more, same troubles in Windows.Waiting for a new dongle, -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On 08/02/2013 02:31 PM, inode0 wrote: Not every bug will be fixed. If that isn't your expectation then you really should adjust your expectations. If some number of cases of what you perceive to be wasted effort outweighs those cases where bugs are fixed and millions of people benefit because of you then go ahead and give up. I think the single case here or there where you are the reason millions of people benefit outweighs all the annoying cases where your report might appear to be ignored though. I would say that maybe 30% of the bugs I report get fixed, at most. Of those that don't, about 60% get no comments by anybody except that they're being closed at EOL. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 02:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: In fact, I have thwarted that on my system by running a yum "hook" function that re-applies all my hacks every time there is an update, but it is silly that I have to resort to that. This is why I referred to my method as elegant: I don't need to know where the colors are set up and I don't need to worry about updates stepping on my changes. I've applied it to my own .bashrc and root's. There are two friends who have accounts for ssh reasons, and if they don't like color ls, they can either change it, or ask me about it because I'm not imposing my preferences on them. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More VirtualBox problems -
Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wildblue.net> writes: > I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to reboot. > That looked like a normal install such as I have done before but after > that clicking on start simply begins another install process. > > What am I doing wrong? Often the disc doesn't pop out as it's supposed to after the install. You can try selecting "Boot from local drive" under the Troubleshooting menu, and if that works, then remove the disc. If not, I've had to try to reboot and quickly remove the disc before it boots from it. I've always been able to do it eventually, though it's often a struggle. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
More VirtualBox problems -
I am almost ashamed to present another VirtualBox question but it's use is not intuitive [for me anyway]. I yum removed VB and re-installed from VirtualBox.org. That solved the problem of it not running with the kernel from this morning's update. I also downloaded Fedora-19-x86_64-DVD.iso [4.4GB] in the wee hours to avoid it being charged against my usage allocation. I was able to install Fedora-19 to the point where it says to reboot. That looked like a normal install such as I have done before but after that clicking on start simply begins another install process. What am I doing wrong? Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-19 Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 2 August 2013 19:09, inode0 wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: >>> On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: >>> Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. >>> >>> It's free software, and therefore I'm not expecting that people find the >>> time to fix my bug. In 99% of all cases, the bug is reported elsewhere >>> and I fix it, recompile or work around it. >>> >>> The thing is: I take my time to elaborate and report the bug (and >>> occasionally even have the solution), but nobody answers - ever. >>> Would be enough with e.g. an automatically generated message >>> when one of the developers reads my bugreport, just to know that it >>> was worth the effort. Instead you are telling me that's me who has to >>> change. >> >> I understand. And another volunteer helps out by rewriting a poorly >> written page on the wiki. Nobody replies to him either. Another person >> sends out 100 home burned DVDs of Fedora at his own expense to people >> requesting help and none of them say thank you. >> >> It is your decision that what you are doing is or isn't worthwhile >> based on the reaction or non-reaction of someone else. I see much >> value in the contributions you are making as well as in the >> contributions other people make regardless of feedback. I'm not saying >> you have to change but I do think you'll be less annoyed by lack of >> feedback if you (a) don't expect it and (b) know what you are doing is >> valuable without feedback. >> > > When you've gone through a couple of cycles of reporting a bug, not > having it replied to at all and the thing is not fixed in a new > release, to the point where ultimately it becomes obsolete because > you've given up on trying, you do start to wonder whether it's putting > any effort into filing the thing in the first place. Actually > compiling a useful bug report rather than a "this doesn't work" takes > time, why would you do that if you didn't think anyone would even look > at it? If I adjust my expectations to believe it's pointless then I > wont waste my time doing it. Not every bug will be fixed. If that isn't your expectation then you really should adjust your expectations. If some number of cases of what you perceive to be wasted effort outweighs those cases where bugs are fixed and millions of people benefit because of you then go ahead and give up. I think the single case here or there where you are the reason millions of people benefit outweighs all the annoying cases where your report might appear to be ignored though. John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:08:26 -0400 David wrote: > You do know that you can change the system default? Not very easily. Every time the package that owns the file gets an update, the original is put back. In fact, I have thwarted that on my system by running a yum "hook" function that re-applies all my hacks every time there is an update, but it is silly that I have to resort to that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:30:57 -0400 David wrote: Many others like them since you are the only user to complain. No, he's not. It is especially fun when your default terminal colors are light foreground and dark background. Most ls output goes almost invisible. The colors I see are visisble on a dark background. I do not care for them and they would be hard to see on a pale background. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword." -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Joe Zeff ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 23:02: On 08/02/2013 01:37 PM, antonio wrote: furthermore, same device was working fine in F18...what happened??? Did you upgrade with fedup, or do a fresh install? I ask because I used fedup on both my desktop and laptop[1]. In both cases, sound had to be reconfigured, and part of pulseaudio had to be re-installed on the desktop. It also completely removed wine from both. Check to see if there's a needed bluetooth package missing. [1]Except for needing a hard reboot at the end, the laptop's upgrade appeared to work just fine. installed also blueman but no input device is detected... -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
On 08/02/2013 02:04 PM, antonio wrote: upgraded by fedup. What are the missing packages?? I don't know, not using bluetooth. Try running yumex and have it search for bluetooth. Then, look at the ones that aren't installed (color coded) and see if any of them look like what you need. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On 08/02/2013 02:28 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: <> OK, what I *think* you are talking about, then is the KDE plasma widget for the desktop folder, called a "folder view." What you are calling a "sidebar" is, I think, called a "handle" among KDE folk (and I'm not one). What it sounds like is that you have the widget there, but the handle seems to have disappeared so you can't move it or resize it or whatever. ok. widget is a good word. ;=) out of curiosity, i went to every popular wikipedia, to see how they described it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget line above "In computing" gave me a good laugh. as for "handle", i guess that is about as good as any other. :=) That means it's a KDE issue, not a fedora/scientific linux issue, which is why nobody answered you in the other forum. You might want to ask in a KDE forum. i do believe you are correct on that one. i will join the kde forum and ask there. i believe that i may get better info than on the fedora-kde forum. Good luck! thanks very much. i will post back to see what i find. take care. have a good one. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On 08/02/2013 02:23 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: <> can help you learn what's what, and express yourself a bit better. thank you marko. nice bit of info. what i am referring to is #9 - folder view widget. but they do not show the 'pop out' sidebar. HTH, :-) it did. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On 08/02/2013 01:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: <> I don't see anything on this url, it requires me to register and log in. Please provide a better url, that one can access without restrictions. my bad. i had trouble with that site also, and i am registered. so, here is a new url, no registration; http://imagebin.org/266341 will checkout links later this afternoon. thanks again for your replies and advice. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Joe Zeff ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 23:02: On 08/02/2013 01:37 PM, antonio wrote: furthermore, same device was working fine in F18...what happened??? Did you upgrade with fedup, or do a fresh install? I ask because I used fedup on both my desktop and laptop[1]. In both cases, sound had to be reconfigured, and part of pulseaudio had to be re-installed on the desktop. It also completely removed wine from both. Check to see if there's a needed bluetooth package missing. [1]Except for needing a hard reboot at the end, the laptop's upgrade appeared to work just fine. upgraded by fedup. What are the missing packages?? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Grub2 problems
On 08/02/2013 01:52 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Hey, Joe, "even a blind pig finds the occasional truffle!" I'd hope so. Pigs find truffles by scent. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
On 08/02/2013 01:37 PM, antonio wrote: furthermore, same device was working fine in F18...what happened??? Did you upgrade with fedup, or do a fresh install? I ask because I used fedup on both my desktop and laptop[1]. In both cases, sound had to be reconfigured, and part of pulseaudio had to be re-installed on the desktop. It also completely removed wine from both. Check to see if there's a needed bluetooth package missing. [1]Except for needing a hard reboot at the end, the laptop's upgrade appeared to work just fine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Grub2 problems
On 08/02/2013 01:32 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 08/02/2013 01:19 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: 1. Use the arrow keys to highlight the kernel you want to modify 2. Press "E" to begin editing that entry 3. Use the arrow keys to scroll down to the line beginning with "linux" 4. Press the "END" key to go to the end of the line 5. Tack on a space and the word "single" (without the quotes) to the end 6. Press F10 to boot the modified entry. When I was only able to boot this computer to a CLI (old-style runlevel 3) I found that I could scroll down to the line under that, use the left-arrow key to get to the end of the proper line and add " 3" without the quotes. Using END hadn't occurred to me. Thanx! Hey, Joe, "even a blind pig finds the occasional truffle!" "blind pig" <--- ME! :-) -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Silence! Or I shall replace you with a very small shell script! - -- The Wizard of OS - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Fred Smith ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 19:55: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 07:25:38PM +0200, antonio wrote: when I check in Bluetooth, O get that no device is detected, but: lsusb Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth what is wrong??? Could it be that the message means it can't find a bluetooth phone or other bluetooth device? (i.e., NOT that it cannot find a bluetooth device on your computer...) this is the output of dmesg... [ 65.410405] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.16 [ 65.410508] NET: Registered protocol family 31 [ 65.410510] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized [ 65.410522] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [ 65.410525] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [ 65.410535] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized [ 65.462773] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3 [ 65.462779] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast [ 65.462791] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized [ 71.670794] wlp6s0: authenticate with 00:18:84:1c:47:2a [ 71.672613] wlp6s0: send auth to 00:18:84:1c:47:2a (try 1/3) [ 71.674329] wlp6s0: authenticated [ 71.674526] iwl3945 :06:00.0 wlp6s0: disabling HT/VHT due to WEP/TKIP use [ 71.675034] wlp6s0: associate with 00:18:84:1c:47:2a (try 1/3) [ 71.678461] wlp6s0: RX AssocResp from 00:18:84:1c:47:2a (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1) [ 71.679583] wlp6s0: associated [ 71.679623] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlp6s0: link becomes ready [ 71.679684] cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: NA [ 71.733149] wlp6s0: Limiting TX power to 27 (27 - 0) dBm as advertised by 00:18:84:1c:47:2a [ 81.754394] fuse init (API version 7.22) [ 81.757623] SELinux: initialized (dev fuse, type fuse), uses genfs_contexts [ 81.774268] SELinux: initialized (dev fusectl, type fusectl), uses genfs_contexts -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On 2 August 2013 19:09, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: >> >>> Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the >>> easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. >> >> It's free software, and therefore I'm not expecting that people find the >> time to fix my bug. In 99% of all cases, the bug is reported elsewhere >> and I fix it, recompile or work around it. >> >> The thing is: I take my time to elaborate and report the bug (and >> occasionally even have the solution), but nobody answers - ever. >> Would be enough with e.g. an automatically generated message >> when one of the developers reads my bugreport, just to know that it >> was worth the effort. Instead you are telling me that's me who has to >> change. > > I understand. And another volunteer helps out by rewriting a poorly > written page on the wiki. Nobody replies to him either. Another person > sends out 100 home burned DVDs of Fedora at his own expense to people > requesting help and none of them say thank you. > > It is your decision that what you are doing is or isn't worthwhile > based on the reaction or non-reaction of someone else. I see much > value in the contributions you are making as well as in the > contributions other people make regardless of feedback. I'm not saying > you have to change but I do think you'll be less annoyed by lack of > feedback if you (a) don't expect it and (b) know what you are doing is > valuable without feedback. > When you've gone through a couple of cycles of reporting a bug, not having it replied to at all and the thing is not fixed in a new release, to the point where ultimately it becomes obsolete because you've given up on trying, you do start to wonder whether it's putting any effort into filing the thing in the first place. Actually compiling a useful bug report rather than a "this doesn't work" takes time, why would you do that if you didn't think anyone would even look at it? If I adjust my expectations to believe it's pointless then I wont waste my time doing it. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Fred Smith ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 19:55: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 07:25:38PM +0200, antonio wrote: when I check in Bluetooth, O get that no device is detected, but: lsusb Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth what is wrong??? Could it be that the message means it can't find a bluetooth phone or other bluetooth device? (i.e., NOT that it cannot find a bluetooth device on your computer...) furthermore, same device was working fine in F18...what happened??? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
Fred Smith ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 02/08/2013 19:55: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 07:25:38PM +0200, antonio wrote: when I check in Bluetooth, O get that no device is detected, but: lsusb Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth what is wrong??? Could it be that the message means it can't find a bluetooth phone or other bluetooth device? (i.e., NOT that it cannot find a bluetooth device on your computer...) no, it means exactly that when I want to activate bluetooth no adapter is detected. -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Grub2 problems
On 08/02/2013 01:19 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: 1. Use the arrow keys to highlight the kernel you want to modify 2. Press "E" to begin editing that entry 3. Use the arrow keys to scroll down to the line beginning with "linux" 4. Press the "END" key to go to the end of the line 5. Tack on a space and the word "single" (without the quotes) to the end 6. Press F10 to boot the modified entry. When I was only able to boot this computer to a CLI (old-style runlevel 3) I found that I could scroll down to the line under that, use the left-arrow key to get to the end of the proper line and add " 3" without the quotes. Using END hadn't occurred to me. Thanx! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 01:08 PM, David wrote: You do know that you can change the system default? As well as changing it in your users .bashrc file? The best of two worlds you and Joe get it your way and the rest of the Fedora world gets it their way. Yes, and that's why instead of wasting time with a pointless bugzilla, I found what I consider an elegant workaround, although I'll admit that I like unalias better, now that it's been pointed out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 12:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:30:57 -0400 David wrote: Many others like them since you are the only user to complain. No, he's not. It is especially fun when your default terminal colors are light foreground and dark background. Most ls output goes almost invisible. Or, if you're color blind. I once opened a bugzilla against yumex for not honoring color changes because somebody on a forum was complaining about it, but didn't have a bugzilla account. He wasn't color blind, but as I was writing up the report, that possibility came to mind. I'm pleased to say that this is one bug report that didn't go unfixed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Grub2 problems
On 08/02/2013 11:36 AM, Frank issued this missive: I have been having some minor problems with grub2 lately - grub is installed in /dev/sda the only HD on this machine. When the grub menu comes up after a boot/reboot I cannot select certain items as the selection bar just skips by them. Usually I can select them if I start at the bottom and then they will not be skipped, but others will. Another problem which may be related - if I try to edit one of the items before booting, a get double characters ( like ssiinnggllee). Then it seems grub ignores what I have typed in. If I add single to the kernel line it boots like I didn't type in anything. The "single" has to be at the end of the line beginning with the word "linux", then just hit F10 to boot it. Do NOT press "ENTER" before hitting F10. In a nutshell: 1. Use the arrow keys to highlight the kernel you want to modify 2. Press "E" to begin editing that entry 3. Use the arrow keys to scroll down to the line beginning with "linux" 4. Press the "END" key to go to the end of the line 5. Tack on a space and the word "single" (without the quotes) to the end 6. Press F10 to boot the modified entry. I can't speak to the double character stuff. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Brain: The organ with which we think that we think.- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 1:08 PM, David wrote: On 8/2/2013 3:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: [...] So there is *two* of you? :-) Seriously I can see your problem here. I seriously doubt there are plans to change this or make a GUI to change it. And I seriously doubt that comments here will make any difference. You do know that you can change the system default? As well as changing it in your users .bashrc file? The best of two worlds you and Joe get it your way and the rest of the Fedora world gets it their way. I don't know whether this will help and/or is related, but I had a problem awhile back with incorrect colors for various types of files and got a fix (bug 817218). In that dialog, I expressed a desire to be able to customize on top of the default DIR_COLORS (rather than an outright replacement) That was done as 818069 (a thanks to the developers). Unfortunately, I am still on F16 as I haven't had luck with F17 or F18 so I haven't fully tested (keyboard issues). Hopefully F19 will behave on my machines. Doubt if gui's will ever happen, but there is response to making it easier for users to do their own thing Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
Hi Joe, On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 12:11:58PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 12:03 PM, David wrote: > >Unless something changed when I was not looking the codes you refer to > >are ANSI color and ANSI control codes. > > Which helps if and only if you have a list of them and take the time to > translate everything yourself. Putting in comments to make it easy to > understand would be nice dircolors -p -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum + Java
Frédéric Bron wrote: >> So what exactly does the comment/warning mean? >> And what should one do about it? > > see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991340 Thanks for the response. As far as I can see, java and its bits have been set up correctly, despite the warning by yum. I checked that I am using the version of java recommended in the bugzilla above. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 12:30 PM, David wrote: As for the colors? Linux is about choice. You don't like them? Remove them and go on your merry way. Many others like them since you are the only user to complain. Or, and this is a distinct possibility, I'm the only one who doesn't like them and is aware that ls doesn't have them by default. If all you've ever had is color ls, you might not even know that you don't have to have them. My objection is to making it so that everybody has it simply because the person who set up the default .bashrc likes it. (I remember, back in the '90s, when the default .Xresources [I think] had some awful, drab color scheme along with the comment that this is what whoever set it up liked, and if you didn't like it, tough.) BTW. Those horrible colors have been there long enough that I don't recall just when they first started using them in Linux. I do remember them from DOS 3.0. Yeah; I remember those days, and CP/M, too. There's no good reason, today, to use the codes directly. Have a shell file that assigns human-readable names to all of them and call that from whatever scripts use colors, so that users can tell what the colors are. With that, and a printout of the script assigning colors to file types, color ls becomes usable. Without it, it's gibberish to me, and probably a large percentage of others. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 3:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:30:57 -0400 > David wrote: > >> Many others like them since you are the >> only user to complain. > > No, he's not. > > It is especially fun when your default terminal colors are > light foreground and dark background. Most ls output goes > almost invisible. > So there is *two* of you? :-) Seriously I can see your problem here. I seriously doubt there are plans to change this or make a GUI to change it. And I seriously doubt that comments here will make any difference. You do know that you can change the system default? As well as changing it in your users .bashrc file? The best of two worlds you and Joe get it your way and the rest of the Fedora world gets it their way. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:30:57 -0400 David wrote: > Many others like them since you are the > only user to complain. No, he's not. It is especially fun when your default terminal colors are light foreground and dark background. Most ls output goes almost invisible. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 3:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 12:03 PM, David wrote: >> Unless something changed when I was not looking the codes you refer to >> are ANSI color and ANSI control codes. > > Which helps if and only if you have a list of them and take the time to > translate everything yourself. Putting in comments to make it easy to > understand would be nice, but at this time, I'll refer you to what Rhett > Butler said at the end of Gone With The Wind. Google is your friend. Just Google search the word ANSI. As for the colors? Linux is about choice. You don't like them? Remove them and go on your merry way. Many others like them since you are the only user to complain. BTW. Those horrible colors have been there long enough that I don't recall just when they first started using them in Linux. I do remember them from DOS 3.0. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, g wrote: On 08/02/2013 10:36 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: <<>> I think you may be using some words differently than I do, so let me ask you a couple of quick questions: i agree, there is a lot of differences between fedora and scientific linux. this release, 6.3, is comparable to rhel 6.3, well behind fedora. as mentioned in 1st post, i did not receive any reply from sl list. a little surprising, but, then again, what to expect from a bunch of "nuke heads". ;=) i should have made it easier all around to prevent confusion and make my question more clear, so... if you will have a look at this url; http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ6il56ql6TZ0e2YmunS3A which is from root's desktop, you can see most of what i am referring to on upper left of "desktop". in addition, to be more proper, objection of question is "desktop folder". what is missing in snapshot, as it would not continue showing when i opened snapshot prog, is the "sidebar" that appears to right of "desktop folder" when one clicks inside "desktop folder". i hope this clears things and my apologies for stirring up the 'mud'. in closing, i thank you for your quick response. OK, what I *think* you are talking about, then is the KDE plasma widget for the desktop folder, called a "folder view." What you are calling a "sidebar" is, I think, called a "handle" among KDE folk (and I'm not one). What it sounds like is that you have the widget there, but the handle seems to have disappeared so you can't move it or resize it or whatever. That means it's a KDE issue, not a fedora/scientific linux issue, which is why nobody answered you in the other forum. You might want to ask in a KDE forum. I'm not the best person to ask, but here are a couple of thoughts: There are a couple of reasons that might have happened. The most common reason for me is that I have multiple virtual desktops and allow windows to slide between them. Sometimes when I have a window or widget way off to the side, the handle opens in the other virtual desktop and I don't see it in the virtual desktop I'm in. The way to fix that is to use keystrokes to grab and move the window farther into the desktop you are using. You can go into KDE and configure it so that you can use a combination of keystrokes and mouse movements to grab and move windows and widgets. For me, it's alt-left mouse button. If you move the window to the middle of the screen, you might see the handle pop up. The second reason it might happen is that you have set "lock widgets" which will stop people from modifying or moving them around. So, look at that (I bet it's the second one -- it's easy to accidentally set stuff like that), and if that doesn't work, ask in a KDE forum. Good luck! billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:48:16 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:44:26 -0500 > g wrote: > > if you will have a look at this url; > > > > > > http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ6il56ql6TZ0e2YmunS3A From the thumbnail of your desktop on that page, I can kind-of guess that it looks like KDE. If that is the case, maybe this link http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/plasma-desktop/using-kapp.html#default-plasma-desktop can help you learn what's what, and express yourself a bit better. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 12:03 PM, David wrote: Unless something changed when I was not looking the codes you refer to are ANSI color and ANSI control codes. Which helps if and only if you have a list of them and take the time to translate everything yourself. Putting in comments to make it easy to understand would be nice, but at this time, I'll refer you to what Rhett Butler said at the end of Gone With The Wind. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 8/2/2013 2:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/02/2013 05:27 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: >> The colors are defined in /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: > > Reading that, the alias is set up, but there's no listing of which color > means what. And, if you do track that down, it's all in hex codes, so > that there's no easy way to find out what those codes mean. If you like > the color ls, use it. I don't, and I don't appreciate being told that > I'm going to have it whether I want it or not, so I've found the > simplest way to get rid of it permanently. Unless something changed when I was not looking the codes you refer to are ANSI color and ANSI control codes. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:44:26 -0500 g wrote: > as mentioned in 1st post, i did not receive any reply from sl list. a > little surprising, but, then again, what to expect from a bunch of > "nuke heads". ;=) > > i should have made it easier all around to prevent confusion and make > my question more clear, so... > > if you will have a look at this url; > > > http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ6il56ql6TZ0e2YmunS3A I don't see anything on this url, it requires me to register and log in. Please provide a better url, that one can access without restrictions. > which is from root's desktop, you can see most of what i am referring > to on upper left of "desktop". in addition, to be more proper, > objection of question is "desktop folder". > > what is missing in snapshot, as it would not continue showing when i > opened snapshot prog, is the "sidebar" that appears to right of > "desktop folder" when one clicks inside "desktop folder". I still have a hard time understanding what you are talking about. Aside from the fact that this is probably a wrong list to ask this question (try to be more elaborate on the SL mailing list, include more details, provide a better Subject title... you might get more attention...), you should first of all state some relevant information, since most people here are not familiar with Scientific Linux: * what desktop environment are you using (Gnome, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Sugar, Mate, ...)? * which version of that desktop (look up the "about" option in the "help" menus of native applications)? Second, you need to express yourself using appropriate terminology. Within a given DE, in addition to a background, there are desktops, workspaces, windows, panels, widgets, popups, trays, menus, icons, plasmoids, launchers, docks, corners, edges, bars, buttons, sliders, tabs, etc... You need to learn which of these names represents which objects on the screen (use [1], [2] and google!), and then use an appropriate name to describe what you did to which object, and how to revert to a previous state. Then people will understand what is going on and probably be able to help you. HTH, :-) Marko [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface_elements [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUI_widget#List_of_common_generic_widgets -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Grub2 problems
I have been having some minor problems with grub2 lately - grub is installed in /dev/sda the only HD on this machine. When the grub menu comes up after a boot/reboot I cannot select certain items as the selection bar just skips by them. Usually I can select them if I start at the bottom and then they will not be skipped, but others will. Another problem which may be related - if I try to edit one of the items before booting, a get double characters ( like ssiinnggllee). Then it seems grub ignores what I have typed in. If I add single to the kernel line it boots like I didn't type in anything. This is a relatively new Fedora 19 installation, with a USB keyboard. I updated the machine's BIOS in case there was a problem with it but nothing changed. Does anyone have any ideas ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 05:27 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: The colors are defined in /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: Reading that, the alias is set up, but there's no listing of which color means what. And, if you do track that down, it's all in hex codes, so that there's no easy way to find out what those codes mean. If you like the color ls, use it. I don't, and I don't appreciate being told that I'm going to have it whether I want it or not, so I've found the simplest way to get rid of it permanently. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: > >> Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the >> easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. > > It's free software, and therefore I'm not expecting that people find the > time to fix my bug. In 99% of all cases, the bug is reported elsewhere > and I fix it, recompile or work around it. > > The thing is: I take my time to elaborate and report the bug (and > occasionally even have the solution), but nobody answers - ever. > Would be enough with e.g. an automatically generated message > when one of the developers reads my bugreport, just to know that it > was worth the effort. Instead you are telling me that's me who has to > change. I understand. And another volunteer helps out by rewriting a poorly written page on the wiki. Nobody replies to him either. Another person sends out 100 home burned DVDs of Fedora at his own expense to people requesting help and none of them say thank you. It is your decision that what you are doing is or isn't worthwhile based on the reaction or non-reaction of someone else. I see much value in the contributions you are making as well as in the contributions other people make regardless of feedback. I'm not saying you have to change but I do think you'll be less annoyed by lack of feedback if you (a) don't expect it and (b) know what you are doing is valuable without feedback. John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No Bluetooth device is detected
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 07:25:38PM +0200, antonio wrote: > when I check in Bluetooth, O get that no device is detected, but: > lsusb > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam > Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver > v1.0 for Bluetooth > > what is wrong??? Could it be that the message means it can't find a bluetooth phone or other bluetooth device? (i.e., NOT that it cannot find a bluetooth device on your computer...) -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -- Philippians 4:13 --- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On 08/02/2013 10:36 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: <<>> I think you may be using some words differently than I do, so let me ask you a couple of quick questions: i agree, there is a lot of differences between fedora and scientific linux. this release, 6.3, is comparable to rhel 6.3, well behind fedora. as mentioned in 1st post, i did not receive any reply from sl list. a little surprising, but, then again, what to expect from a bunch of "nuke heads". ;=) i should have made it easier all around to prevent confusion and make my question more clear, so... if you will have a look at this url; http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ6il56ql6TZ0e2YmunS3A which is from root's desktop, you can see most of what i am referring to on upper left of "desktop". in addition, to be more proper, objection of question is "desktop folder". what is missing in snapshot, as it would not continue showing when i opened snapshot prog, is the "sidebar" that appears to right of "desktop folder" when one clicks inside "desktop folder". i hope this clears things and my apologies for stirring up the 'mud'. in closing, i thank you for your quick response. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
No Bluetooth device is detected
when I check in Bluetooth, O get that no device is detected, but: lsusb Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth what is wrong??? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F19(Schroedinger's cat) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: > Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the > easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. It's free software, and therefore I'm not expecting that people find the time to fix my bug. In 99% of all cases, the bug is reported elsewhere and I fix it, recompile or work around it. The thing is: I take my time to elaborate and report the bug (and occasionally even have the solution), but nobody answers - ever. Would be enough with e.g. an automatically generated message when one of the developers reads my bugreport, just to know that it was worth the effort. Instead you are telling me that's me who has to change. So what's in it for me? Serving the community and the developement of free software? Fedora? How should I know, when there's not a single reaction? Because you are telling me that all reports are read, but in most cases there is not the time to even have a short (and maybe automatic) answer? It's just right there my motivation drops. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum + Java
> So what exactly does the comment/warning mean? > And what should one do about it? see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991340 Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On 08/02/2013 05:27 AM, Darryl L. Pierce issued this missive: On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:49:27AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/01/2013 06:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:07:07 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest way to turn it off for all users (especially root)? There is a whole slew of things in /etc/profile that turn on annoying environment variables which enable things like that. Grep for the one responsible, do an rpm -q -f /etc/profile/whatever to see which package inflicted it on you, then yum -C erase that package (of course, checking to see there aren't other more critical things provided by the package :-). Personally, I've never liked color ls, largely because it's almost impossible to find a chart that tells you what the colors mean. I used to track down where that was set and disable it, but that can get changed by an update. Now, I just put the following line near the bottom of ~/.bashrc: alias ls=ls It's cleaner to "unalias ls" in your ~/.bashrc instead. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "lousy hunter" - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: desktop file location
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, g wrote: greetings, first off, i am running scientific linux 6.3 with kde 4.3.4 and i asked this question on the sl list, but, received no answer. my problem is that for some reason or other, i have now killed off the desktop by accidentally clicking the "x" that appears in the 'sidebar' [which may not be proper name] that pops out to right of desktop. i searched thru files that i thought would be associated with desktop without finding something related to 'sidebar'. only way i have found to restore 'sidebar' is by renaming my user name and creating user again, then copying files over from a backup. i ran a search of internet with "ixquick", but found nothing related directly to such. so, i am hoping that someone on this list can supply answer. tia. -- I think you may be using some words differently than I do, so let me ask you a couple of quick questions: By "killed off the desktop" do you mean that you have: a) No graphical interface at all, just a big black screen with a prompt b) A graphical interface with a background and a cursor that's responsive to your mouse, but nothing happens when you try to do stuff with the mouse c) A responsive graphical interface with other things that come with a standard KDE desktop, such as a panel at the bottom, but you've just lost a "sidebar." I don't know much about scientific linux, but if it comes with a standard KDE desktop consider the following: 1) The word I think you might have more success with is "panel" rather than "sidebar" when it comes to web searching. I could be wrong, but that's what comes to mind for me. 2) Have you tried clicking on the right mouse button? If the issue is just that you have removed some panels and widgets, that should bring up a little box with the option "Add panel" That will allow you to put a new panel on the desktop, though of course, you will also have to populate it yourself. If you give us a better handle on your problem, there are a lot of things to try. If *nothing else* works, or if you don't particularly care about what's in your home directory, then... 3) If you have completely destroyed your desktop, then a last-resort kind of thing might simply be to delete all the KDE-relevant stuff in your home directory, log out, and then log back in. That will *usually* repopulate everything with a default configuration, but if it's just that you have screwed up some config files, it allows you start over. Of course, it will also destroy all the customization you have done. The directory you can delete is ./.kde . Note that this can be a bit dangerous. 4) Finally, if you have admin privileges, you can *truly* nuke everything and start over by doing the following: a) move your home directory and back it up, e.g. "mv /home/myname /home/myname.old" (and back it up also). b) delete your username, e.g. "userdel -r myname" c) add your username, e.g. "adduser -m myname" d) copy important stuff from /home/myname.old back into /home/myname e) delet /home/myname.old You will need to reset the password, etc. on your "new" acct. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
Am 02.08.2013 16:49, schrieb Jatin K: > On Friday 02 August 2013 12:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 02.08.2013 08:59, schrieb Darlene Wallach: >>> I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room >>> One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black >>> screen. >>> Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? >>> argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! >>> A lesson learned the hard way! >> the files are irrelevant >> >> the folder with the correct permissions is important >> /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write >> but only the onwer can open his temp-files) >> >> mkdir /tmp >> chmod 1777 /tmp >> >> in doubt reboot after that >> > I think it should be sticky bit enabled > chmod +t /tmp what do you think is the 1 of 1777 :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
desktop file location
greetings, first off, i am running scientific linux 6.3 with kde 4.3.4 and i asked this question on the sl list, but, received no answer. my problem is that for some reason or other, i have now killed off the desktop by accidentally clicking the "x" that appears in the 'sidebar' [which may not be proper name] that pops out to right of desktop. i searched thru files that i thought would be associated with desktop without finding something related to 'sidebar'. only way i have found to restore 'sidebar' is by renaming my user name and creating user again, then copying files over from a backup. i ran a search of internet with "ixquick", but found nothing related directly to such. so, i am hoping that someone on this list can supply answer. tia. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
On Friday 02 August 2013 12:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 02.08.2013 08:59, schrieb Darlene Wallach: I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black screen. Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! A lesson learned the hard way! the files are irrelevant the folder with the correct permissions is important /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write but only the onwer can open his temp-files) mkdir /tmp chmod 1777 /tmp in doubt reboot after that I think it should be sticky bit enabled chmod +t /tmp -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
Tim: >> But it's kind of hard to believe that all the bugs a person might have >> reported can't be fixed within the same release. As the original >> responder suggested, why bother making reports... Tom Horsley: > Because sometimes they become a source of great amusement like > this one: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 I seem to remember a similar situation, when I installed Fedora 17. It wanted to run at a rate faster than my monitor could handle. I had to modify GRUB, so it was text-only, else the screen shut-off pre-boot. And I had to modify GDM, for the same reason. Since my personal login let me set a screen resolution that worked (after using another monitor, to see what I wanted to do), I worked out that I could set GDM's with the same configuration file. Copying, if I remember the file name and path correctly, my ~/.config/monitors.xml file to GDM's home space (older releases used ~/.gnome2/monitors.xml). Or, as I did on another computer, modifying the file to have useful parameters, from a text-only console. I've never gone in for this bodging the screen dimensions or DPI to something false, though. You get poor resolution, and strange sizing issues. Not to mention an inability to set actual real-world measurements of things on-screen, and system coders aren't motivated to make it easy for users to properly configure their displays, when some hack that *appears* to work is used. I set up the screen details properly, and pick appropriately sized fonts. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: GUI unusable after upgrade from F 17 to F 19
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 21:58 -0400, Doug wrote: > This may be too late, but NEVER remove any file unless you know what > it's supposed to do, or you have replaced it with one that you know > works. Instead, make a copy--file.bak or file.old or something that > you can return to if you need to. Be careful when doing that. In some cases, saving a something.bak file in the same directory will mean that /that/ configuration file will be used. Such as those daemons which read a directory for any configuration files in it. I'd make back-ups in personal homespace. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On 2 August 2013 14:55, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> >>> While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of >>> bad manners >> >> It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer >> bug reports, which in turn results in worse software.. > > So why is it demotivating to some and not to others? Rather than try > to fix every bug every release and politely respond to every bug > report because none of that is ever going to happen we can think about > our expectations and the value of our reports and rather than become > demotivated take satisfaction from knowing we made a valuable > contribution regardless of whether we know anything about what > happened to it after we reported it or not. > > Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the > easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. > The Church of Bugzilla? -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
Am 02.08.2013 08:59, schrieb Darlene Wallach: > I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room > One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black screen. > Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? > argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! > A lesson learned the hard way! the files are irrelevant the folder with the correct permissions is important /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write but only the onwer can open his temp-files) mkdir /tmp chmod 1777 /tmp in doubt reboot after that signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -
Am 01.08.2013 22:58, schrieb Bill Oliver: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 01.08.2013 21:35, schrieb Bill Oliver: >>> I don't understand your complaint -- that there's a config directory *and* >>> a disk directory? I don't find that an >>> overwhelming burden. >>> The command "cp -R" doesn't seem to be too onerous a way to transfer stuff >>> from machine to machine >> >> if you ever work with more than 20 virtual machines on serveral hosts >> for testing, development as well as for production you will understand >> > > Sorry, that's a pretty bullshit answer if i would gibve such a answer the hell would freeze over again on this list > Apps should work for the people who use them. You are right -- it may be > that there are all sorts of systems that work better for people who run ten > thousand machines > on a thousand servers it works also better with *one* VM because you simply copy *one* folder for a complete backup > I don't care. What I care about is what suits *my* needs. And Virtualbox > works great for me. It > usually installs with minimal hassle (current discussion notwithstanding) i saw in the thread with vboxdrv after kernel-updates while you type simply "vmware" as root and all kernel modules are built, all services are started and you are done > don't care about what's the most elegant. I don't care about what's the most > sophisticated solution. > I don't care about showing how technologically savvy a system administrator I > am. What I care > about is solving a problem and moving on to more important things as quickly > as I can mee too, that is why i throw away vbox on my notebook a few years ago > VirtualBox does that for me: > > 1) Download app. check > 2) Click on icon. check > 3) Put in OS disk. check > 4) Click on icon. check > 5) Drink a beer. check > 6) Watch a bearded guy dance with a raccoon on YouTube. check. > 7) Move on to next problem. check. VMware doe sexactly the same but better organized * a virtual machine has properties * CD/DVD drives and virtual disks are propertys * you insert a ISO in the properties of the drive * no delaing with a "media manager" > Your response is a little like responding to a post by me saying that I > pruned the trees in my garden, threw the > limbs in my little Ford Ranger and hauled the trash to the dump by arguing > that a Mack Terrapro can haul 23,000 > lbs of rotting garbage, has a much sturdier transmission, an indestructable > drivetrain and twin trumpet horns. > Well, yeah. Whatever. And if I ever have the need to haul 23,000 lbs of > garbage on a regular basis, and want to > see my dog have seizures every time I honk the horn, I'll look into one. > Until then, I'm going to throw my stuff > in the back of my Ranger and tool on down to the landfill happy as I can be your response sounds like someone wich never saw other virtualization than vbox and you are pissed off that others call it crap http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw Linux kernel developers have marked Oracle's VirtualBox Linux kernel driver as "tainted crap" due to the overwhelming number of problems this module has caused well, the vmware guest drivers are in the linux upstream kernel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?
Am 01.08.2013 22:51, schrieb Joe Zeff: > There's one package that I can't get upgraded, and it's driving me up the > wall because every time I run an update > via yum or yumex, I have to remember to exclude it: firefox. Here's the > results of my latest try: > > Transaction check error: > file /usr/lib/firefox/browser/defaults/preferences from install of > firefox-22.0-1.fc19.i686 conflicts with file > from package firefox-22.0-1.fc17.i686 why not simply "rpm -e --nodeps firefox; yum install firefox" and in doubt "package-cleanup --dupes" and/or "package-cleanup --cleandupes" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
Am 01.08.2013 22:31, schrieb Tethys: > So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 > came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, > several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by > the package maintainer. I wonder why I bother sometimes... you are not alone. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of >> bad manners > > It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer > bug reports, which in turn results in worse software.. So why is it demotivating to some and not to others? Rather than try to fix every bug every release and politely respond to every bug report because none of that is ever going to happen we can think about our expectations and the value of our reports and rather than become demotivated take satisfaction from knowing we made a valuable contribution regardless of whether we know anything about what happened to it after we reported it or not. Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:00:16 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of > > bad manners > > It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer > bug reports, which in turn results in worse software.. > To wit, there has been a bug report that ssh does not get started as part of lxsession. I even identified the offending component and religiously filed till F18. For F19, I decided to get out of LXDE altogether and moved out of DE's. Ranjan FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of > bad manners It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer bug reports, which in turn results in worse software.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:49:27AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 06:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:07:07 -0400 > >Neal Becker wrote: > > > >>I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest > >>way to > >>turn it off for all users (especially root)? > > > >There is a whole slew of things in /etc/profile that turn on > >annoying environment variables which enable things like that. > >Grep for the one responsible, do an rpm -q -f /etc/profile/whatever > >to see which package inflicted it on you, then yum -C erase > >that package (of course, checking to see there aren't > >other more critical things provided by the package :-). > > > > Personally, I've never liked color ls, largely because it's almost > impossible to find a chart that tells you what the colors mean. I > used to track down where that was set and disable it, but that can > get changed by an update. Now, I just put the following line near > the bottom of ~/.bashrc: > > alias ls=ls > > and that overrides anything done earlier. Maybe there's something > equivalent for this that will work for all users on prompts. The colors are defined in /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: mcpierce@mcpierce-laptop:temp (master) $ rpm -qf /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh coreutils-8.21-11.fc19.x86_64 -- Darryl L. Pierce http://mcpierce.fedorapeople.org/ "What do you care what people think, Mr. Feynman?" pgpMHChRLGosC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Yum + Java
I noticed today when updating my Fedora-19/KDE laptop: Cleanup: 1:java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.25-2.3.10.10.fc19.i686 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.25-2.3.10.10.fc19.i386/jre/bin/java has not been configured as an alternative for java and a few other comments along the same lines. In spite of this warning I see that /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.25-2.3.12.3.fc19.i386/jre/bin/java So what exactly does the comment/warning mean? And what should one do about it? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: It's that time again
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:16:21 +0930 Tim wrote: > But it's kind of hard to believe that all the bugs a person might have > reported can't be fixed within the same release. As the original > responder suggested, why bother making reports... Because sometimes they become a source of great amusement like this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
Konstantin, On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 08/01/2013 11:59 PM, Darlene Wallach wrote: >> I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room >> >> Now I get errors when I boot and try to login >> >> - There is a problem with the configuration server. >> (/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) >> >> When I close that, I get: >> >> Install problem! >> The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been >> installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator. >> >> One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black >> screen. >> >> Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? >> >> argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! >> >> A lesson learned the hard way! >> >> Any advice will be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thank you >> >> Darlene Wallach >> -- >> equal justice under law > I saw Reindl's reply first and his advice worked: the folder with the correct permissions is important /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write but only the onwer can open his temp-files) mkdir /tmp chmod 1777 /tmp I did not try your suggestion, it does look like it would work too. > # mkdir /tmp > # restorecon /tmp > # reboot > > is probably all you need > Thank you very much for taking the time to read and reply to my email! Darlene Wallach -- equal justice under law -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
Suvayu, On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:59:43PM -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: >> I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room >> >> Now I get errors when I boot and try to login > > AFAIK, /tmp is a tmpfs filesystem in newer Fedoras. That means, you can > just reboot, and things will be back to normal. Did you try that? Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my email. Reindl responded with the following which worked: the folder with the correct permissions is important /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write but only the onwer can open his temp-files) mkdir /tmp chmod 1777 /tmp > > Hope this helps, > > -- > Suvayu > Thank you Darlene Wallach -- equal justice under law -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
Reindl, On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.08.2013 08:59, schrieb Darlene Wallach: >> I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room >> One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black >> screen. >> Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? >> argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! >> A lesson learned the hard way! > > the files are irrelevant > > the folder with the correct permissions is important > /tmp needs chmod 1777 (everybody is allowed to write > but only the onwer can open his temp-files) > > mkdir /tmp > chmod 1777 /tmp > > in doubt reboot after that > Thank you very much for taking the time to read my email and respond so quickly. That worked exactly as you said. Thank you! Darlene Wallach -- equal justice under law -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
On 08/01/2013 11:59 PM, Darlene Wallach wrote: > I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room > > Now I get errors when I boot and try to login > > - There is a problem with the configuration server. > (/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) > > When I close that, I get: > > Install problem! > The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been > installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator. > > One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black screen. > > Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? > > argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! > > A lesson learned the hard way! > > Any advice will be greatly appreciated! > > Thank you > > Darlene Wallach > -- > equal justice under law # mkdir /tmp # restorecon /tmp # reboot is probably all you need -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:59:43PM -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: > I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room > > Now I get errors when I boot and try to login AFAIK, /tmp is a tmpfs filesystem in newer Fedoras. That means, you can just reboot, and things will be back to normal. Did you try that? Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
I somehow managed to delete /tmp now I get errors when I try to boot and login
I somehow deleted /tmp when I was deleting files from /tmp to make room Now I get errors when I boot and try to login - There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) When I close that, I get: Install problem! The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator. One time I saw the login options - when I logged in I only saw a black screen. Other than doing an install, is there a way to recover the files in /tmp? argh! It pays to be very careful deleting things as root! A lesson learned the hard way! Any advice will be greatly appreciated! Thank you Darlene Wallach -- equal justice under law -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
