Re: reading/copying a drive??
Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, bruce sent: The drive in question has multiple partitions, but I was only trying to access the drive as a raw/data drive if that was/is possible. the sys monitor app lists the file systems for the drive as being: /dev/mapper/vg_dell45-lv_root / /dev/mapper/vg_dell45-lv_apps /apps /dev/mapper/vg_dell45-lv_backup /backup /dev/mapper/vg_dell45-lv_boot /boot /dev/mapper/vg_dell45-lv_home/home so i assume in order to see the drive in the usb bay on the new system, i'd mount the drive/partitions using the dir or devicename which would then get the actual partition/drive contents. I think you've probably got your answer, by now. But for the sake of putting an answer with this thread, mounting LVM partitions requires using the tools for LVM (type lv and hit tab in the command line, then look up instructions for the various lv* commands it finds). This works somewhat differently than mounting ordinary partitions and drives. I'm not aware of a desktop that will let you simply plug in and double-click on an icon to mount a logical volume, like you can with ordinary volumes (flash drives, USB hard drives, etc). -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Use firewall-cmd to filter by MAC address?
Greetings. In a previous version of Fedora I had iptables rules of the form: -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 25 -m mac --mac-source \ AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF -j ACCEPT in order to accept email only from selected local systems. I've just installed Fedora 20, and I'm trying to implement the same kind of thing using: firewall-cmd but I've been unable to figure out how to do this. Any thoughts? Thanks, -- Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: where is skype tray icone on F20?
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:04:42 -0500 Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: I use KDE. How do I integrate Skype into that environment? Temlakos Will KDE allow you to create your own launcher on the Desktop, or whatever taskbar it's uses? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: Seconded. I use keepassx as well. My database is on a VFAT partition on a 1G USB Flash drive I carry with me with a second copy on my Droid phone...just in case I need it. Keepass and friends are worthy alternatives, but AFAIK they aren't usable from phones. I use Lastpass transparently on desktops (Fedora and Mac), tablets (iPad and Android) and my phone (Android). The mobile version costs a whole $12 a year but I decided it made sense for me. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: where is skype tray icone on F20?
On 12/21/2013 05:06 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:04:42 -0500 Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: I use KDE. How do I integrate Skype into that environment? Temlakos Will KDE allow you to create your own launcher on the Desktop, or whatever taskbar it's uses? I haven't found such a facility--not yet, anyway. Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - upgrading to
Dan Mossor wrote: I've been looking for f19-20 upgrade instructions, but I must be blind. Someone can point me to the correct page on the net? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Thanks, seems obvious. It didn't show when searching for it. I obvioiusly fail at searching as well as all the other things I fail at =) No, the wiki is seriously disjointed. Half the time when it finds what it thinks I'm looking for, it is for a release that was EOL'd years ago. That isn't true of the 2 links I gave (including the one above), which explicitly state that they are for Fedora 18 or later. That's one of the huge projects that a few of us in QA are discussing, but we're not sure we want to tackle it ourselves. Perhaps the project would not be so huge if you stuck to cases where the problem actually occurs. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - upgrading to
On 21.12.2013 12:50, Timothy Murphy wrote: Dan Mossor wrote: I've been looking for f19-20 upgrade instructions, but I must be blind. Someone can point me to the correct page on the net? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Thanks, seems obvious. It didn't show when searching for it. I obvioiusly fail at searching as well as all the other things I fail at =) No, the wiki is seriously disjointed. Half the time when it finds what it thinks I'm looking for, it is for a release that was EOL'd years ago. That isn't true of the 2 links I gave (including the one above), which explicitly state that they are for Fedora 18 or later. That's one of the huge projects that a few of us in QA are discussing, but we're not sure we want to tackle it ourselves. Perhaps the project would not be so huge if you stuck to cases where the problem actually occurs. It's easier (for me) to find something on wiki pages using external search engines than following links and searching internally. I'm not saying it's impossible but Fedora's wiki lacks clear content organization. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - upgrading to
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: It's easier (for me) to find something on wiki pages using external search engines than following links and searching internally. I'm not saying it's impossible but Fedora's wiki lacks clear content organization. That may be true in general, but it is not true in this case, as I pointed out. Your argument would be more cogent if you accompanied it with examples where it actually applies. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: encrypted automounting
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 23:30:48 +0100, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I forgot to unchek keep memory of the password when I mounted an encrypted partition. How can I reset it ? Now, every time that the USB key is plugged, then this partition is also mounted! You can use cryptsetup to add and remove luks passphrases. Note that if there are backups of the luks header for that partition, they could potentially be used with the old passphrase to decrypt the file system on partition. There should be a way to unsave the passphrase, but I don't know how to do it. Arguably saving the passphrase by default is a bug. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20 and playing from firefox a Microsoft Media Server (MMS) file
Hello, I installed Fedora 20 on x86_64. I try to access with firefox a radio audio broadcast that was recorded and is on the site now. I see this message: The following plugin is required: Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source. Do you want to search for this now ? I press yes and I get: Failed to search for plugins Could not find plugin in any configured software source Any ideas? what should I do to hear it ? Best regards, Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: encrypted automounting
Manage your keys/passwords using seahorse, or manually backup/remove ~/.local/share/keyrings/* 2013/12/21 Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com Hello, I forgot to unchek keep memory of the password when I mounted an encrypted partition. How can I reset it ? Now, every time that the USB key is plugged, then this partition is also mounted! Thank for your help. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On 12/21/13 17:43, Erik P. Olsen wrote: /etc/default/grub is missing on my newly installed F20. What's replacing its functionality? It is there on mine [egreshko@f20f default]$ ll /etc/default/grub -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 382 Dec 19 06:34 /etc/default/grub -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On 12/20/2013 04:32 PM, David Beveridge wrote: Add the new partition to your volume group # vgextend vg_name /dev/sdb5 What should I enter for vg_name? I am trying to add /dev/sdb4 to /dev/sdb3, at least I think that's what I'm trying to do. [/dev/sdb5 is now /dev/sdb4] # vgextend vg_name /dev/sdb4 It doesn't like vg00 ... I'm stuck on this point. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On 21/12/13 16:25, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/21/13 17:43, Erik P. Olsen wrote: /etc/default/grub is missing on my newly installed F20. What's replacing its functionality? It is there on mine [egreshko@f20f default]$ ll /etc/default/grub -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 382 Dec 19 06:34 /etc/default/grub Weird. To verify I made an F20 installation on a virtual machine and there it was. I'll do another F20 installation to see if it shows up this time. If not I suppose it is hardware related. Maybe anaconda doesn't like bios with uefi turned off. I had no problems with F19 though. -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: where is skype tray icone on F20?
Temlakos wrote: On 12/20/2013 12:50 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/20/2013 11:48 AM, Temlakos wrote: On 12/20/2013 10:44 AM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: hello list The new F20 graphical interface is very good, however, I can't find skype skype icon in the tray. Do you have the same problem? Any solution? regards Adel The version of Skype I had been running, crashed every time on F20. I downloaded another version from skype.com. That version seems to connect, but it cannot work with my sound device. Though everything else does work with sound. BTW, I don't expect Fedora to work with Skype. The Skype people haven't come out with a new version of their client since F16. Temlakos I haven't test this, but it looks like this may be what you want: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/696/skype-integration/ I use KDE. How do I integrate Skype into that environment? Not sure what you mean by integrate. It works like any other application, and is found in Internet applications menu, $ rpm -q skype skype-4.2.0.11-fc16.i586 $ kbuildsycoca4 --menutest | grep skype ... Internet/ skype.desktop /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop Or, you can enter skype into either the kickoff search, or krunner (ALT- F2). -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
you will need to run pvscan and determine what the name of the vg is you want to add the storage to. to get /dev/sdb5 - /dev/sdb4 you reworked the partition table (ie removed the extend partition and made sdb4 a primary?). if still lost give this info: fdisk -l /dev/sd[ab] pvscan df On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 12/20/2013 04:32 PM, David Beveridge wrote: Add the new partition to your volume group # vgextend vg_name /dev/sdb5 What should I enter for vg_name? I am trying to add /dev/sdb4 to /dev/sdb3, at least I think that's what I'm trying to do. [/dev/sdb5 is now /dev/sdb4] # vgextend vg_name /dev/sdb4 It doesn't like vg00 ... I'm stuck on this point. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 11:25 AM, Roger Heflin wrote: you will need to run pvscan and determine what the name of the vg is you want to add the storage to. to get /dev/sdb5 - /dev/sdb4 you reworked the partition table (ie removed the extend partition and made sdb4 a primary?). if still lost give this info: fdisk -l /dev/sd[ab] pvscan df [root@box10 bobg]# fdisk /dev/sda[Fedora-19 system] Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 232.9 GiB, 2500 bytes, 488281250 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x000b3ca5 DeviceBoot Start EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 2048 1026047512000 83 Linux /dev/sda21026048 488280063 243627008 8e Linux LVM [root@box10 bobg]# fdisk /dev/sdb[Fedora-20 system of interest] Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb: 596.2 GiB, 640135028736 bytes, 1250263728 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: C5B7CE3F-6788-4A3D-B524-16AB72E99EAD Device Start End Size Type /dev/sdb1 2048 4095 1M BIOS boot partition /dev/sdb2 4096 1028095 500M Microsoft basic data /dev/sdb3 1028096121792511 57.6G Linux LVM /dev/sdb4121792512 125000 538G Linux LVM [root@box10 bobg]# pvscan PV /dev/sda2 VG fedora_box10 lvm2 [232.34 GiB / 0free] PV /dev/sdb3 VG fedora_box1000 lvm2 [57.58 GiB / 0free] Total: 2 [289.92 GiB] / in use: 2 [289.92 GiB] / in no VG: 0 [0 ] [root@box10 bobg]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-root 34G 4.5G 27G 15% / devtmpfs 3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /dev tmpfs3.7G 328K 3.7G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs3.7G 916K 3.7G 1% /run tmpfs3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs3.7G 88K 3.7G 1% /tmp /dev/sdb2477M 101M 347M 23% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 17G 7.2G 8.1G 47% /home 192.168.1.8:/home862G 190G 628G 24% /mnt/HOME1 192.168.1.48://SRVR1 635G 54G 549G 9% /mnt/BOX48 One of the failed attempts: [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/lv_root /dev/sdb4 Logical volume lv_root not found in volume group fedora_box1000 Perhaps something will be obvious to you? Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Upgrading from F18
Can I use FedUp to go directly from Fedora 18 to Fedora 20 or do I need to upgrade to F19 first? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20: not mounting swap? Is this a real problem?
When rebooting after this morning's kernel update: --- during shutdown Dec 21 11:17:34 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:17:34 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:17:34 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:17:34 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:17:34 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:17:35 sds-desk-2 systemd: Deactivated swap /dev/sda4. Dec 21 11:17:35 sds-desk-2 systemd: Unit dev-sda4.swap entered failed state. --- system booting Dec 21 11:18:10 sds-desk-2 systemd: Activating swap /dev/sda4... Dec 21 11:18:10 sds-desk-2 swapon: swapon: /dev/sda4: swapon failed: Device or resource busy Dec 21 11:18:10 sds-desk-2 systemd: dev-sda4.swap swap process exited, code=exited status=255 Dec 21 11:18:10 sds-desk-2 systemd: Failed to activate swap /dev/sda4. Dec 21 11:18:10 sds-desk-2 systemd: Unit dev-sda4.swap entered failed state. fstab: UUID=cb50f2fc-5f16-4a1c-8dc5-2bcc76ab5e80 / ext4 defaults1 1 UUID=0e277b24-a6df-4bda-8049-78c1421fef8b /boot ext4 defaults1 2 UUID=D793-D5A6 /boot/efi vfat umask=0077,shortname=winnt 0 0 UUID=d9d62bc1-ea7e-42d1-bf64-f47ea6ac3f2b /home ext4 defaults1 2 UUID=9eb03908-2ae7-405a-bef0-4dd6de071bc0 swapswap defaults0 0 parted -l Model: ATA ST2000DM001-9YN1 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeFile system Name Flags 1 1049kB 211MB 210MB fat16 EFI System Partition boot 2 211MB 735MB 524MB ext4 3 735MB 54.4GB 53.7GB ext4 4 54.4GB 64.8GB 10.4GB linux-swap(v1) 5 64.8GB 2000GB 1936GB ext4 BlockIDs: sudo blkid /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE=msdos UUID=D793-D5A6 TYPE=vfat PARTLABEL=EFI System Partition PARTUUID=dafa04e8-8628-4e28-8aa5-9c0944b90c26 /dev/sda2: UUID=0e277b24-a6df-4bda-8049-78c1421fef8b TYPE=ext4 PARTUUID=c524a1b4-4746-4610-b6de-26ac371a41fc /dev/sda3: LABEL=_Fedora-17-x86_6 UUID=cb50f2fc-5f16-4a1c-8dc5-2bcc76ab5e80 TYPE=ext4 PARTUUID=03f182ef-adf0-4011-907a-11dc57125cb2 /dev/sda4: UUID=9eb03908-2ae7-405a-bef0-4dd6de071bc0 TYPE=swap PARTUUID=4bc40229-f522-4a61-8109-512484db19c9 /dev/sda5: UUID=d9d62bc1-ea7e-42d1-bf64-f47ea6ac3f2b TYPE=ext4 PARTUUID=7b2e9d0d-d394-4e1e-9fbf-6cb2aaf302e9 From the command line, swapon and swapoff appear to function normally and without error -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Upgrading from F18
Hi On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Aldrich wrote: Can I use FedUp to go directly from Fedora 18 to Fedora 20 or do I need to upgrade to F19 first? fedup can be used for a direct upgrade Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
wireless issue in F20
I just installed F20 KDE spin on my home laptop and am noticing a change in the NetworkManager. The issue is this: Local networks are discovered without a problem Initial connection occurs without a problem However... If the connection is dropped (the most common reason at home is that my wife turns on the microwave), the connection cannot be re-established (once she turns the damn thing off). The network is discovered just fine, but it neither connects automatically nor if I hit the Connect button. If, on the other hand, rather than having the network fail, I simply hit disconnect and then connect, it connects just fine. The workaround is easy -- if I turn off networking and wireless and turn it back on, it then connects again (until it disconnects again). Oddly, nothing is getting written in /var/log/messages -- where all the networkmanager stuff was being written in f19. I'm not sure where the .conf file is get it to start writing to /var/log... So, two questions: 1) Anybody know what's going on? 2) Where do I find the .conf file to start getting debug messages in /var/log? As an aside, I haven't set up virtualization yet, so there's no virt1, just em1, lo, and wlo1. Thanks for any pointers. billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing. [SOLVED]
On 21/12/13 16:48, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 21/12/13 16:25, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/21/13 17:43, Erik P. Olsen wrote: /etc/default/grub is missing on my newly installed F20. What's replacing its functionality? It is there on mine [egreshko@f20f default]$ ll /etc/default/grub -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 382 Dec 19 06:34 /etc/default/grub Weird. To verify I made an F20 installation on a virtual machine and there it was. I'll do another F20 installation to see if it shows up this time. If not I suppose it is hardware related. Maybe anaconda doesn't like bios with uefi turned off. I had no problems with F19 though. OK, this new F20 system (the third) produced the missing file! -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: /etc/default/grub is missing on my newly installed F20. What's replacing its functionality? This file is created by anaconda BIOS and UEFI computers. It's not created if the install boot loader option is disabled in the installer, and there is a long convoluted RFE in RHBZ (maybe there's a short one, but if not one needs to be created) to create this file even if the install boot loader option is disabled. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: not mounting swap? Is this a real problem?
On Dec 21, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: Dec 21 11:17:35 sds-desk-2 systemd: Unit dev-sda4.swap entered failed state. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#Error_messages_about_swap_activation_if_swap_is_on_a_plain_partition_on_a_GPT_disk Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On Dec 21, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Roger Heflin rogerhef...@gmail.com wrote: you will need to run pvscan and determine what the name of the vg is you want to add the storage to. to get /dev/sdb5 - /dev/sdb4 you reworked the partition table (ie removed the extend partition and made sdb4 a primary?). /dev/sdb is a gpt disk. There's no distinction between primary and extended partitions, there are just partitions, up to 128 of them. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Help! Killed nautilus
I think I did a cntl x to kill it; any ideas on what I can do to get it running again? Here's what I get: $ nautilus Could not register the application: Timeout was reached I'm on f20, and since it has been released, I assume that I write on this list rather than test Thanks, Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: [solved] scp question
12/21/2013 09:00 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi everybody, I'm trying to automate a box to box backup. When I run the scp command from the command line it uses my public/private key pair and everything works well but if I execute the same command from a cron job the receiving end reports, Failed password Why does CLI use keys but the script use passwords? Here is the command: scp -r /home/mike/Backup/mysql 192.168.4.70:/home/mike/Backup OK. For some reason scp needs to be told explicitly which key set to use. This is done using the -i switch: scp -r -i /home/mike/.ssh/sql_rsa ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Connection fails F19-F20 Rsync
After doing a fedup upgrade from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 the Fedora 19 systems are not able to rsync to the Fedora 20 system. If you do: rsync host:: You get: rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (104) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(764) [Receiver=3.0.9] If you do it to its self it works fine. We have stopped iptables on both sides, looked for selinux avc errors. We have wiresharked and the hosts are exchanging packets on port 873. In looking at the RPM change log for rsync we see that the compression has been changed. Could that somehow cause this failure? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: not mounting swap? Is this a real problem?
On 12/21/2013 12:45 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: Dec 21 11:17:35 sds-desk-2 systemd: Unit dev-sda4.swap entered failed state. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#Error_messages_about_swap_activation_if_swap_is_on_a_plain_partition_on_a_GPT_disk Chris Murphy Thanks! -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On 21/12/13 19:44, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: I'll do another F20 installation to see if it shows up this time. If not I suppose it is hardware related. Maybe anaconda doesn't like bios with uefi turned off. I had no problems with F19 though. I forget if it's still possible to disable the install boot loader feature on UEFI. It's a meaningless option, except that /etc/default/grub will not be created. grub2-efi is still installed, shim.efi is still installed, and you do in fact still get a boot loader installed on UEFI systems regardless of this option. And I think there's a RHBZ on this issue also, but I don't know if that's been implemented in F20. I don't think there is an option to disable boot loader feature (or rather I haven't found it :-) The bios of my system is uefi capable but I have disabled it. Anyhow my last F20 build did produce /etc/default/grup even though I didn't make any change to the installation procedure. But I did use netinst so some changes may have come in this way. -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade
We upgraded a test system to Fedora 20 using the fedup process. There were 60 packages that were left from Fedora 19 after the upgrade that were subsequently fixed by doing a yum distro-sync. Since the upgrade we are not able to login into a Gnome session. We select the user in the greater and it prompts for the pass word. After that it goes to the grayed background and hangs leaving the user session in a hung state where you have cursor control but the session setup does not get to the point where you can select anything. We have checked the logs and see nothing in the logs that indicate an issue. The other change noticed is the monitor never goes to sleep when the greater screen is active. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: It is installed in less than 60 GiB's which leaves the rest of the drive unused, not what I wanted. I guess it preserved a /home partition for me? I certainly didn't want it to take up the remainder of the drive. I've been looking at man pages and googling and fixing this may be simple but I am having a lot of trouble understanding what needs to be done. Is there a clear step by step set of instructions for fixing this? No, I doubt you'll get any install to LVM by default proponent to actually produce a custom step by step for you, even though they succeeded at getting a reversal to the installer team's decision dropping LVM by default. And it was dropped for the very reason exemplified in this thread: it's overly complicated. The easiest step by step for you is to start over rather than waiting for someone who thinks LVM is easy, intuitive, flexible, and ideal for hapless users being subjected to it by default. But before you start over, questions: Based on the /dev/sdb layout it seems you used custom/manual partitioning in the installer, and created all of these mount points manually, is that correct? If so why not use Guided partitioning with either partition scheme set to LVM or Standard Partitioning? It seems you'd have ended up with what you wanted: ~54GB for root ~577GB for home The rest for boot and swap. That seems reasonable. If you have other requirements please be specific what you want the various sizes to be? Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Connection fails F19-F20 Rsync
David Highley wrote: After doing a fedup upgrade from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 the Fedora 19 systems are not able to rsync to the Fedora 20 system. If you do: rsync host:: You get: rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (104) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(764) [Receiver=3.0.9] If you do it to its self it works fine. We have stopped iptables on both sides, looked for selinux avc errors. We have wiresharked and the hosts are exchanging packets on port 873. In looking at the RPM change log for rsync we see that the compression has been changed. Could that somehow cause this failure? We did forget the most important part. The reverse direction rsync F19-F20 does work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 02:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Based on the /dev/sdb layout it seems you used custom/manual partitioning in the installer, and created all of these mount points manually, is that correct? If so why not use Guided partitioning with either partition scheme set to LVM or Standard Partitioning? It seems you'd have ended up with what you wanted: I may have foolishly checked somewhere that offered to keep /home but other than that the install was plain vanilla from the DVD iso, XFCE rather than Gnome, via a usb flash stick. When I get around to fixing this mess I will eliminate LVM, it's an added layer of complexity that buys me nothing. Ok when it works but ... Fixing means a re-install. I have become quite adept at configuring Fedora/XFCE my way as many times as I have done it. So far, counting beta, Fedora 20 three times. I even had the alpha version for a short time on one box. -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
openssl and NSA backdoor
Hi all, After Edward Snowden spilled the beans on the NSA I've become extremely paranoid about system security. If not the NSA, who else? I've been trying to find out if the versions of openssl shipped by fedora use the Dual Elliptical Curve encryption method that RSA so politely (for a tidy $um) made default at the request of the US's NSA. That is the encryption method with the NSA's very own backdoor. If so, has it been corrected? Is openssl even safe to use anymore? What about previous versions of fedora? And what about our certificates? Are they more or less useless now? Where do we go from here? If anybody is up on security I think we'd all like to know what is going on here esp. re fedora. Thanks *very* much for any help on this, Mike Wright ps. for spit and giggles maybe everybody ought to take all their non-private email and CC them to the NSA. That will give them something else to do with their time besides wiping their butts on the constitution. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
ipv6 breakage
IPv6 under f20, f19 and f18 has been rock solid for me this past year. Now in, the last few days, yum updates have brought some lossage that requires a periodic reboot to get IPv6 connections to the internet back. I can't immediately see what the problem is. The outward-facing interface still has the same IPv6 address it has had for many months. The ipv6 default route still points out internet-facing interface. ip -6 neigh show shows only STALE and FAILED transactions. Seems like one of the latest yum updates pooched the neighbor discovery stuff. [wolfgang@arbol ~]$ ip -6 neigh show fe80::201:5cff:fe32:7741 dev p32p1 lladdr 00:01:5c:32:77:41 router REACHABLE fe80::a60:6eff:fe74:6fe2 dev p34p1 lladdr 08:60:6e:74:6f:e2 router STALE fe80::20a:cdff:fe21:7513 dev p32p1 router FAILED fe80::1 dev p34p1 lladdr 44:94:fc:73:cf:43 router STALE 2001:558:6045:22:4c99:1c47:4456:b031 dev p32p1 FAILED 2601:9:a00:1f:9221:55ff:fe66:1b5 dev p34p1 lladdr 90:21:55:66:01:b5 STALE fe80::4694:fcff:fe73:cf44 dev p34p1 FAILED fe80::9221:55ff:fe66:1b5 dev p34p1 lladdr 90:21:55:66:01:b5 STALE (p32p1 is the outside, internet-facing interface, p34p1 is the inside local lan-facing interface) Is anyone else seeing this? Surely I'm not the only one running f20 on ipv6. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: One of the failed attempts: [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/lv_root /dev/sdb4 Logical volume lv_root not found in volume group fedora_box1000 Perhaps something will be obvious to you? You also need to to an lvscan to find the names of the logical volumes. so it should be /dev/volume_group_name/logical_volume_name -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 12/21/2013 02:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Based on the /dev/sdb layout it seems you used custom/manual partitioning in the installer, and created all of these mount points manually, is that correct? If so why not use Guided partitioning with either partition scheme set to LVM or Standard Partitioning? It seems you'd have ended up with what you wanted: I may have foolishly checked somewhere that offered to keep /home. I don't see any evidence of an existing home on /dev/sdb. And it's also not mounted in your df report. Can you report the output from the command lvs? Did you want to preserve the existing /home on /dev/sda perhaps? Manual Partitioning does allow you to find a previous installation's /home, and you can choose to keep it by setting it as a mount point at /home. And then deleting everything else. But that would have gotten you what you wanted. Yet you're reporting you don't have the layout you want. So there definitely was a miscommunication between user and installer. It's actually quite a valid point, that the Guided path doesn't have a mechanism at all to preserve an existing /home. And yet a separate /home partition (or LV) is the default installation layout for Fedora. Considering all of the mind boggling esoteric things it can do, I think this is much more basic, to help users preserve /home. All it needs to do is merely add it to /etc/fstab, and if encrypted to crypttab also. Not rocket science, yet a big benefit. I think an admitted weakness of the new installer interface is that it doesn't take existing installations into account as much as assuming new installations. When I get around to fixing this mess I will eliminate LVM, it's an added layer of complexity that buys me nothing. Ok when it works but ... Fixing means a re-install. Or really esoteric knowledge. At a minimum you need to made sdb4 a PV, and then add the PV to the existing VG, and then either create a new LV or resize an existing /home LV if it exists. And then create or resize an ext4 volume, which itself is a multistep process. And then possibly modify fstab to account for the new LV /home if it doesn't exist, and further figure out how to copy any data from a rootfs /home to the new LV /home. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/12/13 19:44, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: I'll do another F20 installation to see if it shows up this time. If not I suppose it is hardware related. Maybe anaconda doesn't like bios with uefi turned off. I had no problems with F19 though. I forget if it's still possible to disable the install boot loader feature on UEFI. It's a meaningless option, except that /etc/default/grub will not be created. grub2-efi is still installed, shim.efi is still installed, and you do in fact still get a boot loader installed on UEFI systems regardless of this option. And I think there's a RHBZ on this issue also, but I don't know if that's been implemented in F20. I don't think there is an option to disable boot loader feature (or rather I haven't found it :-) Installation Destination, bottom page click on Full disk summary and bootloader, you get this dialog: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/ssanacondanobootldr.png Click on the device, then click button Do not installer bootloader. The bios of my system is uefi capable but I have disabled it. It's the manufacturer's confusing us royally, and unnecessarily. Your computer is UEFI it has no BIOS really. The option to disable UEFI in the interface actually *enables a CSM, an EFI Compatibility Support Module. It presents a BIOS interface for the operating system and it's a legacy feature meant to support operating systems that don't understand UEFI firmware. It's kinda like BIOS emulation. But the computer is UEFI and it can't be disabled, unlike what the UI suggests. You're almost certainly better off having installed Fedora with UEFI enabled which means CSM disabled. But if it's working I'd probably leave it alone, unless it's a laptop that you regularly use as a mobile (not plugged into power) device. Anyhow my last F20 build did produce /etc/default/grup even though I didn't make any change to the installation procedure. But I did use netinst so some changes may have come in this way. It would be good to track this down if you can reproduce it. Save the /tmp/program.log from the install environment, or the /var/log/anaconda.program.log from the post-installed system, it might give a hint why this wasn't created. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Faith based partitioning...
The unfortunate fact in all of this is that the old GUI for the old anaconda was just fine and exactly what you would expect. I find it particularly galling that a new partition can no longer fill all available space (as used to be avalable) for instance and we have to type some value in the hope that it will be accepted (it is not always). As an example, I had 14 GB left for my root and no matter what number I typed, the partitioning took it to be set at 10GB. Not clear where this came from. The partitioning itself continues to be counterintuitive: you select a disk to install in, and then click done after which the option of doing a custom partition may show up. I can go on and on: the old anaconda interface was so much better and (in summary so much) faster! Ranjan On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 13:27:43 -0700 Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I see the partitioning interface still hasn't improved in f20. You still simply must go on faith that you might be allowed to make the changes you want sometime after you press a button labeled Done. I forget the rationalization for Done coming after the choice of device to install to. Clearly we aren't done with the installation destination spoke, which includes all of guided and custom partitioning paths. The Done button has been a thorn in my side UI wise since inception but all I ever got was ridiculously bad examples of how such upper left UI is used in other programs, which don't also split their navigation UI, or clutter the upper left with other text or UI elements. But it's really an ordinary example of bad UI, i.e. it's not especially bad. I've been installing several different distros in virtual machines recently, for an example of a near perfect interface I'd point you to opensuse (I don't really like opensuse much, but the partitioning interface is close to flawless). Short learning curve, but overly complicated Btrfs layout with a large pile of subvolumes. Maybe other layouts are similar I'm not sure. This is necessarily a challenge for any really capable installer. Does opensuse's installer let you create bootable raid 0, 1, 10, 5 and 6? Does it do bootable LVM on raid? Or bootable LVM on raid on LUKS? Anaconda does. It's massively complex. The Guided partition path alone, with a simple unidirectional (no reversal) test matrix of not fewer than 80 tests. And a bulk of those are repeated for every test compose and release candidate. It's a lot of testing and is maybe 1% of what the installer can do. Custom partitioning is so massively complex that I don't think it should be in the installer at all. Windows and OS X installers are brain dead simple because they have essentially no options at all. The volume is supposed to be preformatted and empty, you point the installer to it and it installs. Windows does have a rudimentary partitioning tool integrated in their installer, and a way to reformat partitions. OS X doesn't, you have to use a separate tool, including preparation of bootable RAID1 setups. I think it's challenging to imagine how custom partitioning gets much better when it creates complex storage layouts for installation of an OS only, rather than general purpose create and modify. And also it's also effectively only an RHEL/Fedora tool. Instead of relying on faith, it shows you exactly what it would do in a summary at the top of the screen and has checkboxes for the most common things you'd want to change (separate /home or not, etc). As you click the checkboxes, you see exactly what the partitioning will look like in the summary at the top. No faith required. The idea in anaconda's custom partitioning is that you're directly modifying what you're calling the summary in opensuse. The things you create in anaconda's custom partitioner aren't even partitions, they're mount points. So Manual Partitioning is actually weirdly named. You first specify mount points, and then how they get created rather than the reverse. A big part of the challenge is that most people who use custom partitioners don't think in terms of top level mount points until they've built what they want from the ground up. Anaconda is top down to the degree that the lowest part of the stack, the physical block device, is quite a hidden feature and isn't intended the user needs to choose which physical devices the parts appear on. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on
Re: Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade
On 21.12.2013 20:40, David Highley wrote: We upgraded a test system to Fedora 20 using the fedup process. There were 60 packages that were left from Fedora 19 after the upgrade that were subsequently fixed by doing a yum distro-sync. Since the upgrade we are not able to login into a Gnome session. We select the user in the greater and it prompts for the pass word. After that it goes to the grayed background and hangs leaving the user session in a hung state where you have cursor control but the session setup does not get to the point where you can select anything. We have checked the logs and see nothing in the logs that indicate an issue. The other change noticed is the monitor never goes to sleep when the greater screen is active. Does systemctl restart gdm.service from text shell help you restore system responsiveness? It might be some problem with gnome-shell or Xorg, I'm facing similar behavior from time to time on fresh installation. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Just got my Crucial M500
On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: but, it was advertised as 256GB, and on the packaging it says 240GB. 240GiB is actually 257GB. So report the results from lsblk. It reports in GiB. My Samsung 830 reports 256060514304 bytes, which is 256.1GB, or 238GB. Then I put it on a SATA USB adapter and look at it with the Disks utility. It reports 240GB. I'm pretty sure Gnome Disks reports in GB, not GiB. Either the discrepancy is GiB vs GB, or it's accounting for overprovisioning. Presumably somewhere on the box or documentation they say this, or I think they'd get into trouble for false advertising and this isn't their first day at the rodeo when it comes to that so it seems doubtful they'd want to do it all over again. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
rkhunter - output
Hi. Ran rkhunter on a system a few days ago, and got no warnings on the files/rootkits. Just ran rkhunter again on the same box, and I get a bunch of warnings on the files, but again, no warning/alerts regarding the potential rootkits. In looking over sites/information on rkhunter, i'm not sure what this means! thoughts/comments?? thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: reading/copying a drive??
On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I'm not aware of a desktop that will let you simply plug in and double-click on an icon to mount a logical volume, like you can with ordinary volumes (flash drives, USB hard drives, etc). Gnome Shell does this by default. It will show an LV icon in Files, and if you click it, it will be mounted at /run/media/username/volumeuuid and appear in gnome-shell. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
you will need a vgextend first something like vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 that will add the disk to the vg. the df shows these 2 are mounted: /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-roo t 34G 4.5G 27G 15% / /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 17G 7.2G 8.1G 47% /home so either /dev/fedora_box1000/home or /dev/fedora_box1000/root will need to be extended, you can also use the names shown in the df commands...all of the different names point to the same underlying device. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM, David Beveridge bevh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: One of the failed attempts: [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/lv_root /dev/sdb4 Logical volume lv_root not found in volume group fedora_box1000 Perhaps something will be obvious to you? You also need to to an lvscan to find the names of the logical volumes. so it should be /dev/volume_group_name/logical_volume_name -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Faith based partitioning...
On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: The unfortunate fact in all of this is that the old GUI for the old anaconda was just fine and exactly what you would expect. I find it particularly galling that a new partition can no longer fill all available space If this is the last mount point you create, it's made as large as possible by not entering in a size value. Or you can enter a value greater than the value reported as Available Space in the magenta box, lower left corner. (as used to be avalable) for instance and we have to type some value in the hope that it will be accepted (it is not always). As an example, I had 14 GB left for my root and no matter what number I typed, the partitioning took it to be set at 10GB. Probably because it wasn't a contiguous 14GB. I've not recently (since F18) seen it fail to allocate what you ask for, if it's contiguously available. The available space amount shows all unallocated space, including non-contiguous space. So it's possible for that value to be greater than the largest possible size for a regular partition. That's why for standard partitions, fill all available space is a misleading choice and it's best it's gone. Hypothetically, non-contiguous portions could each be made PVs, added to a VG, and then you could make an LV of any size up to the maximum truly available since LVM can use non-continguous extents since it presents them as contiguous to the file system. But in practice, the installer won't actually create such a layout, and that's probably a good idea also because even though it can be done, it's complicated and thwarts the allocation mechanism of the file system, better to just fix the problematic existing layout. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Faith based partitioning...
On 12/21/2013 12:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The Done button has been a thorn in my side UI wise since inception but all I ever got was ridiculously bad examples of how such upper left UI is used in other programs, which don't also split their navigation UI, or clutter the upper left with other text or UI elements. But it's really an ordinary example of bad UI, i.e. it's not especially bad. Herd mentality. Everybody else does it that way, so we have to follow them, never asking if it's right or not. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need hlep with LVM -
On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Roger Heflin rogerhef...@gmail.com wrote: you will need a vgextend first something like vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 that will add the disk to the vg. pvcreate first, then vgextend to add. /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 17G 7.2G 8.1G 47% /home Oops, you're right, there it is. so either /dev/fedora_box1000/home or /dev/fedora_box1000/root will need to be extended, you can also use the names shown in the df commands… And then lvresize for one or both of those to get the size he wants them. And then resize2fs to resize the file systems. But I think he didn't want a new /home on /dev/sdb, I think he wanted the /home he had on /dev/sda but I could be mistaken. I'm not clear on the exact final layout the OP wants. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On 21/12/13 21:53, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/12/13 19:44, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: I'll do another F20 installation to see if it shows up this time. If not I suppose it is hardware related. Maybe anaconda doesn't like bios with uefi turned off. I had no problems with F19 though. I forget if it's still possible to disable the install boot loader feature on UEFI. It's a meaningless option, except that /etc/default/grub will not be created. grub2-efi is still installed, shim.efi is still installed, and you do in fact still get a boot loader installed on UEFI systems regardless of this option. And I think there's a RHBZ on this issue also, but I don't know if that's been implemented in F20. I don't think there is an option to disable boot loader feature (or rather I haven't found it :-) Installation Destination, bottom page click on Full disk summary and bootloader, you get this dialog: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/ssanacondanobootldr.png Click on the device, then click button Do not installer bootloader. I never saw this. It said just Set as boot device and I never clicked on the device, just closed the window and Done. The bios of my system is uefi capable but I have disabled it. It's the manufacturer's confusing us royally, and unnecessarily. Your computer is UEFI it has no BIOS really. The option to disable UEFI in the interface actually *enables a CSM, an EFI Compatibility Support Module. It presents a BIOS interface for the operating system and it's a legacy feature meant to support operating systems that don't understand UEFI firmware. It's kinda like BIOS emulation. But the computer is UEFI and it can't be disabled, unlike what the UI suggests. You're almost certainly better off having installed Fedora with UEFI enabled which means CSM disabled. But if it's working I'd probably leave it alone, unless it's a laptop that you regularly use as a mobile (not plugged into power) device. Thanks for the insight into this matter. It is actually a laptop that I use as mobile device. Why is it that UEFI enabled is better in this situation? Power? Anyhow my last F20 build did produce /etc/default/grup even though I didn't make any change to the installation procedure. But I did use netinst so some changes may have come in this way. It would be good to track this down if you can reproduce it. Save the /tmp/program.log from the install environment, or the /var/log/anaconda.program.log from the post-installed system, it might give a hint why this wasn't created. I doubt that I can reproduce it now that it apparently works. But I'll try a few system build to see if I can. -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 21.12.2013 20:40, David Highley wrote: We upgraded a test system to Fedora 20 using the fedup process. There were 60 packages that were left from Fedora 19 after the upgrade that were subsequently fixed by doing a yum distro-sync. Since the upgrade we are not able to login into a Gnome session. We select the user in the greater and it prompts for the pass word. After that it goes to the grayed background and hangs leaving the user session in a hung state where you have cursor control but the session setup does not get to the point where you can select anything. We have checked the logs and see nothing in the logs that indicate an issue. The other change noticed is the monitor never goes to sleep when the greater screen is active. Does systemctl restart gdm.service from text shell help you restore system responsiveness? It might be some problem with gnome-shell or Xorg, I'm facing similar behavior from time to time on fresh installation. Same recovery as doing init 3 init 5 you get back to the Gnome greater screen with the session ended. We have looked at the Xorg log files and see nothing wrong in them. Our case is not intermittent. We have tried both VGA and HDMI connections and get the same results. We have also reviewed dmesg and the /var/log/message log files. Nothing seems to get logged. We have checked for selinux avc issues and tried login in selinux Permissive mode. Second check just now indicates that a systemctl restart gdm.service gets us back to the Gnome greater screen but then we were not able to select a user for login. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Question: any problems if apply only security updates.
Hello, I was wondering if my fedora system later in time will have any repercussions, if I only apply the security updates and not the entire updates from the catalog, by using the yum --security update command? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 04:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Roger Heflin rogerhef...@gmail.com wrote: you will need a vgextend first something like vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 that will add the disk to the vg. pvcreate first, then vgextend to add. /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 17G 7.2G 8.1G 47% /home Oops, you're right, there it is. I did that earlier today: [root@box10 bobg]# vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 Physical volume '/dev/sdb4' is already in volume group 'fedora_box1000' Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sdb4' to volume group 'fedora_box1000' so either /dev/fedora_box1000/home or /dev/fedora_box1000/root will need to be extended, you can also use the names shown in the df commands… [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/lv_root /dev/sdb4 Logical volume lv_root not found in volume group fedora_box1000 Not sure what it wants here, it did not accept anything I have tried. And then lvresize for one or both of those to get the size he wants them. And then resize2fs to resize the file systems. But I think he didn't want a new /home on /dev/sdb, I think he wanted the /home he had on /dev/sda but I could be mistaken. I'm not clear on the exact final layout the OP wants. I want to continue using the /home on /dev/sdb. All I want is to include all of the remaining space as part of /home. The other home is on .dev/sda and is part of an Fedora-19 system. Don't want that. It had tried to preserve /home from F-20 beta but I believe I've deleted that, don't want it.. Chris Murphy -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
You did not use pvcreate on sdb4 before using vgextend. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
it just wnats /dev/fedora_box1000/root or /dev/fedora_box1000/home the lv_ is not in the name of the lv. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 12/21/2013 04:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Roger Heflin rogerhef...@gmail.com wrote: you will need a vgextend first something like vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 that will add the disk to the vg. pvcreate first, then vgextend to add. /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 17G 7.2G 8.1G 47% /home Oops, you're right, there it is. I did that earlier today: [root@box10 bobg]# vgextend fedora_box1000 /dev/sdb4 Physical volume '/dev/sdb4' is already in volume group 'fedora_box1000' Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sdb4' to volume group 'fedora_box1000' so either /dev/fedora_box1000/home or /dev/fedora_box1000/root will need to be extended, you can also use the names shown in the df commands… [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/lv_root /dev/sdb4 Logical volume lv_root not found in volume group fedora_box1000 Not sure what it wants here, it did not accept anything I have tried. And then lvresize for one or both of those to get the size he wants them. And then resize2fs to resize the file systems. But I think he didn't want a new /home on /dev/sdb, I think he wanted the /home he had on /dev/sda but I could be mistaken. I'm not clear on the exact final layout the OP wants. I want to continue using the /home on /dev/sdb. All I want is to include all of the remaining space as part of /home. The other home is on .dev/sda and is part of an Fedora-19 system. Don't want that. It had tried to preserve /home from F-20 beta but I believe I've deleted that, don't want it.. Chris Murphy -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: [solved] scp question
On 21Dec2013 11:08, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: 12/21/2013 09:00 AM, Mike Wright wrote: I'm trying to automate a box to box backup. When I run the scp command from the command line it uses my public/private key pair and everything works well I would guess: via an ssh-agent? but if I execute the same command from a cron job the receiving end reports, Failed password Why does CLI use keys but the script use passwords? Here is the command: scp -r /home/mike/Backup/mysql 192.168.4.70:/home/mike/Backup OK. For some reason scp needs to be told explicitly which key set to use. This is done using the -i switch: scp -r -i /home/mike/.ssh/sql_rsa ... Only if the key does not have the default name id_rsa. Alternatively you can make a .ssh/config clause to specify the name, eg: Host backups Hostname 192.168.4.70 IdentityFile ~/.ssh/sql_rsa Then: scp -r -i /home/mike/Backup/mysql backups:/home/mike/Backup Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au Last month, my alumni/ae association sent out a questionnaire. One of the questions they asked was my/my household's annual income. The choices were: (a) Less than $25,000, (b) $25,001-50,000, (c) $50,001-100,000, (d) $100,001-250,000, (e) $250,001-500,000, (f) $500,001-1,000,000, (g) $1,000,000 or more. Yeah, right. Nice median. - Dan Hillman, dcah...@cus.cam.ac.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 05:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: You did not use pvcreate on sdb4 before using vgextend. Chris Murphy After using fdisk to change the type to LVM I ran: pvcreate /dev/sdb4 Did that yesterday. -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter - output
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 16:03 -0500, bruce wrote: Hi. Ran rkhunter on a system a few days ago, and got no warnings on the files/rootkits. Just ran rkhunter again on the same box, and I get a bunch of warnings on the files, but again, no warning/alerts regarding the potential rootkits. What warnings? What was the output from rkhunter - warnings only not the whole thing. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: openssl and NSA backdoor
On 12/22/2013 07:05 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, After Edward Snowden spilled the beans on the NSA I've become extremely paranoid about system security. If not the NSA, who else? I've been trying to find out if the versions of openssl shipped by fedora use the Dual Elliptical Curve encryption method that RSA so politely (for a tidy $um) made default at the request of the US's NSA. That is the encryption method with the NSA's very own backdoor. If so, has it been corrected? Is openssl even safe to use anymore? What about previous versions of fedora? And what about our certificates? Are they more or less useless now? Where do we go from here? If anybody is up on security I think we'd all like to know what is going on here esp. re fedora. Thanks *very* much for any help on this, Mike Wright ps. for spit and giggles maybe everybody ought to take all their non-private email and CC them to the NSA. That will give them something else to do with their time besides wiping their butts on the constitution. Not so funny thing for me is: When I was helping convert a religious site in the USA to Russian language my email system at bigpond.com eventually had a chronic backlog of emails and could send and receive no more. Translators and reviewers kept getting email return notices that my bigpond email box was full, even though it had no emails in it and bigpond could find no problems. Security advice was that I was and still have all my email addresses monitored. I hope they like the Linux chat and other bland conversations. I think, now that bigpond have gone over to windows server, it'll be far easier to infiltrate, oops, I mean keep tabs on things. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 05:21 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: it just wnats /dev/fedora_box1000/root or /dev/fedora_box1000/home the lv_ is not in the name of the lv. Eureka! That's the name I needed. [root@box10 bobg]# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/fedora_box1000/home /dev/sdb4 Extending logical volume home to 554.43 GiB Logical volume home successfully resized Thank you Roger -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: where is skype tray icone on F20? [SOLVED]
On 12/20/2013 12:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Temlakos wrote: That version seems to connect, but it cannot work with my sound device. Though everything else does work with sound. This is a bug in Skype Refer to http://arunraghavan.net/2013/08/pulseaudio-4-0-and-skype/ for a workaround Rahul In the file /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop, I changed the line Exec=skype %U to: Exec=env PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 skype %U Now Skype will work properly with PulseAudio 4.0. Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need help with LVM -
On 12/21/2013 05:21 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: it just wnats /dev/fedora_box1000/root or /dev/fedora_box1000/home the lv_ is not in the name of the lv. Thanks to everyone in this thread for your invaluable help. It looks like I am finally where I need to be with this LVM, maybe I wont have to re-install after all. [bobg@box10 ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-root 34G 4.5G 27G 15% / devtmpfs 3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /dev tmpfs3.7G 68K 3.7G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs3.7G 912K 3.7G 1% /run tmpfs3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs3.7G 16K 3.7G 1% /tmp /dev/sdb2477M 101M 347M 23% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_box1000-home 546G 7.2G 517G 2% /home 192.168.1.8:/home862G 190G 628G 24% /mnt/HOME1 192.168.1.48://SRVR1 635G 54G 549G 9% /mnt/BOX48 /home now resides on the remainder of the disk which is what I expected the installer to do. What went wrong I don't know, but I felt confident when I did the install that I had it all right? Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod Box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade
On 21.12.2013 22:50, David Highley wrote: Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 21.12.2013 20:40, David Highley wrote: We upgraded a test system to Fedora 20 using the fedup process. There were 60 packages that were left from Fedora 19 after the upgrade that were subsequently fixed by doing a yum distro-sync. Since the upgrade we are not able to login into a Gnome session. We select the user in the greater and it prompts for the pass word. After that it goes to the grayed background and hangs leaving the user session in a hung state where you have cursor control but the session setup does not get to the point where you can select anything. We have checked the logs and see nothing in the logs that indicate an issue. The other change noticed is the monitor never goes to sleep when the greater screen is active. Does systemctl restart gdm.service from text shell help you restore system responsiveness? It might be some problem with gnome-shell or Xorg, I'm facing similar behavior from time to time on fresh installation. Same recovery as doing init 3 init 5 you get back to the Gnome greater screen with the session ended. We have looked at the Xorg log files and see nothing wrong in them. Our case is not intermittent. We have tried both VGA and HDMI connections and get the same results. We have also reviewed dmesg and the /var/log/message log files. Nothing seems to get logged. We have checked for selinux avc issues and tried login in selinux Permissive mode. Second check just now indicates that a systemctl restart gdm.service gets us back to the Gnome greater screen but then we were not able to select a user for login. Don't bother searching in logs. It's very likely that you won't find anything there because failing piece of code is part of gnome-shell and is written in Java Script. I don't see any references to logging facilities in that code. If you have enough time and spare resources you can take a look at https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/ . This issue might be hard to resolve. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Question: any problems if apply only security updates.
On 21.12.2013 23:06, Edward M wrote: Hello, I was wondering if my fedora system later in time will have any repercussions, if I only apply the security updates and not the entire updates from the catalog, by using the yum --security update command? Besides that you won't get any non security bug fixes and enhancements there are no other side effects. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the insight into this matter. It is actually a laptop that I use as mobile device. Why is it that UEFI enabled is better in this situation? Power? Yes. ACPI and AHCI are sometimes not native. Most of the CSM-BIOS mode booted systems I've seen have more limited battery life, and fast SATA drives like SSDs are in IDE mode so they're also quite a bit slower. But this varies on the CSM implementation. It's not a linux thing, so you just have to test it. Also, if the laptop has dual graphics, like Intel integrated graphics and also discrete graphics, then UEFI mode boots tend to activate both, causing neither to work. So you have to figure out how to disable one of them with a modeset kernel parameter option. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: openssl and NSA backdoor
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.comwrote: 've been trying to find out if the versions of openssl shipped by fedora use the Dual Elliptical Curve encryption method that RSA so politely (for a tidy $um) made default at the request of the US's NSA. That is the encryption method with the NSA's very own backdoor. If so, has it been corrected? Is openssl even safe to use anymore? What about previous versions of fedora? From http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/report-nsa-paid-rsa-to-make-flawed-crypto-algorithm-the-default/ The Dual_EC_DRBG algorithm is included in the NIST-approved crypto standard SP 800-90 and has been viewed with suspicion since shortly after its inclusion in the 2006 specification. In 2007, researchers from Microsoft showed that the algorithm could be backdoored: if certain relationships between numbers included within the algorithm were known to an attacker, then that attacker could predict all the numbers generated by the algorithm. These suspicions of backdooring seemed to be confirmed this September with the news that the National Security Agency had worked to undermine crypto standardshttp://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/the-nsas-work-to-make-crypto-worse-and-better/. The impact of this backdooring seemed low. The 2007 research, combined with Dual_EC_DRBG's poor performance, meant that the algorithm was largely ignored. Most software didn't implement it, and the software that did generally didn't use it. Other commentators say pretty much the same thing. The Dual_EC_DRBG algorithm was viewed with suspicion from the start, and besides was very slow, so most crypto software doesn't implement it. An exception is RSA's own Bsafe product, but as that's nonfree it wouldn't be part of Fedora anyway. It would nevertheless be good to have a statement about this from a Fedora authority. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: openssl and NSA backdoor
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: I've been trying to find out if the versions of openssl shipped by fedora use the Dual Elliptical Curve encryption method that RSA so politely (for a tidy $um) made default at the request of the US's NSA. That is the encryption method with the NSA's very own backdoor. If so, has it been corrected? Is openssl even safe to use anymore? What about previous versions of fedora? I'm fairly certain you're referring to Dual_EC_DRBG. [1] It is a psuedorandom number generator, not an encryption method in and of itself. That being said, good, unguessable random numbers are an important tenet of modern cryptography. The issue with Dual_EC_DRBG is that certain attackers may be able to ascertain its output, thus potentially weakening any encryption that used random numbers generated by it. Please do not confuse it with elliptic curve cryptography in general. Certain encryption technologies that employ elliptic curve methods may actually _reduce_ the ability of snooping governments to gain access to your encrypted data. [2] Dual_EC_DRBG is indeed implemented by OpenSSL. [3] (I cannot say for certain whether or not it has been patched out by the Fedora OpenSSL maintainers.) However, it is not used as the default psuedorandom number generator for any purpose within it. [3] So unless you're forcing OpenSSL to use it by some means, you're fine. Furthermore, as an OpenSSL developer observes in the above linked mailing list thread, it is by no means the least secure thing implemented in OpenSSL. OpenSSL implements a wide variety of encryption technologies; it's up to individual programmers to stick with the safe defaults or be very careful in what they choose otherwise. Potential problems with Dual_EC_DRBG were identified long before the NSA scandal was in the news, so I think it's highly unlikely any open source software forces its use. Of course, unless you audit every line of source code of every piece of software you use, you're always potentially vulnerable... Unfortunately, OpenSSL can't just kill off many of these older not-so-safe methods, as some people are stuck dealing with legacy equipment/software where poor encryption is better than none at all. However, they are considering disabling Dual_EC_DRBG nonetheless. And what about our certificates? Are they more or less useless now? There are no vulnerabilities related to X.509 certificates generated by OpenSSL (on Fedora or otherwise) that I am aware of. The closest thing in this vein affected _SSH_ keys generated on Debian systems between 2006 and 2008. [4] That was introduced by patches to openssl by Debian Developers and never affected Fedora/Red Hat systems. Incidentally, that fiasco is a great example of the importance of good random number generation in cryptography. -T.C. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_secrecy [3] http://openssl.6102.n7.nabble.com/Dual-EC-DRBG-td46628.html [4] http://research.swtch.com/openssl -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Question: any problems if apply only security updates.
On Sun, 2013-12-22 at 00:22 +0100, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 21.12.2013 23:06, Edward M wrote: Hello, I was wondering if my fedora system later in time will have any repercussions, if I only apply the security updates and not the entire updates from the catalog, by using the yum --security update command? Besides that you won't get any non security bug fixes and enhancements there are no other side effects. Mateusz Marzantowicz Thanks for the reply. That is what I was thinking. I'm going though yum's manpage and noticed that option, I really don't feel comfortable about starting using that option; don't want to start having bugs related problems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Security/Hacked System - Now what?!!
For sake of discussion, assume a fresh base desktop install of the OS (Fed/RHEL/Centos). After doing the install from the iso(s), you install : -rkhunter -chkconfig You then go through the services, and disable any services you don't need/want. You then mod SSH as required to disable root login OK, what else should you do? Regarding rkhunter, is it simply a process to allow you to detect if anything file has been changed, so you can then go back to the previous backup? Are there any linux apps/services (ala what's on Windows) to detect/prevent rootkits/being hacked? I've looked over a bunch of webdics/articles, and thought it might be useful to have a thread on this here, as I'm currently going through this process. Thoughts/Comments Welcome Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
No loop device in new kernel?
Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Security/Hacked System - Now what?!!
bruce badouglas@gma il.com writes: You then mod SSH as required to disable root login OK, what else should you do? Root login isn't a bad idea in and of itself. More important is to not allow anything but public key logins (eg. ECDSA, RSA). For people logging in with root credentials, give everyone a different public key and keep a secure copy of /var/log/secure on a secure system for backtracking breakins. Each login (including root) will show which key was used to log in. You can easily see who lost control of their key. I'm a firm believer in never allowing passwords logins over the net. Users will hardly ever use random-letter-upper-lower-number passwords. They always think they are oh so clever with easily guessed strung together words, with or without a punctuation char. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 10:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Keepass and friends are worthy alternatives, but AFAIK they aren't usable from phones. I use Keepassdroid on an Android phone and it works just fine. It's a bit clunkier than on a desktop, but then, isn't everything? I manually download the database from Dropbox (only necessary if anything has changed), then Keepassdroid works just fine. Pasting the password after you've copied it to the clipboard is a long press. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On Dec 21, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). I vaguely recall it being mentioned during early early testing, but I'm not finding a feature page for it. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:56:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? Nope. I got updates just recently and it installed 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. I don't have the testing repo enabled. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:56, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? Ahhh. didn't expect that to be an update that just ran :-) :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 10:09, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:56:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? Nope. I got updates just recently and it installed 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. I don't have the testing repo enabled. Yeah, that just happened to me. ooopss... :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
ok guys.. since this has been hijacked to be a thread regarding passwds.. why don't you relabel the topic... On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote: On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 10:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Keepass and friends are worthy alternatives, but AFAIK they aren't usable from phones. I use Keepassdroid on an Android phone and it works just fine. It's a bit clunkier than on a desktop, but then, isn't everything? I manually download the database from Dropbox (only necessary if anything has changed), then Keepassdroid works just fine. Pasting the password after you've copied it to the clipboard is a long press. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/21/2013 05:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? [joe@khorlia ~]$ uname -r 3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE Checking, I have no testing repos active. I updated my system earlier today, and there was a kernel update, so no, it's not something for the testing mailing list, although it certainly would have been yesterday. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). FWIW, I just did the update and then mount f20.dvd -w -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/iso and it mounted just fine without the addition of a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Security/Hacked System - Now what?!!
Hi Wolfgang, Ok, say you have a box that you want to remotely access. Never a need to access the box via the gui/login. And regarding the ssh/remote access, you specify public/private keys, and you have the key process run from the key file. This allows a user to be able to ssh into the box without having to use the ssh passwd, but only from the corresponding box that has the associated public (master/client) passwd/key setup to permit the login access. But in this situation, if a user hacks into the 1st system, then they have access to the 2nd system, assuming they know the 2nd system's username. This would happen as the private/public key access file has been setup! Any way around this, or am I missing something... I'm thinking that you could setup the user(s) on the client machine, to restrict access/perms, but it still doesn't do anything about the fact that once a user hacks into the parent machine, they then would have access into the 2nd machine... feedback welcome.. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: bruce badouglas@gma il.com writes: You then mod SSH as required to disable root login OK, what else should you do? Root login isn't a bad idea in and of itself. More important is to not allow anything but public key logins (eg. ECDSA, RSA). For people logging in with root credentials, give everyone a different public key and keep a secure copy of /var/log/secure on a secure system for backtracking breakins. Each login (including root) will show which key was used to log in. You can easily see who lost control of their key. I'm a firm believer in never allowing passwords logins over the net. Users will hardly ever use random-letter-upper-lower-number passwords. They always think they are oh so clever with easily guessed strung together words, with or without a punctuation char. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 11:43 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/20/2013 11:28 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: my question: When creating the new VM in VBox Manager, did you choose the correct version of Fedora? I clicked on Fedora and I missed that there was an entry Fedora (64bit) ... It worked for me when I selected Red Hat (64 bit) as the OS type. Something may be more fundamentally wrong than I thought. I don't see 64 bit as a choice anywhere in Vbox Manager. When I look at the settings for the VM, I can't find anywhere that tells me if it's 32 bit or 64 bit. I did check, and the VirtualBox RPM does say it's x86_64. I did get an F20 VM installed in KVM, but it's so slow that it's worthless. The host machine is a quad core Haswell (i7) so I believe it has the necessary hardware virtualization stuff, and it's turned on in the BIOS. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/21/2013 09:54 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 11:43 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/20/2013 11:28 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: my question: When creating the new VM in VBox Manager, did you choose the correct version of Fedora? I clicked on Fedora and I missed that there was an entry Fedora (64bit) ... It worked for me when I selected Red Hat (64 bit) as the OS type. Something may be more fundamentally wrong than I thought. I don't see 64 bit as a choice anywhere in Vbox Manager. When I look at the settings for the VM, I can't find anywhere that tells me if it's 32 bit or 64 bit. I did check, and the VirtualBox RPM does say it's x86_64. I did get an F20 VM installed in KVM, but it's so slow that it's worthless. The host machine is a quad core Haswell (i7) so I believe it has the necessary hardware virtualization stuff, and it's turned on in the BIOS. --Greg Which repo is your virtualbox from? I'm using the one from the Oracle repo at https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads, http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/virtualbox.repo -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: issues with upgrade from f19 - f20
On 12-17-13 22:15:15 Ranjan Maitra wrote: %sudo yum --releasever=20 distro-sync and I get the following: [snip] Transaction check error: package dbus-libs-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package dbus-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package dbus-x11-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package python-urlgrabber-3.9.1-32.fc20.noarch is already installed package faad2-libs-1:2.7-2.fc17.x86_64 is already installed package usb_modeswitch-data-20130807-1.fc20.noarch is already installed package ssmtp-2.64-9.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package mesa-libGLU-9.0.0-3.fc20.x86_64 is already installed I can not get out of this. No matter what i do, here is where I end. Any suggestions? I did the yum upgrade on my laptop and ran into a similar problem. I ended up with a half-upgraded system when the yum command hung updating systemd. The fix is to manually erase the fc19 packages noted in this: package-cleanup --dupes And then do yum distro-sync On my desktop system I tried fedup for the first time and all went flawlessly. -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: issues with upgrade from f19 - f20
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:56:35 -0500 Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-17-13 22:15:15 Ranjan Maitra wrote: %sudo yum --releasever=20 distro-sync and I get the following: [snip] Transaction check error: package dbus-libs-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package dbus-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package dbus-x11-1:1.6.12-1.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package python-urlgrabber-3.9.1-32.fc20.noarch is already installed package faad2-libs-1:2.7-2.fc17.x86_64 is already installed package usb_modeswitch-data-20130807-1.fc20.noarch is already installed package ssmtp-2.64-9.fc20.x86_64 is already installed package mesa-libGLU-9.0.0-3.fc20.x86_64 is already installed I can not get out of this. No matter what i do, here is where I end. Any suggestions? I did the yum upgrade on my laptop and ran into a similar problem. I ended up with a half-upgraded system when the yum command hung updating systemd. The fix is to manually erase the fc19 packages noted in this: package-cleanup --dupes And then do yum distro-sync On my desktop system I tried fedup for the first time and all went flawlessly. Thanks for responding to this: after a full day of trying everything I could find online, I decided to go forward and reinstall F20 from scratch. Thanks, though, for responding! Best wishes, Ranjan FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Απάντ.: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
Hi, back in the early days of CDR media, we used to consider some drives even incompatible with certain colors. It was a long time ago so if I recall the dark blue ones were the best choose and the silver the worst. Where did your elephant memory recalled that ?? It should have remained in a small drawer in the smallest corner of your brain. Am not sure though brands ( HP, TDK,...) have to do with it, I used to use many of them , just the color. Εστάλη από το HTC μου - Reply message - Από: Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com Προς: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Θέμα: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64 Ημ/νία: Παρ, Δεκ 20, 2013 23:27 On 12/20/2013 11:26 AM, Tim issued this missive: Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, Gregory P. Ennis sent: The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and had no problems booting and installing F20. I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was unexpected, at least by me. Cheap blank discs? (Not always very compatible with drives.) Burnt the disc at maximum speed? (Not always the best option.) Also check the color of the disk media. Sometimes the color of the media screws up the wavelength of the reflected laser so it doesn't register correctly. We've had problems with that using cheap DVD-Rs (we stick with TDK or HP now). It was a huge problem back in the early days of CD-R media. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at - - from both sides. --A.M. Greeley- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
