Re: [389-users] Reset Password as Root if User Forgets Password

2014-01-27 Thread Dan Lavu

There is no tab for it.

On 26/01/14 22:55, Chaudhari, Rohit K. wrote:

Hello 389DS users,

I'm trying to figure out how to programmatically control the Change password after 
reset through Java code.  What is the attribute associated with that checkbox in 
the 389DS password policy tab?  Is there not a tab for it.  I just need confirmation on 
that.

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Re: Converting pdfs to mobi

2014-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 19:09 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote:
 However, I just tested converting the same document (pdf-mobi) using
 both calibre and Amazon's Kindle service. The results are far better
 from Amazon. Calibre's ebook-convert jumbles the output.
 
Depending on what you mean by jumbles, I can't say that's a surprise
for some PDFs. Are you saying it happens every time? Maybe a report to
Cailbre's author is in order.

poc

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Re: no more java

2014-01-27 Thread Jiri Vanek

On 01/24/2014 09:27 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote:

alternative --config java gives:
1   /usr/java/jdk1.7.0_17/jre/bin/java
2   /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.5.0-gcj/bin/java
*+ 3   
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.4.0.fc20.x86_64/jre/bin/java

only 2 works.
What happened? I did not change anything myself. Must come from an update.


Only 2?

The 3 is correct link to your jre (openjdk). The /usr/java/jdk1.7.0_17/jre/bin/java looks like you 
ever installed oracle jre from theirs RPM/tar.gz and then linked manually.

The 2 is GNU classpath - I would not recommend you to use it for regular java 
application.

What is en error when you run java and 3 i selected?

Sorry for inconvenience
  J.

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Re: Converting pdfs to mobi

2014-01-27 Thread Max Pyziur

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 19:09 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote:

However, I just tested converting the same document (pdf-mobi) using
both calibre and Amazon's Kindle service. The results are far better
from Amazon. Calibre's ebook-convert jumbles the output.


Depending on what you mean by jumbles, I can't say that's a surprise
for some PDFs. Are you saying it happens every time? Maybe a report to
Cailbre's author is in order.


In general, calibre's conversion of pdfs is less robust than Amazon's. By 
jumbles, I mean that certain documents have things such as footnotes, or 
endnotes; some have anchors. In Amazon's case, more often,these seem to be 
handled correctly. With Calibre, the footnotes can be interspersed with 
the regular text; in that way, the regular text is jumbled with the 
footnotes presenting problems of continuity.


Perhaps a report to calibre's authors is in order.



poc




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Can't resume ThinkPad from suspend

2014-01-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi,

I have a new ThinkPad (x240) running 3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64.  I can
suspend it just fine, but I can't resume.  This is what I see in the
journal:

Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Sleep.
-- Subject: Unit sleep.target has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit sleep.target has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep.
-- Subject: Unit sleep.target has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit sleep.target has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Suspend...
-- Subject: Unit systemd-suspend.service has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit systemd-suspend.service has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Network Manager Script 
Dispatcher Service...
-- Subject: Unit NetworkManager-dispatcher.service has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit NetworkManager-dispatcher.service has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost dbus-daemon[574]: dbus[574]: [system] Successfully 
activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost dbus[574]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd-sleep[29852]: Suspending system...
-- Subject: System sleep state suspend entered
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- The system has now entered the suspend sleep state.

After this, I can't see anything when I tried to wake up my laptop.  The
next thing I see is when I had to force a reboot.

-- Reboot --
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost systemd-journal[93]: Runtime journal is using 8.0M 
(max 383.8M, leaving 575.8M of free 3.7G, current limit 383.8M).
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost systemd-journal[93]: Runtime journal is using 8.0M 
(max 383.8M, leaving 575.8M of free 3.7G, current limit 383.8M).
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct

... and so on.

How do I debug this?  How can I get more information why the resume
fails?  Thanks for any ideas.

Cheers,

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RE: Can't resume ThinkPad from suspend

2014-01-27 Thread Hiren Joshi
I had a similar issue when I moved to the 3.12 kernel, this may be unrelated. 
If you have NVidia and the nouveau driver installed, the workaround:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/37476/fedora-20-unable-to-boot-after-update-from-kernel-311-to-kernel-312-nouveau-issue/

nouveau.runpm=0 worked.

But as I say, your problem may be entirely different.

Josh.

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To: Fedora users
Subject: Can't resume ThinkPad from suspend

Hi,

I have a new ThinkPad (x240) running 3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64.  I can
suspend it just fine, but I can't resume.  This is what I see in the
journal:

Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Sleep.
-- Subject: Unit sleep.target has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit sleep.target has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep.
-- Subject: Unit sleep.target has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit sleep.target has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Suspend...
-- Subject: Unit systemd-suspend.service has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit systemd-suspend.service has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Network Manager Script 
Dispatcher Service...
-- Subject: Unit NetworkManager-dispatcher.service has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit NetworkManager-dispatcher.service has begun starting up.
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost dbus-daemon[574]: dbus[574]: [system] Successfully 
activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost dbus[574]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 27 03:49:05 localhost systemd-sleep[29852]: Suspending system...
-- Subject: System sleep state suspend entered
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- The system has now entered the suspend sleep state.

After this, I can't see anything when I tried to wake up my laptop.  The
next thing I see is when I had to force a reboot.

-- Reboot --
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost systemd-journal[93]: Runtime journal is using 8.0M 
(max 383.8M, leaving 575.8M of free 3.7G, current limit 383.8M).
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost systemd-journal[93]: Runtime journal is using 8.0M 
(max 383.8M, leaving 575.8M of free 3.7G, current limit 383.8M).
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
Jan 27 11:51:44 localhost kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct

... and so on.

How do I debug this?  How can I get more information why the resume
fails?  Thanks for any ideas.

Cheers,

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Re: Converting pdfs to mobi

2014-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 19:09 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote:

 However, I just tested converting the same document (pdf-mobi) using
 both calibre and Amazon's Kindle service. The results are far better
 from Amazon. Calibre's ebook-convert jumbles the output.

 Depending on what you mean by jumbles, I can't say that's a surprise
 for some PDFs. Are you saying it happens every time? Maybe a report to
 Cailbre's author is in order.


 In general, calibre's conversion of pdfs is less robust than Amazon's. By
 jumbles, I mean that certain documents have things such as footnotes, or
 endnotes; some have anchors. In Amazon's case, more often,these seem to be
 handled correctly. With Calibre, the footnotes can be interspersed with the
 regular text; in that way, the regular text is jumbled with the footnotes
 presenting problems of continuity.

 Perhaps a report to calibre's authors is in order.

I would imagine that footnotes, endnotes etc. are hard cases to handle
since their positioning depends on page breaks. PDF documents are
preformatted to a page size, while Mobi docs are meant to adjust
according to the display device. Certainly it would be useful to
report this to Calibre's author. I also wouldn't expect great results
with equations and figures other than simple inserted images.

I take it that conversion of normal text (such as you would find in a
novel) is more acceptable?

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Re: Converting pdfs to mobi

2014-01-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:41:09 -0500 (EST)
Max Pyziur wrote:

 In general, calibre's conversion of pdfs is less robust than Amazon's. By 
 jumbles, I mean that certain documents have things such as footnotes, or 
 endnotes; some have anchors. In Amazon's case, more often,these seem to be 
 handled correctly. With Calibre, the footnotes can be interspersed with 
 the regular text; in that way, the regular text is jumbled with the 
 footnotes presenting problems of continuity.

I remember seeing an OCR program once that would accept pdf files,
so it didn't need to recognize characters, but it still applied
all the OCR layout recognition algorithms to try and detect
the proper way to treat the document. I suspect calibre is
doing very limited layout analysis (perhaps none).

I seem to remember seeing libreoffice can import PDFs these
days. I wonder if it is any better at layout? If so, you
could import PDF and export HTML from office.
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Re: Disable NetworkManager

2014-01-27 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
On 01/27/2014 05:23 PM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I'd want to disable NetworkManager, I've performed a minimal install and
 I don't need it, please could you help me?
 
 I've tried disabling using systemctl, but network.service does not set
 ip address.
so it seems that you do need it :)
(you could have 2 problems here: missing dhcp-client or NM_CONTROLLED=no
in the interface script)

i dont know your use case (thou in f20 it is advertised that it can work
with both bonding and bridging) but as is the case of systemd also the
NetworkManager it seems that is here to stay.
I would recommend to begin experiment with nmcli (the cli interface to
NM) in order to prepare for RHEL7. (i did, and after 1+ year of cursing
i am comfortable with both NM and systemd - thanks Fedora :) )

HTH,
Adrian




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Re: Configuring grub questions

2014-01-27 Thread g



On 01/26/2014 04:13 PM, Alex wrote:

Hi,

I have an old computer with two disks. One is a F18 system and the
other is a Win7 system. Both disks were installed and configured as
primary. I've been shutting down the system and switching the IDE
cables depending on which one I'd like to have booted.

How can I configure the grub on the F18 system so I can control which
system I'd like to load at boot time?


answered in links provided below.


Could I set up the F18 system as a secondary disk with the Win7 system
as the primary, and boot from the secondary with grub configured on
it? I'm not sure how Win7 would respond to booting as a secondary disk
when the install was done as primary...


put oos and grub boot loader on 1st drive.


If this was lilo, I could probably figure it out, but I'm unsure how
to configure grub for this specifically.


i doubt it. unless lilo has changed greatly, i do not believe it
would see oos7


[below]

by your post, you appear to be new to linux and too old with oos and
therefore have been doing things the hard way and wrong way.

the hard way = swapping drives.

the wrong way = asking a basic question that answer can easily be found
with a quick search on internet.

because you are using linux, a good/logical place to search is;

   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/

where you will find;

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-add-windows-7-to-grub-boot-entry-892791/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/install-win7-hp-upgrade-to-win-xp-on-dual-boot-grub-problem-851908/

matters not if you are using an hp or not. same solution applies to any
box with linux installed.

if you are using first version of grub, instructions for set up are at;

   http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/

if you are using second version, ie, grub2, instructions for set up are at;

   http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html

a little reading never hurts as it gives one knowledge of what one is not
unaware of. ;-)

and, yes, i could have posted step by step instructions on what to do. but
why should i? if you read above links, you will find all of what you want
to know and then some. plus, it saves me a lot of typing. ((GBWG))

enjoy.

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Re: ssh/dhclient

2014-01-27 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/27/2014 12:44 AM, bruce wrote:
 Got a test iisue/problem.
 
 The situation is a group of test servers in a network that's managed
 by an upstream DHCP server.
 
 I have no control of the upstream DHCP allocation of IP addresses.
 
 All the test servers (5) are running centos 6.5 as a test. (I know,
 this is a fed channel, but the issues shoudl be the same!!)
 
 The test boxes, run the nic/eth0.
 The boxes run NetworkManager
 All the boxes have the same /etc/resolv.conf
 All the boxes can ping each other
 
 All the boxes are on a subnet of 192.168.5.x
 
 The issue I'm trying to track down, is that one box can't seem to
 access the external 'net, ie ping www.google.com doesn't return, and
 an actual test of ping 1.2.3.4 where the 1.2.3.4 is the actual ip of
 google.com doesn't get processed.
 
 I'm running/testing all of this remotely, so I was trying to see if
 there's a way to change/force a new ipaddress for the box in question.
 I'm curious to see if changing the ip on the box, will result in the
 test ping working...
 
 Thoughts/comments things to check??
 
 Thanks
 

What does 'route' show as the default route for all of them?  If the default 
route is the same then I would suspect it's something
to do with a firewall (either local to the machine or the default firewall 
blocking access).

Kevin

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BTRFS scrub

2014-01-27 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hi all,

I'm experimenting for the first time with btrfs on a scratch partition
and I wanted to test the scrub feature with:

#btrfs scrub start /btrfs

..but this is what I get when I check the status:

#btrfs scrub status /btrfs

scrub status for 543c5220-30ec-472b-a8ec-8c4c49f1fd32
scrub started at Mon Jan 27 10:26:50 2014 and was aborted after 0 
seconds
total bytes scrubbed: 0.00 with 0 errors

I assume of course that checksums for data  metadata are enabled.  I
created the filesystem simply with:

# mkfs.btrfs /dev/sdc1

I'm not sure if I had to specify some option at creation time or if I
have to specify any at mount time (to enable the checksums).

Thanks for any help.

Regards,
Jorge
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Disable NetworkManager

2014-01-27 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi folks,

I'd want to disable NetworkManager, I've performed a minimal install and I
don't need it, please could you help me?

I've tried disabling using systemctl, but network.service does not set ip
address.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Converting pdfs to mobi

2014-01-27 Thread poma
On 27.01.2014 15:01, Tom Horsley wrote:

 I remember seeing an OCR program once that would accept pdf files,
 so it didn't need to recognize characters, but it still applied
 all the OCR layout recognition algorithms to try and detect
 the proper way to treat the document. I suspect calibre is
 doing very limited layout analysis (perhaps none).

OCR app that doesn't OCR!? :)

 I seem to remember seeing libreoffice can import PDFs these
 days. I wonder if it is any better at layout? If so, you
 could import PDF and export HTML from office.

LibreOffice -
File\Export as PDF…\General\General
- Embed OpenDocument file
  Makes this PDF easily editable in LibreOffice

LibreOffice Help:
Embed OpenDocument file
This setting enables you to export the document as a .pdf file
containing two file formats: PDF and ODF. In PDF viewers it behaves like
a normal .pdf file and it remains fully editable in LibreOffice.


poma


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Re: Can't resume ThinkPad from suspend

2014-01-27 Thread poma
On 27.01.2014 14:46, Suvayu Ali wrote:
…
 How do I debug this?  How can I get more information why the resume
 fails?  Thanks for any ideas.

First check S3/resume without X11,
# systemctl set-default multi-user.target
# systemctl isolate multi-user.target
# systemctl suspend
# dmesg - ACPI  PM


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Re: BTRFS scrub [SOLVED]

2014-01-27 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/27/2014 10:35 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 #btrfs scrub status /btrfs
 
 scrub status for 543c5220-30ec-472b-a8ec-8c4c49f1fd32
   scrub started at Mon Jan 27 10:26:50 2014 and was aborted after 0 
 seconds
   total bytes scrubbed: 0.00 with 0 errors

Arrgh.  The filesystem was read-only.  I realized this when tried it with:

#btrfs scrub start /btrfs -B

..so that it doesn't run in the bacgrkound and that's where I got the
message about it being read-only.

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Re: no more java

2014-01-27 Thread Frédéric Bron
Thanks.
However the issue has been solved by:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056187
Cheers,
Frédéric
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Re: BTRFS scrub

2014-01-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 27, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I assume of course that checksums for data  metadata are enabled.  I
 created the filesystem simply with:
 
 # mkfs.btrfs /dev/sdc1
 
 I'm not sure if I had to specify some option at creation time or if I
 have to specify any at mount time (to enable the checksums).


Data and metadata checksums enabled with default mount options. They'd have to 
be explicitly disabled at mount time to not get them. With a single device, 
data uses the single profile so just one copy; metadata uses the DUP profile so 
two copies.

For scrubs that write corrections to disk, the volume needs to be mounted rw, 
and then:

btrfs scrub start /mnt

For read only scrubs you need -r flag to get useful information of what fixes 
would be done if they were enabled. This works whether the device is mounted ro 
or rw.

btrfs scrub start -r /mnt


Chris Murphy

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Re: Configuring grub questions

2014-01-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 26, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have an old computer with two disks. One is a F18 system and the
 other is a Win7 system. Both disks were installed and configured as
 primary. I've been shutting down the system and switching the IDE
 cables depending on which one I'd like to have booted.

You should be able to choose the drive with BIOS setup rather than physically 
switching cables.

 
 How can I configure the grub on the F18 system so I can control which
 system I'd like to load at boot time?

Well that's a rabbit hole but what you can try for starters is to mount the 
Windows volume (open question as to which one, I'm mainly used to single 
partition Windows installs, but if you install to an unpartitioned drive, the 
default behavior of the Windows installer creates a sort of boot partition 
that's small, and a main one); and then simply do:

grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

By default mkconfig uses os-prober and ought to find Windows without it being 
mounted but it might help it find it easier if it is mounted. If it's 
encrypted, with TrueCrypt or Bit Locker then I have no ideas whether it's 
possible.

 
 Could I set up the F18 system as a secondary disk with the Win7 system
 as the primary, and boot from the secondary with grub configured on
 it?

Yes you tell BIOS setup you want to boot from the secondary disk. And then it 
will always load GRUB.


 I'm not sure how Win7 would respond to booting as a secondary disk
 when the install was done as primary…

I don't think it'll care.


 If this was lilo, I could probably figure it out, but I'm unsure how
 to configure grub for this specifically.

I'm not sure LILO on disk A will point to an OS on disk B. GRUB can definitely 
do that.


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must be missing something

2014-01-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
II used fed up to upgrade my system to f20 but when I executed;
fedup --network 20
my system was still running f18 according to uname.
What am I doing wrong and how  can I correct my mistake?





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Re: must be missing something

2014-01-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/28/14 05:38, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 II used fed up to upgrade my system to f20 but when I executed;
 fedup --network 20
 my system was still running f18 according to uname.
 What am I doing wrong and how  can I correct my mistake?


Are you saying that you did...

1.  fedup --network 20
2.  The above ran without error or warning.
3.  You rebooted
4a.  There was no grub entry for Continue Upgrade  or something like that 
  or
4b.   You ran the upgrade process after rebooting and you're still seeing an 
f18 kernel


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Re: texlive

2014-01-27 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Hello:

My suggestion is that no matter which distro are using you, install TeXLive
2013 (
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/133235/installing-tex-live-2013-on-linux)
full or TeXLive 2014 (coming soon) from an iso image from the CTAN (
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/systems/texlive/Images) or another source (
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/eitl). Then you'll be able to get your TeXLive
packages updated and don't depend of the likes and decisions from the
people who develops Fedora or another distro, who thinks about the average
user and sometimes for that, is that you have issues when you are out of
the average usage.

Good luck
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Re: Configuring grub questions

2014-01-27 Thread Alex
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Jan 26, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have an old computer with two disks. One is a F18 system and the
 other is a Win7 system. Both disks were installed and configured as
 primary. I've been shutting down the system and switching the IDE
 cables depending on which one I'd like to have booted.

 You should be able to choose the drive with BIOS setup rather than physically 
 switching cables.

As it turned out, I was able to do this since one disk is PIDE and the
other is SATA and Linux is much more resilient with booting than
Windows.

 How can I configure the grub on the F18 system so I can control which
 system I'd like to load at boot time?

 Well that's a rabbit hole but what you can try for starters is to mount the 
 Windows volume (open question as to which one, I'm mainly used to single 
 partition Windows installs, but if you install to an unpartitioned drive, the 
 default behavior of the Windows installer creates a sort of boot partition 
 that's small, and a main one); and then simply do:

 grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

 By default mkconfig uses os-prober and ought to find Windows without it being 
 mounted but it might help it find it
 easier if it is mounted. If it's encrypted, with TrueCrypt or Bit Locker then 
 I have no ideas whether it's possible.

Thanks for your help. This is exactly what I did. I'm not a Linux
newbie - just didn't realize grub had advanced as far as it has in
recent years. Much of the research I did with grub prior to posting
turned out to be wrong and unrelated.

 Yes you tell BIOS setup you want to boot from the secondary disk. And then it 
 will always load GRUB.

Six of one... I had only set it up a few days ago, so there wasn't all
that much switching, actually.

 I'm not sure how Win7 would respond to booting as a secondary disk
 when the install was done as primary...

 I don't think it'll care.

I meant slave, which probably would have been a problem, but you're
right - it didn't care just as secondary when controlling it through
the BIOS.

Thanks for your help.
Alex
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