Re: Gnome weather extension as malware?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Tim  wrote:

> Unless you're actually in the airport control tower, or flying a plane,
> I doubt you need to keep updating a weather report that often.
>

LOL your comment made my day. Well said. :)

Although by reading some other mailing lists, I could quickly conclude that
some people are not flying planes but are still
high above the ground...
;-)

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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/02/2014 12:26 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote:

On 5-1-14 22:35:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 05/01/2014 05:12 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

To see all the matches, IPv6 and IPv4, you can use "ahosts"
instead

comannd not found.  I will have to figure out what rpm provides it,
as it was not part of the base f20 install.  But thanks

 getent ahosts www.google.com


Oh.  I did not get that from your first write up.  Got it now. thanks.


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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Garry T. Williams]

On 5-1-14 22:35:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 05/01/2014 05:12 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > To see all the matches, IPv6 and IPv4, you can use "ahosts"
> > instead
>
> comannd not found.  I will have to figure out what rpm provides it,
> as it was not part of the base f20 install.  But thanks

getent ahosts www.google.com

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Re: system-config-lvm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/01/14 23:55, Patrick Laimbock wrote:
> On 01-05-14 13:26, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
> [snip]
>> was unwilling to risk building the tool.  I have a USB key that boots
>> Linux Mint.  Every time I need to adjust my LVM, I have to reboot to
>> Mint, make the change and reboot again.  That is sad.
>
> So what is the LVM tool in Linux Mint? Perhaps that tool could be packaged 
> for Fedora.
>

A bit of googling suggests they use a utility called "system-config-lvm" which 
they acquired and repackaged for debian based systems from this obscure company 
called Red Hat.  :-) :-)




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Re: Gnome weather extension as malware?

[Tim]

Tim:
>> While that sounds reasonable, the 15 second refresh period does not.
>> Does it really do that?  Is it really necessary to do so? 

Steven Stern:
> I've left the capture running for a while and it seems that the timing
> varies.  It's been a while since it last checked.  It seems that the
> checks are once per 30 seconds.  So, that's one http call per 30
> seconds. I can live with that.

I was thinking of the other side of the equation:  Thousands of Linux
users all blasting some server every few seconds for the next few years.

Unless you're actually in the airport control tower, or flying a plane,
I doubt you need to keep updating a weather report that often.

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Re: Fedora 20 Update: unetbootin-603-1.fc20

[Tim]

On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 22:23 +, upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> UNetbootin allows you to create bootable Live USB drives for a variety of
> Linux distributions from Windows or Linux, without requiring you to burn a CD.
> You can either let it download one of the many distributions supported
> out-of-the-box for you, or supply your own Linux .iso file if you've already
> downloaded one or your preferred distribution isn't on the list.

I thought I'd give this a try, and ran it from the menu, since it was
listed there, only to get this warning message:

  UNetbootin must be run as root.  Close it, and re-run using either:
  sudo /usr/bin/unetbootin
  or:
  su - -c '/usr/bin/unetbootin'

Then it appears to run, if I close the warning.  I haven't actually
tested, yet, whether it manages to run successfully.  But a few things
spring to mind:

If it really *requires* to be run as root, why is it in a menu where it
cannot?  We don't have a "run as" (someone else) option like Windows
has.  Well, at least the mate desktop does not.

Why doesn't the menu call it in a way where appropriate permissions are
requested as you call it?  Other things that need it, such as various
system configurators, get you to type in your password, or the root
password, before the thing continues on.

If it has to be run from the command line, why's there a menu entry?

Have I missed something?  (Before I go through the tortures of trying to
make a bugzilla report.)

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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/01/2014 05:12 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz  said:

Kind of thought so.  So is there an equiv command that follows
system priorities for both dns and hosts file?

getent hosts www.google.com

That will follow the IPv6-before-IPv4 rules (so by default, if the host
has an IPv6 entry, only that will be shown).


Yes.  It is stopping at the ipv6 address


To see all the matches, IPv6 and IPv4, you can use "ahosts" instead


comannd not found.  I will have to figure out what rpm provides it, as 
it was not part of the base f20 install.  But thanks



(which also has "ahostsv4" and "ahostsv6" to get only a specific address
family).  That will return all socket types (so usually STREAM, DGRAM,
and RAW).  This is done via a calls to getaddrinfo() and so should match
the behavior of modern (akak IPv6-ready) programs.



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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/01/2014 05:04 PM, Alchemist wrote:




2014-05-01 23:52 GMT+03:00 Robert Moskowitz >:


F20

I put an IPv4 entry for a server in my /etc/hosts file.  I can
'ping bob', but 'host bob' comes back with:

Host bob not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I have this vague memory from years back about a file that set
precedence of hosts file and dns for fqdn lookup.  Can't remember
it of find it.

Of course the problem might simply be the host command is
incapable of processing the /etc/hosts file?

thanks for any help on this.


Check your /etc/host.conf for line
order hosts,bind


multi on


and /etc/nsswitch.conf for correct order
hosts: files dns


hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname


 However results may differ



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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello Ed,

Finally, I made it works, with vnc. remmina.
I just did not remember!

Thank for your help.

Regards.

> 
> On 05/02/14 08:56, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > I remember that I took the control on this machine.
> > but I cannot do it again.
> > Even in the past, I was able to use nomachine, but not anymore.
> >
> > with remmina, the only thing that I can do is a text session
> > I cannot use the nx, rdp,xdmcp session.
> 
> You probably forgot to install remmina-plugins-vnc
> 
> >
> > I can get: Command xqproxy not found on SSH server
> >
> > I am surprised that vncviewer does not work.
> > It works very well when I connect to a machine on the same lan
> 
> I would not be surprised if another firewall is there
> 
> >
> > What do you think about this
> > http://stufs4u.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/install-and-configure-vnc-server-in-fedora-20/
> > ? 
> 
> That is a "fairly" good write-up. However, it will not work as written since 
> the instructions don't open port 5910.
> 
> I would use vncserver@:0.service, or vncserver@:1.service, 
> vncserver@:2.service, or vncserver@:3.service to keep things in line using 
> the standard ports. 
> 
> >
> > It is confusing, because something is bizare. And I cannot remember what I 
> > did last
> > time. I have been through all my messages. But I do not understand!
> 
> 
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Re: FC14 -> FC20 & Evolution

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 08:55:43PM -0400, Charlie McVeigh wrote:
> Since I am so far behind the current release of Fedora will I have any
> trouble restoring a backup of my Evolution files to FC20 Evolution once
> I upgrade?   I have searched the web for advice on this but I can't find
> any information that answers this question.
> 
> I am concerned that I am making too big of a leap in Evolution versions
> and need to consider an intermediate step of upgrading to FC16 or FC17,
> restoring my Evolution data and backing it up again to make the leap to
> FC20.

I have no idea, but I'd suggest copying your data into a VM and trying it.
Or, alternately, make a backup of your data, and then do the upgrade, and if
it _doesn't_ work, try installing FC17 in a VM and using that as an
intermediate step, and so on (but hopefully it just works).


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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 08:56, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> I remember that I took the control on this machine.
> but I cannot do it again.
> Even in the past, I was able to use nomachine, but not anymore.
>
> with remmina, the only thing that I can do is a text session
> I cannot use the nx, rdp,xdmcp session.

You probably forgot to install remmina-plugins-vnc

>
> I can get: Command xqproxy not found on SSH server
>
> I am surprised that vncviewer does not work.
> It works very well when I connect to a machine on the same lan

I would not be surprised if another firewall is there

>
> What do you think about this
> http://stufs4u.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/install-and-configure-vnc-server-in-fedora-20/
> ? 

That is a "fairly" good write-up.  However, it will not work as written since 
the instructions don't open port 5910.

I would use vncserver@:0.service, or vncserver@:1.service, 
vncserver@:2.service, or vncserver@:3.service to keep things in line using the 
standard ports. 

>
> It is confusing, because something is bizare. And I cannot remember what I 
> did last
> time. I have been through all my messages. But I do not understand!


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Re: Gnome weather extension as malware?

[Steven Stern]

On 05/01/2014 07:47 PM, Tim wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz:
>>> This extension gets its weather information from the Norway weather service,
>>> and you can't change this.
> 
> Suvayu Ali:
>> This is standard practise among many FOSS weather monitoring tools.  A
>> year or so back most popular weather feeds either stopped, went
>> proprietary, or kept changing their feed structure too often.  At this
>> point many FOSS weather tools moved to the service provided by Norwegian
>> Weather Institute.  It is never going to go proprietary, and will most
>> likely stay alive for the foreseeable future.  It is also rather
>> reliable.
> 
> While that sounds reasonable, the 15 second refresh period does not.
> Does it really do that?  Is it really necessary to do so?
> 

I've left the capture running for a while and it seems that the timing
varies.  It's been a while since it last checked.  It seems that the
checks are once per 30 seconds.  So, that's one http call per 30
seconds. I can live with that.

The wireshark filter I'm using is

http and ip.dst_host == 157.249.32.164

I have two locations enabled.



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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

Thank again,

I remember that I took the control on this machine.
but I cannot do it again.
Even in the past, I was able to use nomachine, but not anymore.

with remmina, the only thing that I can do is a text session
I cannot use the nx, rdp,xdmcp session.

I can get: Command xqproxy not found on SSH server

I am surprised that vncviewer does not work.
It works very well when I connect to a machine on the same lan

What do you think about this
http://stufs4u.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/install-and-configure-vnc-server-in-fedora-20/
? 

It is confusing, because something is bizare. And I cannot remember what I did 
last
time. I have been through all my messages. But I do not understand!

Thank for ypour patience


> On 05/02/14 08:01, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Yes,
> > Thank to mind me.
> > In the mean time, the machine has been updated.
> > So the definitive conclusion is that I will never be able the access to this
> > machine because of the firewall?
> >
> > Can I just use the ssh?
> > By the way, I can sak that they opne the service for me. They will probably 
> > do it
> > if I aks exactly what I need.
> >
> > In addition, what if I go through a VPN?
> > In the past I set up a VPN, with the right instruction from the university.
> > But at this University, I not sure!!!
> 
> You may want to go back and read the thread(s) from February.
> 
> Recall that if you can "ssh" into the system from the outside you can use an 
> SSH Tunnel to use VNC that way. Using a client such as "remmina" can make 
> that easier.
> 
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FC14 -> FC20 & Evolution

[Charlie McVeigh]

Okay, I have to admit I gave been lazy and have fallen far behind the
the curve on Fedora releases.  I am currently running FC14 and I want to
upgrade to FC20.  My question for the board is as follows:

Since I am so far behind the current release of Fedora will I have any
trouble restoring a backup of my Evolution files to FC20 Evolution once
I upgrade?   I have searched the web for advice on this but I can't find
any information that answers this question.

I am concerned that I am making too big of a leap in Evolution versions
and need to consider an intermediate step of upgrading to FC16 or FC17,
restoring my Evolution data and backing it up again to make the leap to
FC20.

Currently running FC14 & Evolution 2.32.3

Thanks for any advice that can be shared.

Charlie

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Re: Gnome weather extension as malware?

[Tim]

Robert Moskowitz:
>> This extension gets its weather information from the Norway weather service,
>> and you can't change this.

Suvayu Ali:
> This is standard practise among many FOSS weather monitoring tools.  A
> year or so back most popular weather feeds either stopped, went
> proprietary, or kept changing their feed structure too often.  At this
> point many FOSS weather tools moved to the service provided by Norwegian
> Weather Institute.  It is never going to go proprietary, and will most
> likely stay alive for the foreseeable future.  It is also rather
> reliable.

While that sounds reasonable, the 15 second refresh period does not.
Does it really do that?  Is it really necessary to do so?

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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 08:01, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Yes,
> Thank to mind me.
> In the mean time, the machine has been updated.
> So the definitive conclusion is that I will never be able the access to this
> machine because of the firewall?
>
> Can I just use the ssh?
> By the way, I can sak that they opne the service for me. They will probably 
> do it
> if I aks exactly what I need.
>
> In addition, what if I go through a VPN?
> In the past I set up a VPN, with the right instruction from the university.
> But at this University, I not sure!!!

You may want to go back and read the thread(s) from February.

Recall that if you can "ssh" into the system from the outside you can use an 
SSH Tunnel to use VNC that way.  Using a client such as "remmina" can make that 
easier.

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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

> - Original Message -
> From: Ed Greshko
> Sent: 05/02/14 01:50 AM
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 05/02/14 07:37, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > PORT STATE SERVICE
> > 5900/tcp filtered vnc
> > 5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
> > 5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
> > 5903/tcp filtered vnc-3
> >
> > But then,
> >
> > TigerVNC Viewer 64-bit v1.3.0 (20140319)
> > Built on Mar 19 2014 at 17:09:18
> > Copyright (C) 1999-2011 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.txt)
> > See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.
> >
> > Fri May 2 01:34:25 2014
> > CConn: unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)
> 
> Where is the system running vncviewer/nmap in relation to the system running 
> vncserver?
> 
> The above shows "filtered" which means the port is being blocked/filtered by 
> a firewall. Back in February, the configuration you were working with had a 
> firewall/router between two systems over which you had not control.

Yes,
Thank to mind me.
In the mean time, the machine has been updated.
So the definitive conclusion is that I will never be able the access to this
machine because of the firewall?

Can I just use the ssh?
By the way, I can sak that they opne the service for me. They will probably do 
it
if I aks exactly what I need.

In addition, what if I go through a VPN?
In the past I set up a VPN, with the right instruction from the university.
But at this University, I not sure!!!


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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 07:37, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> PORT STATESERVICE
> 5900/tcp filtered vnc
> 5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
> 5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
> 5903/tcp filtered vnc-3
>
> But then,
>
> TigerVNC Viewer 64-bit v1.3.0 (20140319)
> Built on Mar 19 2014 at 17:09:18
> Copyright (C) 1999-2011 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.txt)
> See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.
>
> Fri May  2 01:34:25 2014
>  CConn:   unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)

Where is the system running vncviewer/nmap in relation to the system running 
vncserver?

The above shows "filtered" which means the port is being blocked/filtered by a 
firewall.  Back in February, the configuration you were working with had a 
firewall/router between two systems over which you had not control.

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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

> - Original Message -
> From: Ed Greshko
> Sent: 05/02/14 01:28 AM
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 05/02/14 07:24, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Thank,
> >
> > Now it better,
> > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpts:rfb:5903 ctstate NEW
> > ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:5901 ctstate NEW
> >
> > but the port are still closed.
> 
> Ports will show as "closed" if there is no process listening on the port.
> 
> -- 
PORT     STATE    SERVICE
5900/tcp filtered vnc
5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
5903/tcp filtered vnc-3

But then,

TigerVNC Viewer 64-bit v1.3.0 (20140319)
Built on Mar 19 2014 at 17:09:18
Copyright (C) 1999-2011 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.txt)
See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.

Fri May  2 01:34:25 2014
 CConn:       unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)



firewalld.service - firewalld - dynamic firewall daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2014-05-02 01:28:44 CEST; 8min ago
 Main PID: 25521 (firewalld)
   CGroup: /system.slice/firewalld.service
           └─25521 /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/firewalld --nofork --nopid

May 02 01:28:44 Homere systemd[1]: Starting firewalld - dynamic firewall 
daemon...
May 02 01:28:44 Homere systemd[1]: Started firewalld - dynamic firewall daemon.

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Re: iptable

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 2 May 2014 at 7:09, Ed Greshko wrote:

Date sent:  Fri, 02 May 2014 07:09:29 +0800
From:   Ed Greshko 
To: Community support for Fedora users 

Subject:Re: iptable

> On 05/02/14 06:57, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > iptables -L
> >
> > gives:
> >
> > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source   destination 
> >
> > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source   destination 
> >
> > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source   destination   
> >
> > Something is wrong, but I cannot fix it
> >
> >
> 
> systemctl status firewalld.service

I've been doing upgrades of some older machines by doing a clean install of 
Fedora 20, and to get vnc working with the firewall, I've found that just 
putting 
the following files and restart firewalld.


File /etc/firewalld/services/vnc-server.xml



  Virtual Network Computing Server (VNC)
  A VNC server provides an external accessible X session. 
Enable this option if you plan to provide a VNC server with direct access. The 
access will be possible for displays :0 to :3. If you plan to provide access 
with 
SSH, do not open this option and use the via option of the VNC 
viewer.
  


File /etc/firewalld/zones/public.xml



  Public
  For use in public areas. You do not trust the other computers on 
networks to not harm your computer. Only selected incoming connections are 
accepted.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  


Note: I'm using port 5979 for my vnc, and the 9000-9001 is for udpcast.

Setting those to files, and restarting the firewalld lets the connect to the 
machines thru the firewall work.



> 
> The question is, is the firewall not running or the dbus service has a
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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 07:24, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Thank,
>
> Now it better,
> ACCEPT tcp  --  anywhere anywhere tcp 
> dpts:rfb:5903 ctstate NEW
> ACCEPT tcp  --  anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:5901 
> ctstate NEW
>
> but the port are still closed.

Ports will show as "closed" if there is no process listening on the port.

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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

systemctl status dbus.service
dbus.service - D-Bus System Message Bus
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service; static)
   Active: active (running) since Thu 2014-05-01 18:30:32 CEST; 6h ago
 Main PID: 965 (dbus-daemon)
   CGroup: /system.slice/dbus.service
           ├─ 965 /bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork 
--nopidfile --systemd-activation
           ├─4753 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/share/system-config-services/system-config-services-mechanism.py
           └─4755 /usr/libexec/gam_server

May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: 
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: File 
"/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in __init__
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: self._named_service = 
conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: File 
"/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 175, in activate_..._owner
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: return self.get_name_owner(bus_name)
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: File 
"/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 361, in get_name_owner
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: 's', (bus_name,), **keywords)
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: File 
"/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in ca...ocking
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: message, timeout)
May 02 01:24:44 Homere dbus-daemon[965]: DBusException: 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a replyroken.
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.

]# systemctl status dbus.socket
dbus.socket - D-Bus System Message Bus Socket
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.socket; static)
   Active: active (running) since Thu 2014-05-01 18:30:31 CEST; 6h ago
   Listen: /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket (Stream)



> - Original Message -
> From: Ed Greshko
> Sent: 05/02/14 01:05 AM
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 05/02/14 06:52, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Oh I now,
> > but on this machine the 5900-5903 port are filtering and I cannot open them.
> > using firewall-config, I get:
> >
> > ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on 
> > :1.80:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/XinetdServiceHerder:
> >  dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not 
> > receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not 
> > send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply 
> > timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
> >
> > How can I fix it?
> 
> systemctl status dbus.service
> systemctl status dbus.socket
> 
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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

OK,

Thank,

Now it better,
ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpts:rfb:5903 
ctstate NEW
ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:5901 
ctstate NEW

but the port are still closed.


> - Original Message -
> From: Ed Greshko
> Sent: 05/02/14 01:09 AM
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 05/02/14 06:57, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > iptables -L
> >
> > gives:
> >
> > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source destination 
> >
> > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source destination 
> >
> > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> > target prot opt source destination 
> >
> > Something is wrong, but I cannot fix it
> >
> >
> 
> systemctl status firewalld.service
> 
> The question is, is the firewall not running or the dbus service has a 
> problem preventing the tables from being created.
> 
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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 06:57, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> iptables -L
>
> gives:
>
> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination 
>
> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination 
>
> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination   
>
> Something is wrong, but I cannot fix it
>
>

systemctl status firewalld.service

The question is, is the firewall not running or the dbus service has a problem 
preventing the tables from being created.

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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 06:52, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Oh I now,
> but on this machine the 5900-5903 port are filtering and I cannot open them.
> using firewall-config, I get:
>
>  ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on 
> :1.80:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/XinetdServiceHerder: 
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not 
> receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send 
> a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout 
> expired, or the network connection was broken.
>
> How can I fix it?

systemctl status dbus.service
systemctl status dbus.socket

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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

iptables -L

gives:

Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination         

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination         

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination   

Something is wrong, but I cannot fix it



> - Original Message -
> From: Edward M
> Sent: 05/02/14 12:49 AM
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 5/1/2014 3:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 05/02/14 06:24, Edward M wrote:
> >> On 5/1/2014 12:51 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >>> How can I manage the iptable manually?
> >>> There is no
> >>> /etc/sysconfig/iptables
> >>>
> >>> Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Probably be of some help:
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_edit_iptables_rules
> >
> > You do know that this advice would only be valid if the OP is running 
> > iptables.service and not the default firewalld.service.
> >
> 
>  No I was not sure that is why i said "probably be of some help".
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Re: iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

> - Original Message -
> From: Ed Greshko
> Sent: 05/02/14 12:23 AM
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: iptable
> 
> On 05/02/14 03:51, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > My firewall-config does not work properly (I am ready posted about).
> > How can I manage the iptable manually?
> > There is no
> > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
> >
> > Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc
> >
> 
> Are you running into the same problem a user had back in February? The 
> subject line at that time, if I remember correctly, was along the lines of 
> "vncviewer". 
> 
> FWIW, vnc works fine here upon opening the necessary ports via 
> firewall-config.

Oh I now,
but on this machine the 5900-5903 port are filtering and I cannot open them.
using firewall-config, I get:

 ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on 
:1.80:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/XinetdServiceHerder: 
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not 
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a 
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout 
expired, or the network connection was broken.

How can I fix it?

Thank.

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Re: iptable

[Edward M]

On 5/1/2014 3:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/02/14 06:24, Edward M wrote:

On 5/1/2014 12:51 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

How can I manage the iptable manually?
There is no
   /etc/sysconfig/iptables

Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc



   Hello,
   Probably be of some help:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_edit_iptables_rules


You do know that this advice would only be valid if the OP is running 
iptables.service and not the default firewalld.service.



No I was not sure that is why i said "probably be of some help".

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Re: system-config-lvm

[Chris Murphy]

This doesn't answer the original question, but here are two comments.

a.) Even a few, let alone many, file system resizes make the file system 
inefficient. This goes for both ext and XFS. (Btrfs is in a different category 
because it allocates in chunks and when a fs is resized, a drive is added or 
replaced, or removed, the chunks are relocated. Resize is just a variation on a 
balance.) The better option, is to fix the size of the file system at the 
largest it would ever practically be in its lifetime, using LVM thin 
provisioning. And use fstrim occasionally, instead of resizing the file system.

b.) A non-GUI option, that establishes a fairly consistent vernacular among 
various storage technologies (md raid, LVM, btrfs), is the 
system-storage-manager package. Its syntax is more btrfs like, rather than the 
multi-step and rather esoteric commands needed for LVM. For example:

http://www.fpaste.org/98515/


There's a pile of really useful info here. It recognizes LVM and btrfs 
snapshots, LVM raid (in contrast to LVM on md raid), thin pools and volumes, 
btrfs subvolumes, and so on.


Chris Murphy

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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 06:24, Edward M wrote:
> On 5/1/2014 12:51 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>> How can I manage the iptable manually?
>> There is no
>>   /etc/sysconfig/iptables
>>
>> Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc
>
>
>   Hello,
>   Probably be of some help:
>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_edit_iptables_rules

You do know that this advice would only be valid if the OP is running 
iptables.service and not the default firewalld.service.

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Re: Trouble starting webex in F20

[Chris Kottaridis]

On 05/01/2014 05:08 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/01/2014 01:40 PM, Andrew Azores issued this missive:

On 05/01/2014 04:27 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:


On 05/01/2014 02:11 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote:

* Chris Kottaridis  [2014-05-01 13:25]:

I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the
F20 host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.

The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a
message about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to
run the applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the
icedtea icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I
don't see the icedtea icon pop up in F20.

I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and
there is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow
all applets to do everything for the time being in the
.config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web
man page says is the default policy file.

Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would
be appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.

Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far
other then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that
I have tried so far.


Hi Chris,

Is it possible for us to reproduce this? If so, what are the steps?

You'd need a webex account.


Hmm, there's no way to reproduce it with the test meeting [0] ?



After some more playing it seems the issue is when I try to share my
desktop it doesn't get shared in F20, but does in F19.


So the Webex applet is successfully starting with both, then?



That is what's so weird is it works like a champ in F19. I assume
there is just something missing, maybe something I need to install or
some permission or configuration setting. I haven't found anything in
any log files yet to help point to what the problem might be.

When I connect to webex to start a session if I click on Activities I
see a webex icon of a ball that is half green and half blue and the
name is "sun-applet-PluginMain" on the activites list. After I click
on share desktop I see a second icon like that which says Atasjni on
the F19, but still only have the one on F20. So, it seems some app is
having trouble getting started when I click to share desktop. So, far
I haven't found any complaint in any log file though.

Thanks
Chris Kottaridis


Do you have any log files at all to share? You can also try launching
your browser from terminal (assuming this is starting through a browser
at all), and capture the output with a redirect or tee there.

Also, just a note that IcedTea-Web 1.5 is available for Fedora 19 as
well. Although if you appear to be having problems after the 1.5 update,
I wouldn't recommend you update to it yet - not until we figure out
what's going on here! With 1.5 on both Fedora 19 (native) and 20 (VM),
Webex works fine, but I haven't tried this 'share desktop' 
functionality.


[0] http://www.webex.com/test-meeting.html


Also check to see if there's perhaps a SELinux alert going along with
this. There may be changes to selinux configs that block sharing the
desktop.


I don't know a lot about selinux, but I used the SELinux management tool 
to just disable SELinux.




So, I assume SELinux is out of the picture for now.

But, I think it is probably some local configuration issue like that.

Thanks
Chris Kottaridis

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Re: iptable

[Edward M]

On 5/1/2014 12:51 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

How can I manage the iptable manually?
There is no
  /etc/sysconfig/iptables

Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc



  Hello,
  Probably be of some help:
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_edit_iptables_rules
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Re: iptable

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 03:51, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My firewall-config does not work properly (I am ready posted about).
> How can I manage the iptable manually?
> There is no
>  /etc/sysconfig/iptables
>
> Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc
>

Are you running into the same problem a user had back in February?  The subject 
line at that time, if I remember correctly, was along the lines of "vncviewer". 

FWIW, vnc works fine here upon opening the necessary ports via firewall-config.

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Re: Trouble starting webex in F20

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/01/2014 01:40 PM, Andrew Azores issued this missive:

On 05/01/2014 04:27 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:


On 05/01/2014 02:11 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote:

* Chris Kottaridis  [2014-05-01 13:25]:

I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the
F20 host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.

The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a
message about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to
run the applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the
icedtea icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I
don't see the icedtea icon pop up in F20.

I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and
there is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow
all applets to do everything for the time being in the
.config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web
man page says is the default policy file.

Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would
be appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.

Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far
other then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that
I have tried so far.


Hi Chris,

Is it possible for us to reproduce this? If so, what are the steps?

You'd need a webex account.


Hmm, there's no way to reproduce it with the test meeting [0] ?



After some more playing it seems the issue is when I try to share my
desktop it doesn't get shared in F20, but does in F19.


So the Webex applet is successfully starting with both, then?



That is what's so weird is it works like a champ in F19. I assume
there is just something missing, maybe something I need to install or
some permission or configuration setting. I haven't found anything in
any log files yet to help point to what the problem might be.

When I connect to webex to start a session if I click on Activities I
see a webex icon of a ball that is half green and half blue and the
name is "sun-applet-PluginMain" on the activites list. After I click
on share desktop I see a second icon like that which says Atasjni on
the F19, but still only have the one on F20. So, it seems some app is
having trouble getting started when I click to share desktop. So, far
I haven't found any complaint in any log file though.

Thanks
Chris Kottaridis


Do you have any log files at all to share? You can also try launching
your browser from terminal (assuming this is starting through a browser
at all), and capture the output with a redirect or tee there.

Also, just a note that IcedTea-Web 1.5 is available for Fedora 19 as
well. Although if you appear to be having problems after the 1.5 update,
I wouldn't recommend you update to it yet - not until we figure out
what's going on here! With 1.5 on both Fedora 19 (native) and 20 (VM),
Webex works fine, but I haven't tried this 'share desktop' functionality.

[0] http://www.webex.com/test-meeting.html


Also check to see if there's perhaps a SELinux alert going along with
this. There may be changes to selinux configs that block sharing the
desktop.
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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz  said:
> Kind of thought so.  So is there an equiv command that follows
> system priorities for both dns and hosts file?

getent hosts www.google.com

That will follow the IPv6-before-IPv4 rules (so by default, if the host
has an IPv6 entry, only that will be shown).

To see all the matches, IPv6 and IPv4, you can use "ahosts" instead
(which also has "ahostsv4" and "ahostsv6" to get only a specific address
family).  That will return all socket types (so usually STREAM, DGRAM,
and RAW).  This is done via a calls to getaddrinfo() and so should match
the behavior of modern (akak IPv6-ready) programs.

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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/01/2014 04:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/02/14 04:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

F20

I put an IPv4 entry for a server in my /etc/hosts file.  I can 'ping bob', but 
'host bob' comes back with:

Host bob not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I have this vague memory from years back about a file that set precedence of 
hosts file and dns for fqdn lookup.  Can't remember it of find it.

Of course the problem might simply be the host command is incapable of 
processing the /etc/hosts file?

thanks for any help on this.



The host command does only DNS lookups.


Well that is a straightforward answer.

Kind of thought so.  So is there an equiv command that follows system 
priorities for both dns and hosts file?



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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Alchemist]

2014-05-01 23:52 GMT+03:00 Robert Moskowitz :

> F20
>
> I put an IPv4 entry for a server in my /etc/hosts file.  I can 'ping bob',
> but 'host bob' comes back with:
>
> Host bob not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> I have this vague memory from years back about a file that set precedence
> of hosts file and dns for fqdn lookup.  Can't remember it of find it.
>
> Of course the problem might simply be the host command is incapable of
> processing the /etc/hosts file?
>
> thanks for any help on this.
>
>
Check your /etc/host.conf for line
order hosts,bind
and /etc/nsswitch.conf for correct order
hosts: files dns
 However results may differ

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Re: host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/02/14 04:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> F20
>
> I put an IPv4 entry for a server in my /etc/hosts file.  I can 'ping bob', 
> but 'host bob' comes back with:
>
> Host bob not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> I have this vague memory from years back about a file that set precedence of 
> hosts file and dns for fqdn lookup.  Can't remember it of find it.
>
> Of course the problem might simply be the host command is incapable of 
> processing the /etc/hosts file?
>
> thanks for any help on this.
>
>

The host command does only DNS lookups.

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Re: Gnome weather extension as malware?

[Suvayu Ali]

Hi,

Disclaimer: I do not use this extension, but I do use the XFCE counterpart.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:29:24AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> This extension gets its weather information from the Norway weather service,
> and you can't change this.

This is standard practise among many FOSS weather monitoring tools.  A
year or so back most popular weather feeds either stopped, went
proprietary, or kept changing their feed structure too often.  At this
point many FOSS weather tools moved to the service provided by Norwegian
Weather Institute.  It is never going to go proprietary, and will most
likely stay alive for the foreseeable future.  It is also rather
reliable.

I hope that explains why it cannot be changed, no options out there.

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host command not seeming to use /etc/hosts file

[Robert Moskowitz]

F20

I put an IPv4 entry for a server in my /etc/hosts file.  I can 'ping 
bob', but 'host bob' comes back with:


Host bob not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I have this vague memory from years back about a file that set 
precedence of hosts file and dns for fqdn lookup.  Can't remember it of 
find it.


Of course the problem might simply be the host command is incapable of 
processing the /etc/hosts file?


thanks for any help on this.


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Re: Trouble starting webex in F20

[Andrew Azores]

On 05/01/2014 04:27 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:


On 05/01/2014 02:11 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote:

* Chris Kottaridis  [2014-05-01 13:25]:

I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the
F20 host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.

The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a
message about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to
run the applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the
icedtea icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I
don't see the icedtea icon pop up in F20.

I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and
there is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow
all applets to do everything for the time being in the
.config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web
man page says is the default policy file.

Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would
be appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.

Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far
other then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that
I have tried so far.


Hi Chris,

Is it possible for us to reproduce this? If so, what are the steps?

You'd need a webex account.


Hmm, there's no way to reproduce it with the test meeting [0] ?



After some more playing it seems the issue is when I try to share my 
desktop it doesn't get shared in F20, but does in F19.


So the Webex applet is successfully starting with both, then?



That is what's so weird is it works like a champ in F19. I assume 
there is just something missing, maybe something I need to install or 
some permission or configuration setting. I haven't found anything in 
any log files yet to help point to what the problem might be.


When I connect to webex to start a session if I click on Activities I 
see a webex icon of a ball that is half green and half blue and the 
name is "sun-applet-PluginMain" on the activites list. After I click 
on share desktop I see a second icon like that which says Atasjni on 
the F19, but still only have the one on F20. So, it seems some app is 
having trouble getting started when I click to share desktop. So, far 
I haven't found any complaint in any log file though.


Thanks
Chris Kottaridis


Do you have any log files at all to share? You can also try launching 
your browser from terminal (assuming this is starting through a browser 
at all), and capture the output with a redirect or tee there.


Also, just a note that IcedTea-Web 1.5 is available for Fedora 19 as 
well. Although if you appear to be having problems after the 1.5 update, 
I wouldn't recommend you update to it yet - not until we figure out 
what's going on here! With 1.5 on both Fedora 19 (native) and 20 (VM), 
Webex works fine, but I haven't tried this 'share desktop' functionality.


[0] http://www.webex.com/test-meeting.html

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Re: Trouble starting webex in F20

[Chris Kottaridis]

On 05/01/2014 02:11 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote:

* Chris Kottaridis  [2014-05-01 13:25]:

I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the
F20 host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.

The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a
message about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to
run the applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the
icedtea icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I
don't see the icedtea icon pop up in F20.

I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and
there is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow
all applets to do everything for the time being in the
.config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web
man page says is the default policy file.

Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would
be appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.

Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far
other then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that
I have tried so far.


Hi Chris,

Is it possible for us to reproduce this? If so, what are the steps?

You'd need a webex account.

After some more playing it seems the issue is when I try to share my 
desktop it doesn't get shared in F20, but does in F19.


That is what's so weird is it works like a champ in F19. I assume there 
is just something missing, maybe something I need to install or some 
permission or configuration setting. I haven't found anything in any log 
files yet to help point to what the problem might be.


When I connect to webex to start a session if I click on Activities I 
see a webex icon of a ball that is half green and half blue and the name 
is "sun-applet-PluginMain" on the activites list. After I click on share 
desktop I see a second icon like that which says Atasjni on the F19, but 
still only have the one on F20. So, it seems some app is having trouble 
getting started when I click to share desktop. So, far I haven't found 
any complaint in any log file though.


Thanks
Chris Kottaridis




Thanks,
Deepak


Thanks
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iptable

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

My firewall-config does not work properly (I am ready posted about).
How can I manage the iptable manually?
There is no
 /etc/sysconfig/iptables

Right now I need to turn on the port 5900 open for vnc

Thank.

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Re: sshd containers?

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:24:05PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> We have some ancient systems we use to build backward compatible
> software. I was thinking about copying the root/usr stuff to
> a faster more modern system and using a chrooted sshd to get
> to each build system (now just a separate root on a single
> build system).
> 
> But now I see random information floating around about
> linux containers and lightweight virtualization. Anyone
> who understands this stuff know if it might be more appropriate
> than a "simple" chroot for what I want to do?

Is this stuff which might build with Mock? Mock is a system that's basically
made for exactly this kind of cross-distro-version compiling, and there is
work on migrating it to use containers natively.




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sshd containers?

[Tom Horsley]

We have some ancient systems we use to build backward compatible
software. I was thinking about copying the root/usr stuff to
a faster more modern system and using a chrooted sshd to get
to each build system (now just a separate root on a single
build system).

But now I see random information floating around about
linux containers and lightweight virtualization. Anyone
who understands this stuff know if it might be more appropriate
than a "simple" chroot for what I want to do?
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Re: Trouble starting webex in F20

[Deepak Bhole]

* Chris Kottaridis  [2014-05-01 13:25]:
> I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the
> F20 host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.
> 
> The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a
> message about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to
> run the applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the
> icedtea icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I
> don't see the icedtea icon pop up in F20.
> 
> I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and
> there is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow
> all applets to do everything for the time being in the
> .config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web
> man page says is the default policy file.
> 
> Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would
> be appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.
> 
> Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far
> other then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that
> I have tried so far.
> 

Hi Chris,

Is it possible for us to reproduce this? If so, what are the steps?

Thanks,
Deepak

> Thanks
> Chris Kottaridis
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Trouble starting webex in F20

[Chris Kottaridis]

I have an F19 and an F20 host and when I try to start a webex on the F20 
host it doesn't work right. It works fine on the F19 machine.


The symptom is that when I start the webex in F20 it sends up a message 
about wanting to run an applet and I tell it yes it's OK to run the 
applet. That doesn't come up on the F19 host. On the F19 the icedtea 
icon pops up for a short time and then I get connected. I don't see the 
icedtea icon pop up in F20.


I did notice that icedtea is at 1.5 in F20, but at 1.4 for F19 and there 
is some policy control added in 1.5. I set the policy to allow all 
applets to do everything for the time being in the 
.config/icedtea-web/security/java.policy file which the icedtea-web man 
page says is the default policy file.


Any ideas on what the difference might be between F19 and F20 would be 
appreciated or pointer to a different group that could help.


Sorry that I only have rather high level usage info, but so far other 
then this issue with starting a webex everything seems OK that I have 
tried so far.


Thanks
Chris Kottaridis
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Re: KDE using sudo instead of su

[Emmett Culley]

On 04/30/2014 10:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/30/2014 08:25 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:
>> Any ideas how to get apps to require the root password instead of my user 
>> password?
> 
> Take yourself out of wheel.
I was in the users group, but not in the wheel group.

Also, I have all sudoers disabled except for root.

Still, I get prompted for my users password.  Something to do with polkit?

Emmett
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Re: system-config-lvm

[Patrick Laimbock]

On 01-05-14 13:26, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
[snip]

was unwilling to risk building the tool.  I have a USB key that boots
Linux Mint.  Every time I need to adjust my LVM, I have to reboot to
Mint, make the change and reboot again.  That is sad.


So what is the LVM tool in Linux Mint? Perhaps that tool could be 
packaged for Fedora.


Cheers,
Patrick
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system-config-services

[Patrick Dupre]

hello,

WIth fedora I cannot use properly system-config-services.
I get:

 ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on 
:1.80:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/XinetdServiceHerder: 
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not 
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a 
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout 
expired, or the network connection was broken.


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Re: system-config-lvm

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 04:26:23AM -0700, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
> I love Fedora, but after asking about the disappearance myself, the
> answer given was less than logical or satisfactory.  

"No one wanted to maintain it", I think. If someone wanted to, I'm sure we
could bring it back to life.

If someone wants to just pull the old one along into newer release and not
worry about real maintenance or feature updates, that might be a good use
for Coprs (and possibly even the Fedora Playground).


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Re: system-config-lvm

[Frederick N. Brier]

I love Fedora, but after asking about the disappearance myself, the 
answer given was less than logical or satisfactory.  LVM has gained some 
new features that system-config-lvm did not handle.  Someone decided 
that was unacceptable and it had to be removed.  The majority of 
applications and system tools do not support every (new) feature. 
Development does not occur lockstep.  It would have been trivial to add 
something to a readme file or a conditional that warned 
system-config-lvm could not be used with your current LVM because you 
used a new feature.  As with Gilboa and yourself, I am still using the 
basic features of LVM and very happy with it.  To eliminate the primary 
maintenance system tool of a feature, is to cut off your user's noses to 
spite your system.  I've been doing development for 40+ years.  This 
smells like a pissing contest. Perhaps I am not as brave as Gilboa, I 
was unwilling to risk building the tool.  I have a USB key that boots 
Linux Mint.  Every time I need to adjust my LVM, I have to reboot to 
Mint, make the change and reboot again.  That is sad.


- Fred

On 04/30/2014 10:31 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:

Hello

The package system-config-lvm
disappeared since fedora 18.
Is there a reason?
I new packag replace it?

Thank


system-config-lvm (S-C-L) was deprecated back in F18 and is supposed
to be replaced by gnome-disks (or gnome-disk-utility).
However, gnome-disks (F20) completely lacks LVM support.

Personally I simply rebuilt the F18 S-C-L SRPMS and I use it on a
large number of desktops/servers/etc.
Keep in mind that YMMV; S-C-L is no longer supported and if it breaks,
you get to keep all the pieces.

- Gilboa


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