Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Bob Marcan]

On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:19:18 -0400
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"  wrote:
>  From my notes:
> 
> 2014-05-10
> 
> Firefox 29 requires the following add-on if it is to be made usable.
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/
> 
> then see:
> 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-to-make-new-firefox-look-like-old-firefox
> 
> Bob
> 

Tnx. Very flexible, almost perfect.

Still have problem with tabs.
IMHO tabs are for full screen browsing, not my style of work.
Middle button still open window in tabs instead of new window.
Right click, select open new window is annoying.
Anybody know the solution?

TIA, Bob
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Re: Serviio Media Server: Songs play for only about one minute

[Steven Ulrick]

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Steven Ulrick  wrote:
> Hello, Everyone
> I realize that this almost certainly an issue with Serviio.  But I
> thought that maybe some of you have had similar issues using DLNA
> servers on Fedora 20, so here goes...
>
> I have just done a completely fresh install of Serviio 1.4.1.2 on
> Fedora Linux 20. I am having an issue where MP3's that I have recently
> ripped/encoded only show a length of about one minute, and sure
> enough, that is as long as it plays! For example, let's say the length
> of a song is 8 minutes. When I play the song using Serviio 1.4.1.2,
> the length of the song is shown as 1 minute. So, I play the song, and
> exactly one minute into the song, it stops and goes to the next song.

OK, this is wierd...  The reason that I did a fresh install is because
I was having this same issue when I attempted to upgrade.  With
upgrading, of course, Serviio does not need to rescan your entire
collection.  So, I had the same issue with the old install, as well as
this fresh one.  So, I just checked a few of the "offending" songs
and, for example, Simon & Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water is
now 4:35 instead of only about one minute!  So, why this corrected
itself AFTER Serviio finished re-scanning my collection, I have no
idea.   But all seems well right now.  Sorry for the noise.
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Serviio Media Server: Songs play for only about one minute

[Steven Ulrick]

Hello, Everyone
I realize that this almost certainly an issue with Serviio.  But I
thought that maybe some of you have had similar issues using DLNA
servers on Fedora 20, so here goes...

I have just done a completely fresh install of Serviio 1.4.1.2 on
Fedora Linux 20. I am having an issue where MP3's that I have recently
ripped/encoded only show a length of about one minute, and sure
enough, that is as long as it plays! For example, let's say the length
of a song is 8 minutes. When I play the song using Serviio 1.4.1.2,
the length of the song is shown as 1 minute. So, I play the song, and
exactly one minute into the song, it stops and goes to the next song.

I have tried playing MP3's that I encoded a long time ago, and they
seem to show the correct length, and the entire song plays.

Some details about the old MP3's. the one's that work correctly:
They were encoded using various versions of the LAME encoder, at
128kbs and a 44.1 kHz sampling rate. Some of them were ripped from
physical, store bought CD's, the others I reencoded from MP3's I
purchased from AmazonMP3, eMusic.com or Google Play.

Details about the MP3's that are NOT working correctly:
I re-ripped them within the past few days. ALL of these MP3's are
encoded from WAV files that I got from ripping physical, store bought
CD's. I am using this version of LAME:
LAME 64bits version 3.100 (alpha 2, May 12 2014 14:40:38)

I am encoding at a 320kbs bitrate, with a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz.

Here is a log file entry showing one of the offending files:

2014-05-17 21:39:32,415 INFO [LibraryUpdatesCheckerThread] Updated
'The Day The World Turned Day-Glo' (/home/Serviio/Music/Punk & New
Wave/x/X-Ray Spex/Let's Submerge: The Anthology/Let's Submerge: The
Anthology (Disc 1)/03 - The Day The World Turned Day-Glo - X-Ray
Spex.mp3) in Library



Also, I run Serviio from a PC that I use only for that purpose. I
rsync the MP3's from my main PC. Also, if I do "ls -lh *.mp3" in a
directory on my media server that contains some of the files that
Serviio appears to be truncating, they are the exact same size as the
original file that was rsync'd from my main PC.

Almost forgot:
The drive that I am ripping with is as follows:
ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner Drive with Disc Encryption

That would be one difference between my old MP3's and the new ones...

So, I am at a loss. If you have any ideas, I'm all ears.

Steven P. Ulrick
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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 05/17/14 21:07, Bob Marcan wrote:

The latest Firefox (v.29) is for me indigestible (putting it mildly).
So this looks promising.
Does anybody knows how to disable tabbed browsing?
Changed preferenced the same way as in firefox.
Middle button still open window in tabs instead of new window.

TIA, Bob

From my notes:

2014-05-10

Firefox 29 requires the following add-on if it is to be made usable.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/

then see:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-to-make-new-firefox-look-like-old-firefox

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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Bob Marcan]

The latest Firefox (v.29) is for me indigestible (putting it mildly).
So this looks promising.
Does anybody knows how to disable tabbed browsing?
Changed preferenced the same way as in firefox.
Middle button still open window in tabs instead of new window.

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Re: Thunderbird--find messages

[g]

On 05/17/14 11:39, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

Am 17.05.2014 10:31, schrieb g:

<<>>


If you want to sort your emails by date received, you can set this in
the View | Sort by | Order Received-


this is true. i did not show such separately when showing using
threaded and untheaded.


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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[David]

On 5/17/2014 4:37 PM, David wrote:
> On 5/17/2014 4:00 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Paul Cartwright > > wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely! Pale Moon is built from the Firefox release source code
>> that has a large community of developers and security-aware people,
>> next to having seen over a decade of development by now. It
>> includes, among other things, protection against dangerous add-ons,
>> scam sites, automatic checking for updates of add-ons,
>> anti-phishing, anti-malware, password protection (master password),
>> website-identity information in the address bar, and private browsing.
>>
>>
>> Everything quoted above are Firefox features. Being a fork, it's obvious
>> that PMoon has them too.
>> However I'd like to see how fast does Palemoon get build when a 0day
>> vulnerability arises, vs the Firefox bugfix release for the same bug.
>> That is the measure...
>>
>> FC
> 
> 
> And a dran good question.
> 
> 


Duh. Multi-tasking.   dran - should be  -  darn



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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[David]

On 5/17/2014 4:00 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Paul Cartwright  > wrote:
> 
> Absolutely! Pale Moon is built from the Firefox release source code
> that has a large community of developers and security-aware people,
> next to having seen over a decade of development by now. It
> includes, among other things, protection against dangerous add-ons,
> scam sites, automatic checking for updates of add-ons,
> anti-phishing, anti-malware, password protection (master password),
> website-identity information in the address bar, and private browsing.
> 
> 
> Everything quoted above are Firefox features. Being a fork, it's obvious
> that PMoon has them too.
> However I'd like to see how fast does Palemoon get build when a 0day
> vulnerability arises, vs the Firefox bugfix release for the same bug.
> That is the measure...
> 
> FC


And a dran good question.


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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> Absolutely! Pale Moon is built from the Firefox release source code that
> has a large community of developers and security-aware people, next to
> having seen over a decade of development by now. It includes, among other
> things, protection against dangerous add-ons, scam sites, automatic
> checking for updates of add-ons, anti-phishing, anti-malware, password
> protection (master password), website-identity information in the address
> bar, and private browsing.


Everything quoted above are Firefox features. Being a fork, it's obvious
that PMoon has them too.
However I'd like to see how fast does Palemoon get build when a 0day
vulnerability arises, vs the Firefox bugfix release for the same bug. That
is the measure...

FC

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Re: Thunderbird--find messages

[Doug]

On 05/17/2014 01:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/17/14 12:52, Doug wrote:

I get a large number of messages every day, in addition to those I filter out 
and don't see.  Unfortunately, some of these
messages seem to come in out of time sync, for one reason or another.  I don't 
send everything on the incoming list to
trash as soon as I read it. Some of the letters I keep for later reference. 
Some are tagged, some not.
The resulting message list may have two or three, or tonight, 20, unread 
messages mixed in with the read and temporarily
saved messages, so that the Inbox reads "Inbox (20)" even tho you are at the 
bottom of the list. Now you have to go and find
these 20 emails, which are scattered among perhaps 100 or more messages in the 
list which have been read already.
It would be nice if there were a button somewhere that would go to the 
highlighted messages, one at a time, starting at the
top and working its way down, until they have all been opened and/or deleted.

So, you have an inbox with a large number of messages.  Scattered throughout 
the inbox are unread messages and you want to know how to easily access them.  
Yes?  If I've defined the question correctly

If you have the "Menu Bar" enabled (Clicking on the T-Bird emblem is similar)  you will notice you can click on 
"Go--->Next--->Unread Message"  or "Go--->Previous---Unread Message" to get to where you want.  You can also 
use the shortcut keys "N" and "P" instead.

Also, on the "Mail Toolbar" there is a "View" drop down menu which allows you to display 
messages based on various criteria.  One choice is "Unread".  You can even make custom views.

FWIW, you may have to left click at the top of T-Bird to get a menu to select the "Menu" 
and "Mail" tool bars to be visible,

Thank you, Ed. I've only been using T-Bird for about 15 years, and I 
never knew about that! Solves the problem perfectly!

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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Paul Cartwright]

  
  
On 05/17/2014 11:42 AM, Fernando Cassia
  wrote:


  What's the track record of this fork for security fixes?
  Do they patch in hours, days or weeks after a 0day is discovered
  for FF?

from the Pale moon site:
http://www.palemoon.org/faq.shtml#Is_Pale_Moon_safe_to_use
Is Pale Moon safe to
  use?
Absolutely!
Pale Moon is built from the Firefox release source code that has a
large community of developers and security-aware people, next to
having
seen over a decade of development by now. It includes, among other
things, protection against dangerous add-ons, scam sites, automatic
checking for updates of add-ons, anti-phishing, anti-malware,
password
protection (master password), website-identity information in the
address bar, and private browsing.
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Re: Thunderbird--find messages

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 17 May 2014, Doug sent:
> I get a large number of messages every day, in addition to those I 
> filter out and don't see.  Unfortunately, some of these messages seem
> to come in out of time sync, for one reason or another. 

If you want to see messages listed in a logical and coherent order, then
use "threading," to sort messages.  This sorts messages in the order
that contributors have responded to them.

If your client can't manage threading, or the senders have stuffed up
the headers that threading uses, then you can sort by subject then
posting date (the time that they wrote them, which takes different
timezones into account, at as well).

If you sort by received order, you will get them randomly arranged,
because messages are not guaranteed to be received as they're posted,
various uncorrelated delays are involved.

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trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
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Re: Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> I am beginning to like Pale moon.. pulled in all my Chrome bookmarks (
> awesome, automatic!), and it is VERY snappy!
>

What's the track record of this fork for security fixes?
Do they patch in hours, days or weeks after a 0day is discovered for FF?

FC
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Dual Boot Windows 8.1 Professional Fedora 20

[Ger van Dijck]

There seem to be lots of problems with dual boot : I solved the problem as  
follows.


On a Dell inspiron laptop I did change the bootmode.

UEFI with Legacy Oprom
Secure boot Off
Bootlist option UEFI

Then I first installed Windows 8.1 Professional , then Fedora 20 .

Grub functionates perfect and probes on Fedora and displays bootloader  
Windows on /dev/sda1 and boots the desired

OS.

So whre is the problem?

Greetings ,

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Re: Thunderbird--find messages

[Klaus-Peter Schrage]

Am 17.05.2014 10:31, schrieb g:



On 05/17/14 04:52, Doug wrote:

I didn't know what list to send this to, but since there has been

> some discussion about Mozilla products here, I'll try this one.


I get a large number of messages every day, in addition to those I
filter out and don't see.  Unfortunately, some of these messages

> seem to come in out of time sync, for one reason or another.
> I don't send everything on the incoming list to trash as soon as I
> read it. Some of the letters I keep for later reference. Some are
> tagged, some not.

emails are shown by time they arrive to you. when they are out of
time order, it is because of delays reaching your email provider.


Thunderbird's "date" colummn in fact seems to show the date the messages 
are sent. Your actual message, eg, is indicated in my date field as 
"10:31" (my local time), whereas the received field shows "10:32", which 
correspondends to the respective entries in the message header.
If you want to sort your emails by date received, you can set this in 
the View | Sort by | Order Received-


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Re: SNA Acceleration for Intel Graphics

[Heinz Diehl]

On 17.05.2014, Heinz Diehl wrote: 

> Section "Device"
>Identifier "Card0"
>Driver "intel"
>Option "AccelMethod" "SNA"
> EndSection

[htd@kiera ~]$ grep -ie uxa -ie sna /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[ 4.564] (**) intel(0): Option "AccelMethod" "SNA"
[ 4.565] (II) intel(0): SNA initialized with Ironlake (gen5) backend

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Re: SNA Acceleration for Intel Graphics

[Heinz Diehl]

On 16.05.2014, Justin Brown wrote: 

> Has anyone else been able to enable SNA in Fedora 20 and were any
> special steps needed?

Yes, has been working for me quite some time.

20-intel.conf:

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Card0"
   Driver "intel"
   Option "AccelMethod" "SNA"
EndSection

Are you sure that your Device-ID is correct?

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Pale moon, was Re: replacement for seamonkey?

[Paul Cartwright]

On 05/16/2014 11:50 AM, Doug wrote:
> If Seamonkey is the thing you call Firefox (pffft!) then go get Pale
> Moon.
> --doug 
I am beginning to like Pale moon.. pulled in all my Chrome bookmarks (
awesome, automatic!), and it is VERY snappy!
I haven't figured out yet how to view flash videos.. I don't see a flash
add-on and I do have the adobe...rpm installed. running Pale moon on
fedora 20 amd_64.

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Re: Thunderbird--find messages

[g]

On 05/17/14 04:52, Doug wrote:

I didn't know what list to send this to, but since there has been

> some discussion about Mozilla products here, I'll try this one.


I get a large number of messages every day, in addition to those I
filter out and don't see.  Unfortunately, some of these messages

> seem to come in out of time sync, for one reason or another.
> I don't send everything on the incoming list to trash as soon as I
> read it. Some of the letters I keep for later reference. Some are
> tagged, some not.

emails are shown by time they arrive to you. when they are out of
time order, it is because of delays reaching your email provider.


The resulting message list may have two or three, or tonight, 20,

> unread messages mixed in with the read and temporarily saved
> messages, so that the Inbox reads "Inbox (20)" even tho you are at

the bottom of the list. Now you have to go and find these 20 emails,

> which are scattered among perhaps 100 or more messages in the list
> which have been read already.

this is not a fault of thunderbird and something one has to contend
with.


It would be nice if there were a button somewhere that would go to

> the highlighted messages, one at a time, starting at the top and
> working its way down, until they have all been opened and/or

deleted.


as Ed Greshko replied, you have a sort option in the "View" selection.

if you are reading emails with "Unthreaded", last of selects under
"View > Sort by", select "Date" and they will be by time sent stamp.

if you use "Threaded", use "View > Sort by > Order received" so
they will sort by time stamp.

ie;

  View > Sort by > Date + Unthreaded

  View > Sort by > Order received + Threaded

may not seem logical, but this is how i find it to work in
thunderbird up to 24.5.0.

hth.

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Thunderbird slows down if a lot of recipients (about 86) are located in the to-header entry of a received email

[Joachim Backes]

Hi all,

I'm running thunderbird-24.5.0-2.fc20.x86_64 and seeing the following
effect: sometimes I'm receiving emails with a lot of recepients (about
86) in the TO-header-entry of this email. If I set *view->headers->all*,
thunderbird needs a  lot of time (about 3-4 secs) to open and display 
such an email.


Same effect if running with disabled extensions (-safe-mode).

I get rid of this effect if switching back to *view->headers->normal*. 
Then such en email is opened immediately.


Anybody sees this too?

Kind regards

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Joachim Backes 
https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/index.html
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